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Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

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Episode 49 - ver. 10.0
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>>15376099
First for mika
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Iok best boy
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Mika destroys Lok headon.
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Reminder that barbie dies next ep

F
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Kudelia and Atra!
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>>15376131
Translate it, weebs.
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>>15376128
good
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>>15376131
MIKAZUKI BABY!
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Will he live?
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>>15376164
Not a chance. He literally won't stop.
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>>15376164
>being a crippled sack of potatoes
even if he doesn't die in combat, is that actually living?
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>>15376164
The only way I can see him dying is if he's protecting Ride or something, there's no way anybody can actually beat him in combat
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>>15376181
Gaelio in Kimaris Vidar could easily beat him.
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>>15376185
Kimaris is kill
spotted the gaeliofag
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>>15376164
hows Iok going to kill Mika?
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>>15376196
Dainsleifs
And a lot of people being cannon fodder
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>>15376196
>>15376216
Iok gets new new Graze that replaces the railgun with a dainlsleif.
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>>15376181
Mika defeats Julieta and the especial units… Then Rustal nukes him from orbit THE END!
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Who got me?
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>>15376234

Nothing on nyaa yet but admittedly I'm not so great at finding new OSTs when they first release. Still, eyes peeled.
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>>15376234
So much for the Iron flower that will never wither…

https://youtu.be/R6dPtI93_To?t=12m9s

The rats are dead!
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>>15376248
dignity of lords is an awesome OST
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>>15376248

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZrH76B0mo

>Preview theme has been since August
Fuck me, I just found out and thought I had to wait for the OST to be released to listen to it.
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>>15376281
*has been out
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I'am both excited and scared of IBO's final episode because there are some things that could happen that would completely mindfuck me and leave a sour taste in my mouth like for example:

>Hush not surviving
>Gaelio somehow dying
>lok surving
>Mika surviving and procreating with Kudelia

Don't get me wrong, i love Mikazuki as much as the nips do and i wouldn't mind if he survives but Mikazuki and Atra are THE OTP, Kudelia shouldn't get involved in any way except for being the godmother of the baby.
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>>15376291
Preview had Kudelia narrating and taling to someone in a sweet way. Its basically confirmed theres only one baby and that its Mika's and Atra's
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>>15376291
>i love Mikazuki as much as the nips do

Why? He's easily the worst main character in any gundam series
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>>15376291
>mad best boy lives
shit taste son
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>>15376299
I usually hate mary sues MC who are edgy fucks and don't talk or show emotions, but Mika is more than that. He is fun and not edgy at all. best MC with autism since the creation of Anime
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>>15376248
> The Life in My Hands
What did they mean with this?
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>>15376291
>hush not surviving
But he is already dead anon
>Gaelio dying
literally no reasons for this
>Iok surving
He cant die
>Mika surviving

Mika will die, 100% sure. He is crippled and only has 1 arm left, he is a patato sack and there is no reasons for him live besides following Orga's whishes.

The only thing im scared about the last ep is that they choose to do something stupid like killing Gaelio or Rustal at this point.
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>>15376340
>The only thing im scared about the last ep is that they choose to do something stupid like killing Gaelio or Rustal at this point.
I would be totally fine with Rustal dying preferible by the hands of Gaelio. But killing the man who saved you is a dick move so doubt it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaPFU_Rx-Ls
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>>15376291
>>15376308
I can't tell if this is bait or not, but characters like Mikazuki do hilariously well with shonen audiences. Thematically, he's a mix of Guts and Sasuke, both of whom are characters that Japanese audiences eat up with reckless abandon.
I don't actually mind Mika all that much

Predictions:
>Nearly all of Tekkadan dies
>Mika bricks himself and is tied to Barbatos for the rest of his life
>Julietta gets the Ein treatment
>Iok is the token villain to die
>Rustal survives
>Gaelio survives and gets sidelined like Amuro in Zeta
>Orbital dainsleif bombardment

I would really love for S3 to be a fledgling Revolutionary movement championed by a guilt-ridden Gaelio, but ti's arguably just going to be full-on dainsleif NTR
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Rustal and Gaelio are in the fucking space. They can't die because they're not on the battlefield.
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>>15376364
>I would really love for S3
I don't really see much content for a season 3. Mika's son talking revenge would be cool and all but in the end it would be more of the same. An OVA or Movie tho, that i would love to see
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>>15376355
Is this s3? Looks like they're finally putting some effort into the animation.
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>>15376355
Spoiler for the last episode? Kimaris Vidar may be dead but Vidar its probably ok. Gaelio wll die but better than nothing
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>>15376355
Even in a fictional game Vidar is the best.
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>>15376364
I really don't see Iok dying. his reginlaze is dead, his graze is dead. he was injured in the bael fight. doubt he'd go right back out there.
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>>15376399
No, the timpet/inner frame was destroyed. There's no way that they can fix that in less than one day.
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>>15376376
>Mika's son
My hope is that it'd take a page from Zeta and have the kids go do something boring while the adults engage in the actually interesting plot.
I really just want a war-weary, guilt-wracked Gaelio who wants to reform Gjallarhorn but that's never going to happen.

>>15376399
>>15376406
Vidar has been the single best thing about this season
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>>15376245
keep us updated
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>>15376399

How is this a spoiler?
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>>15376355
>we never saw Vidars Burst Sabers explode
>Kimaris still hasn't used its Multi-slot Accelerators outside of Gundam vs. Gundam
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>>15376440
>Yfw Macross Delta Original Sountrack 2 never
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>>15376488
>Macross Delta Original Sountrack 2
It's been out for ages?
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>>15376495
Yeah, I'm dumber than McGillis.
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>>15376350
>killing the man who saved you
That's just your headcanon, fellow Galifag. For all we know Gaelio was saved by random soldiers and went to Rustal on his own. The only thing he owns Rustal for is hiring him in his fleet. And he hired fucking Iok, so if anything Gaelio's contribution is immeasurable (at worse he's second most powerful element in the fleet + the political justification for the war against Choco) so Rustal owns Gaelio more.
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>>15376476
How would McGillis have done if he had piloted Vidar instead of Bael? Gaelio and Iok would have been done for if McGillis had been able to make his swords explode deep inside their cockpits.
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>>15376131
We are charging in, hold on!
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>>15376476
What does its slot do in Gundam VS? Is it just a high output beam like Gipsy Danger's reactor blast?
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>>15376355
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGim_v2GwqU
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>>15376291
>inb4 mika gets killed just like he killed CRANKK-NIII
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>>15376942
CASHAAAAAAAANNN
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>>15376435
>Vidar.
>Not Iok.
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>>15376942
idk what i just watched but it was pretty good desu
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>>15376942
Shunjiko rashi
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>>15376928
If McGillis wasn't obsessed with Bael he would have done fine against Mika.
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The stupid kids of Gjallarhorn!
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>>15376376
>>15376435
S3 is going to have Yamagi is the MC piloting Ryusei-Go with Type-S AV system.
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>>15376308
>but Mika is more than that
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>>15377378
Ryusei Go Flauros is now Julieta's though
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>>15377411
She's just delivering it back don't worry.
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Isn't all of tekkadan back on earth? I don't see anything happening other than tekkadan getting killed off and mika getting offed by a seizure or his brain just exploding
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>>15376937
It's presented as a series of cluster bombs the Kimaris Trooper drops on its target.
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>>15377491
what no. they are on Mars.
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>>15377514
Shit I meant planet side, they don't anyone left up in space right?
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>>15377500
You sure you're not talking about his back skirt mines?
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>>15376476
Vidar used his burst sabers against the dort colony fodder
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Is the new OST online yet?
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last days to get in your last prayers for the monkey's survival
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>>15376174
Who's gonna move him now?
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>>15376476
I'm pretty sure Trooper uses the mines in GvG, not the multi-slot accelerator.
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>>15376313
Is this the second ost? where is the first one?
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>>15377644

You know what I was thinking?

Julia doesn't really have a decent suit right now, but the Flauros honestly doesn't fit her fighting style. It's too bad she doesn't have an AV system, because the Bael would be the perfect ride for her.

For some really weird reason, I can't help but think she'll be piloting the Grimgerde once they hose out what's-his-name's bits from it. Sure the suit was Rider Kicked in half, but it's the only thing that can stand up to a Gundam frame.

Unless Galio lends her Ein's system and Rustal lets her pilot Bael, I can't think of what she'd pilot.
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>>15377653
That’s the thing if everyone is in evacuation mode, the moment Barbatos gets disable or damaged I doubt someone can try to rescue him, same reason I think Hush is gone for sure, if the Axe didn’t Kill him since none one could recover him he likely bleed to dead
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>>15377550
>>15377659
Whoops.
>>15377623
So they don't literally explode?
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>>15377411

Why do people keep saying Julieta's getting the Flauros?
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>>15377678
they probably just fixed the julia, it has actually been quite a while since the space fight
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>>15377687
It's more that people desperately want the Flaurus to return and are trying to see way it could, like 2 weeks ago they were hoping Iok would get it.
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>>15376109
Is he the best nigga pilot since based Terry Sanders Jr?
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Animage April 2017
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>>15376099

Does anyone have the link to those adorable parody comics, the ones where all the dead people end up in Build Fighters?

I'm wondering what happens now McGillis has crossed over.
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>>15377687
Presumably because of this shot.
>intact cockpit
>floating toward Rustal's ship
Also the show shits on the orphans at the moment this is another opportunity to shit on the orphans some more. If anything, She'll just get the reactors because the limbs and the head were all blown off.
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>>15377706
> Iok will get flauros!
> no, he has the reginlaze sniper!

> a fucking graze
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>>15377724

It's also because there's really nothing else for her to pilot. It'd be sort of anticlimatic if she showed up in a Graze.
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>>15377731
Graze are cool
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>>15377724
> Julietta shows up with Flauros
> Flauros won't shoot Tekkadan
> It turns to Rustal instead
> Rustal is hit by Flauros' railgun and dies
> Julietta goes insane

Poetic justice.
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>>15377768

What, is she going to fire into space?
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>>15377768
You know Rustal is in space, right?
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>>15377732
and a huge asspull if she showed up in a Gundam. I swear it insults my intelligence and they made the show for retards. Then I come to the threads on /m/, and I see that they were right, their audience really is retarded. The amount of delusions that posters can come up with astounds me.
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>>15377777
Witnessed.
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>>15377782

At this very moment, Rustal's side has:

1.) The Flauros.
2.) The Helmwige
3.) The Kimaris Trooper
4.) Gundam Bael

...all in vaguely functional shapes. They've had weeks to work on the first two.
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>>15377791
Do we have confirmation that they have Flauros yet?
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>>15377793

Actually no. Maybe it was just lost in space.

But I really don't see this ending without a boss fight. Mika will fight something big before he goes down.
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>>15377791
I doubt they can fix Kimaris or Bael's frames in time for a sortie in the last episode, unless the battle drags for days in-universe
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>>15377710
Rats!
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>>15377777
> quints confirm
> Julietta will Iok Rustal
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Will the rest of tekkadan manage to escape? Or will they pop up in chryse only to find chad and ride both dead in their vehicles with gunshot woulds all over them. Then the MIB pops up and guns them all down.
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>>15377814
The battle will last 20 minutes in universe since thats how long it'll take to dig to chryse
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>>15377819
Those cute mouses is the second good thing that came out of this trash of an anime.
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>>15377789
Oh fuck, that is a terrible image and I am terrible for laughing at it.
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>>15377858
Japan has no qualms about it.
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>>15377768
Railguns were destroyed too, the only functional part of the Flauros left is the torso and the reactors.
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>>15377782
>Then I come to the threads on /m/, and I see that they were right, their audience really is retarded. The amount of delusions that posters can come up with astounds me.
What did you expect? Shows like IBO do hilariously well with normal and fujoshi audiences.
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Don't die Dandy
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>>15377872
RIP Orga. He was kept alive to suffer for two seasons, only to die in a shitty way, and be laughed at afterwards. Orga's existence is truly suffering.
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>>15377724
>Gundam Flauros Julietta Graze Custom

ooooh myyyyy
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>>15377922
Remind me why people are against Julieta using the Flauros or any other Gundam? What kind of shitty final battle is the same as how the show started, a blonde piloting a Graze with a team against Barbatos?
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>>15377940
If you really were a mecha fan, you would know the answer to the question.
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>>15377961
>wanting to see a good design not be completely wasted makes you not a mecha fan
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>>15377791
bael and kimaris were fighting when Julieta was going to mars so no on those.
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>>15377906
underrated boy
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>>15377940
i doubt Mika v Juli would be a decent fight even if she had a gundem
honestly not sure why she would even bother going 1v1 against him, she's painfully aware she has no chance of actually killing him
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>>15377997
Infinitely more entertaining if she showed up in something other than a Graze or Reginlaze
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>>15377782
What if Rustal reveals that he has the family Gundam in his ship at all times then goes down to mars and personally kicks Mika's ass
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>>15378007
kinda curious how the reginlaze julia would fare in ground battle
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>>15378020
It would use it's sword whips, surprise.
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>>15377966
It would look nothing like the Flauros anyway. Just its cockpit refitted with some graze Julia spare limbs or something.
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>>15377782
Thanks for copypasting me anon. Its only my second time
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>>15378030
That could be pretty unique, a mid-campaign kit-bash of Flauros and Reginlaze Julia probably some Graze pieces too.
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>>15378008
It would be the same bullshit in a different body.
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>>15377940
she could hit the barrel of some far away guy by throwing her arm at it, give her a dainsleif and she'll solo tekkadan
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>>15377906
Can't this be said with all of Tekkadan?
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Julietta felt bad about killing Tekkadan
How would you guys feel if she told mikazuki she would prolong their fight so the remaining members can flee through the underground tunnel?
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>>15377966
I still don't know if I believe that?
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Mobile Suit Gundam Twilight AXIS Novel Gets Net Anime in June

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-23/mobile-suit-gundam-twilight-axis-novel-gets-net-anime-in-june/.113762
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>>15378240
welcome to 1 week ago
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>>15378120
Meh.
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>>15378240
Wait, net anime? I never heard of this. Does that mean less budget?
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>>15376099
So Gaelio will pilot a repaired bael kill rustal and rally and reform all of gjallahorn under him right?
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>>15378368
No, he's going to take Bael to Mars, save Julieta at the last minute. Together they use the Love Love Sekiha Tenkyoken to destroy the ultimate evil in the universe.
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Guys, how would you feel if the last episode played out like this.

> Mikazuki continues to hold the line while his comrades escape to the tunnel. He is the last of the MS pilots to continue fighting, since he knows he wouldn't make it due to his disabilities.

> Barbatos wants him to live, so it disconnects the AV system from Mika and restores the use of his limbs/eye.

> As Mika is getting out of Barbatos, a Gjallarhorn member notices it and alerts an injured Iok.

> Iok, not in a MS mind you, grabs a nearby rifle and takes aim.

> Niles Mikazuki in the back of the head. Turns out Iok is a master sniper but those skills never transferred to piloting a MS.
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>>15378120
it would be understanding/10
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>>15378426
Eny ending involving Mika dying is a good ending to me.
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>>15378426
>> Iok, not in a MS mind you, grabs a nearby rifle and takes aim.
>> Niles Mikazuki in the back of the head. Turns out Iok is a master sniper but those skills never transferred to piloting a MS.
That would be legitimately fucking hilarious and I'd like to see it happen.
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>>15378407
>Together they use the Love Love Sekiha Tenkyoken to destroy the ultimate evil in the universe
Tekkadan?
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>>15378478
no, space george soros.
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>>15376099
Is this the fanwank thread for normalfags?
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>>15372511
It's really telling about Gaelio's character that all of the things you guys speculate of regarding his presence hinge on the things he has yet to do, could have done, maybe should have done, instead of the things he actually did or expressed desire to do. In short, you guys are posting baseless fanwank.

This post in particular sums the situation up pretty well.
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>>15378520
yeah, and McGillis had no purpose other than leading tekkadan off a cliff, a purpose he shared with Orga
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>>15378542
And Mika has no other purpose than telling Orga where the cliff is and to get there asap.
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>>15378426
> Barbatos wants him to live, so it disconnects the AV system from Mika and restores the use of his limbs/eye
Oh boy, here comes the shitty writing not even Okada would attempt.
>Iok niles Mikazuki in the back of the head, turns out Iok is a master sniper but those skills never transferred to piloting a MS
Oh okay, well shit, that's actually a good way for this to end.
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>>15378426
Mika needs to be stepped on by an MS like the cockroach he is
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>>15378554
Wait a fucking second.

We all know about how Mika's influence, when left unchecked after Biscuit's death, led to Orga making some questionable calls that hurt Tekkadan in the long run.

But what about McGillis? Sure, he had the plan for a long time but Mika was a major influence in him going through with it. The brute strength of Mika and Barbatos was an inspiration to him, fueling his chuuni fantasies about how great Agnika and the OG Gjallarhorn was. He was able to use that strength in order to create the power vacuum in season one, where he decided to sacrifice his friends in the name of the plan. He so believed in the strength of Tekkadan that he continued to partner up with them, and thought they would be able to help him win against Rustal's fleet despite being heavily outnumbered.

And when he realized they weren't what he thought they were, he leaves to go into space to make a suicidal one-man stand against Rustal.

Mika ruined Orga. Mika ruined McGillis. Mika ruined everything.
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>>15376340
i think hush is mc of the spin off manga ibo gekko, maybe the pilot of asteroth?
im sure someone on here has read some of it.
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>>15378589

Well, McGillis is an even greater fool than first believed.

No organisation is invincible, most certainly not when facing an adversary with much more manpower, materiel and resources. Macky was the Peter Pan of Gundam villains.
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>>15378519
>Is this the fanwank thread for normalfags?
yep, /m/ is at the same level as the Tumblr.
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>>15378595
When did Hush lose a hand in S1?
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>>15378611
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Argi_Mirage
holy shit why did they do this.
I always assumed hush was just thrown in to link the show to the manga but if those are two different people then what was the point of such an uninteresting character?
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>>15378595
so you're saying hush gets white hair, gets brain washed into thinking he had a family which was killed by a gundam, gets red/blue eyes, gets a robotic hand, changes his name to argi mirage, AND is a veteran virgin mercenary?

IBO does it again! Greatness
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>>15378630
At the end of last season, a common complaint about IBO was how Mika came off as a monster. I think the thing was they wanted to make Mika more likable as a person, so they gave him an underling to look after. Someone to come around and talk about how great Mika is, meanwhile Mika comes across as a less of an asshat by looking out for someone outside of the original Tekkadan members.
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So, just checked MAL. The review ranked "most helpful" for season 2 gave the show a 3/10. The second most helpful review of season 1 gave it a 3/10.
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>>15378689
>MAL
I found this post -11/10 helpful
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>>15378689
And according to MAL IBO S2 is the best TV Gundam series ever so what do we know
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>>15378600
>No organisation is invincible, most certainly not when facing an adversary with much more asspull powerups and plot armors
I agree
>>15378595
Why the hell are you replying to shitposter?
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Liza whatever his name was still exposed Rustal for starting a war on earth between 2 countries. Is this fact just going to get swept under the rug? If I were SAU or Arbrau I would say fuck that and start my own military to take out gjallarhorn. What do the people on earth thing about this shit? Cmon okada let us know!
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>>15376245

Me again, still not got it but for those who don't have the first, here you go. It's surprisingly not on nyaa.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/5ma5o6
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>>15378724

Even if they want to take out (or at least not rely militarily anymore on) Gjallarhorn, I highly doubt they will be able to do it due to the lack of numbers and tech
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>>15378662
They should have just made him look after the kids. Hush was cute sure, but if that's what they were going for then it wasn't enough. It always felt more like Hush was the one looking after Mika anyways.
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>>15378745
Is this part I or II?
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>>15378772

Season 1. Which, after seeing the Season 2 OST preview, isn't nearly as good.
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Honestly, why are the Japs taking so long with rips. I know it was only released yesterday but usually they are better with this stuff..

The S2 OST is infinitely better than S1; one thing IBO did right was parts of the music.
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>>15376181
He'll probobly die over using the AS system and his mind/soul will reside in barbatos.
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>>15378858
Sound design is masterful in this show
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>>15378884
>his mind/soul will reside in barbatos.
That isn't a thing. Everyone thought that was going to be what Bael was, but that turned out to be nothing at all.
Mika's going to overdo it again in the final episode, and this time when they unplug him his whole body will just shut down and die.
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>>15376376
Personally, i see plenty if Rustal was to survive.

We've all seen the lengths Rustal goes to to get what he wants, that he protects and maintains a system that gives rise to children like tekkadan and people like mcgillis, but instead of trying to make things better, he'd rather crush the "puss" and ensure nothing changes.

To me, things look like they're settling like the first season of gundam 00, where CB gets BTFO, scattered and the A-LAWS are created to crush people even harder, causing more resistence but also leading the System to accept Collateral damage more blatantly.

If Kudelias 'indepence' desire actualyl gets its own development, then she becomes a target (again) and whats left of Tekkadan restores itself, and with Mars probobly suffering the harshest under Rustals regeime, people realise that Gallahorn was the evil and they flock to Tekkadan to gain indepenced again.
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>>15378717

Oh, come off it.

Tekkadan was just as guilty as having the plot bend to their will and you know it.
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>>15378589
Mika truly is a villain prtoagonist. A demon who tempts all who come in his path with delusions of grand schemes and ambitions, and wonderful futures awaiting. Kind of like a microcosm of Tekkadan, no, IBO as a whole
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>>15377800
I'm guessing the "special Units" following Jullieta are all "Ein 2.0" using a new AS that could be perfected using the data on Kimaris's own AS-E system. And that instead of physical connections, they use something like brain waves to affect the minds of the pilots.

Ive always wondered just what sort of intentions Rustal has for Julietta. Since she was trained by the bearded man who took pleasure in manipulating young human debris, i reckon she is also being played. perhaps being forced into a AS test after she stated she wants to be strong as a human instead of losing her humanity will crush her trust in Rustal.

If not, then she'll most liekly kill Akihro for killing Bearded man. simple.
But Akihiro has suffered the most in the series, it'd be a total bitch-with-dick-move to kill him.
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>>15378520
hold up, this is the same sentence, word for word in previous thread.

your not even trying are you?
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>>15378940

Is it really suffering when he's pretty much come to terms with the likelihood of death?

Letting him live after his suffering could be construed as a greater catalyst for despair.
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>>15378957
Yeah for some in death there is peace I guess...
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>>15378920
Individual Tekkadan pilots who are on the main cast, sure. Tekkadan as an entire organization, no. Tekkadan always lost a shit ton of kids when battles were tough, but relied on their tech advantage, tactics and Kudelia and Orga's meagre diplomatic skills to eke out wins. Leaders like Orga never got plot armor, and even biscuit died like a bitch. Even when some characters would get plot armor, it wasn't all that consequential to Tekkadan winning last season. Compare it to Rustal, Iok, and Gaelio, and you can tell which side has it worse.
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>>15378945
yeah, which sums up the situation perfectly.

What is your fucking problem? Why is it hard to deal with reality?
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>>15378904
A lot of memestream anime have excellent OSTs with a surprising amount of variety.
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>>15378983

What?

It's literally when they've gotten the Arianrhod fleet succeed on them that they've started taking quantifiable, meaningful losses. They lost next to fucking no-one except Biscuit and a handful of extras in S1 up to Edmonton, and then those losses didn't matter at all because they just filled in the gaps, and then they just steamrolled everything in their way up to and including Jasley like they always did.
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>>15378984
Please pray tell, what is that reality? I can't wait to eat up the red pill you're about to give us. I can barely contain my excitement.
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>>15379025

Oh, wait, except for the Earth branch.

Which ended up not mattering.
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>>15379026
Not him, but Gaelio really hasn't done a whole lot. Pretty sure more than half of his screen time in s2 has been him just standing there stoically. He stood around and waited for the plot to need him again, killed a few nameless mooks to sell his gunpla, then failed to kill his target a few times. He didn't really accomplish anything until Ep 49.
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>>15378933
I remember Nagai saying at the end of season one he didn't believe Tekkadan were on the right path, but it was important the audience didn't think they were wrong or misguided. In the past the narrative of the show was laid out in a way that made it easy to support Tekkadan, like they didn't do anything wrong. And there is enough folks who did think that and are very unsatisfied with how the story played out.

If anything, Nagai wanted to create an experience where the audience would share their emotions Tekkadan's emotions. Crafting the story so people would just go along with Tekkadan's ride to damnation, unaware of how fucked up things really are. Making deaths melodramatic to the point of absurdity. It even manifests as viewers who get upset with Merribit, Takaki and Zack for daring to question what Tekkadan is doing.

In the end, IBO is like being in Jonestown. It's about buying into a cult-like mentality but being denied access to the refreshments.
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>>15379048
Nobody denied he has less screentime than Tekkadan. Doesn't mean the little he does and even his standing in a hangar isn't a hundred times more interesting than Tekkadan carrying the idiot ball.
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Tekkadan feels so inconsequential to the show. You could've just had the show be about McGillis and his quest for one season and it probably would've been much better. And then another season for Tekkadan actually doing something important if they really need to fill 2 seasons.

What does Tekkadan even add? They're just one of those martian pirate/crime groups, completely unimportant besides having a slightly better reputation. Why does Rustal even care that much about them? It feels like Arianrhod vs Tekkadan was tacked on because they needed a scary antagonist for Tekkadan even though Rustal has a habit of using mercenaries and scumbags himself and there are a thousand ways Rustal could've twisted it to make sure people fear Gjallarhorn's authority, like having Tekkadan submit to him and using them as his personal weapon on Mars. Right now Rustal's throwing away resources fighting Tekkadan for literally no good reason even though their boss came begging like a little bitch ass dog.

I really don't get it, what was the point of Tekkadan other than, I assume, to get slaughtered in the next episode for sympathy points and MUH TRAGIC DARK ANIMU.

There isn't even any real investment for Tekkadan to fight Rustal. Why the fuck did Shino go nuts and kill himself over a missed shot even though everyone escaped safely? Why was the Hashmal v. Barbatos battle actually about McGillis getting the courage to start the revolution, no one in Tekkadan had any growth from or investment in that fight.

I get they tried something "new" but MSG worked because Amuro was a focal character who actually grew and had a rivalry with Char that drove him. White Base actually felt a duty to fight, not only as soldiers, but also because Zeon robbed them of their home and lives and the OYW felt big enough that it seemed reasonable that even kids would put their lives on the line.
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>>15379057
nope, He looks a lot like Mayoiga
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>>15379070
Oh and what was that shit about Orga and King of Mars? The retard turns into a chickenshit every time every time they hit a bump on the road and he gets egged into worse situations by everyone else. He's completely pointless.
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>>15379070
>What does Tekkadan even add?

Tekkadan's actions and methods in season one were an inspiration to McGillis, pushing him to start his plan of taking over Gjallarhorn.

> Why does Rustal even care that much about them?

Tekkadan's actions in season one damaged Gjallarhorn's reputation and weakened their power over the Earth. Because of the failed coup, they have gone from heroes of the people to McGillis's minions, and if Rustal takes them out it will restore people's faith in the g-horn as well as send a message to the next group that wants to start up shit.

> I really don't get it, what was the point of Tekkadan other than, I assume, to get slaughtered in the next episode for sympathy points and MUH TRAGIC DARK ANIMU.

Cautionary tale like Scarface. Tekkadan had no real sense of what their goals were, and were just jumping on any bandwagon to gain power. Now they have paid the price.

> Why the fuck did Shino go nuts and kill himself over a missed shot even though everyone escaped safely?

Because if he made the shot they would have won. Tekkadan would have beat Rustal, McGillis would rule G-horn and make Tekkadan Kings of Mars. It was the shortest path to achieving their goals, and Shino missed the shot.

> Why was the Hashmal v. Barbatos battle actually about McGillis getting the courage to start the revolution

1) McGillis knew his time was short because Rustal knew what he did in season one due to Gaelio's survival.

2) McGillis was inspired by the sheer power of a gundam going all out. McGillis has a power fetish.
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>>15379070
>Tekkadan feels so inconsequential to the show. You could've just had the show be about McGillis and his quest for one season and it probably would've been much better.
This sums up how I feel so much. I know they're supposed to be important by being the first ones to stand up against Gjallajorn and not immediately die, but in the wider view of things, Tekkadan really doesn't feel like they're important players at all, and it ends up dragging the rest of the show to try and make it about them.

We should've had a show centered around Kudelia vs. McGillis, with McGillis trying to scheme and manipulate his way within Gjallajorn and Kudelia trying to build a popular movement amongst other people. The show could've been like a reverse of Code Geass and Tekkadan would've been just another of many contracted mercenaries in the background, maybe even part of Kudelia's supporting cast at most. That way there could've been some conflict between Kudelia and McGillis over methods and personalities, even though they're aiming for the same goal. And it would also force the show to actually show us why Kudeia is sugoi.
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>>15377697
yeah, dunno why i was thinking it was still smashed; that really was a long time ago
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>>15379108
>>15379108
hey look someone actually payed attention
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>>15379096

You have to realize Orga is putting up an act. He has to play the role of being Kamina-lite since he feels he has to live up to Mikazuki's, and later the entirety of Tekkadan's, expectations of him. His mouth wrote a check and they expected him to cash it in.

But he's not the fearless leader they thought he was, he just wants to provide for those under him. That's why when they lose big he breaks down and someone has to push him back into his badass persona out of a misguided belief they're helping him by doing so. It's also why he takes on the most dangerous jobs, because that's what he believes his men thinks he should do and the potential payoffs could get them to whatever their goal is quicker.

Orga had to be someone he wasn't and made some stupid calls that hurt Tekkadan because that's what he believed Mika and the rest of them wanted him to do. After Biscuit's death and Merribit being BTFO, there was no one to temper their influences and help him see straight. In the end, it's all a factor on why Tekkadan is burning.
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>>15379140
>play the role of being Kamina-lite
Kamina revealed he was just playing a role for Simon as well. Orga doesn't have to pretend. He's an straight up Kamina clone, except his Rossiu dies instead of him early on in the first half, his Simon is a lot less sensible and they don't live in a universe with Spiral Power
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>>15379108
I feel like you're missing my point. Yeah, Tekkadan is "important" but it's because they're propping up McGillis's story. Rustal crushing Tekkadan, besides being a really poor option since there will inevitably by Mars nationalists who will still martry Tekkadan, sounds like something that should happen off-screen to demoralize McGillis and push him over the edge into fighting his last battle on his own. Scarface was about Tony's troubles and his triumphs. It was a really intimate movie, I kinda get what you're saying but the way IBO presents Tekkadan is completely different. They're just props for Kudelia and McGillis and there's no attention to them trying to grow their business.

I still don't see why Shino would be emotional enough to get himself and his gundam killed. Especially since he's not even the guy who's going to be king. It's not even like it was a big secret plan they had in waiting all season, I think they tell Shino about the warhead the same episode.
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>>15379148
The major difference is that Kamina's luck only ran out for himself, so the rest of his team didn't have to give up on his ideals. As it turned out, Simon was better than Kamina had been at thinking strategically once he stopped being able to just let Kamina do all his thinking for him, so he was able to carry on those ideals in a better way.

Orga, meanwhile, was espousing ideals that ultimately were fundamentally poisonous to Tekkadan, so not only did his own luck run out, but everyone else's did as well. On top of that, Mika's no Simon. Instead of needing a crutch kicked out from under him so he could fly, he's fundamentally incapable of functioning without someone to give him direction, but at the same time he wound up poisoning Orga's thought processes in a way that led them to where they wound up. I'd almost say he's Simon's polar opposite: a fundamentally broken person who makes the people around him worse for having known him.
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Tekkadan got on this patch because life on Mars Sucks. No Jobs, Poor Conditions, Rampant Slavery, etc

and why does life on mars suck because Corrupt Bastards like Rustal are in charge or clueless rich kids like Iok, Carta and Gaelio
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>>15378940
> "special Units" following Jullieta are Ein 2.0
Nah, I figure they're Dainslef teams
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>>15379187
It'd suck even without any Gjallarhorn presence. Its people are evil or primitive and violent and the planet doesn't have much value besides half metal. Mars would still be a shithole even if it were left on its own just like any primitive shithole in real life.
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>>15379197
hi Nazi
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>>15379209
Really? Half of S1 was about Tekkadan dealing with evil spacenoids until Dort, where we see Martians think of violence as soon as they think they can get their hands on weapons.
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>>15379163
> Rustal crushing Tekkadan, besides being a really poor option since there will inevitably by Mars nationalists who will still martry Tekkadan,

You do realize that McGillis and Tekkadan are regarded as the bad guys trying to take over the world by the population, right? McGillis isn't going to be known for trying to reform a corrupt organization, he's going to be known as the guy who used a bunch of dirty tricks and brute force to try and take it over only to ultimately fall. Tekkadan are going to be known as his minions, especially since their relationship during the Edmonton campaign is known to the people.

>I kinda get what you're saying but the way IBO presents Tekkadan is completely different. They're just props for Kudelia and McGillis and there's no attention to them trying to grow their business.

Except for when they wipe out the Dawn Horizon Corps, using it improve their standings within Teiwaz by clearing out some shipping routes. Not to mention empower their reputation. Or when they agree to the Kings of Mars deal so they can land themselves at the top of the food chain. Or how they went after Jasley even though they would have to abandon their Teiwaz membership and all it brings, and as a result have no other hope than to rely on McGillis keeping his word.

IBO is about all Tekkadan's troubles and triumphs. Pay attention.

> Especially since he's not even the guy who's going to be king.

Seriously man? Tekkadan's whole thing is they look out for each other. It's not about Shino himself being made king, it's about being able to provide for all his buddies.
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>>15379209
Hi Isis
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>>15379221
Not to mention, the show made something clear. If you're on Earth, Gjallarhorn's power is very strong. It's weaker in the colonies, weaker still on Mars to the point there's pirates around, and non-existent out by Jupiter. Hell, the reason why Coral wanted Kudelia dead at CGS was so he could get more support from Nobliss Gordon, hiding from the Gjallarhorn inspectors to do so.

Mars is pretty lawless with Gjallarhorn unable to do much. If anything, Tekkadan's defeat is only going to give them a reason to strengthen the Mars branch in the future in order to prevent this from happening again.
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>>15379237
Even the Martian-born Gjallarhorn soldiers are more evil. Maybe there's something in the soil.

Remember Ein talking about just wanting to kill those brats? Not even Gaelio was that psychopathic and it took a whole shitton of suffering to even push Gaelio that far.

Is McGillis also Martian born? Seemed like he was the human debris kind that you mostly find in space.
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>>15379255
As a Martian, I find IBO's depiction of people from my home planet upsetting. We are not a warmongering people like so much of your media seems to suggest, though Mars Attacks! is quite frankly hilarious. At our core, we are scientists attempting to solve the mysteries of the universe. Like why do people voluntarily choose to eat Indian food?

Also, it upsetting that it keeps the gray man down with your whitewashing of our people. For shame Sunrise, for shame.
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>>15379119
>We should've had a show centered around Kudelia vs. McGillis
>inevitable surge of mcgillis/kudelia shipping
I want it.
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>>15379298
>inevitable surge of mcgillis/kudelia shipping
Absolutely disgusting. Moreover there can only be one maiden of the revolution.
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>>15379065
>his standing in a hangar
>a hundred times more interesting than Tekkadan
Bitch, please. He just stood there being cryptic and enigmatic. The only thing interesting about him was that his inaction gave people n opportunity to theorize. Anon is right, people like talking about what he might do, but you can't really talk much about what he *did* do because all he did was stand around in a hangar.
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>>15379342
The thing interesting about Gaelio is how he's McGillis's foil and the object of McGillis's destruction.

Yes, Gaelio's entirely dependent on McGillis but it serves to make both of them more interesting because you can't have the drama without both of them. Gaelio is McGillis's sins personified and it comes back in a harsh way.
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>>15379342
Except that whenever he stood in a hangar we always get nice scenes, Julietta being jealous that Gaelio is another favourite of Rustal, her growing more accepting of him, a senpai/kohai relationship budding, insights about what Gaelio is thinking, his revenge and his feelings for Ein and McGillis, information about Vidar, etc. Honestly, more interesting stuff happened in that Arianrhod hangar than on Mars as a whole.
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>>15379358
>he's McGillis's foil and the object of McGillis's destruction.
Which didn't happen until episode 49. They even had a chance to have that battle sooner but Gaelio just ran away as soon as Macky got Bael because....um....
Because 50 episode series?
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>>15379372
Because 2 vs 1.

Murdermanlet showed up remember, Gaelio already got schooled by Mcgillis in Grimgerde alone, he may have i,proved and Vidar might have been a step up from Kimaris...but not enough to casually take on Barbatos AND Bael at the same time.
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>>15379372
yeah, it was because of plot armor convenience, totally nothing to do with Barbatos being there making it a 2v1.
damn you okada
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what are these expressions trying to convey?
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>>15379395
> Atra: i'll be the husband
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>>15379372

Gaelio backed off because he wanted to fight McGillis alone. Mikazuki turned up and McGillis cared so little for the rematch he left it to Mika so he could get in Bael.
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>>15379423
>he wanted to fight McGillis alone
>alone
...and every time he fights he just turns control over to Ein.
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>>15379462
He was supposed to be the nanny... FUCK!!!!
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>>15379065
Did we watch the same show?

While Gali has grown a bit here and there, in the end he's actually not that different that he was before. He just broods more. When we first see him, he's a naive whining brat. And he's STILL a naive, whining brat. He just whines about different things now, and there is no reasons for him live (episode 22: That is the only reason I live) now that his beloved Senpai is dead and his desire for revenge (Look at me, senpai) fulfilled. I hope he kills himself, die or arrested by the end of all of this.

Note: He's a terrible pilot. I'd go as far as to say without Ein Julieta would mop the floor with him easily.
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>>15379472
Not "alone" as in he wanted to do it 1-on-1. "Alone" as in he wanted McGillis to be isolated so he'd be absolutely sure he could kill him. The whole point of the switch from Kimaris to Vidar was as a visual representation of how Gaelio wasn't interested in fighting fair anymore. Even when it becomes Kimaris Vidar, it retains "dirty tricks" like the drill knees that Gaelio wouldn't have used before.
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>>15378983
Tekkadan took losses like 5 times in the show.
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>>15379514
>did we watch the same show?
Of course not, nobody sees the same thing when they look at an abstract painting. In the same way, the more a story relies on subtext, the more the interpretations people come up with are going to be different. Moreover different people are gonna be interested in different things. Action fests make some people snooze, the same can be said of romance. When Kira first saw the Mona Lisa all he saw was her hands. Well I like watching Gaelio standing in a hangar in front of Vidar with a pensive look on his face. To each its own.
With that out of the way, I never argued his development was spectacular this season, if anything, his development was more prominent in S1 (it was all about getting rid of the spoiled child in him and giving him a taste of realtity) and we weren't able to witness the evolution of his post Choco betrayal development. S2 was more about discovering Vidar and looking for an image of the old S1 Gaelio underneath the Vidar mask.
But like you said, despite appearances he ends not being that different from what he used to be toward the end of S1, and that's the point. No matter how much he wanted to pretend otherwise, at the end of the day he was still the same on the inside (what you call a naive, whiny brat): a loyal friend with a strong sense of justice. As evidenced by his tears for McGillis. There was actually no post betrayal development, it was a lie.
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Did they reveal Fu Manchu's Gundam yet?

I know he has one.
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>>15379358
You could cut Gaelio entirely and still have the outcome of the revolution plot about the same without much tinkering. In the end Gaelio was only there for a bit of extra drama, completely contained within his and McGillis' plot.
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>>15379639
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>>15379639
he won't get one. they'd have teased the gunpla by now, and there's only one episode left. He's going to die on the bridge of his ship.
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>>15379514
The hero story is a circle, anon. You go through trials and tribulations, succeed, and then return to where you started; Gali is still Gali, but Gali Vidar is not quite the Gaelio who got sortied in the Schwalbe Graze.
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>>15378426
>Credits for episode 50:
>Guest Writer Tomino Yoshiyuki
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>>15379639
If he had one we'd know at this point.
He doesn't. Fighting is for orphans and young noblemen eager to prove their value. Not people who already managed to do so.
Which is refreshing. I hate it when the desk work main villain is turned into a videogame last boss. It makes no sense. Leaders don't go on the frontlines. Only Lelouch makes that okay.
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>>15379370
In your personal opinion. I wasn't even remotely invested in those characters and their chatter added nothing interesting for me.
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>>15379639
Those would be the EB-08s and EB-08jjc. Strings included.
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>>15379654
>The hero story is a circle
Careful now, he's gonna accuse you of supporting the Galifag agenda.
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>>15379670
Well, to each its own. I know I would have dropped the thing if it weren't for those scenes.
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I feel like they have no fucking clue what this show was supposed to be and killing the hero is going to be their cop out for free e-cred. It's the best they can hope for.
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>>15379281
>. At our core, we are scientists attempting to solve the mysteries of the universe. Like why do people voluntarily choose to eat Indian food?


To shit in the streets
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>plot thickens
so what she piloting and what are these "special troops"?

obviously she isn't flying Bael or Kimaris since the fight ended after she left.
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>>15379065
>>15379627
>>15379358
>>15379370
>>15379654
>>15379685

Wow, this confirms what we have known for a long time: Gaelio fans are literally normalfags and fujos, at best, Evageeks or Macross World. They're quite literally watching Mecha for non-mecha cancer.

>>15379681
Yeah you know what, I like how you try to flamebait, but you're such a SJW, you're just taking up this cause to make yourself look good!

Keep trying!
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>>15377906
None of the deaths in IBO are all that impactful.
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>>15379736
>not knowing trumpfags are the normies
You fucked up
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>>15379736
>characters and story are non-mecha cancer
Why are you even watching the show? Just buy the gunpla and get out of the threads.
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>>15379763
This so much.
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>>15379736
>Wow, this confirms what we have known for a long time: Gaelio fans are literally normalfags and fujos, at best, Evageeks or Macross World. They're quite literally watching Mecha for non-mecha cancer.

''deconstruction'' >>15361330
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>>15379769
Hi Macross World
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Those special troops are either a Deinsleif equipped team or some troops with Alaya Vagina
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>>15379813
Glemy Rustal plays his trump card and sends his Newtype unit into battle. An army of Purus.
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>>15379813
It's clearly the brains of Gut's little brother/Biscuit/Shino being puppetmastered by Iok.
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>>15379844
*An army of Eins
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>>15379847
At this point I wouldn't put it past the writers to make Mika smash the corpses of his friends as the final fight.
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>>15379721
>"special troops"?
The special troopes are ten Ein type of soldiers
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>>15379193
I thought so too. But since they're already using Dainslef teams, why call them 'special units'? they're already in action so no real reason to call them anything else. Plus that engineer girl seems to like the idea of people forsaking humanity for power through AS.
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>>15379894
>ten Ein type of soldiers
That fucking madwoman.
Too bad none of these brains are gonna be the brains of the founders of Gallarhorn.
Or maybe they are. And Ein was just an experiment to make sure it would work. Again.
God, this guy can't catch a break, can he.
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The special troops might just be adult AV implants like McGillis. Not sure why everyone is quick to think Ein types when you can get the same results by just sacrificing parts of yourself to AV. It'd be more expensive to turn a guy into a floating torso in some sort of life support AV cockpit than to just install the stuff in a regular cockpit.
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So basically, Yamazin was approcahing Julietta in the hopes she would join her AV special troops?
Thanks god Julietta refused.
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>>15379769
Why reply? People who act like characters have never mattered in mecha are both retarded and in denial.
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>>15379221
>evil spacenoids
Hi, Bask
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>>15379223
>IBO is about all Tekkadan's troubles and triumphs. Pay attention.
Everyone knows this retard. What he's saying is that it doesn't make for a compelling story, and it makes some of the plot elements in season 2 seem forced to include Tekkadan
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>>15379237
>It's weaker in the colonies
How did you reach this conclusion. They seem to be pretty strong out in the colonies from what I've seen.
>Gjallarhorn unable to do much
Unable and unwilling are two different things. Judging by how quickly Iok was able to take down a huge organization like the Turbines with just his own followers, I'd say Gjallajorn is perfectly capable of enforcing rule of law in the outer reaches of space, they just choose not to.
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>>15380233
>some of the plot elements in season 2 seem forced to include Gjallarhorn
FTFY. Like when Iok convinced himself he has to take revenge on Tekkadan for some reason, which ignited the entire revolution plot.
It really depends on your optic. If you chose to believe the entire point of S2 was McGillis and his revolution, then Tekkadan might seem like an extra, only that McGillis' plot turned out to be just as pointless and leading nowhere.
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>>15379298
>mcgillis/kudelia shipping
Truly a Revolutionary OTP
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>>15380248
Naze or one of them said Teiwaz is a mafia in the outer sphere where the police presence is weaker but in the Earth sphere it has to act as a legitimate regular company.
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>>15379647
>cut Gaelio entirely and still have the outcome of the revolution plot about the same without much tinkering
You'd need alot of tinkering. Gaelio is the reason Rustal even knows McGillis is planning anything, and Gaelio revealing McGillis' actions in season one is the reason the other seven stars don't hand over control once he starts pulling his coup. The AV type Ein is also the only system that allows anyone to beat Bael. All of those things I guess you could fix with tweaks, but Gaelio has had a major effect on the plot of this show, however stupid or tediously its been executed.
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>>15380274
The plot outline would essnetially be the same only with less meandering.
>McGillis eventually starts his revolution > loses to Rustal's deinsleif fleet

If it wasn't for Gaelio, Julietta would be the one piloting the Type-E.
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>>15380274
It's amazing that some butthurt chocofags want to remove Gaelio because they're so upset over Choco's death, pathetic as it was. We get it, he went out like a puss but there's no reason to remove Gaelio when Gaelio killing him was the most interesting thing Choco did all show. And no, being a retarded chuuni isn't interesting, what's interesting is seeing the chuuni's fantasy crumble right before he goes out like an autist who shoots at an armored helmet.
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>>15380273
Not saying it isn't weaker, but that Gjallajorn lets its presence be weak. Turbines have smuggling routes all throughout the solar system and Iok is able to hunt them down pretty easily with just his followers. Gjallajorn obviously have the resources to reign in the excesses going on beyond the Earth Sphere, they just don't care.
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>>15380312

>Turbines have smuggling routes all throughout the solar system and Iok is able to hunt them down pretty easily with just his followers.

Doesn't Iok have leaks from Jasley so that hunting them down were much easier? He also planned to bring Iok to Saisei in order to dispose McMurdo, but that didn't panned out
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>the Hekija is a precious keepsake from the Turbines!
>gets wrecked and no one says a thing

What was the point? What was the point of Hush and him getting the Hekija? He was terrible.
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>>15379647
This is why I'd argue that Gaelio *has* to kill Rustal. Why even bother throwing the GaliGali Mk.2 plotline in if it just ends in a self-contained conclusion? It's trite shonen bullshit, but this is Gundam.

Or nothing could happen because this show is trash

>>15379721
Julietta and her boys got Ein'd. They're wierd cyborg suits now, Mika's gonna brick himself to kill all of them, and Gaelio is going to get all mad that Rustal resorted to the same methods that McGillis used.
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>>15380359
McGillis never said it so Gali didn't forgive him. Gali's not killing Rustal so stop trying to spread this meme

Gali probably already knows about the special soldiers. He got the AV surgery himself, he hooks up the MS and you can see it when the Type-E activates. The processing is just handled by Ein's brain instead of his own. That's why he also apologized to Mika for hating him. Julietta couldn't have had the time to get the surgery, she's seen exactly as she was before the GaliChoco fight and right after the battle ends we find out she already went down to Mars.
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>>15379721
Dainsleif teams
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>>15380296
Just because you're so far up one chracter's ass that you see nothing redeeming bout the other character other than the satisfaction of seeing him die doesn't mean everyone else is looking at the show the same way. It's obvious from the way you wrote that, you straight up hate McGillis because you're so far up Gaelio's ass you can see out of his eyes. You are invested enough in Gaelio that you actively dislike his enemy.
I am not particularly invested in either of them. I'm equally happy to see Bael or Vidar wrecking shit on the battlefield, but the fact of the matter is that McGillis was a main character in s2 and Gaelio was a supporting character. Calling him a major supporting character is arguable but not automatic since the only thing he did the entire season was fight McGillis 1.5 times and give couple of cryptic pep talks to a minor supporting character.
You can remove Gaelio from s2 without altering the plot much. You can have McGillis's chuuni fantasy crumble (more realistically) just by having Rustal's troops slowly overwhelm him. If you want to have the "his crimes come back to haunt him" you could just have Tekkadan find out that he leaked Orga's position and refuse to back him up. That's all you'd have to change to sweep Gaelio under the rug.
You can't remove McGillis the same way because the entire plot of s2 revolves around him. He's a main character, Gaelio isn't.
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>>15380345
Maybe it was symbolic that as Turbines fell first, their Hejika also fell first during Tekkadan's final stand.
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>>15379721
Human Debris torsos affixed installed into Reginlazes and regular Julletta in a twin reactor suit.
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everyone itt is a dumb fucking nigger
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>>15376181
Damn, can you imagine if Mika dies protecting Ride, just like Orga? I almost want to see this happen for the level of psychological damage that will cause Ride.
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>>15379721
>"special troops"
just the few ghallahjorn soldiers that aren't drooling retards and can actually move and attack at the same time
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>>15380608
Choco's character arc in S2 wouldn't make sense without McGillis.

Gaelio's wouldn't have happened without McGillis.

>since the only thing he did the entire season was fight McGillis 1.5 times and give couple of cryptic pep talks to a minor supporting character.
No Gaelio was the one who pushed the confrontation when he revealed he was alive on Mars.

>You can have McGillis's chuuni fantasy crumble (more realistically) just by having Rustal's troops slowly overwhelm him.
I'd say it doesn't matter, type E was a better system and McGillis getting beaten badly would have made sense.

>you could just have Tekkadan find out that he leaked Orga's position and refuse to back him up.
They weren't his friends and never cared about him its not the same.

It would be easier to remove Tekkadan from S2.
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>>15380359
So, Gaelio takes Bael then? Kimaris Vidar is a total wreck now.
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>>15380854
I doubt Gaelio will fight anymore. He's done with this shit.
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>>15380934
Now he can enjoy his sister for the rest of his life
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The Mika is dragging everyone to their deaths because he's too stupid to concieve of any other way out
He still doesn't realise that not everyone has his mc plot armour
He doesn't realise his own is about to run out
What an ending
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>>15380967
Honestly it feels like he's too busy enjoying the killing of grunts to look out for his allies. Mika hadn't even noticed Hush went in too far until he got killed. What an ending indeed.
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>>15380965
>implying
Almiria will reject him.
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>>15380967
>>15380976
I was hoping orga would die much earlier on and that we'd see Mika grow out of this but i guess it's too late for that now
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>>15380976
I wouldn't say that. Mikazuki showed more emotion than he normally does over Hush's demise. I think that's significant, especially given how he reacted to being in danger the first time he piloted a mobile suit.
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>>15380990
>I wouldn't say that. Mikazuki showed more emotion than he normally does over Hush's demise
Yeah i agree. You could tell he was worried. In the end MIka acknowledged him. But he isn't dead so
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>>15380990
I never said he didn't feel anything. Just that he didn't pay attention to what others were doing. He's so focused on his own enemies, he doesn't look out for the people weaker than himself.
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>>15380983
You're not really that off in that conclusion. Mika and Orga were always partners in their codependence. Mika practically made the decisions as much as Orga did. He just did in a silent partner sort of way. Orga says in the very beginning that no matter what his own plan was, if Mika wasn't on board, then the entire plan is scrapped. However, because the two knew each other so well, he also knew when and for what Mika would be on board with and when he wouldn't be.

So, in a way, Mika and Orga sort of led Tekkadan together, even if it was moreso that one was the "king" as the other was his "sword". Now the king is dead, but the sword still knows what it's wielder would have wanted done.
On the other hand, Julieta clearly doesn't give a fuck at this point after Rustal pointed out that he was one of the shady men she was pitying Tekkadan over being manipulated by. Even Iok wasn't that blind.
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>>15381007
Yeah, He encourage others to keep on living instead of blinded by revenge but still with his own way and that is: threatening anyone who defy Orga’s last order. You can even see his raging eyes when he was talking revealing his suppressed fury. Mika is doing good in this desperate time in the absense of Orga as you can expect from someone who gave sound advise to Kudelia when it’s really needed as she was hesitating back in S1 whether or not to sign a deal with McMurdo and Orga wasn’t there. The consistency is still there.
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>>15381022
The way I see it it's not so much that he's suppressing fury or anything, after all Mika has a peculiar relationship with death, he doesn't understand why you'd mourn someone, because he believes he'll meet Orga in the afterlife. He's just intent on fullfilling his last order, but the thing is, he'll never fullfill it because he doesn't know where that place he's looking for is. This must be depressing for Mika. He's probably just suicidal right now. He's running around and fighting like a headless chicken, waiting for a swift death that takes too long to come. Just like Choco.
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>>15376376
There's retarded amounts of potential for a solar-system trotting adventure with Mika's son in a Bounty-Hunt Calamity War 2.0 to exterminate the remaining Mobile Armours. Granted I'd rather NOT have season 3 than have another round of great but wasted world concepts/ideas and mecha designs.
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>>15381007
>Julieta clearly doesn't give a fuck
she obviously gies a fuck, else she wouldn't pity them, hse just doesnt give a fuck hard enough for her to go against the guy who saved her from the orphan life.
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>>15381007

> On the other hand, Julieta clearly doesn't give a fuck at this point after Rustal pointed out that he was one of the shady men she was pitying Tekkadan over being manipulated by. Even Iok wasn't that blind.

I'm wondering if everyone's oblivious to the greater context.

Rustal is saying "Look, don't trust me blindly. I do shady things too - think for yourself, Julieta. Trusting someone blindly is how you end up like McGillis."
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>RIP Ride

I hope so.
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>Don't talk to me or my son ever again
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>>15381154
>implying someone doesn't jump in at the last moment to protect him
>dying in the process
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>>15381154
> DOOOOOOODGE
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Unless I'm missing something, I thought they said they won't post preview pictures
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>>15381163

I really hope Ride dies. I actually laughed at Hush's death, because I was thinking "WHO WILL SAVE HUSH NOW?"

Turns out the answer is NO ONE, FUCKO.
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>>15381159
Akihiro should have taken Hush roll this season, he was already bro with Mika since S1 and they barely interacted this season, at least it’s good to see Barbatos and Gusion side by side
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>>15381154
> ライドは不在でも雷電号も戦場へ
google translate suggests Ride is not actually the one piloting the raiden go
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>>15376181
Will Mika be the first gundam mc to die during his own show, I know amuro did during the cca movie but except for him is there en any other gundam MCs that died?
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>>15381163
Iznario.
Risking it all for the boipussi.
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>>15381179
Yeah he isn’t, Ride is with Chad in the city, dumb kids that don’t dodge are interchangeable in the custom Shiden
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>>15381183
Best Boy.
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>>15381154
> last fight
> eugene cant wait to bitch to orga in heaven
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>>15381159
They look really ungainly.
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>>15381205
>Tfw Orga will never put his banana inside of your boipussy.
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>>15381208
> "orga, what should i do" intensifies
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Still no preview of what Julieta is using, if its just another Reginlaze I am going to be severely disappointed.
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>>15381182
Bernie if you count him as the MC and Flit was probably dead in the epilogue.
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>>15381205
So many pretty orphans. Delicious.
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>>15381208
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>>15381154
Ride is going to earth so he'll survive along Chad
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>>15381217
wait and hope
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>>15381219
Mika isn't blonde.
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>>15381223
>>15381223
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>>15381159
Who will go first?
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>>15381233
Mika, Aki isn't allowed to die he is only allowed to live and suffer.
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>>15381224
>Survive
They're useless kids. They will die in a way or another.

Yamagay can work as a personal gigolo of the Fareed family.
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>>15381242
i wonder if Guts becoming firends with Iok would be enough for Iok to finally fucking die
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>>15381214
Thing is, with Mika, he may be fighting for Orga, but at the very least, he's not shouting all over the battlefield about it, like Gaelio (MUH MAGUGIRISU-SENPAI), Julieta and Iok (MUH RUSTAL-SAMA).
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>>15381233
Akihiro obviously. Mika will go last. After everyone is killed.
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>>15381218
He just died of old age, so he did die, but it isn't the kind of death I was thinking of.
Bernie is fairgame, but I saw Al is the true mc of 0080.
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>>15381250
yeah, thank christ Mika is the catatonic kind of autist instead of the screeching kind of autist
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Fuck off, Why do the normalfags, fujos, Evageeks and Macross World hate Mika so much?
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>>15381292
are you going to post that in every ibo thread?
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>>15381303
hi Macross World
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>>15381303
Stop replying to ACK anon.
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>>15381303
>>15381346
samefag
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>>15381346
ACK?
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>>15381159
Barbatos looks like a fucking dino.
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>>15381465
Stop replying to Macross World anon.
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>>15381562
Quiet ACK.
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>>15381565
Quiet normalfag
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>>15381346
>>15381565
>ACK
Holy shit, we have a SJW from /v/,
please go back to >>>/v/

>>15381465
>ACK
its a meme used by SJW in /v/.
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>>15381465
TCP for life
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>>15381182
like a lot of the gundam MC's where supposed to die or died in novelization Amuro and Kamile died in novelization Kira was supposed to die in Seed same with Shin in destiny (Though it was unconfirmed whether or not he really was) It was planed for Uso to die as well. It just seems like Sunrise dosent have the balls to kill off MC's even when the author wants to do it
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>>15379639
>Did they reveal Fu Manchu's Gundam yet?
>I know he has one.
Nah, you know you don't (but I'm curious what was actually cannonically stated about which other families besides Bauduin).

Anyway they don't seem to care. I think it's becoming clear that the elite think they are out of date and vulgar at best, like a 70s muscle car with no power steering or airbag or USB port.

Mackie just had a boner for MoPar, which became a raging blue-veiner after he killed off his snobby friends and started rolling with the shirtless Martian tractor pull crowd

also 100% agree w/ poast of the Beast
>>15379666
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>>15381159
lol, that's awesome. looks ridiculous. they're supposed to be about the same size, right? i don't actually know
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