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Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

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Episode 49 - Ver. 5.0
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>>15362211
First for Mika
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>>15362211
Lewd
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>The last time we saw episode 50 was in 00
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So is it safe to assume House Fareed is fucking finished?

Iznario under house arrest for the rest of his life.
His one heir thrown out of Gjallarhorn and killed.
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>>15362261
>Iznario under house arrest for the rest of his life.
Well, money can do anything
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>>15362261
If Almiria keeps her marriage, then she's the only person left.
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>Gaileo wears the Vidar mask after juryrigging his way into Bael's cockpit declaring himself as McGillis while killing Rustal
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>>15362281
This
Almiria will continue chococharĀ“s legacy and will reform Gjallarhorn
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rattle rattle rattle
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>>15362292
Almira is 10
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>>15362340
And?
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>>15362340
Almiria is 10/10 cutieĻ€
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Mika the murderer and his evil crew ruined gundam's legacy
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>>15362357
i miss space magic/ghosts
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>>15362211
Holy shit did they just kill IBO Char?
Will this go full cheap-scenario anime tricks way of just "ha lol I died but here I'm alive" way?
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>>15362357
>People are still hyperbolizing IBO as a cataclysm IBO can't recover from even though we're getting a ton of new content this year
Redditors plague this board.
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>>15362367
I miss decent powered beams.
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>>15362357
>Gaelio the shoujo bishounen and his evil crew ruined gundam's legacy and its fandom

I agree
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Why the FUCK did Eugene get in the robot? They're all convinced they are going to die there. Eugene was the second in command. The rest of Tekkadan is going to need someone to follow, and he seems to be the only living member capable enough to do that. But instead, he decides to go into a situation where he'll probably die, despite the fact he's not a good pilot. Fucking stupid.
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>>15362290
I can see it happening.
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>>15362211
second to last episode and the animation is still absolute trash. There wasnt even any effort put into the gaelio mcgillis fight.
I have no hope for the finale
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>tekadan uses AV system to their advantage
Ok
>gaelio rigged an AV system to his advantage
REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR ASS PULL
>tekadan solos a fleet
Ok
>tekadan doesn't solo a fleet
REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR
>enemy pilot trade blows with Mika, Mika destroyed them without a scratch
Ok
>Julie trade blows with Mika, Mika destroyed her without a scratch
REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR
>tataki almost died, heal in bath tub
Ok
>Julie almost died, heal in bath tub
REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR
>enemy failed their objective
Ok
>tekadan failed their objective
REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR
>tekadan abandoned their backing force for revenge
Ok
>gaelio works with a powerful guy for revenge
REEEEE FUCKING PATHETIC GAELIO
>Mika raping everything with a mace
Ok
>someone else couldn't penetrate actual armor or a metal mask
REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR
>chocoman failed to stab cockpit three times
REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR

You guys did it, you have truly become irony bitching fans
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>>15362425
Despite all the quality this was the thing that pissed me off most. The fucking lazy negative, it always looks so cheap
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>>15362427
This has been the greatest episode yet
Everybody is so fucking assblasted it's hilarious
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>>15362448
What was the point of killing Hush anyway?
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Imagine this show from Rustal's point of view
Tekkadan is just a long sidequest
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>>15362425
My biggest issue is that the editng was once again a mess.
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>>15362451

This. The entertainment and feedback from watching everyone getting asspained is fantastic weekly fun.
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>>15362353
If they do this we riot
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>>15362457
What was the point of Hush anyway?
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>>15362383
IBO is a calamity upon gundam. Among the worst timelines
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>>15362427

This. This a thousand times. This.

This is exactly what /m/ has become in the last three months.
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>>15362479
Same, this is the only entertainment the show provides. I'm just here for mobile suits
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>>15362427

is that really the general consensus on /m/? From what I've gathered most people liked how Ein and Gaelio got their revenge.

Perhaps you're refering to posts on some other gundam forum.
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>>15362427
This is actually accurate.

Watch the monkey crush mika with REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR next week.
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>>15362425
Am I the only one who can't tell what the fuck was going on in the Bael vs. Kimaris fight?

All I could tell was that they were stabbing each other until they went inside the ship for reasons.
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>>15362495
You're just a colossal baby. This show won't stop Gundam from existing any time soon.
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>>15362506
People stopped cheering for muh key when they realized that his plan was nothing more than muh bael, then his remaining fanbase was banking on muh bael sikrit power which once again was nothing more than muh bael.
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>>15362427
Don't forget
>chocoman puts on helmet when exiting his Mobile Suit because its still in fucking space
Ok
>Gaelio has his helmet on but doesn't remove it
REEEEE FUCKING PLOT ARMOR
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>>15362513
The editing for action sequences in IBO is a mess because Nagai is utterly incompetent at those. Among many other things.
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>>15362513

/m/ was flipping out Gaelio didn't use the KV's Dainsleif launcher once. If you watch the fight he doesn't even have the lance, it got knocked away halfway through.

The bit where he pulled the KV's shield arm off to toss it at McGillis whilst he knee'd into Bael with the drill was brutal.
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>>15362544

KIMARIS THICC THIGHS
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RIP coolest guy. Your pure autism will be missed.
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>>15362544
McGillis being on his back with Gaelio between his legs penetrating him is deliberate right?
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>>15362564
Probably.
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>>15362513

You're not the only one. Had to look over it multiple times to notice Ein was bleeding out and that Gaelio had ripped off his fucking shield to toss for some reason.

There's also things that don't make sense to me like McGillis tossing one of his swords to the side mid-fight with the Kimaris.
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Tekkadan

Protagonists with a strong sense of nakama. Not afraid to get their hands dirty, doing whatever it take in order to survive. However, they have no real ideals and their goals are vaguely defined with no planned out path. As a result, they take any opportunity they can to move forward which results in them getting in over their head and playing politics they don't understand.

McGillis

A prettyboy protagonist with strong ideals, clearly set goals, and has plans in order to reach them. However, he is willing to stoop to more underhanded measures in the name of his dreams, including sacrificing his namaka. This comes to bite him in the ass as his BFF turned out to be alive and derailed his plans, making McGillis unable to achieve his dream.
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If there's one thing this show does right, it's show how idiotic hotblooded super robot logic is. It doesn't matter if you have some super prototype laying around. It doesn't matter how smart you are at using the terrain to your advantage, the reality is that if you go against the status quo, you're gonna lose faster than Osama Bin Laden. If you weren't born rich, tough shit. Accept it and die like the gutter filth thtat you are.

It's the same with all of these SJWs, poorfags, and tumblrina trans-testicles. We won and they lost. History paints them as the weak party, so they should just accept it.

Sorry space rats. Life isn't all Row Row fight the power.
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>>15362544

>"Gaelio. Your soft heart and words will never reach me."
>Garma proceeds to insert a giant drill into his cockpit

God, people were so right about this show. The revenge boner is the absolute best part of it.
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>>15362588
hey you actually paid attention

nice job anon!
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>>15362599
that's probally my favriote part of S2 now. also everyone was all like:

>The Katana is going finish Choco off guys
>Katana master race

then the one thing that does work is the fucking Drill Knees everyone on /m/ was bitching about when the Kimaris Vidar model kit was shown.
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S2 has been so damn good, even to the extent that it makes some of the scenes in the disappointing first season more interesting now that you know the true motives behind certain characters actions.
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>>15362638
>so damn good
Shitposting about it was fun but it wasn't that good
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Galieo!
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>>15362588
And the thing is that they were pretty much too damaged to change their ways. Gali would have went along with a less drastic version of Macky's plans and Orga could have slowed the fuck down but Macky and Tekkadan were too damaged toosee things differently like Gali and Julietta who were raised in an environment that was nurturing enough.
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>>15362425
The concept of them mauling each other was great. Seeing Gail rip himself apart to destroy bael was cool. Smashing into ships was cool.
The animation ruined this. Try to be fast but quality is high for most of the fight. Last important fight and no budget was given.
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>>15362650
MacGills!
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>Red Eyes Kimaris

what did they mean by this?
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>>15362661
Ein mode
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>>15362427
>The Kimaris hits Bael's swords with the drill lance
>Tanks it like a champ

>The Kimaris hits Bael's swords with the bitch ass fake katana
>They break

Defend this Gaeliofag
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>>15362506
Their is never a clear consensus on /m/ other than destiny and age were bad.

However their has been a lot of plot armor rants since Julietta stopped Shino.
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>>15362457
plot device to help lead up to mika losing his temper.
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>>15362669
>Kimaris is the strongest mobile suit in the show
Why is Gaelio such a shitty pilot
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>>15362391
So you got it all figured out do ya? Why did it take so long?
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>>15362669
You're right the drill lance should have broke the swords.
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>>15362591
>It's the same with all of these SJWs, poorfags, and tumblrina trans-testicles. We won and they lost. History paints them as the weak party, so they should just accept it.
Not quite.
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>>15362675
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>>15362669
Sword's made out of the same MS frame alloy.
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>>15362699
1/100 WHEN?
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>>15362661
Robot eyes are always red under the lens.

Even the SBS Gundam had red eyes under the green eyepiece.
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>>15362702
NEVER

>>15362591
nice headcanon to justify the plot armor and asspull
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>>15362617

If only Isurugi and McGillis knew that this man in the mystery suit would kill them both before the end of this mess.
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>>15362699
Bael's swords are made out of the same stuff though.
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>>15362699
Nearly all the melee weapons are MS frame alloy. Including things like barbatos's mace, Rebake's axe, etc.
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>>15362699

Shot Lance > Drill Lance > GN Lance > Heat Lance
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>>15362611
I try.

This was really more I've been comparing IBO to run of the mill shonen shows for awhile now, stuff like Naruto or One Piece. At times the show seems like it wants to defy the conventions usually present in those shows while opening them up for the viewer to think about, other times it feels like it just wants to be a grittier version of them.

This little bit of analysis is just something I cobbled together. Tekkadan provides the friendship themes of shonen, but the pursuing their dreams bit is rather weak. I once heard a quote about Ichigo that I felt summed up Tekkadan pretty well.

> As the story goes on, we get very little in the way of reinforcing that character or developing them further. Mostly what we get instead are just kind of sad anime flashbacks. ... Sad flashbacks are not a replacement to actually developing and sustaining a character. By the end of Bleach, a lot of characters were very similar to how they were when they were first introduced and some have even gotten far less interesting.

> No better example of this than main character Ichigo Kurosaki. Ichigo starts out as a Yusuke Urameshi-style badass who kicks people in the face and makes friends with ghosts. But by the end of the Hueco Mundo arc he's a shell of what he was. A boring, somber figure whose only real motivation is that he wants to fight to protect his friends. This in itself is a serious problem because it creates a cycle with Ichigo where he is constantly reacting to things happening to him, while never actually being proactive in his own life.

The inverse is true for McGillis. He has dreams, ambition and ideals while being very proactive. He is a pure character, but pure does not mean what he is doing is right (pic related)
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>>15362290
I like Choco man as an example of being lonely wolf doesn't work.
If he asked Gali and that white haired girl to join him in the revolution, they'd gladly join him.
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>>15362713
Bael's swords are made of the same stuff as Rex's claws. Some sort of unnamed super rare alloy other than the MS frame alloy.
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>>15362712
Almiria was the one that killed Isurugi really
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>>15362734
No the Bael's manual says it's Gundam frame material. You're thinking of the Grimgerde.
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>>15362713
Is it? Check up manual, I'm gonna do that. I thought that and Grimgerde was a different type of metal.
>>15362717
Was it? I thought they bullshitted that those alloys were hard to produce for weaponry, hence why it's always said to be special (Teiwaz dansleif, Astaroth)
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>>15362699

>KV is shit!
>Give me back Vidar!
>THE LEGS ARE SHIT!

(It ends up being fantastic)

Well just... god damn, this one really stumped me.
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>>15362727
>If he asked Gali and that white haired girl to join him in the revolution, they'd gladly join him.

Gaelio had a hate boner for AV
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>>15362588
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>>15362690
>Using a liberal who served his two terms as b8

Nice try. I bet you're a cuck like him.

>>15362711
Not my fault your blonde traitor bitchboy was on the wrong side of history. Go watch Mazinger or some shit if you want your precious fairy tale ending where the "Heroes" win.
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>>15362741
Correct about that.
If they're both the same, would make sense if clashing against both would break it, and i guess bael would get worn down more since he was using it against everything else if you want to bullshit why his broke first
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At least the soundtrack's great.
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>>15362651
I think it's more they brought out the worst in each other. Tekkadan always wanted to go up in the world despite not having any real plans on how to do so, all McGillis did was promise to put them at the top in exchange for their support in his rebellion. Meanwhile, McGillis looked at Tekkadan and saw the kinds of kids that fought alongside Agnika during the Calamity war (since the implications of AV tech means the original Gundam pilots were all kids). It fueled his desires to take Bael and bring about the world Agnika's actions inspired him to believe in. But he never saw things for what they really were, Bael wasn't enough to defeat Rustal and Tekkadan weren't the OG Gundam pilots fighting to save humanity from the mobile armors. McGillis only saw what he wanted to see.

They ruined each other like a bad celebrity marriage.
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>>15362713
Pretty sure its in the Grimgerdes manual or something, the swords are made from super rare and super strong alloy, not sure why they broke, to be honest, I don't think they should have broke.

Even if Gailio's katana was made from the same material as the gundam frames, I remember reading/hearing the Grimgerdes/Baels swords material was stronger than that.
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>>15362747
color scheme is still bad.
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>>15362764
I saw the wings shooting something, what is was, where is the cannon?
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>>15362763

But the heroes -do- win in Mazinger.

Fingerquotes have no place there.
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>>15362776
Just read another post, curious, I thought Bael used the swords from Grimgerde? or are they completely diferent swords?

Seems a waste oferde if theyare dierent swords entirely
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>>15362776
>>15362764
Bael's swords are just regular Gundam metal. Grimgerde has super rare metal that's tougher than Gundam metal.

The fact that they look the same is a huge deception.
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>>15362580

The aforementioned sword was broken, so.
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>>15362784
Bael's are longer I think and have a slightly different guard.
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>>15362785
Well bollocks, I didn't realise that, they do look very similar...if I were McGillis, I'd have switched out Baels swords for Grimgerdes, surely he'd still have access to them or something.
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>>15362580
Gaelio ripped out the shield and tossed it to destroy one of Bael's wings
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>>15362383
>muh bael now voices Jimenez
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>>15362774
OST this week! Thatā€™s something good
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Everyone who rooted for Choco is actually a closet pedophile or a manchild who still find chunnis interesting
Prove me wrong
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>>15362764
the sword is also 300+ years old so i guess metal fatigue is a thing
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Anyone else find it hilarious how completely overshadowed Hush getting killed was in comparison the Fareed/Bauduin super bowl?
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>QUALITY everywhere during Macky's final battle

When is Gundam going to just switch to full CG? I'd rather have good fights and decent CG over this shit. And maybe they'd give Guts some actual fights instead of complaining it's too hard to animate.
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>Almiria is actually pregnant
>Atra is pregnant
>mika dies too
>tekkadan and the revolution fails
>the iron blooded orphans are the children of mcgillis and mika
>next season is their children finally bringing gjallarhorn to justice

rate
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>>15362809
Was rooting for Gaelio, but must admit, Kimaris Vidar hasn't grown on me much, would have loved to have seen more Vidar in action.
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>>15362295
Who is this mr. bones?
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>>15362801
Sergei/McMurdo is now Gore, and Aigis is Zelenin. Funny how that works out.
>Kazuma Kaneko and Masayuki Doi will never design Gundam Frames as guests
>>15362820
Dantalion.
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>>15362295
>G-71
What kind of secrets does the 2nd to last Gundam hold?
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>>15362813
Hush got what he deservedā€¦
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>>15362828
> Dantalion.
I'm starting to like it more and more.
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I cannot believe it's going to be over next week, what a series this was
Iron blooded orphans was truly a trendsetter in every sense of the word, introducing visceral and intense melee combat that Gundam has not witnessed ever before; you could really feel the grit and weight of the attacks and seeing the characters bloodied and struggling to live tugged at the heartstrings deeply
And the characters, who are so deeply thought provoking and with such masterfully told story arcs, with plenty of development
The presentation of such a gray morality of those who live in the twisted world of the Post-Disaster world - there are no true winners, to gain something the characters must have to give something up as well
There is a sense of realism with the how the characters are portrayed as well, those who hold their ideals up high, Mcgllis, Iok, Carta all crash and burn
Thank you, Nagai and Okada for crafting such a masterpiece - the biggest flaw is that the bar is set so high that I'm afraid future Gundam works will never be able to hold a candle to Iron-Blooded Orphans
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>>15362816
Atra is a midget, but Almiria is actually a child at most she is 12 right now, I doubt she can get pregnant, but who knows
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>>15362829
Stronger than Bael
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>>15362427

m is fucking stupid, more at a11
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>>15362727
victims of child sexual abuse often push away their friends and loved ones.
>>15362290
>Gaelio wears the Vidar mask and marries his sister declaring himself as MicGillis
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>>15362814
>Not mixing traced over CG with those detailed close ups
Thing is I swear Thunderbolt S1 mixed 3D and 2D well for japan.
>>15362828
>mcmurdo is neutral route
I knew he was based.
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>>15362457

that you can't make it from just wanting to alone
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Chocofags COMPLETELY BTFO
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>>15362764

>Mentions nothing about machine guns in the main wing joints
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>>15362661

I thought it was limiter unlock but the lense was just destroyed like exia repair
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>>15362764

I'm still bothered by Bael's lack of gimmick, though I guess high speed melee, no guns Final Destination isn't unique. Like Trieze's ideal Mobile Suit
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I feel this gundam will end like 0083, but in a more depressing way
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>>15362844
Bael doesn't seem that strong in the first place... McGillis was always a good pilot and then he got the AV installed and was inspired by MUH SOUL OF AGNIKA.
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>>15362828
>Gundam Frame designed by Kaneko
Whoa son this is dangerous territory

>>15362838
Where do you people even find this? Reddit?
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>>15362863
Atra will reveal she was Rustal's girlfriend and betray them?
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>>15362869
minus that
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>>15362802
Hells yeah. I can never disparage the gratuitous amounts of flamenco guitar in this series at least.
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Would Gjallarhorn be disbanded?
Rustal will just become a Choco 2.0 at this point
being "obsessed with power"
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>>15362763
Which black person do you think we're talking about here, boy?
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>>15362713
and the ones which saw most use broke
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>>15362848
>victims of child sexual abuse often push away their friends and loved ones.
Yeah, McGillis telling Carta that she shouldn't play with him is a really obvious early example of that.
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>>15362784
They look the same because mcgillis was role playing agnika and bael
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>>15362856
Electro magnetic cannon
>>15362867
He did an orbital frame and devil triggers, wouldn't mind seeing Gundam Ose.
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>>15362657
>MacaGillus!
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>>15362895
>Ose
Marchosias comes first
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>>15362838
Is that a pasta?
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>>15362892
Aye I thought that, fits his character well, but I thought he carried them over to Bael too, seems a waste really if Grimgerde has better swords than Bael.
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>>15362802
I will be buying
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>>15362863
So a few guys die in an epic battle, baddies get btfo at the end but they get reformed into a new group that looks like its going to be something good but we all know its gonna go to shit, and the heroes are onboard with this new thing
Also mc gets cucked by a plot twist
The problem is that all 3 of murder manlets husbandos are dead so no bromance
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>>15362880
If gali doesn't kill rustal then nothing will change. I'm curious so see how this plays out.
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>>15362895
>Gundam Ose
Will it be a fundoshi Cheetahman Gundam?
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>>15362878
Mars = Space Mexico is a criminally under-explored concept.
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>>15362919
Rustal doesn't set all the policies
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>>15362890
You know, I remembered these flashbacks, but you just now allowed it to hit me the significance of the way he acted and how the dynamic they had later in life was so tragic. And now I'm sad.
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>>15362919
I don't see a reason for killing rustal, gaelio has no grudge against him
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>>15362880
Rustal is clearly not a man obsessed with power, namely because he already controls immense power and wields it mostly to maintain order.

We've already picked some of his thoughts and he doesn't believe in individuals determining the course of history, but rather many people over a course of time. And he believes Gjallarhorn's future will be determined by the next generation. He's like an evil Bright. I'm certain he's going to put the fate of the Arianrhod fleet in Gaelio's hands after seeing the conclusion of Gaelio and McGillis's fight. In fact, the fact that McGillis lost is a crushing defeat to the ideology of absolute power, so it wouldn't make sense for Rustal to pursue it right after McGillis was crushed by Gaelio. I'm also certain he's not simply "using" Gaelio and Julietta, rather he wants them to be tested to see what kind of beliefs and people will be taking over Gjallarhorn with the next generation.

Of course, I could be completely mistaking his character, but from the things he's said and done Rustal is a very pragmatic and self-aware person, who understands that individuals are just pieces of a much bigger picture. I don't see him becoming the new dictator of the world, he seems more like the kind to retire and enjoy the benefits he's reaped while in power while leaving the organization to his successors.
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>>15362949
They will reform Gjallarhorn!
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In S1, I got a gritty gundam with hand to hand combat and some sweet steel on steel action. S2 just made me hate Okada.
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>>15362981
s1 was fucking trash
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>>15362980
Do you believe in Santa too?
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>>15362783
I don't care if they fart fairy dust! The point is that rebel uprisings have always failed, and I'm sick of mecha anime trying to feed me bullshit that says otherwise! Name ONE resistance movement in history that DIDN'T end in complete failure.

>>15362881
What does it matter? Your whole race deserves to go back to working in my wheat fields...Boy.
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>>15362984
Yeah but it was enjoyable. But S2. Jesus, whats beyond trash?
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>>15363005
G-Reco.
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>>15363005
Zeta
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>>15363010
>>15363016
Okada?! Is that you?!
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>>15362995
did you believe mcgillis could beat gaelio? :^)
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>>15363010
>>15363016
>b-but atleast its not as bad as _____
AHAHAHAHA
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>no one has made webms of the fight yet

I thought this was your moment to shine Galifags

That and I need to tell what happened in that fight
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The gundam wikia says 51 episodes yet everyone says 50?
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>>15362939
It seems like McGillis life got a lot better before IBO.

He had been able to avoid Iznario for a long time and he always had his best friend around.

but then again he said that was making him lose his goal and what drove him to betray Gaelio was lagely fear of complacency.
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>>15362856
>mentions nothing about wing guns
>thruster wings
>electromagnetic cannon is built into each of the wing-like thrusters
Yeah, yeah it does.
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>>15362494
To carry Mika around, obviously
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CHOCOFAGS BTFO
GALIFAGS VINDICATED
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>>15362947
Rustal basically told monkey " go die for me " this episode. Seems to have caught galis attention. This was after rustal confirmed he's a piece of shit to monkey.
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>>15363067
Do you think however shat this felt any ounce of embarassment?
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>>15363039
they'll just be used to shitpost about QUALITY
so hurry up anons
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>>15362949
The plot armor trinity.

I dear you bring me a series where 3 fuckers survived based on asspulls for 10 episodes straight.

TELL ME ANOTHER SHOW FUCK.
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>>15363039

There were some in the previous threads.

It isn't our fault you're slow with the episode or don't have all day to waste not posting on /m/ with us.
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>>15363079
they managed to keep it up throught the entirety of the episode so i'm going to guess no
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>>15363083
Its justice for what they did at the end of S1
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>>15363070
Didn't really feel like either of them would of gotten what they wanted.
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>>15363083
One Piece?
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>>15363083
>>TELL ME ANOTHER SHOW FUCK
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans season 1 :^)
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http://www.strawpoll.me/1261488

gonna just drop that here
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>>15362674
but it was just hush, kill Eugene or Guts. Although it doesn't matter because they are all about to get btfo in the last episode
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>>15363085
>Just stands there taking the stab like a champ
Why he stayed static for so long? if anything Gali was the one stuned after losing its arm, but NOOOO SOMEHOW HE SUDDENLY GETS THE ABILITY TO NOT LOSE ANY PERFOMANCE AND STAB AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT THE FASTEST MECHA IN THE SHOW.

Jesus, fuck this shit man.
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>>15363083
Shino IBO S1
Lafter IBO S1
Azee IBO S1
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>>15363091
the only person in this show who's received what he wanted is Rustal.
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>>15363098
IBO really deserves more votes
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>>15363085
It pisses me off how gaelio's hand and then his ms reaching for the drill is shot from the opposite direction to how he's shown in the rest of the fight. Its just confusing especially when mcgillis reaction are from the same angle. This basic storyboarding shit that theyre getting wrong, its worse than the crude animation
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>>15362381
>tfw gaelio was char all along

i hope he kills rustal and helps tekkaden
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>>15363101
gali is being controlled by super ein
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>>15362861
Its original pilot was basically master asia or domon kashu, no need for a bunch of weapons or flashy gimmick
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>>15363101

The shield arm was thrown at Bael's right wing. In the brief shot of the KV impaling Bael's cockpit, you see the wing is busted/gone completely. McGillis probably couldn't boost away or was stunned by Gaelio getting the sudden advantage.

He probably thought he had the momentary advantage snapping the drill knee off.
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>>15363107
Nothing?
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>>15363056
I wouldn't say he was really able to avoid Iznario considering Iznario still had plenty of control over his life, like arranging his and Almiria's marriage. Plus Iznario keeping the fact that McGillis isn't blood related a secret is a good way to keep McGillis in line.
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>>15362949

The salt is exquisite.
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Any finale that doesn't end in Rustal winning is an asspull.

I mean really, has Rustal lost AT ALL this whole season??
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>>15363099
hush actually meant something to mika albeit he didnt show it, there where moments in the show throughout which showed mika having some emotions towards hush, neither guts or eugene had what mika and hush had. How did you not realise that? its such an obvious thing in shows, a lil slow mate?
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>>15363142
>who's iron mask anyways?
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>>15363142
yeah I really liked the design
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>>15363142
>bullet hits the edge
So Macky is basically a newtype right? The AV organ gives people extrasensory abilities.

Did Macky also have it? It sounded like he only got it partially or something but I guess he might also have the AV organ.
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>>15363148
I haven't watched IBO since episode 27 fag, I'm only here to see how the shit show turns out
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>>15363133
>Plus Iznario keeping the fact that McGillis isn't blood related a secret is a good way to keep McGillis in line
Holy shit. Didn't think of that.
Fucking hell, he should have just killed the guy.
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>>15363085
>knee drill activates
>???
>close up of someone's hand

What happened there?
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>>15363133
He never had to go back to the house during the show and he just stayed at the Bauduin's mansion.

Iznario had a new boy for that anyways.

I don't think Iznario wanted Carta to know about what he did to McGillis.
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>>15363160
then why the fuck did you decide to respond to me if you didnt know shit. Get the fuck out of general shitposter.
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>>15363142

Vidar mask is simple yet very unique.

Love how we get a shot of the inside of the mask this week.
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>>15363147
Rustal losing is still quite easy to do. Gaelio continuing McGillis' work and actually rooting out the corruption would be pretty safe. It'd just end up with McGillis and Iok leading Gjallarhorn during that period. Gaelio never served Rustal for his philosophy, but for revenge.
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>>15363176
Gaelio betraying Rustal wouldn't make sense at this point.

It'd make more sense for Rustal to simply step down after seeing Gaelio's victory against McGillis so that Gaelio can take over.

It'd be a very simple victory that doesn't require any nonsensical betrayals at the last moment.
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>>15363184
Didn't say he would betray Rustal, just reform Gjallarhorn. Gaelio would end up doing it mostly through policy rather than force, though.
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>>15363005
(you)
s2 is good and you just like bad shows like s1
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Just wanted to point, that McGillis may not be dead after the last episode. They made him too much of an character to die of just yet, probably they're gonna get him as a brain to autism-vagina system?
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>>15363005
Yeah, S1 felt like a good show that wanted the viewer watching the show, with a lot of space opera. S2 feels like "hey, It's gay naked shit guys in space, and not to make it too gay, there's a fucking char with his loli"
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>>15363196

He's been around for 49 episodes, I think death has been on the table for a while now.
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>>15363196
his eyes looked deader than dead at the end
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>>15363166
He couldn't himself the only time we saw them in the same room McGillis froze up a bit and Gaelio did all the talking.

It also doesn't seem like he could talk about it, he could barely open up to Gaelio.
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I can't believe Choco is dead.

I fucking can't believe it.

He had Bael, he fucking took on Rustal's entire fleet solo.

He was even overwhelming Gali in Kimaris.

What the fuck happened?

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED? HOW CAN ANYONE LEGITIMATELY EXPLAIN THIS.

I AM FUCKING MAD RIGHT NOW.
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>>15363264
Choco was retarded

there is no need to be upset

it was inevitable
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For everyone who was here before IBO aired, when everyone was saying how Okada's name meant trouble, and who didn't believe, how do you feel now?
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>>15363133
>Plus Iznario keeping the fact that McGillis isn't blood related a secret is a good way to keep McGillis in line.
Iznario would've had to admit to knowingly choosing an heir with no blood relation and lying about it for like twenty years. It still would've helped a little but it wouldn't have been a threat he could've thrown around lightly.

>>15363184
>Gaelio betraying Rustal wouldn't make sense at this point.
It's possible he disagrees enough with what Rustal is doing to want to do something now rather than let him massacre Tekkadan and use them as scapegoats. I'm not saying he will but after the scene where he and Julietta hear that conversation with Nobliss, I think there's a chance. I also don't think there's been any indication that Rustal plans on stepping down immediately and Gaelio might believe that Rustal will continue to try and maintain the status quo and stall any significant reform until he retires, which could be years.

It's also possible Rustal's planning on doing something unnecessarily awful next episode to wipe out Tekkadan and that's why he does it.
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>>15363227
Yeah in this scene he never even looked at him the entire time.

He's better with Iznario in the S1 finale, but still doesn't even look at him for most of the conversation. It's depressing as fuck with everything that happened.
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>>15363264
Reality
A manchild is not fit for leadership
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>>15363094
Redline; it's on Netflix. Basically Wacky Races with some damn good animation.
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>>15363264
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>>15363264
He was destined to lose from the very beginning you pedophile apologist
He's a Char
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>>15363264
He was broken and alone in the beginning of the fight, became increasingly delusional until he talked to Gali and died in regret.
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I liked as Macgills died believing in a victory but never falling in dispear as Iznario sayed to him at end of S1.
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>>15363296
>He's a Char

THEN HOW THE FUCK DOES A GARMA CLONE BEAT HIM?
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>>15363264
Hey he was doing pretty well for himself until he ran headfirst into the plot armor wall
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>yfw Galileo "single"-handedly BTFO the majority of people in these threads and caused them to hate the show they were once defending against shitposting
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>>15363313
2v1
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>>15363313
>THEN HOW THE FUCK DOES A GARMA CLONE BEAT HIM?
Because IBO doesn't follow the formula and that's makes it the best GumDumb of all time :^)
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>>15363264
Choco is just another tragic hero that was created by the general shittyness of IBO mars. The reason why he admired tekkadan was because he saw in them a will to overcome the existing system. He then believed tekkadan's success in s1 justifies his personal philosophy, culminating in his coup. And just like tekkadan, his end is a cruel reminder of the current state of affairs in the iboverse
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>>15363264
you were just too dumb to realize you were watching a tragedy this whole time.
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>>15363309
>but never falling in dispear as Iznario sayed to him at end of S1
He was crying when he died.
Moreover throwing yourself at a whole fleet with a single Gundam is essentially a suicidal move. If that isn't desperate, what is?
It doesn't matter that he did it with gusto, The bravado was most likely just for show, as usual. He's very good at pretending and fooling others and even himself in case you didn't notice.
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>>15363319

Seriously, if this show ends with Rustal, one of the most power-hungry and corrupt warmongers in any Gundam show from the last decade, coming out victorious over Tekkadan and Macky, who through hardship remained true to their just and righteous ideals until the very end, I will seriously lose my shit and do something stupid.

Choco's ideals were the right ones, he wanted to change the system so that the weak wouldn't have to suffer anymore, while Rustal takes advantage of everything he can and keeps getting away with mass murder just to keep on his position of power.

If this shit ends with the corrupt winning over the just, I don't know, man. I just don't know.

Fuck you, Okada. If I wanted a real life lesson all I needed to do was turn on the TV and watch the news these days.
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>>15363264
Are you literally shaking? Can you not even right now?
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>>15363319
>Galileo
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>>15363294
>>15363319
>>15363351

FUCK OFF, OBNOXIOUS GAELIOFAGGOT

I WILL FIND YOU AND SHANK YOU
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>>15363349

Didn't Macky only desire power like the very people he claimed to despise?
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>>15363264
McGillis was like Tekkadan, he wanted to reform the setting and eliminate injustice.

But as the IBO universe proves, the status quo is God.

All who resist shall die ignoble deaths.

Rustal will hang McGillis's broken corpse as an example.

>What have we learned, children?
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>>15363349
manchild should have come up with an actual plan beyong "muh baeru". the fucking idiot thought his superiors would roll over because he stole a gundam that some fuckstick piloted 300 years ago, why would anyone care?
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>>15363349
>if this show does something creative that carries a message I don't want to believe and fits in perfectly with the themes of the show I will cry like a baby
t. shonenshitter
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The Rustal Elite troops will be graze with pseudo AV system?
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>>15363174
indeed
i liked that
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>>15363174
that was pretty neat to see the interior, looked comfy
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>>15363271
how so?
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>>15362392
Even the kids talks how he is bad piloting MS.
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>>15363356
Yeah but he got fucked up the ass by a pedophile so it's fine
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>>15363359
>McGillis was like Tekkadan, he wanted to reform the setting and eliminate injustice.

Tekkadan didn't care, they just wanted to take care of themselves.

Not that it's a bad thing
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>>15363359
>What have we learned, children?
We're all fucked if we're not born into nobility
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>>15363382
this, they were fucking mercs they didn't give a fuck
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>>15363387
QUALITY WRITING, OKADA.

FUCKING AMAZING TOP QUALITY WRITING RIGHT HERE.
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>>15363371
it had a jack that connected into galis mecha chin guard
goes gali have a internal power supply?
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>>15363387
tough shit loser
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>>15363382
Well, they did want better lives for themselves rather than live as space rats.

But welp, now they're going to die as space rats. In the end, they were foolish children.
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>>15363359

Meat > Chocolate
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>>15363401
who are you related to?

THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND!?!?!
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>>15363355
Look man, everytime you call me out for samefagging you can't even seem to manage to give me a single (you). That's like the third time in a row.
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>>15363355
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>>15363401
YOUR BLOOD IS THE SAME COLOR AS EVERYONE ELSE, FAGGOT.

YOU'LL BLEED, DIE AND ROOT DEEP IN DIRTY JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER POOR MAN ON THIS EARTH AFTER I FUCKING SHANK YOU IN THE STOMACH.
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>>15363399
A microphone in the mask is more likely. His voice under the mask was autotuned.
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>>15363349
>be delusional
>have shit plan
>fails
Oh wow I sure didn't see that one coming.
You think happy thoughts win wars you fucking hippy? Your innocent boi mcgrill dindunuffim fareed was a power hungry plotter too, imagine that.
Also
>waaaah this cartoon doesn't go the way I want it to I just don't know anymore literally shaking can't even
Loving every laugh.
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>>15362520
>So busy being smug that you can't even get the entry level Calamity joke
So this is what its like to be among the Earth-born elite
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>>15363429
calm down autismo, I don't have a good life and i'm not royalty. but the sooner you realize the world doesn't owe you anything and there will always be those above and beneath you the better. fucking idiot
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>>15363359
>What have we learned, children?

Stay in school, kids!
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>>15363431
good call
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>>15363442
>the sooner you realize the world doesn't owe you anything and there will always be those above and beneath you the better.

Then how do you beat the corrupted system?

If there is no hope left at the end. What then?
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>>15363264
>muh bael
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>>15363351
IBO has a very LOGTH feeling to it, with meaningless deaths, and unintended gayness + cheap plot devices/"plot armours".
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>>15362591
>It doesn't matter how smart you are at using the terrain to your advantage
It does. You're a retard who thinks this retarded show actually had a point.
>>
People are saying IBO is a gritty reality check anime when Gaelio beat Mcgillis with the power of friendship.
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>>15362427
>>15362451
>>15362497
>>15362533
>>15362845
>Pointing out the fact that IBO lacks consistency
>S-s-s-s-stop complaining

Hey remember how in 00 where the Gundams were unbeatable due to the technological gap between them and everyone else and as the show goes on the armies started working together until they were actually able to stand toe to toe with them? Whereas in IBO one side will just win or lose depending on the most convenient situation.
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>>15363359
Have a plan to accomplish your goals rather than going after every opportunity to gain power, and always stay true to your friends.
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>>15363461
Unfortunately IBO is going to attract a lot of fans who think that its a 'mature gritty and realistic' anime because its heading to what appears to be a kill em all/downer ending.
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>>15363461
It's actually worse since he beat him with literal PLOT ARMOR.
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>>15363461
i thought he killed him with a huge drill bit
>>
I thought Gali and Macky's last moments together were touching
To think this wouldn't have ended like this if Macky wasn't an autistic chunni and just trusted his friends or at least trusted Gali
They could've did it together as bros + their cumrag Carta
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>>15363462
00 is a completely different situation from IBO.
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>>15363264

He lent a big helping hand in creating his own killer. He gave Gaelio the motivation to come back from the grave to murder him, he even gave his subordinate the technology to push into AV. And it all backfired on him slowly.

And all of it could have been prevented if he had just had just checked for Gaelio's body at the end of the last season.
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>>15363461
He beat him with a special system that gave him the same advantages Mika had, but without fucking up his buddy.

Ein is dead, it's just his brain.
>>
new mainline UC series when
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>>15363488
PD is the new UC
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>>15363488
Calamity War series when
>>
In the end, I can say all the frustration and heartache of IBO and the futility of character's lives is a bitter yet poignant taste in the mouth.

I prefer this burn and heartache compared to a lot of tripe, and moreso than that steaming shitpile called Shadows of Zeon on /qst/

Yeah, that shit powerfantasy quest is shit.
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>>15363488

In June. Or July.
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>>15362845
>m
You need to go back
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>>15363485
>letting being just a brain stop you from having a rich and fulfilling life in science fiction
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>>15363485
For me if the brain works then the guy isn't dead.
Not to mention it would make no sense for Gaelio to talk to him or for the support system to react to Gaelio's pleas if he were dead.
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>>15363496
what's PD?
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>>15363516
It's not even his brain, just an artificial copy of it with none of his personality.
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>>15363478
>Grow up ur entire life getting raped and beaten
>Concoct plan that would fuck over your BF's family and kill your childhood friend's dad
>Implying anyone's first instinct would be to reveal said plans as opposed to trying to chat it
Nobody bitched when char sent garma to his death, yet here we are
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>>15362927
Its more like Space Africa, considering how much their economy depends on exporting natural resources (rare earth metal in Africa, half-metal for Mars)
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>>15363522
Post-Disaster, the IBO timeline.

>>15363516
Agreed, there's definitely some kind of consciousness there; maybe not a fully formed one, but something for Gaelio to react to.
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>>15363525

I think it's actually his brain, or at least parts of it, because Talker said parts of his brain or the remains were used.
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>>15363537
Might be mis-remembering the scene, then.
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>Ride will likely live to the end

Fuck this show.
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>>15363461

>"This is not the power you think it is! Ein, i'm counting on you! Make him understand. This battle in which i am not alone!"

Makes the scene where McGillis comments to Todou that freedom is solitary and power a lonely thing a joke indeed.
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>>15363485
He is a brain but the narrative was pushing that Gaelio was fighting with his friend and because of that he was stronger and could beat Mcdumb.
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>>15362975
>maintain order
Their "order" is pretty shitty for the vast majority of people in IBO's world.
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>>15363555
Is it?

Far as we've been shown, the only people who have it bad are some Dort industrial workers and the Martians.
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>>15363525
>just an artificial copy of it with none of his personality
Source: your anus.
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>>15363555

But it's not. We only see how bad it is for slum faggots and child slaves in the hellhole of Mars. For all we know 90% of the population lives the same life you do now.

And is rule by a largely benevolent aristocracy worse than what McGillis proposes, which is basically some Rules of Nature shit where you're ruled by the Chuuni King and his Yakuza child soldier Martian buttboys and everything in between is for the warlords to divvy up?
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team meat stronk
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>>15363002
American Revolution, French Revolution, Russian Revolution, French Resistance, Vietnam and we're currently dealing with an unending radiance that we helped start with these Islamic fundamentalists in the middle East
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Is there a mobile suit in the franchise that you'd go "Muh Bael" over? I found Choco's devotion to Bael very nice.
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>>15363582
you posted it
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>>15363002

Are you American?

If you answer 'yes', your country as you know it wouldn't even exist without rebellion.
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>>15363462

Convenient? Rustal has an army at least twice as large as the renegade faction. Gaelio has a device that gives him all the bonuses of the AV System without the drawbacks.

How could they NOT win?
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>>15363602

I mean, in fairness, it's implied that Ein or what's left of him is dead, so he may be robbed of that advantage.
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>>15363564
Orga's going to be King of Mars :^)
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>>15363577
Not him but though they did win each of these revolutions led to dictartorship, terrorism, and massive slaughter. It usually takes around 100 years for a country to get back on the track of stability and prosperity after a revolution. Democracy being optional.
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If Mika loses against "A Real Human Bean" Juli, how do you think it'll happen?
>>15363582
I'm a sucker for "muh shiny gold suits" and would be an autistic chunni for them
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>>15363602
>Rustal has an army at least twice as large as the renegade faction.
And?
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I think the best part about ChocolateMan kicking the bucket is that I don't think he seriously considered that he would lose.
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>>15363624

That "Me? Losing to Gaelio?" shit he pulled proved it. It also showed what a delusional and arrogant shit he always was.
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>>15363621

And he's sending down even MORE guys. He'll win through sheer attrition.

That's how wars goes. The side with the overwhelming advantage wins, because how could they not?
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>MUH UNICORN
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>>15363602
>Rustal's force is bigger
We've known that Arianrhod is the #1 fleet of Gjallarhorn since season one

>Gaelio's AV has no drawbacks
It's pretty clear that neither Gali nor McGillis activated their super-mode; McGillis, based on his talk with Mika, doesn't know how, and Gaelio would've schooled the shit out of him if he had activated his. Without kicking off the limiter, the benefits of AV-EIN don't really come into play. Also, for what it's worth, McGillis' own improved AV might offer similar benefits without the need to offload the cognitive demands of the AV system onto a third party.

Actually, on the points of McGillis' AV experiments, how does everyone feel about the "special troops" comment made at the end of this episode? Did Rustal forcefully Graze-Ein the captured McGillis loyalists and turn them into monsters? Are they his special troops? I'm curious about how special they could be.
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>>15363635
And it wasn't even on some "slightly paralyzed hand" bullshit like before. He just got beat, straight up, fair and square.

In the end, it was Macky that was the true space rat.
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>>15363359
McGillis was like Kudelia except old men took advantage of them in very different ways.
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>>15363551
Where did all that blood come from anyway?
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>>15363644

I think the point of AV Ein is that Gaelio's limiter is off ALL the time. Mika overclocking Barbatos has drawbacks, but the Kimaris is constantly in that state.
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I would give (you)s to some people in this thread but I am afraid that they might actually think they've got it all figured out and do some stupid shit in real life to "fight the corrupted system"
>breaking news: 4chan user attempts to start fire at local police station after watching anime
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>>15363657
It just appears from fighting like Bloodborne.
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>>15363636
>The side with the overwhelming advantage wins,
Yep worked swimming for Titans, Zanscare, ALAWS and virtually every other villain faction in Gundam outside the Vegans who were actually undermanned.
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>>15363660
This.
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>>15363661

This anime teaches the important leason that those who fight the system end up dead.
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>Kimaris Vidar is completely fucked
>Julietta and her special forces will kill the rest of Tekkadan
>There's no way Mika can go to space to kill Rustal
I guess this means Gaelio will live. Now all he needs to do is breed with Julieta if she survives
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>>15363657
Probably fluid rather than blood; remember when McGillis stabbed Kimaris last time?
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>>15363602
Don't forget most of McGillis's fleet dipped out on him and Rustal had Dainsleif squad.

>>15363636
He had twice as many men as the renegade faction. Its just Tekkadan now and they are 1/40th the size of his forces not counting the mars branch.

>>15363644
The point of type E was to use super mode. McGillis was just a badass.

The sword bearer had the same reaction to seeing them fight as characters did with Mika vs the mobile armor.
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>MUH RX-78-2
>THE FIRST GUNDUMB SO IT'S THE BEST GUNDUMB
>BOW BEFORE YOUR NEW KING THE SHIROI AKUMA
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>>15363664

Technically, the Titans were a rogue faction that eventually fell under Paptimus's control. Zanscare didn't have a single competent leader, and the Victory was a WMD.

A-Laws had a severe tech disadvantage against the uber-powerful CB Gundams.
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>>15363657
Ein fluids? He was dying during the fight.
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>>15363661
Except IBO says fighting the status quo is futile
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>>15363689
Did he burnt out at the end though?

Fucking Ein needed to die.
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>>15363582
Absolutely. You posted the wrong version though. Less is more.
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>>15363673
Kimaris Vidar's actually fine besides the AV Type-E. They can just tack on Bael's arm and send it out with one of Kimaris's other equipment loadouts if Gaelio doesn't mind using it without super mode.

He still has the AV, so he can still use it.
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I think that what's going to happen is that Julieta won't beat Mika(because Mika can't lose), but even though he totals the Julia the Barbatos will end up just as fucked and Mika will die having given himself over to the AV completely. He'll say some sad shit about how they have to go to the final place with Orga etc. and then Tekkadan will be over. Julieta will survive, meaning Team Meat wins a flawless victory. Then they'll do a timeskip and Jewdelia or Atra will be narrating some shit about how the whole conflict did raise dissent throughout Gjallarhorn and Tekkadan's spirit lives on or whatever, there will be a "where are they now" thing with Kudelia being a real politician on her own, Atra raising her babby, Ride being a useless fucking faggot, Takaki hanging out with his sister, life goes on, the end.

Oh and Iok will succeed Rustal as commander of the Arianrhod Fleet.
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>>15363701
That would still take some time and the fight is in progress.

He would have to go down in a reginlaze or the flauros if it was fixed beforehand.
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>>15363690
>>15363671
Yeah I was talking about the few posters raging mad hard over this exact message
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>>15363706
>Iok will succeed Rustal
that's one way to destroy Gjallarhorn
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So when is Mr. Autist going to create a new thread?
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>>15363723
Creat one if you want but get ready for it to get eventually shiposted by him
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>>15363664
Titans weren't that big and the AEUG deployed a WMD and Axis forces to help them. IIRC side material puts both the AEUG and Titans as few dozens of ships in the final battle, combined. They were both tiny organizations.

Zanscare also had a WMD deployed against it in the form of the Keilas Guile.

A-Laws was larger but every single 00 Gundam is a WMD with trans-AM but especially 00R, so it's not really a fair comparison. CB was never at a disadvantage because they maintained a huge tech advantage the entire time.

So unless Tekkadan pull out a literal WMD or Barbatos goes Trans-AM I don't see them winning.
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>>15363723
>>15363727
Here is one. Please Mr. Autistm if you are here don't get mad. I even used Mika in the OP

>>15363749
>>15363749
>>15363749
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>>15363699
>>15363699
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>>15363752
>>15363753
Amazing.
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>>15363752
>>15363753

good job
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>>15363602
The bad guys(Tek and McGliss) won in S1, the good guys win in S2.

Tek and McGliss became villains once they killed Carta and Gaelio.
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>>15363701
why doesn't he just plug in macky and sit on his lap? problem solved
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