Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

>>15337345
First for best couple

>>15337349
>First for best couple

in IBO ? Lol lol lol lol lol
There ain't any.

>>15337349
Good taste anon

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Why does everyone swear Macky leaked Orga's location to Nobliss? Nobliss told Kudelia flat out to drop Tekkaden or else because of her known associations with them. Unless she responded immediately with "yes sir" I'd be watching her office too for Orga and friends to inevitably show up.

Considering Nobliss plays ball at Rustal's level, is it that much of a stretch to believe the old fuck has enough brains to figure that one out without captain chunni giving him a clue?

I started to get some GAINS because of IBO

>>15337410
Aren't they planning to fake their deaths anyways why would Rustal care?

>>15337349
They aren't tho

Kudelia had more chemistry with Orga in one scene than she has had with Mika in the entire series.

>>15337484
How would Rustal know what they're planning?

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>>15337484
I don't think they told Rustal about faking their deaths. And Rustal wants them dead personally - the kind of dead where he'd nuke the planet just to make a statement and make sure - which is why he's traveling to Mars in the first place. He wants to stand in the center of Chryse holding up Orga's bullet-ridden head for the photo op so he can declare himself to have the biggest dick in the system

>>15337637
Okada needs her shitty, forced love triangles.

I honestly like the dynamic of Kudelia and Orga. Orga is reckless and I feel like Kudelia would anchor him down a bit. They'd be cute.

>>15337667
yeeah but Orga's dead and Kudelia likes sperg manlets

oh well

>>15337349
Best couple is Choco/me.

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>>15337677
McGillis/Agnika Kaeru is the true otp of the series.

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>tfw landfrogs probably won't make it to the end

>>15337679
Well they both have yet to show up

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>>15337637
>>>/a/154783851

>No one answers my shitposting in /a/.
>What am I doing wrong?
>I'll post it on /m/

Cry more /a/ shitposter

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>Gali Gali would pilot a mega Shiki

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>>15337349
>Couple
Well that’s a way to put it, if you enjoy being a third well...

Do we know if IBO has 1 or 2 episodes left? Any summaries? I just finally caught up.

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>>15337758
Two episodes left, not sure if there is any summary for the last two

>>15337682
>>tfw landfrogs probably won't make it to the end
Chadman probably will, with a shot in the shoulder he's going to be as worthwhile as Derma in his Frog, so unless they are REALLY hurting for meatshields...

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I will buy this

>>15337868
Will it have the preview theme? Season two's is up there with Votoms and Victory in terms of how much I like it.

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Mika pulling this stunt in the last episode

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Only two episodes left and i still don't know what will be the final battle. Will be be a Mika vs Gaelio? Or maybe Mika will just die against the whole army of Rustal

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>>15337903
Mika decided to give up his arm and leg for enough power against a mobile armor. He's going to sacrifice the rest of his normality to unleash Barbatos' full might and end everything in his way to killing Rustal, from mobile suits to ships. Search your heart, you know this to be true.

>>15337868
release when?

Post musclemacky piloting bael in the nude

>>15337920
9 days

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>>15337667
>Kudelia would anchor him down a bit
Because anchoring Orga down worked so well for Merribit

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>>15337924
as you wish
>All the time he spent hitting the gym to fit in with the rest of the shirtless Orphans was for nothing.
Why is being Macky pure suffering?

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>>15337964
It's satisfying how posh orphan is now treated as comic relief

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>>15337964
Yeah seeing McGillis disappointment in Tekkadan was sad, the guy really did admired them

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>>15337349
>First for best couple

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>>15337974
His master basically getting Bael so that he can live out his chuuni RPing fantasies as Agnika Kaeru makes the bastard the most lovable guy in the series.

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>>15337984
that dissapointed look he had actually got me a little.

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>>15337954
Yeah

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>>15337994
McGillis learning the true about Tekkadan is similar to a child learning Santa is not real

>>15338004
Most stable relationship in the series. Shino/Yamagi would have beaten them though.

>>15338004
I don't blame her pops is pretty based.

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Just now watching 48. And again, I'm just overwhelmed by charisma, determination and inspiration of our protagonist.

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>>15338005
I know and it breaks my heart, I just wanted the chuuni and the manlet to be friends and go full calamity war on rustal, but that will probably be just a pipe dream.
especially since they will both die the next 2 episodes.

>>15337994
So did he forgot about Almiria?

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>>15338020
If he weren't so autistic this would have hurt him

>>15337984
He was expecting them to act like the friends he betrayed

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>>15338030
His waifu is always on his mind she is even one of the reasons why he is fighting, he is just sad the guys he admired weren't as cool as he thought they were.

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>>15337702
Well he's not wrong, Kudelia and Mitra literally generated negative space.

It's worse than Alisha and Sorey from ToZ.

>>15337989
>chuuni delusion/manchild
>/fit/ and /fa/ as fuck
>handsome
>lolicon
>always carries around chocolate

Literally our guy. He's like the Gundam version of Ryan Gosling from Drive.

>>15337984
It kind of was sad wasnt it I was surprised at how emotional the fight was

>>15338040
Is McGillis greatness a pure accident of the writer or was it planned ?
He's genuily one of the best Char, which is surprising considering how mediocre the rest of the characters are.

>>15338025
I think it worse when Mika must cuts him off to tell him he talks to much it hurt him.. he idolized the shit out of Mika he's a fucking idiot but

>>15337994
Same when he said "Farewell Tekkadan" they made him look more like his child counterpart. A boy with a dream. Crushed

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>>15338061
yeah the fact that he called out to the manlet one last time before his suicide run against Rustal just to get BTFO by him was kinda sad eventhough he kinda deserved it after betraying his previous friends.

>>15338060
I dunno how, but they somehow pulled it off
I don't want to see him die.

>>15338076
He tried to have the same type of conversations he had with Gaelio with Mika.

He tried to get Tekkadan to keep on fighting out of pride like Carta.

>>15338060
I think he was always supposed to have problems socially. and he did have the gundam hero worship.

Him being built up as someone who could do anything in S1 and being a joke in S2 not so much.

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>>15338105
Season 1 is thinking of McGillis as a Lelouch-like mastermind revolutionary with the ultimate plan.

Season 2 is realizing he is just a fanfic obsessed otaku Gundam nerd who still believes in Santa.

Never saw it coming, literally one of the most entertaining things to ever happen in this franchise.

>Introduction to Reginlaze, Geirail or Julia wasn't it being mistaken for a Graze

>>15337964
>>15337974
>>15337984
>Choco talks to Mika
>Mika: "Orga; Orga; Orga"
>Choco: Well they are not as chuuni as me"
>Just fly away with the Bael

I swear i laughed fucking HARD.

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Godspeed Fareed

>>15337702
not me

These McGillis and Mika haters are becoming increasingly unbearable and bland, especially the Chuuni shitposter from /a/.

>>15338143
All I see is love

I don't see how McGillis is a comic relief.

I see him as a failure. Is that the funny part?

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>>15338143
but anon him being a chuuni is what makes him so great and we love him for it.

>>15338012
>The little gay boy and the aggressively hetero fop who wasn't aware of his extremely obvious crush because he thought of him like a little brother for years
That is not a recipe for stability.

i wonder how that "daily reminder" guy feels now that orga being dead btfo his entire theory

>>15337984
He's never betrayed anyone not even once.

>>15338143
>McGillis haters
>/a/
Must be rare, most shit I see referring to him is liking his antics.
>>15338137
Godspeed.
>>15338146
Partly the reason you can say.

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>>15337349

>couple

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Shame that best boy died a virgin

>>15338146
His interactions with others especially Mika and Almiria have been pretty funny.

His obsession with AK and how it led to his failure is fun too.

>>15338162
He probably doesn't care.

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>>15338157
Why not? The moment he does learn about it, Shino immediately acts on it.

Yamagi is head over the hell in love with Shino and they have know each other for years.

>>15338157
You guys are acting like they are literal brothers, while the issue is more like Shino never consider the could be that kind of relationship between "family" and never once thought about romance.

But the watcher and everyone else in the show know that kind of relationship can bloom with family, just look at the Turbines or Atra/Kudelia/Mika.

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>>15338060
>>15338076
>>15338105
>>15338105
>>15338130
>Is McGillis greatness a pure accident of the writer or was it planned ?

If you are wondering if Mcgillis was meant to be an idiot manchild since the beginning then yeah he was. Just see that episode where Gaelio's father wants to punish him for trying to kill Gaelio and Macky simply says that now that he has Bael it doesn't matter. He IS and WAS always meant to be autistic.

>>15338223
That's what makes him.even more endearing his autism had made him near invincible .. he played everyone like a fucking fiddle last season .. Mika always talks about how he's able to keep up with him and shit

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I'am not ready to see him go yet next episode, same with Gaelio. Dammit, seeing two characters you like fighting to the death hurts a little. You just can't win

>>15338253
Neither can they

Gali is broken and McGillis discovered that he can't make new friends.

I'm very convinced the Shino and Imagay shippers are worse than any Galifags

>>15338273
Mika will probably put the victor out of his misery.

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Haven't kept up with the series, has Mika been Kamille'd yet?

>>15338301
Orga just died(?).

So next episode?

He was always a bit of a vegetable.

>Gaylio kills choco or they kill each other
>mika dies soloing whatever is left

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>>15338253
I'm so little invested in both Makugirisu and Gali at this point that I wish they belonged to some other series. Something pompous and bishounesque. Throw them in Wing for all I care.

>>15338253
>>15338273
Both of them will probably die next episode. Almaria is probably damaged for life after all this.

>>15338316
There would be no show without them.

>>15338273
he got partly kamilled at the midseason break

we expect him to get deaded in 2 weeks

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Will it job?

>>15338020

do you people think mika is the protagonist because he has the gundam despite having no impact on the story otherwise?

>>15338341
show me an gundam protagonist that isn't piloting the children's toy commercial advertisement suit in any of the other gundams.

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>>15338349

>>15338335
Absolutely.

>>15338349

What happens in any other gundam is irrelevant , mika is still not the protagonist by literary definition

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Gaelio better impregnate this monkey before dying

>>15337919

I kinda want McGillis to kill Rustal in one last blaze of glory

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Bael looks good from the back, just like McGillis.

>>15338349
>>15338352
>>15338358


the majority of this seasons focus has been on orga. Mika and the other pilots are almost nonexistant outside of when a fight occurs

>>15338361
Assuming Gaelio doesn't do that on McGillis first, at least.

>>15338352
is the protagonist allowed to die before the show ends?

i actually don't know the answer to this.

>>15338358
then who is the protagonist?

>>15338365
thats who i thought it was, but then he died with two more episodes to go.

>>15338366

I don't think McGillis cares about killing Gaelio at this point, so I could see McGillis in their "final battle" just dodging Gaelio well enough to finish Rustal, so that even if Gaelio finally catches up and kills McGillis, McGillis himself still won in the end.

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>>15338363
is this fecal matter of a sentence generated by an actual person

>>15338372
Killing Rustal doesn't really accomplish much for McGillis at this point, especially if he dies right after killing him.

>>15337410
Don't bother, everyone in this thread watched IBO until the end, in other words, they're all dumbasses.

>>15338326
Bummer....I really wanted more Gali x Monkey

>>15338359
In the Kimaris Vidar so Ein can watch too?

>>15338223

He's more of just a naive idealist, rather than an autist.

He thought that Bael would be enough to justify his authority, but neglected important loose ends because he assumed too much of the Council. When it became clear that Gaelio was most likely alive, instead of trying to find a way to kill or capture him, he just sped up his plan because he thought the old crones on the council would abide by the "tradition," of Agnika Kaieru. However, it turned out that only young reactionaries like himself give a damn about Agnika Kaieru because their lives were so shitty they found solace in the tales of a great hero and wanted to emulate him. These old fucks who lived a life of luxury off Gjallarhorn's exploitation don't give a fuck about Agnika Kaieru and will just rationalize the current order as Rustal did by saying "well, that was then, this is now, and Gjallarhorn isn't just Agnika". Like the old guy explained to him, while technically the rule is that the one who pilots Bael has absolute authority, this was a rule that was put in place during an era when absolute rule of that kind was necessary to meet an existential threat against humanity. Had Gaelio not been alive and been used as a trump card by Rustal because of plot armor, McGillis would have probably had an easier time putting down dissenters, but even then there probably would have been plenty who would dissent because not everyone is a reactionary fundamentalist like himself and some people like Rustal have investments in the present system.

He also was naive in thinking that Tekkadan was a group of people whom he could direct towards his own ambitions and he placed far too much confidence in them when really at the end of the day, they're just a bunch of dumb violent hobos who don't share his noble ideals or bearing.

>>15338378
Gaelio pls, buy yourself a sense of humor.

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>Next episode Gaelio will be close to dying until Julieta comes and saves him.
Screencap this

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>>15338369
>is the protagonist allowed to die before the show ends?
[muffled vestige playing in distance]

>>15338424
Inb4 she says she just found him by pure coincidence

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>Six days until chuuni chocofags are btfo forever

I think it's humorous how a majority are looking at IBO as a typical gundam story structure when in fact it's a mafia/yakuza movie structure. I really didn't want to like IBO but damn it i just might.

>>15338432
Hard considering they will be fighting in front of the main ship

>>15338414
>However, it turned out that only young reactionaries like himself give a damn about Agnika Kaieru because their lives were so shitty they found solace in the tales of a great hero and wanted to emulate him.

That was just McGillis. Most of the young officers would have been pretty well off.

>These old fucks who lived a life of luxury off Gjallarhorn's exploitation don't give a fuck about Agnika Kaieru and will just rationalize the current order as Rustal did by saying "well, that was then, this is now, and Gjallarhorn isn't just Agnika". Like the old guy explained to him, while technically the rule is that the one who pilots Bael has absolute authority, this was a rule that was put in place during an era when absolute rule of that kind was necessary to meet an existential threat against humanity.

Nobody gave a fuck because he had been dead for 300 years and there isn't an army of angry bird terminators trying to kill everyone..

>>15338437
This is no Ryu no Gotoku though, let alone Yakuza Papers.

>>15338393

It would leave Gjallarhorn in a serious state of disarray with no head of the Fareed, Elion and Issue families and would destroy Rustal's ultimate plan of restoring confidence in Gjallarhorn. the problem with Rustal's plan is that it relies too much on him just making a clean sweep of the rebels, but even if he destroys the rebels, if the Arianhod fleet wastes too many resources or loses its leader during the battle, then that entire plan goes to shit, Gjallarhorn loses another important leader, people see that Gjallarhorn struggles to even take out a small group of rebels with a massive fleet and McGillis ends up a martyr. And Gaelio has no one and nothing left to fight for.

>>15338424
As in she carries his gundam back to ship save or helping him out when he is in a pinchee?

>>15338441
>That was just McGillis. Most of the young officers would have been pretty well off.

It's implied that McGillis was popular amon young officers in particular, especially those from the colonies who joined Gjallarhorn in hopes of gaining greater respect only to be treated like dirt cause they were neither of noble blood nor true earthlings.

>>15338167
>Must be rare, most shit I see referring to him is liking his antics.

>>>/a/154772767 >>>/a/154773097 >>>/a/154774257 >>>/a/154772749.154780910 >>>/a/154784494 >>>/a/154788320 >>>/a/154794997 >>>/a/154814005 >>>/a/154819656

What's sad is that it's insanely easy to identify them just by their eyes.

/a/doesn't answer their shitposts or when >>>/a/154773197 >>>/a/154773271 >>>/a/154773354
/m/ is the only place that continues to feed it

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>>15338341
>>15338352
>>15338358
>>15338365
>>15338369
>>15338428

Wow, fantastic autism
hey retarded shitposter, are you an attention seeker?

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>>15338401
>when the stupidity of the cast projects onto the audience

>>15338464
>especially those from the colonies who joined Gjallarhorn in hopes of gaining greater respect only to be treated like dirt cause they were neither of noble blood nor true earthlings.

It was never really implied he had a large following of officers from the colonies, there was just that one guy that got drilled.

Rustal had one of his favored subordinates with no background and so did Gali. Neither of them were known for being progressive.

>>15338414
>Had Gaelio not been alive and been used as a trump card by Rustal
Used as a trump card? Galigali stood around for so long Rustal probably got more mileage out of using him as a christmas tree

>>15338467
Still miniscule and two's shitting on show "ruining" him and the characters and plot in general.
You're blowing it up man more than it really is.
>>15338424
>implying
Need to show land legs somehow and remove any extra meatshields for Rustal when Mika goes Nuclear, might as well bail out Iok in the middle of the last stand.

>>15338456
So what Arianhrod gets a new commander and things stay shitty for a longer period of time.

>>15338505
>Iok as commander
Calamity war v2 when?

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Remember when Hush was an ass to Mika?

>>15338510
>Remember when Hush was an ass to Mika?
Hush was a /m/ anon

>>15338502
Gali is the one who pushed McGillis into acting.

Gali walked up to McGillis on mars while looking for Iok and called him out on being an asshole.

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I hope Mika doesn't name his son/daughter Orga.
Its an ugly name

>>15338536
it's a girl

>>15338542
Orga is a girl's name in the first place.

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>>15338414
>He also was naive in thinking that Tekkadan was a group of people whom he could direct towards his own ambitions and he placed far too much confidence in them when really at the end of the day, they're just a bunch of dumb violent hobos who don't share his noble ideals or bearing.
Except Macky grew up similarly to Tekkaden (poor orphan on the streets, used and abused, bodies exploited, etc.) and gained his ambitions from that concept of crawling out of the dirt to take power from those who always 1) had more of it and 2) over you. Macky did so with toppling Iznario, Orga and Tekkaden overthrew their bosses and starting their own company. In both cases, they took the fastest road to more power, more authority. Anything in their way (the "authority and brute force" speech) can and was physically removed. Up until these last few episodes, Macky had Orga eating those same ambitions out of the palm of his hand. Macky/Tekkaden's stories, and respective paths, are supposed to parallel each other.

The difference being, as was alluded to in last week's leaks, is that Orga has friends and was always accumulating power for the sake of his family (be it to protect from poverty and/or danger), whereas Macky was always accumulating power for the sake of himself (if he stood atop the system, then no one possessed power over him).

This has been spelled out and spoonfed, repeatedly, over the course of S2. It's really not that hard.

>>15338536
Kamille

Mika will die and Atra and Kudelia will be the baby's moms.

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So was that Gjallerhorn's gank squad or did McGillis arrange for it to get Orga out of the way?

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>>15338510
>Hush
The purest

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>>15337974
Choco is too good for this world.

>>15337682

I cannot wait to buy the fuck outta that MS option set.

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>>15338502

The show sort of implies he spent the vast majority of time behind the scenes researching McGillis' movements. It's the reason why he knew where to turn up to confront him when he took off the mask in the end. He wanted to know what McGillis would use to over throw the Seven Star government and he guessed correctly.

He wanted to meet him on equal terms whether McGillis liked it or not.

>>15338548
Olga is, not Orga.

>>15338253
I want to protect that smile.

I'm genuinely surprised at how much I like McGillis as a character. His antics/beliefs/attitude to everything is all weirdly charming/entertaining/sad/endearing. I'm really going to miss him after next week.

>>15338335

Yes, and thank god for it. I was so close to spending money in order to build one. Now that its just going to job and won't even be piloted by its original intended owner makes it less interesting to me than a background suit.

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>>15338502
this

>>15338038
I think he was actually expecting the opposite. Tekkadan and characters like S1 Gaelio actually act remarkably similar, supposedly fighting for some vague ideal (for Tekkadan King of Mars or finding Mika and Orga's place, for Gaelio, its reforming Gjallajorn) but no one really cares about those goals as long as they get to LARP alongside their friends. McGillis at this point sees himself as a dedicated Revolutionary ready to sacrifice anything for his goals, and from what he sees Tekkadan do and how Tekkadan acts, he thinks that he and Tekkadan have the same mindset, and Orga actively promotes that Tekkadan is this serious mercenary group that is willing to sacrifice and risk everything for their goals. However, Orga and the rest of Tekkadan actually see themselves as family who are risking themselves to make their lives better, they don't really care about any of that other stuff as long as they can stick together. No one really knows that's how Tekkadan operates unless you're Naze who brought them under his wing, or actually work within Tekkadan. While they were always in a state of precariousness from the start, it wasn't until late in this season where Tekkadan actually loses. Before Tekkadan is just riding off of having a bunch of Gundam frames and Mikazuki. So whereas Orga was giving all those rousing speeches about how they were willing to risk it all to achieve their goals, they'd never actually experienced a defeat in battle before, much less the destruction that Rustal dealt a few episodes back. Now that they've experienced their first real loss and McGillis is working within Tekkadan are their true colors realized.

>>15338581

Norbliss is the most likely culprit from his conversation with Rustal. I have to wonder if Rustal ever found out that Norbliss was the one who funded all the various rebel elements or he doesn't care at this point as long as he and Gjallarhorn look good by crushing Tekkadan and Mcgillis

>>15338623
He just doesn't care

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>>15338025
I really wish they could have finished their conversation.

>all these fools thinking it's going to be Chocolate Requiem this week

Oh I am laffing

>>15338623
Rustal probably has Nobliss fund rebellions just so he can crush them and prove to the world that Gjallahorn is the true keepers of the peace.

>>15338253
I feel you brother. I've been waiting for this moment all season and now I can't help but dread it. I just want them to become friends again ;_;

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>>15338623
>>15338581
>>15338630
It was Rustal. Macky is a good boy now

>>15338621
All ideals in IBO are vague and the one who is acting like hie is larping is McGillis.

>>15338414
>reactionary fundamentalist
????

>>15338594
Orga is undistinguishable from Olga in moonrunes. Orga is just an erroneous romaji. Unless Orga exists as a name somewhere, I could be wrong.

>>15338631
>I just want them to become friends again ;_;
I think becoming friends would be too much. You just can't be friends again with the person who try to kill you

>>15338441
>That was just McGillis. Most of the young officers would have been pretty well off.
Based off of what?

>>15338645
There's Orga from Godzilla. But it's probably supposed to be a random space name and not an abbreviation of Organizer G-1 or w/e.

Of course, it could be a reference to Orga from Godzilla considering how incestuous Japanese media can be.

>>15338484
My only complaint is about the shitposter who uses the Chuuni meme.

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>>15338647
>you just can't be friends again with the person who try to kill you
According to Kishimoto, not only is that possible, but you also have the option to marry that person.
Checkmate atheist.

>>15337410

Fucking thank you. I said this last thread and people kept pushing this fanwank.

>>15338648
They were officers.

>>15338567
Orga is a petit-bourg capitalist, who will end up repeating the same abuses as his former oppressors as soon as he grows big enough.

McGillis is an entryist Revolutionary who tried to seize the state in order to topple the current corrupt society, using the traditional organs and justifications for the state's power, only to find out that they were only symbols meant to control the weak and the deep state will come after you if you try to dismantle the system.

There's a big difference, and I for one prefer McGillis for trying to change society as a whole rather than attempting to carve up a space where he can be top dog, like Tekkadan was doing

>ChocoChar dont betrayed Tekkadan
>Orga tried
BRAVO OKADA!

so does anything happen in this episode?

>>15338638
In a way, he is LARPing, but McGillis is the only character who is actually completely dedicated to his goals. For however much we wanna shitpost about muh Bael and chuuniGillis, he actually does genuinely want to change his society for the better and is willing to sacrifice anything for that. Tekkadan claims they're fighting for higher goals like muh King of Mars or muh special place, but they just outright said this episode that they don't really care about the goal or destination, as long as they can hangout together as friends.

>>15338678

Hey, retard commie, even if McGillis would have succeeded he would have run into the same problem as all commies: good job, you dismantled the system, now what? Then everyone is living in a more unstable, corrupt, totalitarian shithole than before.

>>15338678
>McGillis is an entryist Revolutionary who tried to seize the state in order to topple the current corrupt society
>
There's a big difference, and I for one prefer McGillis for trying to change society as a whole rather than attempting to carve up a space where he can be top dog, like Tekkadan was doing
Meh, I was never convinced Macky's desire for reform was genuine or anything more than opportunism, riding a wave of dissatisfaction to power. The way I see it, he's doing the exact same thing as Tekkadan,he's trying to become the top dog. They are the same. Only the means are different.

Mika goes total psycho in next episode, and brings out Barbato's full power. Just watch.

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>>15338714
He looks normal in the preview tho

>>15338699
Considering that most revolutions happen in underdeveloped countries, in almost every communist revolution, the country after the Revolution was better off for its people than the country was before. They may not have been able to compete with the USA due to not being able to do the fancy financial shenanigans that give our economy a temporary boom before it eventually crashes every decade or so, but most commie countries achieved a lot considering how far behind they were before

>>15338693
Of course

>>15338718

They have done this "one blood red eye" thing so much that now it just annoys me

>>15338721

Did you know Elian Gonzales doesn't know how to use a cell phone and when they photographed him he said the government doesn't allow him enough bandwidth for him to post it on facebook?

Take your hippie bullshit somewhere else, comrade.

>>15338505

I doubt there is anyone left in Gjallarhorn with the competence of Rustal. McGillis organizing Carta's death left Gjallarhorn in shambles. The Fareed family is shamed because Iznario's exploits revealed the corruption of Gjallarhorn's original policy of political quietism (something Rustal has no more respect for himself) and without McGillis, Fareed has no heir.

This would only leave like four families left. In the end, the only way Gjallarhorn could survive is by basically reducing its power over the outer reaches of space in order to keep its authority within earth sphere or someone from the remaining families doing exactly what McGillis tried to do. Either way, McGillis will have "won" even if he isn't alive to smugly enjoy his victory.

>>15338725
>Elian Gonzales
literally who?

>>15338437
thats why m hates it

>durrrrrrr why are they talking!! I want to see the robots smash together dddddduuuhhh
>mika is le protagonist because he has the gundam!!!

>>15338484
>It was never really implied he had a large following of officers from the colonies, there was just that one guy that got drilled.

Liza and the other revolutionary forces were all pretty young and presumably were much like Isurugi in that they were the minority of those colonists who basically thought like Suzaku from Code Geass that they only had to join Gjallarhorn to change the system from within. Most of the colonists don't join Gjallarhorn except for the minority whom like Ein are halfus and get special opportunity.

>Rustal had one of his favored subordinates with no background and so did Gali

I really don't think Rustal gives a flying shit about Julietta as anything more than another tool.

>>15338721
Not him

This isn't a people's revolt really. It's a military coup. McGillis and his "loyalists", for lack of a better word, are just a small group of military officials who attempted to size power directly from the head of the state (the 7 stars) through non-violent means, though they were prepared to eliminate the stragglers and dissidents among the lower rungs, like the Arianrhod fleet. Coups can be hit or miss, though you can say the same about people's revolutions, otherwise everyone would just revolution into a 1st world country but that's beside the point. My point is that the other anon is right to point out McGillis would still have the same problems because he's just replacing the head and his philosophy of might makes right won't actually help the downtrodden. Not that it even matters at all.

The problems with the IBO world isn't just because of Gjallarhorn and I'd go as far as to say that Gjallarhorn is just an organization that passively benefits from the climate for the most part. Mars itself is full of shady and terrible people and its economy is no way able to compete with Earth's so the inequality will always be present. The only way for Mars to really improve is to somehow come up with a magical way to compete or become more self-sufficient over time.

That said, some parts of Gjallarhorn do nasty things, like the false-flag revolt at Dort. The best thing they could do is actually keep their hands out of Mars and let the people's rage play out but Gjallarhorn's branches, even if minimally, play favorites with the jew mafia and other nasties on Mars.

>>15338723
Julietta had 2 bloody eyes
Pay attention

>>15338739
>Not even a good crime show
>Can't even hook me in with robot fights or good development
>>15338747
You forgot Isurugi I think.

>>15338704

I had my doubts about Macky until that scene with Almiria. And this last episode cemented the idea that what separates Macky and Tekkadan is that Choco-Mac actually has higher ideals he's striving for that go beyond just carving out a comfortable niche for himself. Orga may have been all aboard the "King of Mars" train, but his motivations for becoming King of Mars were somewhat different than the motivations Mack Attack has had for taking over Gjallarhorn. Orga's motivations came across as a bit more selfish, in that he wanted a comfortable life for his family and that's all and really he was the only one in Tekkadan who had any real comprehension of this idea, most of his friends just going along with him cause he was their friend and leader, but they could really have cared less about being King of Mars. McGillis wants to create a better world for his loli and basically be the savior of the downtrodden like Agnika Kaieru. He thought that maybe he could direct Mika's strength towards a greater, more spiritual goal, but this episode he realized that's asking too much of space dogs who only really think of how to get their next meal.

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Macgillis i feel u

>>15338739

You guys are full of shit. I like a good Yakuza story as much as everyone else. IBO is simply boring and badly written.

>>15338732

Here's the current status / potential outcome for the Seven Stars.

Issue: Collapsed from Carta's death and her father is presumed dead
Fareed: Heirless since Mcgillis is basically disowned and Iznario is now outed as gay
Bauduin: Potentially heirless if Gaelio dies and IFF Almiria kills herself if Mcgillis dies
Elion: Could collapse if Rustal dies, while logicially unlikely but it is possible. Depending on the outcome of this mop up the Arianrhod Fleet's reputation might be tarnished as well
Kujan: Schrodinger's Iok (I honestly have no idea if he will live or not)
The other two Literal Whos: Will probably be okay since they are on Earth with Papa Bauduin

Frankly I'm not sure if Gjallarhorn is capable of picking up the pieces afterwards if at least two heads / heirs die

>>15338757

>Not space rats

>>15338437
>>15338739

It has serious pacing problems, stemming from too much talking fluff. Like half the show is just irrelevant and/or repeated talking points and tiny plotlines that have little to no relevance to most of the cast or the larger plotlines at hand. There's some good stuff in it but there clearly isn't enough material to fill out 50 episodes and they're just trying to drag things out to fill allotted time slots.

>>15338766
>Iok survives and becomes the savior of mankind who reforms Gjallarhorn and kills the space Jews and frees Mars's people from the tyranny of interplanetary conglomerates and criminals

>>15338739

Honestly my only beef is how long it took for them to get to earth in S1, if they cut that out they could have used it for a lot more development

>>15338770
>to fill out 50 episodes and they're just trying to drag things out to fill allotted time slots.
I wonder what will they do in season 3/movie/ova.
Mika's kid alone won't be able to move the plot that much

>>15338746
Anon, you're right. I honestly wish there was more Revolution-type stuff like was hinted in Dort arc, but so far in this season there was only Macky to feed my hopes in, even though all he really did was attempt a coup. Honestly hoped for a genuine revolution, hopefully it'll appear in the epilogue inspired by McGillis and disgusted with the entirety of IBO society.

>>15338766

Keep in mind too that the cleaning up of Tekkadan is supposedly a major media event at this point in time in the story. After Tekkadan and Kudelia's actions, all the outer spheres began rising up, and Gjallarhorn has been struggling to keep all these uprisings in check. Everybody is probably watching how this fight turns out and depending on how it goes, they will weigh the cost/benefit of fighting against Gjallarhorn's authority. If Rustal wipes out Tekkadan and kills McGillis easily, no problem. But if it takes days to remove Tekkadan when it should have been a matter of hours, if Rustal dies and the Arianhod is stuck without a strong leader, or if McGillis manages to get away and hide himself in some bunker someplace where he can broadcast his speeches as Gjallarhorn struggles to find him, Gjallarhorn might never recover. Rustal's victory depends on a perfect score.

>>15338773

With this show, I could see them pulling something where in an epilogue, it is Almiria who now is the top dog of Gjallarhorn

>>15338741
>presumably were much like Isurugi in that they were the minority of those colonists

Is there any proof of that? for an organization that hates colonists it sure had a lot of officers from the colonies on earth.

Rustal thanked Gali for retrieving her after the fight and was worried about her when the chaff went off.

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>>15338326
>losing her husband next week
Poor Almiria.

>>15338792
>Is there any proof of that? for an organization that hates colonists it sure had a lot of officers from the colonies on earth.

In the 1st season, it was stated that the only reason Ein was even let into Gjallarhorn was because his dad was a prominent Earthling and even after having the respect of Crank and two heirs to the seven stars, the average officers still talked down to him. I'm guessing it was the same for guys like Isurugi who had very little opportunities in space except to join Gjallarhorn and hope they could change people's chauvinistic attitudes by displaying their merit. The narrative was trying to use Isurugi to tell us about the kinds of people who were attracted to McGillis, so I think it's safe to assume most of the young officers who heeded McGillis' call to arms came from similar circumstances.

>Rustal thanked Gali for retrieving her after the fight and was worried about her when the chaff went off.

Probably because she's useful. it's like thanking someone for saving your prized hunting dog that would cost you thousands to replace. I doubt he has any sentimental feelings for her. The only reason he keep Iok around is because despite his incompetence, he is good at rallying people cause of his father's reputation.

>>15338809
Not arguing that they were treated poorly, but if it was difficult to become an officer as a colonist, then why were there enough of them for a small revolt, especially all stationed in the cushier post.

>Probably because she's useful. it's like thanking someone for saving your prized hunting dog that would cost you thousands to replace. I doubt he has any sentimental feelings for her. The only reason he keep Iok around is because despite his incompetence, he is good at rallying people cause of his father's reputation.

I haven't got that vibe yet, but there really isn't much evidence to go either way.

>>15338775
Makanai will set up his own military group. Mikas child along with ride and maybe chad will be in that military group. They will fight Rustal

>>15337994

I honestly felt like he was shamed. Like they went all this way just to bitch out. Which would be the best choice to live.

>>15338315

Yeah I completely see that coming by this point. Mika will mindless kill all the drones. Macky will go straight for rustal =
Mika vs. Macky.

Looks like IBO will replace 0080 as the lowest point in the franchise.

>>15338819
>Not arguing that they were treated poorly, but if it was difficult to become an officer as a colonist, then why were there enough of them for a small revolt, especially all stationed in the cushier post.

Again, the only colonists who managed to get into Gjallarhorn seem to be mostly those who came from an uppercrust among the colonists, the halfbreeds whose lineage guaranteed them a position in Gjallarhorn but wasn't noble enough to guarantee them the respect of the other officers. And some of them like Isurugi probably worked their asses off twice as hard to get where they were, but always resented the fact that they had to do so just because they weren't lucky enough to be born into the Seven Stars or some family of higher rank. They were high enough that they didn't have to live in squalor like so many others, but were always reminded that there was a ceiling they could probably never reach. At least that's my take.

>I haven't got that vibe yet, but there really isn't much evidence to go either way.

Rustal comes across as just a ruthlessly practical commander who probably doesn't have time for sentimental nonsense. he respects Julieta's talent and Iok's capacity for inspiring loyalty in others despite being a fuck up, but I doubt he would take a bullet for either of them.

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I just realized McGillis is Kudelias male counterpart. Mind fucking blown.

>>15338851
He is the chaos hero and she is the neutral heroine.

>>15338842
>And some of them like Isurugi probably worked their asses off twice as hard to get where they were, but always resented the fact that they had to do so just because they weren't lucky enough to be born into the Seven Stars or some family of higher rank. They were high enough that they didn't have to live in squalor like so many others, but were always reminded that there was a ceiling they could probably never reach. At least that's my take.

Liza hardly gave that impression and the best example we had was Ein, who was stationed on Mars.

>but I doubt he would take a bullet for either of them.
There is a big gap between caring about and taking a bullet for them.

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>>15337386
There was one.
;_;

>>15338766

>Iok living wil mean he bears the brunt of responsibility of failing to die as a martyr and going to exil as Iznario's boy toy and the Teiwaz Gjallarhorn relations going stone cold since Kujan are secret allies with Teiwaz. McMurdo gains power

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>Deuteragonist is died
>/m/ thinks Mikazuki will die
>Statistically, the chance of MC and deuteuragonist dying on the same show is less than one in 1 billion.

Why is /m/ so fucking stupid and proud of that?

>>15338637
It was both.
>Orga leaves
>Choco beats Iok and flies off
>Lands somewhere and as Montag tells Nobliss where Orga went
>Gets Orga killed and a free Mika to abuse

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>>15338757
>And this last episode cemented the idea that what separates Macky and Tekkadan is that Choco-Mac actually has higher ideals he's striving for that go beyond just carving out a comfortable niche for himself
Eh, you actually have a point there. Though then again nothing proves Macky wasn't just trying to bait Mika with a carrot of ideals, the way he did with Gaelio and every other officers who followed him, only to realize that wouldn't work because Mika just doesn't care about ideals. But I suppose the truth is somewhere between those two extremes.
Macky is such a good Char clone, I love that there are many ways to interpret what he's doing. There's also irony of him believing the world doesn't rotate around ideals even though he's probably the one guy who's most intoxicated on them. After all power can also be an ideal, or worse, a mere idea.

>>15338896
Mika will die anon, He is definition of deathflag

>>15338896
>Mikazuki lives and builds a farm with Atra, Kudelia and their children
>The final scene of the ED with Biscuit's hat and all the pictures of Tekkadan is their house
>Bittersweet scenes of Mika trying to be a father despite being a 75% disabled autist
That's what I'd want. He's spent 99% of the series jerking off Orga, so let's get at least one scene of him trying to live his life without him. Make him feel like a human being even if only at the end, don't just throw him into the fire for the sake of an "EPIC" final battle scene that means jack shit because IBO has shit animation.

>>15338896
>The protagonist is at the center of the story, should be making the difficult choices and key decisions, and should be experiencing the consequences of those decisions. The Protagonist can affect the main characters' decisions. The protagonist should be propelling the story forward. If a story contains a subplot, or is a narrative that is made up of several stories, then there may be a character who is interpreted as the protagonist of each subplot or individual story.

Does this sound like Mika to you?

>>15338914
hey, look, its chuuni shitposter and his stupid meme

>>15338920
That specific definition? No. But every other definition I found only specifies that they need to be the primary or principal character, and given that Mika is the one appearing in nearly all advertising, his MS is the poster boy for the series, his fight scenes receive the most time and budgeting, and whether you like it or not he has a great effect on other characters like Choco, Atra, Kudelia, and Orga.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/protagonist

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So what's Orga's Gunpla in Gundam Valhalla?

>>15338928
custom unicorn

>>15338920
>Official sources
Does this sound like reality to you?

>>15338920
I think people are confusing protagonist with main character

>>15338928

Unicorn Shiden

>>15338920
Anyone with an iota of literary sense knows this, if orga had the gundam but never used it this and mika had unicorn wouldnt even be a question

>>15338936

Main Character != Protagonist, you dumb pleb
Go read sherlock holmes

>>15338920
How is mika not the protag?

>>15338851
They'd make some pretty blond babies together.

>>15338827

That's not how you spell G-Reco or Gundam AGE

>>15338928
>So what's Orga's Gunpla in Gundam Valhalla?
Black Gusion with an armor cast off gimmick.
ONLY THE GUSION KUROKERO CAN BECOME A PRINCE AFTER ALL!

>>15338927
>>15338936
>>15338953
Please stop replying to this shitposter, obvious bait is obvious.

>>15338928
Forget Bael. This would have been the perfect original gundam in IBO. Bael definitely reeks of a higher number like the Kimaris

>>15337984
I took it in part to be him lamenting that he can't be like Tekkadan.

>>15338975
you took the bait

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>>15338851

>>15338982

That thing can't even move its fucking head.

>>15338914
yes

>>15337964
Fucking Atlas-levels of ripped.

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Iok best boi

>>15338607
I think every Macky fan is deep down just like Isurugi. They know he's using people but wouldn't mind being used by him because his ideals and intentions are pure.

>>15338931
that would be dope

a unicorn/gm hybrid?

>>15339022

He's pure retard.
The guy literally just wants all the power because he got buttraped and he doesn't want to be buttraped anymore.

>>15338992
This is amazing

Bravo

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>>15339029
>macky is literally butthurt so he wants power
don't make me cut you anon!

>>15339021
>pic

Did Iok get his dick pierced?

who am i supposed to root for in this series? Ive seen 48 episodes and i hate everyone

>>15339032

But it's true.

His motivation is "I got buttraped, the world sucks. If I was King of Gjallarhorn like Agnigger Kaieru no one could buttrape me anymore, and I'd save the world, and be the best ruler ever." The guy is mentally 10 years old.

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>>15338918
I like it.

>Mika and his harem
they will be happy for ever.

Is Okada a paedo or just drama-aware?

>>15339059

She's a bad writer.

>>15339059
Idk but she's kind of cute

IBO will end up with everyone dead.

What's the conclusion to the various character arcs? They all die.

McGillis and Gaelio will kill each other, and a huge asspull will be drawn to allow Mika to kill Julieta and Rustal.

Protagonist is just who the audience is here to see. Almost always the one the story is about and also the one who gets the most focus to further convince the audience he's important.

It's Mika. That's how the show is advertised. You're here because you saw the Gundam and Mika as the pilot and you thought he was the lead guy and the show keeps pushing him in our faces even though he does nothing.

All the nonsense about protagonist and main character being different is new age hokey nonsense and you'll find a million different definitions. It's completely unimportant.

If you honestly believe that there's a difference you're probably a retard who read some blog or textbook by people who've never once been successful in their lives despite pretending to be experts.

>>15338851
>Kudelias male counterpart
That would be S2 Orga, at least in execution

>>15338914
Define "ideals" faggot. Wanting to make society a better place is a bit more concrete than >muh ideals

>>15339059
Gen Urobuchi's huge fanboy

>>15339090

People wanted to be fucked by Okada ? They got their wish.

>>15339110
I should've been more skeptical back when the series was announced, and it was revealed Okada was involved. But I wanted to give it a chance.

But it's so obvious what kind of conclusion IBO is heading to right now. I almost don't even want to bother finishing the series, because the ending I expect is just going to make the whole show feel like a waste of time.

>>15339044
Just because they flesh out his buttboy backstory the same episode as his big play doesn't mean that his motivation is not wanting to get buttraped again, anon. He probably doesn't want a world where that can happen to other people, but that's about it. At the end of S1 when he's imprisoning Iznario, even shows that he's personally over it, and is now just doing all he can to achieve his goals

>>15339118

Reminder that you were warned before, over and over again, about Okada, but fags on /m/ kept saying it was a meme, Okada isn't a bad writer, the hate was "mindless" and without reasons, etc.

>watched episode 48
>this show sucks

>>15339118
>>15339125
Plus Tatsuyuki Nagai was helming it. Putting both of them together was not going to end well.

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>>15339090
>What's the conclusion to the various character arcs? They all die.
takaki got happy end

People really upset that Tekkadan is going to get rekt?

I thought /m/ hated them wtf is this

I want the old /m/ back

>>15339125
I'm still suspicious about the blame Okada posters, since the problem hasn't exactly been the writing, especially considering how many interesting (though underexplored) ideas there are, but how the show is being directed. If anything the biggest problem has been that the show takes forever to tell the story, which is why the deathflags come from miles away for every character. If the director had done his job and moved everything along at a faster pace, there wouldn't have been much of a problem.

>>15339154
Why is he sad?

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>>15339125
Okada is fine if you put her on a leash with the right director.

>>15339172
Because his boyfriend died, he shot a man in the face, and then quit the PMC that he worked in with all his closest friends.

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>>15338803
At the very least she'll get her brother back, so that's something for her.

>>15339167
Tekkadan deserves everything they got, mostly thanks to Orga being a shit leader. I'm only gonna be disappointed if it ends with Gjallajorn remaining firmly in charge and just as corrupt (if not more) as the start of the show. I want a real Revolution already, dammit!

>>15339171

The director certainly does not help, because he is a hack choke artist too. But no, this is Okada's work. You see, whenever people are out there shit talking Okada, her defenders pop up and say "you don't know how much she wrote!" "her role is not that big!" "she's a good writer, you're just following the hate train, you never watched an Okada show probably."

No, you can tell her involvement because a lot of her shows with different directors have the same bullshit. There's always specific indicators, like a calling card. When I watch IBO and look at what a clusterfuck is I can see the hand of Okada there. She set it up. I can smell her.

The hamfisted sudden forced drama. The longwinded beginning that forces a disjointedly fast second half. The abysmally written, chemistry-less main romance. The constant buildup with no payoff. Yeah, that's her alright.

>>15339175

>Okada is fine if her involvement is minimized and the director is fighting to polish her turd composition and writing

Yeah, no. M3 was good in spite of her, not because she helped.

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Will ride get Guts killed in the next episode when he needs saving?

>>15339182
I remember back in season 1 when Gali was running away from marriage and almiria was really happy about being engaged. it'd be nice if gali and julieta survive and get married and she gets to be their flower girl or some shit i just want these three to be happy

>>15339189
>The constant buildup with no payoff
This is what gets me. Maybe doing this a few times is alright, but it feels like the modus operandi of this show is to give its audience constant blueballs

>>15339189
>disjointedly fast second half
Second half was faster, but still slow as fuck

How will Macky make it out alive, /m/?

>>15339196
I'm still confused by what they're doing with Ride.
Why keep saving this guy for no reason to the point that one of the protagonists had to die saving him?
He's not really relevant to the plot at all.
Are fujobux that strong?

>>15339211

He's Gohan.
I bet the ending will have him having quit the thug life to study or some shit.

>>15338581
>>15337410
really jogs the noggin

>>15339210
He won't.

He will drown in his ideals and die.

>>15338822
>ride
He needs to stay away from everyone and everything

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>>15339210
He won't make it out alive but he'll end up changing Gjallarhorn with everything he did.

>>15339228
Is he Shirou?

>>15339172
he said he had a hard day at work

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>>15339193
>"m3 was good because the writer wrote it, not because it was written by the writer"
Do you think the script just poofed into existence by itself and was then tainted by Okada's hand?

>>15339175
the director is the one that decided to not kill lafter/shino/azee in s1 tho

Okada deserved better

>>15339242
She wrote the script and the director fixed it for TV

>>15338316
Are you a fucking Einfag who hates Gaelio and McGillis? What the hell is your taste?

>>15339230
>shota macky/almiria
Cute.

>>15339185
Who will lead the real revolution?
Makanai?
It will end in a flashforward 15 or so years later where a Makanai/Kudelia earth force will go after Rustal. Then blackscreen. Then OVA announcement for May 2018

>>15339196
He's going to go to earth with Kudelia/Atra and Chad. He is the future of Tekkadan.
I get he keeps having to get save and gets his friends killed but he is probably only 12 or 13.

>>15339230
No he won't, because he'll be dead.

McGillis has no power right now, all he can do is just kill Rustal.

Which he won't, because he and Gaelio will kill each other, leaving Mika to be one to take out Rustal.

>>15338896
>Why is /m/ so fucking stupid and proud of that?

/m/ was never the same again after the emergence of Valvrager e AZ shitposters.

Temp IDs would fix a lot of /m/'s problems. The only people who disagree are the ones who constantly samefag shitpost and don't want to be called on their bullshit.

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>>15339211
he's the cute little kohai. thats really it.
>>15339218
maybe he'll work with Takaki at makanai's.

>>15339211
He represents their motivation to be mercenaries. He's the innocent child who only knows that world and has no other prospects or family. He's unironically pure.

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I miss the Reginlaze.

>>15339324
The shitposters are autistic enough to bypass this

>reading comments around the interwebs
>people cheering Macky hit Iok
so like why? Iok's whole plan was to get hit by macky and macky knew this so he did it to get everyone's attention on him so Orga could leave. Iok survived with little physical damage. all it costed was a Graze.

I guess that explains why Iok flew the Graze since they have a million of them lying about

>>15339359
>so like why?

Everyone hates Iok, you retard.

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>>15339365
i love iok

What's Mika going to do now that he can't follow Orga's orders anymore? Character development?

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>>15338637
wait...

has anyone checked to make sure that's not the guy who killed Laftner?

>>15339370
Drop dead, Rustal.

>>15338918
>>15339048
I'am the only one who despises the idea of a harem ending? I just want Mika and Atra to be together because Kuckdelia. I prefer Mika to die if that stops a possible harem ending

>>15339041
Thats what the writers wanted so they did good

>>15338766
>Schrodinger's Iok

you made my night, brah

New Thread

>>15339403
>>15339403
>>15339403

>>15338783

very well spoken.

shit, i like you...

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>>15339388
I think is mostly due to the general romantic view of what love should be in the western world, so in general I understand the dislike and partly share it, imo it simply does not feel satisfying especially since it seems Atra and Mika don’t really understand the complete concept of love and kudelia is riding along because she is like that

>>15339048
Mika really needs an epic death..in the middle of the last episode, so they can show the fallout....

>>15339408
>>15339408
>New Thread

>303 post
not reached the bump limit

You're Trying Too Hard

>>15339408
How can you be this retarded?

>>15338004
Lewd

>>15339451
>>15339451

>>15338783

>McGillis manages to get away and hide himself in some bunker someplace where he can broadcast his speeches as Gjallarhorn struggles to find him

Would people actually care what he says anymore since he is essentially ousted and powerless?

>>15339406

It is pretty much the only way to describe him right now, consider that he escaped death four times (Hashmal, cracked glass on bridge, almost got Dainslef'd, and almost got skewered by Mcgillis) he will either survive or die in some hilariously contrived manner in the finale. The launch that carries him will somehow malfunction and crash into Skipjack's bridge killing him and Rustal

New

>>15339462
>>15339462

>>15339467
>New
>gibo393.jpg

Jesus

>>15339479
whats wrong with the new

>>15339485
see >>15339455. that is a official thread

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>>15339408
>>15339455
>>15339467

Nice job, guys.

Really, top quality work here.

>>15339488
And why is that the official one?

>>15339513
It's created by an autist.

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>>15338335
HE SHOULD HAVE DIED IN THIS DAMMIT, IT'S NOT FAIR

>>15339513
filename

>>15338896
Mika will become a potato. Mark my words

>>15338783
Should have took Orga's offer for him to swing.

>>15338718
>>15338756
>>15338747
>>15338723
this image is from Hashamal fight isn't it?

>>15338928
>the gundam
>one of the best age designs
>pants on head elbow joints

fuck this gay earth.

>>15339376
No.... It's too late....

>>15339525
All these threads are confusing