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UNIVERSAL CENTURY ONE YEAR WAR

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SETTING: Universal Century One Year War

Lelouch with Geass on the side of Zeon

VERSUS

Light Yamagi with the Death Note on the side of the Federation


Which side wins?
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>>15332770
>Which side wins?
the side picking up the pieces after those two finish destroying each other
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>>15332770

Lelouch is an extraordinarily shitty pilot, so Light wins.
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>>15332770
Do either side get their notable figures?

>Light uses Death Note to wipe out the Zabi family
>Char takes over Zeon

>Lelouch geasses Amuro (don't ask how he does this, it's Lelouch, there's always a BS way for him to win)
>Gundam is taken to Zeon side
>pic related
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>>15332857

Why would Lelouch allow Char to take over Zeon? It would be much better for him just to take over himself using the disguise as Zero.
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>>15332770

Light uses the Death Note to purge (ala Stalin) any spies, criminals, or incompetent military officers that stand in his way. The Federation is now a well-oiled machine of destruction, and completely, and utterly stomps the crap outta Zeon. Geass or No Geass, Zeon does not have the numbers to stand up to a fully efficient Federation operating at 100% capacity.
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In terms of raw ability, Light was clearly superior. It was difficult for Lelouch to hide his identity when no one was looking for him and when he had the assistance of other people. Light managed to evade being named as Kira through subtle manipulation, careful maneuvering, and incredible self-control while being constantly hunted down by an equally intelligent adversary. Light and Lelouch were probably about on par in terms of ability to predict the actions of others. They were both several steps ahead of pretty much everybody. Lelouch may be somewhat superior due to his better understanding of people. He was consistently able to accurately predict the actions and precise verbal responses of his enemies (and even himself when he faced Mao). In spite of this, Light was much better able to strategize and execute his plans. Lelouch was basically defeated on multiple occassions. CC was the only reason he stayed in the game the majority of the time (most notably when his mind was altered). Light was only truly bested once, and that required the actions of two equally intelligent individuals with access to tremendous government level resources. Although Lelouch faced a greater resource deficit in comparison with his enemy, Light had fewer resources to make use of in the first place. All things considered, Light was definitely more intelligent (in a sense). Case in point, Light would have been able to carry out Lelouch's goal, probably without dying. Lelouch would have been unable to survive in Light's position as long as Light. That being said, Lelouch did actually succeed, whereas Light did not. This was ultimately due to Lelouch's superior ability to make use of allies. Lelouch was able to use people to compensate for his own deficiencies. Light manipulated people to make the best use of his abilities. In the end, Lelouch was more effective and arguably more intelligent, whether or not he truly possessed greater mental acuity.
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Lelouch because

geass >>>>>>>>> death note

and you cant take away geass. you can steal the death note
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>>15332770
What can Lelouch even do if he gets his name written on the death note? He never hides his name and it's known by fucking everyone so it should be extremely simple for Light to win. Of course the Geass is stupid and extremely poorly written so it can probably bullshit a way into making him invincible.
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>>15335077

If he wears a mask and hides his identity AKA Zero, then he stops the Death /note
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>>15332770

Man, Zeon was already on the losing side the moment they tried to pick a fight with Earth, giving them Light and his Deathnote is overkill.
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>>15335071
Who would steal a notebook? That's some pretty dumb reasoning. Nobody is going to know what it does.
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>>15335124

Everyone steals the note in the show. Light loses it like 5 times.
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>>15332770
Amuro wielding death note would be funny.
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>stupid crossover thread in catalog
Is that you Spaceboo-
>shitty vs thread where one of the characters isn't even tangentially /m/ related
Here I was almost excited.
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>>15336872
Light shares voice actors with Setsuna. Close enough.
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>>15332901
>Light uses the Death Note to purge (ala Stalin) any spies, criminals, or incompetent military officers that stand in his way. The Federation is now completely lacks any officers capable of initiative behaviour and consists of grey bureaucrats that managed to stay under the radar, and completely, and utterly falls to Zeon while Light continues to "improve" the system the only way he knows - by continuing to kill anybody he thinks is a threat and replacing them with ideologically correct unprofessional shits (ala Stalin).
Whoh, that was a big mistype on your end, but i fixed it.
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>>15332770
Tell you who doesn't win, anyone who has to see this eyesore of a thread in the Catalog. I've already lost.
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>>15336891
That's retarded logic and you know it. If we justified something being /m/ by voice actors then nearly every anime is /m/.
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>>15336903
The thread is retarded from the beginning so there's no point in you obviously pointing out the obvious. It's not any less retarded than SRW which is still very popular on /m/.
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>>15336906
SRW at least has all its characters come from /m/ series. It's less retarded than a cahracter being /m/ just because their VA also did a /m/ role.
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>>15336906
SRW is /m/, Death Note isn't, don't be dumb and bring even stuff into the topic of this thread which has nothing to do with the topic of this board just because you don't like SRW.
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>>15336914
Lelouch is still there so its still /m/ related whether you like it or not.
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>>15336916
In terms of crossovers, how are SRW and this thread any different? Thats all i meant, because I like SRW so there's no reason to get your panties wet over it.
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>>15336920
I'm not saying the thread itself isn't /m/, even if it's completely retarded. I'm saying that trying to claim Light is /m/ related because he shares a VA with Setsuna is even more retarded than the thread.
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>>15332770
Light kills the commanding officers esp Zabi, Char assumes control.

Lulu's abilities aren't especially helpful in the Gundam universe due to the number of newtypes and lack of eye contact but he can use POWs as sleeper agents. He gets assassinated by Light before he can carry out the plan but not before a sleeper agent kills Amuro.

War is over. Bright and co. get wind of what's going on and put Light into detention. Light regretfully plans to assassinate White Base knowing that they will never agree with his ideology and to prevent word of the Death Note getting out.

Char assassinates Light just as Light tries to write Char's name down.

Char enacts plan for nuclear winter with Zeon remnants with no Zeta interlude and wins.
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>>15336944
>lack of eye contact
Another Century's Episode R had Lelouch geass one of the main villains when they were both inside separate robots - no direct eye contact. It contradicts CG itself, but it sets a precedent for Lulu being even more BS in crossovers.
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>>15336944

No way. Lelouch doesn't even have to use his real name. No one, not even Light, will know his real name because he was born out of universe. Lelouch uses a fake civilian name AND dresses as Zero providing double layer protection against the Death Note. The only way to counter that is to use Shinigami Eyes which Light won't do because of pride.

So it comes down to Chess. Light has no military background and is not a capable field commander. Lelouch owns him during actually battles and the war.
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>>15336973
This makes his ability less useless but in Gundamverse I'd find his abilities to be overreliant on circumstance and Light definitely wins on range and actual utility. Killing people in key places can disrupt entire strategies in the case of Light whereas Gundam is in larger more open areas meaning that Lulu's abilities are hindered.

Moreover, broadcasting in Gundam can be crucial for morale and war effort crossing the vast distances of space. People are not circumspect about concealing their names and faces other than Char which gives Light a definite advantage.

People are further apart in Gundam which is what I feel intensified the need for newtype abilities which again compromises Lelouch's abilities.

Light doesn't need to use the Death Note to directly kill Lelouch. He can kill key defendants around Lelouch and have other mechs slaughter him.
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>>15336985
Lelouch cannot wear his Zero costume inside the Gundam. It might impair visibility to a degree and would not protect him if he was blown out into space. Whilst Char was able to conceal his face he had to provide a valid pretext for it. I get the feeling that Zeon was more nepotistic than meritocratic and part of Char's reach was established by befriending Garma.

Now Char would definitely vouch for Lulu I'd imagine, but I don't think that it would be necessary for Lulu to disguise himself in Gundam. In CG he was rebelling against the established order. In Gundam the Feddies and Zeon are more on even footing - no big enemy to rebel against. Indeed you could argue that the Feddies are rebelling against Zeon, but since Lulu is on Zeon's side - why does he need to conceal what he is?
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What is wrong with you people? Lelouch would NEVER pilot the gundam himself. He's a terrible pilot. Lelouch would much rather rule and would put himself in a ruling position. He would get someone to pilot for for him. He'll probably Geass Char or Amuro into being a body guard for him for life.
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Everyone loses. Zeon wouldn't have a leadership structure after a few minutes. Light would consider newtypes a threat, and would kill Amuro. The learning computer data never makes it to the GMs. Lelouch as Zero of Char would try to feel the void of dead Zabi. Both of them wouldn't die easily because not their real name and they're wearing masks. Light would then kill all the “bad" and destroy the federation leadership structure while thinking he's doing it a favor. The zeeks at Jaburo win due to crippled federation command structure and less usuable Jims. Lelouch probably pulls a dumb ass plan out his pocket at some point. Char finds and kills light in a newtype psychic hunting game for revenge for stealing his kills.
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>>15332770
>Meme: The war
Everyone loses
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All Light needs to do is use Shinigami eyes and lelouch dies. You don't even need to look at them directly. Shinigami eyes work even through a TV.
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>>15339374
Only Light is never going sacrifice half his lifespan unless he can get someone else to take the fall.
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>>15332770
Both get shot by a stray round from some secondary character piloting a Dom.
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>>15332770

I like to think that intelligent people has close to 100% control over their actions. They set out to do something and tries their best to finish it.

Light and Lelouch both were incredible. Their intellect is on par with each other. But I think Lelouch is better by a simple point. He never lost sight of himself and his purposes. Lelouch gained so much power yet you can't call him power drunk. Whereas Light tried to become a God! This pretty much tells us who is more intelligent.
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>>15332770

Light is no warrior. He's a politician.
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>>15337012
Lelouch is an okay pilot. He's not particularly gifted, but his mother was a pilot and he has experience at it from a young age. He's not going to take out many aces by himself, but he has a good survival rate against mooks.

It's Lelouch's physical abilities that are terrible. Light by comparison is in great physical shape.

Also, Lelouch is a genius field commander whereas Light has no military experience whatsoever.
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char would die in minutes you dumb fucks its pretty obvious who he is
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>>15339374
That wouldn't work if he was using the Zero persona.
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>>15332770
What position do they start in? If they're both just dumped into the MSG universe, then Light has no way to directly order Zeon around, whereas Lelouch can take over Zeon pretty quickly.

>>15333045
>Although Lelouch faced a greater resource deficit in comparison with his enemy, Light had fewer resources to make use of in the first place.

Are you kidding? Things kept falling into Light's lap. When someone figured out his identity, they walked right up to him and let it slip, allowing Light to kill them. Misa throws away her own life to give him extra resources. L figured out Light was Kira right away, and could have killed him any time he wanted, but instead tried to engage him in a battle of wits and force him to expose himself.

By contrast, the universe hates Lelouch. Everything that can go wrong will go wrong, no matter how bullshit ("Why, I could order you to kill all the Japanese!").

Lelouch is good at bouncing back when his plans go wrong, and coming up with a new plan so fast that no one notices the difference. By contrast, when Light's plans go wrong he throws a tantrum and makes stupid mistakes.
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>>15339374
Shinigami Eyes only work if you can see the target's face. You also can't kill someone with a Death Note unless you picture their face.

>>15336985
>Lelouch uses a fake civilian name AND dresses as Zero providing double layer protection against the Death Note. The only way to counter that is to use Shinigami Eyes which Light won't do because of pride.
Also, sometimes it's not even him wearing the Zero costume, but C.C. Not only does C.C. hide her real name too, she's immortal.

That, and misspelling a person's name in a Death Note four times makes them immune to that Death Note. If Lelouch figures out how Kira's powers work, this seems pretty likely to come up.


The absolute worst case scenario for Light, though, is if Ryuk gets caught in a Geass.
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Many would be quick to assume that Lelouch would easily win, given that he can just use geass on Light. However, them not knowing each other's alter egos makes this interesting. In the end though, Light would win. It would come down to who figures out the other's alter identity first. I am assuming Light comes across "both" Lelouch and Zero at some point, he then picks up on the fact that they both have the same time of death down to the exact minute (with his shinigami eyes). From this, he also picks up on the fact that Lelouch's death is about to happen very soon. He assumes from these facts that Lelouch HAS to be Zero. He then has an advantage over Lelouch, who still does not know who Kira is. He then writes down Lelouch's name in the Death Note. Light wins.
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>Zerov Skira
Which show is he from?
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>>15341936
>Also, sometimes it's not even him wearing the Zero costume, but C.C. Not only does C.C. hide her real name too, she's immortal.

You think Ryuk can't tell the difference between CC and Lelouch? Death Reaper >>>> Immortal

You are not thinking this through.
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>>15344265
Ryuk would just find it funny
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>>15344008
>I am assuming Light comes across "both" Lelouch and Zero at some point, he then picks up on the fact that they both have the same time of death down to the exact minute (with his shinigami eyes).
Again, the Shinigami Eyes require you to look at someone's face. They don't work on masked people. And Light would never halve his own lifespan just to help the Federation; he's in it for self-gratification and nothing else.
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>>15344761
>Oh hey CC, `sup, so you're fucking with humans too, eh? Badass let's get some beers and pizza and catch up.
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>>15344008
>Zero's rally is interrupted by a taunting message from Kira
>Lelouch realises that someone in the crowd must be either Kira or one of his agents
>Lelouch makes a flamboyant gesture to draw the entire crowd's attention to himself, then looks out at them and says "You must be wondering if I plan to-"
>Lelouch activates his Geass
>"-kill Kira."
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