Even Tomino thinks Zeta is bad.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2002-12-12/a-short-talk-with-yoshiyuki-tomino
>>15329870
You could at least post the excerpt
>AI- About Z Gundam
>YT- To tell the truth, as a creator of Gundam I think I should not have ake the sequel to Gundam. I, however, think as a producer it's a nice decision for me to have made Z Gundam. Gundam 2, or Z, was so dark. I directed Z in order to tell "Hey, watch my new Gundam, youngsters. Why are you not so lively like them in Z ?" But Z resulted in Gundam getting more popular. I do not like Z but it made a modest economic success. It resulted that various Gundam shows appeared directed without me. As a result of my decision to make a sequel to First Gundam, Gundam Saga has proceeded over 20 years. At the same time, I feel I should have finished Gundam story in the first series.
>>15329904
The guy obviously didn't want a sequel to Gundam, so he probably should have pulled an Ideon in 0079.
>>15329904
So he wanted the original as a stand alone work. I guess that sort of explains why he has Amuro die in the novel.
>>15329904
Why do these interviews always read so awkwardly?
>>15329936
he seems like a awkward guy in real life
>>15330021
That and overly humble about his work.
>>15329936
Tomino actually speaks like a Tomino character irl
>>15330260
Or the translation is just overly literal
>>15329870
>At the same time, I feel I should have finished Gundam story in the first series.
So Tomino doesnt like any Gundam series that is not 0079, not just Zeta.
ZETA TROLL BTFO.
Virtually all of Tomino's other works were stand alone series. He's probably the type who doesn't like franchises.
>>15329936
Tomino speaks awkwardly, and then ANN (even worse, ANN fifteen years ago) googletls him.
>>15329870
Has Tomino ever not said that about any of his works?
>>15329936
>he can't into Tomino dialogue.
You just don't get it!
>>15330021
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>>15330311
From reading his other interviews that pass through here, he doesn't really come off as the "sequel" kind of guy. He wrote a story that has a beginning and an end and it should stay that way. That's what I've gleaned anyway.
>>15330311
This.
>>15329870
He doesn't. He just regrets some aspects of it.
Can you shitters just stop trying to artificially create this board wide negative opinion of Zeta Gundam?
>>15329936
Because Japanese grammar and syntax isn't like English.
>>15329870
I'm cureous to know what he thinks of Gundam San
>>15330969
Why are you still in denial? Tomino hates Gundam so much that he claims G-Self is the most powerful thing ever.
>>15330929
Well, that's not a bad mindset to have.
Not everything should have a sequel.
>>15331233
Fuck that. GGG still needs a sequel that is a continuation to what happened in the movie. You can even CGI it, I wouldn't care.
>>15329870
Tomino basically saying gundam is a mistake lol
nice
>>15331276
Is he wrong though?
>>15331270
Anon said not "everything" should have sequel
Learn to read
>>15331276
It's entirely possible that a good portion of his story didn't make it to the final cut or the other way around, where they forced him to add filler to make the timeslot. We'll never know.
>>15329936
Adults like you will never understand!!
>>15331541
>We'll never know
Yes we do. Read his MSG novel. Pretty much everything he wanted to do in series but couldn't.
Doesn't he suck Miyazaki's dick? I mean it makes sense if they feel the same way about anime. I mean this guy hates video games and look how many gundam games there are.
he struggles with the legacy he left behind. I don't think it helped that G-Reco didnt do well either.
>>15331778
It makes Tomino seem that much cooler, in the sense that even after Miyazaki shat on Gundam, he still has nothing bad to say about Miyazaki.
>>15330267
Yea, this. Pretty obvious, people.
>>15331778
Just read a Forbes interview with Tomino where he refines the statement about video games. He just doesn't want to play them because he would spend too much money on them.
>>15331760
I don't know the story behind that novel though. What I mean is is stuff like - Was the novel literally his original script just published into a book; did the guys as Sunrise tell/ask him to make one because it would be another source of income for the franchise; Did Tomino simply decided to write an alternate fanfiction to the show, simply as a creative device?
That kind of thing.
>>15331778
>I don't think it helped that G-Reco didnt do well either.
Oh look another retard
>>15331778
G-Reco did do well.
Tomino's done a lot of important innovation for the genre but on the whole I think he's pretty overrated
>>15332348
I think he thinks so too.
>>15332251
I lean more towards to last one. There's some pretty major departures from the anime and the story is written in a closed-ended fashion that doesn't account for the possibility of sequels.
Also the tone is definitely much more adult (not something I could see Sunrise hoping to adapt).
>>15332363
I think so too. In the novel he plays around with a lot of ideas that recur and crystallize in his latter works so rather than having some strictly defined perception of how the story should play out it seems like he was experimenting and trying to find out how for he can take the initial premise.
>>15332363
>In the novel he plays around with a lot of ideas that recur and crystallize in his latter works so rather than having some strictly defined perception of how the story should play out it seems like he was experimenting and trying to find out how for he can take the initial premise.
This makes me wonder what he might have been trying to work on creatively when he decided to make Amuro and Sayla have a tragic love story. Does this show up in some of his other works?
>>15332610
Death is a sort of catharsis through which we come to understand things about the character we might never had otherwise. See this as a necessary exploration and comentary on Amuro's character and his role in the story, not as an attempt at melodrama through the frustration of the characters' romantic aspirations.
The role of the romance in the story is not to make the characters more sympathetic to the viewer but an attempt to de-romanticise "romantic" love and to present it as one of the foundations of traditional family that Tomino perceives to be the basic building block of society.
In this sense the fact that Sayla is always abandoned in the end by all people who love her in all iterations of the story is just one of the many examples in Tomino's work of the profound and lasting effect that destruction of traditional family caused by society itself has on the individual.
>>15332734
>See this as a necessary exploration and commentary on Amuro's character and his role in the story, not as an attempt at melodrama through the frustration of the characters' romantic aspirations.
Why do I get the feeling you're implying shit I never said?
>The role of the romance in the story is not to make the characters more sympathetic to the viewer but an attempt to de-romanticise "romantic" love and to present it as one of the foundations of traditional family that Tomino perceives to be the basic building block of society. In this sense the fact that Sayla is always abandoned in the end by all people who love her in all iterations of the story is just one of the many examples in Tomino's work of the profound and lasting effect that destruction of traditional family caused by society itself has on the individual.
Is this from a Tomino interview or just your own perspective?
Btw, does anyone have links to his other interviews or commentary? I already saved the one from forbes.
>>15332734
>In this sense the fact that Sayla is always abandoned in the end by all people who love her in all iterations of the story is just one of the many examples in Tomino's work of the profound and lasting effect that destruction of traditional family caused by society itself has on the individual.
>>15332854
>Why do I get the feeling you're implying shit I never said?
I am sorry if I offended you in some way I don't understand. I don't know what you mean by "tragic love story" but the purpose of having Amuro die was definitely not making this such a story.
>Is this from a Tomino interview or just your own perspective?
I am just summing up recurring themes I noticed in his work.
I am most certain of the "traditional family is the basic building block of society" part and I don't think anyone who has watched his major works would disagree.
The part about Sayla sounds like a natural enough deduction form this and the way relationships are represented in the series and novels. Does it displease you in some way?
>>15331276
>Tomino basically saying gundam is a mistake lol
Thats what Turn A was for
>>15329870
To be honest Tomino seems to dislike everything he has ever done as a human being
>>15331221
How does that regard hatred at all?