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Final total is $629,516 USD raised by 9260 backers

Not the 9,999 or over we had hoped for (even if it was mostly symbolic), but that's a darn good number of backers and money!

>>15303762
>>15303808

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEUG_ibsZck

>trek will never be in srw
>you will never one-shot ugly Zeek ships with the Enterprise's phazers

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>>15303731
>>15303812
Wow, I'm glad they got so much more money than they needed. Wish I would have had 5k to drop on this.

Reminder that Sisko punched Q and he never came back.

>>15303969
Sisko punched Q all the way to Voyager

>>15303731
Any news on a possible DS9 HD release?

>>15303982
"Don't count on it"

>>15303982
http://www.treknews.net/2017/02/02/why-ds9-voyager-not-on-blu-ray-hd/

here's the technical explanation

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>>15303969
I like to handwave that as Sisko's demigod status causing him to be beyond Q's usual sensor range.It seems like entities that are significant beyond spacetime, even if they're not full-on godlike aliens, can fuck with him. Like how when Guinan did her space kungfu stance at him and he flipped the fuck out. So Q's just tagging along with Vash, sees some starfleet to troll, and once he gets Sisko alone realizes that he can't read Sisko and POW. "I, uhh... I meant for you to hit me, yeah. I have to go forever now kthxbye."

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>>15304759
I choose to believe this

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What is your fav Trek ship, /m/?

USS Centaur for me.

>>15304852
Akiras and Novas are good looking ships.

>>15303981
And we saw what kind of state that left the continuum in. He punched the species into stupidity.

>>15303731
>It's a kids save the most important thing episode
>It's a faringe are such jews we don't bother showing they can be civil episode
>It's a "we wrote ourselves into a writers block let's just use the space alien god things" episode
>It's a "you almost violated every known rule and caused intergalactic war, but that's okay come chill" episode
>It's a base is about to blow up AGAIN episode
>It's a Sisko loses his temper and fucks shit up but no one cares because reasons!

DS9 was so fucking dogshit

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>>15304852
Warbird

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>>15304852
I'm partial to the Ambassador, Archer, New Orleans and Andromeda class ships.

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>>15304852
Enterprise-A is my shipfu. Here's a nudie.

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>>15304852
I like the daVinci

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>>15306530
Hey that's pretty cool, I like the nacelle placement.

>>15306545
I think they let it get too wide.

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>>15306545
Yeah, it's from the Starfleet Corps of Engineers books.
Tactical Engineering Squad that gets sent in for situations that need serious business engineering. Crew includes a moe chick from that pillbug species from TAS, a bynar, a jew, and a guy from mobster planet.

>>15306645
Ugly shiplet.

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>that one guy with the ds9 hateboner who always posts ITT

>>15306645
is that a choroQ

>>15306530
I know people have hard ons for the classic Enterprise template, but I think Starfleet's more compact designs (Saber, Nova, even the Dauntless) are some of their best looking ones.

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>>15304852
For some reason, I just can't like any designs more than the Voyager's.

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>>15304852

Either the Miranda class or the Kelvin.

>>15309609
The spoon with the engines up looks pretty good with the warp background. Engines down Intrepids seem kind of flacid to me.

>>15303762
>>15303824

These get me rock hard. Shame it won't happen anytime soon.

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Tell me Captain, if the Federation is so great then why is there no Star Trek anime?

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>>15304852
Excelsior class. Connie refit is also sexy. Just something about the TOS movies.

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>>15312157
There was a 'anime'mation in the 70's with horrible disco theme. If you are refering to a japanamation, you think the japs are going to throw down money for licensing fees? Star Trek aint cheap.

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>>15312157
>no Star Trek anime
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22712256

>>15312310
If the seiyuu for Spock and Kirk had switched roles, they would have sounded more like Shatner and Nimoy.

>>15312294
>Fresh from his bloody triumph over the pacifists of the Gandhi Nebula, 25-star general Gul Dukat!

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>>15312294
>you think the japs are going to throw down money for licensing fees?
Star Trek plamo by Bandai never. Kill me now.

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>>15312806
Stop being so dramatic.

>>15312847
I built this kit, but I don't even remember when it came out -- 2003, 2004? I think Enterprise was still on the air at the time.

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>>15312912
And here it is.

>>15313723
That actually looks pretty good.

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>>15312286
>Excelsior

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>>15313765
This is the 1701-E from that series.

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>>15313723
I really want this, it looks great anon

>>15309609
Its a really solid design, one of my favorites. I am partial to the Akira class. though.

Side note, my roleplaying group just started a Star Trek campaign, so I get to experience so hilarious shenanigans in the coming weeks (since the gm and most of the players arent big Trekkies).

Has anyone collected the ship models from Eaglemoss? I'm interested in possibly subscribing to the service. Any pros or cons will the subscription service or the models themselves?

>>15314661
They're small and sometimes pack glaring canon inaccuracies. A few of your favorite ships might be worth it as individual purchases.

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Who is your favorite character from each series you've watched?

TOS: Kirk
TNG: Riker
DS9: Kira

>>15314707
Spock, Picard, Garak, Paris (not exactly a lot to choose from on that one), Shran

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>>15304852

>>15314707
Scotty, Data, Garak, Seven/The Doctor, Shran

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Anyone remember when we made those recommended episode images a few years back? I only saved the Voyager one.

Also is there any hope of Discovery not being utter trash?

>>15314784
The ones that weren't quite spoilery? I lost those ages ago, but they were pretty good.

Discovery might be ok, but I'm prepared for the first season to be kind of bad, as per usual.

>>15314789
I still think it's retarded to make another prequel series. Give us something further in the future and show us how the galaxy has progressed. Being a prequel makes me feel like we're going to get another episode like Enterprise dealing with Klingon forehead rationalization.

>>15303762

>needlessly shiny

Disgusting.

ST was best when they were using actual models still.

>>15309609
>>15309874

Intrepid, Stargazer, and Miranda are my favorites.

I still regret never finding a Voyager Micro Machine when I was a kid.

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>>15314808

And I forgot my picture.

>Tmnt
>X-men
>Green Lantern
>Planet of The Apes
Who will Star Trek cross with next?

>>15314810
What was that divot in the front supposed to be, anyway? Sensors?

>>15314795
Yeah. I actually liked the forehead rationalization episodes, but a prequel does feel like it's going to be heavily constrained, or they'll attempt to fit another stupid demand from the network in and we'll get the temporal cold war all over again.

>>15314836
>What was that divot in the front supposed to be, anyway? Sensors?

I thought it was a secondary deflector?

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>>15314784
This?

>>15314795
>I still think it's retarded to make another prequel series
I agree. It's probably the very worst decision they could have made. I don't have much hope for the new series, I'm really scared it's going to kill Trek for good.

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>>15314840
It is a secondary deflector.

>>15314827
Gundam.

>>15314799
Shiny exteriors imply bare metal, which is pig-disgusting because corrosion. Though they cold be coated in platinum or something.

>>15314900
>for good
A JJ film is going to come out some time after Discovery.

>>15314900
That's the one I (>>15314789) had in mind, at least. Thanks!

>>15313723
>>15313803
Oh lord, they're beautiful. Makes me wonder why Bandai's kits aren't praised more often.

>>15314827
Buck Rogers.

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>>15314827

Don't forget they had a Doctor Who crossover.

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Did the Enterprise-D have the best bridge? I think so. Note, I didn't say most practical. Purely aesthetics.

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>>15316026
I didn't think much of Voyager as a show, but it had the best bridge.

>>15316209
The seating situation bothers me, but I think on balance it's my favourite as well.

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>>15316026
That 80s curvature makes me want to agree with you. I also like that it's laid out so that Picard can reasonably stand up, take a few steps forward, and monologue the hell out of whatever's on the viewscreen.

Something about the size of the beige panelling and the comparative smallness of the monitors in the back of the D feels off, though. I think the A got that pretty well.

>>15316209
I never understood how making it dark is suppose to help in combat situations.

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>>15316026
It was certainly the most comfy.

https://youtu.be/dLrfdcz8Ou4

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>>15316359
The best explanation I've heard is that they copied it from submarines, and that submarines use low, red lights because it allows humans to see well while still preserving their night vision, which tends to be useful if you want to look outside a submarine and/or not emit light from the periscope.

If that theory is correct, it would probably be noticable in the TOS sub-style episodes. I think they dimmed the lights in Balance of Terror, but I could be misremembering, and the only captures I can find immediately don't show the full bridge very clearly.

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>>15314707
Spock
Data
Odo
Please state the nature of the medical emergency.
Archer's dog.

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>>15314707
Kirk
Geordi
Bashir
Tuvok
Malcom

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>you will never live in the Star Trek universe
I'm not one to pine about not living in fantasy worlds, but I must confess that this one actually hurts pretty deeply.

>>15318215
I agree, especially for TOS. Roddenberry's optimism was (for the most part) so thoroughly ingrained that you could really believe that he, at least, believed it was plausible.

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>>15318215

The Culture would be better.

>>15316379
I still think getting rid of the reclining chairs for Comm and Ops was a mistake. That was maximum comfy.

>>15318856
True. Maybe I'm just getting sentimental in my old age, but I find it increasingly disappointing how many people seem to disparage Roddenberry's vision. Maybe he was starting to get a bit senile in his old age during the early development of TNG, but his dedication to his ideals was nothing but admirable.

I'm really hoping future series will try to recapture that sense of optimism, because we certainly need it these days. I say future series, because I have no faith in Discovery going down that path, but that's a completely different discussion.

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>>15314784

>>15319891
>>15319895
Still amuses me Wolf helped put Gowron on the throne and then ended up killing him years later.

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>>15320006
>Wolf helped put Gowron on the throne and then ended up killing him years later.
Pure Klingon poetry.

>>15320006
dork, thats Klingon SOP

>>15320006
I wonder how moondub Gowron sounds

>>15314707
>DS9: Kira

Like, she was attractive and a fairly cool character, but I can't really imagine her being anyone's favorite.

Now if we were talking about, say, Dukat.

That's an easy pick for favorite.

>>15322149

>there has never been a sim starfleet game

fuck

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>>15322332
>there has never been a Star Trek eroge

>>15322356
> Sickened but curious

>>15314810
Voyager had a hard life

Anyone here played the mod for Stellaris?

>>15322650
No, the problem VOY had is that the Voyager's life was too easy.

>>15323108
yeah I Know I should watch DS9

>>15306557
Is there an explanation for how the nacelles can be so close to the ship?

Come to think of it,
>>15306645
that would need an explanation too.

>>15323621
>Is there an explanation for how the nacelles can be so close to the ship?
I don't remember a reason why they were far away from the ship in the first place, although I do remember that during the discussion of the Defiant, it was mentioned as the first combat-focused ship. Could it just be that the engines were traditionally kept away from the hull to maximize usable hull space, which wasn't prioritized as much for the Defiant?

That logic would also work for the Da Vinci, since the engines are more easily accessible from the central hull than in most models (reasonable for an engineering ship), but they really just stick out of the hull anyway (to maximize interior space).

>>15323621
>>15323678
Yeah it seems between the one from Wrath of Khan and the Defiant they kinda wandered off from "warp tubes need to be far away"

>>15303982

Don't listen to the technical jargon excuses some nerds like to say (like DS9 was more CGI heavy, it would cost too much compared to TNG HD or whatever). The TNG HD Remaster didn't make enough money/sell enough for CBS to want to do DS9. That is the ONLY reason that matters.

If TNG HD had made a ton of money, we would be seeing DS9 HD right now.

>>15325134
With Shuttlecraft and Runabouts being that in between I suppose.

>>15314784
After finally sitting down and watching this episode, I fully understand why it gets so much flack. Not because it's "Justice" levels of nonsensical right off the bat, but because it's a solid plot that completely shits itself in the last 10 minutes.

I mean, I know all that is obvious, but I was thoroughly taken aback by how good Robert McNeil was in this episode. The transition from aviation drama to The Fly was handled so well I couldn't even complain at the sudden leap.

Even the puppetry work on the Space Salamanders was impressive for how long they were on camera. But it's just... So, so incongruent with the rest of the episode.

>>15325174
This is the sad stuff. For them to release HD DS9, they would need to use the same process required by TNG which was basically reconstructing the episodes from film negatives. They also have the data required for the 3D models. Sad fact is that people just pirated the TNG blu-ras instead of buying them.

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>>15304852
Is it okay that I'm boring and really like the Galaxy and Sovereign? But, out of non-main ships I really like the Avenger, and I'm a fan of the Defiant-class too.

>>15325392
McNeil is certainly not the weak point of the episode. The man's a very good actor in the right circumstances, and he is clearly putting a lot of effort into his scenes.

>>15325134
I think the idea is that that need scales with ship size. Oberths, Mirandas, Defiants, ect., are all substantially more compact than Constitution-esque designs. Almost certainly something that was come up with after the fact, but it mostly fits.

If I was going to watch ONE EPISODE of Voyager, what should it be?

>>15325641
the one where Paris has to go to Space Driver's School is fun

>>15325641
First of all, do you count two-parters as one episode?

>>15325641
Threshold

>>15325654
Yeah, I can deal with that. Two-parters are okay.

>>15325659
In that case, I'd recommend Equinox, the one where Voyager discovers another Starfleet ship stranded in the Delta Quadrant whose crew has making questionable ethical choices to survive.

>>15325670
"The One Where Voyager Discovers The Premise"

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>>15325953
Generally, because of >>15323108, the best episodes of Voyager are the ones that comment on how bad of a situation Voyager *should* have been in, like Equinox or Year of Hell.

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>>15325656
criminally underrated ep
>they get a shuttle to infinite speed
>somehow this makes the people inside it 'evolve' into retarded salamander/koi fish hybrids
>salamander paris and janeway fuck, have lizard babies which are abandoned on an alien planet
>they don't even consider using this infinite speed drive to return to earth, even though they now have the cure to being turned into a retard lizard.

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>>15325953

>>15314707
TOS: Bones
TNG: Riker
DS9: Jadzia
VOY: Tom
ENT: doggo

>>15325174
The technical reasons are perfectly valid. It would cost a lot in time and effort, and that's a fact.

I wouldn't want it anyway, if some shots have to be redone then it's not the same show anymore. I'll take low quality tapes of TNG over those HD versions, because they're actually the real deal.

>>15314707
TOS: Scotty
ENG: Geordi
DS9: O'Brien
VOY: B'Elanna
ENT: Trip

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Would you?

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r8 my taste boys

>>15326836
9.6/10

>>15326802
Like a jack hammer.

>>15326836
This thing doesn't seem to have half the characters it should.

>>15326802
As long as it isn't Keiko.

>>15326836
Gowron's eyes need their own entry.

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>>15327124

>>15326948
It's only DS9 characters

>>15325490
>>15326783

I know how it's done. I don't need an explanation. What you need to realize is all of your "technical excuses" is just barely a speed bump to CBS if they REALLY wanted to remaster DS9. At best, your technical excuses are a slight inconvenience, but doesn't really matter when *Serious money* is involved.

Plenty of Nay-sayers parroted the same tired excuses about TNG. How it wouldn't be on Blu-Ray for x, y, and z reasons. Then it happened. TNG got remastered.

The *ONLY* thing that matters is that fans did not support TNG HD sales enough for CBS to want to bother to remaster DS9. If they had, we wouldn't be having this conversation, and we'd probably be half-way through remastering DS9 by now.

>I wouldn't want it anyway, if some shots have to be redone then it's not the same show anymore. I'll take low quality tapes of TNG over those HD versions, because they're actually the real deal.

Real deal? LULz. VHS is just a low-res copy of the TRUE film negative. Blu-Ray is closer in resolution, and detail to the original film in every way. I can't believe someone who spouts technical excuses would then say "they wouldn't buy the blu-rays because VHS is the true version". If you like VHS despite its flaws, then great, but don't try to pretend VHS TNG is some holy grail that shouldn't be re-touched.

>>15326836
>Putting Nog ahead of Punished O'Brien
Nigga, no.

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>>15327479
>tfw unprofitable

>>15327479
also technically the aired versions looked better than VHS because VHS is really goddamn awful

>>15314836

It's a secondary deflector. The mess of stuff right above it is apparently an advanced sensor array, though.

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>>15322149

Seeing layouts like this just reminds me how awful I am at visualizing scale. The NX class is only 225m from the tip of the deflector to the ends of the nacelles, which is pretty small by Trek ship standards, but still pretty damn big otherwise.

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>>15326792
I see what you did there

>>15327781
It's nothing to be ashamed of considering they went out of their way to present the interior as relatively cramped, and that goes a long way towards envisioning the exterior.

It also probably helps that the NX-01 is smaller than the original CVN-65 Enterprise, so even by real world standards it's surprisingly shrimpy.

>>15327898
You say that as if supercarriers weren't enormous.

>>15326783

>I wouldn't want it anyway, if some shots have to be redone then it's not the same show anymore. I'll take low quality tapes of TNG over those HD versions, because they're actually the real deal.

WHAT?!!?

You are the reason The next gen blu rays did not sell well! You did not do your part!! Shameful!

They should just create a kickstarter for any future Star Trek blu rays and see if it picks up any steam.

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>>15326783
>I'll take low quality tapes of TNG over those HD versions, because they're actually the real deal.

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>>15328111
Oh wait, I'm sorry you'd prefer this LQ "real deal"...

>>15328113
Needs more scanlines, maybe a tracking tear.

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You are now the captain of the enterprise j, a ship so advanced that it doesn't even have a third dimension.
What do you do?

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>>15328129
Fire all of the designers and hire competent ones so that my ship isn't ugly af

>>15328129
The Enterprise-J's is easy to explain -- the saucer section is as thick as the entire height of the Enterprise-D, so each one of those lights is a skylight window with blocks of buildings underneath it. It's literally a flying city.

>>15328129
Find an enormous pizza.

>>15328129
hire a bunch of regular ships to fly alongside the J so there's a sense of scale when people see it

>>15328129
I warp over to the Epsilon Quadrant to investigate the mystery of the universe's deepest dish pizza.

>>15327407
>▶
I know, even then, feels like it's missing a ton of people.

>>15328129
>make pizza ship
>isn't deep dish
ONE JOB

>>15328129
Crew it exclusively with betazeds.

>>15329492
>likes deep dish pizza
what a fucking degenerate

>>15327479
>, but don't try to pretend VHS TNG is some holy grail that shouldn't be re-touched.
Good job completly ignoring my point. If you know how it's done then you know a lot of shots were redone in CG. That stuff isn't from the show I know and love and it's perfectly valid to find is distasteful.

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>>15330429

>Ship on screen isn't from the show

HahahahahahaHaha

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>>15328129

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>>15330429

>Muh feels are perfectly valid facts

>>15330429

Not the anon you are talking too.

Most of the shots (Background shots of planets, phaser effects, tractor beams, close up of screen displays, etc) that were re-done with CGI were already 1980s/1990s graphics to begin with. The only reason you didn't notice the low tech production value is because of nostalgia goggles, and the fact that it was hidden with blurry video releases like VHS.

Do you really want blurry 1980s phaser fire FX on a HD screen? It needed to be re-done.

>>15306760
agreed. Feels more 'realistic' since its not all strutted and spaced out. I guess? fuck i don't know. They look slightly hardier for the most part I suppose

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>>15314962
I think we all need to take a hard look at the whole of TOS and realize trek 2009 was right on the money in terms of feel.

Hear me out here:
TOS is absolutely full of stupid bravado only briefly interspersed with some contemplation. It's the later Trek shows and certain movies that really begin to drive home thoughtfulness over adventure, and I think the movie really does reflect that earlier almost cowboy spirit of "lets go on the most noble adventure available to mankind". Honestly if you've seen every trek movie it's clear this one is exceptionally well-executed and fitted to the tone of the era it's portraying. And if you can't accept that argument, at least don't try to tell me it's any dumber than fuckin ST VI.

Into Darkness sucks without question. Almost impossibly so.

Not sure how I feel about Beyond, but it had neat stuff (USS Franklin) and shitty stuff (reusing the same song, the insane starport thing, etc). Like Darkness, definitely nowhere near 2009 trek.

So I'm not gonna say they're ever gonna get better after this downhill rockslide, but I'm here to say it didn't start bad at all.

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>>15318873
absolute truth right here, folks

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He's right, you know

>>15331884
>TOS is absolutely full of stupid bravado only briefly interspersed with some contemplation.

Did you just not watch Devil in the Dark?

>>15331884

The insane starport belongs post TNG.

That shit is Culture level tech.

As for Beyond. I loved it. Really seemed like they wanted to push into the whole final frontier thing, but couldn't make a whole series about it.

>>15331455

I recently wqtched old SD rips of TNG.

It was really bad. Ships look fine for the most part, but every screen, every planet, and anything cgi looks terribad. It did not age well.

I really wanna try the BD TNG rips.

>>15331918
Is the US libertarian right now? Because southern california is already decades away from being pic related.
Also, I like how he compares a flawed-execution libertarian society with a perfect execution of socialism.

>>15332265
Let me guess, seasons 1 or 2. Those were the roughest seasons of trek ever. Had to build faith with networks, etc.

>>15332278

I watched it all the way through, though you are right, S1 was bad but mostly due to writing.

>>15332265

You really should watch the TNG Blurays. It's a massive change. Looks like night and day. With the remaster, (outside of the writing) it could pass for a Sci-Fi show shot today.

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>>15332272
all executions of libertarianism are flawed. It's literally the Highschooler's Utopia if i consider the number of people who considered it when we were young and then grew up into vouching democratic socialism or such when they realized that true self-sufficiency is impossible with human bodies and incompatible with the random nature of life.

Anyway, look: I don't want to sling shit, but let's take a moment to consider that by turning themselves permanently blue, Libertarians are defo the most alien political enclave out there

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>>15312157
But it was

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>>15334238
they probably don't know about the Foundation anime, either

>>15330429
I thought none of it was redone on cgi. They recomposited stuff from the original film or upscaled from the best available sources.

>>15334648
I thought it was like TOS remaster where it was CG but not hyperactive tacky shit, just the same basic shot

>>15334713
Tos bluray included both new cgi and the original film versions. I'm pretty sure the tng bkurays were 99% original.

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>>15331918

>>15334290
ASIMOV IS GROWING STRONGER

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>Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-V

>>15333974
Yeah, same with all systems. Even socialism.
They only work conceptionally... So far.

>>15334290
Is it available anywhere?

>>15335455
Same place you get >>15334238

>>15335464
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious... I'm still oblivious. A little more help, please.

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>>15335534
there isn't really a star trek anime or a foundation anime

>>15335608
Although 00 is the closest thing to Foundation.

>>15335608
Foundation is getting (got?) a manga, though. And TAS had catgirls.

>>15325174
>If TNG HD had made a ton of money, we would be seeing DS9 HD right now.
Even my mom torrented it.
The interest was there but not for physical media. They should license the HD stuff to Netflix and make money that way.

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>>15335432

>>15332272
The comparison sucks because mad max and star trek and the antithesis of one another
>mad max
Earth ran out of usable energy
>star trek
Earth has infinite energy

>>15335783
>>15335783

I don't follow. You're mom was interested enough to download a few terabytes of blu-ray rips, but not enough to buy the blu-rays? Sounds like she's making excuses for being cheap. C'mon... let's be honest, your mom wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't available to torrent/download for free. I'm not shaming your family, but I prefer we just be honest here.

Don't get me wrong. I would have loved streaming it, but CBS probably wouldn't have made their 21 million production money back (and profit from it) by partnering with Netflix. Maybe if they put it on CBS streaming as an exclusive...but even then I question how they would make their money back.

>>15335877
It's barely 70gb mate, the 720p rip.
I know exactly one person with a dedicated bluray player (ie not a game console) and it's not my mom.
Physical media will live on solely as a niche for elitists. The master's of cinema / criterion's of the world are all that's going to exist.

>>15335783
>They should license the HD stuff to Netflix and make money that way.
Did they not? I watched an episode of TNG a while back and it seemed much nicer looking than my watchthrough a year or two ago.

>>15335909

>It's barely 70gb mate, the 720p rip.

Considering the blu-ray discs were 50 GB each, and 1080p resolution...you downloaded a compressed low quality version.

>a dedicated bluray player (ie not a game console)

Nope off course blu-ray game consoles count bro. What world are you living in? 2006? Sounds like you have a game console that can play blu-ray, and were trying to conveniently bend the rules.

And Even if you don't have a game console.....I don't care if you pirate, but don't make it sound as if you didn't have enough "interest" to buy the blu-ray discs. Just admit your family was cheap, or couldn't afford it. And move on.

>>15335783

>They should license the HD stuff to Netflix and make money that way.

...

TNG HD was on Netflix. You would know this if your family wasn't so cheap! You didn't even give CBS the view count money from Netflix views! This is why we can't have DS9 HD!

>>15335958
>you downloaded a compressed low quality version.
You mean a rip? Like the word I used? That's it's definition. Also I didn't download anything.
>of course consoles count bro
To young people like me maybe. To the now well past middle aged folks that were young adults watching TNG? Not so much.
The fact of the matter is everyone had a dvd player that sort of penetration doesn't exist for bluray. That's not anecdote that's fact.

>>15335432
>>15335801
For such a common science fiction theme, Trek has done surprisingly little with parallel realities. But they do time travel every other week.

>>15335958
If they were x265 and relatively low action (which is nearly all of the franchise), you could get solid quality out of 70gb at 720. Not [EG] levels of grain fetishism, but quite reasonable. Even if you ran 264 instead and had sub optimal settings, I sincerely doubt you'd need to crack a terabyte.

>>15336188
I think they didn't want to step on the toes of the existing mirror universe setting. I'd've preferred more myself (parallel universes are something I greatly enjoy), but I can understand the reasoning.

>>15336220

Probably save a fuckton of space removing all the different audio tracks too. All you really need is stereo english.

>>15335958

720p? Eww....

>>15334843
They should've redone the explosion in CGI. Looks too much like a plain model in the switch.

>>15334843
I really don't like that it's the undamaged nacelle which explodes. I know Federation tech is shit, but that's pretty bad.

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>>15335432
Not using the superior blu-ray version...

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>>15316379
the moment you find out the NG bridge was based on the interior space of a guitar

>>15319891
Oh boy , its painful to watch this old slow motion battles

>>15334290
THIS MUST BE THE WORK OF AN ENEMY 「PSYCHOTHERAPIST」

>>15336454
Is this the Federation's new technique of predicting historical trends?

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>>15335801
Oh god they just wheeled in some spacefuture-looking chalkboard and sat it next to Wheaton. I always remembered it being mounted logically somewhere behind him like a mini MSD.

Still one of the best episodes. I loved how they just constantly threw shit at the viewer to disorient, and shit like desperate crazy Riker being willing to kill to escape the hell of his reality.

>>15319129
I want to say the super-low-slung chairs were fucking up people's backs almost as bad as the uniforms were.

>>15336621
It would explain the necessity of both the Riker and Picard maneuvers.

>>15336616
I really liked that Parallels was a Worf episode, since the "warrior is pissed off by wizards doing wizard shit" motif worked perfectly.

>>15336301
Yeah.... I know they wanted to keep it as close to the original as possible, but this shot would have been ok to redo.

>>15335958
>Considering the blu-ray discs were 50 GB each
That's not how video works. That's just the maximum storage capacity of a bluray disc. Believe it or not, they don't "fill" each one "full".

>you downloaded a compressed low quality version
All video is compressed. Even the video recorded on the blurays themselves likely use MPEG4.

>>15335801
>>15336616
>>15336699
Man, that episode really did have it all. A Worf story that didn't focus on Klingon heritage, subtle but mounting tension with the parallel universes culminating in a balls to the wall last act, and Troi looking fine as hell in that dress. Good stuff.

>>15336736
>Even the video recorded on the blurays themselves likely use MPEG4

Try again:
>The earliest releases used MPEG-2 video compression, the same method used on standard DVDs. The first releases using the newer VC-1 and AVC formats were introduced in September 2006.

>>15336755
I don't understand what you're saying. Are you just copying and pasting random things? For one, that line does not refute the use of MPEG4, it only states that early blurays used MPEG2. Today's blurays no longer use that. Also, you don't seem to understand the terminology that you copy and pasted, because AVC is a name for MPEG-4.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray
>MPEG-2 was used by many studios (including Paramount Pictures, which initially used the VC-1 format for HD DVD releases) for the first series of Blu-ray Discs, which were launched throughout 2006.[145] Modern releases are now often encoded in either MPEG-4 AVC or VC-1, allowing film studios to place all content on one disc, reducing costs and improving ease of use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
>the MPEG-4 AVC name relates to the naming convention in ISO/IEC MPEG, where the standard is part 10 of ISO/IEC 14496, which is the suite of standards known as MPEG-4. The standard was developed jointly in a partnership of VCEG and MPEG, after earlier development work in the ITU-T as a VCEG project called H.26L. It is thus common to refer to the standard with names such as H.264/AVC, AVC/H.264, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, or MPEG-4/H.264 AVC, to emphasize the common heritage.

>>15336736
>All digital video is compressed.
Just a little alteration needed. And then masters do exist, though it's standard practice never to allow them to see the light of day because of piracy fears. Though, to be fair, most people think of compressed videos as being compressed version of a source video, regardless of compression algorithms for unchanging pixels.

>>15336736

Oh god. This is rich. The guy who didn't buy the blu-ray is lecturing everyone in the thread about a product he doesn't own. And can't even get his facts right!

>>15336767
>AVC is a name for MPEG-4.
You're got it backwards. AVC is just one of the technologies under the Mpeg4 standard, and as such, needs to be specified. It's like the xG cellphone technology "standards" made up by marketers because listing the actual technologies is apparently to "complicated" for regular people.

>>15336736
>>15336755
>>15336767
>>15336736


Lulz. Do you even know how big the source video is on the Blu-Ray disc is before it was compressed and ripped to the web? If you did, you wouldn't be trying to correct everyone. Full quality or go home kid.

>>15336801

of course he doesnt. he pirated the seasons and blames his "mom" for downloading it. then tries to argue he didn't have a blu-ray player which is why he pirated it. (because in 2017 getting blu-ray players is hard right? but forgets his console can play blu-ray). The funniest thing is then he tries to educate all of us on blu-ray technology on 1.) a product he doesnt own 2.) on a player he "claims" he doesn't own and 3.) uses copy pasta from wikipedia without knowing the difference between terms

>>15326836
>Jadzia that low
why???

>>15336767
As long as we're posting wikipedia quotes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4_Part_2
>Note that MPEG-4 Part 10 defines a different format from MPEG-4 Part 2 and should not be confused with it. MPEG-4 Part 10 is commonly referred to as H.264 or AVC, and was jointly developed by ITU-T and MPEG.

>>15336746
>A Worf story that didn't focus on Klingon heritage
I didn't realize how much I liked this until you put it like that. Many side character focused episodes simply use the character as a gateway to explore another setting by brining up their backstory. It's nice to see them used as characters instead.

This reminds me how much better Remember Me was than Sub Rosa.

>>15336807
Because she's a shit nothing character with a shit actress.

Plinkett test her. She fails hard.

>>15337157
it's not your fault she left, it'll be okay

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>>15335432

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>get in line bro Star Trek is about to start

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You know, I rarely hear much about the Trek expanded universe, compared to Star Wars and other fandoms with a catalog of novels.

I picked up Strange New Worlds VII at a used bookstore on a lark and only recently cracked it open, so far I'm thoroughly entertained and ready to devour more. Anyone have recommendations? I've heard good things about the Vanguard series, but I want to know what else is out there.

>>15337329
>The Motion Picture
>Sleeping Beauty
This is funnier than it has any right to be.

>>15337465
I brought them earlier in this thread but I enjoyed the Starfleet Corps of Engineers books. That chick that spilled her drink on Picard who had three tits in Total Recall joins up with a squad of elite engineers who go do engineering things in space.

>>15337494
Was she the one in the very first Borg episode?
Because it always was weird to me how she got named and focused on just a little bit but didn't have anything really to do with the episode plot and then never appeared again

>>15337157
>Plinkett test her. She fails hard.

The Plinkett Test is basically a troll test. It purports to be a test of writing quality, but it's really testing the taker's comprehension and vocabulary. It frames itself as "simple", but it actually asks the taker to perform its task in the most unnatural way possible, then tells them that the reason they're having trouble is the writing was bad. Whatever shortcomings Jadzia had as a character - and they probably never did bring out her full potential - that's just a terrible way to try and assert it.

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>>15337329
Id love to see TMP on the big screen

>>15337494
Ah, must have missed that one. Thanks.

>>15337770
Yeah, she was supposed to be a bigger deal, even starting a romance with Geordi, but they dropped the plot because they didn't think she was his type.

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>>15337921
>Yeah, she was supposed to be a bigger deal, even starting a romance with Geordi, but they dropped the plot because they didn't think she was his type.

Which is too bad. Was pretty cute. http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Sonya_Gomez

Btw, perks (shirts, pins, the blu-ray) are still available on the DS9 Doc.

>>15337494

I respectfully disagree. I think its a sin to give every minor character (or characters with barely any screen time in the show) a huge role in the books. Star wars is an even a bigger offender of this.

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Is this a random qt extras thread?

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>yfw they replace Chekov with M'Ress in New Trek 4

>>15339390
Yeah I'm neither here nor there on her, I'm much more about the bug chick and the gangster planet guy. I think a Tellarite joins up and is an asshole to everybody, too.

>>15339494

She could conn my starship....

Wait, TNG is the early 90s right? She's probably 60.


>>15339161
>>15337921

I honestly felt Geordi was desperate enough he'd fall for anyone who looked his way.

>>15339390
I don't see the harm in it. It's not like you have to acknowledge it if you choose not to.

>>15339639
Completely agreed, especially given his fling with What's-Her-Name-The-Warp-Core-Designer in Booby Trap. I think Barclay might have been introduced partially because the writers realized they were going to ruin Geordi if they kept doing the things they wanted to him.

>>15339790

I kinda understood Barkley.

Geordi felt pitiful at tines. Falling in love with the hologram of the warp cor engineer and.then spaghetti-ing all overwhen she shows up was just....hard to watch.

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>>15314918
>Gundam
I'm usually violently averse to crossovers, but for some reason I really want this to happen.

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>>15339864
Here you go.

>>15339730

Because of how prevalent it is. Sometimes a minor character in the show is just that...a minor character. They never aspire to greatness, and they don't have some massive side story. Not everyone gets promoted to captain, or should get their own ship (looking at you Ezri Dax). As I said, Star Trek isn't as bad as Star Wars at this. I prefer original characters with human flaws. Not everyone has hidden "Jedi" potential.

>>15339390
I think it depends on how it's handled. If it's their book about their own adventures independent of the big names it can be fine.

But yeah, SW is bad about having background alien #6 turn out to personally know or be connected with all these major characters and play some major role alongside them in a big event and shit.

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>>15339494
This is the ultimate random qt to me. Selar should have be a recurring character, TNG needed more Vulcans.

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>>15340358

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>>15340360
She's even got fanart

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>>15340358
Selar was a indeed a QT

>>15340235
>Not everyone gets promoted to captain, or should get their own ship (looking at you Ezri Dax).

I did not know about that. I wish I didn't know about that now.

>As of the novel series Star Trek: Destiny, Ezri Dax has been promoted to Captain – albeit due to the deaths of her previous senior officers during a recent battle – and serves as commanding officer of the Federation starship USS Aventine.

Okay, that's actually funny for all the wrong reasons.

Still, I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with it as long as there's a good story to tell. It's just that often times favoritism seems to get in the way sometimes.

>>15340235
It kind of works better to use pre-established characters because people have a basis for imagining said character. It also tends to circumvent the "mary sue" accusations.

>>15340235
You're completely thinking of things in a Star Wars framework. Star Trek works with graduating classes, in a fair world where everyone gets a fair chance to rise up in the ranks. Even Barclay makes it up the ranks.
Thinking of things in a framework where it's millions of random strangers shifting past each other instead of some sorta extremely large extended family where the only exit is death, seems to be your issue.

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Well, since we're posting underrated background QTies...

>>15343040
the true yamato nadesico unlike evil bitch real japanese housemom mega cunt keiko

>>15314918
I know it would be bad, but I want it.

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>>15343935

>>15314927
>"Shiny exteriors imply bare metal, which is pig-disgusting because corrosion"


>Oxidation
>in a vacuum

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>>15343928
>>15343935
>>15343958
It's so EVIL

>>15343928
Was there ever an explanation given for why there's a hole in the middle of the saucer?

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Which space station design do you prefer, DS9 or B5?

>>15344566
>B5
Do you actually think B5 has anything to do with DS9 at all?

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>>15343928
>>15343935
>>15343958
>Admiral grabs smart dude from 200 years in the past
>"Use ur smarts to make me a ship 10 times more powerful than our current warships"
>Admiral's aid is all like "Sir, you realise this the equivalent to asking Leonardo Da Vinci to single-handedly build you a jet fighter."
>Smart dude considers the problem then says "have you tried just making a ship 10 times the size of your current ones"
>admiral feels completely redeemed by this, apparently so do into darkness's writers

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>>15344619
I'm just asking about the designs of the stations.

While I always liked the design of B5, I always felt that it looked way too much like a ship more than a station. There's a definite front and a back, you could slap a thruster on B5's rear and it wouldn't look at all out of place. DS9, and all stations on Trek, like K7 and Jupiter Station, actually looks like what it's supposed to be. It took years for me to see B5 as it's supposed to be seen.

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>>15344687
Do you get the same impression from looking at O'Neill cylinders in Gundam? Humans don't have gravity generators in the B5 universe, unlike Star Trek.

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>>15344566

>>15344566
DS9 by a mile
B5 isn't bad but it's kind of a pile of scifi stuff compared to the clean cardie lines of DS9

>>15344566
B5 seems more "realistic", so it's a little grittier. DS9 looks a lot more fantastical, but I think it's better from a design stand-point.

>>15344687
Did they ever do anything with all those ore processing bits?

I only recall them poking around those that episode where they accidentally set off an automated security system to put down a Bajoran revolt set up by Dukat that that their efforts to disable ultimately resulted in it going into self destruct mode leading to Dukat showing up to gloat and try to cut deals only to get trolled by an automated system set up by his old bosses to prevent him from getting away after failing to quell said revolt.

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>>15345248
>only to get trolled by an automated system set up by his old bosses to prevent him from getting away after failing to quell said revolt.
That was the best

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If you wondered what happened to the Enterprise Refit filming model built for Star Trek the Motion Picture and used in the 5 movies after that, its on display in the headquarters of Jeff Bezos' spaceflight company, Blue Origin.

It sold for 250k in the Christie's Trek auction a few years ago.

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>>15345352

>>15345352

Seems kinda odd to leave it in the open without any protection. Isn't that model 40+ years old? No glass case at least?

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>>15345352
>>15345360
>Seems kinda odd to leave it in the open without any protection.
Seriously this. I'm triggered.

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>>15345352
A nice place for it but it needs some protection.

>>15345357

That model has seen better days. It needs some protection. One intern bumps into it, and they break off a nacelle.

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I am the cutest of borg

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>>15345468
>One intern bumps into it, and they break off a nacelle.

Naw, they built it tough.
>After drawing up a set of preliminary engineering drawings with the help of Chris Ross, Dow and co. started with constructing a forty pound weighing aluminum framework, designed by Dow himself, for internal strength for the model and as a armature for mounting the finished model for filming. The armature was constructed by Chris Crumb, who laid out and assembled the basic 6061 T6 aluminum aircraft grade subframe, and Lee Ettleman who fabricated the pieces in Magicam's machineshop.

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>>15346673
What a ship.

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Which one is Noriko and which one is Onee-sama?

>>15347261
Dax can be Onee or oni samas.

Kira is a filthy goddamn bajoran so she isn't up for consideration of anything beyond biorobots and fuckmeat.

>>15347261
Kira has to be Noriko. She's the more hot-blooded of the two, and younger by far.

>>15346704
I can't understand why the beauty of the A's nacelles was never re-achieved. By comparison, everything later looks blobby (e.g. the D) or like a 40k ship that somebody filed all the spikes off (e.g. the Equinox).

>>15347345
The Equinox doesn't have anything like the gunports or solid gold aquilae to be admissable to 40k.

>>15344138
Not sure. But if you removed the upper bridge and extended the lower bridge, that's exactly what it'd look like.
Guess it just doesn't have any need for saucer seperation.

>>15343928
>it's just JJTrek Enterprise but EDGY and EBIL
lmao, how the fuck does anyone like this abomination

>>15347261
>>15347306
>>15347311
If Dax is Oneesama, then is Worf Coach? Bareil is Smith?

>>15316209
looks like a reception area desu

>>15331607
Shut up, Wesley

>>15347739
That kid is always whining about one thing or another. Better off just ignoring him.

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>>15347709
No one does. At least no one will admit to it.

You know what's really insulting though? It has better proportions than either of the JJverse Enterprises. They'll never use those design elements again. We're stuck with the arthritic swan design for the foreseeable future.

>>15347345
I agree, the Enterprise-A's nacelles are perfection. I really don't get why the style isn't prevalent.

>>15314900
all I want out of it is some nice Klingon politics and no KANGZ bullshit
nothing will ever recapture the magic of TOS or TNG because modern actors are mostly hacks

>>15314962
which will only bury it deeper

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>>15349173
>nothing will ever recapture the magic of TOS or TNG because modern actors are mostly hacks
It's all about stage actors IMO. They have a certain style of acting which really lends itself well to talking head style stories. Stage acting was a common background in classic hollywood, but not so much nowadays. But Star Trek has always been good about getting stage actors, so I hope they continue with that.

>>15347715
I think the answer you're looking for is Jadzia is Coach, Kira is Onee-sama, and Ezri is Noriko.