Front Mission Thread.

>>15302857
Isn't that the Zenith

>>15302857
You could cheese FM3 quite easily just by giving everyone a copy of Ryogo's starter Wanzer. It had good all-round performance, plus ROF Up I (for SMG and shottys) and Zoom I (for everything else).
The late game mechs you capture from the JSSDF and Imaginary Numbers are better, but Ryogo's win machine will carry you through 2/3rds of the game easily.

Does anyone else find the squad selection mechanics in 5 kind of a letdown? I mean, there are huge numbers of recruitable pilot characters, but with the exception of the main cast and the FM4 cameo none of them have their own dialogue, and given pilots in a class are only functionally distinguishable by their personality type (which isn't a huge deal, as long as they're not Aggressive you're fine) and whether or not they're S type, which just entails one class specific skill and a trade off of jamming resistance for jamming recovery. That's it, no individual stats, no individual skills, almost nothing to distinguish all these dozens of people. Valkyria Chronicles this ain't. Hell, it isn't even X-COM.

What makes it worse is the fact that characters you haven't recruited will always be lower levelled than ones you've had for a while, so there's even less motivation to switch out. You can replace your hyper Aggressive starting squad and whoever you get will be flat out superior to any non-S pilot you could obtain by dint of sheer level curve, and most of the S-rank guys are behind that as well.

On top of all that is that you're supposed to have six slots, but a third of those are always taken up by Walter and a plot mandated mechanic, which both means you have even less space for other characters, and that the entire mechanic class is relegated to the bench (because more than one mechanic is just not really necessary, especially considering you could just stick a repair pack on some other class of pilot and have them heal about as good (considering almost all the mechanic skills are geared toward tanking).

Does anyone have the translated opening and ending for front mission 2? The links in the pastebin are dead.

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>>15302857
>What Wanzer is this on the cover for Front Mission 3?

Zenith Rev

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作る国を考えろ

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The Wanzer action figures that were sold about 15 years ago were pretty cool. Good detailing and articulation.

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>>15303659

>>15303037

Yeah. Also, not being able to assemble some spare wanzers and move pilots between them and their main machines wasn't very useful too (in FM3 there were like 50 slots for that, right?)

>>15303659
>>15303667
They're expensive as fuck now though, Impossible to find a Zenith from the looks of it.

>>15303235
>Zenith Rev
I remember how US version of the game botched the name as 'Zenislev' and made me wonder how come a Wanzer made by OCU (Jade Metal-Lymann is based in Singapore as in-game website said) has Russian-sounding name.

Rifles are shit, pure shit don't use them.

>>15302857
Friendly reminder if we ever get another FM it will a shitty watered down trash filled with crappy waifus, dumbdowned mechanics, and a story so god awful it will make Evolve look good in comparison, all while furiously masturbating the useless personality-less wet noodle of a harem protag.

>>15304110
Eh, they end up being the best gunner type weapon (for all that's worth). Gattling guns have sucky accuracy that means you waste most of the shots, and bazookas are bazookas.

>>15304115
>furiously masturbating the useless personality-less wet noodle of a harem protag.
I mean you say this, but Walter was kind of a mary sue that all the NPCs kept talking about how great he was at everything and how all the ladies had the hots for him.

>>15304222
First off, Gary Sue.
Second, imagine the walter 'everyone loves him', but fifty times worse.

>>15304218
Rifles are shit in FM3, they're alright in 4 supposed to be best in 5?

>>15304229
First off, Gary Stu.

>>15304115
>dumbdowned

it's the esl again...

I tried playing the first game on DS, I got like 7 missions in before hitting a brick wall. My whole team got wrecked by missiles before I could even get into attack range.

Is it supposed o be super unforgiving or am I just doing it wrong?

>>15303037
My main problem with the game is that it has that grindy as hell VR tower. If they cut that out and had some alternative means for getting the parts you want (killing specific enemies, using specific characters, dialog, whatever), I would have enjoyed the game a lot more.

>>15304337
Honestly 1 is the worst mainline game in the franchise. The mechanics aren't as fleshed out as later games and the whole thing feels like a tedious grind.

>>15304349
MY main problem is that almost all the frame parts are locked behind newgame plus. Want to use anything besides the vanilla default wanzer for each class in either faction, plus the basic Zenith (which sucks), one Grapple and one Vyzov? Finish up bucko, you've got a whole nother playthrough to get through.

Although that honestly bothers me less than the way lower level items become unavailable in the shop as the game progresses, despite some upgrade paths being literally impossible to obtain without access to first level parts. I would have stocked up on more crappy starting shotguns if I'd known otherwise.

For all it's frustrations it's not a bad game though. It looks great, plus I'm a sucker for progression of time type stuff. That and the fact that the story afforded both multiple opportunities to drop my giant robots out of aircraft and the chance to have a mech decked out in tartan punch a nuclear missile.

>>15304260

They are okay with Arm Smash actually in FM3.

>>15304115
when hes totally correct here ._.

>>15304115
What if it's filled with Good Waifus tho?

I didn't mind Front Mission Evolved.

I thought getting out of your wanzer to fight on foot was pretty cool. Shame about everything else though

>>15306299
It felt like one of those games that would've been world's better if it was made in a post platinum world.

>>15304218
Shotgun + ROF UP I (x5) can kill or disable almost everything in FM3 in one turn.

So Emma or Alice?

>>15307800
Okay. I was referring to Gunner weapons (gatling guns, rifles, bazookas) though. I guess that's not an FM3 thing.

>>15302881
Yup, the Zenith.. the first wanzer you get that Kazuki pilots

>>15308055
Wasn't that like one of the 'best' wanzers from the previous game, but in this one its been downgraded to a starter

>>15306278
Its fucking front mission, it does not fucking NEED waifus period. Waifus are the determent to quality everywhere. It is a crutch, used by weak devs and enjoyed by weak people

>>15304115
>implying we'll ever get anything out of Squenix besides mass-produced FF-branded shovelware

>>15309065

They already said they want to bring back FM eventually. And Square makes plenty of stuff, it just never leaves Japan.

>>15308442
But good waifus though. IE Waifus that appeal to my tastes. I'm just shitposting it doesn't Need waifus. Waifus are just a bonus when it comes to FM.

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>>15302896
ROFup1 has more chain potential than higher level versions and thus a higher damage ceiling. 2/3rds is an understatement.
>>15303251
cheeky
>>15304110
They are nice in 4 and 5.
>>15307911
Emma.
>>15308442
FM 4 was a waifu paradise. It's also one of the weakest games in the franchise. The two are not necessarily connected but if we get harem mission 6 that will be sad.

>>15302896
But thats boring.

The only way to play is to put everyone in unique mechs with their own personal colour schemes.

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Emma has nice legs

Post your favorite song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvlNL9rnapM

>>15309687
Huge hands though. Someone took the wrong advice from Yoshida.

>>15310069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_322FF01Eg

Don't really think SE will make FM6, just remake 1st. Anyway, I would not even hold my breath for anything else from the series.

>>15310069
Time to jump our robots out of some planes Marines!

http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/front-mission-5-scars-of-the-war-original-soundtrack/210-flight-of-the-wyverns.mp3

Why is Kazuki such a shit? I hate him.

>>15310517
Not clicking that sorry.
>>15310767
He doesn't pick a fight with special forces for no reason in the Emma route.

Anyone else just love Front Mission: Evolved?

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>>15311687
You don't even have to use the download link, you can literally just play the track on the player. Youtube doesn't have most of 5's ost, so I had to work with what was available.

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>>15311774
I could probably throw these up on a Mega if people want it bad enough

>>15311788
Can you not Upload them to Youtube?

>>15309687
Don't Date USMC girls
They're all crazy one way or another.

I have a problem with 5, and unfortunately it's one that feels like it could be easily fixed.

It's too slow, and by that I mean everything feels like it takes forever to do.

>>15313076
The animations? Hold x to fast forward.

>>15309075

if they bring FM, mark my words that they will try to pull out some Gundam online + mechwarrior ish gameplay

>>15313167

Yeah but much like games where you have to hold X to run, it means I'm holding X all the time.

>>15313175
>Gundam Online
I'm sorta ok with that
>mechwarrior
I love MW but it doesn't fit with FM

>>15302896
I had no idea what I was doing in FM3. Everyone mysteriously got ROFUP and Zoom and some other skills that I didn't care about because they weren't free extra turns, and I did nothing to configure or level skills because I didn't know it was possible.

The Super Wanzer turned up, the game hyped the hell out of it, and Kazuki triggered a dozen skills in a row, tore both its arms off and killed it on my first move. Like, is that normal? Are skills triggered by relative strength or was it just random? It was fucking awesome but it was the only time in the game that Kazuki's skills were so completely broken.

>>15313175
They already tried that and it's what killed the franchise.

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>>15313261

>>15313177
Fine, press start to skip them then.

It's a strategy game though, it's not exactly hard on the old x pushing thumb.

>>15311788
I'd love me some more FM music. I own a legit FM 4 + 1 Disc set.

>>15304337
>Is it supposed o be super unforgiving or am I just doing it wrong?

You're probably doing it wrong yes. You say you got wrecked by missiles which suggests you were not wrecking with missiles yourself, the #1 rule of FM1 is Everyone Gets Missiles. Everyone, even if it's just one launcher. Egrets mainly, as they remain good for a large portion of the game.

>>15313177
>>15313333
Pretty sure there's an option to make fast speed the default, with holding X slowing it down to normal.

>>15315560
You don't need missiles for everyone in FM1 but properly identifying and equipping your missile users is important.

>>15309680
My nigga

>Kazuki
>Shotgun & Fist
>Green

>Ryogo
>M.Gun & M.Gun or Shield
>Brown

>Emma/Alisa
>Missile & Shield, Item pack
>White/Yellow

>Liu/Dennis
>Rifle & Shield
>Black

>Pham/Whoever
>Axe & Axe or Shield
>Red

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>>15312896
Can confirm, Lynn was unhinged enough BEFORE some bright spark put her in charge of an entire aircraft carrier and made her mad with power.

Fuck square for releasing 4 in america but not europe

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>>15303659
>>15303667
FUCKING AWESOME, damn I cannot believe we missed this in america
fuck

>>15311788
I would love that man

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>>15304115
you mean like the game that came out on xbox 360 made by double helix?

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>>15317760
>>15317769

>>15316629

This was basically my setup too, just with different colors.

Unpopular opinion: I like Front Mission going Third Person Shooter with Evolved. However I will still say the gameplay and story is trash. Gameplay wise Evolved is a watered down Online without any of the basics in good TPS gameplay, combat is too easy, health and ammo pickups everywhere

And story is obvious because Motomu Toriyama can go fuck himself.

>>15316963
I thought there was a European version of 4. Wasn't it less censored?

>>15304115
But FM3 and FM4 had tons of waufus

>>15317760
>>15317769
>>15317776
why can't I find these online I wish this game got translated.

>>15310069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf_BlNF3atA

>>15320752
I knowright
so hard to get the cut scenes in really good quality

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Survival Bump

It's been a long time since the big new game rumor. If it's happening it's probably going to be a big game.