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Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

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Episode 46 - Ver. 3.0
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>>15284221
>a mad fujoshit actually took the time on photoshop to make this picture
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>>15284221
hey you put some effort in the OP image for once. good on you
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We did it!!!!!!
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FINALLY not a thread with shitty MikaxAtra artwork for OP picture

Also, mass MA overkill is now much more likely due to the fact, that final final battle will be taking place on Mars.
And it's really fascinatng to see that Rustal is always one step ahead of Choco, wish that Choco would use his brain for once in a while becauseI'm rooting for him to win the show
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The midgets are reproducing! Help!
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>>15284221
> that pic
10/10
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>>15284221
>Complaining about plot armor only when it happens to antagonists
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>This thread
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>>15284221
>Iok Tatsuya
>Rustal Yamato
>Julieta Uzumaki
>Gaelio Kirigaya

>and together they form Aspull's Team

Perfect anon
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>>15284252
There were complaints back then, but now they're acting like Tekkadan doesn't have any.
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>>15284221
10/10 OP
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I was bored. Scheme concept seems nice.
Never recoloured with image editing much, sorry for quality and the eye.

Also, wouldn't Kimaris Vidar have the standard white blue and yellow seen with the other Gundam's if that was the war version?
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>>15284240
Don't worry, soon it will back down to two again. Universe strives for balance.
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>>15284221
Pretty sure murder midget just knocked up Atra. His plot armor is gone.
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>>15284289
Wouldn't Julieta get the flauros while Iok just goes and gets his family gundam frame?
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>>15284250
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>>15284221
Iok can't be Jesus since he can't actually get shit done.
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>julieta won't go Ein route
>she'll stay human
thats good and all but how she going to do that without a machine. does Rustal have another 3 or 4 super bots just laying around? he had Kimaris Vidar armor just laying around.
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>>15284280
Just like people were complaining about Rustal using dansliefs when just the week before they were going on about how Tekkadan were going to use dansliefs in order to avenge the Turbines.

I really get sick of this when discussing IBO. People want to favor one side or the other when there are numerous parallels between the two.
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It all keeps tumbling down for my boy Choco.

In other news, it's good to know that the final battle will take place on Mars.

When was the last Gundam finale that wasn't set in Space? Turn A?
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>>15284324
G-Reco was around the ruins of Jaburo.
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>>15284324
00's last throwdown was on the moon
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>>15284308
Rustal and Iok should both have gundam frames and they scavenged Flauros
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>>15284289
Delet
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>>15284234
What did he mean by this?
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>>15284324
The Gundam right before this one.
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>>15284308
They will repair Flauros and give it to her, probably. Seeing monkey in that suit will trigger Mika later and he'll become a full demon.

>inb4 fanfiction
You just fucking know that they'll do something to Flauros, there's obvious plot motivation behind Mika being unable to retrieve it.
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>>15284221
>Julieta survives Mika's trademark mace stab but this time with an even bigger fuck off mace
>McGillis' hand wound acts up just in time to take a drill to the face

I know the situation needs to look dire for the final fight but have mercy.

Also, RIP Helmwige we hardly knew ye. Isurugi was a cool guy in the end, though.
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>>15284234
Did what? Are you that moron thinking there is pregnancy despite literally zero evidence?
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>>15284308
Probably, yes. The Reginlaze is a new model of mobile suit that his faction is developing, there are more of them available. Modifying it to the same specs as the Julia would take a while, but is certainly possible.
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>>15284240
>no evidence
/a/ pls go
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>>15284250
what scene is this from
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>>15284343
Honestly the Turn A out of the ground wouldn't do any good. It was physically weaker than the Borjarnons and the IBO suits have strong anti-beam armor.
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>>15284234
Nothing happened
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>>15284308
The Julia wasn't THAT advanced when you think about it. It's basically the same Reginlaze with some additional trim and leg extensions.

>>15284343
As much as I would like to see another Gundam or two, it's so late that I doubt it'll happen. Iok also happens to be the most appropriate pilot for the Flauros in-series, ironically enough given his shit aim, since he's the only guy we've seen take the artillery role consistently. Everyone else likes to get up close in this series.
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>>15284345
>Isurugi was a cool guy in the end, though.
Not sure I agree, he was pretty much a mashup of Biscuit's brother and Ein.
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>>15284252
There is only one antagonist in that pic, though.
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Big question here: How the fuck did they reach Mars so quickly? The time it takes for a modern-day real life spaceship to reach Mars is about 6 months, and that's only when the planets are perfectly aligned. IBO spaceships don't seem to have any warp drives or hyperspace engines or anything either. So then how did they reach Mars in what seems like a few days at most? Hell, given the progress of repairs, it looks like they made the trip in a few hours.
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>>15284382
stop it anon, you're using rational logic in a MUH EMOSHUNS anime
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>>15284350
Is this the new “Yamagi is not gay!”, don’t worry we will find out soon
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>>15284295
I know, I just made this based on what others joked/theorised with.
A more "likely" one?
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>>15284382
Ahab Reactors dude, ain't gonna explain shit.
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>>15284221
I can just imagine some autist feeling very productive and clever making this image.
How did this person not kill himself for being so easily triggered is beyond me, god bless his soul.
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>>15284382
Old Turbines space roads.
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>>15284374
His backstory of believing that even a nobody like him could be someone worthy of respect in McGillis' perfect world just got to me man.
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>>15284399
But how can Turbines trade routes bend space and time to either shrink the Solar System or teleport ships across the distances between planetary orbits? Even with special routes, distance is distance.
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>>15284382
Intentionally vague timeskips.

I think NASA or someone like that mentioned it's possible to get to Mars in under 3 months. So for a civilization that colonized Mars maybe it's a few weeks?
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found this on /qa/
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>lost most of his fleet
>lost his second in command with a Valkyrie frame
>was stripped of his ranked
>tekkadan lost half of its fleet, a ship and a gundam frame
>not looking good on the mars front
>Rustal and friends sitting pretty
not sure how Macky and Tekkadan will get out of this one.
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>>15284408
And Rustal tries to uphold the Status Quo McGillis is trying to break...

Honestly Gjallarnhorn and the current state of humanity is responsible for creating McGillis in the first place.

>>15284411
Can very well be that the people doing the show skipped two weeks, which is why it looks like it was instantaneous.
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>>15284382
According to ep 30, it takes them three weeks to get from mars to earth. We know that days have passed between the battle and when Gaelio talks to Julieta, and the only scene we have that's definitely at or near Mars is the talk between McGillis and the Mars branch at the end. I don't think we can suggest a compressed timeline here, because Rustal is not in any rush to go and get McGillis and Tekkadan.
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>>15284382
Barbatos looks like it was completely overhauled in Orga's and Mika's conversation at the end of the episode, so I think we can assume a timeskip of a few weeks.
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>>15284424
>at least 3 weeks have pasted
>more than enough time for Iok and Rustal to get their gundam frames from headquarters
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>>15284419
>Macky
He won't
>Tekkadan
Kudelia will negotiate with Rustal with her SUGOI jew magic and make him spare Tekkadan.
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>zooms in on flauros being blown away
they're totally doing something with that frame huh? theres nothing left of it besides to torso so what could anyone do with it?
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>>15284425
Mika took basically no damage, it'd take them a day at most to patch up whatever scratches he got.

>>15284428
It'll be more than three weeks before they fight, however, just look at >>15284382 where it shows that McGillis & Co. will be at Mars while Arianrhod hasn't left the Earth sphere. Gives us a good six weeks or so between the end of the battle in 46 and the confrontation on Mars. More than enough time to grab whatever Gundams are left in the hangars, rescue the Seven Stars guys, repair the Flauros, and hit McGillis and Tekkadan with everything Gjallarhorn has.
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>>15284431
Will Kudelia please Rustal for peace?
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>>15284435
Patchwork repair it with Graze and Vidar parts, give it to Julieta and make it fueled by the tears of fujoshi and fag shippers.

Even though Julieta herself did nothing wrong.
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>>15284442
Why would Rustal care about Kudelia when he's got excellent monkey tail in reach?
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>>15284435
The torso houses the ahab reactors, the special element of the Gundams are their synchronized reactors. The cockpit would also house the main computer of the suit, giving whomever gets it access to whatever data is onboard. Data like how to manufacture the appropriate parts for the suit.

Remember that Teiwaz made a Dainslief based on the Flauros' internal schematics for one. Gjallarhorn probably has all that shit on record, but having direct access from the suit is still probably beneficial in some way.
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>Reality isn't fantasy

Finally, the cast has to wise up to a coherent plot point and finally end the shitsho-

>Choco: Let me into Mars to continue my dreams, Rustal Loyalist

Anyone have an Atra version of pic?
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>>15284419
You don't get it, anon.

They more that they push McGillis against a wall the more likely he is to come out on top.
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Monkey still survives.

Rustal fleet still has all the banned weapons and numbers advantage.

Macky decides to activate a Mobile Armor his teams had hidden on Mars
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>>15284400
>tfw
>>15284428
And to properly outfit them too.
>>15284435
Confirmation of death, Sequel bait, foreshadowing possible frame recovery and set bait, you name it
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>>15284442
source
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>>15284348
there is no single moron dipshit
there are countless morons thinking this and they're all correct
atra had a 3way with barbatos and mika
she is pregnant
DEAL WITH IT AND KEEP CRYING
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>>15284435
Shino's alive, Rustal turns him into the cyborg Ryusei Go and Tekkadan will force Orga to negotiate with Rustal for the safe return of Ryusei Go
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>Bael controls MAs
but Rustal has Iok.

picture Iok in a gundam frame with illegal weapons. remember Iok was able to shoot the Hashmal with just a Reginlaze gun easily multiple times
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>>15284463
Iok a is magnificent pilot, to be honest.

Better than Shino, for example.
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>>15284463
That was apparently a railgun.
Now if they only recover the Super Galazy Cannon's schematics or let him use a Dansleif railguns and the rounds then then.
How shit were these legal ones?
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>>15284234
>We did it!!!!!!

Typical Okada asspull. Hey girl wanna have babies ? Yeah sure man, wait a second, ok here goes. And people take this shit seriously.
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>>15284463
>remember Iok was able to shoot the Hashmal with just a Reginlaze gun easily multiple times
I don't think hitting the MA was difficult, nobody else seemed to have that problem.
And Iok was implied to be a bad shot a couple times.
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She wants the G
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>>15284468
Certainly better at aiming, that's for sure.
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>>15284481
If that tub was not already full, it would be now.
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>>15284463
This will happen:
>Gali kills Macky.
>Yazmin repairs the Gundam.
>Iok takes control of Bael.
>Somehow activates his hidden hability: Every MA will obey him.
>Iok becomes the lord of the universe and wins the Julieta bowl.
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>>15284345
>Isurugi was a cool guy
he was a guy in a horned ms with a fuckhuge sword WHICH HE NEVER SWUNG AT ANYTHING
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>>15284481
So hold on, which wounds does she actually have?
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>>15284491
Apparently the horns were conductors for some kind of shock attack that they never used. According to the gunpla manual. Way to not do anything.
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>>15284324
Reconguista you numbskull.
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>>15284382
Wait, I'm asking Varys.
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>>15284355
>It was physically weaker than the Borjarnons

WTF are you on about?
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>>15284497
AND the sword's handle had a club attached to the end of it that could be separated, which he never used. RIP Isurugi, you never used any of your mobile suit's gimmicks.
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>>15284478
you done?
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>>15284498
no one watched that
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>>15284221
>literally the first time Tekkadan didn't score a clear and decisive win against a bigger force
>HAXXXXXXXXXX!

These people are just the worst with how oblivious they are.
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>yagami showed an emotion other than "bone me shino"
wow
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>>15284516
I did. It was good.
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>>15284514
>you done?

Maybe, maybe not.
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>>15284463
I am seeing Iok in Flauros redeeming himself by hunting down MAs.
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>>15284516
As expected of people who can't even use punctuation.
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>>15284419
>not sure how Macky and Tekkadan will get out of this one.
The end of the episode and the scenes with Orga and Mika confirmed it - Orga and Tekkadan will go full RAISE YOUR FLAG and bum-rush Mars branch and make them surrender or just checkmate them really quickly.
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>>15284526
no one believes you
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>>15284536
so they beat mars branch, which was said by macky not to be a very large group. only 40 ms. tekkadan will lose more of its MSs in this fight only to deal with a refreshed and restocked Rustal invasion.
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>>15284544
>tekkadan will lose more of its MSs in this fight only to deal with a refreshed and restocked Rustal invasion.
Beat Mars branch, tell Martians they're free and if they want to stay free they ought to follow them (Kings of Mars shit) and fight with them against Rustal in a guerrilla war. They've got the home turf advantage.
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>>15284327
>>15284341
>>15284498
In my defense, you can't blame me for trying to forget Reconquista's rushed finale.
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I M M O R T A L
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>>15284544
mika will solo all of them
he killed the defense force at vingolf solo
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>>15284549
I doubt martians have a bunch of MS just laying around. if they did that Rustal would be even more justified in his assault against McGillis.
>steals bael
>starts a coup
>starts a rebellion on mars
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Alright /m/ tell me your guess on how IBO will end.
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>>15284566
>I doubt martians have a bunch of MS just laying around
Ok. I clearly see thinking is not your strong suit.
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>>15284559
A stinky defense for a stinky idiot.
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>>15284278
>filename + pic
Tulpa please, I told you not in front of strangers.
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>>15284569
With a duel 3 vs 3.
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>>15284569

Kudelia saves the day, Atra has Mika's baby, corn soup.
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I went from NieR Automata to fucking this. At least this is getting somewhat better. However this shit show ends, all I want is Rustal to end up at the end of Bael's sword.
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>>15284526
>>15284542
I do, because I did as well
It was better than this
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Julieta does pretty well for someone with no AV system
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>>15284571
>I clearly see thinking is not your strong suit.
you think a bunch of martian civilians have mobile suits just laying around the yard? its not like they can fight Gjallahorn or did you forget about how well the dort colonists did against an armed gjallahorn force? they got fucked

not only that not every martian would rally behind mcgillis' bael either they ain't gjallahorn and why would they rally behind a broken tekkadan on their last leg?
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>>15284481

>This treatment isn't fluid therapy, i was drenched the moment you walked through the door and i'm being restrained down for my own good

Stupid sexy Gali
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>Everyone knows Yamagi is a raging homosexual
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>>15284583
That's not a spoiler
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>>15284496

Probably some internal injuries and sharpnel wounds
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>Julietta can 1v1 Mika an entire episode
>this episode he kills her in 20 seconds

Nice writing Okada.
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>>15284587
The Dort guys with suits got fucked pretty hard as well.
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Seems like that anon saying Julietta is Okada's self-insert was true.
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>>15284496
They don't want you to know. Yet.
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>>15284596
>Julietta can 1v1 Mika when he's worried about other things
>Mika spergs out and destroys her in 20 seconds
Not the same thing at all.
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>>15284600
Julietta? I thought it was Atra.
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>>15284596
Her mobile suit was almost destroyed.
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Is Isurugi the biggest jobber in all of Gundam?
He has a custom mobile suit specifically for him made with super rare alloy from the lost technology age with this fuckhuge surfboard sword and then he's only in two fights, one where he stands around like a retard only existing to give his sword to someone who actually uses it, and in the second he stands there like Gohan going "t-they're too fast" and then dies instead of using his giant sword to block.

Fucking
stupid
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>>15284348
lmao what the fuck else would it mean
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Why is Shoko such a failure? The guy is almost Zeheart level of retarded by now.
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>>15284616
Choco has the right intentions, his actions are just dumb.
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>>15284616

I, for one, pretty much am just watching at this point to see Tekkadan and Choco getting their dreams dismantled in front of their eyes.
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>>15284616
>loses a sword to Gali
>isn't even Bael's sword
>Baels only hidden gimmick seems to be some guns in the backpack
So, uh, remind me how this thing is supposed to be amazing again? Because right now, it's less impressive than the Barbatos from the beginning of the series.
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>>15284619
>Choco has the right intentions
Except that's not the case since his plans are just a smokescreen excuse to live his chuuni fantasies. Do you people stop understanding this spoonfeeding show the moment they don't stop in their tracks to carefully spell shit out loud?
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>>15284496
They had to remove her ___womb___
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>>15284622
He was about to kill Gaelio before his hand injury
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In IBO it's easier find a Gundam Frame in your backyard than an strategists, that was Tekkadan's problem.
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>>15284622

It's not supposed to be amazing. This is something a lot of retards don't seem to understand. Bael is really fucking unimpressive. Its only gimmick is atmospheric flight. It doesn't even have its own weapons.

Bael is literally the IBO RX-78-2, it's only famous because Agnigger Kaieru was the Calamity War Amuro so it's the MS of the hero. It's like if you got George Washington's gun or something. Once you get past the symbolic aspect it's just a shitty old gun.
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>>15284622
Literally the Gundam version of the Grimgerde. A lighter mobile suit. In a one vs one has the advantage. It's a great matchup for a less agile Kimaris.
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So, we'll never see the full version of that flashback that they always show with orga and mika as kids?
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>>15284636
>I have George Washington's gun
>everyone listen to me
>I will now go to the front lines and fight with George Washington's gun
sounds much dumber now
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this design is really growing on me
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>>15284596
you're literally as retarded as mal
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>>15284636
But Agnigger used it until his death sometime after forming the group and ending it.
For all we know his weaponry was good and his skill subsituted for the outdated nature (even to the other 71, not just the overhauled ones) of his MS.
However, Bael's state may be what it was last fixed as, shit must've been changing through the war, and as you said, pulling out an untouched relic fucks things up.
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>>15284636
Yeah, no. It's a fucking Gundam. In this universe those are the most powerful units.
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Nothing is more satisfying than a self-righteous speech being interrupted by a mace to the gut.
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>>15284654
I understand why they went with the black legs, but it would have been better without them. They should have just given this Kimaris the Ein eye or dual axes instead.
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>>15284633
lets be honest here McGillis at most would have damaged the Kimaris, we see Kimaris blocking all sorts of attacks from all angles. not only that Kimaris was ready for a counter attack with his drill knee, if anything that hand injury saved McGillis from Kimaris and not the other way around.
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>>15284636
Na, Bael is definitely going to have some gimmick involving MAs.
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>>15284658

Yes, but people are making it sound like the thing is King of Gundams. It's not, it was just piloted by the GOAT and his reputation carries it. The unit itself is not special.

>>15284657

Sure, the thing might have had some mega beam rifle that kills everything including nanolaminate. It might have had a lightsaber and Agnigger was a Jedi. We don't know. But it seems like it was never all that impressive for a Gundam because it was the first and basic. It was likely carried by Agnika's skill.
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>>15284659
I bet you liked Sekai and his cronies trying to interrupt the transformation sequence as well you utter faggot.
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>>15284633
No. You should rewatch that scene again. Gaelio wanted a more closed combat to use the knee-drill of the Kimaris. He should have won.
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>>15284622

You didn't notice Bael had significantly more mobility than Kimaris?

I'm kind of wondering what the fuck happened to all the trans-am esque speed Vidar had. There's a lot of inconsistency here. Even with 2 shields attached, it should still be fast in 0g
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>next episode is a no action episode

make it stop
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>Bael gimmick meme

It's a prototype status symbol at best. He's running Excalibur towards an artillery range.
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>>15284672
I remember people calling IBO "brave" for "daring" not to have fight scenes every episode.
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>>15284658
Does things to my dick
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>>15284221
There is no way that Shino is dead. He was attached to alaya whatever system so his consciousness resides now in whatever is left of Flauros. He will be recovered, repaired and given to monkey or idiok. During one of the last battles while one of them is fighting Mika, Shino will awaken and rip him/her out of his cockpit and start wrecking Rustal's lackeys.
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>>15284616
>Why is Shoko such a failure?
She has brain problems, we've been over this.
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Think the final battle is going to take place in space or on Mars?
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>>15284491
Not to mention his final words basically boiled down to "I was poor and because I was poor I had no dreams of my own. McGillis's words gave me dreams and I will serve him loyally, even if those dreams end up killing many people. Rich white boys like you wouldn't understand my pain, so check your privilege."

This series is Tumblr's wet dream.
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>>15284672
>make it stop


Why ? Stopping it won't suddenly turn it into a good show. Just enjoy the stupid trainwreck to the end. The days of Seed/Destiny/Age being considered the worst of the worst Gundam shows are coming to and end. We have the absolute new winner : IBO. I think Sunrise is going to have a fucking hard time trying to do something shittier than IBO for next 10 generations and Okada should never ever again be allowed to work in anime.
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>>15284435
Iok is getting Type S AV system
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Why do people think that Almiria's wound saved Macky?

Macky had the sword that was in his good hand and still missed.
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>>15284670
For a unit with a heavy setup, Kimaris is absurdly agile, but Bael is just the best in that regard.
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Why didn't Mika go autismmode?
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>>15284690
Tumblr gives almost no fucks about ibo though.
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>>15284694
Why do people want Iok to get Flauros when his family has a Gundam
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>>15284682
and people complain about "delusional gaeliofags and their retarded headcannon"
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>>15284646

When you put it like that McGillis sounds mentally retarded.
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>>15284691
You are 100% correct, we'd move to that state much faster if not for G-Reco shitters (I say this as someone that didn't give a fuck of G-Reco)
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>>15284691
>destiny fanboys come out of their caves after smelling blood

It's still better than that hot trash
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>>15284702
well i personally want to see the Kujan family gundam waaaay more than a repainted Flauros.
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>>15284654

Yep, the legs still look off putting though so i can understand with the scheme criticism at least.

But otherwise a real solid design. And the drill knees are actually very dangerous considering this episode and last.
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>>15284701
Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot how despitehow people say it's super popular (IT WAS ON TOONAMI GUYS!), IBO is nowhere near as big as they think. Protip: Just because some online anime communities like the show doesn't mean it's popular, just look at Jojo.
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>>15284724

I think even the legs would look okay if it just had different feet.
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>>15284704
It's not that improbable.
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>>15284724
At the end, what truly matters is his functionality.

Kimaris is probably the best Gundam of this show.
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>>15284706
The entire point is that he is fucking retarded. They justapoxed his little Liberty Leading the People pose against him getting his shit pushed in and his fantasy crumbling.

Every single one of his plans have fallen to shit and everyone knows it but he insists it'll all work out because MUH BAEL and SOUL OF AGNIKA. Rustal has been mocking him left and right since his declaration of revolution and even pointed out that McGillis doesn't understand the difference between history and legend.

I can hardly believe it, you stupid fuckers are actually too dumb for fucking IBO. /m/ is high on the list of things that ought to go extinct.
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>>15284722
>Wanting another new frame design to be wasted than having an underused one get more spotlight
Unless all the family machines arrive now that Choco is kicked out.
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>>15284622
Agnika fought unarmed so Washio thought about adding fist weapons but then he learned McGillis was going to be the pilot so the twin swords were added

Washio also noted that the repeated upgrades for the Barbatos and Kimaris made them superior to Bael, with Kimaris being the strongest Gundam overall since Barbatos is too specialized
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>>15284738
G-Reco is easier to understand than this
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>>15284743
Since Iok actually has a family gundam frame why not? Give Julieta the handme down flauros.


though to be honest I'd rather her get Rustal's family gundam. just think of how much "muh rustal-sama" we'd get an episode
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>>15284744
That's nice. So does that mean Agnika didn't do any direct fighting?
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>>15284750
please no, she'd go on a 20 minutes rant about rustal sama giving her his gundam as her cockpit is flooded by her own bodily fluids
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>>15284753
>fought unarmed
>didn't do any direct fighting
are you completely illiterate you blithering baboon
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>>15284750
It feels like such a waste if we don’t see Iok and Rustal family Gundams, but it seems that will be the case
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>We are now at second season.
>Lafter dies.
>Shino dies
>Azee is still suffering sever trauma.
>And Gali? He should have died in 1st seasson, but jesus's plot armor brought him back to life for 2nd season, it received a Gundam and spull powerups
>Why doesn't anyone die in Rustal's team?
>Iok survives the death three times + fucking plot armor
>Julieta survives the death two times + fucking plot armor
>Rustal survives the death

Why are galifag so desperate?
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>>15284345
>Julieta survives Mika's trademark mace stab but this time with an even bigger fuck off mace
>McGillis' hand wound acts up just in time to take a drill to the face

>>15284633
>He was about to kill Gaelio before his hand injury

why do galifags keep ignoring It?
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>>15284753
he wrestled MAs barehanded.
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>>15284744
>Agnika fought unarmed

What? Did he just MMA all the mobile armors into submission?
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>>15284767
>>15284345
The mace didn't directly hit the cockpit
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>>15284633
he was about to dodge a knee drill
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>>15284754
>>15284754
>she'd go on a 20 minutes rant about rustal sama giving her his gundam as her cockpit is flooded by her own bodily fluids
which is why i want it. it'd be glorious
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>>15284744
Remind me how they can't make new Gundams when they can make perfectly good Ahab reactors and upgrade their existing Gundams to the point they're superior to their original forms?
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>>15284744
>Agnika fought unarmed
Sauce?
Also this guy sounds rad. Several Whiskers in going G-gundam on fuckers, why isn't he our MC?
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>>15284592
>>Everyone knows Yamagi is a raging homosexual
Everyone has eyes!
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>>15284783

Dual Ahab reactor setup is probably considered an lost art after 300 years
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Chocofags are so deluded.
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>>15284792
I doubt it takes that much effort to just stick two reactors in a MS. They literally stuck extra reactors into the Vidar to hide the Kimaris's reactor signature.
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Is Orga S2 Kudelia? It feels like he makes a decision and then loses confidence again and again
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>>15284446
That monkey tail is for the handsome scar faced fellow
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>>15284767
>Mcgillis tried to kill Gaelio
>why do galifags keep ignoring It?
Oh wow, that is a big deal. This is like, what, the third time this happened?
So what exactly should we be freaking out about?
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>4 episodes left and you can count Kudelia's screentime in minutes on one hand

Why Okada, I loved her in S1 and she got written out
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>>15284796
The difference here is that Orga is receiving putdowns after putdowns for his lackluster decision making skills.
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>>15284800
>I loved her in S1
you were the only one
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>>15284800
You deserve adequate frustration to make up for your shit taste.
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>>15284800
The Monkey steal her screentime.
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>>15284327
>G-Reco was around the ruins of Jaburo.

holy shit I still forget that G-Reco is a UC Gundam show and not some random AU
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>>15284789
This may be hinting that he might have some MA mind control gimmick. So he might have tamed one and used it to kill other MAs.

Sounds like Shingeki no Kyojin.
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>>15284744
>mfw Bael actually has a Shining Finger mechanism built into it, and Choco just doesn't know how to use it
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>>15284811
Bael fucking rode tamed MAs into battle, unarmed
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>>15284766
(You) can't just make a tl;dr post with nonsensical aggregations of opinions and call it bait. Please work harder next time.
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>>15284795
I think the rarity comes in some twin reactor syncronised setup, like how twin GN drives(Reborns) were rare, but multiples are more common(Arche and Susanoo, Alvaaron).
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>>15284592
Not everyone
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>>15284812
I'm pretty sure Macky's been on the receiving end of enough fingers to have learned how to use one
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>>15284560

>please please PLEASE buy the Reginlaze Julia even though it's over-designed shit.
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What I'd give to hear Ein yell "KOODELLIA AINA BARNSTEIN" again.
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>>15284588
2 seconds later she said

i will lose or something close to that
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>>15284817
Just noticed that if you don't think Yamagi is gay /a/ will get their collective underpants in a twist. Why do they care so much?
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>>15284821
She said "even if I die I'll win"
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>>15284616
his stupid loli wife stabbed his hand so he's basically piloting 1 handed
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>>15284819
>over designed
Is this the "forced animation" of /m/?
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>>15284795
>>15284783
>>15284816
Main issue is Syncing them to run, which was hard to the point of only 72 Gundam.
But they have like 6-7 known, plus others floating around in space or on planets, Gjallarhorn have all the remaining data on pre disaster era events and data, the schematics of gundam a on said machines and yet no one has been able to replicate or create a mock/inferior copy?
Meanwhile AV surgery had been maintained for 300 years, and radically progressed in 2.
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>>15284827

Its design is busy as fuck and you know it.
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>>15284674
photoshop a drill in place of the gun
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>>15284289
>>15284386
Ryusei flauros was a mistake

>>15284654
>this design is really growing on me
came here to post this
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>>15284699
he's been slowly dying since ep2 when he connected to barbie
his brain is fried
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>>15284833

Literally the only thing I'd change about it is the V-fin. Otherwise it's a fantastic design.
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>>15284289
>>15284386
I figure it would have more black and purple since there are Vidar parts presumably laying around.
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>>15284841
Post yfw the drill is actually a massive dremel tool for stripping away nano laminate so the secret beam cannon in the forehead can score easy kills
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>>15284824
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>>15284815
facts = nonsensical aggregations of opinions
Jesus
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What is the meaning of this weird framing?
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>>15284825
they have magical bathtubs that regenerate internal injuries and people getting squashed inside cockpits, could'nt he dip his hand in one of those for a bit?
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>Something seems different about you Atra

What did Hush mean by this?
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>>15284870
She is a woman now
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>>15284870
She shaved.
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>>15284876
Her mustache?
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>>15284870
She wasn't carring Burritos around.
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>>15284864
Almost certain that isn't how that shit works
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>>15284766
>hand 100% good
Result...

>This sword by directly piercing the cockpit
It reminds me of Shinn and Kira
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>>15284419
"This was the ultimate solution Gaelio"
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>>15284767
>galifags
I'd like to know what show they're watching.
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>>15284883
Yeah, let's go with that.
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>>15284876
What a slut.
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>>15284863
An attempt at being artsy.
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>>15284897
Boku no pico
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>>15284918
Better than IBO, to be damn honest.
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>>15284892
I thought that guy from Front Mission piloted Graze Ein?
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>>15284875
Sauce?
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>>15284841
The model kit colors for the Kimaris vidar and Calamity War Flauros both have similar white and blue colour schemes.
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>>15284953
Graze Ein would be more in line with what happened to Glen Duval @ the end of FM5. Gaelio would be Driscoll with Karen's brain.
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>>15284957
It's from a doujin.
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>>15284965
Wow, no fucking shit, Sherlock.
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I'll laugh if Rustal survives all this. I want to see McGillis fags tears. They've drank his kool-aid just like poor Isirigi from the colonies.
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>>15284890
When you remember that the cockpit in the Freedom was in the chest and not in the waist like most MS in CE Kira's survival does actually make some sense.
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>>15284972
It would be glorious to see another grimdark "middle finger to you" ending on Gundam.
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>>15284968
You do also realize that this being a blue board you can get banned for posting the source to that?
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>>15284970
they'll both die, epilogue will be Iok literally watching the world burn
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>>15284833
>WAHHH WHY CAN'T THINGS BE SIMPLE LIKE OTHER GUNDUMBS IN THE END GAME LIKE THE TOTALLY NOT OVER DESIGNED LUPUS REX OR KIMARIS VIDAR WAAH WAHH
Fuck off my dude.
Is this your first gundam show you've seen in the last 20 years?
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>>15284798

This, Gali shitters are hilariously in denial at this point.
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>>15284980
Just give the title then, fucking retard.
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>>15284980
H-doujin titles and links are dropped all the time on blue boards, faggot.
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>>15284841
>>15284724
>>15284654

I look at this design and can't help but think to myself:

THIS is what Throne Ein should have been in Gundam 00.
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It felt so weird seeing someone be so competent in Tekkadan for once. Since when did Eugene get his old personality back? And if he was so capable all along, why the fuck didn't he step up before? In one episode he had more initiative and handled things better than Orga did a whole season.

Kill this asshole for sitting and doing nothing when he could have changed everything.
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>>15285012
Did you watch the episode? He said he couldn't stand up to Orga, he didn't have it in him to crush Orga's dreams by telling things to his face. Biscuit did that job and then he died.
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>>15285012
Okada should have sent him to earth and only make him come back for the final battle.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PutOnABus
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>>15284616

Nobody is Zeheart or Chronicle levels of failure yet in this series sadly.

Sort of blatantly apparent McGillis' desperation here will lead to him doing something evil and drastic on Mars no doubt.
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>>15284511
>RIP Isurugi, you never used any of your mobile suit's gimmicks.
Truly he was... A Sword Rack.

>>15284533
>I am seeing Iok in Flauros redeeming himself by hunting down MAs.
>>15284692
>Iok is getting Type S AV system
So is THIS the set up for the Movie?
Because I would totally watch that.

>>15284654
DOS SHIELD WINGS!!!

They even have guns in them, don't they?

>>15284665
>Na, Bael is definitely going to have some gimmick involving MAs.
Well there is the triangle power symbol we keep seeing...

>>15284726
Hey man it sells plastic Model Kits, that's all Bandai cares about.
And they're actually GOOD Model Kits at that.

>>15284727
>I think even the legs would look okay if it just had different feet.
The kit shows that the feet can actually splay semi-flat, so they are essentially articulated claws heels.

>>15284811
>This may be hinting that he might have some MA mind control gimmick. So he might have tamed one and used it to kill other MAs.
>>15284814
>Bael fucking rode tamed MAs into battle, unarmed
Hell, this may have been a manufactured conflict from the get-go, seeing as both Gundams and Mobile Armors have that same triangular power/A symbol.

>>15284829
>Main issue is Syncing them to run, which was hard to the point of only 72 Gundam.
>But they have like 6-7 known, plus others floating around in space or on planets, Gjallarhorn have all the remaining data on pre disaster era events and data, the schematics of gundam a on said machines and yet no one has been able to replicate or create a mock/inferior copy?
>Meanwhile AV surgery had been maintained for 300 years, and radically progressed in 2.
Well there hasn't been much of a point really, remember Mobile Suits in general were in a huge decline in usage at the start of this series due to Gjallarhorn controlling Ahab Reactor production in the first place.
Why bother to go to the extra effort to create a super unit when your Grunt is already superior to most anything that'd be used against you?
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>>15285012
Eugene loves and admires Orga, and said he deeply understands where he comes from. It's why it was too hard for him to say certain things to him, because of his personal feelings there. He absolutely is a more capable leader than Orga in a lot of ways, and they could have been stronger leaders together if Eugene was more honest with him, but he wasn't.
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As much as people in the group like him, it is Orga's shitty leadership that fucked them like this and most probably will end it for good.
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>about to fight the final battle of our lives
>gay kid spergs at me to fuck his asshole
>kill myself rather than actually deal with the drama when i come back
Did Shino do the right thing?
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>>15284491
I'm sure mech in actual Gundam commercial clips do more shit than whatever helmwige did in the show itself.

>>15284690
Isurugi was a shitty irrelevant character. Them trying to dump any sense of depth at the very last second is a travesty like only Japan would dare shit up.
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>>15284738
>/m/ is high on the list of things that ought to go extinct
You're pointing your finger at animesuki stowaways.
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>>15285056
>it is Orga's shitty leadership that fucked them like this and most probably will end it for good
As Eugene pointed out in a previous episode, they're as guilty as him for dumping all the responsibility on his shoulders.
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>>15285102
Yes I agree, but, he is a very centralizer boss anyway.
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Why do everyone think they (team meat) are gonna use the flauros?
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>>15285117
>Red
That's pink.
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>>15285079
remember when people thought helmwige was going to be Rustal's ms and he was going to be badass on it?
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>>15285134
Why did they even bother with slapping a shitton of armor on Helmwige when everybody knows that bulky, slow suits get their shit slapped in by super-fast mobile suits zipping around everywhere?
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>>15285132
It has to sell more models, just change the colors and they can use the same molds without actually having to do any work!
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>>15285133
So the proper color for a "Bronze Age" Char knockoff
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>>15285133
Again I fucked it up. Meant to do same colour as Grimgerde but lighting must've been off.
I'll just go fix it when I have time.
Or just go with the error and Make Ryusei-go variant.
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>>15285134
Jobber of the decade.
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>>15284463
>picture Iok in a gundam frame with illegal weapons. remember Iok was able to shoot the Hashmal with just a Reginlaze gun easily multiple times

remember IOK LITERALLY CANNOT HIT ANYTHING UNLESS IT IS TO HIS SIDES DETRIMENT
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>>15285154
>let me be your meatshield brigadier general! it's my only purpose in life!
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>>15285158
Double agent for Tekkadan.
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>>15285138
The Cool Factor.
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>>15285134

This what happens when you let a fuckboy pilot your shit
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>>15285138
Bulky mechs with fuck-huge swords sell a lot.
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>>15285158

This. Did everyone already forget the MS battle vidar debuted in? where he misses MS moving straight towards him by miles and thinks they dodged?
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What if Iok is good at close quarters combat?
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>>15285134
>grabs onto kimaris
>perfect chance to demonstrate its electro shock horns
>pilot is too fucked up to do anything but talk and die


JUST
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Shino is alive inside of Flauros.
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Did this season ever really manage to go anywhere?
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>>15285134

>Didn't even get to use it's electro horns

JOBBER OF JOBBERS

Is this the new Susanowo?
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>>15285050
>was too hard for him to say certain things to him,
I thought that was his season 1 development
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>>15284463

In Lord Kujan we trust.
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>>15285138
They needed a big MS to justify a big sword that mika could use to kill the MA.

>>15285187
Susanoo did way more than that. Helmwige literally just stood and watched every battle it should've participated in until this episode. They could've had a Graze with a big sword and it wouldn't have made a difference.
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>>15284961
Is this the first Gundam series to utilise the philosopher stone=commodification of human beings trope?
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Why IBO Season Two is full of homo?
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>>15285186
No.
More "gripping" or interesting but less direction than S1
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Mika has been a fucking disappointment this Season when compared to S1.
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>>15285203
There's lots of innuendo in the first season.
Yamagi is just actually getting lines this season
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>>15285216
>when compared to S1.
Well it isn't like he developed less, they just teased development less and everyone is use to his autism rage
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>>15285221
Much less development, more robot-like behavior and less effort in finishing the job.
I mean, he just fucking stood there looking at Julieta with her mech in pieces and didn't deliver a final blow. What the fuck happened to him?
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>>15285134
What even was the point of this thing? Isurugi might as well have piloted a Zaku for all he ended up doing.
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Reminder to galifags that when IBO gets in SRW Gaelio and friends will not be playable
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>>15285233
>Much less development
But he didn't really developed. They hinted with lizard man he may start to think about killing, he didn't. They hinted he may start to think about relationships, S1 ends with no conclusion and he starts again in S2. They hint he may go off the deep end, pretty much stays himself.

If anything him willingly giving up his body is more of a significant change and defining trait than the whole of S1
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Kimaris is an ARCHER
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>>15285233
Maybe the killing stopped being as fun?
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>>15285249
Nonsense. Killing is always fun.
How can you become a demon if you don't find killing to be fun?
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>>15285256
Not all demons, some enjoy trickery or lies rather than murder
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>>15285243
It's not unlikely.
For many times in SRW enemy or third party units become playable for one reason or the other, sometimes it's a special occasion with you playing from their perspective, or they temporary team up with you, or they actually join you but die shortly after later due to plot.

In SRW V fucking Yazan and full frontal in neo zeong become playable and can earn exp.
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>>15285256
When you crush your opponent's cockpit with a mace bigger than their entire MS you can generally assume the pilot is dead. Especially when they're clearly puking blood and shit talking you over the radio.

>>15285272
It depends how the series ends. Julieta will likely be recruitable at least.
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>>15285281
I imagine the shittalking would be an indicator of not being dead yet.
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>>15285183
>>grabs onto kimaris
>>perfect chance to demonstrate its electro shock horns
>>pilot is too fucked up to do anything but talk and die
>JUST
>>15285187
>>Didn't even get to use it's electro horns
>JOBBER OF JOBBERS
I KNOW right?
Fuck, JUST HEAD BUTT HIM!

>>15285243
>that when IBO gets in SRW Gaelio and friends will not be playable
>>15285272
>It's not unlikely.
Yeah man, all you have to do is complete the SAVE CARTA route!
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>>15285212
I can't wait to see mika and atras precious ham baby
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>>15285282
You must be new to Gundam. The only way you know for sure you got a kill is if your opponent shit talks you or declares their love. Usually with a rainbow background.
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Why did McGillis "kill" Gali in season 1?

I thought it was to get power from through the marriage but he was powerful without it in S2
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>>15285315

>I thought it was to get power from through the marriage

That should be Iznario's doing since that was one of the three Power Plays observed in Season 1

>He was powerful without it in S2

That's because he basically ousted his father and becomes the next Fareed head after the whole Arbrau hoopla
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>>15285134

>Gets destroyed by the machine it is known for beating effortlessly the first time around

POTTERY
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>>15285324
>That should be Iznario's doing
I mean it would be McGillis who gets made the head but if you are right it really means there was fuck all reason to do it

What advantage was there to killing him? He basically just caused an angry asshole to fuck with him, unless that was just part of some crazy master plan which required everyone falling into their role perfectly.
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>>15285315

Because he's an idiot with anger issues who can't control himself.

Gaelio even told him in this season he thought it strange when Carta and himself were essentially going to help him anyway, he ended up betraying them either fashion.
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>>15285315
For the same reason Char killed Garma.
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>>15285328
Helmwige was a fucking downgrade from Grimgerde and you know it.
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>>15285315
So Mika could go save Kudelia/no witnesses to that.
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>>15285341
I guess but he never really seems that angry, plus he works with people who literally fucked him all the time.

>>15285349
If McGillis wanted to kill them all he probably could have done it much better and by now already.

Then again he isn't even good at killing one so the loli would probably fuck him up

>>15285359
Doesn't seem a particularly efficient way. If your best way of creating a distraction is killing an ally that doesn't seem very sustainable
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>>15285365
>I guess but he never really seems that angry
He's angry on the inside no matter how much he has to keep his composure around people like Iznario.
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>>15285003
it was posted in the last thread
>>15284008
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McGillis was a damn sight better in S1 because at least there it seemed like he knew what he was doing.

Now he's just obsessed with Bael and apparently of the belief that one machine can erase all his problems. Then again, he couldn't even double-tap the Kimaris, as it were, so I guess maybe he's not cut out for this.
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So there's 4 episodes left in this shit.

What's your bets on a new mech still coming out before everything comes to a close?

My money is on a new Frame mixed with Flauros left-overs for Monkey.

Oh yeah, and Orga's coffin will also finally see some action.
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>>15285382
He seemed better cause they never really committed to anything but muh corruption.

He just sort of was sneaky and seemed to have a big plan, it just seems they never actually wrote what that part was

Also this happened, someone thought this was a good design
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>>15285292
I wonder if it will be a mini Mika or a mini Atra ore even a mix of the two
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>>15285385

I say another MA has to come up.

I feel like we've harped on the Calamity War, how much war sucks, the Gundams and the order of seven stars shit too much to not have at least one more "Right - these machines were made to kill the unstoppable robot killing machines, not people." moment. Like it'll just be a fucking gundam party on Mars and they'll rise from their grave some more.
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>here lies Helmwige
>he never scored
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So will there be an OVA or S3? Or new gundam project?
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>>15285365
McGillis is a sociopath who never opened up to the people he called his friends in all the years he spent with them. It's heavily implied he killed people whenever he was threatened. But the thing is, neither Carta nor Gaelio were threatening him in any way, and neither deaths were necessary for his plans. So the only conclusion is he killed them for another reason entirely.
Personally I think it was a way for him to get back at them for being happy spoiled brats who never saw nor suspected the shit he was going through as a child and yet had the nerve to call themselves his friends. He repressed those negative, murderous feelings for years, covering them up with a mask because they could slow down his rise up the ladder if he acted on them, and as soon as he could act on them with complete impunity, or more acurately, as soon as he created the conditions to act on them with complete impunity, he let them out.
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>>15285438
why didn't isurugi tackle kimaris instead of jumping in front of a drill? why didn't he use his sword as a shield?
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>>15285365
>he never really seems that angry
It's not like he literally said he's lived in anger.
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>>15285454
becuese then him and Gali couldn't have a heart to drill silly.
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>>15285452
>heavily implied
Pretty sure we saw him over several peoples bodies in that flashback, including another blonde shota who may've become Iznario's favorite.

Personally, I think McGillis resents Gjallarhorn in its entirety as an organization; he thinks everything went wrong after Agnika Kaieru died or disappeared. Removing Gaelio and Carta, especially with the strategic marriage to Almiria arranged by his father, was just a convenient way to destabilize the organization.
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>>15285452
>had the nerve to call themselves his friends.
I get what your post is saying, and I agree with it to an extent, but I don't doubt for a second that he actually thought of them (or at least Gaelio) as friends. Did he probably get frustrated with them, get angry at them? Absolutely. But there's been too much that points to him actually having cared in addition to that anger.
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>>15285478
Do offices look like that in real life? That floor space and massive window?
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Question,

Did Choco lost one of those rare metal swords in the fight against Gali Gali this episode?

Does this mean Bael now, aside from having no gimmicks whatsoever only has one sword?
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>>15285478
The idea of him shooting himself in the foot out of rage is good, the problem is the show doesn't really expand on it or play it into the show well. Just sort of exposites bits and doesn't really complete any kind of character arc.

I feel like he has just got stupider as the show went on. They made him do things and then sort of patch it together later.
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>>15285478
>But there's been too much that points to him actually having cared in addition to that anger
I completely agree, it's just that my post was getting longuish so I glossed over that detail. Gaelio is also right to think McGillis occasionaly took his mask off when they were together.
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>>15285452
>>15285365

IIRC it was a power move. Carta's death basically eliminated her family as a faction in the Seven Stars - and didn't McGillis basically get promoted to her job of commanding the Earth Sphere? And with Gaelio dead, his sister (Mc's wife-to-be) would be the only heir for her family, thus McGillis will in future basically run two houses and until then her dad has a vested interest to watch out for him - it's only when he grabs Bael and decides he's done fucking around playing by Gjallahorn's rules and he will BECOME LEGEND that papa purple realizes how nuts he is.

As for why he killed them rather than get them on his side, I think it's because they seemed like they wouldn't have understanding? Look at their interactions with Tekkadan and how Mika constantly wrecked their shit with his autismo powers. But big mac was secretly a space rat inside all along. He understood hardship and anger and that is what gave him the strength to legitimately try and revolutionize the world order. Gaelio only comes close to understanding it AFTER McGillis effectively kills him and he loses everything.

You can say this is kind of asholish of Fareed, and I'd be inclined to agree. Very few characters in this series are completely in the right about anything. Their history, their honor, their emotions, their attachments all get in the way of actually unfucking this whole situation. But if it didn't there wouldn't be a show, the younger generation of Gjallahorn would have toppled over the old guys and there'd be no need for violent revolution.
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>>15285498
One of them went spinning off-screen, and Bael definitely retreated with a single blade. Maybe McGillis has extras?

>>15285493
No. Absolutely not. There's literally nothing in the room but a desk and the windows. Having a massive suite for an office would be kinda okay for a seven stars type guy, but there's no rationale behind wasting all that usable space on their island city boat fortress.
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>>15284841
f u g g that colorscheme works so well. Still not sold on the legs tho, too much of a contrast
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>>15285524
But he already had that power in S2, it didn't really seem like Carta's death helped do that but I can let it slide and say it did

>I think it's because they seemed like they wouldn't have understanding?
He let him chop up Ein to turn into a illegal MS, Gali never actually objected to anything he said. Weren't there even lines saying he agreed about not liking GHorn's ways all that much?
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>>15285506
I agree with you, it's been frustrating. I'm still holding out hope that something will come out of all the little bits of showing that hey, McGillis cared! before the show ends, but at this point I don't have much of it.

I feel similarly disappointed over how Gaelio went from being disgusted over Gjallarhorn's corruption to being A-okay working with Rustal? I get that he's indebted to him, and I get that he wants to distance himself from McGillis because he's butthurt, but the fact that this problem hasn't been addressed pisses me off. Especially since scenes showing what he was doing during the timeskip, how he came to reach the conclusions he has, could've easily been sprinkled throughout S2. But nah, instead we got pirates arc 2.0.
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>>15285506
The thing is Okada is using Choco's proteiform nature to create suspense. You're not supposed to know what he's thinking, the second you understand a side of him, he's already someone else, doing some crazy shit you didn't expect. But the unpreidictability of a character lies in the amount of info you keep away from the audience, so building a character arc for such a character is a hard job, it's very difficult to do without forsaking his unpredictability and the suspense of the show.
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>>15285524

Note: McGillis' increasing retardation and move to fix things with giant robots instead of politics is basically all Mika's fault - he keeps showing Choco the power of autismo space rat rage to just smash everybody - fuck subtlety. But Mika also has yet to tell anyone how to "actually use" the Gundam by giving it it's pound of flesh.

Or is it Mika's fault? What if it's just that Mika is a product of the environment, a piece of human garbage dismissed by everyone he meets despite the fact that he has experienced hardship, has will to power and clearly a talent beyond the normal. He killed a Mobile Armor with great sacrifice to himself - in another time and place would he not be a hero? Does this not show the corruption inherent in the world?
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>>15285556
You know a lot of the show would be improved by just getting rid of the orphans and having the whole show be on the Gjallarhorn's internal issues. I don't think Gali or Mcgillis are amazing characters but they just have a bit more going on that a semi decent writer could mold into something good.

I know that doesn't sell to kids and all but I don't think our current MCs do anyway, and the show is already full on politics so some focus on compelling characters could only help
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I love the bael, its a great design. Hopefully he gets other weapons in the coming episodes cause all he has right now is 1 sword and wing guns.
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>>15285575
That sounds more like they don't know what they are doing with him and realising revaling it makes him fall apart desu
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>>15285382
>McGillis was a damn sight better in S1 because at least there it seemed like he knew what he was doing
That's only because you didn't know yet how retarded his masterplan is.
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>>15285578
I think they just wanted to sell some model kits.
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>IBO will never have a dangerous mastermind
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>>15285585
You're not wrong. The show would work better with basically anyone but Tekkadan as the focus. At the very least, anyone but Mika, who is probably the "protagonist" with the least amount of agency I've ever seen. I've been shamelessly watching this show for McGillis and Gaelio, and my bias aside, I 100% believe this would've been a more engaging show with more Gjallarhorn focus.
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>>15285341

i'd be pissed too if i got iznariod in the ass
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>>15285604
>he's so bugged reality can't render him anymore
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>>15285528
>Maybe McGillis has extras?

There's no way Choco has more of those rare metal swords.

You're going to get Bael fighting with just a single sword now.
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>>15285610
I don't even dislike the idea of the gundam pilot not being the real MC, but it feels like they (now literally) wheel him out to go hey look guys it is Mika! Maybe he will fight next episode
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>>15285510
translation pls
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>>15285604
Have you really not payed attention?

Orga is responsible for everything that has happened

He is danger
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>>15285590
Nah it's okay because 1)he's doing retarded shit that makes no sense 2)there are still a few things we don't get about him. The matter of whether he likes Almiria or not (I personally don't doubt it anymore but still the show only went as far as suggesting it, it's not confirmed yet), whether he's feeling guilt >>15285478 and his feelings for his friends that needs to be adressed (and by that I mean in a non chuuni way). I want an apotheosis of the power of friendship, dammit
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>>15285553

I think the thing with Graze Ein is that's already playing to his master plan. It perfectly shows the hypocrisy of Gjallarhorn which Gaelio is steeped in. At that step Gaelio is in this weird place in the middle - where he's said to McGillis he understands that Seven Stars/Gjallarhorn is messed up and is willing to express it, but at the same time he can't overcome the fact that he's a product of the messed up world. He thinks that Tekkadan, the AV system, etc are just garbage non-humans fucking with the "natural order". Only his high-minded pals in Gjallarhorn have the right to change Gjallarhorn, or something.

So McGillis' conclusion is that Gali/Carta/etc won't actually be able to help him change stuff because they haven't experienced all that anger and despair and suffering he (and in a parallel, the actual Orphans) have and they'll just have to go. It's a shitty way to approach the issue but, y'know, McGillis has seen some fucked up shit. As a person Gaelio has now actually suffered and learned from it and walks closer to being a better person but he can't put aside his personal stake to unfuck the world because 'muh revenge'. So he's still the problem with Gjallarhorn.

Until McGillis goes all Code Geass on us and lets Gali stab him to be like "haha, now you are the hero who will reform Gjallarhorn it was my plan all along"
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>>15285650

Yeah, friendship, honor and justice has done fuck all in this series besides get some people killed.

It's all about suffering, autism and revenge powering the robots now. It's almost like the Japanese think war isn't cool, or something.
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>>15285666
The more awful the world it takes place in, the more beautiful the apotheosis of friendship https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEj6B4LOfHk
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>>15285650
Yeah, at this point I think it's clear that he likes Almiria. I don't think it's romantic at all, he's way too emotionally stunted for that, but he definitely cares about her. That said, he's still tried to proselytize her and whatnot, so it's not like his history of manipulating those he cares about is broken.
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Now that monkey's said she wants to be human, how long until Rustal-sama tells her to get in the robot and forces AV upgrades on her?

Might actually do something for Galigali's character along the way
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>>15285706
>I don't think it's romantic at all, he's way too emotionally stunted for that, but he definitely cares about her
Nah I think it is romantic, it's just platonic. Choco probably can't love anyone he fucks, much less consider fucking pleasant. But because Almiria's a kid, she never asks anything sexual of him, and that's why he can relax and love her.
It's just specula though.
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>>15285747
Given that he's been nothing but caring towards her, probably never.

>>15285666
>It's almost like the Japanese think war isn't cool, or something.
And yet the show glorifies a bunch of child soldiers committing war crimes.
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>>15285747
since he was grateful gali saved her I doubt he'd force an AV surgery on her. I hope he gives her a gundam.
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>>15285778
>Nah I think it is romantic, it's just platonic.
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>>15285778
Can you love someone if you don't want to fuck her? Romantically, I mean. Not agápe or phlia.
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>>15285747

Probably not, wasn't Rustal hesitant to stick her in an advanced MS because he thought she'd get her ass killed?

I think it's more likely she's going to keep getting beat up because she won't dehumanize herself to face bloodshed nor are her heart or boobs large enough to become the very best or whatever the fuck made Amida so ace.
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>>15285812
Excuse me being a retard, didn't read:

>>15285212
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>>15285802
>>15285795
Eh, I'm ESL so maybe you can't in english, I don't know. It made sense to me though.
Just consider that asexual love tumblr bullshit I guess. I just think it'd make sense that someone with Choco's past would feel love but only express it in unconventional, non sexual ways.
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>>15285340
Chocolate killed him as to become the 1st in line for being the new heir to the Baudwin family.
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>>15285840
And there was no point considering Gaelio would have done anything he wanted anyways.
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>>15285862

What if McGillis told him to hug a space rat? Would he do it?

How would he feel if he hugged McGillis, and macky whispered in his ear he was a dirty street rat?
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>>15285820
>Excuse me being a retard
This line is way too rare on these boards, I must congratulate you.
Hell I'll do the same only for all those years I spent shitting up various boards.

Please excuse me, for being a retard.
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>>15285658
>"I was only pretending to be retarded!"
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>>15285879
Probably very horny, but then again I don't think the content of McGillis lines matters much. McGillis reciting a recipe for baklavas in my ear would probably make me horny.
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>>15285556
>to being A-okay working with Rustal
Rustal looks like he wants to reform by handling power to the likes of Iok and Gaelio, who, afaik, are honest individuals.
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>>15285862
But Gaelio had - at that crucial point before dying - a disturbed sense of pride and honor that despised space rats and the lesser beings. Gaelio even went as far as to tell later he apologized for being like that. Pre-Vidar Gaelio may not have had "understanding".
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>>15285925
>Rustal looks like he wants to reform
You're clearly not watching the same show as me. It doesn't matter who Rustal's decided to work with, it doesn't change the fact that he's started a 3-month-long war to try to ruin McGillis' reputation, pulled a Dort 2.0 (which is why Gaelio's radio silence is especially frustrating, since he bitched about Dort), and did all sorts of other corrupt shit. Not to mention that he's been grooming Iok on how to be a corrupt bastard in this recent fight.
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>>15285925
I know Anon, but to me Rustal is just a more appropriate leader than McGillis. I mean, he looks like he will slowly "break the eggs for the omellete" while McGillis wants to burn the chiken in the frying pan. Rustal is cunning and wants to stop what - to me - is a greater threat to stability and solid reform of Gjallarhorn: McGillis retardation.
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>>15285953
McGillis still easily manipulated Gaelio to turn against his values for the sake of his plans. He made him turn Ein into a Graze.
I really loved that part, because it was the first time Gaelio, probably thanks to his mindbroken state, sensed something was off: "Are you mocking me?" but then he brushed it away instantly even though it was probably the most accurate thing he had ever said in S1.
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>>15285955
I meand to answer you with the Zeta pic post.
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>>15285955
>Not to mention that he's been grooming Iok on how to be a corrupt bastard
Oh come on, Iok never needed Rustal's help for that. Remember Jasley?
Unless by corrupt bastard you mean, a competent corrupt bastard. Then I agree.
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>>15285980
>he looks like he will slowly "break the eggs for the omellete"
Kek, magnifique traduction, non, vraiment.
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>>15285980
>>15286004
McGillis is going about things in a retarded way, and I don't think he'd be a good leader at all, but he genuinely does want Gjallarhorn to stop allowing shit like Iznario to happen. Rustal is competent, and he does want stability, but his actions aren't going to help pave the way to better reform. McGillis needs to be stopped, but not by Rustal. I was hoping Gaelio would prove he'd be able to carry on McGillis' ideals for reform in a less retarded and dangerous way, but the last episode killed any chance of that.

>>15286005
I did mean a competent one, yes.
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>>15286051
>I was hoping Gaelio would prove he'd be able to carry on McGillis' ideals for reform in a less retarded and dangerous way, but the last episode killed any chance of that.

How was the last episode related to that?
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>>15286051
Rustal, Gaelio and Iok seem like the lesser evil as to not let shit hit the fan as hard as it will if McGillis wins with Tekkadan. The only one that we could partially agree is "untainted" is Kudelia (with tutelage by Makanai), but, come on, she has neither the political cunning nor the experience to lead a reform in Gjallarhorn, much less to not let it dissolve into internal strife.
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So, when's the new thread?
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>>15286071
He kept denying that his ideals held any merit, basically said that he's over them, and he's still going along with Rustal without issue.
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>>15286085
The usual autist forgot to link it.
>>15285817
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>>15286094
It doesn't seem like it was made by the same autist.
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>>15286108
Now that you mention it, that would explain it.
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>>15286254
>>15286254
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>>15284777

fuck


yes.
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>>15286089
He said McGillis's ideals were a deception.

We don't even know what McGillis actually thinks or what they are actually talking about when they say ideals.

McGillis probably told everyone something different.
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>>15286284

No, it's actually very simple. McGillis is always going on about a world of equality, not one ruled by nobles picking on the weak and the poor but one where everyone has a chance, where there are no class differences or caste systems, only ability. Isurugi was a retard, he was basically just going "yeah smash the 1%" like some Occupy Wall Street moron and that's why he bought into McGillis' rhetoric, which is just textbook revolutionary garbage. "muh anti-corruption. muh change, muh justice"

In the end those ideals McGillis is spewing are just a big lie and he'll be like Hitler or Stalin. After he overthrows the system, he will be the system, but now the power is consolidated in him and he will rule like an uncontested king. The abused will simply become the abusers and the world will be ruled by thugs and the well-connected. Mafia and armsdealers like Nobliss will just buy their way out and still be able to live in the web of power.

Everything McGillis says is the same shit people like Marx preached, believed by the same young, useful idiots, and it always goes the same way: a one-man psycho state running on cult of personality towards some charismatic despot who wields all the power in his hand alone.
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>>15286302
>No, it's actually very simple. McGillis is always going on about a world of equality, not one ruled by nobles picking on the weak and the poor but one where everyone has a chance, where there are no class differences or caste systems, only ability. Isurugi was a retard, he was basically just going "yeah smash the 1%" like some Occupy Wall Street moron and that's why he bought into McGillis' rhetoric, which is just textbook revolutionary garbage. "muh anti-corruption. muh change, muh justice"

He talked about more freedom to Tekkadan.

He talked about corruption to Gali, but also mentioned Gjallarhorn not having the authority to do its job in a flashback with Gali.

He also set up the puppet mars branch head(who has currently betrayed him) and promised Mars to Tekkadan.
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>>15285401
Mini-Mika is just Goku SSJ3 in GT.
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>>15286261
tks based anon
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>>15284587
Most of the new suits they've found from digging around Mars. The material they use to make mobile suits is also from Mars. Why does IBO attract people who can't follow basic elements of the story?
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>>15286302
>>15286325
Are you people watching the same show? Sounds like you are just projecting what ideological garbage you have onto the show
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>>15287268
oh fuck off you really think Mars has dug up enough mobile suits to currently fight off Rustal's army?
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>>15287333
You're the one who wrote stupid shitposts like you only barely paid attention to the show. Martians literally do have mobile suits laying about the yard. Not to mention Dort is a really bad example considering the suits were sabotaged beforehand and the Dort colonists couldn't actually fight. The one thing about IBO is that they make it really easy to follow and beats its audience over the head with the same plot points and exposition. Yet for some reason, even after all this, shitters like you still can't follow
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