Boston Dynamics Handle

>>15264266
They should put feet on it that fold down so it can walk or roll, that balancing system seems like it'll be prone to failure when it's working with it's hands and carrying stuff.

>>15264281

why would it be any more prone to failure? they demonstrated many things in the video that does not throw it off balance, even carrying 100 lbs which is an insane amount of wait for something like this.

>>15264296
It carried 100 ibs with both hands behind it's back, symmetricaly, leaning forward.

How is it supposed to swing a machine gun while rolling around without encountering balance complications?

That's pretty much the only reason DARPA is funding this stuff, unfortunately.

Having feet would give it extra stability and traction when necessary, they could be designed to stay off the ground generally when rolling, and skid along the ground to keep it upright if it leans too far in one direction.

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>>15264266
How long until we get cutie murderbots?

>>15264364
You simply put a third arm on its head to swing the gun around while it carries literally everything else

>>15264364

That's the basis of all of their OTHER robots

This thing is designed to replace amazon factory workers and other things in urban settings. This would be a crazy fucking traffic cop.

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>>15264379
>implying we don't already have them

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We've finally reached the end game anons.

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>>15264266
Reminds me of this.

Can gooks even compete?
Boston Dynamics are the real fuckin deal.

Now this is looking good. Looks way better than the attempts at walking bots. I'm looking forward to see more developments with this style of robot.

PLAMO WHEN?!

>they didn't blur out the license plates in the parking lot
Someone's getting doxed.

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wait, nobody remembered this?

>>15264666
I would buy a street legal mecha so fucking fast.

>>15264266
what's the reason behind the reverse joint?
its quadruped origins?

>>15264266
No if they could make it a suit, that would be grand.

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>>15264266

You know what this means right?

Scopedogs are viable. Look at how that thing moves. It moves like a Scope dog, doing dances and spins. The Scopedogs wouldn't work in real world since their wheels are too small, and they'd trip/fall over everything. Make the wheels bigger and it'd work.

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>>15264266
Put a seat on it, and we've got our

VWEEEEEEEEEEE

armored troopers

>>15264826
Is that a rocket firing off in it's foot?
How impractical would using rockets as a speed booster or jump pack for a ground vehicle/mecha be?
Would they make much difference for something that heavy?

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>>15264849
Yes, many ATs have booster rockets in their feet to help them go even faster.

>>15264849
For land units, there isn't really anything in real life that needs to go that quickly while on the ground, so it's rare if not non-existent. Besides, rockets are somewhat difficult to control so they wouldn't be that reliable, while jet engine pods would be large and complicated (needs fuel system of its own or tied into the vehicle's fuel supply). Any time that the equipment isn't being used, it would be dead weight and reduce the mobility and speed of whatever it was attached to, so some kind of tradeoff has to be made. In real life, a small enough external rocket or jet engine that wouldn't be cumbersome probably wouldn't provide enough thrust to be very useful in the first place. They would never have enough fuel and propellant to last as long as they do in anime either.

Heavy aircraft can have JATO/RATO equipment for assisted takeoff, but such things are more or less disposable and usually aren't kept after takeoff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JATO

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>>15264876
>That posture

Placing boosters horizontally on the back seems like a much safer design option if you ask me.

>>15264266
Oh god it's just like the robot in my dream

they had jumping power to reach the tree tops and could hang on the sturdier branches

operators would use them for camouflage, to increase vision range, and for sniping

they wore computerized goggles for data acquisition and communications

and the biggest issue plaguing us was the advent of a new drug that heightened psychic potential, proliferated on the streets even though it was a controlled substance

people feared to walk outside, and even the common man gained the ability of faster than sight reflexes and short-term precognition

and those who were already espers were like demigods who walked amidst the fiercest carnage unscathed

What's the best way to destroy it?

>>15264798
>>15264666

>>it's literally Rideback
>>mfw people still posting votoms and shit when that guy mentioned that it's literally Rideback

>>15265080
The Handle looks far more manuevrable than the Scopedog already.

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>>15265080
It might be really interesting if these things ever take off/get mass produced and people use them in sports and stuff. That said, IMO rideback itself would have been more interesting if it had stayed with the sports angle instead of going into the world government thing.

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>>15265080
The D-Walker from MGSV is also worthy of comparison

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>>15265157
Also the robots from Dead Heat.

>>15265153
They should've made it about robot parkouring. Her driving the thing through that shopping mall was the best scene in the show after all.

>>15265153
at least it didn't get as ruined as Baquash did

>>15265085
To be fair a Scopedog is a fully armored piece of military hardware. The Handle is a prototype with no armor.

>>15264666

This is at least the 4th thread on the subject in the last few weeks, and Rideback always comes up quickly as a point of reference/comparison. He'll, the first thread I recall had a picture of Rideback along with a link.

>>15265066
Exploding arrow to the knee.

>>15264266
not too long now. one of these puppies will be carrying you to a police van for misogyny, soon. Seriously, though, pretty cool. The decent of stairs was impressive.

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>>15264913
let's work out the technical hiccups before we start bolting rocket-engines to it, shall we?

>>15265023
what system are you running the campaign on, GURPS?

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VOTOMS AND WANZERS ARE ABOUT TO BE A FUCKING REALITY YES FUCKS YES

>>15265996
I am more impressed with the possibility of a vehicle that can almost ignore rocky terrain and keep the passenger compartment stable, despite a lack of roads.

Instead of treads that still makes things bumpy, we can have wheels with leglike suspensions. And with the vehicle scanning the ground it would be possible to basically have a tea party while travelling offroad. You just need enough floor clearance to go over large rocks.

If there is a possibility of this thing becoming a two wheeled vehicle it will finally be the motivation I need to lose weight.

>>15266013
which one might argue was the ideal of legged war-machines in the first place.

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>>15266013

We've had that sort of tech for a long while now. On vehicles with treads. And without any advanced ground-scanning AI.

The problem isn't the treads themselves (which are still the best off-road option), but the simple fact that rough terrain is going to be rough.

>>15264364
But backwards is forwards...

>>15266375
But you can easily have a few times the suspension travel with legs than tracks, and it's active, so instead of moving the tank barrel to stay level, the entire crew compartment could do so. I don't thing ground scanning is even necessary for a manually driven vehicle when you could just use inertial feedback instead.

>>15266375
>the simple fact that rough terrain is going to be rough.
But that's exactly what Handle is showing otherwise; that you don't have to accept a rocky ride. We have now a technology that actively maintain the cabin at stable state regardless of ground condition. This might not be applicable for the military, but it will definite have a use in the civilian market.

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>>15266433
Part of the reason the Leopard II is able to maintain that sort of stability is because of the vehicle's independent suspension, which, again, has been a thing for a long time now. The turret is also stabilized independently of the chassis, meaning that, at least for the gunner and commander, the ride is fairly smooth.

>>15266523
The issue isn't the tech's intelligence so much as its applicability to a vehicle designed to carry more than 100 lbs. In designing a wheeled-yet-legged vehicle like this, you're going to have to factor in all the weight of the chassis plus cargo, and that means much bigger, stiffer hydraulics. It also means figuring out a series of independent electrical motors to drive the wheels, which are all going to have to be very powerful, but inherently less powerful than a single dedicated engine and transmission.

All of this is likely going to result in a vehicle with less-than-adequate horsepower, or a vehicle whose transmission and suspension are so clunky that you lose that smooth ride anyway.

>>15266677
That's exactly it. When you scale this up from a robot weighing a few hundred pounds to a robot weighing fifty tons, you run into many engineering problems you didn't face before. The best military application of something like Handle I can see is putting a 37-57mm (recoilless?) anti-tank gun on it, or just using it for recon. Next step: make it swim.

>>15264281
Actually the wheels are easier than feet.

>>15265066
EXPLODING KNEES

>>15264515
You act like there's no Asians working on the Boston Dynamics team. But then again you're probably too stupid to process that information.

>>15264266
I have a very cursory knowledge of what Boston Dynamics do (making cool all-terrainish robots then bullying them), what is their business model exactly? Is it purely an academic research kind of thing?

>>15266967
No, this is not academic in the slightest but I can see how you could make that mistake because of MIT and whatnot.

Boston Dynamics is just another engineering company like any other with the only difference being a focus on robotics, computers, software, etc.

Basically they're a bunch of eggheads who sell their gizmos.

>>15266967

They've got a lot of DARPA contracts. You may recall some of their forays into creating a "robotic pack mule" for the US military. That's basically their bread and butter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE3fmFTtP9g

>>15265547
When I did make a pen and paper RPG it was a system that used d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, and d20s, and it had character generation and ability systems inspired by mutant chronicles. I was 15 I think

I could make another one that's better now

perhaps that is the answer

>>15266965
Americans of asian descent aint gooks, Kim.

>>15266967
>what is their business model exactly?

They use wellfare money from the military-Industrial complex to make robots. They probably get plenty of it because their product is very easy to build nice presentations around and because they're clearly good.

>>15266967
They make software for hardware.

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>>15264266
Fuck, even fucking setry bots becomes a real deal now.

>>15268815

yeah imagine urban copbots that can run 15 consecutive 6 minute miles

also it can jump 4ft vertical and talk directly to drones that turn your car off

>>15266869
>That's exactly it. When you scale this up from a robot weighing a few hundred pounds to a robot weighing fifty tons, you run into many engineering problems you didn't face before. The best military application of something like Handle I can see is putting a 37-57mm (recoilless?) anti-tank gun on it, or just using it for recon. Next step: make it swim.
Which is why I don't understand you keep trying to use it in the army. Threaded Tractors existed before there was tanks, after all. No need to get it to 50ton when you can start it up as personal locomotion for civilians. Specifically design it for family offroading.

>>15264710
Might be helpful when it lifts stuff.
>>15264674
I am selling my internal organs and one testicle to get one.

>>15264710

I think it is for balance, you have the arms extending one way and the legs extending the others, it also uses the main body part as a counterbalance to lift, which means the reverse joint would help it there

>>15268943
The average civilian has no need for a legged transport machine, because roads exist. Rideback maybe. Even in farming and forestry there is limited application because machines there are meant to act under human supervision, and aren't dangerous enough to warrant remote control use. They'd also have to be more expensive for no real gain over traditional motorised farm and forestry equipment. As I see it, the only good thing about Handle is it's potential to go faster across very rugged terrain than a person, without endangering them. This would be a near perfect bomb disposal robot; just add fingers. The point of turning it into an unarmored tank destroyer is that it's electric motors could (could) run cold enough to not be picked up by infra-red, and it could quickly relocate across rubble and find it's target. Until AI is good enough for robots in unpredictable terrain to do tasks unsupervised, they'll be relegated to jobs where a human has to control them, i.e. jobs that are too dangerous to risk a life at. Essentially dealing with weapons, dealing with very hazardous chemicals/isotopes, performing tasks in inert or toxic atmospheres, being in space, or being deep in the ocean, hence swimming.

>>15264674
I don't care about motorcycles, but I'd become an early adapter of Ridebacks in a heartbeat.

>>15266433

There is that thing called ground pressure.

And just because of it heavy mechas are utterly pointless. Nothing is going to change that.

Oh hey we Geass now. Or Rideback.

>>15270463
>The average civilian has no need for a legged transport machine, because roads exist.
Tell that to the many people who buy huge SUVs despite never leaving the cities where they live.

But really, plenty of people have civilian reasons to go offroad. I don't understand why you keep trying to push the military angle.

Is there any way us common /m/ folks can push to see a rideable version of this? At least so they know that there are people interested in seeing this get expanded on.

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>>15272709
Rather have this rideable.

>>15272709

Maybe in 20 years.

>>15271757
Because (good) SUVs are easily good enough for anything a civilian wants to do off-road. If they wanted an SUV with wheeled legs coming out the bottom, it would cost ten times the price, and require a new licence too. In what universe does a civilian need to, or even want to, have an off-road ability comparable to a person? It's not like it will have any more traction than an SUV, let alone anything with tracks, and would only see use in very rocky terrain. When was the last time you wanted to drive up the alps but couldn't because your SUV didn't have legs?

>>15271757
And I was only pushing the military angle for the unmanned robot.

>>15264674
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH60-R8MOKo
Soon

>>15275185
If it doesn't come with an optional Battlehopper fuselage mod I riot.

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>tfw mass produced robots like this will be possible in your lifetime

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>>15275185
Just get a semi-sentient AI and an artificial human, then it'll set.

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>>15275185
Always wanted a /m/otorcycle bro like Thunder ever since watching Borgman. Maybe I'll get my chance!

>>15274387
>In what universe does a civilian need to, or even want to, have an off-road ability comparable to a person?

Fat american hunters?

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>>15274387
>Dissing legged/strut suspension
I cannot express how much I want something like this.

>>15276111
Shit you're right, the first practical IRL mecha will evolve from mobility scooters.

>>15266981
didn't that contract get cancelled because the grunts testing it complained about it being too noisy, despite being repeatedly told by the engineers that "it's a prototype, the final version will be quieter"

>>15277590
if it got cancelled, its because there was an insurmountable problem about it, or congress decided they didn't need it after all.

grunts usually don't have the power to cancel programmes.

>>15277562
The woodland critters will rue the day when hunters roam the woods in their camo spider scooters.

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>>15276111
>>15277562
>>15277616
You're welcome

>>15278236
INCREDIBLE

>>15278236
Where's the realtree camo and browning buck bumper stickers

>>15277616
>The woodland critters will rue the day when hunters roam the woods in their camo spider scooters.
>>15277616
>You're welcome
That just reminded me so much of the Daleks...

And really, once you are permanently in an all-terrain scooter/wheelchair, why would you want to get out of it? If you can climb stairs and cross oceans with it, even better.

Americans with guns and mobility schooter mecha are basically primitive Daleks at that point.

now imagine that thing armed with a machete chasing you down a dark alleyway.

>>15278250
Oh wow, it is a fucking dalek. Well shit.

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>>15278236
You sir are a true American hero.

>>15278236
haha, fuck me

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>>15277562

Finally, someone understands