Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

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RIP Flauros

>>15255615
that's ryuusei-go u dumbnut

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KUSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Mika is super competent guys I swear

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I can't believe he's still alive.

>>15255653
Julietta is now driving half a mobile suit.

Too much hitting grunts that don't move or guys getting in their cockpits.

So is this all part of McGillis grand plan? Muh Bael.

Why even fight mobile armors with soul-sucking Gundumbs if a single run of the mill MS with a Dansleif can one hit kill it forever?

>>15255668
Not much in the show makes sense.

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>>15255661
He'll sacrifice himself dramatically for Choco and then be forgotten about instantly.

>>15255661
Maeno is based


but Isurugi will realistically die in one of the next few episodes. Let's see if they'll go full Victory Gundam at the end - kill off almost all the supporting characters on both sides and have a bittersweet ending with just a few of the surviving characters living alone on their farm.

>>15255676
>>15255668
>I can't read nor do I pay attention when I watch anything
sasuga /m/
Bet you'll blame Okada for this.

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MVPs of this episode are Rustal and Julietta

Rustal for taking the effective conservative approach to battle (use overwhelming force and then use some more overwhelming force) and Julietta for pulling off the protagonist special, except she works for the bad guys

All Galileo and Ein did was fail to kill a guy who had a relatively standard MS and no A/V or A/V derivative system. Wotta maroon!

>>15255681
You didn't answer the question.

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>>15255683
>>15255661

Isurugi is the most impressionless jobber.

Helmwige and Julieta's Graze survive another week, Gundam with least screentime gets less screentime forever.

Where were you when fujos got btfo?

>>15255730
H-he is still alive so he'll get his chance to shine!

I know everyone would have called it a super asspull, but I would have laughed so, so hard if Rustal died in the first episode of the big battle.

Can you imagine how surprising it would have been? I was really rooting for it to happen because it would have been shocking.

And then Gaelio could've taken over the fleet and kept the fight going.

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This guy sucks as a team player. Can't even back you up in vital moments.
>>15255615
>one time this gets displayed and never again
Feels bad man.

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>>15255751
Well, its safe to say that Juletta is about to get killed off soon. I'll give her two episodes until Mika puts her down

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>>15255609
So why even need Mobile suits when you can just Deisleff anything in your path?

>>15255691
Not the one you're asking, but aren't the dainsleifs a bit too slow to cause critical damage to a mobile armor? Plumas are perfect for slowing the velocity of these projectiles. Another thing would be the nature of battlefield itself, we have no info regarding mobile armors fighting in space, and very little concerning the way Flauros utilised it against Hashmal.

Any good fight this episode any stand out?

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WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

They're all going to get deded

>>15255766
Don't think too hard about it.
t.Okada

>>15255751
Mika... you fucked up here.

>>15255766
Well, now you know why that shit got banned in the first place.

The fuck is this trash heap of a Gundam show? Where are the overpowered and broken Gundams? The Strike Freedom with Jesus Yamato would have ended this fucking war in minutes. Setsuna with the Qan-T could have ended it in LITERAL FUCKING SECONDS. Unicorn would have slave controlled every fucking mobile suit and tore the the enemy fleet apart.

I WANT MY OVERPOWERED GUNDAMS BACK DAMNIT. FUCK THIS SHOW.

>>15255773
Depends on distance, say if a volley of Dansleifs fired, or someone risking a close range shot.
Or make something that slices or pierces.
See Astaroth's one in a kind blade.
It seems most tech later on was focused on penetration or at least crushing.

>>15255764

Why, its not her fault Shino died just that he failed.

>>15255773
It has a longer range than the mobile armor and Flauros used a different round anyway.

Clearing pluma doesn't require AV.

>>15255750
It might look like Charma and Choco are destined to settle this with a duel, yet we still have five eps left. Maybe it will end up like Treize and Zechs, even if there's little chance that plot will move this way... Well, at least I hope it's not as predictable as this would be.

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>>15255764
>two episodes
She might die next episode, her MS is pretty busted and Mika's hate-boner has probably grown to gigantic proportions.

>>15255774
Nah animation was ibo average except for a few key moments focused on the pilots

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>>15255795
Dammit, Anaheim.

Im fucking mad about Shino dying.

But im even more mad about Murder Manlet who cant fucking backup someone about to do something crucial for their final fight.

And there is Mc Gillis.

>Muh Bael, WE WILL WIN THIS WAR BECAUSE I OWN THE SCRAP OF MY IDOL

>*Swings yellow swords in the voids*

FUCK YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT YOU ARE GETTING EVERYONE KILLED

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>>15255796
>where is the worst aspect of gundam?

>>15255820
>people bitching about Mika being unbeatable
>people bitching now that Mika failed at his task
huh?

>>15255820
I guess he just expected the enemies to lay down their weapons once they saw his SHINY GOLDEN swords.

>>15255798
That's definetly a good point, although with the idealistic approach Gjallarhorn is known for, it wouldn't fit their "knightly" reputation to defeat MAs in such a risky way. Still, I'm fairly sure you can get anything with enough Dainsleifs.

>>15255825
He failed because Orga wasnt in the pink mobile suit that's all.

Glad to see Tekkadan's retarded strats fail miserably like they fucking should against a decent opponent.

Julieta feels like the main character and Mikazuki the murdering space rat villain.

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Dortsleif super weapon when? Needs moar Gryps!

Cant they split the fleet into multiple parts and approach the dainsleif squad from the sides?

They cant have enough to barrage shoot everybody.

>>15255832
>Tekkadan somehow wins
>Third season opens up with "As a result of Gjhallahorn's breakdown at the hands of Tekkadan, the designs for Dainsleifs leaked out and now the child soldiers who entered the fray as a result of Tekkadan now have illegal super weapons"

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>>15255814
>Fucked up orgas plan
>in a way, made mika fail orgas orders
I could list out 400 reasons hes gonna kill this bitch, but none of them combined would equal half of how fucked she is on just one of those 2 reasons, let alone both at the same time.

What we're about to see is going to be like bruce lee vs a quadriplegic retard. A beating so brutal you would swear its illegal to watch

>>15255825
Because the one time he wasn't a likable character actually died.

>>15255836
At this point I'm very uncertain if we ever get to see Orga piloting anything other than that mobile worker from S1.

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>no one in Choco's fleet notices a customized Graze with an entirely different arm

Wow great writing.
Rustal may as well just fire Dainsleif without that little play.

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That hand is going to fuck him up later.

Vida'rs extra reactor was fake?

>>15255848
Did anyone besides fujos actually cared for Shino?

Is anyone else still laughing at the concept of the 2nd brain in the gundam?
>We found a way to make the gundam frame stable so you dont go crazy and/or lose your body to it
>How?
>We put the brain of a crazy person in it who went nuts doing what your doing and lost their body

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>>15255609
Raise your flag?
This episode was more like
bury your fags.
Gas your fags

>>15255856
Bael's cockpit is so sexy.

>>15255633
More like Ryuusei-gone.

>>15255864
Don't think Ein is actually doing any thinking.

It just treats targets as MA.

>>15255862
Yes he is cool, he will be mad if/when Eugene, Ride, Guts or Chad, die.

Woah someone actually died in Tekkadan, how long has it been since a Tekkadan member besides ShotaRat#__ died?

>>15255796
I have to admit that It would be entertaining to watch Kira Beam spam and disable all the mobile suits

>>15255862
A lot of people did anon, not just fujos.

>>15255796
Updoot for truth

>>15255889
I like the way the arm and the leg flail when its getting drilled.

>>15255857
It was just there to mask the reading

>>15255884
Lot of nameless rats died all along anon. Those are Ace they are not supposed to die on a random battlefield

>>15255862
I did. He was the only one who tried to keep everyone's spirits up when they're clearly all doomed

Did the Flauros exist just to job?

>>15255862
He was a bro that liked to fuck hookers. He will be missed.

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>>15255884
Shota rat wasn't a bad pilot, even though he existed only to get Okada some more drama points.

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>this episode

>couldn't beat Amida in a Hyakuren
>can now last for an entire episode fighting Mika becuase MUH RUSTAL

I don't ask for a solid power level ranking but why do writers always go full Bleach?

>>15255932
The power of boner is stronger

>>15255932
Because plot.
If things had gone in the way they should had been been, the character who is presumably dead should been 6 feet under in the last season.

>>15255932
They could at least show any sort of training or AV upgrades to justify this. Even Seed Destiny had more substance to it's writing.

Kimaris seems to have Ein autopilot on already yet why can't he wipe out those suits including Reincar fast?

>shino screaming no at the end

we all knew he was dead but
VA did great there

>>15255932
Amida used her vast experience to predict the monkey's moves. Mika might not necessarily have the experience to do that even if he has raw skill. Not to mention he has no formal training as a fighter or anything, he just smashes stuff.

Shino is a retard. If he had retreated he would've probably survived and they could use the Flaros again. Instead he missed his shot and raged like a little autistic baby and got a rare MS destroyed.

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This shot looks like he's in his office and someone from the other side just surrendered.
What will happen to GayBoys next?

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>>15255609
Eugene is going to die in next episode.
Mark my words.

>>15255968
A flashback probably.

>>15255968
Might be a flashback building up to his death hopefully

>>15255960
Because if it was performing like it was supposed to, having the AV do what it did with the MA fight, all the grunts would say something about it being fast, Reincar pilot would be impaled, and it would have killed McGillis.

>>15255967
>Shino is a retard. If he had retreated

no retreat, "we're almost at our goal" retardation

>>15255980
Tekkadan should hurry up and die. One can only withstand their autism for so long.

>>15255980
I don't understand the reasoning behind this shit. They aren't following any ideology or wholeheartedly believe in the mission, they're just mercenaries who are just doing it for the money. They shouldn't be so invested they have to do this I WILL DIE TO COMPLETE THIS thing.

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>tfw you're a super robot pilot in a real robot show

>>15255967
Yeah but he took the risk of doing that one shot because that scumbag Rustal will just continue to spam the OP weapon against them. What he should've done was calm down after that miss and went back to the Isaribi.

>Everyone thinking Julieta is going to die
>Just before any killing blow is landed
>Gali rides up and saves her like a White Knight
>They fug

>>15255956
>>15255932

The Barbatos is outnumbered and cant have a fairly 1v1, shitposters

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Ya know, he probably would have made the shot if yelled out the attack name.

He didn't stay true to his super robot self. That's what killed him.

>>15255988
A whole planet for them and a lot of money, maybe ?

this episode goes to show that dante, chad, or even fucking hush should have got the gundam

>>15255994
Isn't that pretty much what Tekkadan did the entire show using a banned system to win all their fights?

did anyone else feel bad when he died even though we all saw it coming miles away

>>15255751
So, on a scale of 1-10, how hard is Mika going to murder everyone?

>>15255997
Has it ever stopped him before?

>>15256014
Of course, the mother fucker knew he fucked up so bad he probably thinks everyone will also die because of him just before he died.

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>>15255956
>Even Seed Destiny had more substance to it's writing.

>>15256015
-3. A random bullet that lok fired in victory will penetrate his cockpit and blow Mika's brains out.

>>15256015
He is probably back at max now. Getting revenge at Jasley must have softened him a bit because he already avenged Naze and harem.

Aaaahhhh.... so this is why we're not getting a 1/100 Flauros.

>>15256007
This. Hush would just be a coward and spam the guns from the rear and still be a better pilot.

>>15256024
They never had to fight something like Rustal before.

>>15256034
>spam the guns from the rear.

That is exactly how you should use the Flauros.

>>15256038
you mean someone actually using tactics instead of just charging at them in a mobile suit after the "look how bad i am for using these guys" child soldiers get killed in droves

>>15255932
Overconfidence against a pilot with years of experience for Amida then the power of thirst allowed her to somehow keep up.
Plus a 1v1 fight with Amida vs fragmented ones with Mika alongside other pilots.

>>15256014

>so mad he fucked up he starts screaming while crying and charges into fleet with barely functional ms

yep

Does anyone else unironiclly want Iok to live through this show? At this point his crazy luck is a meme. Solidified when he goes to protect rustal and shino misses.

There's no way he's going to get a satisfying death if okada writes him to die, so he might as well live like Patrick did in 00.

>>15256048
Exactly

>>15256059
The one Choco gave Gali in season 1 was pretty good.
Too bad Gali didn't stay dead.

>>15256059
That wasn't luck though, Julietta diverted it, although it still somehow managed to be somewhat close.

>>15256014
Yeah i felt like shit
Feelsbadman

>>15256059
The Arianrhod fleet should win anyway. I can't take these fucking space autists seriously at all. Just think how terrible it's going to be if some retard like McGillis actually takes control of Gjallarhorn in its entirety.

He seriously believes Agnika's soul will somehow turn him into a god. Agnika was probably just some retarded mook in a Gundam who had no choice to fight because it was literally life or death. The fact that they enshrined the Gundams and built an organization around him shows that Agnika's followers were basically cultists to begin with, and Gjallarhorn only became the government it is thanks to the currently existing bureaucracy taking form over time. It may not be the best but it's better than a bunch of Agnika and demon Gundam worshipping nutjobs. It's like trying to overthrow a successful and stable, but somewhat corrupt, government and replace it with a radical, fundamentalist theocracy.

The good guys are on the wrong side.

So this episode

Iok : So this how Rustal sama fight !

Julietta : Rustal sama No Tameni !!!

Rustal : ufufufu

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>>15256015
11 one of his main kazoku got murdered because of him.
He is about to go nuclear, the monkey won't survive this.

>>15255995
This better happen

>>15256014
>>15256025
>>15256054
>>15256077
Knew he was fucking dead since the Yamagay scen but i expected him to get Rustal with him, then missed...

Felt awful, Julietta is a cunt.

>>15256092
she better

>>15255992
Kek, it sorta bugs me now just how weak gundams are in this universe than it is then others, well if we dont count the 08th MS team.

Cant believe they made such a beautiful looking mecha completely Job, I dont think sunrise likes artillery mecha.....

well shino didn't get to sink rustal ship, but he did sink the fujo one

>>15256090
>Agnika was probably just some retarded mook in a Gundam who had no choice to fight because it was literally life or death.
Agnika was confirmed to be basically char's and Amuro's love child.
He has Amuro's insane piloting skills with Char's charisma, his dad also was the one who made the gundams.

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>>15256091
You have forgotten McDumb plan.
Get Bael, destroy Arianrhord fleet somehow, fuck lolis.

>>15256090
I thought Arianhrod should win because 1/3 of McGillis's fleet is gone and Arianhrod is better equipped.

>>15255661
His purpose is to make Gaelio mad. I understand now Okada.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12422437

>>15256090
The only satisfying way for this show to end is for basically everyone to die

>>15256092
>murdered

>>15256110
You can't really repeat what was already mentioned.
>Muh Bael
>Ah McGillis sama is the best
Then everyone is slaughtered en masse.
>>15256097
>doing her job makes her a cunt

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>People hating on Julieta for not jobbing and not letting Rustal die
Bunch of fucking space rats in /m/

>>15255796
>get the overpowered gundam card out and end the war 5 episodes before the finale.
Yeah, you're a moron.

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>There's people who are actually upset that Team Meat is winning

So Ryusei-char when.

>>15256136

kek, good joke

>>15256110
Why did he need to kill Gali-Gali and Carta again to get Bael?
I mean why didn't he just get the surgery and say "hey Bael chose me I am now the supreme leader of Gjallarhorn" Gaelio and Carta would be %110 on board with it and would have given him his full support.
If his plan was take over Iznario's position, kill Carta and Gaelio to get the Issue family's influence and also become the heir of the bauduin family to become the top dog of gjallarhorn since he has the might of 3 families I could see why he would do that, but if he would have been top dog if he just got bael he would have won either way.

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>>15256136
10/10

>>15256146

I think his original plans were slightly different until he saw the mika vs ma fighta

>>15256146
How would he get access to Bael otherwise?

>>15256143
Both Rustal and Macky are assholes, but I just like Macky better.

>>15256103
Non-main Gundams are occasionally weak. Chaos and Blu Duel got wrecked by mooks.

At least Flauros lost against pretty huge army.

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>Rustal has to resort to literal false-flagging to make McGillis guilty of war crimes
>Uses that as an excuse to fire all 999 Dainsleifs in stock

We are all rooting for /ourguy/ Macky to burn it all to the ground, right?

Rustal and Macky both assholes but at least Rustal can be reasoned with.

that kid who quit tekkadan in the beginning of s1 was a genius

>>15256154
Well wouldn't he be allowed to try his one of the seven stars heads and he said people have tried before so it is not like it was forbidden.
Hell if anyone is allowed to try pilot it is him or any other seven stars member.

>>15256026
>>15256134
it did though, Kira's asspull survival of the Freedom's reactor meltdown was better thought out than that bullshit stalling Juileta magically managed to do coupled with that snipe of a throw. the amount of plot convenience armor Rustal's side has just to drag the story on is literally offensive.

>>15256146
he killed Gaelio because if he didn't he would attack Mika as well at Edmonton, stopping his plans. He had Carta fight Mika because the next person to take over the regulatory fleet would be McGillis.

>>15256041
Yep, Shino should have just taken shots at Rustal from the start.
He was expecting his infiltrator to fire a Dainsleif at a decoy ship, but he would not have expected an attack on his own one.

>>15256159
Blu Duel's pilot was a retarded slut. It had nothing to do with the Gundam.

Though I guess that's also true of Shino

>>15256146

He needed to disband/destabilize the seven stars so he could get the political standing in Gjallarhorn necessary for this revolution we see unfolding right now.

Gaelio and Carta would never agree with starting a political struggle within their own families to help Bauduin's adopted fuck boy. Why is this so hard for you to comprehend.

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>>15256161
yes, I believe in based macky to set things right.
Godspeed fareed.

>>15256161
McGillis was doing illegal research and has an illegal system implanted in him, which was actually the only requirement for Bael to move

Neither give half a shit about legality, just appearances.

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>>15256136

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>>15256143
>There are people who unironically still believe Rustal is the good guy

>>15256164
Yeah and then he will send Jim Raynor to start a war just to mess with you.
Gaelio is a giant retard for sucking Rustal's cock.

>>15255609
Apparently Reddit is throwing a shitstorm about how much they hate team Meat, well the cute monkey to be exact :/

>>15256180
The point is he didn't need a revolution.

>>15256161
Sure seems believable that you had an entire Deinsleif execution squad at the ready a few seconds after your opponent fired one deinsleif.

>>15256182
I thought allah-vagina wasn't illegal just really frowned upon.

>>15256189
>posting /ourgirl/ while insulting /ourguy/
fuck off rat

>>15256191

Julieta did nothing wrong.

>>15256191
Reddit's full of retarded, jobless kids who believe government is evil but then turn around and say we should have more government regulations for everything and government run free college funds and healthcare (for the fattest country in the world).

>>15256191
That's everyone not on 4chan.

>>15256143
>winning
Next episode will probably end with McGillis going kaikaku doori and somehow buttfucking Rustal. Lets face it he is going to job hard, McGillis will become King of Gjallarhorn and part ways with Tekkadan on bad terms, setting up the showdown between Bael and Barbatos.

>>15256161

War isn't always black and white. Considering civilians got nuked to end ww2, a bit of false-flagging to fire banned weapons to curb a coup in comparison very tame.

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>>15256191
>Reddit

>>15256166
Truly

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>>15256200
>/our girl/
>when she fucked with based GARAKUSHII KANON
she is shit and manlet of murder will deliver justice upon her.

>>15256168
Don't defend kira while shitting on ibo. You lose credibility

>>15256230
spotted the redditor

>>15256193

How else would a former sex-slave get to the position of power that he wanted, in what is essentially a pseudo-monarchy

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Ripperoni, I still dont know what to paint this guy

>>15256215

47 seems to be that episode where it goes pear shaped with Arianhod, something that throws the battle to utter chaos with the last two being the Isaribi's destruction and subsequent final duel between KV, Bael and Barbatos with Gaelio getting taken over by Ein as he senses not one but two space rats and sinful children

>>15256230
Shino was a retard that deserved death, considering he literally ran headfirst into it for no good reason other than the fact he couldn't control his autistic rage at his own failure.

>>15256211
I agree she did good
Shino was on a suicide mission

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>>15256238
I don't even have an account.
projecting much?

>>15256230
Murder manlet couldn't even stop it from happening like a faggot.
Even if he kills Julietta, Shino ain't coming back, others are still at risk, Houtabi ain't coming back and Mika's on borrowed time if he goes full AV.

>>15256189
>>15256191
>>15256182
This series could just as easily be made with the protagonists/antagonists reversed. Rustal and his team of patriots are defending Gjallarhorn against a powerhungry usurper and the shady mercenaries that back him because they think they're going to become the rulers of mars under Macky's new order.

>>15256253
being a redditor is a mindeset as well

>>15256243
off his "father" and he would have been one of 7 most powerful and the most powerful wanted his dick.

that was hard.

>>15256090
I'd understand if you said it episodes ago when Vidar unmasked himself but this episode from Rustal's method shows how corrupted Gjallarhorn has become

>>15256161
There are no good guys in this conflict. It's incredibly ironic that Gali accused McGillis of being a manipulative prick that uses people like tools when the person he's currently serving under is doing the same. It's safe to say that the people that isn't part of this 'revolution' are the people with any sort of integrity in them.

>>15256248
He had 1 shot and failed

I would have killed myself too

>>15256259
>that was hard.
So was the dickings.

Murderzuki going full DEMON MODE and killing Rustal and Julietta when?

>>15256256
This. Literally the only thing that makes Tekkadan and their allies the 'good guys' in this story is that they have Gundams ergo protagonist status.

>>15256263
One is honest with his subordinates.

The other stabs them in the back.

>>15256270
Also the portrayal of the enemy.
Most of them, if not all, are presented as pricks you can't reason with.

>>15256259


Ill humor you

He's one of the 7 stars now, in a family whose reputation is weakened due to his adoptive father's death. Suspicion is already around him. How does he get to the top of Gjallarhorn, now being in the same position as Iok

>>15256266
It wasn't his fault though. Mika had fucked up and Julietta suddenly pulled an asspull of a shot.

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>>15255609
>He missed the shot

>>15255889
I want to see Bael getting drilled in the bum.

>>15256136
haha

>>15256263
>Gali is supporting someone WAY MORE DANGEROUS than Chochochar is because Chochochar at most screws people on an individual level, Rustal is a fucking monster
>Literally spent Season 2 covering up all sorts of bullshit and criminal dealings

>>15256261
As opposed to McGillis sending some retarded girl to her death, killing his closest confident and son of a Seven Stars family all so he could seize power? And then authorizing illegal experiments on Ein so he, Mcgillis, could get a similar illegal surgery done so he can hijack the Bael, a sacred object for the Gjallarhorn.

Right, McGillis is such a trustworthy and honorable figure and his revolution isn't totally based in bloodshed, betrayal, and madness.

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I follow IBO since the start and I have no idea why Rustal&co are called team meat, what did I miss?

This episode was sponsored by Mike "Like the cock, get the shock" Pence.

>>15256291
No Rustal can be reasoned with and his motives adult.

Macky is just a child with juvenile Asperations

>>15256270
Tekkadan really haven't done anything wrong besides not taking the D because they are human debris. Orga is probably guilty of thinking too big, but considering all the shit that so happened to them because of people's massive hate-boner for them, he had the right idea that no place would be safe to them unless they make sure no one can ever pick on them ever again.

>>15256191
So they want another flawless victory for Tekkadan? Fuck them, then.

>IBO writers try to write morally grey war scenarios

>/m/ struggles to find a righteous hero to root for

>Both sides can be reversed, Gaelio and Rustal are the heroes we need!!!11!!!!!!


It's just a war in which neither side is totally 'correct'. Stick to super sentai if this is too hard for you. Both sides are shit and no combatant is just here.

>>15256306
go back to their first scene on ep 1

>>15256309
Rustal can be reasoned with, but it's probably just another ruse to stab you in the back because the man next to you suddenly pulled out a gun and Rustal was simply defending himself for your murder-boner.

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>>15256313
>space rat realizes that he's wrong
>decides to play the centrist card

>>15256313
we know we are just siding with wich morally grey side we like better.

>>15256291
>>Gali is supporting someone WAY MORE DANGEROUS than Chochochar is because Chochochar at most screws people on an individual level, Rustal is a fucking monster

How is having your own allies killed in a plot to seize power over a global government fucking with people on an individual level? Rustal may be corrupt but he's one of many leaders in a relatively stable government and as such basically has a track record for maintaining that stability. And he's not a chuuni who believes piloting a particular gundam makes him the chosen one.

>>15256311
>he had the right idea that no place would be safe to them unless they make sure no one can ever pick on them ever again.
That would require killing everyone else.

>>15256313
This. I really think this is the first time in gundam they succed to make everyone grey
I still really dont know for who i am at this point.

>>15256324
Except that stability require stomping down on everyone and everything, and ensuring on one but him is in control of everything.

>>15255615
>implying Yamagi isnt going to become an Ace

>>15255927
He's the deadliest thing in the Gundam franchise, a competent villain

>>15255889
HNNNNG

I laughed like a fucking idiot when this happened

>>15256325
Or just kill enough that people would think twice about attacking them, but considering the verse's irrational hate-boner for human debris, it probably would require killing everyone.

>>15256329
You think McGillis will be any different?

>>15256276
Controlling the mars branch and taking hold of an alliance between three of the major families is hardly the same position as Iok.

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>This episode

Fuck Orga in general. The sooner he dies, the sooner everyone is safe.

>>15256339
That doesn't work for Gjallarhorn.

>>15256313
There's nothing gray about this. McGillis is going to be the exact kind of evil, possibly worse, than Gjallarhorn already is. Except he wants to cause a revolution and get thousands of people killed for no reason other than to have more personal power.

If both sides represent the same thing but one wants to cause a war for personal gain it's not so gray anymore.

McGillis believes in the same "right to rule" bullshit as Gjallarhorn, maybe even more so since he believes piloting Bael makes him the rightful leader of the world and symbol of righteousness. He's probably diddled or will diddle Gali's sister. He has 0 problems using child soldiers and pitting them against an impossible enemy. He definitely believes in hierarchies since he believes strength and power are the true determinants of your place in the world.

In what way is this guy supposed to be better? You can look at his ideologies and philosophy and see he's the same thing as the rest of Gjallarhorn, he just wants to be the big guy in charge.

Guys what if, just what if
It's 100% hypothetical scenario
McGillis retrieved and rebuilded Hashmal as his last resort and he's going to unleash it on Arianhrod fleet?
This plan could go as following:
>put Hashmal in empty ship
>Arianhrod shoots it down
>Oh shieet waddup Hashmal emerges
>Hashmal destroys all fleet, if it's destroyed earlier Rustal is much much weaker
>If Hashmal wrecks all of Meat team and proceeds to attack Mackie he knows he can count on Mikazuki and Barbatos to do what they did last time

It would suit his character and we have ,,betraying" of Tekkadan also done.

Only drawback to my hypothesis?
...It would have been used already.


But seriously even I came up with better keikaku than him

>>15255889

Why does the axe appear to be falling at the end, shouldnt it just drift away? Why are the legs and arms flailing like that?

This animation is garbage.

>>15256341
No, of course not. Both sides are fucked up. There is no 'right' side in this war. Tekkadan should have just remained in Teiwaz and they could have found their home, but then came fucking Iok and his system-wide aura of 'Fuck my shit up'.

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>people missed this segment
>>15256313
>implying you can't root for a a non moral ideal or people you favour more
People like Tekkadan and want them to live despite stance, people don't like either and want Meat to win despite douchebaggery.

>>15256311
That reasoning doesn't really hold up after S1. Tekkadan aren't underdogs anymore. They're a big player in intergalactic dealings.
There was room for the company to organically grow without taking sides in Gjallarhorn's internal conflict.
There was no good reason to team up with McGillis, especially considering that their ties made them a liability to Taiwaz. A key point of this season is how they blindly keep charging forward, despite there being no good reason to take such risky actions.
Naze pointed out that Orga's false sense of urgency was dangerous.

>>15256373
The thing is, no matter how big of a player they become, they are still human debris. There will always be someone that's out to ensure they fail because of their irrational hate-boner. It's just how this verse works. Human debris aren't allowed to succeed.

>>15255889
Why is Gali sparing these people? He only drilled through the waist it looks like, the cockpit is in the chest.

>>15256353
Still, everyone is selfish or use bad methods to achieve their goals, also they are all a bunch of savages with no pity on the battlefield.

Maybe everyone is just black

Guys, we still haven't see MA operating in space yet, except for the small drone.

And i see no difference between the standardize dansleif ammo and historical data ammo. That lance has to be a plot point to awake a few Hashmals.

>>15256372
what Guts mean by this?

>>15256382
It's either Rustal's orders or Ein projecting his no-killing bullshit into Gali.

>>15255668
because that's a ship killing railgun

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wtf i like Gundam Bael now.

Shame it still only has swords for weapons.

>>15255814
I think Julietta is going to make it through the whole thing imo. Gali Gali will be there to save her.

>Hands off my monkey orphan

>>15256388
he's talking about how lafter died and how he doesn't want a girl other than her

Will the HG Flauros sales skyrocket now?

>iok is on Rustal's ship
>Second time a direct shot at a ship misses
Do you think it's a coincidence ?

>>15256381
They've already succeeded though.
This wasn't the time to keep going on the offensive. This was the time to secure their power base, build from there and wait for opportunities with good risk/reward balances.

Patience is a virtue Orga doesn't poses and now everybody is paying for it.

>>15256353

But I just said it's morally gray, not that either side is "better" than the other. Please take that into consideration before going on a tangent about why you think Rustal is justified in his actions.

Rustal is definitely the most level headed and effective commander in IBO. That doesn't make all of his actions righteous or correct. It's morally gray. And that's the intention of the writers here, as flawed as it is.

Show me your face when Julieta survives the series.

why does rustal get mad at iok for doing retarded shit like using dainslef but then use them himself

>>15255992
>tfw No flashbacking to explain his motives to use super robot names.

>>15256403
My bet is that it probably has a plasma beam cannon, just to really make it final boss status.

yfw Gali and Iok reform Gallarjhorn

>>15256414
But as Jasley has shown, there is no such thing as a safe haven for them. As long as they are not at the top, there will always be someone that will kick them down, no matter the cost.

>>15256422

Because Iok didn't have an inside man/woman in Turbines to fire the first dainslef. Are you paying attention to the fine details?

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>>15256421

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>>15256168
>Kira's asspull survival of the Freedom's reactor meltdown was better thought out than that bullshit stalling Juileta magically managed to do coupled with that snipe of a throw

No. No it was absolutely was not.

This is just about the most laughable thing i've read in these IBO threads.

You are actually defending the most bullshit "should have died" moment in the entire franchise from over 30 years of material. Kudos.

>>15256425
>Beams
>in the world where beams are shit

>>15256313
I was thinking that the whole time, I actually appreciate shows that shows no one is a hero or villian, just human.

Rustal is fucked next episode, Tekkadan always gets the revenge power up

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>>15256421

>>15256161
The point is to end the battle quickly so all the not-hardcore Gjhallas stop fighting. Rustal doesn't want to win at the cost of the system he is trying to protect and fix. Choco literally will just burn everything to the ground no matter how much chaos results.

Besides you know what is worse than using a really effective gun to end a military coup? A military coup.

>>15256103
Dude, Flauros was damaged and Shino was wounded.

If it wasn't for that, then he'd have hit the jackpot with the Super Galaxy Cannon

>>15256447
nothing wrong with Juli tanking Mika for a bit, but the throw did look like it was bullshit

>>15256451
Plasma beam, not lasers.

>>15256403
>tfw can't pull off that pose because of the shitty Action Base connector

Fucking hell Bandai

>>15256464
It was because Iok stepped in front of Rustal. His plot armor caused the laws of probability to go fuck itself in the ass and made her throw go from 0, to 100% success of a hit.

>>15256353
>>15256313
Overall Gjallarhorn is a pretty awful organization though
>child trafficking/grooming
>election fraud
>assassinations
>human experiments
>instigating war for personal gain
>use of illegal weapons against civilians
>cover up of war crimes
>false flag and suicide attacks
>mass deployment of "illegal" weapons

Not sure if it would be better under McGillis but he is at least right when he calls it corrupt and rotten.

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>Flauros did fuck-all before biting the dust
At least pic-related probably pulled some feats before getting sealed away with Hashmal.

>>15256474
A Tamashii stage might be able to help it.

>>15256313
Man people without beliefs are really sad huh?

>>15256493
>Pilot probably ejected before causing a cave in or soemthing
>or the pilot fighting down Hashmal to the death until it could be momentarily stopped
Flauros-origin side story when?

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>>15256493
nope, it died by a Pluma, see the two pointed things at the side, a pluma is hugging its chest, It died by a fucking shitty grunt.

Is there a chart for Tekkaden headcounts?

>>15256508
Where there's Flauros Origin there's going to be a Barbatos Origin since the two were both found on Mars.

>>15256456
yeah mika seems to not take it that much seriously until he has someone to avenge for. like he was just taking it easy on carta's blonde crew until carta managed to kill biscuit. he couldn't do anything during naze death part but getting revenged for them motivated him to go ham on jasley. and now he was still taking his breather on the weak monkey until it killed his close friend which will enable his beast mode again

>>15256519
>A shitty grunt
>A
>Implying not 9001 shitty grunts

>watched love live concert which is full of positivity, not to mention announcement of sunshine s2 and the seiyuu's second live
>went home watching this shit and made me as pissed as shino
thanks sunrise
and kill yourself okada

>>15256519
Then how did Hashmal get cratered nearby? Flauros wasn't even that badly damaged. It probably trapped Hasmal in a pit but then got dogpiled by Plumas.

>>15256561
>S1. No one dies. FUCK YOU OKADA
>S2. People dies. FUCK YOU OKADA
Okada just can't win, can she?

>>15256463
>If it wasn't for that, then he'd have hit the jackpot with the Super Galaxy Cannon
You mean if it wasn't for the monkey. It was hard to catch but she just managed to get a glancing blow on Flauros right before it fired.

>>15255927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJXKVOxqkWM
How can one man be so based?!

>>15256146
Carta wouldn't turn against Iznario.

>>15256530
Form V is Barbatos Origin

LOCKON! LOCKON!

>>15256580
You mean if it wasnt for Mika fucking up they would be King?
I wonder if getting making Shino miss and subsequently killing him will weigh on Mikas lack of conscience

>>15256433
>>15256433
Jasley was only even able to act because Tekkadan had already gotten in bed with McGillis.

You know what would piss me off? If the revelation that Barbatos is Bael's brother unit isn't foreshadowing that the two will fight each other, but foreshadowing the two unit uses an unknown combination technique that let's McGillis win this war.

>>15256610
Jasley would have acted with or without Tekkadan working with McGillis.

>>15256596

>Carta's boner for Mcgillis VS her loyalty to her master

That's a tough call, but the Orbital Joint Regulatory Fleet under her is basically a joke until Mcgillis took it over so I'm not sure if it would be considered an asset besides LOL MEAT SHIELD. On the hypothetical scenario of Rustal winning and Iok taking it over it might devolve back into a joke again

>>15256598
you mean form IV, form V was the one with things on the sides of its legs and the reactive armor

>>15256612
You'd think those weird power symbols on their armor won't d

>>15256411
Of course
Amidas ms skyrocketed after her death

Large scale mobile suit battle are so stupid without beam weapons.

>>15256619
Hell Jasley would've acted without Tekkadan, most of this shit stems from Naze and Teiwaz inner politics.

>>15256306
Back in the first episode of S2 Rustal offers to take Julietta and Iok out for meat after the 7 stars meeting.

>>15255827
This boy never grew up.

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>>15256421
She's outside if the gem like lafter was. She's dying next ep.

>>15256646
So really, the only argument for Orga reinventing suicide as a group activity was something that would have happened anyway.

>>15256612
SYMATRICAL DOUCKIIINGG!!!!!!!!!

>>15256481
How dare you. GJALLARHORN are the good guys!

>>15256612
The only way Tekadan doesnt get betrayed is if there is a IBO Destiny spin off for them to get betrayed later

>>15256388

He is fighting for his family right now, and Tekkadan is the only family's he's got left and nothing else matters. To Mika, Hush and Aki it's about protecting Tekkadan and the goal of getting there. Guys like Shino, Zack and Eugene just want the taste of good liquor and sleeping with hot women like any guy their age is.

>>15256561
Tf is lovelive

So, how long before Rustal scraps out the remains of Shino and turn him into Alaya-Vjinana Type S System for Juiletta?

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>>15256403
Bael is a qt. I really want to see it in action properly.

>>15256682
But now Eugene wants true love

>>15255681
I kind of want only Orga and McG to serve, and old Orga spends all his time travking down McGillis to kill him.

>>15255609

This episode served only to confirm we all knew it long time ago that Rustal and their top staffers are literally using random aspull powerups + Kirito's plot convenience for Kira's plot armor just as Gali Gali.

Please strap it on the next thread.

>>15256704
>Salty faggot mad because protagonists got rused and destroyed

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His mecha is PINK.

Just confess your stupid twat. He would have probably fucked you in the ass right there.

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I dunno, maybe if he didn't try to 360 no-scope boom headshot, even a slight alteration in projected trajectory would not have caused a direct miss.

>>15256406
I hope you're right anon

>>15256709
hey delusional galifag, are your blind or retarded?

please go back to >>>/r/eddit

>>15255796

The thing I miss most in this show is that the fact there are no grunt suits being cut in half by beam sabers. Mika has plot armour, but no cool way of showing it.

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>>15256678
You can't get betrayed if everyone is dead.

>>15256722
>Muh reddit boogeyman
Cry harder.

>>15256704
>/m/ complaining that Galjhorn was full of dumb incompetent people
>Galhjhorn becomes competent
>fukin asspull dis sux

>>15256344
After this episode, I don't think Orga is going to die anymore. Okada's going to pull an A/Z and have him living in time-out having to think about his mistakes

>Shino dies without a flashback episode

Just how UNIMPORTANT is he?

>>15256572
Shino's death felt like a waste to be because his character was so undeveloped and went nowhere.

>>15256722
>butthurt fujoshit calling anyone else a redditor
Oh i am laffin.

>>15256326
>>15256313
Fuck off they have

They just made everyone unlikeable, lack clear motives and inhuman. Thus people side with the slightly more human and slightly more relevant

This is mot well written moral greyness, cause then it would be a tough choice between valid well developed sides with flaws. Like say a world government that is corrupt and wants peace or a side wishing for freefom and insipendency but leads to supremacy OH WAIT

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>You will never go full chuuni in the best mobile suit

>>15256729
It's the same shitposter when Galifags errupted over episode 43 and kept linking threads on shit and crying about it.
Just ignore it.

>>15256755
>>15256755

>>15256738
99.9% of gundam characters

>>15256729
>incompetent forever
>suddenly not cause plot needs it
>why wont you guys appreciate the amazing and complex story?

>>15256372
Guts has the best one-liners. I lol'd hard at this then immediately felt bad.

>>15256781
>Man who has been a trickster compared to the others since start of season does tricky thing
>wah

>>15256015
Not hard since Mika was the one who fucked up in the first place

>>15256361
Hiltler kun dont showed up since first episode of s2.

>>15256372
>No Guts and Ride ending to help to rebuild Turbines alongside Aze.
I fuck really wish this.

i like the panic face mcgilis made when he saw those rounds inbound.

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>>15256421

>>15256711
IT'S MAGENTA!