Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

>>15223860
Mika best boy

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>>15223865
He was so smooth and cute with her, if the murder midget actually got some action he deserve it

>>15223860
>Previous thread still on page one
For what purpose?

>>15223911
It's an /m/ thing apparently.

That was rather underwhelming...

Were the new rats the only new figures announced?

>>15223946
>It's an /m/ thing
>When a thread from November is still alive and well.
/m/ is a slow board, even if it reach bump limit it still can stay alive for two days at least.

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So McGillis plans was basically this.

>>15223960
It's one guy obsessively making these threads over and over the moment they hit the bump limit.

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>>15223911
You can't stop the IBO hype train faggit.

>>15223978
As expected of a manchild.

>>15223978
Bael might have some gimmick that we don't know about yet.

>>15223978
He thought people would follow him becasue he could pilot a Gundam. Also it seems all he has in his fleet is the young officers who were swept up by him. He literally needs Tekkadan.

Like Alimira said, He's crazy.

>Remember that IBO is written by OKADA and not by retarded gaeliofags.

>>15223978
Phase 2-Kill Rustal's faction and Gaelio with the help of Tekkedan,then betray Tekkedan.

>>15223978
He's a buttmad manbaby, he can't formulate actual end goals.

Why they change Vidar armor into new kimaris?

It is better for large scale space combat with new equipment or just as a symbol to proclaim that Bauduin family heir is alive and not supporting the Bael propaganda ?

>>15223990
>>Remember that IBO is written by OKADA and not by retarded gaeliofags.

OKADA is as retarded as the gaeliofags. It's just a different kind of retard. The ending will be shit and won't make a lick of sense.

>>15223982
>You can't stop the IBO hype train faggit.

Go back to fucking your would-be mother Char.

>>15224002

Probably both.

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Is McGillis the dumbest char in the franchise?
Even Cronicle wasn't as stupid.

>>15223978
More like

Be corrupt ? End Corruption

>>15223946
It's just /vp/ leaking around.

>>15223947
Don't say that we didn't warn you.

So is it fair to say S2 is redeeming the whole series?

This has been a pretty fucking good ride so far.

>>15223946
No fuck you, OP. If you're not OP, you're just as much of a newfag as OP.
It's not an /m/ thing. It's not even a fucking /a/ thing as you'd get mocked for doing the same shit.

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>>15224010
Forgot the part at the bottom.

>>15224002
>Why they change Vidar armor into new kimaris?
Must sell toys.

I want all of these jokefucks and their piss poor Gundams to die so they can focus on creating the true masterpiece that is Gundam 00 S3.

McGillis just wants power over the men who probably knowingly allowed Fareed to rape him. Which makes this sort of logical from his twisted perspective.

>>15223982
>hype train
>102 IPs in the previous thread (as of this post)
>barely any other threads made outside the general
Man, you have a very low standard for what counts as hype.

>>15224010
Zeheart was a blind retard for shouldering Ezelcant's nonsensical plan.

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Was Vidar actually Kimaris all along?

>>15224047
I've not watched AGE so I'll take your word for that.

>>15224035
Mediocre as fuck but without comparison with the pit of feces that S1 is.

>>15223982
Are you OP? Because that would explain the autistic naming of these threads along with Mika spam.

>>15223990
So you're saying that this show is completely doomed?

>>15223982
What hype? Fucking Aldnoah Zero threads had more posters and threads move at a faster rate.

>>15224048
No way

>>15224048
Yes.
Wonder how S2 went if Vidar wasn't a thing and Gali straight up revealed himself.
Would he still use Kimaris that early?

>>15224078
AZ had threads 24/7 on /a/ while it was airing and between cours.

>Attention!!!

I don't need subtitles, but I decided to verify the HorribleSubs subtitles (39 ~ 43).

He's full of absurd mistakes who can completely change the meaning of a sentence.

>>15224078
We could have stuck to AZ, why didn't we listen?

>>15224047
BUt he knew it was complete BS, He went on with the plan because of high bodycount allready.
Imagine he said the truth: Lolol Ezelcant was lying old man, we died for nutting. Shit would go even further south

>>15224099
McGillis would of been killed before he got to the mobile armor.

Those two seven star fucks just gave McGillis the go ahead to get the Mobile Armor and unleash it on the world, they litearlly said they dont have to obey people with gundams because that was only when they needed a strong man to defeat the Mobile Armor.

>>15224048
>Was Vidar actually Kimaris all along?

What was the point of Vidar ? Can somebody explain it clearly what the fucking point was ?
Dummy reactors ? Damn, it's like IBO is being driven by a 2 year old (and a 2 year old has more logic than the idiot that's writing this shit).

>>15224131

Muh Char, etc.

>>15224130
No they refused to help him. Bael is a Gundam not a mobile armor.

They never gave him any kind of go ahead, they just don't have the authority to stop him.

>>15224131
Testing platform for the new system.
Dummy reactors were there to hide its signature.

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So outside of bane meme replies why did he wear the mask?

>>15224047
He was just too invested by that point to back out. In contrast ChocoChar came up with the retarded plan himself.

Which turned out to be "get Bael -> everyone stands down -> ??? -> profit".

>>15224131
To hide Gaelio'S identity. If it was Kimaris, everybody would know it's him. And since Ahab reactors all have a unique wavelength, they need to switch them in order to not be recognized as Kimaris.

>>15224107
Those were always the same people circlejerking and speculating bullshit so I wouldn't say it was really hype either.

Is Takaki the only real winner of IBO?
>freed from his Human Debris status and slave labour
>moved to Earth
>got to enroll his sister in a decent school
>probably got a proper job
And, most of all
>ditched Tekkadan before they started the whole shitshow
I bet he looks at the news every morning and breathes a heavy sigh of relief.

>>15224144
I'm saying they basically just give him the idea that the MA is what is necessary to make Bael seem forever relevant even to men like them.

>>15224130
Not even Choco can pull a MA out of his ass.

>>15224147
>. If it was Kimaris, everybody would know it's him.
someone else could just be using it. Apparently gundams get stolen and repurposed all the time

>>15224158
The Baudwin family would demand to give it back. It's their family MS. Rustal can hardly defy another Seven Stars family.

>>15224041
>Must sell toys.
It's not getting a kit, or at least nothing has been announced so far and they only have the kits planned to release until March

>>15224152

Takaki was never Human Debris.

But yes.

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>>15224007
>>15224046
>>15224061
>>15224078


Same fagging that hard.

Lol it's a hype, it's a fact. Even in /a/ it's trending.

Admit it, /m/ have slowly like this show, only UC fags and A/Z fags are the ones who can't accept this because of MUH PLAGIARISM.

>>15224145
Gali's a big guy

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>>15224157

>>15224158
>someone else could just be using it.
No
>Apparently gundams get stolen and repurposed all the time
No


Kill yourself

>>15224157
>Not even Choco can pull a MA out of his ass.

To be honest, he does have a pretty big ass. So yeah, it might hurt but he can definitely pull out a MA out of his ass. Especially if Okada deems it necessary

>>15224145
Everyone knows Quattro is Char

Yet he still wears the sunglasses and pretends he isn't Char.

What's the deal with that

>>15224158

Kimaris' "remains" were returned to the Bauduins, and what >>15224162 said. Kimaris was basically a Bauduin family heirloom and someone else using it would've been a big issue.

>>15224162
>The Baudwin family would demand to give it back
>give it back
>no

>>15224178
Say it was stolen. Not even a big lie as we've seen people just acquire gundams

>>15224154
They still partially respected the authority or it might of been being held at gunpoint.

>>15224035
I'm really liking it. The characters could have interacted a lot better, but from s1 shit to s2 solid and enjoyable ride.

>>15224157
We still not sure how wide has papa Fareed stretch his ass.

>>15224182
>as we've seen people just acquire gundams
>just acquire gundams

This has never happened in the entirety of the show

>>15223989
Basically she'll become his ideal wife who's as broken as he is.

>>15224182
One Seven Star family can't just use the suit of another Seven Star family. They are not pirates, they have honor.

>>15224182
Doesn't matter how Arianrhod got it, it's Bauduin's.

All the Gundams in the show that Tekkadan got were dug up and unclaimed.

>>15223978
The more nonsensical McGillis gets, the more I want to cuddle him.

it's ok, they said
chocoman being a legit pedophile is just a meme, they said

>>15224188

McGillis just strolled into the fucking Gjallarhorn Gundam Hall of Fame and acquired Bael.
Gaelio just took his Gundam out of storage probably from the same place.
Tekkadan literally just found one buried in a mine they got and Shino got it because he called dibs.

So yes, people "just acquire" Gundams in this show.

>>15224197
>got were dug up and unclaimed.
Or killed the pilot and repurposed

In fact they got most MS that way. So in battle is a pretty standard way of acquiring them

>>15224203
It's chocolate-filled madness.

>>15224213
Like Gundam Gusion.

>>15224207
>McGillis just strolled into the fucking Gjallarhorn Gundam Hall of Fame and acquired Bael.
>Gaelio just took his Gundam out of storage probably from the same place.

Thats not really just acquiring them they've had them there for generations.

>Tekkadan literally just found one buried in a mine they got and Shino got it because he called dibs.
Yeah Tekkadan does just get gundams, ones hooked up to a pmc base, one is used by random pirates and they find one in a mine.

>>15224213
>In fact they got most MS that way.
Only in S1, now their mainstay is the Shiden which they got from Teiwaz. They only have like 3 or 4 rebuilt ms.

>>15224213
Whoops, totally forgot about Gusion.

And it was never claimed by Gjallarhorn. That's the difference between Kimaris and the others. Kimaris is the personal property of the Bauduin family and if it passes out of their hands without their approval, they'll want it back.

You can bet that if Kimaris popped up somewhere, even under control of Gjallarhorn, Gali's dad would've demanded the return of his dead son's steel coffin.

>>15224222
Plus Gali was within his rights since it was his family's one.
Bael was a universal one for GH

>>15224230
Gjallarhorn could have been pretty cool if they didn't decide to make them retarded.

>>15224229
>And it was never claimed by Gjallarhorn
While never said, do seem to claim some right over the gundam frames

>Gali's dad would've demanded the return
So what? All of them have little fights and then just do what they want, they have not shown to be a very effective system.

Plus if he gave that much of a shit he should have known it was missing in the first place

>>15223978
To think that someone here used to insist in early season that Chocoman would make sure that Gali won't get away alive because it would contradict with his genius mastermind plan.

>Gaelio with AV Type E and Julieta vs. Mika, McGillis, Guts, Shino and Ride all with AV

How can this NOT end in Destiny 2.0?

>>15224035
S2 is great and didnt have weak arc like dort also better animation and imprevisible plot wich makes it more fun to watch.

And Iok.

Uh, was it implied that Pedochar kissed his underage waifu in that part where they show a closeup of her eye, right before his subordinate comes in?

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Guys, dont forget Iok.

He will come back and fucks everything.

>>15224244
McGillis loves to stab people in the back and doesn't like sharing authority.

Was kind of surprised Orga was more worried about taking losses at this point than his ally betrayed everyone he worked with previously.

Speculation time.

Rustal began looking into McGillis the moment he seized power from his father and took control of a fleet. He found Gaelio and Kimaris but Gaelio, traumatized and somewhat in denial, didn't want to bring down his ex-friend quite yet. He wanted to know why he had been betrayed and what McGillis' ultimate goal was. Rather than force Gaelio, Rustal gave him a long leash. He'd keep him hidden and would even repair Kimaris. In return, Gaelio would serve as a subordinate until he came to a decision.

>>15224238
>While never said, do seem to claim some right over the gundam frames
Yes, but only ones their ancestors fought in. Each of the seven stars families are descended an original Gundam pilot and to them their family gundams are literally family heirlooms. To them other gundams are just MS originally used by some pilot who never decorated themselves enough to become a founding member of the seven starts.

>Plus if he gave that much of a shit he should have known it was missing in the first place
Seeing how the underlying frames are pretty much the same it shouldn't be too hard to just put the armor from Kilimaris on some random Gundam and pass it off as the real thing. It wouldn't be the least bit unbelievable for Rustal to be able to get his hands on a random gundam that isn't a seven stars heirloom roughly the same way Tekkadan got the Gusion.

>>15224238
Well, Gjallarhorn in its infancy did manufacture the Gundam Frames. But despite their symbolism and important history, Gjallarhorn has kept their distance from them. Modern Gjallarhorn has nothing that invokes Gundam's in any way. Bael is kept locked up and inactive, as both the symbolic (and maybe literal) holder of their founders soul. The Bauduin's have a Gundam as an heirloom but Gaelio only brought it out of storage in order to fight Mika on a more even level.

>>15224280
>Yes, but only ones their ancestors fought in.
I think in general a military cares about super weapons. If a family just died out it still isn't smart to get eh let the kids play with it what could go wrong.

>put the armor from Kilimaris on some random Gundam and pass it off as the real thing
Well the whole reason it is an issue is you can tell that shit, even if they went oh the reactor and whatever computer shit is too busted for us to tell there should be some serial number or markings. Plus even if they faked that all, at this point the whole plan is requiring way more effort than just not hiding it and dealing with those issues.

>>15224277
>He found Gaelio and Kimaris but Gaelio, traumatized and somewhat in denial, didn't want to bring down his ex-friend quite yet.
He would have had to have been looking into it before McGillis took control of the fleet to grab Gaelio.

>He wanted to know why he had been betrayed and what McGillis' ultimate goal was. Rather than force Gaelio, Rustal gave him a long leash. He'd keep him hidden and would even repair Kimaris. In return, Gaelio would serve as a subordinate until he came to a decision.

Seems like what happened.

Rustal seems to like having Gaelio as a subordinate.

>>15224292
Oh right, wasn't quite sure of the timeframe for McGillis' promotion. I wouldn't be surprised if Rustal was keeping tabs on McGillis even before Edmonton but that's kind of irrelevant. The earliest thing he had on Chocoman came after Edmonton in the form of Gaelio.

>>15224244
>McGillis chimps out when Bael didn't have Agnika's soul like the legend says
>instead it looks like Barbatos has it instead since it's a sister unit to Bael
>betrays Tekkadan after the rustal fleet has been destroyed in order to take Barbatos since he's not satisfied with Bael alone now
>Tekkadan fights back

>>15224300
It could have been after Dort.

He did let Tekkadan go it could have been to see who was behind them.

>Iok gets a fucking gundam

>>15224280
If they had another frame why not just use that?

Like I get muh family bullcrap but really you need to work with what you got.

>>15224291
>I think in general a military cares about super weapons. If a family just died out it still isn't smart to get eh let the kids play with it what could go wrong.
The thing about GH is that it's not a normal army, feudal type system which has been demonstrated time and time again to be very much dysfunctional. McGillis wants to reform it because of how dysfunctional it is.

>Well the whole reason it is an issue is you can tell that shit, even if they went oh the reactor and whatever computer shit is too busted for us to tell there should be some serial number or markings. Plus even if they faked that all, at this point the whole plan is requiring way more effort than just not hiding it and dealing with those issues.
As long as they don't activate it, which they don't really have a reason to do as they no longer have a pilot for it, it shouldn't be too hard to pass off a random Gundam as the Kilimaris when they bolt on all of the Kilimars' unique parts. Even if they activate it, it requires them to specifically look at the ahab wave frequency to identify the reactor.

As for why Rustal would bother to go trough this, it probably wouldn't even be that big of thing after they've already concealed Gaelio's survival of the battle of Edmonton. He most probably did it to placate Gaelio's feudalistic sensibilities to convince him to work for Rustal.

>>15224316
>If they had another frame why not just use that?
GH is a feudalistic system and those kinds of systems usually come with some rather backwards moral codes and traditions. After all, the corruption and often very dysfunctional nature of GH is a big part of the plot of the whole series.

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Where's the Amdusias retard now??

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>guy does 40 page doujin about this random background girl from Dort getting raped

>>15224316
My pet theory is they didn't and Gali's father was too broken up about his dead son to take a closer look.

And having the Kimaris is somewhat important. It its reactor signature isn't disguised, then it is immediately verifiable as the Kimaris. Someone broadcasting that they're a dead person might not convince people that he's really Gaelio Bauduin, who's dead. But he's broadcasting from a MS with Kimaris' reactor signature. Assuming that a specific signature can't be faked, which seems to be the case so far, it's a useful tool.

And if Rustal did have another Gundam frame, letting Gaelio keep Kimaris would be an act of good faith.

>>15224317
>The thing about GH is that it's not a normal army
Even a poorly run dysfunctional system doesn't want super weapons lying about the place for weird lizard and pig men to get. It doesn't benefit a feudal system for that to happen.

>As long as
See that is the issue, if they don't activate or examine it (I'm pretty sure in the past just looking at the computer diagnostic stuff it identifies the MS) they get away with it which isn't likely. Just getting put into storage that should be looked at for simple reasons like you don't want it being so damaged it blows up. But I guess Rustal also reprogrammed it and paid everyone off as well and when Gali's dad asked he did ten somersaults that distracted him long enough to forget. Again at this point not being so tricky is easier

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>>15223978
>Implying it wouldn't be Bael going out of control killing everyone only to be put down by Mika, who will die after unlocking final mode.

>>15224328
>GH is a feudalistic system and those kinds of systems usually come with some rather backwards moral codes and traditions.
Like I get muh family bullcrap but really you need to work with what you got. At this point it is just the plot really wants it to be that way so fuck everything, even though you could easily write it to be he is forced to use another one and the implication from that create a more interesting dynamic.

Rustal's smug o-face when Gaelio was announcing his return is just too good.

>>15224152
funny part is, if Takaki was around,he could have eventually filled Biscuit's role of reining in Orga's recklessness and avoid everything going to shit. Now all they have is pompadour kid.

>>15223860
The death flag is strong with this one.

Why is Rustal the badguy again? He seems the most sensible guy in the show.

>>15224348

Because blah blah blah he's the system maaaayne gotta fight the power

>>15224348
muh orphans?

or maybe muh family?

>>15224348
He isn't really the bad guy, he's just the current antagonist this season.

>>15224348
He wants to keep the status quo.

>>15223882
This is kind of hilarious to actually say, but Tomino told me himself that he has seen SEED.

I met him at a Tomino convention in Houston not long after SEED aired, and asked him what he thought about it. He said it was a fine successor, but he wished that they had used a more realistic type of space colony.

And yes, the city presented him with a 10-gallon hat. It was Texas.

>>15224348
He puts keeping order over all else.

He looks relatively good because everyone else has really vague goals.

>>15223978
He should have gone the ol' seduce old gjallarhorn men with whorehouse skills and placate child soldiers with gobs of chocolate route instead, to get what he wanted.

>>15224348
He's not really the villain.

But he's an enforcer of the status quo, and the status quo is Gjallarhorn violating its own rules and breaking its own taboos. The status quo is one where the exploited underclass are off-world, whether in space colonies or further off on Mars or beyond. The status quo is child soldiers, slavery, and ruinous economic conditions. The status quo, in Rustal's eyes, is worth all the pain and suffering.

Kudelia represented a bloody but more hopeful alternative. Unfortunately, she's been sidelined and McGillis is the only one championing an end to the status quo. He also happens to be a huge delusional manchild with many (but not enough) followers to who want to change the world with him.

Kudelia will be the third option right?

>>15224367

Change is not necessarily good.

Just look at Russia. "baaaawwww fuck the royals we hate being serfs." Then they kicked the royals out and what did they get?

The fact is that in the world we're living in right now we still have slavery, child soldiers, and all that terrible shit because you can't manage everything that happens in the whole solar system.

The alternative is chaos with all the power to forge a new world consolidated in the hands of an aimless mercenary boss who has no idea what the fuck he's doing or what he even wants, and a psycho who got diddled in the ass and is still chuuni about it to this day.

>>15224377
She's been sidelined.

>>15224344
FEELS GOOD MAN

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>>15224380
It is amazing she went from main character with 80% of the non combat screen time to the show realising she is completely irrelevant

>>15224276
You only say that because you know Macky is a Char, but from Orga's perspective, Choco is the one who needs them right now. He'd be pretty much dead with just his own measly fleet if it weren't for Tekkadan. Of course he won't betray them.

>>15224378
Of course change isn't necessarily good.

But the people who are oppressed or downtrodden aren't always going to just sit there and take it.

You're supposed to feel conflicted on who to root for, if you can even pick one side to root for. The show is framed around a bunch of victims and discards of the status quo rebelling against it, so it'll feel like the status quo are the bad guys. But it's obviously not quite clear cut.

>>15224388
Yeah but what about after the battle?

Also he knows about all the betrayals that should be enough to raise a little doubt.

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I really don't know what to feel about McGillis any more. He's such a bizarre character now.

>>15224384
Her purpose as a character was already fulfilled in S1.

>>15224131
Damn dude chill out you spastic faggot

At this point, I don't give a fuck about the story. All I want is the upcoming mech fight.

Story is shit to begin with anyway.

>>15224384
In S1 she was both the McGuffin and the self insert character for the audience to get to know Tekkadan. But really there was never any need for that since we got to know them just fine even outside of their interaction with Kudelia. That's why she lost all purpose in S2.

>>15224391
Eh status quo is supposed to be pretty bad as the politics in S1 for the conflict is nonsensical for them to be bad.

>>15224145
>Why does someone wear a mask
>In Gundam

You think there will be another Gundam that will appear in the bloodbath?

>>15224396
>Her purpose as a character
that's a stretch, a recording that said "i am useless follow me" would have served her purpose

>>15224145
To hide his identity within the fleet?

>>15224403
Rustals. In the Bael Chamber his familys Gundam closet is open

>>15224391

No, it was ALWAYS clear clut. In the beginning it was clear cut because Gjallarhorn were portrayed as a bunch of completely incompetent literal retards or cackling mustache-twirling villains.

But Tekkadan seriously has yet to display a single redeeming characteristic and the show is in its endgame and they don't even have a fucking goal.

And the man who is at the center of the whole plot, leading the rebellion against Gjallarhorn, is a complete psychopath whose plan is so nonsensical even 9 year olds are astounded.

So now it's clear cut still, in the other direction.

It's like that song "Should I Stay Or Should I Go," where the guy singing the song has a choice between trouble, or double trouble. Gjallarhorn is not good, but the alternative, a world of chaos ruled by Tekkadan and McTraitor, is an abyss of shit.

Vidar is shown 3 times in total, first time it's barely a fight, second time it's not a fight, third time the fight barely starts before it ends.

And now it's gone. Fuck me.

>>15224415
That makes Vidar undefeated though.

>>15224407
Tell that to the person that created her. Her goal has been reached in S1 so there's little point in going back to her aside from seeing what she's been up to.

>>15224412
I think that was Baklazan's? (Old guy)

Must be one of the sidestory gundams

>>15224418
I like your positive thinking.

McGillis confirmed retard:
-didn't confirm the Gaelio kill
-thought all GJ would obey him by piloting Bael
-now no one but his faction trusts him because of all the betrayals

>>15224415
It doesn't matter to Bandai as long as it sells kits.

>>15224391
>You're supposed to feel conflicted
See that is questionable cause the show is so badly written.

Dort workers really stand out the most, the show portrays them as the positive oppressed side who we are meant to feel bad for yet happy when they achieve their goals. Yet if you sit and think about it they are very questionable

Ghorn though are generally shown to be terrible, their rule is meant to be a bad thing yet it is in vogue to have sympathetic villains who also by accident seem to be better protagonists despite a lot less screen time.

It is hard to tell what is intentional and what is incompetence.

>>15224412

That was Baklazan's.

Elion's sigil is Midgardsormr, not the chicken.

Interestingly the chicken/rooster is the one who will cry to call out that Ragnarok has begun in legend.

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>>15224394
His bizarre actions reflect both the fractured and broken state of his psyche as well as the shoddiness of Okada's writing.

>>15224420
>Tell that to the person that created her.
I think a lot of people would tell Okada she is a hack

>>15224393
That depends on whether Tekkadan survived or not.
Case 1: they lose so much of their combat force and personnel that they become irrelevant and unable to fullfill any kind of peacekeeping duty, much less become king of mars.
Case 2: They get out of this relatively unscathed. Even if Macky tries to fuck them over (which is unlikely, since his own force will be depleted), they can still fight back and seize power.
Think of it as you would the aftermath of war. Even among allies only the ones with arguments can make their rights on the loot prevail.

>>15224423
GJ think of the Bael stuff as a legend.

Mobile Armors will appear near the end won't it

>>15224435
yeah and it didn't work, did you watch the ep?

>>15224425
Well, it's been nothing but shades of gray areas with this series.

I was promised sex.
I am upset.

>>15224425
>Dort workers really stand out the most, the show portrays them as the positive oppressed side who we are meant to feel bad for yet happy when they achieve their goals. Yet if you sit and think about it they are very questionable

Its not even hard to make them less questionable, get rid of the hangar scene and they would have been a lot more likable.

The whole armed protest was a bad idea to begin with though.

>>15224434
After the battle he would have the rest of the seven star's support.

If they would have been on par with Arianhrod in size if they worked with him he would have more forces at his disposal after the battle.

Tekkadan also has no way to resupply.

>>15224454
No one is getting any sex ever other than Iznario.

I don't think Macky's character development is bad writing. It's showing how psychos like him are created and nurtured by a corrupted ruling system. He's obviously supposed to be such a mess that even a child can see it.

>>15224451
I did which I why I mentioned that part. They're sceptical about the legend since it's been a long time. To Rustal in particular, it's nothing but a fairytale.

>>15224465

I think it works well because he is pathetic, childish, and incoherent, like the original Char.

That's how Char is supposed to be.

That 2 seven star old guys will remain neutral but why Chocochar dont use the banned weapons? Ibet the Gallhjhorn keeping on Earth. Also theres another gundams of seven star..

>>15224465
Basically, he's a victim of the status quo.

>>15224452
Shades of grey the show presents as positives or negatives without being clear if it realises this.

It seems to have flashes of it at times but even then it doesn't build on it. Take that Mika Orga scene at the end of season 1, everyone believed this was them finally going all out crazy, yet the music didn't fit at all and then they didn't go crazy and instead just did what they always did. In the last episode no one even died and Orga was showed how worried he was about the others.

>>15224470
A true successor to Cronicle Asher.

>>15224442
Nah
Tekk and mcgill will beat arianhod. McG will then blindside one of Tekks gundam pilots and kill them thus starting the final arc of IBO. In the end Makanai + Kudelia + remaining GJ 7 stars will reform world order. Everyone will die except some tekk pilots and Atras baby.
The show will end with a kudelia narration where she name drops the show and says something like " I will never forget those Iron Blooded Orphans "
Cue Op 1

>>15224477

Do you really think a world without Gjallarhorn would be devoid of powerful people abusing childrem?

Is Julieta going to end the show as dead, or a brain in a jar or are she and Gali gonna fug first?

>>15224486
all of those

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>>15223860
So they totally fucked each other senseless, right?

>>15224459
Well, it was either keep the stalemate going or change tactics. The Dort Colonies wouldn't even come to the table.

>>15224413

Sure, but not everyone benefits from the status quo. Those who do have no right to tell those who suffer from it, whether intentionally or as a side-effect, to keep suffering. Rustal's answer to this is to let them keep suffering. His justification is that human debris, child soldiers, even Gjallarhorn's own misdeeds are worth the peace and quiet. But I think those people would disagree with that. And for all the talk of the status quo being worth it, I doubt Rustal or anyone supporter of the status quo would want to switch places with one of the exploited people.

>>15224486

I hope she lives just because she's been steadily, consistently getting development but has failed to do anything but job so far, so to simply kill her off at this point would make her character just a huge shaggy dog story.

Man this ep was filler as fuck, anyone know what was in yamagays visor reflection at the ending credits? And whats the flauros upgrade that was hinted? an actual banned rail gun?

>>15224483
Nah but at least he's trying to change things up even if his methods are...crazy.

>>15224491
>Sure, but not everyone benefits from the status quo. Those who do have no right to tell those who suffer from it, whether intentionally or as a side-effect, to keep suffering.

People will always suffer under every system, hippie. You can't save everybody. What is your point? In the beginning of S2 we even heard straight out of Atra or Kudelia's mouth that Tekkadan's successes against Gjallarhorn eroded their authority and led to the creation of more warlords and child soldiers. So we KNOW, for a FACT, that Rustal's order is a good thing because we know what the alternative is: even more suffering.

>>15224494
How many eps are left again ?

>>15224493

I'm still not entirely sure which direction they're taking her character.

>>15224502
6

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>>15224494
>Man this ep was filler as fuck

You need your eyes testing, this whole episode was a giant middle finger to McGillis and i thought it was fucking hilarious seeing how flimsy and childish his entire plan was in the end.

>>15224428
So it will be Rustal the one than will awaken the MA?
Because that will be end of it anons. Ragnarok. The return of the murder-machines. And only Mika-Baby will save humanity.

>>15224498
He represents the old ways and both seasons have been all about changing the status quo. Rustal will fall. If anything, it can lead to a S3 after a bigger timeskip maybe even with Mika's child as a main character.

>>15223860
Did they fucked?

>>15224518
arent they like 12 years old?

>>15224517

Yes, obviously he is going to fall. So what, he is still correct and Tekkadan are villain protagonists and agents of chaos. Are you saying you can only be right if you win? Seriously, what the fuck is your point?

>>15224517
Rustal is not oppossed to change if it benefits him. He'll support Galeio's reforms

>>15224521
Old enough to breed.

>this will be your last battle
>we march to our last baltle
>hurry up guys this is the last battle
>we're motivated because it's our last battle

They are all going die.

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>Orga doomed everyone
My sides
>>15224348
Because GH is reason that most of s1 and 2 happened and he's keeping status quo.
However, he's reasonable. He's not a prick to his men and at least tries to rectify Iok now. He knows what the hell he's doing.
If he dies then it's good because someone can fix the organisation and not give it to angry orphans and a manchild manwhore.
>>15224382
I love this guy

>>15224533

I hope so... Tekkadan is the worst part of this show.

>>15224522
There's no "right" side. Also, no need for profanity.

>>15224494
>yamagays visor reflection at the ending credits?
His hands bandaging someone's arm.

>And whats the flauros upgrade that was hinted? an actual banned rail gun?
They put actual dainsleif's in him.

>>15224539

I am sorry I have offended your delicate sensibilities but maybe 4chan is not for you.

>>15224508
>it was fucking hilarious seeing how flimsy and childish his entire plan was in the end.
Just like Char then

>Iok father was based as fuck.
>That's the reason his retainers are so loyal.
>The retainers want to breed Iok so the next generations isn't as retarded.
So with who will Iok breed?

>>15224035
>So is it fair to say S2 is redeeming the whole series?

Basically. I've loved watching this alongside /m/ despite the shitters and it has been a fun ride.

>>15224521
No they're mid teens just small

>>15224543
I am sorry of you only being able to speak through anuses.

>>15224498
Yeah but who chooses who suffers? Those with power. Rustal just represents the group currently in power. Tekkadan seeks power so nobody else can exploit them. McGillis seeks power for, uh some reason. His groupies keep saying it's to reform Gjallarhorn for the greater good but we only seen McGillis' means, not his ends.

My point is that you should feel conflicted. The writing would probably be more effective if the group opposing Rustal were themselves from the oppressed underclass. I can't help you if you don't feel conflicted about it. Maybe it's the writing, maybe it's because you're a dick.

>>15224550
Iok will most likely live long enough to breed. Probably becoming a sort of hero.

>>15224539

One side(Rustal) represents stability and order. Some people will get hurt in this system, because you can't save everybody and there will always be people who slip through the cracks, but it has led to a prosperous and orderly society.

The other side(McGillis and Tekkadan) will throw the world into chaos, creating more warlords, slavery, and child soldiers. This is not even up for debate, because it has been outright stated that this is what their actions so far have led to. The supreme powers in this new, chaotic, fractured world, will be angry kids with no goal and a literal madman who just wants the power because he got fucked in the asshole.

There is no hard choice here. There never was.

>>15224556
>My point is that you should feel conflicted

Well, I don't, because it's a really fucking obvious choice.

>>15224525
>Galeio's reforms
If Galeio survives at end, he will be the 7 star leader but i doubt changing the Gallajhorn.

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>>15224535
>>15224382
>>15224344

Rustal "commander meat" Elion is 1000% based.

>>15224145
Will Gali fuck Ein 2.0?

>>15224556
The reason to throw your lot with Gali and Rustal is that Gali has good ideals and Rustal is felixible and compised enough individual to set the right amount of change. McG and Tekkadan will just make humanity plummet even more into the dark ages.

>>15224568
Did you forget the part where Gali genuinely wabts GHorn to change thats why he trusted McG?

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Did he deserve it?

>>15224563
There's a hard choice because nobody chooses to be born into the exploited underclass. Some of them might have enough compassion to not want to hurt other people, but even those will still want a better life for themselves. Those who just want to make their lives better at the expense of others, well, they're assholes but I can hardly blame them for wanting a better life. And the difference between them and those who have better lives at the expense of others is that they have to make their lives better with effort, rather than just being born in more favorable conditions.

>>15224573
I'm more sympathetic with the status quo but I feel conflicted because there's no easy answer.

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The scars really do make him look better.
>>15224035
Entertaining despite still being a bit weak.
Mainly Mobile Armour to lead up of this was fun to watch even if poor animation and bad writing persisted.
If the ending is decent, I'd say it was at least worth watching.
>>15224560
What if Iok carves his own path and grows more brain cells? Make him lovable not because of legacy but action.

>>15224588
Yes

>>15224572
I hope so but considering it took 44 episode for Mika to fuck Atra I'm not optimistic.
My bet is on a Lockon/Tiera or Akihiro/Lafter tier ending. One dies while the other is left with his unsopken feelings.

>>15224560
A Saint. The indestructible Iok, only his stupidity could kill him.

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>>15224583

>People follow whomever can activate Bael
>Gaelio also has the Alaya Vijnana system

Gaelio confirmed to lead Gjallarhorn after they kill Choco then.

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>Eugene: You know, maybe we should've helped Orga a bit more...
>Shino: Nah, fuck him. We're just meat, we kill and die,while he's the boss. His job is to think for all of us.
>Eugene: I guess you're right...
Shino deserves to die, everyone does. Fuck them. Biscuit and Takaki were the only ones with some brain.

>>15224588
Yes but only because it makes me want to cuddle him more.

>>15224333
link

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>>15224588

>>15224563
While Rustal could represent order and stability he also represents the old ways and corruption. McGillis and Tekkadan bring chaos and change as well as the will of the new generation. Basically, they're a necessary evil to challenge the stagnation that rigid order brings. No real good vs evil here; just a clash of generations and what they think is right.

>>15224606
They weren't raised to think, only to obey, actually most of them weren't raised at all. Can't blame them.

>>15224423
>-thought all GJ would obey him by piloting Bael
I expected Bael having some powerfull bullshit. Still apowerfull Gundam frame.

Do people really think Tekkadan are the villains? It seems like they're the only group the show wants you to feel bad for

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>>15224595

Stupid sexy GARma.

>Choco likes little girls because he's still a child inside
Deep.

>>15224606
Man Biscuit was the backbone of their thought, Orga was just a charismatic figure head in a way.
>>15224616
I do feel sorry for them, as >>15224613 said they aren't fit for this shit due to their lives.
They're dumbasses for not even questioning Orga or what they've been doing, but it's not 100% the result of them.

>>15224588
Don't bully the Chocolate Man.

>>15224549
Yes I actually giggled at how much of a char clone he is.

>>15224467
The only twist to happen is if Baerl has some powers to control the Mobile armors. Chocochar was only resarching more about the AV system than finding a way to control the Mobile armors. Also to only way to win this battle is Mcgills having Mobile armors controls, but will never happen.

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>>15224583

Now that Gaelio had already found his resolve, I imagined him doing this kind of stuff during ep 26-43.
>McGillis
>Can we trust him?

>Fells like there should be only 3 episodes left
We have 6 episodes left
WTF

>>15224535
Rustal is going to stay in my shit list until he punishes Iok for literally causing all of s2's non-combatant deaths for dumb reasons.

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What is her purpose?

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>We will never see Vidar Vs Bael
>We will never see Gundam Vidar ever again

Holy shit, this was the true character death this week and it fucking hurts my heart.

Whatever the final Kimaris variant actually is, it had better make up for this audacity.

>>15224632
Cannon fodder

>>15224588
Orga punched because Mcgills was reponsable to make Graze Ein?

>>15224616
how?

>>15224631
Status quo maaaan.

Iok is too important to the current order to get anything more than a slap on the wrist. Maybe he'll get exile like Iznario did.

>>15224632
Char is a pedo meme perfected

>>15224606
Biscuit at least put some sense on Orga decissions.

>>15224632
Rustal dies.
MacG dies.
Gaelio dies.
His last order is for his men to kill all the house leaders.
Almiria becomes the loliqueen of Gjallarhorn. She enacts reforms to free the organization from corruption and establishes Free Candy Sunday.

>>15224637
He was angry that Macky wants Tekkadan to help fight the Arianhrod.

>>15224637
More that McGillis misled them. They weren't expecting to fight Arianrhod. McGillis mentions that a showdown was always likely, he just assumed he'd have the other families backing him.

>>15224641
status quo my ass, this kind of thing is exactly why their precious system is on the brink of complete collapse.

>>15224634

The only way McGillis can win this is if the younger soldiers go "HE'S GOT BAEL! HE'S THE CHOSEN ONE!" and rally to his side.

The story seems to be set up for Gallieo to kill his ass, though. I'm curious as to who Mika is going to fight.

>>15224646
Also introduces a bill that lowers the age of consent to 10yo

>>15224652
They could always just tag team Choco if he does go crazy.

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>>15224632
To showcase McNugget's 2nd cutest nickname, Macky.

What will be name of the new Kimaris? Origin? Keep the Vidar title in it?
>>15224652
>implying He won't cockblock Gali and fight Bael

>>15224650
That's kind of my point. If the status quo wins, Iok gets away with all of that shit, despite his shit being some of the key evidence the coup used as their justification.

>>15224640
I think they're more like victims than anything else
Everyone else in the show is power hungry and corrupt but Tekkadan is just trying to survive
This episode made it pretty apparent, they act way they are because they were treated like shit by CGS
Even when they brutally murder people, they've only ever done it to defend themselves or in retaliation

>>15224588
Yes
He's playing with people's lives

>>15224673
it's not just day to day survival, Orga's objective is to create a future where he and his chums can live decently without having to fight

>>15224673
They started that way. They're still far from being framed as villains. Right now they basically keep digging a deeper and deeper hole to getting screwed.

Macky looks pretty confident about the upcoming fight...


Inb4 he has upgraded mobile armors

>>15224606
Takaki didn't have a brain, he had a sister. Same for Biscuit, he didn't have a brain, he had two sisters. It's not "reason" that pushed them to question Orga, only emotions they had for their imoutos. Biscuit said early on in the Teiwaz arc he will never doubt Orga either and always stand by him no matter what. Conclusion is that people with families make bad soldiers.

McG uses MAs in desperation.

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>>15224145
I'd wear a mask too because in the IBO universe your face is at risk of regularly warping into this

>>15224681
IT's Choco-ho. He thinks Bael will destroy the arionhord fleet be himself. I want to see his face when he is wrecked inside the armor.

>>15224145
>>15224145
>Gaelio feels bad about turning Ein into a monster
>he tries to rationalize it and by doing so pushes Julietta to do the same

Ahahahahaha. Wow I did not extpect this turn of events. Gaelio is just as crazy and immoral as McGillis.

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>Final Kimaris finally revealed in show
>The product hasn't even been so much teased yet

This has already been handled worse than the Flauros debacle.

>>15224713
He's my friend!
>Keeps his brain alive and trapped in a mobile suit in order to unleash him as his secret weapon against AV suits, using his brain so he doesn't have to risk himself with AV surgery.

>>15224686
>Conclusion is that people with families make bad soldiers.

So that's why galan mosa threw everything away and became rustals weapon.

>>15224713
Hardly the same thing, Ein was unconscious while Julietta is doing it out of her own free will.

Although, the smart thing here would be to put her brain in a jar and shove it in another Gundam frame. Having her and Iok combine to become Rustal's sword and shield would be a fitting and ironic ending.

>>15224713
Didn't gali tell her to stay human?

>>15224713

Uhh no, he told her she's fine the way she is and to stop doubting herself. He respects her now because she reminds him of Ein so much, always striving to be better for someone else.

>>15224719
>The product hasn't even been so much teased yet
It was in the OP since January and led to many speculation in these threads (Amdusias anyone ?)

If anything it has been thoroughfully teased the whole season

>>15224745
What if it comes out as a parts swap for the Vidar gunpla?

I always knew it was kimaris v4

Praise me

I doubt the Arianrhod Fleet has the medical facilities necessary to do any A Lalah-Vagina surgery or make brains in jars anyways.

>>15224681
>Inb4 he has upgraded mobile armors
The only asspul to save tekkadan and McGills
Also McGills was too retard for not having a backup plan.

>>15224348
Because this show is written by a woman.

>>15224734
No, he said:
1).Our desires make us human (Ein's desire to serve/avenge was a human desire he was entitled to, as a human).
2)) If you have someone whom you wish to serve (like Ein wished to serve Gali)
3). Do everything in your power to do so (like Ein gave up everything to serve Gali)
$). And if you do, you're going it right (It's okay to become a graze just like Ein did)

He is fucking rationalizing Ein's predicement and using Julietta as a proxy. She is now going to be inspired to attain the power because it's a desire, and desire is what makes it human, so even if she casts away her humanity it doesn't matter, because she's still acting on a human instinct., and that is OKAY! Even if she becomes a monster, she retains her humanity as long as she has a DESIRE.
It's so dreadful.

>>15224772
He's right tho. Sacrifice is the quintessential value of man.

Did McGillis kiss Almiria? It seemed that way.

>>15224772
>turn into cool robot for the sake of others
Can't see anything wrong with that.

>>15224788
He's indirectly pushing a young, gullible girl to become a torso in a Mobile Suit, He deserves to go to hell.

>>15224789
No just pedo stared into her broken soul

>>15224794
That's because you're an idiot with no life.

>Almiria became an AV system like Ein

wew

>>15224629
Then there's 6 episodes dedicated to the final battle

Didn't Victory had like 10 episodes for the fight against the Angel Halo?

6 is not a whole lot

>>15224798
Most heroes are young

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>>15224794
Anon would you turn into a cool robot for the sake of others?

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>>15224273
If he shows up, then Tekkadan will RAPE HIM TO DEATH with their arsenal.

You know, the whole Turbines thing and such.

I liked how black said "Never stop questioning orga"

If only bisket was around to kick orgas ass. So sad

>>15224273
>Iok comes back with a Gundam
>still get his ass handed

What a travesty of existence he is.

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>>15224800
Anon has a roboto desire, and that is okay. Do not deny his humanity and life.

>>15224806
Arianhod fight will be 2 eps
Mcgillis betrayal fight will be last 4

>>15224808
LMAO so much for "Gali will save the monkey from Ein's fate!"

>>15224800
Well once I'm in the robot, I won't be living.
>>15224808
If I get a cool design, sure thing.

>>15224273
Will he kill a named character from Tekkadan?

>>15224824
Eugen cause fuck him for ruining Flauros design.

>>15224811
Why didn't Nadi question Orga? I forgot if it was mentioned in S1.
Everyone is just trapped in guild with Tekkadan and they're just allowing for their bad route end.

>>15224631
You could call Naze's group a lot of things.

>>15224713
>>15224720
Have you faggots watched this shows.
Ein wanted to become a robot for
>MUH REVENGU
>MUH CRANK SAMA

>>15224830
Eugene will die, yes. But he's not the one who "ruined Flauros' design."

>>15224846
To be fair Gali was the one who signed the waivers for it.
Though I forget, did the AV fuck up Ein to the point of said disaster in Edmonton, or was he always so insane?

>>15224830
But Eugene literally did nothing and has nothing to do with Flauros. I want him live.

>>15224830
>EEEEWWWWW PINK
As if we didn't have enough white plastics

>>15224854
I mean Shino, my bad my brain is corroded by the blunders of this show.

So yeah, fuck you Shino and your pink faggotry. Die by the hands of great Iok.

>>15224868
He always wished for revenge.

>>15224821
I just see what asspull Mcgils will have to dont needing Tekkadan help. MacGills is a fcuking dumb for not planning a backup plan.

>>15224874
He should've went for a burning hot red and orange.
Because Flauros the demon is a pyromancer.
>>15224879
Yeah but to the point of breaching those protocols as well. and rage for Kudellia
Granted, dude seemed unfit with his unhealthy obsession. Maybe he would do same thing if he wasn't hooked up.

>>15224884
Bael can summon Mobile armors
The twist is that Agnika created those too

>>15224869
Eugene already knows their attitude toward Orga is wrong and they should question him some more, Shino doesn't. Therefore Eugene will die while Shino will not because there has to be someone to pick up that lesson as well as feel for Eugene's loss. Unless of course bandai feels flauros needs sales boost / won't be needed for the rest of the show which is going to be focused on July/Gali vs Mika/Macky, then he might die too.

>>15224819
His robo desire only counts if it's a desire to SERVE though, I shoul've pointed that out.

Notice how they even made it a point that everyone has already evacuated the Isaribi.

I want Eugene to fuck up Iok for fucking up his friends.

Then again, he might fuck up Rustal, and the rest of the show is Iok's rampaging revenge again.

>>15224719
>Kimaris & Barbatos badly damaged after Gjallahorn civil space war
>Barbatos fixed up with parts from Bael
>Kimaris swaps back to Vidar parts
>True final battle takes place on Mars where it all started in a savage close quarter combat
This is how I'd set things up.

>>15224884

My guess:

Agnika's soul is actually in Barbatos. This comes out in Arianrhod fleet battle. As soon as they win, he goes after Mika to get his precious Agnika Gundam.

>>15224035

It's better, but still not good.

It went from "total garbage" to "watchable."

Its weird that a Gundam series isnt hyping up the Gundam

>>15224963
It did with the MA fight and the redesign.

>>15224588
Nice

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>>15224632
To mourn Macky because no one else will.

>>15224637
It's because he's treating Tekkadan like a cushion and doesn't care for the collateral damage. So yeah, kind of. He treated Tekkadan as a fodder in the Ein experiment as well.

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>>15224990
That makes sense.

>>15224896
>Yeah but to the point of breaching those protocols as well. and rage for Kudellia
>Granted, dude seemed unfit with his unhealthy obsession. Maybe he would do same thing if he wasn't hooked up.
He managed to bail out Gali twice earlier.

He took another step off the deep end when he entered Graze Ein.

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Holy hell I think I've come to miss Metal Setsuna

>>15224606
Eugene put more thought into it than that, and even had said exactly what Zach was saying to Dane...TO orga just two episodes ago, about being outnumbered. Even tried to double check with him. There's only so much one can do for orga when he's psychologically fucked up dependent on Mika and their stupid goal. But it was nice to see Eugene actually notices orga is a human being still.

Shino was retarded, but what is he supposed to do now that they've gotten so far, suddenly doubt orga? Still dumb no one ever listened to Eugene and then he just became irrelevant even though what he used to always say about everyone over relying on orga became a huge issue

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>>15224896
>>15224876
Shut up loser.

>>15225023
Nah I for one am not so far gone that I will ever miss this abomination.

>>15224954
That still makes it a top tier of gundam shows

>>15224010
yup, hurts even more when you think that if he marry carta issue. He would have been in a high power position to help change GJ with Gali

>>15224811
Nadi is an idiot and not only never questioned, but actively discouraged merribit from doing so three separate occasions in the show. Only biscuit and eugene ever had a brain there and now Zach.

>>15224798
He never said that nor did he say to get the same thing McGillis has.

He just said she wasn't wrong for pushing herself for the sake of someone else.
He also said she was doing it right.

Real line that was important was don't deny yourself, which could mean don't deny the power that comes with AV or the that she believes she has no value other than serving Rustal.

>>15225055
No it makes it average.

>>15225057
>marrying someone who keeps a blond harem like his rapist father
That's not happening.

>>15225057
>people still think McGillis wants to improve Gjallarhorn
Seriously, how? Just how? Guy wants power. He wants control. Absolute control. And notice how he did it, through what amounts to the fucking ethics commission. Guy successfully pulls off a coup by undermining the power structure of the organization through what he learned in the internal review board.

Carta and Gaelio would have supported McGillis' stated goals, but not his real ones.

>>15224131
The dummy reactors actually make sense. It's been a long-established point that every suit has a unique signature as a result of its Ahab reactor output. That's why Ein was all "fuck you, stop using Krank's machine, why the fuck did you paint it pink?", it was obvious from a sensor read-out that it was the same mobile suit. So adding another reactor to Kimaris would change its output, and thereby disguise it.

>>15225216
>Guy successfully pulls off a coup by undermining the power structure of the organization through what he learned in the internal review board.
Watch the college flashback again, he always loathed the power structure and wanted to change it. Breaking it to attain control over GH wouldn't be an issue, in fact it'd only reinforce his stance that it NEEDED to be broken in order to conduct reform.

>>15225239
>painted it pink
>changed the head
>changed the shoulders
>added a new rear vernier
>drew fucking dinosaur eyes on it
Worth noting just how different the Graze Kai Ryusei-Go is from a standard Graze.

That said, I wonder if the third reactor inhibited output on the Vidar? The whole thing with the Gundam frames is that a dual-reactor unit was a bitch to synchronize, so a tri-reactor setup should be even worse, if not practically impossible.

>>15225256
He definitely hates what Gjallarhorn is, but I'm saying that he'd feel that way even if they were perfect. He's not motivated out of love for the organization, he's motivated out of a desire for power and authority. Due to his childhood experiences, however, he has channeled these feelings into this narrative of reforming Gjallarhorn and taking things back to the days of Agnika Kaieru. His own power and revenge fantasy became entwined with the legend of Gjallarhorn, but we can't forget which of these things came first.

>>15225306
>He's not motivated out of love for the organization
Of course not, he's motivated out of hate for the organization.

>>15225037
>previous thread is still on page 5
You do realize you dipshit that you're killing off threads for no reason?

>>15224550
>So with who will Iok breed?
Julie-chan?

>>15224729
>Hardly the same thing, Ein was unconscious while Julietta is doing it out of her own free will.

;_;. Poor Monkey!!!

>>15224729
>Having her and Iok combine to become Rustal's sword and shield would be a fitting and ironic ending.

She'd take over her Gundam body and jettison Iok from her cockpit rather than have him inside of her for more than 5 seconds.

>>15224348
Keeping Status Quo means keeping Gjallarhorn on top while dragging everyone else down.

Oh Rustal is just as dumb as everybody else in Seven Stars as he doesn't understand economics and social welfare. He doesn't get what is normal now is abnormal more than 300 years ago. The Solar System hasn't progressed thanks to him and others like him. The economic power blocs were set up to run things but Seven Stars forgetting their job is to enforce the law and treaties kept getting in their way as they keep creeping into politics to stay relevant. Like keeping Chryse from talking to Abrau who is a settlement of theirs or massacring Dort workers when the African Union is willing to negotiate to give them proper labor rights. Rustal cause war between the power blocs just to make McGillis look bad. What Rustal calls order is actually crab mentality.

>>15226548
>Oh Rustal is just as dumb as everybody else in Seven Stars as he doesn't understand economics and social welfare.
IBO doesn't make sense as a whole in that regard.

Also I think humanity as a whole has done pretty badly with economics and social welfare.

>He doesn't get what is normal now is abnormal more than 300 years ago
No its stated he has the opposite frame of mind.

>The Solar System hasn't progressed thanks to him and others like him.
Progress was winning a darwin award and only Mars has stagnated.

>Like keeping Chryse from talking to Abrau who is a settlement of theirs or massacring Dort workers when the African Union is willing to negotiate to give them proper labor rights.
They weren't at that point or they wouldn't have been brought in. Oceanic federation later had a revolt and needed their help.

>Like keeping Chryse from talking to Abrau who is a settlement of theirs
Makanai was not a representative of Abrau at the time and the current government had deals with Gjallarhorn under the table.

>Rustal cause war between the power blocs just to make McGillis look bad.
Nobody said he was a nice guy, but pushing his opponents into infighting in a small scale proxy war by killing a hostile politician while managing to cover up involvement is brilliant.

He is essentially a great value Oberstein.

>>15224606
>completely ignoring Shino being obviously uncomfortable every time they talk about Orga's plans starting off as soon as the Mars King came up, but resigning himself to follow through because of his deep-rooted tendency to devalue his life
Fuck you too.

>>15224391
>pick one side to root for
I, for one, came for Barbatos beating living hell out of other mecha. It's really satisfying to see a MS to just, well, hit stuff until it breaks, no talks, no muh ideals, just big mace and a murder manlet.