Is John K right about mecha /m/

>>15222714
>half-human, half-koala girlfriend chewed eucalyptus paste in delight
That sounds adorable

I have idea who this faggot is, but his opinions are fucking gay.

>>15222743
read up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kricfalusi

>>15222743
Actually, what point is he even trying to make?

>>15222749
That mech designed back then was better and transformers is pretty stupid plot wise.

>>15222714
sounds like a dumbass

>>15222714

Source?

>>15222761
http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/01/first-anime-i-was-aware-of.html his website

>>15222714
It sounds like he's too bewildered by the concepts in these shows to really give thought as to what the appeal to them might be.

Though frankly, the guy that came up with Adult Cartoon Party shouldn't be allowed to call any other cartoons "weird."

First rule of John K is never take anything he says seriously, the man is a nut job.

That said he did give the world POWDERED TOAST MAN so I can't hate him entirely, but fuck he's a nutter.

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>>15222773
Agreed

>>15222747
So the only thing worth a shit he ever worked on was Ren and Stimpy? Also, he has a reputation for hating everything?
>>15222756
I see. He's not exactly wrong about Transformers being stupid plot wise, but mecha design was not necessarily better back in the day.

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>>15222773
>>15222775
he does have some truth to what he says tho

>>15222780
He forgot about the French.

Never underestimate the baguettes' ability to out anime even Japan.

>>15222749
> what point is he even trying to make?
kids these days

>>15222714
I don't really understand what people see in the Transformers movie, so I'll give him that one. I only saw the first, I figured it would get good at some point, and it never did. And there's no evidence I would feel differently about the others.

So he starts talking about mecha anime, then suddenly mentions furries for no apparent reason, then it turns into a Stormfront "they're trying to conquer us" thing and then he says Bayformers are shit because of Star Wars? Did he just have a fever dream and then write it down?

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>>15222743
>low information millennial detected

This is what your parents should have done to your entitled ass.

>>15222758
>>15222770
>>15222773
>>15222778
>>15223182
At least he's not MacFarlane who's just as perverse and aloof on anime but also shits out SJW faggotry and pretentious hipster bullshit which you'll all hypocritically bend over for.

>>15222786
Totally spies... the childs primer to internet fetishes they'll regret later on in life...

The Invader Zim creator has said some really uninformed shit about anime

>>15222714
....Who?

>>15223723
I watched a fuck ton of that and I'm vanilla as fuck. I don't know what you're talking about.

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>>15222714
>mecha in America was founded by furries.

Explains a lot.

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>>15224674
really grind those gears

>>15222749
>Actually, what point is he even trying to make?
his point is "I'm John K please give me attention"

>>15224723
Fucking props for picking a tipping furry.

>>15223702
What? No. I think Seth MacFarlane is a cunt too.

Why the hell would you bring him up anyway? Nobody you quoted even brought him up as somebody they liked.

>>15222714
John K is a hack who thinks anyone who doesn't follow his lead is wrong.

Where's Can Without Labels, John?

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>>15222747
>maker of Rin and Stimpy
>being embarrassed of working on Transformers

At first when I read the OP, I thought he was one of those older fimmaker tools that think that the only good entertainment is shitty gritty realistic indie drama films. But now I'm just confused.

>>15224973
>Seth MacFarlane is a cunt

....my long lost brother....

>>15222714
Wendell sounds like a cool dude, would sing 70s mecha themes with

>>15225617
It's more like the extreme opposite: the only good cartoons are wacky and toony and must never stay on model.

>>15225617
Nah, he's instead one of those tools who feels animation should go all out in content, which tends to translate to edgy grossout x-rated for the sake of an x-rating animation.

Wait no that's Bakshi.

Ah fuck it they're both talented nutjobs really. They're of that "animation shouldn't just be family friendly kids show crap" breed, of course they'd take offense to the idea of working on glorified toy commercials.

John K is a werido idiot that thinks any nimation that isn't constantly squashing and stretching like old Rubber Hose style stuff isn't erally animation and like most crazy animators doesn't understand writing or characters or why non-broken brains latch onto those more than the animation itself. He's just a sad broken man that wishes he was more important and famous than his is.

>>15222714
>John K.
>worked on Transformers

Hey Johnny boy, last I checked, you were working with Hanna-Barbera. You could at least said Go-Bots.

>>15222714
>>15222764
>the comments section
John K and the guys that post on his blog are like bizarro /m/. They're a whole nest of old dweeby cartoon elitists who hate anime and new shows of any kind.

Constantly sitting on their asses posting about how superior Walt Disney is, the golden rules, the preston blair rabbits and "What went wrong?"-tier discussions about how their medium is dying and younger generations don't care.

They really are /m/ if you just replace all the combattlers, gundams, and power armours with animated animals from the 1940s.

>>15229874

that autistic shitweed got booted out of nickelodeon, had the voice actors hating him for the banned ren & Stimpy episode, and he even tried to make money by make a soft porn cartoon of it...


im still surprised on how the coke and weed that he had in the 90's didn't killed him yet

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Just gonna leave this here.

>>15229874

To be fair, it's not like he's the only veteran animator that says art is going to shit, even if he is shit himself.

There's an image I see posted from time to time where an oldschool character artists is complaining that art schools don't teach people how to draw properly anymore, and he actually got up off his ass to try to teach them only to discover that "art students" would rather just hotglue retarded shit to themselves.

I wish I had saved that.

>>15223702

In fairness that's generally less Seth and more the writers put in charge post-revival, since outside of a lot of voicework Seth doesn't do much in the creative format anymore, especially back when he was focusing on American Dad (which is what AD was a much better show)

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>>15225663
>Wait no that's Bakshi.
Even Bakshi made LotR for no reason other than he really wanted to. In Bakshi's case it's more that he just wants to have creative control in what he's making.

I loved Wizards

>>15230023
>There's an image I see posted from time to time where an oldschool character artists is complaining that art schools don't teach people how to draw properly anymore, and he actually got up off his ass to try to teach them only to discover that "art students" would rather just hotglue retarded shit to themselves.
So what, the art students didn't actually want to learn anything about drawing?

>>15222714

Oh fuck John K. He's made nothing but garbage his entire life. He's a hack.

>>15230090
More like the art schools hire people who hate drawing, and the students follow by example.

Also the animator you're referring to who said that is Richard Williams.

>>15222714
Is Nagano the John K of /m/?

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>>15230023
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>>15231020
Here you go, anons.

>>15224723
by this logic most of the popular furry shit isn't furry

>>15222749
John K is just angry at things

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>>15231335

Thanks, my dude. Have a (You).

>>15222743
He's a hack who thinks people still care about him because he made one good show nearly thirty years ago.

>>15231030
Yes. Gothicmades were his autistic fit over kit manufacturing gimping better designs.

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>>15222786
They were truly ahead of their time.

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>>15231461
>most of the popular furry shit isn't furry

It's not. People just assume that "Humanoid w/ animal features = Furry" and Right is just perpetuating the meme.

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>>15231335
>Richard Williams

RIP Thief and Cobbler.

>>15230083
>entire movie spent gearing up for epic wizard battle
>just shoots him
>and that fucking one-liner

I pissed myself laughing

>>15231335
That's just depressing.

>>15231913
>t. my anus

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>john k

>>15231030
Nagano is more like Frank Miller, but without the drug abuse.

>>15231030
Quite the opposite actually. He's one of the few who don't whine about something 24/7 with the likes of Anno/Oshii/Tomino etc.

Anno on Gundam (Origin vol 1):

>"I'm afraid the legacy of Gundam dwindled down to the mobile suits, in the form of plastic models as a business and military hobbyism. Even these mobile suits were summarized down to protagonist mecha, Gundam, so that friend and foe alike were all uniformly Gundams. One could say this was inevitable: the pivotal creation that made Gundam a classic and drives the franchise expansion to this day is, of course, the mobile suit, represented by the RX-78 Gundam, weapon bearing the elements of a character; and the way of the world is that characters are what ultimately remain with the audience. It's not a bad thing. I simply find it unfortunate that the Tale that enveloped the worldview and ideas on war presented in First Gundam ceased to function as anything more than device for the mobile suit fantasy."

Nagano on Gundam (from Origin Vol 7):

>"Unless I get a direct request from Sunrise as a designer, I can't bring myself to draw Zakus and Gelgoogs. Because those are the creations of people who originally made Mobile Suit Gundam. Maybe this is a conflict unique to those who get involved in the production of something they love... But it doesn't make me more important for having worked on it (Gundam). That's not what this is about... People like me, who designed the Mobile Suits in the later series and Char's outfits, and people building Gunpla models and drawing Zakus for fun rather than for anyone else to see- in the face of Mobile Suit Gundam, we are all the same. Each one of us, in our own way, loves Gundam. The original 'Johnny Ridden Zaku' that appeared as a plastic model, the Gundams that transform or have tons of extra spikes, or come in all different colors like Super Sentai teams- they're all Gundam."