Muv-Luv Franchise

Katia is my waifu

IniaXYuuya is OTP

I want to be bullied by Pham-nee!

>>15222407
What is their to like about Katia?

I want Beatrix-sama to step on me!

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>>15223327
me too.

is the a-10 from this event random drop only? wtf is this new clanging sound?

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Is there a Sumika and Meiya nendo made? Cant seem to find one on google.

Also what does Sumika's poop smell like?

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It's time /m/en, there is no point in being spilt into two boards. There is always a thread on /a/ as there is always a thread on /m/. Muv Luv is primarily a VN which usually means it should be shipped off to /vg/, but considering its amount of /m/ content it should be restricted to /m/.

Here is a poll, cast your votes.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12371311

>>15223800
It's like Seacats and Neps which are applicable to multiple boards.
But seriously anime of the original series when?

>>15223817
>But seriously anime of the original series when?
How would you even adapt Extra? Mash all the routes together to make some kind of bizzaro abomination? Only do Sumika route(which is kinda shit)? Meiya route?

I mean you can't just jump into Unlimited and Alternative without the context from Extra.

>>15223817
> anime of the original series when?
it'll never happen. ;_;

>>15224529
do Extra anime in the manga way.
it's pretty acceptable.

>>15224856
The Extra manga was from Sumika's perspective, wasn't it, or it at least started out that way?

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>>15224903
there's few route included, but then they just touch the surface, not that deep into other route yet.
but of course it ended with Sumika.

for sure the Extra manga art looks awful for some reason.

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>>15224985
The Alternative manga is apparently still ongoing, but it should be wrapping up soon.

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>>15225005
How far are the raws to the eng translation?

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>>15225164
The most recent typeset chapter is from volume 6, during the end of the coup arc.

>>15225197
oh that was just vol 6 and raws at vol 15
Thanks

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>>15225005
still can't find latest raw MLA manga till now.
god damn it age, & their collaborator.

>>15223327
>>15223516
She's a huge shit though.Why her when you have girls who are both hot and nice like Iris or Sylwia?

>>15223800
Do we really want /a/ on here? I thought we chased them out a long time ago because of how annoying they were.

Is TE worth watching ? i liked schwarzesmarken

Lise/2nd Beatrix CGs when?

>>15226857
They've already been posted in /a/, along with a partial translation of Beatrix's first scene.

Theo actually penetrates and impregnates Beatrix in the Valentine's scenario, no joke.

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>>15226857
Just the first part of the Lise scene so far

>>15226751
It's an alright side-story. Just don't go into it expect their to be lots of bater fights.

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>>15226900
There's also this, right?

Whats the best way to farm G Ore in Strike Frontier? The wikia says raising the affection of N level cards to 500% is the fastest way but it looks like they changed the prizes since then since it only gets you 5 discs instead.

>>15226940
Yeach devs did that after they realized how easy gem farming had become. Anyways to answer your question. Best F2P to farm gems is use Poverty points to roll for R rarity pilots ( it also works with HR and SR but it take a much much longer.with them) Limit Brake them and max their affection to get one gem.

Other worthy strategy is take advantage of event were SR character is acquired from a gold chest drop.

You just hope that luck and RNG are on your side so you'll have a lot of drops of this character, limit brake them and max their affection to get 3 gems.

>>15226885
>Theo actually penetrates and impregnates Beatrix in the Valentine's scenario, no joke.

Yeah, I'm going to call BS on that. Beatrix just steps on him.

>>15227025
It's all a dream so what does it matter?

>>15226983
Ah I was afraid of that, its basically the same strategy but with R instead of N. Thanks for the answer. Also those bronze and silver badges they want for the limit breaking, I never see those anywhere and the item shop doesn't seem to indicate how to craft them and the wiki only mentions medals, whats up with those?

>>15227025

Someone translated the text. Age was lazy and used the closeups of the stepping CG as the cowgirl sex ones in a half-assed POV setup.

>>15227090
It's actually supposed to be an upright straddle/leglock. Theo is tied to a chair and Beatrix sits on his lap and teases him before putting it in. Theo almost goes blank from pleasure as she hugs herself and moans against him, and he laments how he can't grab a hold of and ravish her:

頭はショ一トしたままで何を言っているのか分からない

赤く腫れあがっていただけの肉棒が, 再び熱を得て歓喜に震える.

テオドール: ......良いのか?

ベアトリクス: 好きにするといい

テオドール:.........好きに......
動かせば動かすほど腰の奥の方かう快感が上がってくる

肉棒をベトリクスの奥の奥ヘ突き進めると枯れ果てたものがよみがえる

形が良くても大きなおっぱいが揺ねている...

椅子に縛うれているのがもどかしい

So the CG is definitely not reflective of what is going on.

>>15227117

So Age was extra lazy then.

>>15227045
Badges? Ah one were there is also a Blue orb and a book yes? Those are not Limit Breaking.

It Awakening. A new mechanic that boost stats of your character. Like it is to install XM3 on TSF. Better save it for your SSR characters and after you max LB them.

Limit Breaking is done with Medals and Disks. Or duplicate of same Character/TSF

>kikestarter team teasing with huge update

I bet they just end up telling that translation phase is done, but now they got into editing phase which will take another 2 or 3 months. Maybe they show some Codex pictures too.

I just want that digital release, so I can reread Alternative already. How long that shit can take. Its been delayed few times already.

>>15228240
Oh I'm an idiot, its a different tab altogether. Thank you for the help.

Can anyone kindly post some TSF webms
I kinda lost mine for some reason.
Also any updates on its release?

>>15223646
Sumika a cute

>>15223646
>Also what does Sumika's poop smell like?

It smells like nuts! Choco! Aloha oeee!

>>15228287
I just want my fucking Codex

>>15225005
last volume on nyaa is 15 and it ends right before Operation Ouka (the farewell scene with Akane). There's also a scene where you see several of the Fort Laser class from Total Eclipse walking together.

>>15226671
>anon cannot conceive of the possibility that other people don't share his opinion of the character and like the whole package.

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>82 tries
>still no MiG

>>15229743
>a-10 is a fucking missile type with weak defense
what were they thinking?

>you have red ,yellow,purple and 3 white takemikazuchi
>can't put them all together because cost

Shieeet

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>>15226900
LISE
I
S
E

>>15230824
I don't know. Well.it older model from the 80's. So maybe back them it armor wasn't that good? Or they had to strip some of it because carrying Avenger and Missiles at the same time was to much weight to move efficiently.

Or they still didn't made all animations and haven't balanced every thing about it sk they too easy way out and just put A-10 skin over TSF with missile rack.

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This means apology gems yes?

>>15232018
Yes, im gonna roll the raptor gatcha again

Whoa new boss type. It was tits, literally.

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>>15232356
Japan, I swear.

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Is KNG's archive still online? The torrent for Chronices 03 on sukebi is pretty much dead.

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>Requirements not met
What do? Does it have something to do with the locked icon on the home screen?

>>15232182
They moved the YF-22 over to the 1.5% gacha. This upsets me.

>>15232373
Its weirdly fun to fight. Could use more jiggle.

>>15232931
There is a new filter in the tsf selection page to choose the ones that are allowed for that quest.
Locked icon on main screen is for multiplayer.

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Is Classrep a dindu nuffin?

what the fuck i thought the last schwarz event ended the 28th, thats what the fucking thing said. and now i dont get my 100 sortie mig? fuck you game

>>15232373
Last event was much harder.

>>15231635
after I posted that I noticed that the a-5 has low defense too. I think the game balancing is just retarded.

>>15232373
S-Sumika?

Anyone tried the bonus gatcha with the berkut rate up?

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>>15222407
You guys ready for some fanfics?

>>15235108
What are you talking about?

>>15229221
Whole package is attractive to look at, but the personality is basically ott evil, which doesn't work in a gritty setting like Muv-Luv. She's not even sexual, despite her sensual design and voice, just a murdering nazi bitch.

If this was something like GaoGear or even Gundam, I wouldn't have a problem with Beatrix at all, but she just doesn't work well within ML.

>>15235160
I'm talking about writing a little diddly featuring a minor Muv-Luv supporting character nobody cares about written with the tonal consistency of both sets of Halo Atriox commercials happening simultaneously for the entertainment / raging hatred of /m/.

But I'll let you guys go back to arguing for the millionth time over how Beatrix is actually the most precious underappreciated heroine of Muv-Luv even though she's a murderous psychopath with no redeeming qualities just because she's the delusional author's personal waifu. god fucking dammit.

>>15235598
Get a hobby.

>>15235598
>But I'll let you guys go back to arguing for the millionth time over how Beatrix is actually the most precious underappreciated heroine of Muv-Luv even though she's a murderous psychopath with no redeeming qualities just because she's the delusional author's personal waifu. god fucking dammit.

You've describe /a/, not /m/. Most of the Beatrixfags here are just /a/utists and not true /m/en.

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>>15235598
>>15235613
Does anyone still have that greentext summary of Beatrix?

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>>15235598
You're going to be writing about Farka?

>>15235669
Who the fuck is Farka?

>>15235669
I haven't decided who I want to write about yet, but she seems cute. What's her angle?

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>>15235758
Her name is Farka Murenkamp. She's a sword expert, and basically the Werewolve's version of Annete. She's supposed to be even younger then Lise, and ends up sacrificing her life to save Lise/Theo at the end of Lise's route.

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>>15235758
You're that Inghildefag, right?

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Farka's blush is the miracle of the universe!

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>>15235790
That it is.

>>15235785
1. Yes.
2. YES.

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>>15235798
Yea, she's pretty cute I guess.

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>>15235598
>>15235613
>implying you wouldn't cum in her too if given the chance

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>>15235637

>>15235598
>just because she's the delusional author's personal waifu
Irisdina is actually Hiroki's waifu. It's Kouki (the overall series creator) who is the Beatrixfag.

>>15235830
Dang, even the staff has a waifu wars.

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>>15235839

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>>15235598
You're really committed to this whole Beatrix hating thing, aren't you?

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>>15235920

What do you expect from someone who's been hanging on to a two-episode character for almost 5 years now.

>>15235920
Someone's gotta fight the good fight while the waifufags are around.

>>15235978
TE VN with Yui route
W H E N
H
E
N

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>>15235920
Also you picked the wrong screencap.

>>15232018
Imari Kurumi?!

>>15235598
>a little diddly

What the sod is that?

>>15236446
No, it's Tsukiji.
AKA a cat in Extra.

>>15236032
Never because she is a worthless piece of shit

>>15236566
Wouldn't have come to it if the Cookie wasn't such a huge advocate of Slav clams.

Fuck, Yuuya didn't even go for authentic, the mofo chased imitation ones instead.

>>15236579
Cookie's waifus usually end up suffering more and dying though.

>>15236585
I better hope he detests von Mechaphile then.

>>15235598
>>15235613
>>15236039
Beatrix is really sweet in the side material though.

New SF OC lewds (not that anyone really gives a shit about em)

http://i.imgur.com/YjqD9st.png
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>>15235232
>but the personality is basically ott evil
>, just a murdering nazi bitch.
That's why she helps the rebels win in one route for no gain, huh? Or why she always tries to minimize casualties? But there is no point in arguing. Its not like either you or I will change our opinion or come to an understanding. Also the "whole package" includes the personality.

>>15236672
If after 18 months of that side materials existance they still refuse to include that information in their interpretation of the character you might as stop bringing it up.

>>15236693
I do. Wish they had a little bit more attention paid to them. Really Devs should put a little bit more effort in developing SF heroines. Why make them if this game is only pandering to fans of other series.

They have potential to stand on thier own.

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>>15236585
Katia is the only one who didn't really suffer

i got SSR Marimo, someone knew how her skill work?

>>15237403
The more damaged she is, the more damage she deals.

>>15236464
>>15232018
She finally appeared?
Is the translation patch coming out anytime soon?

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>>15237358

I thought Cookie's waifu in SM would be Beatrix?

Also he seems kinda like a Meiya kind of person.

>>15237718
There's an interview where he said Meiya and Yuuko were his favorites.

>>15237358
Katia is Watanabe's favorite, not Hiroki or Kouki.

>>15227117
Since when were those two in any way sexually attracted to one another? Theo is more likely to sleep with Walther then Beatrix.

>>15238035
No, his favorite was Iris.

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>>15222953
A sweet, loving girl who will accept everything about you and take all manner of abuse from you, because she knows you hurt far more than she does. The healer, rather than the healee in Lise's case.

That said, they really dropped the ball with Katia.

>>15235785
Twitter link?

>>15237718
>>15238035
>>15239294
I wonder why did Age promotes Katia so much as the main

Sumika I kinda get and TE pulled a bait and switch with Yui to Cryska

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>>15239345
Nobody knows. Somebody will trot out that old argument that "REAL muvluv fans didn't like Katia because she's too nice" but that doesn't address the root problem.

The fact of the matter is, after Katia's introduction, she loses screentime bit by bit, and by the second half fades out of relevancy almost completely and only really gets touched upon as a plot element. You can't market your way out of a fundamental issue like that.

>>15239380
Katia was originally written in as the otaku bait (since moe sells), but the fans didn't like it. One of the major complaints of the first half is too much Katia in fact. She loses out even more when her cute imouto niche gets usurped by Lise, who can be funnier, more charismatic, and nearly as cute.

>>15239421
I already said in -that very post- that your argument doesn't work. Please try again.

>>15235804
Hey. She's pretty good.

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>>15232373
Literal titty monster.

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>Just pick up Muv-luv started at extra
>Autoread while lying down in bed 6pm
>Check clock its 3am
>Got to wake up for work 5am

Good thing Im just a coach and I can take it easy.
Also when does this game ever come out? Im sick of just playing EDF 4.1

>>15239211
>Theo is more likely to sleep with Walther then Beatrix.
Conisdering the time he spends staring at her tits, not really.

>>15239380
I think that the that turning the main heroine "main heroine turns into plot device" is a constant in Muv-Luv. It doesn't help Katia in any way though, aand only harms her character.

>>15241146
Cancelled.

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>>15241819
fuck

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Someone wanted a Yuuko card? Then you get a cute Kasumi as bonus.

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>>15242825
they sure remember any age's picture out there & recycle it somehow, isn't it?

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What does Meiya's poop smell like?

>>15243061
Shit.

>>15243061
after weeks of Sumika's cook i thing her shit start to smell really bad.

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>>15243061
Sumika did it better

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>>15243102

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Fuck you too.

>>15223646
>>15243061
> poop smell like?
like shit.

it's like saying water is wet, you disgust fuck.

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That new tsf looks like it has a smiling face. It's also funny that it's already waiting on the ground for the rest at the beginning.

>>15243171
rip daily gem

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>>15241845
>>15241146

If I had won the Powerball, I would have brought back Legends 3 as a PS4 title and funded a MUV-LUV arcade game using Gundam pod controls and current gen graphics.

Is there any resource that lists the weight of TSFs?

>>15244535
Integral Works probably has info like that. I'd wait for Codex from Kickstarter which has more additions than just IW

>>15236693
>.png

You... I like you. Think you can replace all the artifact-laden crap we've been getting up until now?

>>15243061
Where was this from? I don't remember it in Extra,

>>15244746
Altered Fable, I'd assume

>>15244746
The upcoming KimiMuv

>>15244811
>KimiMuv
Oh wow about time. It's been since 2011 I was waiting for it.

>>15245016
http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/kimimuv/hetare_gallery.html

https://youtu.be/Cg2aQWwaKz0

https://youtu.be/GmQPJIbhcjs

>Takeru gets to wake up to Mitsuki wearing only a towel
lucky bastard

Which ML side story protag gets the most pussy?

>>15245053
Theo in SF.

>>15245093
>all dreams and/or nightmares
Thinking about pussy isn't getting pussy.

>>15245025
> https://youtu.be/Cg2aQWwaKz0
> Mitsuki wearing only a towel
SLUTYASE

I should continue reading KGNE VN. Busy all the time for work.

>>15245093
You mean Yuuya.

>>15245266
DELETE THIS

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>>15232373

>>15246579
God dammit were that translator go. We could really use his help.

>>15245093
it ended as hopes & dreams, just like Altered Fable.

>>15246050
isn't Yuuya dig TSF?

>ks update soon they said
>its been almost two weeks now

How soon is soon?

>>15248025
soon™

>>15248025
any minute now

>>15246731
>translator

Where the sod has he been when we've got all these bedroom scenes from SF?

Schwarzesmarken is on the surface seems interesting. The idea of humanity fighting a slow losing war against an overwhelming force has always been pretty interesting and it's unique to see that humans are still caught up in all their petty bickering and powerplays instead of uniting against a common foe. Exploring all of this inside the climate of Cold War Germany is really intriguing in theory.

However, in practice, Schwarzesmarken is more cringe inducing then thought provoking. More focused on the edges of its themes then their points. This show is a parade of human misery, with sneering, badly written and unbelievable mustache twirling cardboard villains (turns out the aliens aren't the greatest threat to Germany, but some hopped up sadistic major), and an angsty, unlikable, and schizophrenic main protagonist who ultimately comes off as standing for nothing. It all comes together to make a very juvenile and unsophisticated affair.

Dropped like a hot turd / 5

>>15249428
I totally disagree. SM was one of my tops. I loved the dark setting, and it was very interesting. The characters may have been the some of the most annoying characters I've seen (ok, the villains were pretty stupid and hard to take seriously let alone see as actual people) but it just show how much they will change by the end of the anime.

>>15249440
>falling for MAL bait
Don't do this, Anon. Learn to ignore autists

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>>15248025
ORUTA MADA~~?

Help guys
Just started alternative and how to remove black bars?

It wasnt like that with Extra and unlimited, changing with nvidia control panel to fullscreen aspect ratio didnt work

>>15250450
extra and umlimited are 4:3 alternative is 16:9

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/archives/1767

Was one of those one-day pinups released with this article, two days ago? I hope I didn't miss one of those goodies.

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>>15250599
But my monitor is 1920x1080 isnt that 16:9 and alternative should able to fill that instead of having black bars?

>>15250820
Alternative is 1024x600.

>>15235814
>cumming in a crazy psycho

Eh, I like my body parts and life enough to not be separated from them.

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>>15251415
Irisdina>Beatrix

So I've found that reporting /a/'s threads when the European mods are on doesn't do shit. Reporting them in the evening however actually gets a 404 for spam. Very interesting and something I should keep in mind in the future.

was ayu's relative's gold bar skill always a stun? I used her as a friend unit and she was stunlocking the entire map.

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>>15252521
so I take it that's an invitation to post /a/ shit here then?

>>15252257
Iris is hot without the psycho package, I agree.

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>>15252521
You know, I had some nice SF CGs to post to /a/, but I don't really want to now knowing shits like you exist.

>>15252751
Go post it to the /v/ thread.

the BETAD Sumika one.

>>15252877
Beatrix and Lise tend to cause shitstorms whenever posted outside of /a/'s dedicated ML threads.

They're very much hated by everyone unfortunately.

>>15252751
>Beatrix ass

Does anyone actually want to see that shit?

Besides, Meiya ass >>>> ALL.

>>15252901
>Lise
I know Beatrix is but I've posted and seen Lise posted around in other places and its quite fine really.

>>15252561
Yup. It always done that.

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It's the second time I get this map while doing 30sta.
At first I thought that maybe it was a special map that drops the ssr (still haven't gotten one in 80 or so runs) but both times I got stuck on the loading screen just after finishing it.
I guess it's just a bug.

>>15252923
>Does anyone actually want to see that shit?
You want to see all the polls she keeps winning?

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What was canon route of Unlimited?

If it was Meiya then Takeru would have seen his room rekt because both visited his home right?

>>15254101
It's Meiya if you want it to be, but the answer is don't read the next line unless you want to receive a massive spoiler
all of them.

>>15254115
K i'll finish the novel first before looking to that spoiler

>>15253114
wow that's pretty powerful. I guess the strongest team you can get is probably her, silly hat yui, kirke, ellen, that other girl with team attack up, and someone with an attack skill.

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>>15231439
http://i.imgur.com/ItQFPEB.jpg

/a/ is no help, so does anyone on /m/ have Kyoko's CGs?

>>15254856
Don't know how to break this to you, Anon. But that's the only CG of Kyoko so far.

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>>15254824
BEST IMOUTO

>>15254246
You won't need her if you have kirke in the squad.

Anybody happen to have KNG's pdf of translated TSFIAs lying around?

>>15254824

Harasho!

I'm from the future and just wanted to say its happening next week

>>15256991
Thanks, Shirogane-kun

>>15253905
Shit characters and anime win polls all the time.

>>15257474
And? That only means there is a fanbase there, for better or worse.

>>15257541
Yeah. It's hard for me to understand why she has much of a fanbase. Sure, she has Yukarin voicing her, and has a nice design, but it's not like that should be enough to give her staying power, especially when Lise and Iris are way more attractive, complex, and have more of a presence.

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>>15257557
The reason for most of them is this, and the references and connections to it shown in the story proper. But you should have known that already, it wasn't hard to notice that before summer 2015, the only Beatrixfags were masochistic fetishists. Also, in a series where hot girls are a dime a dozen, character design doesn't matter as much and Yukarin alone wouldn't pull enough to make her win almost constantly.

>>15257616
> in a series where hot girls are a dime a dozen, character design doesn't matter

I'd say it's more that Beatrix has the most eyecatching design in SM.

Iris is probably the hottest. She has great proportions, and she doesn't have the whole villain eyes that Beatrix has.

> But you should have known that already, it wasn't hard to notice that before summer 2015, the only Beatrixfags were masochistic fetishists.

Yeah, I don't get that. Only people who waifued her did so ironically. If you go back to pre-2015 /m/, they were pretty much calling for her head and treating her like a sadistic pervert. Then the anime comes out and actually confirms a lot of the negativity about her, but the fandom seemed to have done a 180 and completely ignored it, choosing to pick on Katia instead for who knows what reason.

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>>15257638
>Then the anime comes out and actually confirms a lot of the negativity about her,
Didn't you see all the bitching about how the anime was a bad adaptation? It wasn't entirely groundless, and the VN only reinforced that, otherwise age would have given up on marketing Beatrix, like they did post-anime when they ended up crashing one of their LNs sales.

>choosing to pick on Katia instead for who knows what reason.
That started as a joke and turned serious once her fans pissed enough people off. In the end the only real reason Katia gets picked on was due to some anime watchers with no real attachment to the franchise pissing enough of the regulars off, so when they left the resentment remained.

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>>15257678
I loved Katia from the VN and even I don't like anime onlys

>>15254824
>jpg

You're doing it WRONG!

why is SM even so popular? the heroines suck, everyone is an edgemaster, and the mechas are all old slavshit.

>>15258510
because babby's frist Muv-Luv

we got the same with TE

only muv which matters are the original and day after

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>>15241819
>>15241146
>Cancelled
We get this instead.

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>>15258929
>Super Hornet using swords
>pelvis is on backwards
>misaligned radar
>that giant fps counter

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>new ks update
>alternative release still in some editing limbo
>not even estimate about the release date

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>>15263021
>not even a word about the new Maniax

I don't know what I even expected from this so called "huge" update. At least some release dates finally. They couldnt even give us good sized pictures from the Codex either.

>>15263021
They got the money. Why work hard?

>>15254856
http://imgur.com/KkckLbY

>more slavs
How many cards do they have now?

>>15264782
Which slavs got more cards?

>>15264827
Inia got second SSR card and Cryska SR card.

>no free gems or guranteed TSF this event
What the fuck are they doing

>>15265203
CGs?

Is it me or it's easier to get HR pilot than R pilot in poorfag gacha? Like they want to slow down gem grinding as much as possible. Especially the baka trio. I was barely getting them and these past days they started dropping like candies.
Also they only give welfare tsfs now? Don't want us to grind gems from welfare pilots anymore?

>>15265385
Not to mention no more gems for doing a mission 10 times, and gems being moved the the S rank mission completion reward

>>15265385
I know your pain. Also is it just me or has the chance for a miss on every attack gone noticeably up?

>another fucking Shiranui

>>15265457
Enemy TSFs is Speed type, so they can evade your attack

>>15265382
Here's what I got of the new cards:

http://i.imgur.com/qtHsnG4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UU9sIsN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/H5M3Iqn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RUccQpT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vJpVhMq.jpg

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>>15257678
Beatrix was a globalist cunt who abused and manipulated a girl's love for her brother. If anything, I dislike the anime because it helped Beatrixfags pretend that the incarnations of the other Beatrixes in the LN and VN weren't even worse specifically because they weren't as openly cruel.

>>15263021
>Sekai Project
You brought it on yourselves.
Oh, and don't give me that spiel about it being degica and not specifically Sekai. They're cut from the same cloth.

>>15265203
yet there's still no sr or higher latrova

>>15265950
>Same translator, people working with both of them

i was a fool at the begin, but still better than nothing.

>>15265938
I still don't understand why you would prefer Lise to suffer more, have little to no chance to be reunited with Theo, still be used and possibly even be brainwashed to what she got in canon.

>>15266036
Beatrix could've just handed her over to him with no strings attached. Instead, she used and abused her trust and made her think that she Stasi couldn't be stopped. Even her own brother could've fallen into that trap at one point, but luckily Katia snapped him out of that and reaffirmed his commitment to justice in Lise's route.

Thankfully they took out that shitty NTR-ish plotline from the LN for the VN.

>>15266047
>Beatrix could've just handed her over to him with no strings attached

You have no idea what you are talking about. She didn't have that kind of power until she killed Schmidt. You are forgetting she has superiors who are watching her closely especially Schmidt since he wants to get rid of her.

>>15266063
It's one girl. Hardly a big deal. I don't think -you- know what you're talking about, not that I expect a Beatrixfag to make sense.

>>15266068
You don't just walk away from STASI. Your way of thinking is like that of a little kid.

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>>15266077
Yeah, but it was a little punk, with the help of a young woman not much older than her, that shut them down. Sounds to me like you're too defeatist.

>>15266047
>Beatrix could've just handed her over to him with no strings attached
Do you honestly believe that Beatrix would simply hand over a talented pilot to Irisdina? Its not even out of character, it breaks with one of the story's plotpoints.
>Instead, she used and abused her trust
How? And what trust? Lise's trust in Beatrix amounts to "I obey, and she doesn't harm me" and "If I bring her Theo, she'll let us be together". If Lise didn't fully trust Farka, whom she actually liked, why would she trust Miss "Bitch of the year '78 to '83"?
>made her think that she Stasi couldn't be stopped.
Its unknown what caused her to think that and being in any other unit could have resulted in the same.

On only a tangential note, what do you mean by "NTR-ish plotline from the LN"?

>>15266090
>>15266068
>>15266063
>>15266047
>Beatrix could've just handed her over to him with no strings attached.

That would be impossible. Because Lise was still Axmanns subordinate who was spying for him on Beatrix. But she turned double agent.

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It's the 1st March in Japan now! Happy birthday Ichimonji Takahashi!

Everyone give him your C O O L V I B R A T I O N S

>>15266123
I feel like I seen this scene before.

>>15265792
>.jpg

Stop that!

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>>15266123

>>15265938
>was a globalist
I don't get it. First of all she was propping up a government whose modus operandi was to be as isolated from everybody else as possible aside from the purchase of Soviet military equipment.

Secondly a huge theme in Muv-Luv is how humanity is short-sighted for squabbling amongst itself over nationalist dick-waving (see the entire coup arc, or Kamchatka) when there is an existential threat to the entire species like the BETA in play. The main characters are literally fighting in UN colors. What is the problem with "globalism" in this context exactly?

>>15265792
Someone should really update the panda.

>>15267355
They were both pretty nationalistic, but I'd say Beatrix and the stasi were way more short sighted and petty. The rebels just wanted to survive, while the stasi wanted to maintain power for a little longer even if they had to sacrifice their nation to do so.

>>15266090
>How? And what trust? Lise's trust in Beatrix amounts to "I obey, and she doesn't harm me" and "If I bring her Theo, she'll let us be together"

I wonder if Lise would have helped Theo take down Beatrix if given a chance.

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>>15266090
>Its unknown what caused her to think that
Its not explicitly elaborated on in the VN let alone the anime but in Requiem its similar to what leads to Beatrix thinking the only way is through the stasi. Basically stasi have the power to get away with whatever they want and the pressure from the BETA makes fighting the system that controls the frontline seemingly more harmful than good and it also just makes the stasi crack down even harder, it wasn't specifically the Werewolves or Beatrix that was the cause in Lise's case.

>>15266097
Its true the primary reason Axmann let Lise into the Werewolves in the first place was to use her as a double agent against Beatrix for the impending faction war within the Stasi, but Lise saw a better alternative in helping Beatrix as "the lesser of two evils", as long as the stasi rule then getting rid of Axmann and Schmidt is at least something, if the system can't be beat then changing the system from within in and what not.

>>15266036
What are you referring to? If you mean the Lise route then it actually is preferable out of the three endings given. Going through Axmann's "funhaus" again sucked but ultimately the brain injury caused by the confession agent/brainwash drug basically giving her brain a hard reset is actually the best if not only chance she has at a normal genuinely happy life in the future without all the stasi indoctrination and traumatic memories staying with her.

She still had to go through the normal recovery process for a person with a traumatic brain injury where the story left off with Theo taking her somewhere safe where he can help her heal and be happy again, and at the time while she didn't remember much she remembered Onii-chan, how much she loves him, and the vow they made to always be together. Its not an easy end but its a hopeful one for her.

How do i get gold points on this event?

>>15267127
>filename

Now that you bring it up, STAND A CHANCE PASTICHE FUCKING WHERE?!

>>15267616
Do the stamina 30 in the event.

>>15268249
do they drop from an easier one? the last event was easy but this one is too hard.

>>15267572
What's she reading?

>>15265792
Inia has a lot of scenes.

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>>15267572
>What are you referring to?
We've had these arguments for so long that certain anons are recognizable. The guy I am responding to has stated in previous ocations that it would have been preferable for Lise to have always remained under Axmann than to experience "fake" "niceness" under Beatrix. So more torment without even the possibility of Theo rescuing her, even if the brainwashing were to return to a blank slate.

>>15267355
>>15267531
>the Stasi in general and Beatrix in particular are responsible for East Germany's refusal to cooperate with the west
I never thought I would say this, but go rewatch the anime. Even there it isn't the stasi who has isolated the country for the last five years.

>>15222574
Are there really like less than 5 official lewds of Kasumi?

>>15269409
Someone ask jilpoong to make extra lewds of her to compensate for this lack, he seems like a cool guy.

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>>15269525
I heard of a way to get in contact with him these days

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>>15269525
>jilpoong

Anon, a ghost can't draw.

>>15268336
They do drop in the 24 one but 30 is the best for gold.

A bunker with the required tools for survivalist and supplies lasting a lifetime has been prepared and you're to be the only male who will repopulate the earth after a decision to nuke the planet or something like that. However, a lucky opportunity arises with you, as the sole living male you are allowed to bring with you nine females from across Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken for repopulating the earth after the cataclysm is over and done with. Who are your nine?

I'd pick the following: Tarisa, Stella, Natalie, Latrov, Sylvia, Gretel, Cui, Beatrix and Irisdina.

>>15268525
Farka

>>15270306
>Meiya
>Yuuhi
>Stella
>Pham
>Sharon
>Tarisa
>Cui
>Beatrix
>Ellen

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>>15266090
The "trust" I referred to there was the super-shaky hostage-style trust. She was a rotten character through and through and I still have no clue why people like her.

>Its unknown what caused her to think that
Constant torment, that's what.

>On only a tangential note, what do you mean by "NTR-ish plotline from the LN"?
From Requiem.

>>15268525
Theo could just blast him apart and save Lise, it's what he does in the end anyway. Why not skip the middlewoman?

>>15270306
I'd want to take the smartest and most talented Mabu Rabus (who happen to be some of the hottest too, go figure)

Yuuko and her sisters (all super intelligent scientists)
Beatrix (charismatic natural leader and extremely intelligent/loyal)
Irisdina (same qualities as Beatrix)
Lise
Marimo
Kasumi and a few espers (I want Newtype children too)

>>15270424
Why do people say that Beatrix is so intelligent?

I didn't see anything that made her particularly intelligent or charismatic in the anime.

>>15270435
>in the anime

>>15270435
Not sure if bait or actually serious.

>>15270435
She's not exactly smart in the VN either. She eggs on a guy who's only there for his sister - with said sister absent - gives him top-of-the-line equipment, and then gets shocked when he inevitably betrays her.

>>15270444
When it comes down to it, she's just a bully and thug wrapped in a package with wide hips and large breasts.

>>15270442
No, I'm genuinely curious. Other then her piloting skills (and even then, how much of that is her and how much of that is her TSF being way better then everyone else's), she doesn't seem that extraordinary compared to the other characters. Iris doesn't seem that special either, really. Gretel seems more brilliant when it comes to being brainy then those two. The only character who is phenomenally extraordinary, Katia, actually suffers for it and the fandom hates her.

>>15270390
>I still have no clue why people like her.
Not my fault that you can't read. Even if you think that their opinion is full of shit, the Beatrixfags keep explaining themselves thread after thread.

>The "trust" I referred to there was the super-shaky hostage-style trust
Anon, the theory that Lise had some form of Stockholm Syndrome was blown out of the water was blown out of the water five months ago. The only trust there is that Beatrix won't make her suffer for her own amusement.

>Constant torment, that's what.
Even you have admited that the constant torment ceased under Beatrix, regardless of your opinion that that is somehow worse. So Beatrix is to blame for things she doesn't do or aprove of?

>From Requiem.
Too ambiguous for an answer. Still don't get what you mean.

>Theo could just blast him apart and save Lise, it's what he does in the end anyway. Why not skip the middlewoman?
Anon, the Lise-route might be your favourite, but it only means that Theo will protect his imouto 1/3 of the time. Even less if you count the bad ends of the first VN. And that's not counting the LN and Anime. But lets asume that that Lise would have remained under Axmann.Why wouldn't Lise be broken further? Why would she have been sent to the 666th and why would Axmann risk a defection by her? Why would Theo learn of her survival and try to rescue her? Why wouldn't she be part of the Berlin battalion and get slaughtered by Beatrix when Axmann does his powergrab?
Sadly, for you, the middlewoman is necessary, because without her, some many things have to change, that you might as well rewrite the story.


>>15270424
>Beatrix (charismatic natural leader and extremely intelligent/loyal)
Any charisma that LN Beatrix might have had, is long gone anon. Socially retarded dork turned turbobitch who can't sense seething hatred and murderboners towards her is what you got now.

>>15270468
It seems to me that the Beatrix = Yuuko-expy has been taken too literally by some.

>>15270476
>so many obvious grammar mistakes and repeated words
I seriously need to stop drinking and posting.

>>15270476
>Even if you think that their opinion is full of shit,
That's what it comes down to, really. I'm looking for a real explanation and not something with more holes than swiss cheese.

>The only trust there is that Beatrix won't make her suffer for her own amusement.
Yeah, whatever. Point of the matter is, Beatrix didn't let her go and that's terrible.

>So Beatrix is to blame for things she doesn't do or aprove of?
She still tried to use her to have Theo turn against the 666th.

>Anon, the Lise-route might be your favourite, but it only means that Theo will protect his imouto 1/3 of the time.
True.

>Why wouldn't Lise be broken further?
Well, by the end of her route, she was!

>Sadly, for you, the middlewoman is necessary, because without her, some many things have to change, that you might as well rewrite the story.
Well, yeah, that's another thing. I think SM's a total mess.

>>15270483
You really should, I'm having trouble parsing what you're saying.

>>15270476
She knew Theo didn't like her, which is why she took precautions like installing a shutdown feature in his MiG. She was hoping that she'd be able to win him over (see the long session where she explains herself to him and tries to be somewhat nice) but it didn't pan out so she ended up relying more on threats. She did not expect the level of hate Theo had for her (how could she know that he was nursing all of his miseries, including his parent's deaths, on her) or Katia's speech (who would). Even so, Theo only managed to backstab her because her IFF was busted and she thought he'd fallen back with the others like he should have. I mean, you don't expect one of the people you're covering for to come back and kill you, do you?

>>15270486
>That's what it comes down to, really. I'm looking for a real explanation and not something with more holes than swiss cheese.
You want the short answer? Fetishists, Gap-Moe-fags and BiS. Long answer? Not even I really get it, and I'm defending the Bitch.

>Point of the matter is, Beatrix didn't let her go and that's terrible.
I would say that realistically she couldn't have, even if she had wanted to. But the Stasi in Muv-Luv are so over the top that that argument isn't strong enough, and the it won't convince you anyway. The guys above tried and failed. And it does go against Beatrix's to beliefs to let her go. Considering her grudge against Iris and her belief that her plan is not only better, but necessary, she might have though that she was actually helping Lise.

>She still tried to use her to have Theo turn against the 666th.
I think you have a tendency to ignore the fact that Iris' and Beatrix's vendetta against each other is an integral part of the story. Its not malice towards either Lise or Theo, their suffering is just collateral damage. And the responsability shared among the two dumb bitches.

>Well, by the end of her route, she was!
And if Theo wasn't there to rescue her, what then? Or what if she is broken beyond what happened in her route?

>Well, yeah, that's another thing. I think SM's a total mess.
That it is. Good idea, terrible execution. Even worse that its inital pitch was recycled for the Eurofront LN.

>>15270476
>>15270468
People say Beatrix is brilliant because she manages to shine in an extremely hostile environment (one that she does not even want to be in), outsmart individuals who've been manipulating people for longer then she's been alive, and bind a significant number of the stasi to herself by the age of 22. She's also taking on the regular army with what amounts to a police force, and nearly beats a general with over 40 years of experience. If BiS is anything to go off of, she was at the very top of her class and the salutatorian of the military academy. Some of the maneuvers that are used in SM (such as the one that Theo ironically used to kill her) were in fact developed by her.

>>15270587
>outsmart individuals who've been manipulating people for longer then she's been alive
Not really.
>and bind a significant number of the stasi to herself by the age of 22.
The charisma of LN Beatrix was written out of the two adaptation. She has the Werewolves and a number of others, but most were never really loyal to her.
>She's also taking on the regular army with what amounts to a police force, and nearly beats a general with over 40 years of experience.
Considering that the upper ranks of the NVA in general, and Heim in particular, being incompetent is a plot point, that's no great achievement.

>If BiS is anything to go off of, she was at the very top of her class and the salutatorian of the military academy.
Source on those spoilers, if they really are such. Iris and Beatrix being the top two of their year has been long confirmed, but their individual ranking is still ambiguous as far as I know.
>Some of the maneuvers that are used in SM (such as the one that Theo ironically used to kill her) were in fact developed by her.
Not only blatantly false, but pure fanwank.

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>>15270636
>Not only blatantly false, but pure fanwank.

急降下攻撃――!

【ベアトリクス】「それが切り札とはな――」
【ベアトリクス】「それは私とアイリスディーナが生み出した技だ――!」
【ベアトリクス】「――なに!?」

A dive attack--!

Beatrix: Your trump card-- (bemused)
Beatrix: Is a maneuver developed by Irisdina and me--! (angry)
Beatrix: What!?

>>15270671
Is it normal to get a boner from seeing Beatrix's lips?

>>15270671
I stand corrected. What about the rest though?

I jsut blew 60k in the friend point gacha and got absolutely no rare or high rare pilots. Bad luck or a tell of no more free gem farming?

>>15270671
Why do the BETA always look so terrible in SM?

>>15267074
http://i.imgur.com/0guSn0E.png

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>>15270920
More please.

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Rape and mind break Yui!!!

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>>15269545
Evil is not a toy!

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>>15269545
I used to have this when I was a kid, tfw I didnt get to use this ;_;

I wish I could turn back time and play with my neighbors who were mostly girls instead of just playing vidjas alone.

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>>15271406
>I wish I could turn back time
Don't we all?

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>not a single nigger here remembered Miki's birthday
Sad!

>>15270920
Another dream?

I just finished Alternative, why is there no gallery mode after the game?

>>15272492
It's an old game so they didn't think that deep. The new one should have that feature.

>>15272497
>It's an old game
Fate/stay night came out two years prior and had a a gallery mode

Im surprised there's no lewds for the 3 idiots?

Cant find a single one on sadpanda and gelbooru

>>15272375
Miki a shit.

How old is Mana? She's the best girl.

>>15235598
Fuck off Abicion

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>>15272375
Here accept my gift Miki-chan

>>15272492
Why would you want flash backs to suffering?

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>>15272553

All the yosei-san in the original RUGP were eaten by the BETA as they worked with age on Alternative, before they could produce the gallery function for it, so it shipped without one.

Later ML VNs were produced with inferior human-based iterations of RUGP, hence the lack of nipples on the sprites despite the working galleries. It was only recently that The Cookie regained that knowledge; some say, at the cost of his collection of Far Eastern art-decorated horseless chariots.

Today, in age's main office, there's a locked safe with a single external HD within. The safe shakes occasionally and its surface is getting increasingly dented, like from something hitting at its walls from inside.

Can someone remind me why the BETA arent attacking those space shuttles / space arks?

>>15273129
Plot

>>15273129
Baters dont have the means to do that or do not care. That Fort laser was probably only time they cared what happens in space.

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>>15273129

Out of range.

People thought the Heavy Lasers were going maximum drive in Alternative when HSSTs were getting plugged during re-entry, but that's since been revealed to be the work of the Fort Laser in TE.

The Alt.V escape ships are literally out of range, being that the ships and their shipyard were situated at an unspecified Lagrange point.

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>>15273129
They are out of range.

Laser class range: 30km
Heavy Laser class range: 100km

>>15273145
Is that the range of the laser itself or the range of their ability to sense the target?

>>15273155
Tracking ability IIRC

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Flying baters when?

>>15273182
SOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1feWsXW3uU

Anyone care to explain why muv-luv thread on /a/ and /m/ have the same OP?

>>15273390
nice bait

I love how Marimo doesnt shave her thick bush

>>15275179
And you know this, HOW?

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>>15275310

>>15272755
I would guess late 20's at the earliest to early 40's at the oldest. It really depends on what ageshe started working for the Mitsurugi's and how long she has been working for them.

Is there something wrong with me If I didnt get a boner during Takeru fucking Sumika but got one during the twizzler scene?

>>15275347
A little.

On the other hand after years of these threads I now get hungry for twizzlers whenever Muv-Luv is mentioned.

>>15275315
Not an option available to me.

>>15275648
https://exhentai.org/s/f1f811cf58/33866-365

>>15275655
But she does shave in Betaverse right? Piloting with a forest down there doesn't seem comfortable.

>>15275655
>This page can’t be displayed

Couldn't you just link the gallery itself?

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>>15277797
>He doesnt know how to access sadpanda

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>>15277797
> he can't get past the panda

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>>15278829
>can't get past the panda
>can't read the vn
>can only shitpost