Are they the best and strongest squad of Gundams?

Wing Zero can beat all of those in a 1v1.

>>15215994
Yeah they are pretty dull.

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>>15216015
I usually don't partake in these silly unending "who wud win" threads, but
>Wing "can't even resist its own gun" Zero
Sure, sure.

>>15216015
H ahahahajah NO

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>>15215994
>HG Final Battle Zabanya never
>HG Final Battle Harute never
>HG Seravee II never
;_;

>>15216770
Also HG GN-X IV never.

>>15216016
Meh, I never liked them that much. Only Exia was a good design.

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>>15216770
>HG Final Battle Harute never
At least there's this 3rd party one.
>RG/MG non-Setsuna's MS never

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>>15215994
God, I wish pic related was how Raphael looked like.

The armor still joins up to be a !seravee too.

>>15215994
Yes and Yes

>>15216016
I remember liking Exia, being fine with most S1 stuff. Painfully dull past that point.

>>15215994
What gundam squad are there?
Wing's would get beaten, half of them really aren't to the spec of 00 (Altron and Wing Zero are the only ones strong enough). Gundam X's team is even further behind.

ZZ's is pretty much the same thing, even in their own universe, only the ZZ is of any sort of value while the three others are already old and almost obsolete.

SEED Destiny's Akatsuki, Gaia, Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice is probably the most potent other squad there is and I'd say a good challenger.

>>15215994
>Unicorn, Banshee and Phenex.jpg

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lol no

>>15216770
>>HG Seravee II never
It hurts.

>>15216915
And we have a winner

>>15216915
This. Sure they look stupid but these guys are the stronkest Gundam squad we'll ever see.

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And these >>15216915 guys

>>15217157
00 movie gundams still beats G-Reco gundams.

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>>15216858
Also these guys and the crossbone vanguard team/steel 7

>>15217157
The G-Self Perfect Pack is the only one that's shown to be really strong. The others never kept pace with it.

>>15218197
G-Lucifer has proto-moonlight butterfly system. So it's pretty strong.

>hype up Descartes Shaman in promotion art and trailers
>does nothing, killed halfway into the movie
>don't even turn him into an ELS human as the final boss in an ELS Gundam

>>15218246
What was the purpose for the MB? Did it actually use it do anything?

>>15218261
I still liked his role as the man who was supposed to be the model of humanity's future be ripped apart by ELS.
Also how could there be a final boss when the key was just UNDERSTANDING?

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>>15218246
>proto
It was full-blown MB

>>15218287
Powered the mega beam launchers.

Remember that most pilots in RC know next to nothing about their machines, specially one like the Lucifer since they stole it.

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>>15215994
Why is this a thread.
I mean I like talking about 00, but this thread is just asking for shitposting.

>>15216770
You think they would've made the Zabanya FM a p-bandai kit.

>>15218353
>full-blown MB
eh, I didn't see anything turning into sand

>>15218384
Yeah, it didn't. It was just there for flash but didn't actually do anything so it actually doesn't have MB.

>>15215994
>Gundam PantsOnHead
>best
That movie was terrible. The only redeeming part of the whole mess was Celestial Being: The Movie.

>>15218461
>That movie was terrible
No it wasn't.

>>15218461
Fuck you I liked it. Perfect conclusion to the show imo.

>beamfags

>>15218337

He'd be the final adversary to overcome before being able to finally achieve understanding.

He wouldn't necessarily have to have been killed for this to be achieved.

>>15218496
>He wouldn't necessarily have to have been killed for this to be achieved.
I could settle with this considering previously understanding in gundam 00 menat beating the shit out of them until they understood.

>>15215994
In sheer killing power, the movie CB Gundams probably are the strongest.
It boggles me how Aeolia planned all this shit out. If his plan was off even by a few years, then the ELS could have come during Season 1, and there's no way the 3rd gen Gundams had any sort of chance against the aliens.
Now that's what I call bullshit.

>>15218578
He didn't expect contact to happen for much longer.

>>15218578
The worst part of 00 was the endless "Aeolia had this theory based of an asumption based of another theory based of something a 3 boobed gypsy fortune teller told him" asspull whenever they needed a new weapon or powerup. From start to finish they couldnt come up with shit unless aeolia had laid the ground work for them by forseeing everything while tripping out on shrooms n' crystal meth.

Actually him pulling shit out of his ass due to shrooms and meth would have been better than the eternal 100% correct theories.

>>15218601
The only thing he gave CB was Trans-am and the schematics for the twin-drive system.
Everything else was CB winging it.

Qan[T] was entirely of CB's own design.

>>15218654
Quan[T] was made by CB yes but the whole quantum communication thing and the Innovator shit it needed to work were all crap he asspulled.

It's not built from his asspulls but it is dependant on them.

>>15218660
You don't know what an ass-pull is, do you?

>>15218660
I guess you think newtypes are ass-pulls too.
Why are you even watching gundam.

>>15218601
>The worst part of 00 was the endless "Aeolia had this theory based of an asumption based of another theory based of something a 3 boobed gypsy fortune teller told him" asspull whenever they needed a new weapon or powerup.
That only happened with Trans-am and Twin Drive. Everything else was done by Celestial Being engineers. Bits and Bit control system: Celestial Being and Gundam Raisel, all HW packs for S2 Gundams: Celestial Being engineers, New sword for 00 Raider: Celestial Being engineers.

>>15216872
>Bullets doing anything to E-carbon and GN Composite Armor

Outside of its satellite cannon, the X and its variants are highly unremarkable.

>>15219434
I thought they had beam guns?

>>15219436
Honestly don't remember. All I remember was that their projectiles were yellow.

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>>15219467
gundams that didn't have beam weapons would have been remarkable as fuck, seeing as just about 99% of them have beams

>>15217157
you serious

>>15219436
Even so, e-carbon has some beam resistance plus each one has more manuverability and firepower than any from X.

>>15219756
>Even so, e-carbon has some beam resistance
E-carbon doesn't have beam resistance, you're thinking of GN composite armor. Everything in 00 is made of e-carbon and none of the grunts can tank beams unless they're using their shields, and even then lower power beams will fuck up things like the Flag's propeller shield after a few shots

The Gundams have the best GN composite armor, and can endure long range shots from the GN-X short beam rifle without problems and withstand a few seconds of the GN-X beam sabre before failing, as seen in the episode where Alejandro cuts off CB's Veda link and the Gundams were all disabled.

>each one has more manuverability and firepower than any from X.
Maneuverability yes, but not firepower. The twin satellite cannon still outstrips raiser sword as far as I know in range and width. The range on the twin satellite cannon is ridiculous, there were enemies that set themselves up in earth orbit on the opposite side of the moon thinking they were safe. Garrod himself is hundreds of thousands of kilometers away also in Earth orbit where he has line of sight with the moon and the enemy fleet, then repeatedly fires very accurate sniper-like warning shots then a single kill shot with the twin satellite cannon that destroyed a colony laser.

>>15220675
>E-carbon doesn't have beam resistance,
E-carbon doesn't have beam resistance but they definitely have physical resistance as seen with the Tierens easily resisted the Anf's physical projectile with no visible damage present.

>>15220675
>The twin satellite cannon still outstrips raiser sword as far as I know in range and width.
Nah, Quanta beats is in output and range. It can swing the quantum sword.

Plus Garrod would be completely fucked in daylight.

>>15220831

It'd probably help your point if you actually gave examples.

>>15221064
The moon isn't out during most of daylight.

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>>15215994

not even

>>15220675
Do we know where that group of colonies with the laser was supposed to be? I vaguely recall that the SRA's main group was over in the Earth-Moon L3, like Zeon, but I think the weapon was elsewhere.

>>15221068
That's not how the Moon's orbit works.

>>15221077
Er, Earth-Moon L_2_, not 3.

>>15221068

I meant the [Q]ant having greater range and power. Also, like >>15221077 said, just because the Moon isn't visible doesn't mean you can't establish line of sight with it. It'd only be a problem if it was blocked by a planetary body or something I'd imagine.

>>15221074

They don't pilot Gundams. None of them pilots even a single Gundam on even one occasion.

>>15221074
What are they going to do with their obsolete piece of shit? It is like bringing a stick into a war involving tanks and jet fighters.

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>>15220675
Eh, I don't know if the satellite cannon is stronger. The Qan[T]'s trans am sword is huge, with its length being unknown.
But Garrod definitely can fire the Twin Satellite cannons more often than the Trans-am sword can be fired.

>>15216795
big beams
yet weak

How?

>>15221261
Is it? I thought it was just an earth use Raphael.

>>15221243
>But Garrod definitely can fire the Twin Satellite cannons more often than the Trans-am sword can be fired.
That is a given since its energy source for the satellite cannon is from an outside source that beams itself to the X. Doubt the X with its internal power source is capable of powering the satellite cannon though.

The Trans-am sword definitely have the higher energy output seeing as how it was capable of creating a massive scar on the planet size object.

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>>15221243
According to the film, the ELS giant is about 3,000km in diameter.
So slightly smaller than the moon, which is 3,474 km in diameter.
The TransAm sword is enormous.

>>15215994
>strongest squad of Gundams?
God Gundam
Gundam Maxter
Dragon Gundam
Gundam Rose
Bolt Gundam

Nothing else in the franchise even comes close.
Domon Kasshu's on-screen feats not only dwarf those of every other Gundam MC, but also the entirety of the known laws of physics.

>>15221339
Turn-A would kick all their asses. Have them team up with 00 and Turn-A would still win.

>>15221348
Bitch, please.
The Turn A is superior in only one respect:
It is better at malfunctioning and coccooning itself.

Oh, no....wait....
Devil Gundam was better at that, too.

>>15216015
>Qan[T]
>Built for interstellar warfare
>Has a personal warp drive
>Can literally teleport behind you
>Has a sword that becomes a buster rifle capable of cleaving a planetary body in two.
>Piloted by an Innovator who has an Innovade as his mech's operating system.
>2x Unlimited energy-producing power plants

Now, Wing Zero is one of my favorite suits, period. But really, the only feasible thing that could go up against Qan[T] is the Turn A or X.

>>15217157
The G-Arcane would job, like it always has.
G-Lucifer might be a threat with it's Moonlight Butterfly.
G-Self is the only real all-round threat here.

>>15221415
Awakened Unicorn might also be able to do it. That thing is just blatant hax.

>>15215994
Idk if you can really call them a 'squad' when the four of them never fought together.

>>15219494
I mean, IBO suits only use kinetic weapons. So that's something.

>>15221423
Unicorn Units are mostly a threat to 00 movie suits from their remote weapon jacking. Zabanya would suffer the hardest but Harute and Raphael could do well.

>>15221423
I never understood the Psychoframe stuff. In CCA it allowed Amuro to push Axis away through "the will of humanity". In Unicorn, a suit with a powerful enough Psychoframe could literally make your wishes come true. And it's never explained what the Psychoframe is other than "a system that allows a pilot to control a mech using their thoughts".

>>15221439
Also, Chan's ghost made that floating T thing fly around.

>>15221439
Psychoframe is essentially thoughts->energy.

The understood consequence of this is that its influence can sorta cause reality to shit itself as the wielder just wills things to happen.

With the RX-0 line, there's so much of the stuff that its upper limit of bullshit is significantly beyond Nu's Axis Shock. Really the more of it you have the more powerful its effects are, it sorta gets to Lambda Drive levels of nonsense.

>>15221438
Actually, I think you've got it exactly backwards. Zabanya's bits are just controlled by the two Haros. Quanta, Harute, and Raphael all use quantum brainwaves for controlling their bits (and Seravee II).

>>15221457
>>15221459
That's why Chan tried to get the ReGZ to back up Amuro, she might have not achieved much, but since the suit had some parts with psychoframe, they could be used by Amuro for more newtype-magic.

>>15221438
Unicorn can only hijack shit controlled by Newtpyes/Cyber Newtypes though.
I feel like its handwave MS shutoff would be even more dangerous, however. There's literally no explanation how the hell Banagher did that.
But Quantum Burst and green Psychofield activating at the same time would be really pretty to see.

>>15221696
Everyone within several thousand kilometers would have a mental orgasm at the same time

>>15221415
God beats Qan[T]

Turns>G>00>Wing>Late UC>AGE>Seed Destiny in power.

Thats only talking about animated shit.

>>15221716
The three Unicorn units are much, much more powerful than the shit we see in F91 or Victory just because of all the Psychoframe hax.
Also, who the hell puts the one super robot show in Gundam into a powerlevel debate?

>>15221716
Qan[T] is basically a super robot.
Qan[T] would easily be able to take down the Devil Gundam by vaporizing the colony.
God struggled to take down Grand Master and needed all of his allies to join in.

>>15221716
>God beats Qan[T]
Even if you have a super robot powered by love and spirit, it's hard to beat a mech who can teleport away instantly and start vaporizing the entire country around you from orbit

>>15221732
>>15221739

People sure are overestimating Qan[T]. It has stated limitations. It couldn't even beat the ELS. Devil would absorb it.

>>15221748
The ELS planet-thing was the size of the fucking moon.
The entire forces of the ELS was enough to form a ring around Jupiter.

I think the ELS were a bit more of a threat than the Devil Gundam.

>>15221753
The Devil Gundam was going to eat everything. It was in the process of assimilating Earth. Setsuna couldn't do shit without Graham getting him an opening.

>>15221770
The ELS fleet faced off against the entire fleet of Earth, made almost entirely of GN-X's as powerful as Season 1/2 Gundams, and would have smashed through if CB wasn't there. That same Earth fleet could have trashed Devil Gundam and Neo Japan.

>>15221770
The thing is that the ELS could assimilate by touch. Engaging in any melee combat would be suicide. The only times melee worked was with suits in Trans-am moving too fast to be assimilated and most G gundam units can't move like that.

>>15221779
The Devil Gundam would just regenerate. Devil Gundam can eat beams too. It ate Shining Finger Sword.

>>15221808
Personally, I think the Devil can beat the 00 fleet, but didn't Devil eat SFS only because Domon missed due to hesitation?

>>15221808
Yeah and how big is that.

Now look at the post above and see how large trans am saber is. The beam itself dwarfs the Devil Gundam. And from what we can tell, it seems to have a length comparable to the moon's diameter.

>>15221808
Domon literally only won because Rain rejected the DG, and destroying the core DG sets off a chain reaction eliminating the rest of it.
Setsuna could literally teleport inside and the blast the whole thing to shit.

ELS doesn't have the same dilemma since it's a hivemind.

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I just thought of how scary ELS Qan[T] is as a combat unit. A shape shifting, assimilating, teleporter.
Moonlight Butterfly: Teleport in front of TurnA/X and grab it, boom assimilation imminent.

>>15221839
It also grows flowers

>>15221880
Turn A is now Turn Flower

>>15221372

The Turn-A never cocooned itself. I don't think it ever malfunctioned either for that matter. The Turn-X was the one cocooned. And that wasn't under it's own effort. Or at least, not entirely it's own effort.

>>15221839

> shape-shifting, assimilating

I mean, do we even know it can do either of those things? We know the ELS were in contact with the base [Q]ant, and restructured it, but I don't think there's anything that suggests there's ELS making up enough of the body (or any of it really) that it could shapeshift or assimilate enemies.

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>>15221839
The resin kit looks so fucking good done right.
I really wish Bandai made a proper mg of the ELS Qant.

>>15221888
After the Quantum burst it shed a bunch of armor including its feet.
When it came back, not only was that armor replaced, but the MS had a completely different look to it.

>>15216015
That's what a nostalgia faggot would only say

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>>15221888
>>15221893
here's the official illustration

>>15221888
They both got cocooned, anon.

And the Qan[T] went and became flowers. I think it's safe to say it didn't just get rebuilt.

>>15221893

Yes, I know. Just because it looks different doesn't mean it can now assimilate or shape-shift though, only that the ELS restructured the unit during the intervening years. They can restructure it without it gaining those capabilities though, especially since the base unit is almost undoubtedly still under an ELS skin and that ain't going to be shape-shifting.

>>15221898
Correct Century v00 when.

>>15221839
>>15221889
Those tentacles are just silly. It should have some sort of ring for the GN theme or something space flower themed instead.

>>15221903
It's made of ELS.
All of the ELS stuff is made of ELS.
And all of everything ELS has demonstrated the capability to assimilate and shape-shift, including the ELS GNXIV's and the fuckhuge moon ELS.
So it's safe to assume it has the capability to assimilate and shape-shift.

The fact that it has the ability to shape-shift is demonstrated right at the end, when it covers itself in flowers.

>>15221919
Setsuna really got into the angel theme.

>>15221903
The ELS can slap a bunch of themselves together to form a fully-functioning GNX-IV.
It's safe to say that restructuring isn't an issue.
Plus Setsuna probably taught them a bunch of shit while he was off fixing their planet.

For the hell of it I read a VS thread from 2013, and oh boy was it hostile.
/m/ really has mellowed out with age.

>>15222060
That's because /m/ decided it'd rather be ironic and retarded rather than just retarded, trust me some people will still get autistic about this stuff if they want to push a narrative.

>>15222060
Link?

>>15222079
http://4chandata.org/m/00-QanT-vs-Turn-A-a366191

If anything, the God Gundam is severely overestimated in these threads. It's autistic Zeta to green psycoframe Unicorn-tier at best.

>but muh defeating the Colony Devil

Bitch, please. It was a classic Death Star trench run, Domon had to talk the core into beating itself, and God by itself sure wasn't doing jack shit against Grand Master.

Snow White beats everything bar the turns.

>>15222182
>White Wing Zero EW
>Beating any 00 movie gundam
pick one.

>>15221716
>Wing higher than Seed and Age

Despite the Seed and Age being shit, it is still far more advance than Wing.

>>15221748
Bitch please. ELS would assimilate the Devil Gundam and give birth to the unholy abomination that is the ELS Devil Gundam.

>>15218461
>Gundam Squarepants

>>15222210
>He doesn't know how bullshit Snow White is

>>15222322
Suits in Seed are shit on by beams. Suits in Wing can shrug off weaker beams. Suits in Seed are fat as hell and most run on batteries. Suits in Wing are lightweight and run on nuclear reactors.

>>15222322

Not him, but what makes them more advanced? CE really only has phase shift and the voiture lumiere technology that I can think of, which AC has analogues of in Gundanium and whatever Deathscythe Hell used to turn invisible. CE mentions quantum computing as well, but I don't think it ever really does anything with it. And the Zero system is an AC analogue of it regardless really.

I'm not even sure what you could say AG has going for it beyond those miniaturised bits. I guess you could say it has the AGE builder and whatever the hidden trove of ancient tech was called, but SID was apparently the culmination of that, so I wouldn't be impressed or use it as evidence personally. AC might not be the most advanced setting, but it appears at least the equal of either CE or AG to me, and I'd put it ahead of AG at least.

>>15222379
I haven't read Frozen Teardrop, care to explain?
All I've heard about Snow White is that it has a new buster rifle and some sort of nanomachines.

>>15222431
Snow White wasn't damaged by 3 point blank shots from weapons stronger than the TBR. Snow White wasn't damaged by Wing Zero Black's TBR, Snow White has 7 extra ammo types for its rifle
It can shoot fire birds
It can shoot ice birds to freeze things
It can combine them
It can create a lightning storm
It can create tornadoes
It has an ammo type that drills through cockpits
It has an ammo type that binds you and causes your weapons to damage you if you use them
It has an ammo type that shuts down enemies
It can create after images with speed alone

Warlock is bullshit too
It can create over 50 clones
It controls nanomachines
It can create the illusion of nighttime
It has wings of light

>>15222462
So it runs on magic?

>>15222462
Ya know, not even Leos Alloy, the literal gundam OC, sounds that mary sue-ish.

>>15222467
Long story short, Sumisawa can't even tell the difference between a military and fantasy setting, nothing he does makes any sense.

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>>15222462
So glad this will never get an anime.

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>>15222477
Ah, so Sumisawa mistook Wing Zero Custom from Gundam Wing for this Zero.

>>15222462
Was there an explanation, even a half-assed one, how this sort of technology emerged?
UC's hax were explained by Newtypes and psychoframe magic.
00 hax was explained by Innovators and GN Particle magic.
But FT seems like it's just magic.

>>15222182
>>15222462
If Warlock can control nanomachines couldn't it beat the Turns?

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>>15222532
Nanomachines son, ain't gotta explain shit. Seriously though, it is nanomachines.

>>15222462
This sounds completely retarded. Cosmic Era isn't the worst timeline anymore.

>>15222546
That's not an answer.

>>15222540
I would imagine he meant control its own nanomachines, not hijack others like the Unicorn.
That does bring up the question - can an awakened Unicorn take control of the Moonlight Butterfly?

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Here's the two mobile suits in question

>>15222562
It never was, that title belonged to X. It is just so forgettable.

>>15221748
You got that backwards friend. ELS would assimilate DG cells

>>15215994
>including movie-only forms in power level discussion

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>>15222744
The movies are canon anon

>>15222744
>Canon ending to tv series with worldwide release.
I guess we can't ever include CCA in discussion again them too.

>>15222744
So we can't talk about CCA or F91 suits now, too? Damn.

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Anyone else prefer the original movie designs?

>>15221459
Why did late-UC lose this stuff then? Psychoframe doesn't make an appearance past Unicorn, and I'm sure Anaheim and SNRI would've liked to have that kind of tech in their hands.

>>15222914
Because Unicorn isn't canon.

>>15221748
According to it's manual the Quan[T] could've taken on the entire ELS swarm in about a week if Setsuna failed to establish communication. Celestial Being had a working plan B in the form of the Quan[T]'s offensive capability.

>>15222919
No, that didn't take into account that they could regenerate or pilot fatigue.

>>15222322
SEED has one of the lowest "tech tiers" in the Gundam francise, next to possibly IBO. In most series Gundams and other Mobile Suits use fusion reactors for power. In SEED, the most advanced suits use fission reactors, which are significantly less advanced. Yes, they have beam shields, but even those aren't impressive when you consider the fact that the tech behind them is basically a radial beam saber emitter.

>>15222918
More they couldn't fit it in the smaller frames with reduced production costs

>>15222462
What the shit. That sounds like some deviantart-level mary sue bullshit.

Also, "Your sight, my delight"

>>15222941
No, it's more like they couldn't find a way to explain why all the psychoframe bullshit didn't make its way further into F91 and Victory.

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>>15222647
Why are they ripping off of star wars?

>>15222930
Less impressive than UC's beam shields with intuitive features like cutting off sections of the shield so it doesn't damage the unit in close quarters.

>>15222930
IBO suits have much better power sources in the form of Ahab reactors, and nanolaminate has been shown to have anti-beam properties, which beats out PS. SEED has superior offensive capabilities in their use of beam weapons though, and are basically impervious to any MS from IBO.
I'd say they're about equal.

>>15221474
The Re-GZ doesn't have psycoframe at all, she actually just wanted to get the T shaped psycoframe sample to Amuro.

Which she was able to do.. after the Re-GZ blew up, Chan's psycoframe sample was spinning around the battlefield.

>>15222588
Moonlight butterfly has nothing to do with psycommu tech so no, it cannot.

>>15222914
Anaheim does have the tech in their hands. In Unicorn episode 3, it's mentioned by some of the Nahel Argama crew that AE's Granada facility on the moon is the only place that can make psycoframe, and that it's supposed to keep it a secret under wraps.

>>15222964
Strike Freedom used a partial beam shield to block the Destiny's anti-ship blade. It's what causes the shitton of flying sparks and flashing light on screen when the sword is caught, as simply catching the sword with the machine's hands wouldn't cause that much sparks and light, especially when there wasn't that much metal-on-metal contact scraping after the sword catch.

>>15222968
>are basically impervious to any MS from IBO
Until their batteries run out of power after being repeatedly smash by melee weapons.

>>15222462
Where the fuck did Frozen Teardrop say ANY of that?

>>15222968
SEED MS also have railguns.

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>>15223121
believe it if you want or not, I think most of these translations come from deacon blues via animesuki or something

>>15223121
Have you actually read it or even read summaries? Quatre uses the Ice and Fire ammo against the Prometheus, Quatre uses the Black and White ammo against Virgo IV and Warlock, Heero uses the green ammo against Prometheus and something else, Heero uses the silver ammo against Wing Zero black and Heero uses the gold ammo in the final battle iirc.

>>15223042
>Moonlight butterfly has nothing to do with psycommu tech so no, it cannot.
Yeah, but crystallized Unicorn shut down the General Revil suits, and those had no psycommu tech either.
I think the best option is to just consider Unicorn as non-canon.

>>15223154
yes, but for some reason they're considered stupidly weak compared to regular guns, and they have not replaced conventional chemically propelled weapons at all

there was a scene in stargazer where the EA linear tank commander said they basically have to close to point blank range and unload three rapid fire shots to penetrate the ginn's armor (at the risk of ruining their own tank's linear railgun)

>>15223165
That wasn't the Unicorn performing a hijack like it did against the Kshatriya's funnels in OVA episode 3, that was just more of the same psycofield shenanigans like when Full Frontal wished for the two Unicorns' weapons to explode and when Banagher and Riddhe projected psycofields in front of the colony laser's path. Neither of those required the target to have any psycommu tech.

In that specific scene, Banagher and the Unicorn literally just wished for them to stop their attack, so all of the suits' reactors shut off.

>>15223183
Is that specifically what is said to happen? Seems like psycommu signals affecting minovsky particles (including the ones used to run reactors) would be way less bullshit than literal magic, but Japan does like that mystical angle.

>>15223183
Honestly newtype bullshit is the strongest hax in all of gundam.
Screw Gundams, just give the pilots a golf cart made entirely out of Psychoframe, and watch them throw the moon into the sun.

>>15223213
>golf cart made entirely out of Psycoframe
>Accidentally break the cupholder
>Flung through spacetime and become a newtype ghost (even though you're an oldtype)

>>15223244
>RX-0GC
>A white golf cart with a horn.
>If a newtype is in it and the machine senses another newtype it enters Destroy Mode
>Another cup holder flips out and the glove compartment opens.
>There is a gun in the glove compartment.

>>15223315
A gun MADE OF PSYCHOFRAME

>>15223321
and flying golf clubs

>>15223042
I thought that the ReGZ was retrofitted with a little bit of psychoframe that was left or something...
Anyway, my point still stands, mo' psychoframe, mo' newtype-bullshit.

https://twitter.com/tohirokonno/status/833141390007603200

3/4 of these (except for raphael) are ridiculously powerful on the newest gundam extreme vs. in JP arcades
I'd say this is the best "official" gundam team there is

>>15221919
>>15221889
I think the tentacles are supposed to invoke a flower petal imagery

>>15222766
What could have been. That looks so much better

>>15224201
It was the only one though.

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>>15222766
There isn't much of a difference except the sword and the lack of chest vents.
and I love the chest vents.

have you seen Black history Turn A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb2r-9QuDtk

ITT: pinoys and malaysians

>>15222766
I like the color scheme better, but in terms of the design I prefer the final version (aside from the sword).

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>>15215994
>strongest squad of Gundams?
>squad
So like
Shuffle Alliance from G
Four heavenly kings from G
Wing's boy band
The vulture squad from X (does Jamil's grouped even have a name of it's own)
Athruns piano boy band from SEED
Dead Astray girls
Druggies from seed
Neo's druggies from Destiny
Perfect victory team from destiny
Meisters 00 to trailblazer
trinity team 00
I guess the Asuno family in Gen 3 of Age


Any others
Personally I take the Shuffle alliance

>>15225317
The early design of Zabanya looks better than the final one, which looks like a bunch of bricks laid atop each other.

But the concept arts shit all over the final designs.

>>15226289
Why hasn't there been a game with ELS Quanta yet?
I mean it could even have an attack where it just rams the enemy, and absorbs them.

>>15226526
Because Setsuna would just sit there and tank attacks until he UNDERTSANDING'd the opposing pilot into joining his side.
Actually that would be kind of funny.

>>15226526
It would be like ditto.
And once it absorbs them, it has their attacks.

>>15226289
That's terrifying as fuck. What kind of war must have been going on for this thing needing to be used?

>>15226535
Pacifist run in SRW

>>15226442
The final Zabanya had those mean-looking clawed feet though.

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>>15226535
It would be interesting if an SRW game had some hidden requirements that would get Setsuna to fuck off with the ELS, only to return at the end of the game.
At which point you can choose to either fight as usual, or have a Fallout 2 Master style discussion with the final boss, potentially convincing them to give up or see the wrongness of their ways.
But that will never happen.

>>15222927
More like they did not account that ELS can imitate and learn.

But the week clean up is still a bold claim, since ELS can fuck up Innovator QBW at any time.

>>15226558
against fully power TX, and there were apparently 100 TA, and 99 of them are destroyed by TX

>>15228260

There were? Where was that claim made, because I've never seen any of it and I'm disinclined to believe that Sunrise or Tomino were ever that specific about things.

>>15228389
pretty it was on one of the ta or tx model kits

Is the Harute or Zabanya more powerful than a 00 Raiser that's still equipped with GN Drives?

>>15228424

It's not from the MG stuff at least, and I can't see it being on the HG stuff if it's not there.

>>15222746
So which one of them is more Gundam? Mikazuki or Setsuna?

>>15226579
Or you could have his attack drain their Will and upon hitting zero they give up

>>15228260
>>15228871

It kind of contradicts the fluff to go like that anyway, since according to the MG manuals the Turn-A was built by an Earthsphere power based on the Turn-X after the Turn-X was found floating at the edge of the solar system, and with the assumption they'd have to fight something similar in the near future. When no such enemies appeared, the unit was used to end other wars and eventually people began to fight with the suits, with the Turn-A and Turn-X being eventually fighting. The Turn-X lost and the Turn-A destroyed civilization. There's no mention of there being 100 Turn-A's built, or fighting - only one of each. And there's certainly no mention of the Turn-A being used by whoever built the Turn-X.

http://pastebin.com/DPLgZy5Z

> Turn X is a machine that drifted to Earth from outside the solar system for some unknown reason. It's supposedly an MS created by people who left the Earth sphere in search of a new frontier long ago, and is seemingly made to be piloted for the people who were known as newtypes. Thus, it cannot draw on its full power in the current Earth sphere which has no newtypes.
> Regardless, the people of Earth feared its advanced technology, and wary of an invasion from outside the solar system, created the Turn A Gundam and its systems based on the Turn X's technology. In the end there were no invasions, and it instead put an end to the wars on Earth.
> There was once a war between two factions, one that believed that civilization should be reset so that mankind could start anew, and one that wanted to solve all problems with technology, and the Turn A and Turn X, representing the two factions, clashed, and this resulted in the Turn X losing.

Also, if the Turn-X destroyed 99 Turn-A Gundams, then the Turn-X would need to have an absolutely stellar pilot and those Turn-As would have to be piloted by brain-dead paraplegic monkeys, given how similar in strength and resources they are.