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Gundam Reccomendations?

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Best series and/or starting point for beginners?
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>>15211908
Start with the original
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>>15211908
use the rec chart
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>>15211908
Either the original MSG series or movies, it's still the best entry point there is. I started with the later AU series myself and I wouldn't recommand it.
If you really can't stand late 70's looking series (you should question why do you want to watch Gundam then), maybe Gundam 00, it takes itself way too seriously, but it's decent, plus there's a clean breakdown at episode 25 if you really can't stand it finally but want to finish it.
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>>15211923
kill this meme already
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>>15211923
haha this is so bad
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08th MS Team, War In The Pocket, or any of the OVA series because they are sort and some people just don't want to sit through 50 episodes, because they are EF scum
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If you don't care about chronological order, I recommend you watch Victory or X first.
Those are the two series I don't really have major issues with, and both protagonists are pretty great.
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>>15211943
>>15211946
Nice samefagging, troll
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>>15211908
It's shit just go watch Votoms instead.
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>>15211923
Just start with the original then check out the chart.
>>15211923

I mean you could start anywhere, but MSG didn't make Gundam a household name for nothing.
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I got my friend hooked by making him watch origins first. Then I gave him thunderbolt, 8th MS team, and 0083. Now he just wants more.
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>>15211953
I'd say X has more weight when you've seen at least MSG and maybe Zeta. Jamil and the whole newtype stuff, the Frost brothers make more sense when you've seen MSG, even though they stand on their own. Since X is all a reference to basically an alternate OYW, it's funnier I think, to have seen the base material.
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>>15211985
so you have him all the flashy shit and now he expects everything to look like that

wow great friend
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>>15212011
Well it's an easy way to get them into it when they're so anti mecha. Slowly working him down and he likes it a lot. Thinking I'll show him G gundam next for fun, or if I need something flashy again it'll be 00 or IBO.
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Can i just watch the movies instead of watching 43 episodes for the first Gundam series?
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>>15212068
No. Watch the show.
Not even being elitist. More character development, and even the off-eps like Doan's island are enjoyable.

Only watch the movies as a first if you just plan on rushing through UC and don't really care.
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>>15212090
Cool, downloading now. Wing and SEED was my entry to the series, would love to try getting into the lore of first gundams.

On another note, is 00 good?
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>>15212106
Season 1 is great. Season 2 is a bit of a trainwreck, but I found it enjoyable enough
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>>15212106
I will say yes, but only because 00 is my favorite Gundam show.
So just letting you know the bias is there.
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>>15212106
Season 1 starts off slow but builds to an amazing crescendo at the end. Season 2 starts off great, loses its plot a bit in the middle, but finishes strongly. The movie is controversial, but is in my opinion the perfect conclusion to the series, its themes and plot, and dares to try something different (though I its not for everyone's taste).

Also greatest love story in all of Gundam.
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>>15212106
>would love to try getting into the lore of first gundams.
Watch the movie trilogy for 0079, then Zeta, ZZ and Char's Counterattack, which make up the main plot of UC Gundam. The rest is mostly side stories and aren't really essential to the overall plot (though the OVA animation is nice).

Also avoid dubs in general because outside a few exceptions, they're generally range from mediocre-terrible.
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>>15212068
ye, the writers decided to cut out the parts that were deemed too cheesy. Watch the movie if you just want to get it over with. Not sure if i can say the same about A New Translation though, its way too fast you miss some things.
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>>15212178
The first Zeta movie is alright, the other two are rushed as fuck and near incomprehensible if you haven't watched the show.
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>>15212106
1st season of 00 is good, second season is meh but with some good fights.
Movie is trash though
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>>15211908
Best start with Iron Blooded Orphans, it has sick battles and is actually realistic and mature unlike the other shallow and cartoony Gundam series
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>>15213001
>it has sick battles and is actually realistic and mature unlike the other shallow and cartoony Gundam series
This has to be bait.
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Gundam 00
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>>15211908
Are you looking for legit quality shows, or do you just want to ingest everything so you "understand" what Gundam is all about? "Just watch all of it" isn't the best advice when it comes to recommendation threads. Don't listen to people telling you to power through every single series as if you could do it over the weekend. Unless you're unemployed or something, in which case do whatever you want.

But if time is a resource AND you're looking for something that isn't dogshit, watch the original 0079. The series can be a real slog in the middle (when Char disappears from the plot for no reason for like 20 episodes) but it starts well and ends well. Or just watch the compilation trilogy if you're willing to sacrifice some pacing quality and character development.

The Origin is also great if you're familiar with the premise of UC Gundam. Definitely check it out if you liked 0079 - production values are high, and the writing is surprisingly good, as well as the animation and soundtrack. Very solid all around. Some purists like to throw shit fits over Origin, but don't listen to them.

Zeta is the next step if you want more UC. Watch the first three episodes before making any judgments. IMO Zeta wasn't the most compelling show and accomplished less across 50 episodes than 0079 did. ZZ is in the same vein - you can watch the first 10 episodes and the last 10 episodes and feel like you haven't missed much at all.

Char's Counterattack is a fucking crime against screenwriting. You will miss nothing.
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Where can I get a good torrent for The Origin?
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>>15213456
try Nyaa
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>>15213443
>Char's Counterattack is a fucking crime against screenwriting.
>You will miss nothing.
But Amuro being on total fire, wrecking shit like there's no tomorrow. Amuro being great, blasting stuff left and right ending with his fight with Char is still the only real redeeming value of CCA...
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>>15211908

Depends on what you are looking for.

If you are serious about this and not afraid of the dated cartoony feel watch MSG. The story is actually surprisingly deep even though you might not get it all at once. That's why I don't recommend starting with the movies. They'll just fly over your head.
I consider Zeta to be advanced stuff but it pretty much set in stone the serious political intrigue + human drama formula that many other mecha shows follow so if you like this you might enjoy it in an at least superficial sort of way. Or you might hate it because you hate the characters.
You might enjoy ZZ if you are into classical 80s slapstick.
CCA is advanced Tomino. Unless you are intuitively tuned in to some high-end Shakespearean drama autism the only reason you'd probably enjoy it on its own is mecha porn and there are many other shows that do that better.

The other most common entry points are either:

Early UC OVAs - the classics: 0080(muh feels),0083(muh shading),the 8th MS team(muh Vietnam war), the recent: Unicorn(The Force Awakens), The Origin(The Prequel Trilogy) and Thunderbolt(Rogue One???)

Teen-pandering AUs - Wing(high-density 90's chuuni autism),SEED(early 2000's teenage melodrama),00(late 2000's omnipandering)

For someone not into Tomino F91 still has the fascination of those nonsensical but pretty-looking old-school OVAs.

G if you are into super robots.

Build fighters if you like toy-commercial kids show. It might actually inspire you to watch some of the main shows.

If you don't mind "boring" stuff and want a decent story that stands on it's own and doesn't feel like it was specifically designed to appeal to a particular audience you have:
Turn A - a comfy WMT sort of thing with added in light quirkiness. If you like this sort of thing you might consider it one of the finest entries.
Victory - pretty solid, frequently absurd but still pretty accessible.
X - a completely harmless and inoffensive 90's JRPG romance sort of thing.
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>>15213001
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>>15211908
>Best series and/or starting point for beginners?

Any starting point is good. Avoid IBO.
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>>15213624
How exactly do you consider Zeta to be "advanced stuff"? I'm genuinely curious, because after I finished Zeta and CCA, I wanted to throttle Tomino. IMO they are legit poorly-written, extremely poorly-paced, and have very little consistency. I absolutely do not buy into the notion that they're some sort of avant-garde pieces of work that only a master auteur such as Tomino could create.
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>>15214169
I bet you think The Origin is good.
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>>15211908
G-Reco
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>>15213473
I am watching everything.

In chronological order. You can't stop me.
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>>15214231
desu I don't know why the whole production order elitism is so rampant. I'm did chronological and had a blast.
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>>15214243
Because some jumps from recent animation to older ones and vice versa can be strange?
(0079 -> 08thMS -> 0080 -> 0083 -> Z for instance would be some hefty rollercoaster age wise).
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>>15214187
At least Origin has story structure.
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>>15214255
Depends on the viewer, honestly. I don't give a shit about the age of the animation, personally. The tone of the story affects me more than the aesthetic, I'd say.

0079 annoyed me at times with how it portrayed Earth as if it were a barren wasteland devoid of all life (which I assume is because it's easier and more cost-efficient to animate barren wastelands than actually do some visual world-building). But beyond that, once I get into the groove of one show's style after two or three episodes, I tend to look past any differences in animation, and the continuity blurs together as one.
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>>15214169
I don't know if I would call it advanced, but despite Zeta's issues with pacing it has interesting characters that explore interesting themes. It's not a perfect series, but it's as good as Gundam has ever got along with its predecessor. CCA has deeper issues, but it succeeds at providing a thematic capstone that concludes the greater story.
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>>15214169
The fact that there are people who believe things like that makes me think it is advanced.
Trust me, when I say that it's not because I think it's an extremely complicated artistic creation that only a naturally gifted genius like me can comprehend. It's basic emotional intelligence stuff that should be taught in school and I would like everyone here and everywhere to understand it very much but the fact is that most people don't.
Again, I'm not trying to sound all important. I didn't get it at first either and if I eventually sort of did it's probably because I can personally relate to some of the issues which I guess is not something to be very proud of. And the fact is that even if I tried to explain in a simple way and I've tried many times I still couldn't.
It's kind of sad but this is just the sort of society we live in.
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>>15214295
>0079 annoyed me at times with how it portrayed Earth as if it were a barren wasteland devoid of all life (which I assume is because it's easier and more cost-efficient to animate barren wastelands than actually do some visual world-building)

It's because the earth is so polluted.
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>>15214982
Plus all of the damage from the war and the colony drop.
Master Asia would have killed every participant in the OYW if he saw what they wrought.
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>>15214929
>Again, I'm not trying to sound all important. I didn't get it at first either and if I eventually sort of did it's probably because I can personally relate to some of the issues which I guess is not something to be very proud of.
I think it's more so that people here don't really familiarize themselves with anything but Chinese walking tank cartoons. That's not to say I think Zeta is fifty episodes of sustained genius -- it has issues too -- but a lot of people here miss even the most overt thematic points and motivations in the show. Katz or Jerid, for example.

Instead of meeting the show halfway and asking why characters often display exaggerated emotions or behaviors and what that might convey they just dismiss it wholesale. I get not liking the show, but the idea it doesn't have any merit at all is a little ridiculous.
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>>15211965
>Gundam a household name
>household name
nobody cares about mecha
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>>15216576
Everybody in Japan knows what a Gundam is even if they don't care about mecha.
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>>15211908

Start with the original. I finished watching it a few days ago, and am now currently on Zeta Gundam.

The original Mobile Suit Gundam is fucking kino
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>>15214255
Only a viable excuse if you're utterly lacking in taste. The only one you shouldn't watch in chronological order is 0083, which should go after Zeta.
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Start with Wing or 00.
You have to start from the worst, so it will get better with every new show.
But seriously, watch Tomino shows, the rest is only commercial driven bullshit
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>>15218392
Wing was actually good though
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>>15211908
AGE
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