Can we get a thread going for mobile suits that we like that are often overlooked?
I'll start:
Hydra Gundam
>>15199397
Here's another:
Gundam Burnlapius
>>15199406
d-DONT BULLY JAMESGUN
>>15199397
Generally all of the G-units designs are often overlooked. Which is sad, because most of them are really awesome.
>>15199439
Indeed.
Basically all of the Jupiter Empire MS from Crossbone. It's a shame, they're up there with Titans and Neo Zeon in terms of sexy MS design.
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/MSN-03-2_Psyco_Geara_Doga
>>15199439
Hydra gundam looks cool in its MS mode, bu the MA mode is retarded as fuck looking.
>>15199522
>>15199424
>>15199406
These are fucking beautiful
Someday...
Jeagans are like to the federation what the Zeeks are to Zeon
>>15199646
Please, at least your part of a line that has had a large number of worthy battles and encounters
>>15199547
Well I like Greipe and it's mobile armor looks like shit, while its suit looks good.
>>15199647
Your sentence doesn't make sense because Zeek already just means Zeon
It had, like what, 5 seconds of screentime?
It got a bit of attention in Unicorn, but its always overshadowed by the GM Sniper. But goddamn it the rifle for the Zaku 1 sniper is objectively better looking than the rifle for the GM sniper.
>>15199950
It got a lot of attention in Unicorn.
MG42 is super aesthetic.
I kinda wish the Forbidden Blue was in more material, I mean an aquatic Gundam that gets animated is pretty rare. Unlike Abyss, Forbidden Blue is purpose built for underwater operation.
>>15199397
This variant of the Hazel has my favoritechestdesign.
>>15199994
Who's the mechanical designer for aoz? Those illustrations are so sharp and consistent.
>>15200065
http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=kenki_fujioka
>>15200065
They are all consistently shit
>>15200074
Byotiful.
>>15200078
Hush now.
>>15199406
The Hrairoo has a special place in my heart.
>>15199880
My bad.
Here, have a B-type Jegan
>>15199429
But that's a Heavygun,
>>15199950
I use it in MSGBO. It doesn't have a Heat Hawk, though, really forces you into support.
>>15200128
>>15200172
all mechas in F91 and 0080 are very likable.
>>15200259
So sexy
This fuckin' madman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-iciwqpCr4
Here's another Crossbone suit.
I really like the Asshimar, which I feel like not many others do.
>>15199439
Can you imagine how large that cape is
>>15202551
D@ dick doe
>>15199485
What is that?
for me it'd be the Proto Psyco Gundam
>>15202599
I think it's kind of rad.
>>15202950
I think you're rad, Anon.
It sucks that they dropped the Guncannon so hard in favour of exclusively all-purpose MS. All of the revivals it gets (0080, Origin, the transforming tank MS from F91 and Unicorn if those count) are only so the new Zeon suits have something to beat up on too. Surely fire support should have some role in MS combat.
>>15202825
Its the Xeku Zwei from Sentinel I believe.
>>15203048
The GM cannon 2 kicked ass though, and it was much more Guncannon than it was Jim
Almost anything from Victory could fall into this for me.
The Aquarius looks like it's straight out of a OG SRW game. I love it.
>>15203097
Those lizard eyes in the Zanscare suits are really threatening.
>>15202961
ohmygosh
>>15203097
Bourgeois space-fascists make snazzy mecha.
>>15199397
>Hydra Gundam
>>15199424
>Gundam Burnlapius
>>15199439
>Generally all of the G-units designs are often overlooked. Which is sad, because most of them are really awesome.
Pretty much anything from G-Unit is indeed superb and vastly underappreciated. Early work by BEE-Craft, aka Junichi Akutsu.
One of the few designs from F91 that I genuinely LIKE. I'd love an MG of this fucker.
>>15203125
It kinda is already. It's a SD G Generation original.
>>15205122
>he doesn't think F91 was full of great designs
Well, full is a strong word, actually not all that many what with being a lone movie but still. F91 had some good shit man, the Crossbone Vanguard suits retaining a nazi trooper visual while still being quite distinct from prior Zeon suits was grand.
>>15205122
It's a nice design, but all the decals feel excessive. I would hate to have to detail a model of that thing, and it must have been a nightmare for the animators to draw.
>>15199439
>>15199424
My favorite was Aesculpius. I loved the neo-Z'gok form, even if in Gundam form it was boring.
>>15199439
Is this 3 times faster than a regular leo?
>>15203125
That thing looks like it's from Xenogears.
>>15203125
Kazumi Fujita FTW
>>15202599
I do love some Asshimar.
>>15209877
Nigga, that's Junya Ishigaki.
>>15202551
THIS is Fujita Kazumi's.
>>15202599
i like it but without the flying pumpkin colors
>>15199646
>the HG can't even transform
fuck
>>15210003
You're out of your gourd.
>>15199397
what do you guys think about Grimoire
>>15202599
i prefer its pointier descendant.
>>15210056
That thing's well loved on /m/.
I think it's mostly mediocre, the head is some super kawaii stuff though
>>15210007
They were probably planning to do a separate HG Seravee II like with the HG Seraphim but then just said fuck it.
>>15209965
>Nigga, that's Junya Ishigaki.
I'm aware that MAHQ claims that Junya Ishigaki designed the Gundam Aquarius, but this is incorrect. It was designed by Kazumi Fujita.
(The Gundam Belphegor tat was designed by Ishigaki and is correctly identified as such on MAHQ).
If you want to check the veracity and reads moon, enter:
OZ-14MS 藤田一巳
into Google. Or just look at the Aquarius' lineart -- that's clearly Fujita, clearly not Ishigaki.
And yes, the Methuss Custom is indeed another Fujita design, although that drawing of it is not by him.
>>15210079
Kenki Fujioka's designs for AoZ are indeed spectacular, but they really don't look like they belong in Grypps Conflict-era UC. (And that's saying something, considering the dizzying number of mecha designers who contributed to Zeta Gundam.)
>>15209720
The dark grey one the twins used in TSR was nice.
>>15210092
>OZ-14MS 藤田一巳
Googled this, got nothing.
>Or just look at the Aquarius' lineart -- that's clearly Fujita, clearly not Ishigaki.
Wat. That looks much, much closer to Ishigaki's work on Xenogears than it does to Fujita's work on Quo Vadis 2.
As far as I know, ATMOS was the last Gundam related thing Fujita designed and that definitely looks like something he would draw for Browning, GunDriver or QV2.
>>15199977
It... kind of showed up in Destiny for half a second, didn't it? Even if they slapped an extra layer of armor around the cockpit and renamed it to Forbidden Vortex.
>>15210118
>Googled this, got nothing.
Try the moonrunes in jisho; the first two will get you Fujita and the latter Kazumi as name options. Nothing close to Ishigaki or Junya.
>>15210118
>Googled this, got nothing.
Googling for dummies
>>15210118
>As far as I know, ATMOS was the last Gundam related thing Fujita designed
Well now you know better
>and that definitely looks like something he would draw for Browning, GunDriver or QV2.
Compare the Aquarius to Fujita's rough draft works on Gaogaigar Final.
>>15199646
10 anniversary Bandai, c'mon... ;_;
>>15210267
>Compare the Aquarius to Fujita's rough draft works on Gaogaigar Final.
Don't think I have any of those, would be greatly appreciated if you could provide me with some.
BTW, here's an Ishigaki illustration I came across while trying to find more info on the Aquarius, featuring shading identical to that lineart.
>>15210298
That's not identical! And the B&W art of the Aquarius isn't shaded anyway.
Alright, I'm in bed right now, but tomorrow I'll post a few pics for reference.
It surprises me when people can't recognize a designer's style. I guess I must have an unusual knack for it. But I don't mean to sound obnoxious, though I probably do. Pardon me, please. Anyway, I'll post some pics tomorrow.
>>15210309
>tomorrow I'll post a few pics for reference.
A big thank you in advance. My Google-fu is not the best, but even considering that it feels like Fujita's art is more of a rarity than it has any right to be.
And I certainly wouldn't mind being proven wrong, I just can't help but feel skeptical since even knowing how incredibly diverse he is, it still feels like a drastic departure from what I know of him.
>>15199406
Everything from F91 is overlooked.
HGUC when, Bandai?
Am I the only one that thinks Mars Zeon had the best Zeon MS designs?
>>15211426
>It's a Gelgoog
>With a train whistle on its head
>>15211438
>>15210079
Technically these are predecessors, right? Since Advance of Z comes before Zeta in the timeline?
>>15210097
I'm just glad that the AoZ stuff is making it into the videogames and such, so hopefully we'll see real model kits soon enough.
>>15210340
OK, I'm back, I'll do the pics in a few.
Cool and fun to have a reasoned discussion with a fellow mecha designers afficionado. I love this stuff!
Meanwhile, note that while the pic you posted of the Dijeh SE-R is a design by Fujita, the specific drawing you posted is NOT by Fujita. It's by a fan artist whose art blog I've browsed occasionally. Pic related IS by Fujita.
Alright, off to find some pics!
>>15210056
I loved it the first time I saw it. G-Reco has some nice suits.
>>15211841
OK, here's a comparison pic. One can see they're drawn by different artists.
>It's in Battle Operation
>It looks like shit
Reeeee
>>15211901
Here are four pages of Gaogaigar Final rough designs by Kazumi Fujita.
>>15211934
Apologies for the crappy cellphone shots. My stupid scanner sucks cocks.
Anyway, if it would be helpful to post some Junya Ishigaki Xenogears lineart too, that'd be doable.
>>15211861
G-Reco had amazing suits, it's too bad the quality of the models was so low. At least that's one thing IBO has gotten right.
>>15210548
Holy shit that is right up my alley! Is that from victory, I need to watch Victory
>>15211964
The Shokew is the first mobile suit seen in the series due to the first four epsiodes being out of order to let the Victory Gundam appear in the first episode. Hope you like bug suits, cause Zanscare sure does.
>>15211964
People give too much shit to Victory because of wheels but the Zanscare suits are fucking great.
>>15210056
>>15210085
>That thing's well loved on /m/.
>I think it's mostly mediocre, the head is some super kawaii stuff though
Precisely. The design is solid but unremarkable (which is a very good choice for a grunt unit) yet is distinctly accented by the pot belly, cute clam of a face, and deft color scheme. Fucking fantastic design.
>>15212002
I've must have been the only one who saw a skull instead of something cute.
>>15211980
A few of the Zanscare suits blow, like the Tomliatt -- but hey, it was drawn by Kunio Okawara rather than Junya Ishigaki, so what else would one expect?
>>15212013
No, I get what you're saying. It does indeed look scary, I see a skull too... But from certain angles it can look cute. I mean, cute in the same way the Scopedog is cute. Or the way a potato is cute.
>>15199397
Would it be wrong to say the Airmaster is overlooked and usually in the shadow of its upgrade? See this a lot with the X Gundams, Gundam X looks better than DX, Airmaster better than Burst, Leopard better than Leopard Destroy.
I feel like the Zaku I/Gavane's Borjarnon gets overlooked in favor of the II and later models a lot, but it has a certain charm to it in its simplicity.
>>15212061
Nah, I'd say the Airmaster is fairly crappy and the Airmaster Burst is even crappier. And while both the Leopard and the Leopard Destroy are somewhat crappy, the Destroy is the less crappy of the two.
>>15212082
Agreed, but it is fundamentally odd that the Zaku II has all those external hoses, while the Zaku I doesn't. Logically, you'd expect it to be the other way around. I mean, I understand the reasoning in-universe, and I understand the aesthetic context... It's just that, from a functional perspective, the external hoses seem more like an "issue to be resolved," and a lack of external hoses to represent the refinement/improvement of the design.
Everything looks better with a titans color scheme and beam weapons
>>15199457
>>15199406
>>15199579
>>15199635
>>15200172
>>15210525
>>15210548
>>15212017
My BROTHERS. I ran out of all of my first options. Late UC kits never.
>>15211426
Mars Zeon is the most overlooked aspect of UC
>>15213128
Sharyl Rochester's Gelgoog is pretty sweet
I feel no one appreciates the GM II as much as every other grunt MS or GM variant.
My favorite in Unicorn.
>>15211975
I fucking LOVE bug suits. I'm making 2017 the year I finally watch Victory.
Also the Recten is one of my favorite MS, guaranteed to make me smile if I see it. The Recksnow is actually a grunt unit rather than a construction MS but it doesn't carry the same charm. I'm really sad there is literally no merchandise of the Recten. Not a single thing :(
>>15213223
No idea why it's romanized "Schuzrum" Galluss when the katakana clearly reads STURM Gallus.
>>15211426
I didn't even know about Mars Zeon, just quickly looked up the RF MS and wow I'm actually kind of impressed, these are good reinterpretations of those staple Zeon MS.
Also this has been a good thread
>>15213224
"Are those some waldoes in your pocket or are you just happy to see mOH MY GOD!!!!"
>>15213128
To be fair they're the last, final holdouts for a movement whose remnants died ages ago. They launched a giant rock from Mars at the Earth and later tried to invade the planet, and both times they got stomped. Aside from updating the standard Zeon mobile suits to pre-F91 era tech, they're about as notable as the Zeon holdouts that attacked Judau in ZZ in the desert.
Everything and everyone was moving on to newer and better things, and Mars Zeon just wasn't.
>>15213223
...was there some earlier televised version of this before Unicorn?
>>15213278
Yup. In case it wasn't obvious by now, Katoki is a tremendous hack.
>>15213301
Wrong. He's a tremendously gifted mecha designer whose redesigns and modifications of pre-existing MSs are almost as fantastic as his original designs.
But yeah, the Sturm Galuss is a variant of the Galuss-J from ZZ.
I really like the Pescatore. Its name, its look, even its armor material (Zoggnium.)
>>15213333
Kinda weird that it doesn't have a backpack. Riding on someone else's ms is cool, but inefficient.
Nobody cares for the latest GM.
>>15211901
>>15211934
>>15211940
Darnit, what happened to the dude I was talking to about the Gundam Aquarius and Fujita? Poop.
>>15214828
I like the Javelin. Way cooler than the Jamesgun, that's for sure. I'd love to see both of them (and the GunEZ) Kaotkified...
I'm also partial to the RMS-014 Octape ("Oct-Ape" = "October" (10) & April (4))
>AGE is shit
>most of the mecha designs are top notch
IT'S NOT FAIR!
I love the Zolo because it looks cool and turns into an helicopter instead of the usual plane. The beam rotor is such an unique concept, way better at showing how advanced beam technology becomes in UC than the silly sails from F91.
>>15214897
What's not fair is the Farsia getting a kit but not the Khronos, especially when the head and torso come from the Zeydra.
>>15214897
I want to sexually pilot Farsia!
>>15214915
Why are Vagan suits so good looking? They're some of my favorite non-UC gundam mooks that are actually pretty badass and intimidating
>>15214897
Fawn Farsia is also good
>>15214915
Oh it did get a kit...
Black Joker from G Gundam was bretty gud.
muh super dias
MSS-008 Le Cygne
bitch nigga puh-lease
>>15213514
Its like the Zock knocked up a hygogg.
>>15211901
>>15211934
>>15214878
Ah, sorry for the late reply. Was not in the best of moods yesterday so I decided avoiding the internet altogether was best for me.
And wow, those drafts for the GGG mecha look way better than what we actually got in the show, the top left of the bottom left page being my favorite of the bunch. Damned sponsors.
And to your expectations, I do see the similarities in style between GGG and the Aquarius! That sneaky Fujita really does know how to adapt well to a series' aesthetic when he needs to~ (God do I ever miss him...) Thanks again for providing me with the scans!
Infinitely better than all the other Phoenix gundam variants.
>>15216458
Happy to be of service, bro. And yeah man, I miss him too. I'd love to interview him... [sigh]
is mobile armor okay?
The Gilgazamune was named and designed after the NHK Taiga Drama "Dokuganryū Masamune", hence why Giganos suddenly pulled out a big Samurai robot
>>15219161
>Giganos suddenly pulled out a big Samurai robot
yeah, that struck me as rather dissonant at the time
>>15216499
Sure is Xenogears in here.
>>15199970
they had that beam rifle ever since they were thought up in 08 MS Team
Gundam Mk-II V-1 and V-2
They'll always be forgotten since they came from a forgotten manga series by kondo
>>15219318
No, they didn't always had that beam rifle. They're not even the same weapon, other than the barrels having the MG42-style aesthetic. You're thinking of the Gelgoog Jager's beam machine gun from 0080. The one he's talking about is the Zaku Sniper's beam sniper rifle, which was invented by Katoki in 2006.
I sure wish the Re-GZ Custom would show up in SOMETHING
>>15203125
A lot of SD Gundam MSV from that era look like they're from some other series.
>>15219418
As long as they get rid of the fucking AK. I've always been kind of annoyed at the regular-guns-but-scaled-up thing and the two biggest offenders are Re-GZ Custom and basically anything from Unicorn.
>>15199397
I feel like I'm the only one who cares about the BuCUE line.
I'd love to see this magnificent bastard make a comeback in some capacity, even if just a mention. I miss my PS2...
>>15211910
Damn, this is a cool variant of the Gyan, or suit inspired by it or whatever. The + -shaped eye tracks outlined in gold fit really well with a 'royal guard' look, and the crest makes the "helmet" look less spindly and goofy. I kinda miss the characteristic beam sword the Gyan had, but the lance-beam-rifle is a neat gimmick, and the emblem makes the shield stand out more.
And the fact that I'm Canadian has nothing to do with why I like it.
>>15226226
>X has suits called "Daughtress", "Bertigo", and "Balient"
>Instead of calling them "Dauntless", "Vertigo", and "Valiant"
for what reason?
>>15226412
Japan has problems with pronouncing certain sounds in English words. Sunrise/Bandai just go ahead and spell them that way because it makes it easier for the Japanese fans to remember and pronounce them.
>>15226412
Daughtress and Dauntless aren't even the same, there's no fucking N in Daughtress
Learn to read before you start critiquing
>>15226633
Just post a gunpla box, aspie.
Anyway, the only big clusterfuck in GP-01Fb.
>>15215327
my nigga I love that beautiful swan
>>15214828
Not true! I love all GMs!
>>15219418
Showed up in SDGO. So of course that died a while ago.
>>15226689
This isn't like they romaji'd up a word, you're literally adding a letter to make it sound like you want it to