Gundam: G no Reconguista

>>15144899
because he's a Tomino show

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>>15144899
Looks like it's that time of the week again.

>>15144899
Because Tomino wankers

>>15144899
it's a good show 6,65/10

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>>15144899
I want to Su Cordo with Bellri

>>15145784
>Bellri
best girl

>>15145784
why isnt there more lewd art of him, he is a fem boi after all, what the fuck?

>>15144899
Because it fits your shitposting agenda to suggest that it's thought of as being so, when you know damn well that opinion is heavily divided.

You stupid fucking asshole.

Tomino is a genius and one of the great artists of the 21st and 20th century.

>When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.

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>>15145787
right?

>>15145800
I've no idea

>>15144899
Because you are the false flagger.

>>15144899
>G-Reco 2nd Season
When?

>>15145999
Never

>>15144899
Because everyone who saw it wonders what it's about because the pacing is so hectic it befuddles anyone who dares gaze upon it

>>15145832
I liked this pic

What's with this reverse shitposting? Everyone knows that G-Reco is terrible.

Is this the same thing with /tv/ pretending that BvS is good?

>>15147069
Respect the opinions of others and don't put down or criticize others' comments.

>>15144899
Do we know the reason why this show didn't get 50 episodes? Tomino was looking in full form besides the awful pacing.

>>15147139
He said he's too old for that. I guess he's a control-freak who needs to be on top of everything, and he can't anymore.

>>15147110
ok shit eater. this is why we have shit like g rectum

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Remember Noredo won the Bellri bowl

>>15147579
Noredo is my favourite gundam waifu

>>15147110
You can always go to reddit if you want a safespace.

>>15147069
>Everyone knows that G-Reco is great
ftfy ANN

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>>15147579
how big is her kunatala cock?

>>15145815
THIS

>>15144899
A small group of people have convinced themselves that it's deeper than it really is and that the fact that they like it is evidence that they're smarter than everyone else. Since they're drawing self-esteem from this delusion, they refuse to consider the amount of inference they've based their interpretation of the show on.

Simply put, if you were as smart as they are you'd have the same headcanon they do.

>>15145815
>>15145985
>>15146356
>>15147069
>>15147110
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>>15148562
Why do you keep samefagging, OP?

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>>15148765

>>15147139
>Tomino was looking in full form besides the awful pacing.
By now he has become old and tired.

I'm 15 episodes in and still enjoying it. 2nd OP kind of bites tho. Not that the 1st one was great either. Was the series so low budget they had to use clipshow style intros?

>>15144899
I liked the G-Self (decent g-self model never ever :c), and a lot of the other mobile suit designs.
But that's it. I watched the whole thing but honestly I can't even remember anything besides the kinda cool designs and Bellri not fucking his sister

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>>15148890
>going to /b/
Anon we need to talk

>>15149113
Rumor has it that Tomino used the bugdet of the openings for the show itself, since he was mad at sunrise for not letting him use Gの閃光 as the opening, but that's it, just a rumor

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Aida and Bellri

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>>15150699
>just bellri is superior

>>15144899
I need to watch g reco soon to understand why so many people shit on it and dismiss it as a gundam series

>>15150959
get out

this is a shitposters only thread

>>15144899
OP G-Reco is full of life, laughs easily and has a sense of irony.

>>15150949
I like it

>>15150949
Why is Bellri so sexy?

>>15151578
fembois are god-tier

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>>15148890
You can't fool me, /b/tard, I have the original right here.

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>>15151578
not for lewdz

he is a pure and genki otouto

>>15152632
delete this
that's pretty gay

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>>15152903
what are you going to do about it? Fire warning shots at me?

>>15144899
Please stop making this fucking thread

>>15153246
Please gundamrager get out

>>15144899
This show was a shit, 0.5/10

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best mech action

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>>15155231
RIP Rattle Python

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>>15147579
>tfw you think Noredo will be shit
>tfw she turns out to be the best in the series

>>15144899

Because it's set in the same timeline as the Universal Century?

>>15156631
It's like when your fucking a nigger deep down they're all pink inside

deep down all gundam is UC

>>15156631
he's a Tomino show

>>15144899

Well, I haven't watched it yet, but I do enjoy some of the machine designs in it.

Only thing I know about it in detail is that apparently the "American Army" (really, who are they trying to fool?) is building and sending junk into battle that falls apart in the middle of a fight.

>>15144899
its fucking garbage, its only value is to appreciate the pretty bones girls and laugh at the pure incompetence of the writing. G-reco fags are the dumbest mutha fuckers ever.

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>>15156727
butthurt boko haram detected

>>15156905

>butthurt boko haram detected

Eh?

>>15144899
G-Reco is 10/10

/m/ knows nothing about mecha.

>>15156907
ITS 'NANI?!'

YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE

>>15156994

I don't understand.

>>15157011
STFU you baka

>>15144899

Did it have the best spacesuit design?

>>15157568
yeah

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>>15157568
I like the Sidonia suits better

>>15144899

At least it's not hard on Women like Victory Gundam is.

>>15157595
>Sidonia suits
i like them too.

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best show

>>15160853
good taste anon

>>15144899
We need more mecha shows like this and we need speed.

>>15161583
I just want more Bellri

And hecate and moran kits

>>15161705
>And hecate and moran kits
Yeah, G-Reco had some beautiful mech designs.

>>15144899
When can we expect news for the new movie?

>>15162197
there is no movie. G-Reco is playing in movie theatres

>>15162198
Wrong again retard

>>15144899
So why do people hate this show?

>>15162745
Different strokes for different folks i guess

>>15162793
They thought tomino would make og uc type gundam but got this instead.

>>15162745

Honestly with this show there is so much memes and shitposting it's hard to seperate people who actually dislike the show, and people who are just bashing it since they feel they are expected to on /m/.

Are the complaints about the dialog becuase they beel the dialog is legitimately bad, or is it becuase /m/ expects you to go
>LOL TOMINO CAN'T WRITE DIALOG
24/7 since that what /m/ has done for years?

Are people legitimately confused by the plot, or are they saying that since /m/ has said for years that Tomino can't write?

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I like the Mechs

>>15162814
>LOL TOMINO CAN'T WRITE DIALOG
Holy shit, they continue to use this stupid meme in every gundam show written by Tomino.

>>15162796
>They thought tomino would make og uc type gundam
Something he hasn't done in years.

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While greco being deep has become a shitposting meme, I actually think it does have more depth than most shows in a while. But not in a "oh such intelligent discourse" way but that the world is actually well built and thought out.

While not perfect in the regard the series is full of shandification. Take those water balls Bellri uses in an early episode, bit pointless and weird really. But then you find out the ship was built for space and they faked a decommission of it. For a spaceship being able to store masses of water in compact space makes sense, and later we do see Manny one Aida to drink. It is small but the show is full of that kind of thing, which is partly why it's themes and characters resonate so well.

>>15163734
>While greco being deep has become a shitposting meme, I actually think it does have more depth than most shows in a while
Reco actually is the show with the most substance in forever. We could spend hours talking about the amount of stuff Tomino put in the show.

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>>15163900
Which is what makes it so interesting. You see people try to drain any little drip out of a show just to show the main plot has some level of substance, but greco you can pick some random detail like the Gaeon's colour scheme is Amuro's custom colours (and looking a bit h-nu anyway) cause they are UC fanboys obsessed with the past. Which in turn fits with their actions coming from judging those on actions in the past, when part of the main theme of the show is how bad that can be.

The series isn't perfect on this stuff, but so many points are well formed that it makes such a simple element plays in well to into what the characters are and what they represent. A think a lot of shows make the mistake of adding some superficial layer of complexity by bringing up some philosophy or concept to seem deep without really weaving it into the show. While simple hints that flow into the main points being made are used so sparingly or not at all. Greco uses a lot of simple techniques but it constantly does it and uses them to full effect.

>>15164003
>no scratch and sniff 4chan

fuck you to Hiroyuki

>cool mech designs
Check
>good cgi
Check
>cool character designs
Check
>funny
Check
>good characterds
Check

What I gather from the first two comments is they just come here to complain for no reason.

>>15164003
>amuro's custom colors

What? His custom colors are Black and white or purple and white. The Gaeon is gray and fuschia

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Victory vs G-Reco

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>>15165318
millions dead

>>15165357
BKUB BELLR IS QT! QTTTTTT!

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>>15163734

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>>15144899
This show is much underrated.

I still want to know what do Gondwan or Izanel's MS/MA look like.
We do get to see Gondwan's ship though, but I thirst for more.

>>15166097
it looks like the Titanic

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>>15166106
this one?

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>>15165995
Nug is a cute.

Best Gundam girl in years.

>>15166119
Yes.

>>15166121
Noredo and Bellri love story
When?

>>15166144
Sorry, Bellri x Mt. Fuji OTP

>>15164003
>A think a lot of shows make the mistake of adding some superficial layer of complexity by bringing up some philosophy or concept to seem deep without really weaving it into the show
This is not a mistake, this is a deliberate act to cover the fact that their show have no substance, also they know that they can get away with it because the average anime viewer is an idiot that will eat up anything that sounds cool.

Why do you think IBO is shitting up all those flashbacks about irrelevant characters that do nothing of interest and aren't worth talking about in the first place?

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>>15166121
FAT

>>15162814
Protip: you can fully understand something and still think the writing is garbage.

>>15166292
that's show is pretty funny

>>15147069
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean that its bad.

>>15166266
The thing I really liked about G-Reco was it felt like it was set in it's own world. It's kinda hard to explain, but it feels less fake than some other shows out there. Usually we see stuff we are familiar with in the story, like Shinn's sister's cell in Destiny, and at times it doesn't fit. Like the aforementioned cell, that style fell out of fashion years ago irl but they're still using them in the CE future because the audience recognizes what they are. Or you'll get infodumps on what should be common knowledge in the setting.

G-Reco was kinda refreshing in that regard, like traveling to a country that you don't know much about the culture. Some things may seem weird to you as a visitor, but to the people who live there it's natural. And if you're something of a history geek like I am, how alien it can be makes it feel futuristic like how our culture and language would seem alien to people who lived centuries ago. It and figuring out just what the hell is happening really helped with the sense of adventure the show has going on.

>>15166292
Noredo is not fat

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>>15167106
>Usually we see stuff we are familiar with in the story
The thing is greco does do they worked so each part existing makes sense and looks like it fits in the world.

Like a lot of even non UC shows have haros, which is weird and obviously just cause people know haro when really haro should advanced like any robot. So greco instead gives us a harobe. But then most shows forget that vernier on pilot suits make a load of sense, but they aren't something marketable so whatever. While greco goes not only do they make sense give them little grappling hooks as well.

Greco isn't free of it, but aspects aren't just added with no thought.

>>15165357
At least in G-Recp when characters die, they will stay dead.

>>15167106
>The thing I really liked about G-Reco was it felt like it was set in it's own world. It's kinda hard to explain, but it feels less fake than some other shows out there
Because Tomino is a scifi freak that puts a lot of attention in the details? Most of the scifi that comes out of Japan isn't interested in anything but looking cool.

>>15167991
>Because Tomino is a scifi freak that puts a lot of attention in the details?
I don't think this is only limited to Tomino.

It's a thing that a lot of the older anime industry people do, Myazaki, Nagano, Anno, Kawamori, etc.

I think this happens because they didn't grow up watching anime and often were inspired by western works.
This lead to them learning how to create actual realistic and unique worlds.

Say what you will about the quality of these guys' works, but you can't deny that they're all very good when it comes to worldbuilding and atmosphere.

Nowadays most people in the anime industry only grew up watching anime, so they just copy elements from there.
there aren't many who try and take inspiration from elsewhere,.

But those that do are exceptional,Tsutomu Nihei is an example of one who's excelled at this in all of his work.
He's able to construct original worlds that rarely borrow contemporary elements, and even when they do they're abstracted to some degree.

>>15168770
>the solution is to rip off a wider variety of shit like they used to
I wish this wasn't the right answer.

>>15168798
Well to be fair that's what all art is.

People mix inspiration from other people's works with stuff they've witnessed in real life.

If I asked you right now to write an original mecha premise would you be able to guarantee that it wasn't inspired by anything else in any way whether it be consciously or not?

I like it a lot.
Could have done with more episodes though.

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Someone knows who is the original author of this image here? It is probably one the most random pieces of fanart I have ever seen.

>>15168867
But Turn-A was a shit

>>15156324
It therefore puts a significant responsibility on border authorities to improve their controls.

>>15169630
seriously, stop.

>>15162745
>So why do people hate this show?
Because he's good

>>15144899
Because it's so fucking bad that it's a wonder it was okayed.

G-Reco's greatest problem was the fast pace.

>>15169956
Sup ANN

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>>15167740
>Do you think that man would anything to us?
Yeah

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>>15147069

>>15144899
movie when?

>>15170732
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-11-16/animator-gundam-reconguista-in-g-to-play-in-movie-theaters-in-2017/.108870

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>>15170909
These types always really confuse me, they get every aspect and can list them but the go "but nothing makes sense."

It is like they are expecting some bigger reveal and monologue that turns everything on it's head. No that isn't how stories have to be, doing that is generally because they have fuck all idea what to do with the story. Aida and Bellri are just related which changes the dynamic of their relationship, how they feel about events and their actions after. That doesn't have to be anything more

>Raraiay is a much better and useful character after she gets her memory back
I think she blew up like one spaceship, with help from noredo. As a character she really doesn't add much after her memory back

>>15168798
There's nothing wrong with finding inspiration in a broad variety of mediums.

Today, they're just running in circle inside a dry well.

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G-Reco will become a revered cult classic in a few years when everyone finally realizes it's Turn A Gundam 2.0

>>15166292
Poor Nobel was abused.

Also tfw you realize she got it from Bellris and named it after her and him.

>>15171116
>As a character she really doesn't add much after her memory back
This. So this. Her gimmick was she was the cute wacky brain-damaged girl, her characterization was entirely in being blissfully ignorant. Once she gets her intellect back, she has nothing to define her and pretty much disappears into the background. If they'd held that off until closer to the end she'd have been the token dopey character whose final gag is being turned smart, or the mute character that suddenly speaks.

>>15171116
>As a character she really doesn't add much after her memory back
this is not true, because she adds the much to comic relief the show.

>>15172091
I really liked how she was more professional once she came around, only to have two guys fight over for her affections. Plus she got her own Gundam. Not a hand-me-down or a Gundam INO, her own Gundam.

>>15172134
i agree with you

>>15144899
Because it baffles the average person why anyone would make it.

>>15171788
How long did it take for Turn A to be appreciated?

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>>15171796
>named it after her and him

This just makes the mt fuji end even more hilarious.

>>15172721
Twenty long years

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Please stop laughing at Raraiya

>>15162745
G-Reco is the most interesting Gundam series I've seen in a long time. Its world is really mysterious and makes me want to find out more. It could always take a turn for the worse but so far I'm loving it despite its crazy fast pace.

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>>15172721
Turn A is never appreciated. It's only "appreciated" by those so-called Tomino-fags, self proclaimed genuine Gundam fans and hipsters who don't want to be called normies.

Turn A is one of the worse entry in the franchise. Even nips don't like it.

>Seed Destiny and IBO are much better and is loved in Japan and overseas.

>>15173243
I liked Turn A despite not being a Tomino fag. That said, I do agree to a certain extent with newfags liking Turn A for not wanting to be called normies. I've seen them saying something about "having matured taste" or some shit like that while shitting on other series like 00 calling them childish. It's also apparently favored by blacks and its pretty obvious because of Loran.

>>15173387
Tomino even acknowledges that this is something new. He said that for people who were fans of the franchise from 30 years ago, they'll have their feet swept from underneath them, because while this isn't a slice of life, it's certainly not a simple war story. He explains it as Bellri and Aida's adventure story and not a simple "after this bad guy, a new one comes." That being said, though, the biggest reason for hate probably is people just not being able to get into Tomino's way of making anime anymore. And I know people hate that "excuse," but it's true. He'll slip in dialogue with very vital information like it's nothing. He doesn't add over-the-top fanfare when other directors would. His style has never really changed, but it really has been a while since we've had this type of screenwriting. And when people don't understand what's being presented to them, they hate it. And once people decide that they hate it...it's gone. If people just understood everything that happened, they wouldn't hate it so much.

>>15173387
Nah, black people like Wing.

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>>15172979

>>15173633
Aida a shit

>>15173446
>That being said, though, the biggest reason for hate probably is people just not being able to get into Tomino's way of making anime anymore
My guess is that modern, younger audience grew up with the likes of SEED and other stupid shit. Doesn't really help one grow a wide comfort zone.

>>15173604
black people like 00/gbf now where the hell have you been

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Who else wants to fuss with her hair?

>>15173804
As opposed to the G-Recofags who grew up with Evangelion.

>>15173604
From what I've seen and heard, most black people prefer G Gundam and Turn A. They seem to take issue with 00 or Wing because it's not straight goofy cliche or DEEP enough for them. Take IBO for instance, the superficial gritty and DEEP tone is enough for them to eat that shit up alongside Build Fighters Try, which is on the opposite in that it's straight comedy cliche. The Middle shows like Wing, 00 and Build Fighters are seen as too childish because they like to mix it up. It's also apparent in G-Reco where it doesn't try to be deep or straight goof.

>>15175329
I'm black and I like G,G Reco and Wing.00 was okay but I was never a huge fan.I still can't decide if I like IBO or not.

>>15175329
It's not because Try is comedy, it's because it's hotblooded and crazy as fuck, much like G Gundam

>>15173954
but 00 was awesome

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Good cgi

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Babies with moon midgtets.
Yea or Nay?

>>15176270
So Venus Globe residents are essentially space elves?
Outside of 200 year old Koyasu, how old are the GIT Lab guys?

>>15167106
>>15163734
Pretty much. I love the ride, I love that sense of adventure. I like that it really made me, as the viewer, really 'absorb' what it's like in their world. The little things, the little seemingly inane actions that the characters do, they all add to this 'verse' that feels so real.

>>15168770
>Miyazaki
He may be a cranky old dude who seems to hate everything, but the guy really knows how to create an ambience for his works. It's really quite jarring that some people seem to be trying to push Shinkai as the next Miyazaki because Shinkai's works, while pretty and good looking, just lack that atmosphere Miyazaki's works have that make the fictional world feels larger than life.

>Tsutomu Nihei
Yeah, he's another good example of immersive world-building. Minimal exposition about the setting and just chuck you in to let you experience what it's really like in the world he created. Even Sidonia, which the purists fans like to shit on for being a haremshit, is filled with little moments here and there that helps to create depth for the world they live in - something that the typical fantasy harem most definitely do not have.

>>15176096
The Bifron and the Neodu are the two lame mecha in a show made of nothing but 10/10 mechfus.

The Yggdrasil and G-Lucifer are so much better.

>>15176096
I like how the neodu has a gundam chin

>>15177418
I like how they painted one of the MS like it was a Char-custom only to had it off to a guy who looks kinda like Garma. The fact it looks pretty Zanscare is a bonus.

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>>15177763
nigga even shot/cut down a plane

>>15177808
This guy was pretty annoying

>>15177883
Kerbes plz

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>>15177808
As much I like this image, it is not strange that he is upside down and his hair is not falling?

>>15177883
I liked his character, even if he didn't have done much. It's even more funny because of his chara design that made many people thought that he was some kind of trickster and could have his own agenda, but nope, he was just a goof conscript with a "I couldn't care less" attitude.

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>>15178021
top floof

>>15177808
> Gets Char-custom paint job
> Takes out a plane.
> Lusts after a brown-skinned girl

Wow.

>>15176096
i like how the pink thing is just a single static frame and after being deflected by it the green thing turns into a single static frame that shrinks
truly astounding animation truly

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>>15178239
can you blame him?

>>15144899
Too bad this show had to suck, it was easier for me to get into :/.

>>15155231
>>15160853
are those cgi Mechs or is it just everything else that moves?

>>15178275
>can you blame him?
yeah

>>15170540
I liked this scene

>>15176096
Real avant garde of Tomino to have the animators use dried human feces to draw the edges with.

>>15178021
He's obviously in zero G.

>>15178264
People laughed when IBO did it but for some reason it always looks Toei tier when IBO is in charge.

>>15179093
Come on.

>>15179999
Any slapping scene.

>>15144899
It's one of the few shows where everyone is likeable, including the villains.

>>15162851
This is the only backpack I didn't like in this show.

>>15180451
>People laughed when IBO did it but for some reason it always looks Toei tier when IBO is in charge.
The old man have more experience in making those bits less noticeable while focusing time and resources in more important scenes. That is what a guy gains after working decades in this vital industry of the mecha anime.

In that scene, when they use the static frames, moviment is not needed, and in the case of the green thing, when it is shrinking, for like two seconds, the screen is full of objects in motion, like the rolling background, the balloon and the Moran coming for the rescue, making it difficult to notice.

Compare it with IBO infamous scene of the static Barbatos approaching to attack, that is the only example that I can think from the top of my head: Is a static figure occupying the center of the screen while growing to simulate the approach into the viewer direction, and slightly turning his angle. Add to this that Irc the background is totally black, putting more focus on Barbatos.The use of static frame is easily perceptible.

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Aida Federer

>>15181628
God-Tier Waifu

>>15181628
muh gawd

I'm kinda hesitate a bit to jump into G-reco, although i think the MS design and animation is pretty smooth. How's the characters go so far? The one thing I can't stand from Gundam anime is the annoying, badly written? Characters, overtly emotional MC, and things like that. I'm afraid G-reco will have similar stereotype, but hopefully not. Currently I'm watching Turn A and I love that most of the characters are likeable people or at least I can understand their characteristics well.

>>15183634
It's really hard to say considering the discussion about G-Reco has been all over the place. On one hand you can say it's a clusterfuck of writing that is paced too fast with characters that act erratic, resulting in a story that can be really hard for people to follow and should have been decompressed into 50 episodes. Other people the big thing about the show is it makes sense if you can pick up on the details. It never really goes out of it's way to explain this future setting, characters just live in it and the events that take place, but there is enough information scattered around the series that the audience can fill in the blanks rather than going along with some narrative.

>>15173446
>the biggest reason for hate probably is people just not being able to get into Tomino's way of making anime anymore.

It's more like Greco was too much unfiltered Tomino, way more than past works. You need a balance between conventional storytelling and Tomino-isms. You need something to dilute all his crazyness otherwise you get Greco.

>>15144899
Because it was made by the best people in the anime industry..

>>15183723
The difference between a trainwreck and G-Reco is that some people actually give G-Reco a chance.

>>15168925
It's a KLK reference.
Have you been living under a rock?

>>15183851
KLK and Mad Max Fury Road, I watched both. I know where the references are from, I just thought it was random because I never imagined that someone would mix GReco, Mad Max and KLK together in the same image.

>>15183819
>It's more like Greco was too much unfiltered Tomino, way more than past works
Compared to stuff like Brain Powered and Wings of Rean? Hardly.

>>15183846
Well yeah because with a trainwreck you can already sense what went wrong and why the show went that path with a show like G-Reco there's more of an intention behind the madness that a lot of people won't appreciate.

>>15170727
cute

>>15175158
evangelion isn't deep as g-reco is

>>15183880
No, it's fundamentally the difference between refusing to acknowledge anything from frame 1 onward vs actually giving it a chance.

The whole notion of "trainwreck" is flawed, it's an attempt to forcibly apply the narrative that something is stupid and not worth paying attention to so as to be able to write off any event that makes sense when you pay attention and connect the dots as being poorly written and never having made sense to begin with, shifting the blame from the viewer to the staff.

Bad writing is bad writing, but a trainwreck always starts with a viewer deciding to misunderstand as much of the material as possible, and then go on to assert that their experience was the correct and intended one to begin with: "I didn't care, so obviously the staff didn't care either, and you're making up shit if you dare to suggest otherwise!"

>>15144899
I will like it would have been better if it is was something closer to around 39 episodes instead of 26. The ending was rushed and needed to be flushed out.

>>15183905
*I feel like it would have been better if it is was something closer to around 39 episodes instead of 26. The ending was rushed and needed to be flushed out

>>15183875
>generic meme
get out

Just the music and the mech designs alone make it worth watching. Story development semed too messy, but I thought the same first time I watched CCA which I now believe is the best Gundam anime ever, so maybe a rewatch is due.

>>15183915
100% agree.

>>15184598
>I watched CCA which I now believe is the best Gundam anime ever, so maybe a rewatch is due.
CCA is a gabarge

>>15183905
>>15183915
The ending was fine, the towasanga arc was rushed.

>>15185713
>The ending was fine.
I totally disagree, The ending was quite stupid and bland

The writing in all Gundam shows range from mediocre to downright bad. A lot of them aren't even entertaining and put me to sleep if I'm not paying enough attention.

So it's no surprise that G Reco was another one of these generic Tomino anime that we've seen several times already coming from him.

By that same token, IBO is pretty bad too so it's not like I prefer one or the other. Sunrise should just stop producing Gundam shows, because it's pretty clear Gundam is preventing them from doing anything else that's actually interesting. It's been more than 3 decades since the original. It's time to put it to sleep.

In fact, Sunrise should just stop making mecha altogether, or at least hire better directors and writers. Maybe someone abroad can help, because it's rather clear that nips don't have world experience and therefore shouldn't attempt to write shows about it.

>>15186492
>Gundam is the problem
>not idolshit
Are you a new user?

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>>15186528
I want Bellri to be my problem

>>15186528
Idolshit is not trying to be more than what it is, so it's just entertainment for the dumb masses.

Gundam tries to be more than just that, and it fails hard at it.

>>15186492
>Gundam is the reason Sunrise doesn't make interesting shows anymore

Surely you mean that SEED success proved to Sunrise that quality and talent aren't needed to get big numbers.

>>15187099
No I mean that Sunrise could be doing more interesting shows if they weren't making shitty war "dramas"

too bad nips don't know any better

>>15144899
why did g-reco only get 1 season

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>>15187190
Tomino said he was too old to do more than 26 episodes, working on a show is draining even for younger directors

>>15187235
And yet he said the reason the pacing sucked was because he wasn't allowed to write a full 50 episode series.

>>15183870
Love how you compare it to his worst shows it kinda proves my point.

>>15187292
>his worst shows
Then i would have used ZZ and Victory Gundam

>>15186528
Not that guy but I kinda agree with him, I'm a long time fan but one of my biggest gripes is that Gundam often pushes ostentatious idealistic speeches with blaring musical pieces to rope you into completely bullshit nonsensical politics that are almost never explained. Half the time no one is really saying anything very prolific or moving, more or less they just state the obvious to a soundtrack.

This is then followed by some autistic kid in a giant toy(every new iteration is called more realistic than the last by fans)curb stomping the military. It's pretty fucking weird once you start looking at it critically and its gotten to the point where its starting to outnumber the shows that don't do this.
Meanwhile, idolshit is almost never more than just being idolshit. Corporate, clean, cash grabbing garbage and you know it from the very beginning.

>>15187235
why is she so sexual? why are all the girls so sexual?

>>15186492
>The writing in all Gundam shows range from mediocre to downright bad.
That might be true for most. But all? No. If you really think that I'm curious what anime you like, especially that which pertain to this board.

>>15188141
Fap material and fanservice

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>>15188141
>>15188367
Back when G-Reco first aired I expressed my impatience at there not being any fappable art of Nug yet and some anon posted this screencap for me saying that it wasn't much but it was what he was using. I never fapped to it because I wasn't that desperate but I've always kept it because I thought that was a really kind thing to do for me. Thanks guy.

>>15188450
i agree with you

I actually like G Reco, it's charming and the character and mobile suit designs are so unique in a good way. The narrative style is a breath of fresh air. Sure it's paced weirdly and it requires either sharp memory or a rewatch or two of past eps but it's not terribly bad like some people say it is. It might not be for everyone, but I sure like it.

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Things that are good about G-Reco:
>Art/Animation
>World Building
>Character design


Things that are god awful in G-Reco
>Script
>Pacing
>Plot and story that ultimately lead nowhere

So basically the split is like this; If you like G-Reco, you are a type-B Otaku. If you didn't like it, you are a type A-Otaku.

>>15189637
>Things that are god awful in G-Reco
>Script
>Pacing
>Plot and story that ultimately lead nowhere
Found the retard

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>>15189637
but the journey ultimately leads to more journeying except this time Bellri is free from the dogma and sins of past generations, and is now free to go on a journey that is absolutely his own

He is going to get so many women pregnant

>>15189637
>Plot and story that ultimately lead nowhere
Retard.

I'm personally gonna wait until it's done to watch it all the way through, but I did watch the first couple episodes, and if felt like it was from the 90s, so I'm a little pessimistic. I do like the design of the G-Self, but it's more cute than menacing to me.

>>15189637
Why do you think that the plot and story went nowhere?

The plot and story were about Belri and his allies stopping a warmonger from manipulating several factions into starting a war.

>>15190542
>I'm personally gonna wait until it's done to watch it all the way through

It's been done for going on two years now.

>>15190559
It really makes sense when you think about it. Ultimately, the war accomplished nothing. All the problems and issues that caused the various sides to take up arms are still there, only thing that really happened was a bunch of warmongers were taken out. The show even goes so far as to put Klim Nick's dad trying to rally up the populace again after it ended.

So ultimately the war solved nothing itself. Meanwhile, Aida and the Megafauna have been all over the system. They've met with various parties and learned why the war happened in the first place, they realize that everyone had a reason to fight. Now together with her crew assembled from various factions, Aida has assumed an actual leadership position in order to try and create a lasting peace through diplomacy. She understands each side after being exposed to so many differing viewpoints and she managed to do it without Newtype abilities.

Nobody was willing to talk to one another, they just assumed moral superiority while ramping up the war. Aida is going to change that, and she's going to do that not as a powerful MS pilot but as a true leader.

Bellri, meanwhile, fucks off to see the world. It's almost like Aida was the MC all along.

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>>15190656
fuck she's going to become a tyrant

>>15190662
The usage of The World hella works for Aida.

>Tomino says G-Reco takes place 500 years after Turn A
>This is nonsensical and completely impossible, contradicting the work itself

>Everybody and everything else says Turn A comes well after G-Reco
>This contradicts the creator and the work itself

Somebody please help me understand.

>>15190813

Tomino was drunk and decided to troll the fanbase obsessed over "timelines."

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>>15190542
>I'm personally gonna wait until it's done to watch it all the way through

>>15190813
>Somebody please help me understand.
The fact is Japan has a very loose definition of canon. Japan as a cultured doesn't really CARE to nail down specifics, or trying too hard to keep consistencies.

My personally theory is that this is due to Japan being polytheistic in traditions. By their nature they are used to different people believing in different things, and there is no historically need to created iron clad "canon" like Western Abraham religions do.

In general they just don't care what really happened, or that a small part of A contradicts B. There isn't even any real need to use multiverse as an explanation. The Japanese creators and fans just don't care about consistency between series that much compared to western fans.

>>15189637
>Plot and story that ultimately lead nowhere
This isn't true. I think Reconguista is a bit of a mess that gets less compelling as it goes, but there's definitely a complete story in it that explores its themes.

>>15190656
>Ultimately, the war accomplished nothing
The war never started to accomplish anything. The story was about stopping a few irresponsible people who thought of themselves as the next rulers of the galaxy because they managed to get their hands on UC technology.

>All the problems and issues that caused the various sides to take up arms are still there
Of course, that's the whole point of Gundam, it's in the nature of mankind to wage war, see how armed conflicts rise again and again through the UC and after? That's the reason they put the photon battery distribution in place. The show isn't telling you that all is well for all eternity for manking because a few assholes died in the end, it's telling you to be responsible so that this kind of shit won't happen again.

>The show even goes so far as to put Klim Nick's dad trying to rally up the populace again after it ended
Ameria's president was the biggest warmonger of all. They didn't took him out after it ended, it ended when they took him out.

>So ultimately the war solved nothing itself
The war never was about solving anything, most people had healthy lifestyles but their greed and nature made them crave for more, then it kept escalating when they thought they could get everything.

>Aida and the Megafauna have been all over the system. They've met with various parties and learned why the war happened in the first place, they realize that everyone had a reason to fight
This show is about a bunch of people finding by themselves what kind of world they live in and what would be the right thing to do.

>Bellri, meanwhile, fucks off to see the world. It's almost like Aida was the MC all along
Bellri was mostly following others and their ideals through the show, he only started his own journey at the very end of the show.

>>15190656
>Ultimately, the war accomplished nothing. All the problems and issues that caused the various sides to take up arms are still there, only thing that really happened was a bunch of warmongers were taken out.
You could make that argument about the majority of gundam, almost like war doesn't actually solve the grievances people fight for

Most show the war is ultimately not really for the greater good like they pretend, that issue isn't solved by their bloodshed, bad and innocent people die and then a status quo with a slight shift is the end result.

>>15190662
Aida is a bad pilot

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>>15191676
SHE IS TRYING HER BEST! BE NICE!

>>15191676
>mick : aren't you happy to fight alonside our princess?
>nick : not really, she's not particularly capable.

>>15191677
poor Aida

>>15191677
Do or do not. There is no try.

>>15191569
>The war never started to accomplish anything.
Actually, didn't the war start so the evil mastermind Cumpa could "strengthen" humanity or some cliche bullshit like that? Because if not humanity was gonna deteriorate like the Venus Globe folks?

>>15192648
You can pretend that Build Fighters didn't have a sequel all you want Yoda but you're never getting those hours back.

>>15192875


PIANI KALUTA

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>>15192881
I can't pretend that I didn't have those faps.

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>>15192875
I think he means it wasn't for any political goal, the war was to cause war as the natural state of humanity

>>15192966
"War for war's sake" really makes his motive sound dumb as shit.

>>15193036
You should also realize that Cumpa is Tomino's Abe insert, so if it sounds dumb it probably is a critic towards him.

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>>15191861
treu best girl

>>15193036
>"War for war's sake" really makes his motive sound dumb as shit.

Survival of the fittest is philosophy held by many.

>>15193036
It's wasn't war for the sake of war, it was war to keep mankind from weakening further as a species.

>>15193256
yeah, Klim was the best girl the show

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So who won the Bellri bowl?

>>15194930
MT fuji

>>15194263
he's right, its fucking retarded. dumb fucking show. the conflicts were so pointless and meaningless.

>>15144899
Is G-reco /m/'s favorite show?

>>15194930

Fuji-san.

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>>15194341
I see you to are a man of taste

>>15193109
So this is another variation of "the characters are supposed to be dumb!" apology.

>>15194954
Fuck no.
Only Gundam I've ever dropped and I've seen them all.
Even Destiny and AGE were better than this shit.

>>15195372
>>15195445
>>15193036
The retard is back again

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>>15194954
It still can't quite dethrone AGE and SEED Destiny, unfortunately.

>>15195543
This shit poll was made by an weebshit from Animesuki or ANN that it hates mecha action and loves cancer.

It's no wonder that Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket and Turn-A are not included in this list.

>>15183903
I find that 'trainwreck' as used by the typical anon is used to mean 'campy/over the top/ ridiculous stuff is bad'. Recent examples like valvrave and cross ange gets hit with that label on top of bad writing because they don't like these sort of cheesy B-movie type of stories.

>>15190813
>This is nonsensical and completely impossible, contradicting the work itself
Not really. It still suits the theme of Turn A. The black history stuff being revealed still ties into the taboo and the animosity against the spacenoids.

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>>15190813
>This is nonsensical and completely impossible, contradicting the work itself
In what way? The only questionable part is still calling stuff UC, but as a thread here ages ago pointed out what we call periods of time now are different from what they called them at the time or even up to present day.

Outside that there is nothing that questionable, no more than some how every gundam show somehow can fit in a timeline.

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great mech action

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>>15198374
>he was gentle but strong

Aida plz, he probably destroyed your puss

>>15198258
Fraw Bow is so fat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hRP-9IFyds

It still doesn't transform

>>15144899
I thought Tomino himself said that it turned out poorly paced and overall worse than he wanted.

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>>15201674
I don't think fulldress can transform like normal arcane

More surprisingly she hits stuff

>>15201674
I wouldn't expect it to since the full dress equipment replaces the rear skirt piece that has engines in it.

Just done wit my second rewatch, caught on more stuff since the last one but I'm still iffy about Lorruca Biskes character.

After the Venus Globe incident they steal the Darma and Trinity from the Git Corps and transport them back to the earth sphere aboard the Crescent Ship where he ask Miraji about giving them to the Amerians, next time we see them they're onboard the Full Moon during the Yggdrasil launch test and the next second they're offering the Darma and Trinity to Nick and Mick on what I expect to be the Crescent ship. How does all of this work? Everyone was racing to get to the Full Moon and they managed to get there first for some reason before simply leaving unnoticed, which I guess would be much easier than getting onboard.

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>>15201674
STILL QT

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Fresh Nugs, get her while she is hot she always is

>>15203217
fat

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she was the best girl

Good

>>15208024
>Raraiya is legal

>>15208024
>she was the best girl

Debatable.
Noredo was great, Fish girl was second best.

>>15208091
Only Wilmit could pretend being better than Raraiya.

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>>15203234
sneaky moons

>>15210426
Tomino better have a good explanation. 'I fucked up with the audience on purpose' would even work.

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This is my boy

Never change, /m/

>>15202991
That's irrelevant.

Hitchcock thought that Vertigo was shit.

G-Reco did fail on what it tried to do: which was to teach the younger audience about war.

It is very subtle, but Urobuchi's review summed it up really well.

At the very beginning we get confused because we don't know which faction to root for as we could not sympathise with any one of them. We could not sympathise because we could not "see" their plight.

We never saw how badly the Kuntalas were treated.

We never saw the war between Ameria and Gondwana.

We saw the okay living conditions on the Moon and their energy monopoly given by Venus.

We saw the luxurious life on Venus and longer life span but at the cost of irregular body conditions.

This kind of reflect real life, where it is not about good and evil as everyone is just working towards their own interests.The West hates Islam as the media propagates, but we never see the actual plight of the Islamic people. China is portrayed as inhumane, but do we see how resource stricken their common folk are?

The resolution was to work together rather than fighting needlessly about it.

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>>15144899
>Endurance Test
>MSG - all episodes
>Zeta - all episodes
>ZZ - all episodes
>CCA - whole movie
>Eva - all episodes
>EoE - whole movie

>AGE - 1 episode
>G-Reco - 5 episodes

...so you're technically better than AGE, G-Reco. Good for you?

>>15213466
wat

any kinu nishimura is a 10/10 for me

>>15213466
are gundam fags always this autistic?

>>15213050
Hitchcock had issues with the script, but he enjoyed it enough to buy the ownership rights back for his estate.

Your example is wrong, but your point is accurate.

>>15213434
>butcher
>subtle
Ebin shitpost m9

>>15214061
>I didn't read the article the poster was referencing but I'm going to spout shit anyway!
>I'm even going to accuse the poster of doing the very thing I'm doing!

>>15144899
Honestly I think it wouldn't have been so bad if it got the typical 50 episode treatment. The biggest thing harming it was the nonsensical jumps in the plot that really deserved more fleshing out.

>>15214056
>Hitchcock had issues with the script, but he enjoyed it enough to buy the ownership rights back for his estate.
Tomino enjoyed G-Reco, the only Gundam anime he legitimately feels ashamed of is Victory

>>15216839
I read it last year. It says a lot of nothing.
iirc he said ultimately he liked it. He's speaking about the problems brainlets might have getting into it. I don't think we should cater to brainlets on this board (part of the reason Tokushitters need to leave)

>>15217050
>the only Gundam anime he legitimately feels ashamed of is Victory

and rightly so, Victory it is a piece of trash.
This confirms that fans are unable to distinguish shit from shinola.

>>15216855
The only jump that could feel a bit weird was when they came back from Venus Globe and learned that Mask took the pope hostage on board the Kashiba Mikoshi and then left to pursue the Full Moon.

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>>15211678

>>15217257
He was ashamed he made such a sad show, not that it was bad
Tomino was depressed at the time and is now very embarassed at the edgy stuff he wrote

>>15218341
I thought it has more to do with the corporate meddling more than anything else

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>>15218723