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Pandora in the Crimson Shell

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So was this any good ?
i saw that it got an anime this year, and Shirow Masamune tends to make good stuff. So I'm interested in maybe getting started on it.
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>>15137692
>and Shirow Masamune tends to make good stuff

I too remember 1995
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>>15137692

Ah, a connoisseur of greasy ladies and horsecock, I see.
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>>15137692
>So was this any good ?
It's okay, I guess. I'm not sick of the manga yet and I watched the whole show.
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>>15137715
>>15137695

I have been a big fan of old school Shirow for some time now. I have just recently found myself enjoying some of his newer stuff as well. Even the weird greasy porn is actually pretty well drawn, and has some interesting features to it. The few episodes of Real Drive I've seen were really good. And I just finished the first episode of the Pandora anime and it was fun. I think it's a bit unfair to reduce his whole post 95 career to Wild Wet West.
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>>15137692
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>So was this any good ?
NO
After the good first episodes it becomes boring low budget badly animated SOL with literally no plot.
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>>15137692
Shirow was BARELY involved at all, he only came up with character ideas.
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>>15137934
That might be for the best.
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>>15137770
Wild Wet West is the best part of his post-95 career though.
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>>15137936
Nah it'd be even better (for himself and for the show) if he wasn't involved at all, because that association diminishes what little merit he and the show may have.
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>>15137692
This is more of a Koshi Rikdo work than anything else.

>>15137934
Even then, all his concepts were rejected or heavily altered. It's almost like he's not involved at all.
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>>15137692
I really enjoyed it
tfw no lesbot
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This picture is a more accurate representation of the series than the one you posted.

So yeah, it's great.
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>>15137934
Shirow's name being on it seems to mainly be there to attract old weebs who are seemingly the only ones that still know and care about Shirow, knowing him for more stuff than Gits.
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>>15138087
Obviously that didn't work (what a surprise) because the people who give a shit about Pandora are mostly newfags who care more about yurishit than about Shirow (what a surprise).

Also I'm not an old weeb. You don't have to be in your 30s to know about the rest of Shirow's pre-90 stuff.
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>>15138066
You see, a SoL comedy ecchi anime about a robot girl and a cyborg girl doing cute and lewd things is a great CONCEPT, but those skeletal character designs are total creepy.

And Shirow's designs weren't much better.

The only nice thing I've seen related to Pandora is that promotional pic done by Sonoda. It looks decent.
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>>15138115
Eh, Rikdo turned it into a scifi magical girl series in which a disabled cyborg gamer girl and an AI catgirl gynoid learn about the value of civic duties and holding hands, which is a fun enough concept.
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>>15138149
see
>>15138121

it's more fun to imagine than it is to watch
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>>15138153
We get it, you don't like the character design. That's not what we're talking about.
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>>15138173
And we get it, you like the concept so much that you're willing to ignore the fact that the manga and anime are a chore to look at.

What are we talking about then?
Are we just supposed to do a yuri circlejerk? If so why not take that thread to /u/?
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Shame no one bothers with summaries since the latest chapters are always free to view.
https://comic.webnewtype.com/contents/k_pandora/44/
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>>15138235
at the very least they kept Shirow's big nigga designs
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>>15138121
>disliking balljoints
ew
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>>15137934
>>15137964
>>15138087
Ah ok. I was under the impression that he was responsible for the story/characters, where the Excel Saga guy was responsible for the art. That was how they seemed to advertise it at least. Anyone have any sources for these claims ?

>>15137938
I prefer Wild Wet Quest personally.
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Its more Excel Saga than GiTS
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>>15138968
why do robot bodies need navels?
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>>15138974
>not wanting cute robots
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>>15138968
It is a pretty grim future if your protags look like this
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>>15139101
Don't worry, the Emperor protects.
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>>15138197
I haven't read the manga. The anime looked just fine.
I would have preferred if the leads weren't quite so loli myself, but it's nothing to whine about.
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>>15140711
You're wrong to think that and you should stop trying to justify your leniency, it's useless and silly.
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>>15138121
>that promotional pic done by Sonoda
Tell me more.

Y'know, what's he been doing recently anyways?
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>>15140721
He illustrated one of the end cards.

Sonoda doesn't seem to have done jack since Bullet the Wizard, makes me wonder if he's alright.
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>>15140730
Considering that he burned all bridges with the Gunsmith Cats fanbase, here's to hoping he has a good back-up job.
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>>15140711
>but it's nothing to whine about
This is /m/, literally everything is something to whine about in recent years.
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>>15137692
Do you want to whats like for the villain to completely lose his mind when he realizes he was the only one who wanted to be edgy in the whole story?This anime does exactly that
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>>15139101
Eh, the background information they give out at times do paint a pretty harsh future
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>>15141695
Pandora is like the happy SoL happening in the background of Ghost in the Shell. Things aren't shit somewhere in the world.
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>>15141738
>>15141695
Pandora is basically a libertarian island paradise according to most of the world's idea of libertarianism.

The American libertarians of course would disagree as the island appears to have a relatively strong government willing to spend cash on its citizen's wellfare and a lack of visible child prostitution.
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I recently listened to the Pandoradio drama CD. There's this really funny part where they get a mail, asking how much of Nene is cyborg. She says that it's everything but her brain but she's not sure herself if it's really there. Then she opens her head and asks Clarion in a creepy robotic voice if she sees a brain. Clarion panics and starts yelling Nene to close her face. She was appearantly too scared to even look at her because she answers about the brain with ''It was...probably there''.
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>>15137932
Good.
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Real Drive character design is something to behold
however I found the story a little lacking.

Shirow lost his edge, I don't even want to see what he let Hollywood do into a GitS movie
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>>15142291
It had some great kungfu though.

Also a robot and a dude finding love.
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>>15142291
I actually loved Meal Drive.
The character designs were fantastic, the slower pace was a nice change I thought that even the more SoL elements felt like they helped build the world. The plot was more standard fare but still enjoyable.
I guess it didn't do well at all because thw choice of an 80yo wheelchair bound MC was too much for the nips.
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>>15142493
No disagreement, only the story was lacking.
With a 80years timelapse I expected more than a Deus ex machina to explain both the warp-like explosion, the near telepathic connection and make our MC young again

I think it has less to do with the old MC than his exaggeratedly childish sidekick. I nearly dropped the show from the start seeing that the 2nd main characters you'll follow throughout all the plot was an airhead with plot power.
I kept some hope since she went to activate the windmill

Then again, you don't see that sort of show often
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>>15142291

I'm convinced Shirow died during that quake in 1995 and it's just been ghost writers since. It explains so much, not the least of which why he hasn't given an interview or been seen in public in over 20 years.
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>>15145297
>ghost writers
That would be quite bizarrely meta, if true.
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>>15145297
Remember that he have a fondness for CGI art and sea-food, maybe it's a ghost... on the internet.
I think we are on something.
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>>15141632
Wait wut? What about Sonoda and the fanbase?
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>>15146775
Sonoda upset a lot of Gunsmith Cats fans when he ended Burst in the most terrible way possible.
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>>15137692
The anime was pretty mediocre but it was good for the joints.
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