Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

You guys know you can wait to make a new thread right? /m/ is a pretty slow board. And you can easily keep posting past bump limit until the later pages.

>>15130008
Who will win the Mikabowl?

>>15130011
It's the same guy doing it over and over. Even if 99% of people agree with you this asshole is going to never stop.

>>15130011
I think it's impressive that, whoever makes these threads, are always able to make a new one the second the last one reaches the bump limit.

It's annoying, but, you have to admit, that is some serious dedication to watch /m/ like a hawk.

>>15130033
Barbatos.

>>15130011
it's because the old thread reached its bump limit

It would help if people didn't keep responding to that one guy that keeps posting ANN articles and while masquerading as a shit poster making the threads reach limit faster

>>15130033
Me

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Anyone got more PV's for this week's episode?

>>15130051
I'm saying that because you don't need to stop immediately at bump limit. The other thread is still on page 2. In case you haven't noticed, /m/ threads tend to last a while.

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>>15130011
Orga

>>15130011
Kinda related, but has anyone noticed the threads keep getting bumped with random pics or replies like >>15130084 ?

so when do we get to the episode where mika grows in size and fucks barbatos

>>15130011
>>15130035
>>15130038
>>15130081
>>15130087
nice try samefag, but multiple shit IBO threads will be created until it is filed.

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Barbatos Yaoi Hands

>>15130123
What

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>>15130125
Damn, Mace-chan had grown up.

>>15130146
its pretty good how Rex looks like the final form of Form 4

>>15130146
corn cob fingers. The yellow is disgusting.

>>15130123
Shut the fuck up you twat.

>>15130123
Why the hell are you replying to bait?

Just ignore him. He's annoying as fuck, he always posts the same shit in every thread.

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>>15130062

>>15130125
Banana fingers.

>>15130264
Is that the Grimgerde? I thought it had been turned into the Helmwigge.

>>15130351
That pic is from season 1 OP2

Alright so let me get this straight, this is what happened last episode:
>Naze got arrested for something that was never mentioned before to be illegal and has no real good reason to be
>but then he tried to run away from the space police
That's all, right? There were a few shots of near-naked Azee, too, but for the rest it was just IBO farting around like usual? I didn't forget anything?

>>15130355
Yeah I noticed quite a while ago, that IBO likes to show MSes from roughly the same perspective in hangars.
SEED had quite a similar feature- but there it was more izometric view, not up-front.
Also SEED had this fun vertical launch sequence, where MS would squat and then bounce off. this was so stupid that I'm glad all of next Gundams didn't follow this trend

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ULTIMATE BAEL AND GRIMGERDE CONSPIRACY

Notice how Grimgerde's and Bael's sword are nearly(and maybe) identical? And that vanilla Bael didn't have holsters for those swords?

So it means 1)If some moron had doubts now it's blatantly obvious who's going to pilot it
2)Grimgerde's swords are said to be super awesome and many people were dissapointed that they weren't an equipment for Helmwinge. Well, now we know what has happened to them.

Collage of pics for ref

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>>15130062
You can get them from IBO twitter, they will add the last one soon

https://twitter.com/g_tekketsu

>>15130391
>Naze got arrested for something that was never mentioned before to be illegal and has no real good reason to be
Are you retarded?

Seriously the question should be why isn't private ownership of mobile suits illegal.

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>>15130723
This is a good question, no idea really considering gjallarhorn has a monopoly in the drivers ´production they could have done that, but maybe since pirates are already criminals and there are MS floating everywhere thanks to the calamity war, so they are allowed as a mean for legal business to defend themselves from pirates?.

Yet I’m sure having a stolen Graze should be consider illegal, so no idea.

>>15130747
Didn't Gjallarhorn take care of them though?

Number of pirates was related to Gjallarhorn's influence.

Also ms were supposed to be rare in S1

>>15130391
First off, there are banned ammunitions in real life. The railgun rounds were banned after the war because they were so effective that it was basically just unfair and I imagine the ban was agreed to because nobody wanted to have them used against them.

Second, we knew that the original railgun rounds were a banned weapon already thanks to the Flauros model kit manual.

>>15130165
Then paint them you cancerous snap bitch

>>15130752
Gjallarhorn didn't really seem to give a fuck about anything outside of the Earthsphere. That shoal zone was the stomping grounds of the brewers and Teiwaz has their hands in pretty much everything in the outer regions like mars and jupiter back in S1. In last episodes flashback we also saw that transporters needed to hire ms pilots for protection.

After Gjallarhorn got publicly embarrassed things got worse but its not like pirate groups were super rare or anything.

>>15130827
>Second, we knew that the original railgun rounds were a banned weapon already thanks to the Flauros model kit manual.
>you have to read the model kit manuals for anything to make sense

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>>15130406
Remember the time they say that Valkyria Frame is mass produced? Hemwilge is a different machine but has same armor (and presumably equipment) so it can be said that the SUPER AWESOME SWORD is already mass produced at that time and Bael is using one of them. Otherwise it is just taken from other Grimgerde and gave it to Bael.

While we already have a speculation that McPedo is going to pilot this, we can't say for sure until we know who will pilot this Gundam.

>>15130406
it's the Grimgerde ones but upgraded

>>15130884
*We can't say for sure until we see it with our own eyes.

>>15130832
This. Hell, if Gjallarhorn had a strong presence on Mars then there wouldn't be PMCs like CGS in the first place. In fact, the original plot to kill Kudelia was in hopes it would set off riots that would lead to the Mars branch becoming more powerful.

... which could have helped with the pirates and human trafficking in that neck of the woods. Meanwhile the actions of the protagonists last season made those problems worse. Really makes you think.

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I wish I could say the same!

DON'T DIE!

>>15130884
Valurie frame wasn't mass produced, they only made 12 because it came at the very end of the war and got overshadowed by the gundams. According to its manual, Helmwige was one of the 12. Montag company acquired the original plans for the Helmwige's armor and weapons so the made their own set as optional equipment for McGillis's Grimgerde. The one from the MA arc is his former Grimgerde loaded with the Helmwige loadout, which is why it's called Helmwige Reincar (Because it's not the original helmwige, it's a recreation).

>>15130929
Considering the entire thing was the plan of a major arms dealer and the leader of Gjallarhorn Mars branch was in his pocket at the time I don't see them actually doing anything productive to end the war or conflict in the area if the revolution took off as planned. Coral just wanted more money and power. He was pissing himself when McGillis and Gaelio were preforming their audit.

>>15131041
Valkyrie* frame I mean.

>>15131041
Is it safe to say that Valkyrie frames are considered the tallgeese of this series?

From event:

-Gundam Frames were developed by Agnika's father
-Agnika was hot blooded
-Bael and Barbatos are similar because they were made close to each other
-Rex cockpit now opens from the side so Mika can get in easier
-Tail Blade will feel familiar to Mika, the wire is from Hashmal but the pointed tip is new
-Vulcans are equipped at the base of the hand
-A special alloy was used for the Rex's nails since the old hands were destroyed against Hashmal. Same as Valkyrja Blade one.
-Kutan will appear in the next ep.

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>>15131073
So those claws are a really strong weapon now, the tail is also yellow it is also made of that metal I wonder?

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>>15131071
Mostly, yeah. They aren't the first ever MS, but they were a high preformance MS that all Gjallarhorn grunts are descended from.

>>15131073
Looks like this super cool metal for MS swords' isn't that rare as it was said to be if it's going to be put in every fucking new machine.
Reginlaze Julia for 99.9999% has it too, look at the tips of it's swords.

>>15131094
So 3 machines out of the dozen or so we've seen have it. All 3 are protypes/one off machines as well.

I'd say that's still pretty rare.

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>"In Mobile Suit Gundam iron blood or fences' episode 40" fuel so-called Sun "today from 1/22 5:00 PM in the MBS/TBS series will broadcast. Turbines was put into a corner. Naze said still with Olga iron China delegation to defend your family. Thank you this week as well.

RIP

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>>15131125
>gets wrecked on the same week the kit releases

>>15131073
>Bael and Barbatos are similar because they were made close to each other
similar?
is this something like GP-01 and GP-02 being made together at the same point of time?

>>15131085
The Geirail frame bothers me. the ankle joints are just 2 directional pivots, bearing all the weight of the frame. Those things would've sheared the moment the Geirail takes a step.

>>15131125
But I don't want Space Fellini to die. He's honestly one of the best characters in the show.

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>>15131137
Well, it kind of make sense Barbatos is the ASW-G-08, Bael should be the ASW-G-01, maybe the first ten were made at the same time

>>15131073
>nails are stronger
Fucking called it.
>>15131083
>super strong tail
I hope so.
I can't wait to see it fuck shit up hasmals tail wrecked shit.

>>15131137
If you think about it, all of the Gundam frames have the same underlying frame structure, barring transformation add-ons for the suits that can transform.

Bael and Barbatos are both close range/high mobility suits with the difference being Bael was possibly designed for aerial assault while Barbatos is purely ground-based melee.

Structure wise, look at 4th Form Barbatos and Bael. The armor placement on both is very similar and features that triangle symbol.

In a way, you are right. While the GP project had around 4 suits counting the GP-00, they were built around different concepts and experimental tech while sharing certain mechanical features.

The Gundam Frames were made with the idea to kill as many Mobile Armors as quickly as possible. They needed a limited-run mass production so the frame desings are mostly the same, but each one has its own strengths if that makes sense.

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>>15131127
Shame.

>>15131166
>The Gundam Frames were made with the idea to kill as many Mobile Armors as quickly as possib
the underlying question here is whether or not AV systems are indeed initially inter-grated into the gundam frames and were all removed post calamity war

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>>15131073
>-Gundam Frames were developed by Agnika's father
I wonder if grunt suits were ever developed during the Calamity War in order to back the Gundams up.

>>15131246
>Nazee being smug everywhere while Amida is determined
At least some folks are looking happy in a preview for once.

>>15131073
What happened to Agnika?

>>15131073
Agnidad confirmed for Tem Ray.

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CAN YOU JOIN ME IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE

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>>15131284
Yeah the calamity war and its 72 Gundams kind of feel like its own Gundam show, including hot blooded son and mechanical genius dad

>>15131283

I imagine he's busy being dead.

>>15131298
Why is CharGillis so infatuated with him?

>>15131367
Because he's a famous historical figure and his childhood hero.

>>15130884
What in the hell is wrong with that Barbatos

>>15131495
noob builder

>>15131428
Is mcgillis related to agnika-sama?

>>15131027
Hopefully she dies in the next couple of episodes.

>>15131041
>Helmwige Reincar (Because it's not the original helmwige, it's a recreation).
Oh is reincar short for reincarnation?

>>15131734
You

>>15131777
She's irrelevant and does nothing anyway, killing her off would mean less padding.

>>15131838
No

>>15131753
No idea. But I believe they tacked on the "Reincar" tot he name because it's not the original Helmwige.

>>15131838
That's not fair... 90% of the case is that way too.

>>15131998
cast*

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>>15131998
Someone has to die this arc, really doubt is Lafter, but kind of hope someone actually dies of the “good guys”

>>15131073

Kutan?

>>15130833
There was very clear exposition about this in the episode.

>>15131233
I'm pretty sure the reason AV was created was so the pilots of the Gundams could have a better interface to control the mobile suit, rather than conventional controls. Plus, the way the Barbie and the Gusion reacted when the Mobile Armor is sighted was due to their bootlegged AV systems being unable to bear the massive amount of data the MS was trying to upload to their brain. I'm guessing the original AV systems in the Gundam cockpits were designed with the pilot in mind for this scenario specifically, since Gundams are MA killers.

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>>15132013
the "its-not-a-METEOR" support system for the mechs.

>>15131239
Wasn't it written somewhere that the Hexa and Rodi frames came first, and the Valkyrja and Gundam frames came later?

>>15132007
And if someone does, expect it to be heavily telegraphed that you fell nothing from it.

>>15132029
>I'm pretty sure the reason AV was created was so the pilots of the Gundams could have a better interface to control the mobile suit, rather than conventional controls

It also ups their reaction times and reflexes. In the MA fight Julietta (Who's supposed to be a good pilot) couldn't even keep up with the flow of battle they were moving around so quickly.

But yeah, the AV systems were definitely built into the gundams from the start. I'm pretty sure McGillis outright said that the Gundams were built around the AV technology back in season 1 along with Ein's fully integrated into the MS AV being the original form of it (Which makes sense as to why Mika is losing control of his limbs. Gundam pilots weren't meant to be unhooked from the MS).

>>15132039
Rodi frame was supposed to be an early MS frame made to be versatile and was produced in bigger numbers than any other MS.

Hexa frame was made sometime around the middle of the war and was notable for it's higher mobility and variety of weapons.

Valkyrie and Gundam frames were both developed at the same time at the very end of the war, but Valkyrie frame basically faded from history due to the gundams overshadowing it and becoming famous. Gjallahorn used the valkyrie frame as a base for developing the Geirail and eventually Graze and Reginlaze frames. The gundams never had any further units made or developed from them due to the production method for their twin linked reactors being difficult and then lost.

Also the frame the Hyakuren and Hyakuri use was initially developed during the Calamity war but never put into production. Teiwaz acquired the plans and used them to build their own MS (The Shiden uses a new updated frame developed from it).

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>>15132084
>Also the frame the Hyakuren and Hyakuri use was initially developed during the Calamity war but never put into production. Teiwaz acquired the plans and used them to build their own MS (The Shiden uses a new updated frame developed from it).
Not him, but that's news to me. Makes me appreciate expositions into the Calamity War more.

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>>15132100
Don't know if its mentioned in their manual's, but the Shiden manual mentions it. Basically it says that hyakuri/kuren frame was made based on an MS from the calamity war whose development was never finished.

I'm really glad they're including translations in the manuals now, even if they're English is google translate tier. They have a lot of neat info in them.

>>15131073
>-A special alloy was used for the Rex's nails since the old hands were destroyed against Hashmal. Same as Valkyrja Blade one.
>>15131083
>So those claws are a really strong weapon now, the tail is also yellow it is also made of that metal I wonder?
>>15131094
>Reginlaze Julia for 99.9999% has it too, look at the tips of it's swords.
>>15131104
>So 3 machines out of the dozen or so we've seen have it. All 3 are protypes/one off machines as well.
>I'd say that's still pretty rare.
Yeah, and two of them have it used sparingly anyways, Reginlaze Julia just has tips while Barbie get's claws and the tail tip.

>>15131560
>Is mcgillis related to agnika-sama?
Possibly, as well as Julieta.
Thus a possible the reason they were street rats that got preferential treatment from the heads of two Seven Stars families is due to some sort of Gene-lock on the Bael and/or other Gjallarhorn Super Tech.

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What’s McGillis end game?

>Japan: This killed a timeslot
>/m/ and /co/: This killed gundam
>Anime Suki: This saved mecha
>ANN: This saved gundam
>Mecha Talk: Okay we got what we wanted....

Can we all agree next series needs a fuck of a lot more action and fast pacing?

>>15132193
Only if you volunteer to commit seppuku.

>>15132167
"Restore" Gjallarhorn to his romanticized view of how it was in the beginning through overwhelming might and authority.

>>15132202
No

>>15132213
Then we are at an impasse.

>>15132222
who is against action and fast pacing in a place that desperately needs it? Is /m/ getting invaded?

>>15132100
Any word on how the HG is of this suit? It looks pretty cool.

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>>15132270
e are a few reviews of it up if you look around. No idea on how good it is personally but pretty much all the IBO HG line has had fantastic engineering if that's what you're worried about. Only downside seems to be it has a big sticker sheet.

http://hobbynotoriko.yumenogotoshi.com/hg-ibo-hekija.html

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>>15132295

6 hrs to go!

>>15132007
IBO has the sexiest grills

>>15132036
Wait this things going to be in the next ep?

Nice

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>>15132521
It makes sense, it’s a Teiwaz MS carrier glad they didn’t forget it existed

>>15132167
Stop the corruption.
As soon as he finishes off Rustal he'll set his sights on Tekk.

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RIP Turbines

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>>15132550
Anyone got the name of this book?

>>15132100
>>15132295


Reminds me of DIO due to its design. I will mine paint it all yellow with some neon green once it arrives.

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>>15131180
What the hell look at those nubs!!!

>>15130165
>>15130345

you do realize they are made of the same shit the Grimgerde's sword and the tips of the Reinglaze Julia melee is made of, right?

just saiyan

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I don't know how often this question gets asked but
Where the fuck is this sword?
Now the Barbatos gained fuck huge arms and hands will this sword ever be used?
I imagine some people bought the hasmal just for some exclusive piece that never showed up in the actual fight.

>>15132766
jew'd

>>15132766
They busted out the toys faster than the show could keep up. My gut feeling says The Helmwige isn't going to get much more screentime either for similar reasons

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>>15132766
No idea what was the point of that thing, maybe it was like the Gusion optional weapons the cleaver and the axe it only exists in the Gunpla

>>15132766
gunpla stuff that hasn't appeared:
-Lupus: new katana, railgun
-Shiden: 2 horn visor, head antenna, bladed bat
-Reginlaze: rocket launcher and grenade launcher attachments for the rifle, gauntlets
-Flauros: knives and short cannon

gotta sell those kits!

>>15132766
Didn't he use that against Ein in the finale?

Or was that a different sword?

>>15132790
uhm:

-i do believe 1 Shiden had a bat in the Balfour conflict
-head antenna is on Ride's machine

pretty spot on about the rest. some of this shit i the show is blink-and-miss it

>>15132793
he used original katana-chan

>>15132770
Fucking jews

>>15132803
nope the bat hasn't appeared and the antenna I mentioned is from the Option Set and completely different from the Ryusei Go one

>>15132790
Iok used the railgun against the MA and the Shiden Kai has the antenna.

>>15130062
Good to see Ein back. Still full retard?

>>15132815
We're talking about the Railgun the Lupus is holding in the promo shots for Op.Set 7

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>>15132766
>>15132790
>>15132810

>>15132766
the thing about this sword is that, unlike the other weapon sets released individualy, it came along with an actual kit and was shown being used in the cover, so it really tricked me into thinking "this is legit, we gonna see this used in the actual anime" unlike "they are just demonstrating the compatibility of this accessory with unrelated mobile suits"

>>15132778
>the cleaver and the axe it only exists in the Gunpla

They're used by the customized man rodi in the side manga.

>>15132790
>rocket launcher and grenade launcher attachments for the rifle

On of Iok's subordinates had it right before Hashmal raped them.

>>15132815
Different railgun.

>>15132918
chopper and axe were used offscreen by Rebake and appear for a brief second in the final ep

>>15132921
nope, only the sword attachment has appeared(not used too)

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>>15132927
I'm talking about these guys.

>>15132295
Am I the only one who thinks this thing is ugly?

>>15132951
>kit never

What is with the IBO line and ignoring all the Rodi variants? At least the Landman is getting SOME acknowledgement even if it's just leg parts in a fucking option pack.

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>>15132970

>>15132982
And it'll probably never get a kit.

>>15132970
Nobody really cares about the side manga outside of the gundams in it. That and iirc man rodi was like the least popular of the gunpla last year which is why they're pushing the landman rodi so hard this season and not really doing any gunpla for the other rodi variants.

I remember someone saying that the IBO waterslide sheet had decals specifically for spinner rodi on it though so maybe that's getting a kit.

>>15132951
That's from the gekkou

>>15132982
labrys

>>15132988
Garm rodi sexy tho
The commander type in particular

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>>15132991
I already said they're from the manga.

>>15132988
>they're pushing the landman rodi so hard this season
The only thing the landman is getting is a set of legs in an option pack so you can do your own conversion. It's still not getting a real kit.

>>15133004
Not really, it's a wannabe tieren and the worst looking of the Rodi family.

Landman Rodi is sexiest followed by Spinner Rodi.

>>15133011
eah, but that option set boosts sales of the man rodi HG.

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I just realize something, does this mean 300 years ago every Gundam pilot was at least Mika tier? that's crazy

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>>15133014
but the sex

>>15133017
They probably all ended up like Ein.
Which is how Mika will probably end up.
If Atra is lucky, he'll install a stick with a vibrate function for her.

>>15133017
Have they said how many MAs there were during the calamity war?

Since the writers confirmed Agnika was hot blooded can we safely assume that Chocolate Man has twisted Agnika's beliefs to suit his own purposes?

>>15133036
"Countless" according to the model manual.

So a lot. Presumably more than there were gundams.

>>15133049
oh rly. . .

OVA WHEN????????

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>>15133049
Yeah all we know is that they were a huge number of them and likely Hashmal level not just Plumas

>>15133089
I'm pretty sure the "countless" number is including the Plumas, so the majority of them were likely very much not Hashmal level.

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>>15133088
No sir we will never witness the full glory of Calamity War

I want to fuck Agnika Kaeru. Nekketsukan are my fetish after all.

>>15133115
It's probably for the best. Like Hamster Huey and the Gooey Kablooie, showing it could never live up to the hype in your head.
It's better to leave it to the audience to just imagine how terrible and terrifying a war it was where they can imagine far bigger and more terrifying than what the creators could write.

Honestly the stuff about the Calamity War is more interesting than the show itself.

>>15133134
Go to bed chocoman

>>15133161
The biggest reason I want a movie or sequel is because the universe is so cool, so much wasted potential
prequel or something

>>15133154
I believe you mean the Noodle Indecent.

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>>15133227
That is better. One is just a story the other actually happened.
I do love that Watterson never did explain either one.

>>15133017
I think they were probably more Ein tier with a few Mika tier
>>15133029
I was under the impression that Eins was the Alaya Vijina TM and Mikas Martian AV is just jury rigged.
>>15133110
it said there were countless MAs and I dont know if plumas are MAs or not.
There were probably plenty of Hashmal tier and hopefully even better ones.

>>15133231
That was basically the entire joke, especially for the noodle incident. It was just that really big thing Calvin did at some point in the past that got him into more trouble than anything else he did or potentially could do in the future.

>>15133161
It's the same thing with other AUs with catastrophic wars behind them.

The biggest reason we'll probably never get a Calamity War movie/series/OVA is because that would mean Bandai would have to design and make kits of ALL the Gundam frames.

Because, you know, it's not like that wouldn't be fucking printing money or anything.

>>15133234
>I was under the impression that Eins was the Alaya Vijina TM and Mikas Martian AV is just jury rigged.
From what I've gathered, the Martian AV system is slapped on in the back room of a chop shop by people who barely know what they're doing, which is why it has such a high mortality or other failure rate. But the original AV system did seem to be functioning on the same principle of hooking the pilot up but they could still disconnect.
Ein went above and beyond and chose to reject what was left of his humanity to take his AV system to the end game of what it could do and become one with his machine.
If all the Calamity War mechs were piloted by meat popsicles like Ein, why would they even have controls you could manipulate by hand?

Airing in 30 minutes.

>>15133251
>If all the Calamity War mechs were piloted by meat popsicles like Ein, why would they even have controls you could manipulate by hand?
All of the Gundam frames' cockpits we've seen so far have been modified. We know Barbatos originally had an AV system but it was removed from the cockpit, they had to put an AV link in the Barbatos that was taken from a mobile worker.

Flauros might be the one example of a Gundam that has been preserved since the calamity war, but they haven't shown us the cockpit before it was refurbished.

>>15130062
Graze-Ein again?

>>15133264
it seems to me that the kimaris is without AV system. Did the bauduin family already have that system removed after the war?

>>15133251
>the removed cockpit meme again
Barbatos still had all the physical controls and screens, the only thing shown to have actually been removed was the seat.

>>15133287
Meant to reply to >>15133264

>>15133274
Kimaris was refurbished and prepared for Gaelio's use, I would have imagined that they would have removed the AV system if it wasn't necessary.

>>15133287
No shit. My point is that it's been modified. We don't know what a Calamity war era Gundam cockpit looks like, so I'm hesitant to think of them as sealed containers with the pilot's brain and nervous system hooked up to the Gundam's AV system. I'm of the opinion that the Gundam operators weren't meat popsicles and that Ein's setup was specific to his situation, which is why I brought up the fact that Barbatos was just missing an AV rig and all they had to do was take one from a mobile worker and install it into the seat.

>>15133251
McGillis, the giant Calamity war history buff, said that Ein's version of AV was the original setup of it.

it's on

>>15133310
I think you're reading way too much into McGillis's comment about the "true form." He could have easily been (and actually fucking was) talking about the depth of the connection between man and machine and not the actual, physical appearance of Ein's jar.

holy shit they used the Dainsleif

Iok is a madman

fffffucvk im letrally shaking right now

Judging from early reactions Iok did something impressive for once in his life?

>>15133339
>Trying to avenge your comrades and restore your honor.
>By commiting a war crime.
>Not even against the people you're misdirecting your anger towards.

Iok, not the brightest is he?

>>15133367
He started using the banned ammo himself. The same ammo he's accused Teiwaz of having and where it's a crime just to own it.

the final part of today's episode struck me hard. A really really emotional episode.

>>15133375
Who died?

>>15133374
>himself
He had a firing squad use them, he was in the ship the whole time.

>>15133377
Amida and Naze. The exact people you'd expect to die. Lok may have died too but it was meh.

>>15133378
Like it matters. He's the one in charge. He's the one who said to use it despite being in a position where he's supposed to maintain order.

>>15133379
Wait the rest of Turbine girls survived?

>>15133379
Did any unnamed turbines die or any of the kids on the ship or anything?
Previews for next ep looked good. I tuned in at the very end.

today's episode have shown how corrupt Arhianrod can be. Now McGillis have my utmost support in reforming Gjallahorn. McGillis has to at this point!

>>15133383
Several Turbines freighters were destroyed.

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This episode in a nutshell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GYB1neCEic

>>15133371
>>15133374
Orgs is going to go full NUCLEAR on Iok in the next few episodes.

>>15133383
>>15133382

Some of the unnamed ones seemed to have died but Lafter and Azee survived. They were saved by the guys who are eventually going to be fucking them (Akihiro and Ride).

>>15133382

Of course. Can't scare the viewers away by eviscerating nameless extras, can we?

>>15133379

i see ibo doesn't have any issues with being predictable

Next ep looks like Shino and Eugene convincing Akihiro to fuck Laughter.

>>15133385
At this point everyone involved in Gjallhorn needs to be put down.Rustal and his lackeys are corrupt,Chocolate Man is a manipulative backstabber and the other Seven Stars members are probably incompetent.

>>15133392
Plenty of nameless extras died in this episode though. It's still stupid Azee survived, but whatever.

>>15133397
Will he? I liked that shot of them at the bar.

>>15133404
>>15133371
Fucking Iok. At least he's dead now. right?

>>15133402

>plenty

A handful of nobodies no-one cares about.

Oh hey, history's repeating itself. Good thing the Turbines have 50,000 members and Tekkadan have hundreds of extra dogsbodies so we can pretend to feel tense when the narrative demands that the protagonists are in a dire situation.

>>15133409
Nope. He lived.

>>15133404
hmm so thats the forbidden ammo

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>>15133412
Fuck.

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>>15133416
It’s a good glass

>>15133410
Most of those members are noncombatants. And yeah, they should have killed noncombatants and stuff, but ultimately it would have had the same effect. Killing a bunch of nameless people as you said doesn't really matter or create real tension in the story. Until named Tekkadan members die we won't really ever feel the stakes are that high, but Naze being taken out of the game could be an accelerated catalyst if they actually write well for once.

>>15133398
>Wanted criminal launched surrender signal multiple times and yet was ignored.
McGillis backstabbing is now justified due to how inconsiderate Kujan is.

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>>15133412
Good, he's the sort that will have either a humiliating death or some sort of badass last stand death possibly after switching sides.

>>15133404
I honestly thought there was an upper limit to how much I could dislike a character. Shinn got on my nerves. Kira was bullshit incarnate. I even had some issues with Garrod when I watched X. But I never hated them.

Iok proved me wrong. Never have I wished death on a fictional character more than now.

At least Naze and Amida took one episode to die rather than dragging on a space fight for a few episodes. I understand they only have 10 eps left after this but I was still worried they'd drag it.

>>15133423
He's fucked up too much to be allowed to switch sides at this point.

Julieta is a useless bitch. She couldn't even beat Amida in a head on fight even with her new MS.

Is Julieta's new suit seriously called the "Reginlaze Julie"? She isn't even integrated into it like Ein was to his experimental Graze.

>>15133439
Yet

>>15133436

Because the protagonists are flawless gods of the battlefield and can only be defeated through underhanded trickery.

This is IBO we're watching.

>>15133017
Better probably.

The Gundams have a supercharger for when MA shows up. Considering that's what they were literally made to do, it doesn't make sense that your pilot would have to cripple himself to fight them.

The VJ they have is probably a second-hand knockoff of the original, just as the Grazes are all inferior to the Gundam frames.

>>15133115
This timeline has crazy potential. A Calamity War series would be amazing.

>>15133530

Copy-paste, the shot.

>let's frame this guy with this illegal AP shell
>let's use said AP shell to kill him

Iok-sama can't be this retarded.

>>15133441
Aston died like a man.

>>15133530
Copy-pasted Grazes again?

>>15133558

No, he died because his friend was an idiot.

>>15133530
IBO delivers another well animated battle.

I just watched the ep. Okay, so Iok ignored surrender signals and was killing off all the nomcombatants and civilians escaping...it wasn't just a few fighters that died along with Naze and Amida. Why is he so stupidly evil? I don't understand. They don't explain his character well at all.

>>15133636

I think it's a couple of things.

We know that, for reasons related to honor and family pride and all the myriad things that plagued Carta, he is terminally stupid. On top of that, I can only assume the loss of his men and Rustal's threat of severing the alliance between their houses made him vengeful as well as exceedingly ambitious.

>>15133530

Toei pls

Oh, wait-

in the news today:

local intellectually disabled man breaks international law and rules of engagement

>>15133636

He's nothing more than a male Carta, except it's Jasley and Rustal pulling at his strings instead of McGillis. Of course they wrote Carta to be a more endearing character, but it's the same theme of a Gjallarhorn seven star being blatantly incompetent.

>>15133419

I think Eco didn't make it among them when the freighter hit.

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I just started the first season.

What the fuck is the relationship between Kudelia and Nobliss (apart from being her sponsor)? I only ask because the few times they spoke to each other, at least one of them is shown to be half naked.

Don't tell me Kudelia was selling herself to him for the sponsorship.

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>>15133687
The girl in the front should be Eco.

>>15133689
He's an ultra powerful mogul who doesn't give a shit about modesty or her feelings.

>>15133694

Just seeing the scene where the whole freighter got killed in the oxygen loss made think that was Eco along with the rest of the bridge crew.

Eco: Dare kara tasukete

Tekkadan: Chotto mattete!

>>15133695
Yeah but is she or is she not? Because the undertones are freaking me out.

>>15133689

Basically Kudelia is a political activist who made a speech and a campaign about the prices for Martian Half-metal which is an important made-up resource, she wants to make it so more profits go to Martian businesses so the planet gets less poor. The Nobliss guy sponsors her because he sees her as a tool to help his own business, which is revealed later to be arms dealing. He uses her to stir up political shit on Mars and in the colonies so he can sell weapons and machines to revolutionaries and profit. Later on when Kudelia gets to Earth she meets with one of the Earth nation politicians who sees her as another useful political tool to get himself reelected on an economic anti-Gjallarhorn basis, thus letting Mars and Earth join forces in the half-metal trade and sticking it to the man. Also Kudelia additionally ends up making deals with the space Mafia and has them buy into her half-metal mines later on.

She's actually pretty industrious.

>>15133412

Are you sure? It looked like the Hammerhead's front crushed his command deck flat.

>>15133410

Why are you pretending there are no stakes when 2 named supporting characters just bit it?

I've said this before, major characters in Tekkadan have died and are going to die, but if they kill the main cast before a central, final confrontation then who is going to fight Rustal and/or McGillis?

Gundam series in general don't kill main characters until the final few episodes, i.e. episodes 46-52.

>>15133371
Of course not. He's an idiot desperate for affection from his surrogate father figure, Rustal. He's a fucking child playing at war; cruel and without thought.

With him surviving, Rustal can't afford to execute him without alienating his family and Iok won't think anything about bragging about his actions to everyone to show how strong he is, implicating Rustal either indirectly or directly. Even if Rustal does kill him, the Turbines, Tekkadan, and Gjallarhorn all have evidence of several war crimes: using prohibited weapons, ignoring repeated surrender attempts, and slaughtering fleeing civilians.

This is a pivotal moment: Iok just gave McGillis the pretext for declaring war on Rustal and removing him from power.

>use illegal weapons
>on a bunch of unarmed women and possibly children

I think Iok has cross the line way too many fucking times.

>>15133727

Don't bully Iok!

>>15133382
They destroyed their ships, at least one girl died when they sealed off the bulkhead to prevent decompression (wear your helmets kids!), and then they destroyed a few of the escape pods after that.

Somekne post the new gusion rifle looks sweet and does it fold up for melee use?

>>15133716
>Why are you pretending there are no stakes when 2 named supporting characters just bit it?

Because those characters didn't do shit. Amida was barely a character and got all of her back story last episode. Naze dying earlier would have been worth something. Back when Tekkadan was still rookie and he was their resupply and money pimp. He used to be their crutch. Now they are far more self sufficient and he had no purpose anymore. The show was already setting his wives up with other people before he even died and he didn't even care. They took the bite out of his character long ago. In fact, didn't they retcon them not even being his wives? Were those kids even theirs? Naze was a poorly handled character who lost everything that made him unique a long time ago.

>>15133703
No, stop being weird. Kudelia is a good girl. She's pure as undriven snow.

>>15133686
Of course, as we find out, Carta's incompetency comes from her being trained to fight mobile armors, not mobile suits, and not knowing any better while Iok's incompetency comes from genuinely jusy being a petty child with too much power and very little regard for his subordinates. But yeah, I personally liked Carta, and seeing how Iok's handled, Im kind of glad she went out while she was still endearing instead of turning into what he is.

>>15133707
Why are you spoiling the rest of the season for him? The fuck is wrong with you?

>>15133731
Fuck that dick licker.

>>15133731
I can see Rustal personally choking him to death.

Iok has fucked everything up. Again.

>>15133750
Really makes you appreciate the fox lady retrospectively, huh?

>>15133716
>major characters in Tekkadan have died

Yeah, if you count Biscuit. And Aston. Such profound loss our protagonists have suffered.

>going to die

Fuck off, no they won't. They've made it abundantly clear that they're not willing to take the slightest risk beyond killing characters whose deaths we can see coming a mile away thanks to the truly brilliant and subtle foreshadowing this show offers like shoving Naze's fucking ghost in the opening, and considering that the director intervened to make the ending 'happier' last time I won't rule out a repeat occurrence.

>then who is going to fight Rustal and/or McGillis?

Why the fuck do you think I'm suggesting killing everyone in Tekkadan? Kill -somebody-! Somebody in the core group, not some fuckwit from Teiwaz who we've barely seen since around the middle of S1, so that we can earnestly believe that Tekkadan has cracks in the armor and we can see these cardboard cut-outs develop and react to the loss of a member of their 'family'.

There are no stakes involved because on top of Tekkadan being invincible we don't fucking care about these people and there just so happens to be an abundance of nameless extras to kill. They bring Naze and Amida back from them doing nothing just to kill them off after some paltry 'We're totally gonna die' development and because the Turbines are 50,000 strong that gives them all the meatshields in the world to sacrifice, so that people can feel 'sad' when it happens.

Kill someone that matters, maybe the show will be better off for it.

>>15133737
I'm disappointed that Gusion didn't went quad long rifle.

>>15133751
I always felt bad for her. She was an idiot, but she was still just doing her job. Iok has repeatedly gone out of his way to fuck things up and get people killed for his own ego.

>>15133754
Yeah but that huge as fk cannon was baller regardless.

>>15133752
Nobody even has to die Tekkedan just need to LOSE dammit. They need to be faced with something that they cant overcome and they cant get their way out of and take a serious beating, something that shows us that theyre small, that they arent powerful. But its kind of too little too late at this point, anyways. This all shoulve happened episodes ago.

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Kill one of these two, or both. And one of the Ride-Shino-Akihiro unit. Those are the only characters that would "matter" on Tekkadan side. Aside from Mika, of course.

So as for Mcgillis's allies.

My theory is that the allies are members of Loks own fleet. the same people who used the illegal machinery and also 'admitted' that they didn't see the hammerhead signal any flares or calling for surrender or talking.

Doing this would definitely fuck up Iok royally in Gallahorn when they present Mcgillis the evidence needed to bring more shame to Iok and also the members of the Arinhood fleet that took part in the massacre. At least in the dort colonies they manipulated the media to make Galahorn look like the good guys fighting against anarchists, but insiders revealing Ioks monstrosity would give him no wiggle room.

So if Mcgillis did have allies who allowed Iok to do as it pleased in the meaning of screwing him and Rustal later, it would also drive the eventual wedge between Orga and Mcgillis if Orga ever found out that Mcgillis intentionally did nothing to help even though he said he would, since it would be the same as helping Iok to kill Naze to further Mcgillis's own ambitions instead of sabotaging Ioks workings to save Naze like Orga would of wanted.

>>15133758
Uh, that was literally what happened in Canada. Both times.

They only got saved the first time because Mika, and the second time showed how bad they can be. They're not going to lose many actual fights; the show has repeatedly stated that they're VJ system is basically playing with cheats on.

>>15133409
Hammerhead missed the bridge and deflected into another ship

>>15133738

Yes. Of course, how didn't I see that. When the nameless characters die it's meaningless but when the named characters die as well it's also meaningless because you can shift the goalposts so that the deaths don't count.

I accept your opinion as valid now. Thanks for clarifying that with me.

>>15133762

Eugene is an absolutely worthless hanger-on and I have no idea why he's still alive.

The issue, too, is that every single core pilot of Tekkadan except Ride has a fucking Gundam, and Ride himself has a new machine which will render him untouchable for the next few episodes, so unless the writers prove they're willing to take risks, those Gundams guarantee their immunity.

>>15133402
>It's still stupid Azee survived, but whatever.
But she's most moe...

>>15133423
>Good, he's the sort that will have either a humiliating death or some sort of badass last stand death possibly after switching sides.
>>15133432
>He's fucked up too much to be allowed to switch sides at this point.
Nah, he'll get an Ein special to use his family Gundam, and Julieta will care for his stumpy ass the rest of their lives.

>>15133436
>She couldn't even beat Amida in a head on fight even with her new MS.
Hey Amida didn't live as long as she has as an MS Pilot by just being decent.

>>15133418
From the way the crack spreads passed the Window frame I expect it's the Nanolaminate that cracked

>>15133772

No, they certainly don't, when the characters in question have rushed development in an attempt to have the audience care about them, and all the emotional depth of a pothole.

Tekkadan is untouchable, and everyone around them is either an idiot standing in their way to get mulched, or a crutch that sacrifices themselves for the sake of their continued existence.

>>15133773
Eugene is one of the only non retarded members of the series, but he's very underwritten so it wouldn't make much of a difference if he died. I think the feats he's performed in the series are more interesting/unique on a starship perspective than most of the other characters, but that's probably because the MS fights in this series are so goddamn underwhelming if they aren't Mika.

Though he does need to inherit Tekkadan if Orga dies. While one is alive, the other is not really necessary at the end, so one should be dead by the end for sure.

>>15133752
We've seen at least six people close to the main cast die. Admittedly, they fucked the finale by changing the ending, but you can't say they haven't lost or suffered.

Julieta and isurugi gets btfo on the first sortie of their new ms
Coincidence?

>>15133689
Kudelia is anime -Hilary while Nobliss is Anime-Soros.

Kudelia manages to prove that she is way more helpful to Nobliss than he initially thought.

>>15133774
Julieta is a sociopath. She'd let him die without a care if she could get away with it.

>>15133779

No, I can't say they haven't lost or suffered at all. I can certainly say they've barely lost or suffered.

For a story about underdogs, you'd think the road would be rough, as opposed to having a couple of speed bumps in it.

>>15133767
I hate to get into semantics but Mika is a protagonist so "Winning because of Mika" is still winning. Im not sure what you mean by losing in Canada though. IIRC they murdered Carta and then defeated Ein with very few casualties.

>>15133738
Why is this faggot complaining? Nobody died on Gjallarhorn side either, except Carta. Seriously why are people still bitching about stakes for Tekkadan not being high when they backed out from killing Galigali?

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>>15133773
He's useful to take the actual risks of captaining a ship when Orga needs him to, otherwise Orga just sits around and makes increasingly retarded decisions. But yeah, he should be put out of his misery and die already since he's been doing nothing but trying to toss Orga's salad for an entire season and a half and he's never going to get it.

>>15133776
The fact that its actual glass an not just a monitor is the most retarded shit.

>>15133787

Ein died, Corlis died, Coral died, Crank died. Lot of Cs. Anyway.

Hell of a lot for named death for Gjallarhorn at this point anyhow.

>>15133787
Retards on here think Gjallarhorn are the "underdogs" and think the show writes adult oppression by making some of them be bad guys.

>>15133752
>director intervened

>director
>intervened

>director

Umm, director is who's running this gig, dumbass.

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>>15130008
This episode was bretty good.

>>15133787
Y'know besides, Ein, Gaelio (but not really), the entire main staff of the mars branch, most of Carta's subordinates, a whole bunch on the outskirts of edmondton, and I still feel like Im forgetting some.

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I did like the way Iok was shown to be cowering when he was bracing for impact. It was just a funny piece of animation. Why did they show that brown girl getting trapped in? I got confused by all of the explosion shit, so was an entire transport ship of the Turbines blown up?

Also Julietta looked pathetic in this episode, it's an obvious catalyst for her going Ein and going insane.

>>15133795
All of which are equivalents to Tekkadan's "nameless soldiers" who die in spades.
Ein lives inside Vidar.
No meaningful loss beside Carta. Fuck you.

>>15133797

Yeah, no shit.

Mari Okada and the writing staff originally penned a bloodier conclusion, but lo and behold, Nagai wagged his finger and said no.

He said no to a lot of things that would make this show a lot more interesting, actually.

>>15133786
They were getting destroyed trying to get into Edmonton and only prevailed when Eugene showed up with reinforcements. Then they took heavy losses again when the brush war started.

I know Mika's a protagonist, but they've literally gone out of their way to tell us that not only are they straight up elite because of the VJ, but the people they fight are incompetent as well. Nevermind that Gundams, especially Barbatos and Mika are ridiculously beyond other mobile suits.

>>15133808
Yeah, iirc they couldn't even get past the bridge until Eugene came in.

>>15133805
She didn't plan shit, the show's storyline has been literally completed before she even got hooked up with this gig. Stop peddling this wild speculation, it's getting out of hand.

>>15133805
I don't know why they do not want to set the internet hate machine on high.

Probably Iok's VA also had it with the character.

>>15133803

The ship was rapidly losing oxygen. Didnt you see the floating corpses of the bridge bunnies

>>15133805

And this season shown much more significant losses to Tekkadan

>>15133803
That girl got locked out. There was decompression and the doors shut before she could get through.

Her ship was later destroyed, if she survived being spaced. And then several of the life boats as well.

>>15133808
And thats the whole problem, isnt it? If the underdog always comes out on top, even if its due to just one person, are they still the underdogs. Also youre right about the Edmonton thing, it just didnt really stick with me because they didnt show it for very long and only showed the results, but they still did show the results in a pretty dramatic way.

>>15133815
So wait, if Iok committed all of what constitutes as a war crime, doesn't McGillis now have pretext to go to war against Rustal or at least remove these people from power?

>>15133745
>Of course, as we find out, Carta's incompetency comes from her being trained to fight mobile armors, not mobile suits, and not knowing any better while Iok's incompetency comes from genuinely jusy being a petty child with too much power and very little regard for his subordinates. But yeah, I personally liked Carta, and seeing how Iok's handled, Im kind of glad she went out while she was still endearing instead of turning into what he is.
>>15133755
>I always felt bad for her. She was an idiot, but she was still just doing her job. Iok has repeatedly gone out of his way to fuck things up and get people killed for his own ego.
Carta wasn't an idiot or even that bad of an MS Pilot, she was just too damn prideful for her own good and didn't cut her losses after Makanai's Island.

Of course you're going to get stomped if you try to 1v1 challenge the murder manlet who only needed a couple of buddies to shut down YOUR ENTIRE INVASION FLEET!

>>15133763
>So as for Mcgillis's allies.
>My theory is that the allies are members of Loks own fleet. the same people who used the illegal machinery and also 'admitted' that they didn't see the hammerhead signal any flares or calling for surrender or talking.
>Doing this would definitely fuck up Iok royally in Gallahorn when they present Mcgillis the evidence needed to bring more shame to Iok and also the members of the Arinhood fleet that took part in the massacre.
>So if Mcgillis did have allies who allowed Iok to do as it pleased in the meaning of screwing him and Rustal later, it would also drive the eventual wedge between Orga and Mcgillis if Orga ever found out that Mcgillis intentionally did nothing to help even though he said he would, since it would be the same as helping Iok to kill Naze to further Mcgillis's own ambitions instead of sabotaging Ioks workings to save Naze like Orga would of wanted.
This would not surprise me...

>>15133783
>Julieta is a sociopath.
Did you catch her line about feeling relieved?

>>15133752

You're so fucking clueless you think that the writers killing off characters is going to make IBO better so you can root for the 'underdog' protagonist faction.

I didn't even understand why you needed death so much but that's the core of your fucking argument right there.

>>15133816
Yes? Did you not see Gjallarhorn annihilate the Hammerhead with their huge fleet and illegal weapons?

They've got three gundams and a handful of elite pilots in mobile suits to go against Gjallarhorn's elite.

>>15133802
Nobody gives shit about characters who only exist by their function and are replaceable easier than McGillis' fuckboys.

>>15133818
And, if he is in fact entrapping them all, doesnt that make him the biggest sleazeboy? (Ignoring toddler marriage already putting him way up there on the slime-o-meter)

>>15133818
Yes. I said that earlier this thread.

Iok has fucked over Rustal and he has no fucking clue. I imagine he'll be personally killed for it after bragging about it to Rustal.

>>15133824
Sociopaths have feelings, they just done care about others that aren't important to them.

Even if she ain't, she's still fucking off in a very big way.

At first I thought their using vidar's burst sabers as bullet. Glad to see the monkey graze ins space. Hyakuren is the teiwaz ms that didn't make an appearance

>>15133829
If he is entrapping them all and he has men on the inside of Iok's operations, I will genuinely be impressed with him. But yeah, it makes him more of a dick.

>>15133831
I am genuinely interested to see the fall out of this, I hate that I could give 0 shits about Naze's funeral or Orga crying and saying "aniki..." over it.

>>15132167
Turning loli marriage legal

>>15133827
Then maybe they should show us that with something that actually affects Tekkedan. Look, I get that they ARE the underdog and they ARE comparatively small, but I dont really feel like weve been shown that, directly in a way that makes it seem believable. Im probably just nitpicking too much, and this is probably just me, and a lot of people seem to really enjoy the show. It's just my take on the whole thing and I just dont like the way theyve handled the underdog angle.

>>15133831

Rustal probably knew there was a looming cpnflict with McGillis and will say "Well it canf be helped anymore. Vidar, deploy and Crush Tekkadan"

>>15133829
McGillis didn't do this, Iok did. The whole thing was a gambit to lure out Tekkadan and it failed, but Iok was too stupid too back off when it didn't work.

McGillis is crafty enough to exploit this, but Iok practically gifted this to him.

>>15133838
My only hope is that >>15133762
this scene is about Jasley being at the funeral and maybe some incriminating shit. It'd be interesting to see Orga act on his own. In the December issue that was basically Orga and Eugene focused of Animage AND the event that happened yesterday we had Orga piloting an MS brought up and that it would come into the show so he's definitely going to calculate revenge. But will they go after Rustal and Vidar or be satisfied with Iok and Julietta?

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It's time for the reformation.

>>15133816
Tekkadan are not undedogs anon. They are not meant to be underdogs anymore. Your entire argument is a fucking strawman because you keep insisting the show aims to show this and that, while in fact, it does not aim to show what you claim it does.

I feel bad for Julietta, she keeps getting dragged along for Iok's shitshow and she might die (or worse) because she has to work for an intolerable manchild.

>>15133843
Right, but Rustal's entire strategy was to undermine McGillis and isolate him from power before he could strike. Now Iok just did that to him instead.

McGillis is going to summon the Gjallarhorn council or even the world leaders and get them to declare Rustal an outlaw. First he fabricates a revolution on the Dort Colonies, now he's using forbidden weapons - clearly he can't be trusted.

>>15133388
Tomino a hack. But stilhate becuase killing the best bron in Gundam Victory
>>15133389
LAfter and will kill Lok. Orga and mika that mafia faggot.

>>15133853
Julietta got schooled this episode.

>>15133852
But I was responding to a post saying that they were the underdogs?

>>15133829
>And, if he is in fact entrapping them all, doesnt that make him the biggest sleazeboy? (Ignoring toddler marriage already putting him way up there on the slime-o-meter)
>>15133831
>Iok has fucked over Rustal and he has no fucking clue. I imagine he'll be personally killed for it after bragging about it to Rustal.
>>15133838
>If he is entrapping them all and he has men on the inside of Iok's operations, I will genuinely be impressed with him. But yeah, it makes him more of a dick.
>I am genuinely interested to see the fall out of this, I hate that I could give 0 shits about Naze's funeral or Orga crying and saying "aniki..." over it.
Again, I really wouldn't put it pass McGillis, as a lowly Inspector he already had the ground work in place to help Tekkadan and Kudelia get through from Dort to Earth and create the Graze Ein in order to enact his rise to power, no doubt he would have gone further since then.

>>15133833
>Sociopaths have feelings, they just done care about others that aren't important to them.
>Even if she ain't, she's still fucking off in a very big way.
Well YEAH, Julieta is damaged goods, but that's not the significance of that line...
She was relieved Baka Iok was actually able to do something to take out the pilot she could not, even if it was an extremely risky move that nearly got her killed.

>>15133861
Except it was Iok's intention to entrap Tekkadan by implication. It failed, and he only compounded the failure with his actions against the Turbines.

>>15133855

This was his preferred method because it is safer. But Rustal isnt afraid of getting his hands dirty if push went to shove

>>15130008

It's weird, but this show increasingly makes me root for Gjallarhorn. Like, it's not fun if the bad guys are incompetent, and Gundam tends to have horribly incompetent enemy factions.

Why didn't Shino use his own Dainsleif to shoot back? Can't use it in space because he doesn't have anything to latch on to?

>>15131838
>>15131734

Yeah, I wish there were more casualties. The invulnerability of the characters is frustrating. You sincerely don't need any of these assholes, so kill them off. If this is supposed to be the grim n' gritty gundam, there should be people dying often.

Did anyone die in the Mobile Armor fight?

>>15133879
Dainsleif refers to the armor-piercing shell, not Flauros' long cannons.

>>15133882
Ah fuck, I see.

>>15133805
Bloodier conclusions doesn't make it better you edgelord.

>>15133339

It ain't difficult, Iok has the advantage in every way. Just use it - For once, he had the right idea.

>>15133339
Its the one thing that Iok did that made sense.

>>15133883
Chocoman already explained it during the previous episode.

>>15133882
Its the same cannon different projectile.

>>15133850
we trump now :DDD

>>15133730
He's even worse than Mohammed

>>15133868
>Except it was Iok's intention to entrap Tekkadan by implication. It failed, and he only compounded the failure with his actions against the Turbines.
True, but he didn't need to go to the extra length of using the illegal ammo, his fleet had every advantage anyways over the Turbines and killing them off TOO QUICKLY would have left nothing for Tekkadan to get into a fight over.

If any one of his subordinates would have actually put forward any qualms, I wouldn't doubt Iok would have chickened out.

Holy shit, I need HG of Graze Dainsleif and this purple Hloekk Graze with ammo.
This was so fucking badass, hope it will be in MS Option set 10(option set 9 is conversion parts for other MSes so why not)

But I wouldn't be mad if option set 10 had awesomer option shit for 3 new Gundams(Rex, Bael and new Kimaris), or stuff for Helmwige, since it has holes in arms. Some Fuckhuge shield maybe? And this cannon in last ep for Gusion Rebake was also cool.
seriously fuck IBo for making tons of awesome shit and using it once, sometimes not even making a kit

>>15133853
She's the one who volunteered to join this specific shitshow, dude.

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I have say the new OP is growing on me like Survivor did, still the worst out of the 4 tho.

That one was pretty good. Now I'm fucking mad becuase they could have made the first season a lot better.

>>15133794

That because Iok intentionally chose not to convert the ship into combat mode. One of the bridge crew called him out on it, but he was confident that they were going to win.

>>15133818

Well, Iok's fleet is part of the Arianrhod fleet, which is ultimately headed by Rustal. It's pretty obvious that McGillis let Teiwaz be destroyed in order to get damning evidence of Iok's misuse of those rail guns.

With the way the show is going, I think the sequence of events in the next couple of episodes is gonna be something like this:

McGillis leaks news of Iok's use of railguns > Rustal lets Iok's head roll > Tekkadan finds out McGillis used Teiwaz as bait > Orga is torn between continuing his allegiance with McGillis or ending it.

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>it is a gunpla advertising episode for a kit released a year ago

I didn't expect that.

>>15133636
Lok is such a terrible villain that any event he's associated with turns to shit. How can I take anything seriously with this joke character around?

>>15133570
Still got killed in battle.

>>15133825
Because he's edgy

So let me get this straight.

On one side, you have Iok. He plants forbidden weaponry on a Turbines ship just so he can legitimize blowing them to bits. Then, he proceeds to use said illegal weaponry in full force himself. Ignoring multiple calls for ceasefire and surrender in the process.

On the other hand, you have Orga, who is told in no uncertain terms that he should stay out of this or else he'll be charged with attacking the legitimate government and helping an outlawed organization. He proceeds to send three pilots in who immediately begin to attack the legitimate government on arrival.

...it's going to lack any sort of repercussions for Tekkadan simply because Iok managed to out-retard Orga, isn't it?

>>15133937
Why would Tekkadan be mad at him? He literally told them that he couldn't legally interfere and that it was a trap. He didn't know Iok would go full retard anyway.

This isn't an elaborate Xanatos gambit, it's Iok being stupid as fuck.

Are there any legitimately good people in IBO?

>>15133953
Orga is going to get McMurdured by McMurdo probably, but they can't implicate Tekkadan without admitting they slaughtered civilians.

Remember too that Iok probably destroyed whatever evidence he supposedly had on the Turbines when he annihilated them.

>>15133937
>McGillis let Teiwaz be destroyed in order to get damning evidence of Iok's misuse of those rail guns.

That makes no sense.
How is someone supposed to know Iok would fire banned weapon towards civilians?

>>15133636
He's a plot device.

They needed to do everything to make Naze look heroic, if you look at his background he is a criminal, he did work against Gjallarhorn and he sent his women in disguise to help Tekkadan.

Basically everything Gjallarhorn does has to be overboard or it makes the heroes look bad.

Hell they aren't the first ones to fire when their opponents were trying to talk.

>>15133958
Kudelia and Atra are unambiguously good. Especially Kudelia.

>>15133962
Kudelia wanted a war for money.

>>15133961
Wow, an organization that started the series off as corrupt, slaughtering children, and getting their own men killed in the first episode being retarded.

Who could've guessed it.

>>15133963
The fuck are you talking about? She wanted Arbrau to ease up on their economic policies so people could work and eat. That's all.