The king is back. https://youtu.be/sJuiTw6nk7A

Smells like Rockman Dash to me

>>15104364
>No judeo christian imagery
>No mecha to pilot
>Story seems to be even more standard JRPG than the fucking first Xenoblade

I don't want it.

>>15104364
The character designs are so fucking bad

>>15104364

i was hype until i realized its a sequel to chronicles and not x

>>15104364
>Sequel to Chronicles and not X
>No more fucking Sawano

I'm fucking pleased.

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>>15104422
Ultra-generic anime girls are better than more potatoes.

>>15104364

dropped at that shitty protag design and moe art style

>>15104364
>king

I know nintendofags are delusional but you can't be serious

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>>15104443
You know they can just go get CHOCO if they want its not like he's up to anything.

Or try to adapt Kunihiko Tanaka shit so it doesn't look like ass, why is that so hard for them?

>>15104420
>No judeo christian imagery
Come on, there is Zohar right on the Monado this time.

>>15104480
That's like potatoes hair clips just a reference.

>>15104485

Once is an accident, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action.

Two different armored waifs have Zohar shaped elements in their armor, as well as the not-Monado.

Either there's something, or their designer actually lost his/her mind.

>>15104555
>or their designer actually lost his/her mind.

because we all know how sane JRPG character designers are

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character design is meh, but as long actual design of everything else will be good, I don't mind.
Locations seem on point, what I wonder now is equipment, armour and such.

>>15104556

They're incredibly sane, that's actually the problem. They try to follow trends, not understanding that design is not linear.

Belt= boring
extra belts = visual interest
many belts = clusterfuck

Replace with zippers, ribbons... ETC.

The Zohar design is not iconic, visually striking or recognizable in their current audience: It's there for a reason.

>>15104364
>a direct sequel

uh-huh...

what could possibly go wrong here?

>>15104566
Isn't it a completely new world?

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>No mechs in the trailer, not even a mechon lookalike.
Oh, okay.

>>15104364
The cast looks too young to be appealing, but at the same time a coming of age story with an almost grim tone at times could make for a nice contrast against the innocent anime art style.

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>>15104605
I don't think they'll miss on mechs, question is will they be pilotable or not. They seem to have technology over there
but considering trailer - probably not as huge of a game point as it was in X.

>>15104608
I don't know, the world doesn't seem built with mech size in mind, or at least that city doesn't, unlike in XCX.

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>>15104611
game has mounts, so I guess huge mechs are out of questions, maximum we can hope for is decent sized power armour.
Anyway, considering it's monolithsoft, we have a chance of some streams and more game footage before game release.
I just wish they won't fuck up gameplay

>>15104475
nice design

>>15104608
>>15104612
I wouldn't expect pilotable mecha in this game, no. XCX might as well be considered a different series despite keeping certain gameplay elements intact from XC. They seem to have exaggerated the fantasy elements in XC2 compared to the first, possibly to further distinguish itself from XCX (which makes sense if they want to have XCX2 keep the heavier sci-fi themes I guess).

Considering it follows after the first XC I'm expecting a more diverse party than we saw in XCX (focuses on more than just a main trio, everyone gets unique weapons and skills, etc) and a more engaging main story. Guessing it takes place a couple hundred years after the first game in the world >>15104596 mentioned. Which in itself could be interesting since we get to learn what sort of world that they made of it.

Kinda hoping that they let NoE handle the translation duties again though. British VAs was one of my favourite things about the first game. Wouldn't mind another fresh cast not picked out from the same pool of VAs we hear in everything.

No gods here, only Monado.

>>15105215
Pilotable mecha should be always expected.
each game which doesn't deliver on that is disappointing game
I want dual audio and lack of fucking around with terms (tho they already started)

>>15104433
>>15104439
these.
hopefully X gets the following Xenoblade game
generic scifi-fantasy should be left to Square Enix since they do it well enough

>>15105410
>generic scifi-fantasy should be left to Square Enix since they do it well enough
what? Square can't do shit, just look at FFXV
X was bloody great and was best sci-fi jrpg out of past decade

>>15105417
SE nailed the atmosphere of scifi-fantasy with XV and XIII and arguably before then
we're not really talking about the actual gameplay and design here

>>15105425
they nailed "totally not american countryside" style /atmosphere thing of FFXV, I give them that.
but that's about it.
desings wise (armor, enemies, world), X is superiour in every respect

>>15105432
nigger, this isn't a discussion between XCX and XV
FF is in the same genre as Xenoblade Chronicles and XC2 (scifi-fantasy)
Xenoblade Chronicles X is in the genre of (hard) sci-fi
if you're going to be like that, hightail it back to /v/

>>15104439
oh wait, never mind.
I read that as
>I'm fucking pissed
fuck you

Yeah but it's stuck on the Switch.
I used to love Nintendo but...holy shit Im not touching a Switch.

It wasn't looking good before, but paid online is a deal breaker.

>>15105456
It has paid online?

Wow, that's just. Well I'm laffin.

>>15104555
>or their designer actually lost his/her mind.

If you've seen his other work you'd know that he just likes glowing green bits.

>>15105441
... fuck, I misread few parts of your posts now that I reread them again. 1AM here, lack of concetration, sorry
For some reason I thought you compared X sci-fi to Square one.
Then I do agree that Square games get nice balance between Sci-Fi and Fantasy, a bit better than XC. But I rarely was sold on actual main designs of those games, Square mostly does that fusion via attention to secondary detail, which don't get deserved attention more often than not.
>if you're going to be like that, hightail it back to /v/
no

>>15105456
>>15105460
Not entirely surprising though. Nintendo has been pretty decent about pricing on other things like DLC in a lot of cases though so I'm hoping the trend continues. I could live with $20~$30 for a year compared to the $50~$70 the other two are asking.

>>15105471
still not enough value tho, VC game you can't even keep and few deals, that's it.
but yeah, I hope it's cheap. And that account system doesn't suck.
sooner or later gotta spend money on PS+ for Gundam Versus, that's more irritating

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>>15105456
still no got damn Metroid either
it's like the don't want the /m/ audience

>>15105456

The price point for the Switch is really bad at 300$.

Even Bloomberg is making a big deal of it.

>>15105456
>needing paid online when you can just LAN it up

I do agree that it's kinda stupid of them to do it, the earlier online offerings haven't been the best they could be, and unless the trial period shows good results I don't see how a price tag is going to make it better unless you really believe in the philosophy of "you get what you pay for."

If anything, I'm more concerned about the low end of their battery life estimate, and that there hasn't been much talk about how well the device is supposed to perform in handheld mode. I'm a big fan of untethered gaming, but if it ends up jank then I'm going to wait a year for the inevitable revision.

>>15105460
Not only that, but you have to use your phone for social interactions.

>>15105502
>I'm a big fan of untethered gaming, but if it ends up jank then I'm going to wait a year for the inevitable revision.

See, I'm the same but that's the reason I don't like the Switch. See, I like a handheld to be durable, portable, and have decent battery life.
What we've seen shows that this is not the game the Switch is going to be playing(perhaps better for taking around town, but not on long trips).

Hopefully they come out with a successor unit to the 3DS, because after being carried by handheld sales this is spitting in the faces of handheld fans.

>>15105460

Zelda is a launch title but...no Mario.
No Mario on a Nintendo launch is almost unheard of.

>>15105533
You mean to like message people, over their service? What?

Jesus christ anytime Nintendo has a chance to make a console good they fuck it up ever since the Gamecube. I mean I don't hate Nintendo (love my 3DS, and I grew up with a SNES, and Gamecube) but damn that's stupid when literally every other console on the market has the social aspect...built into the system it's self. I mean a companion app is fine but shit.

>>15105498
There better fucking be a new Metroid game. They can take a break from jerking off Link for a minute.

>>15105544
Don't worry, I'm sure there'll be a Federation Force sequel, maybe even Another M!

>>15105498
On the other hand though, Bomberman is back again. I'm still pissed at Konami for lots of things, but it's a good step.

>>15105537
I'm sure someone commuted sudoku for that already.

>>15105537
Game Cube had Luigi's Mansion, but no Mario.

>>15105534
It's mostly that it fills this gap that... I guess you could relate it to the gaming laptop.

I mean yes gaymen craptops are a marketing ploy and you're better off spending your money on a rig you can keep up to date, but a strong enough media laptop gets you a few years of titles (maybe some more provided devs do good optimization work) and you can take it with you without having to deal with the task of boxing up a tower, monitor, accessories, etc.

And I don't think it's going to interfere with the 3DS or a potential successor model unless Nintendo opts to migrate all its IPs to the device, it comes off more like a WiiU 2.0 more than anything else. I honestly want to know if there's any plans for making Switch and 3DS able to interact with one another.

I don't really care that it's paid online, since I don't play games online anyways, nor do I care about the battery life of the controller, since while I will be using it outside on the bus or whatever occasionally I'll mostly be using it to play for an hour in bed or while my nieces and nephew use the TV, so even 2 hours of life is fine to me. What does concern me though is how good is Nintendo's virtual console and eshop? I haven't got a Wii U or 3DS so I've never used either to personally know. The Switch launch line up is looking weak though, Breath of the Wild aside, and there's not even much in the way of offerings. If I can buy one, go home and then immediately download the Metroid Prime trilogy, Wind Waker HD or something I missed on the Wii U though it alleviates that concern a good bit.

>>15104364
This looks like a "Tales of" game.
I look forward to the shitty anime adaptation.

>>15105752
I wouldn't mind an anime adaptation of the first Xenoblade. Or even OVAs about various BLADE teams' adventures on Mira.

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>>15105498

They must keep some stuff for E3.

>>15105725
>>then immediately download the Metroid Prime trilogy, Wind Waker HD or something I missed on the Wii U

Don't forget about the probable event of Super Smash Bros Melee appearing in the Virtual Console. That could be big for some people.

>>15105544

Kirby got a game every few years even when he was largely unrecognised (at least in the Anglosphere), but he seems to have taken off for Ninty in the last few years and they've stepped up on his games. If he can become a big hitter for them then there's hope for Samus yet. She'll still need one popular title to be made at some point, but they'll almost certainly dust off the title during the next few years just to mine nostalgia, keep the franchise going and in looking for some new old stuff to give people.

>>15105841

All those kinds of games are likely to be available digital only on the estore then?

How good was Xenoblade Chronicles X?

>>15105572
>And I don't think it's going to interfere with the 3DS or a potential successor model unless Nintendo opts to migrate all its IPs to the device, it comes off more like a WiiU 2.0 more than anything else. I honestly want to know if there's any plans for making Switch and 3DS able to interact with one another.

This seems to be the case, especially with rumons of pokemon Sun/Moon's third version being Switch exclusive. The general consensus seems to be that consolidation of titles is the way to go, and a handheld would be redundant with the Switch(and the more we see of the Switch, the less a handheld we find it to be...)

They said it wouldn't replace the 3DS, but they also said the DS wouldnt replace he GBA back in the day. Things aren't looking good.

>>15105858

It basically depends on how well the Switch does I'd imagine. It it sells like hotcakes and proves to Nintendo that people like the concept of combining home and handheld consoles then it'll replace the 3DS, even if it does't have it's numbers, since further iterations will only be easier to make at an appealing pricepoint. If it crashes and burns then they'll just leave it behind and keep making handheld only devices since that's where a lot of their stock is these days. Though they may transition more to mobile phone stuff rather than purely handheld consoles in the future regardless. It's easy enough to imagine that if the Switch takes off they'll consolidate home and handheld consoles in to one and keep a two pronged approach to gaming, only instead of being (1) home consoles and (2) handheld consoles it'll be (1) consoles and (2) phones.

>>15105855
side quests and world exploration was fun, the main story is only good for the battle at NLA, and the last 1 or 2 chapters.

>>15105498
Federation Force blatantly foreshadowed events for a mainline Metroid game at the end, along with Nintendo saying Retro is working on a special project. Pretty damn sure we just gotta wait.

>>15105858
To be fair the DS was 100% redundant to the GBA's GBA gameplaying side... excepting titles expecting a link cable. By the time the Micro was conceived that platform was as good as dead. It only really got bad with the DSi canning GBA support physically (the hardware supposedly still exists inherently within the DS architecture that persists to this day in the 3ds, though?)

The Switch feels more the platform of choice for console ports of traditionally handheld properties as it can still capture aspects of the portable experience but with less of the "literally dry humping the 3ds' upper technical limitations" stuff that we're seeing in stuff like current-gen pokemon.

>>15105876
I expect the phone elements to flop whereas the two prong strategy will continue.

There's still uses for a twin screen setup, and if a phone can't be the second screen adequately enough via first party implementation, then stick to what works: DS form factor.

>>15105944

> stick to what works

Nintendo doesn't seem to care for that idea. If they did they wouldn't have made the DS or 3DS, since the Game Boy form worked. Or the Wii for that matter. They'd make a powerhouse console akin to the Sony and Microsoft outings and compete with them for market share. Instead they have decent graphics that are servicable but obviously worse than their competitors and compete for attention using controls, home grown IPs and a focus on fun gameplay.

Also, I'm not really sure how the phone elements can flop. Almost everyone already has a phone, so the hardware element can be skipped entirely and they have a huge market to aim at. Unless they completely flub the marketing or make a dozen games on the trot that are completely shit then they're basically guaranteed to do well.

porn of the fuckboy when

>>15105977
Poor utilization is one, the other could be just not attracting a demographic that cares to use their phone with their Switch.

Ninty seems to be banking on it considering their joint effort with DeNA back when the NX was a mere whisper, but I have my doubts the Nintendo gimmick magic can work, especially between the nonstandardized clusterfuck that is the many breeds of Android platform and the thoroughly closed iOS platform.

I don't trust it.

>>15106005

I'm not speaking to using a mobile phone as part of a Switch game, I'm speaking of purely mobile phone games. Games like Pokemon Go and Mario Run that are played purely on your mobile (if you can classify Pokemon Go as a game) and have no integration with another platform.

>>15106019
Well that's it's own mess, I heard things about Run failing, and Go is just a poor man's Ingress clone.

I don't think it's sustainable.

>>15106031

You don't think mobile phone games are sustainable? They're about as volatile as console games. A single game may only have a few years staying power, but the platform itself is stable and there have been games on phones for over 15 years at this point. Maybe Nintendo should give up on those and go back to making card games, those are obviously more stable.

>>15106042
I think the market's oversaturated, most of it is low quality if not ripoffs (I have gotten youtube ads for some sort of chinese bootleg SRW and I'm just counting the days until someone takes legal action), and there's little in the way of compelling killer apps past Hearthstone.

At least, that's my sentiment.

Incidentally, card games aren't exactly stable in Japan, the market is incredibly cutthroat over there. Magic: the Gathering, the reigning old fart of cardboard crack, can't even really secure good footing, they had to invent an entire new format just to appeal to the bizarro supply issues that are endemic to the Japanese MTG scene, and while that's happening you have YuGiOh repeatedly breaking its own meta and about 3 new flavor of the month card games coming out of nowhere.

It's a fucking mess. At least they still get Duel Masters, lucky bastards.

>>15106103

A over-saturated market rife with low quality titles many of which are ripoffs of other games describes most platforms, not just mobile phones. You could apply it to more than just games frankly, given Sturgeon's Law (90% of anything is crap). TV, movies, music, books, comics. Anything really. Also, I didn't mean all card games with Nintendo, I just meant making regular playing cards. That's stable. It might not be hugely profitable, but it's stable and that's what you were speaking to.

>>15106124
Just because it describes other platforms doesn't make it any better, and quite frankly the idea of a second videogame crash has been floated around in recent years.

Besides, if you wanted stable, you don't have to pull a total withdrawal like you describe; just follow lock step with Sony and Microsoft and use the common architecture of the current generation.

We're already approaching a one-engine industry with the way Japanese devs have fallen in love with UE4.

At any rate, it's largely out of my control, I have to accept that there's a market for mobile phone games, no matter how much I don't fit that market. And Nintendo will capitalize on it in some fashion, no matter how much I feel it's stupid.

I would be lying to myself if I said I didn't want Nintendo to come up with a gaming phone of their own, though. Maybe they could find the sweetspot between the two niches, getting market share from both without alienating either.

>>15105725
More than half of everything good on the Wii U not getting ported as part of the day one launch line is going to hut it.

>>15106152

It's not about being better anon, since I wasn't trying to prove Nintendo made better mobile phone games or that the mobile phone market was superior - it's about stability of economy despite how oversaturated the market is. Mobile phone games are a thing. They've been a thing nearly as long as mobile phones have really, and are going to keep being a thing. Even if the market crashes it'll just come back in much the same way, as all markets that crash do after a few years. Acting like it's more volatile than the regular games market is just being silly really.

You can certainly feel it's stupid, and to a degree I agree with you, since the platform as it is right now encourages cheap, disposable games that are nothing but money sinks. That's not really any different than the arcades of gaming's youth though. Eventually mobile phones (or their successors, since there's no way a new control system of some kind isn't going to surpass small touch screens) are going to grow out of that though, and then the games will gear more toward plot or whatever over simple gameplay compatible with touch screens.

>>15106169

> hut it

Spelling mistake? I ask because I assume it is, but I've no idea what you might have originally meant.

>>15106208
hurt it, numbnuts

It being a sequel to Chronicles and not X is good. Chronicles had a great world with fantastic characters, X was very lackluster in that part, the only character I even remember is the lion man thing.

Hope robots are in.

>>15106208
It's going to hut it.

Right in the pizza.

>>15106216

Most of the good games appear to be available for digital download. Which will probably work with the Switch as well as the WiiU. They're not official launch titles, since they're not being spruced up or changed in any way and thus aren't being released, but they're still there.

>>15106223
I'm not him, btw
That was just a really simple typo and I'm not sure how you were confused.

>>15106228

Mostly because the word hurt isn't something I expected there, and still doesn't really seem to belong to me even after you've pointed it out.

>>15106223
>games appear to be available for digital download.

Nope Switch has no Wii U emulation.

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Is the Switch the most /m/ console ever?

>>15106293
No, out of all the games shown yesterday, only the new Mario game had a robot in it.

>>15106300
I didn't know Mario was in the Bomberman game.

>>15106293
The Joy-Con™ really makes me think of useless Kamen Rider belt collectibles so I guess it is.

>>15106293
No, I'm pretty sure it's the Genesis with its Getter Tower of Babel

>>15106313
>even comes in various colors
>surely gimmick joycons will be made as well to enhance controller functionality

Fucking W up in this shit.

>>15106323
Genesis is Dark Gundam cheating at best, with bits and pieces of other things.

Switch actually uses the sum of its own parts to transform its functionality.

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>>15106327
>Implying there won't be Gashat-themed Joy-Cons

>>15106281

Does it have any emulation? If I can't play any Gamecube or Wii games then the console will seem very paltry.

>>15106342
If you pay for online, you'll get either an NES or an SNES game to play for a month, then you can't play it anymore and it gets replaced with a different NES/SNES game for another month.

>>15106356

So you can presumably just buy NES and SNES games and own them on the VC? But not anything for the N64 through WiiU? That blows.

>>15106361
We don't know, but it'd be difficult to believe that they don't have a VC library planned that gets up to Gamecube.

>>15106366

No Wii/WiiU emulation is a massive blow to the console for me. Playing a lot of the games I missed on those consoles, like the Donkey Kong games, Xenoblade games, Bayonetta 2 was one of the main draws to getting a Switch. Not being able to play them, Wind Waker HD, the Metroid Prime games and so on almost kills my interest in the console. I could care less about online payments or battery life since they're not things that'll really affect me. No backwards compatibility/Wii and WiiU emulation though? Killer.

>>15106421
I don't see the Switch getting Wii U emulation ever the Switch has significantly different chip architecture to the Wii U and isn't particularly powerful (less output then the Xbone) so it can't just brute force good performance on a emulator. Wii U games are probably only getting on the Switch as proper ports.

>>15106447
The Wii U wasn't exactly a powerhouse in its own right either, nor the Wii before it.

In fact, hardware power hasn't been a major thing for Nintendo for quite a while.

The bigger limitation would be the interfaces. Stuff like how WiiU could have DS games in its VC library because it can do a ghetto impression of a dual screen system but the Switch won't be able to unless some kind of to-TV projection module is introduced to do the reverse of the WiiU tablet's arrangement.

Considering the Joycon are essentially a next generation Wiimote, I would be comfortable betting on Wii ports in the near future for Switch.

Skyward Sword Remastered

>>15106421
WONDERFUL 101

>>15106498

Why would the Switch not be capable of displaying a different image on the TV than on its own screen? Seems like something that would be straight forward enough.

>>15106521
Because you have to undock it to have the screen in your hands, and when undocked it's in portable mode, no connection to the tv anymore.

You'd need some kind of filler device to bridge the two and simulate the WiiU, I reckon.

>>15106523
Actually come to think of it a WiiU module would be a cool way to rectify things. Just have a Switch-sized brick that acts as a disc reader for the device, I dunno.

And in that regard the Switch could become a build-your-own-WiiU.

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>>15105850
>>All those kinds of games are likely to be available digital only on the estore then?

You mean Virtual Console games? Yeah, apparently, up to Gamecube games are going to be on the VC/eShop.

>>15106523

All you'd need is some kind of wireless receiver in the dock, no?

>>15106541
You'd probably want some actual hardware to take some of the computational load off of the Switch tablet itself.

But I'm no expert on the technological minutiae of how these things work.

>>15106547

I can see how that'd be a good idea if the second screen was displaying high quality, dynamic action. Most of the time the second DS screen is used for maps, inventory, puzzles and other simpler, static stuff that wouldn't require much more power beyond displaying it in the first place.

>>15106561

Yeah but the times when that isn't the case?

You'll be glad you have a big ass tablet to play Trauma Center on.

Granted what I had in mind was actually the issue of how Wonderful 101 would work on a non-WiiU platform, since as I recall the gameplay is asymmetrical between TV and tablet.

>>15106576

Doesn't the top screen in Trauma Center display scores, timers and other miscellany? I don't know about Wonderful 101 since I never played it, but if the system is literally incapable of working correctly with a limited number of titles then they simply make those exceptions and not sell them as Switch compatible.

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>>15104364
>Return to a Xenoblade sci-fantasy setting
Guys, will we befinally getting organic mecha?
I would love to see something King Gainer/Nirvash esque appear in a Takahashi game.

>>15106421
>I could care less
Then why don't you?

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>>15106666
No. They're going to get rid of mechs all together except one android girl because mechs are always the first things cut.

>It's a "/v/ won't stay on their containment board" episode

Making toku threads on /v/ was a mistake.

>>15106795
But every Xenogame has had mecha, even the original Xenoblade had them, you just couldn't use them.

And going from the floating continents and MC's costume I think that "Sky pirate" is going to be a key part of the aesthetic.
And you know what could easily fit here? Mecha.

There's no way Takahashi isn't adding mecha in some way shape or form.

>>15105537
>No Mario on a Nintendo launch is almost unheard of.

At least it will be a guaranteed Holiday release

The swordfu is the waifu