We need more weird carriers
>recovery operations on that monstrosity
>>15091995
Why does Google hate Tuatha de Danaan so?
>>15094683
Google wasn't a Tessa fan, obvs. Probably realised Mao is the only real choice.
>>15091937
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk
>>15094728
Impractical as it is, it's definitely thecoolest.
>>15094724
For the win!
>>15092016
Urgh, I remember that anime. Something like i-333 or so
For some strange reason I still prefer "Arpeggio of Blue Steel" to it
>>15094683
I think it's the name, probably nobody bother using it's real name.
search for "Full Metal Panic submarine"
Carrier? Carrier has arrived.I miss this meme
>>15095583
Wonders what fiction this exist in tries google
google tells me its a mental image.......uh ok then
Still counts.
Cannot say it is "weird" as it is mainly 2 super carriers held together, but it is kinda cool.
>>15091937
im a jet AND carrier
fuck you
>>15100055
He must be a really tiny carrier. That or a huge jet.
Is there any carrier so big that it can carry other carriers?
>>15100093
Not only does his scale make no sense but he's afraid of heights and gets seasick.
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>>15100093
Size shift technology like Megatrons gun mode
>>15102247
Probably.
>>15095554
Sand crawlers are pretty darn cool.
>>15102247
Well for a certain value of carrier, I do believe you can deploy large cargohaulers off of carriers, and use those cargohaulers as a drone carrier for beehive shenanigans.
>>15091937
Do we really?
>>15103137
pretty cool
>>15102248
Well that fucking sucks for him, huh?
>>15102247
UNSC Infinity has 10 vertical hangers along its belly for carrying escort frigates, which themselves have full compliments of space fighters and drop ships so that technically counts.
>>15091937
Now I really want to know where that is from.
>>15094731
Carlos, I will drown you.
>>15092003
A fine choice, but Tessa seems younger here.
>>15091937
I'd like to see a ship like this pulling rescue/salvage operations in the depicted environment. Acid is also fine.
Something along the lines of recovering damaged machines/mechs and their pilots after a long, grueling battle that destroyed the environment around it.
We need a submarine carrier
And by that I mean a submarine that carry submarine.
>>15107300
I guess submarine 707 fits the bill...
>>15107425
I did watch that show
This picture >>15092016 come from it I think. A super super carrier where Jumbo jet can land on
>>15107709
that's not a carrier
>>15091937
>>15105587
RahXePhon?
>>15110142
I think the Rahxephon carrier was a trimaran, and had a center mas driver catapult...
>>15110120
Look lower right
>>15113177
Come on, Ptolomaios 1 was way more of a weird carrier than the 2.
Come on /m/, get your act together
>>15113309
I wish AC would come out to pc. This looks cool as fuck.
>>15091937
Wouldn't multi hull design be actually superior design from purely air operations point of view? Greater deck area, more stable, etc?
>>15095583
Most stupid design ever. As soon as the ship turns to it's broad side to engage with it's guns, the barrels would completely block off a landing strip.
>>15114056
That's why it has two!
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>>15114272
They'd better not cross the streams..... of aircraft.
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>>15114289
Carriers are cool, but battleships are cooler. And you know what's the coolest? AVIATION BATTLESHIPS!
>>15103147
Such a shame those DLCs are multiplayer only. I wanted more of that "desperate journey into the desert" atmosphere. Such a great game, homeworld world is the best.
>>15114639
>>15091937
mou sugoi Kaga-san
>>15114651
What the hell, she's tiny!
>>15114639
>Such a shame those DLCs are multiplayer only
Indeed, we don't expect them to pump out upgrade but as far as I know everything stopped on this game.
A shame, they hinted at wanting to upgrade the campaign. I would have loved to see the Kaaneph added even as a retcon
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>>15102248
They were probably so drunk when they designed and wrote Broadside.
>>15116539
What about a subterranean carrier?
That burrows through the ground but never goes up to surface, launches planes/mechas exclusively inside of tunnels and caves.
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>>15116553
What, like the terrordrome?
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>>15116504
For some reason I really like the Killerwhale
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>>15116483
She's a beaute, sir.
>>15095554
I want to see story about warfare with those things.
Sandcrawler carrier with pool flight deck makes no sense but its so unique and weird in cool way idea.
>>15117315
You are tempting me, making crazy story frame is kind of my thing
first try :
This is a world where the flora died (or cannot be planted) almost everywhere and without fertile soil and plant the whole damn planet turned into sand,
No need to say that sand make for pretty shitty landing zone.
Thing is : most resources are scarce, it's already hard to build foundation for building over kilometer of rand, so we don't want looong runway.
Thus, town are build near the coast, reserve hard rock & fertile soil for habitation, using the ocean as airport.
But if you try to cross the continent you'll have no water and you would have to add wheels on your airplanes.
So the obvious result is to use sandcrawler-carrier... WATER-carrier to create airfield in the desert. Since you have to defend them militarily you also need Water&Aircraft-carrier.
The standard military uniform areHawaiian shirt and swimsuit
>>15119234
expecting bit more...
>>15121403
Ok, have a couple I saved as reference in hopes of making a game about this someday. This thread is a goldmine for me.
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>>15121530
And I'm done.
Akitsushima is a seaplane tender, not a CA though, but I think it's cool.
Just saw that image and I'm thinking that the only things missing is a AIRCRAFT-CARRIER TRAIN
>>15119490
Thanks,
I'm not sure what's the craziest miniplot I laid out but this one ranked high
>>15122359
More like CARRIER BLIMP TRAIN
/n/ would love you
Though the above traveling cities are cool, remind me of the scifi story of a train city that ride the thermal expansion of rail on the surface of mercury to constantly stay in the twilight.
Or traction cities, battling each and consuming the loser, see municipal darwinism
>>15124088
>More like CARRIER BLIMP TRAIN
I'm impressed, have a SPACE ZEPPELIN CARRIER in turn (come from Iron Sky)
>Though the above traveling cities are cool, remind me of the scifi story of a train city that ride the thermal expansion of rail on the surface of mercury to constantly stay in the twilight.
That sound absolutely crazy, and I read the original "Snowpiercer" comics.
Staying in the twilight of Mercury wouldn't be too hard, the planet rotation is pretty slow, not tidally locked but slow.
Doing it with a while city sound ridiculously expensive but I could write a realistic-SF reason to do that
Wasn't there a story somewhere about Mecha City boarding each other and stuff?
>>15124585
> Mecha City
Tailenders?
>>15100045
I love Genocyber, captain of the carrier was pretty cool
>>15124626
Nah, frankly it was some obscure shit, maybe a visual novel. I would say a medieval fantasy style from memory. But at that point you may as well just look for another series which have traveling city, and carrier
hard modeNo Macross
>>15124654
>a medieval fantasy
Oh, Chrome Shelled Regios. It's not that obscure. Actually a pretty good anime, I remember likind it back when it was airing.
Googled it it's not what I remember, should have mentioned the fantastic city mecha FLY, also there's white stone pillar or something
Good luck finding itnext time I'll probably remember it had dancing tomato, frankly I might as well be confabulating
Anyway.
>King me! I carry so many MS I can't actually get them all out in time.
>>15124882
Eden's Bowy? Probably not, and I can't tell because I never seen it. But I'm actually kind of interested now. That was kind of reverse recommendation from you, so thanks I guess.
>>15125581
>Eden's Bowy?
At least one of us is actually learning about obscure show.
I'm afraid it's best you forget everything I said (there is no such anime, or the MIB will get you). Beside, If I DON'T remember it that much, chance are that it looked too shit for me to touch with a remotely operated arm.
>>15127884
> it looked too shit for me to touch with a remotely operated arm.
I watched a couple of episodes and it's not shit at all. Pretty good, actually, has a strong "oldschool japanese fantasy" feel to it. Interesting characters, setting, design. Good oldschool directing. Oh, and very good orchestral score.
It's charming, must be a classic among those who even know about it.Or maybe anything will look like a masterpiece of subtlety, good directing and clever writing after marathoning all seasons of ikkitousen.
>>15128699
For the sake of clarification, what was probably too shit to touch was the anime I couldn't remember if my life depended on it. Not the stuff you talk about that ring no bell to me.
>spoiler
Indeed, how can one experience joy without knowing what sadness is.or how to justify our shit taste in Mecha Harem Anime
I-401
World first and only Airplane carrier submarines.
It's quite interesting to know the technical trouble they had to overcome, like how to preheat the plane's oil inside the submarines so it could be launched as fast as possible and not leave the submarines vulnerable.
>>15124882
the origin version of the dolos type is huge. the configuration and proportions are the same, but what would have been ms launch bays, are so huge they hold musai ships instead. yeah. they scaled it up big time.
>>15133602
>giant turbine right in front of the landing strip
Real bright.
>>15135710
that's a MA
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>>15117248
What matters is what's on the inside
>>15136235
Can't it be both? Technically, it carries 150+ mobile suit sized drones and funnels.
>>15136204
It encourage pilot to not mess their landing
Beside, I think someone calculated that to carry the weight of this things the propeller would be vaporizing everything below worse than most villains laser-sat superweapon.
>>15100045
Gundam Wing (of all things) did this too--catamaran carriers, two Cold War-style supercarriers with mirrored towers.
>>15142495
They were in the TV series too, but I don't have a screencap.
>>15114248
Shit, someone beat me to it.
So, not /m/ really, but related to the thread.
>>15142524
It actually more /m/ than related to the topic
THIS is a carrier
>>15092016
>It's an aircraft carrier so big jumbo jets can land on it
>it's also a submarine too, apparently
>but it never actually goes underwater in the show.
I assume submarine 707 was supposed to be a lot longer than it actually was?
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>>15142574
Looking at the screenshots, art looks pretty meh. I suppose it was a very short-lived low-budget production from the start.
Absurdly giant carrier is the coolest thing ever though.
>>15142554
Hmm, god point, though the Claim Solis-class could carry some aircraft compliment...they just didn't make good use of them.
Floating Platform No. 1 Does Not Answer(German film, circa 1930)
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>>15142387
Those humongous things must stay in the air forever, right? I simply can't see how they could land and take off. It's impossible.
>>15145156
The one from Yukikaze was built in space if I remember.
I don't see a physical law that would prevent them to land (if we can build them in the first place). Plus bringing monster like that back into orbit would be out of question.
The practicality of the concept is shot anyway.
Even with nuclear reactor for unlimited flight time it would be impossible to defend.
I could build LASER into Airliner just to kill it and it would be more cost efficient.
>>15145207
They're actually well defended within the context of the setting, besides the JAM don't go out of their way to escalate the conflict to laser spam or anything.
Nukes, sure, but laser spam has so far been something only humans have done what with those Flip Knights and whatnot. And even so the attitude towards approaching a hostile Banshee has been "would rather not." It's all fun and games until the AA kicks in, and considering the level of automation that goes into the FAF's technology, if Banshee wants to swat something down, it's probably going to swat it down.
Anyway, considering both the FAF's mission (prevent JAM from crossing the Passageway) and Faerie's overall geography not being conducive to traditional naval carriers nor a ground-based equivalent, the solution of flexible force projection with which one can support a fixed collection of radially distributed air bases just ended up in the form of a massive airborne carrier. Two of them, even. And they're numbered III and IV, implying they weren't even the first of their kind.
Long story short it makes sense in context, and they don't use them Earthside as far as we know; the only carrier seen over there is a conventional seaborne one.
Yukikaze has a weird setting, but it's one that makes a bizarre sort of sense in context.
>>15142574
>but it never actually goes underwater in the show.
It did along with another mega carrier just like that one. We get to watch them submerge and surface once. Otherwise they do all of nothing beyond be set pieces for the OVA
But giant mega carrier also has a flaw the same exact flaw as the Death Star
>>15145285
>well defended
As anime logic goes surely. Realistically I know of no technology that would prevent taking down this air-base in a single hit be it hypersonic stealth missile or laser (a laser is weak but a plane is weaker) if given equal technologies.
From all I know of the movie the JAM purposefully toy with the humans to study them or something, they have technology vastly superior.
And that's not counting the bias we have for manned fighter. The (manned) carrier could have been carrying expendable drones who don't need runway and a base. With their level of technology it's clearly feasible to make drones that can't be hacked instantly.something that is not possible today because the engineering solution for that invulnerability cannot be used in combat
>>15145458
Carriers, like any installation, are vulnerable. What protects them is a combination of their air wing, keeping conventional threats at bay, and the politics of mad which keep nukes and such from being used in modern combat.
In the future we might have lasers and missiles that can take out these other threat, but for now it's mostly the risk of escalation that keeps warships safe.
>>15147222
Don't you dare suggest that an airborne aircraft-carrier have any hope of dreaming to be someday a tenth as resilient than a conventional floating aircraft-carrier.
There's "vulnerable to huge, incredible and costly effort to kill them" and there's "easily get destroyed by a cheap missile/laser fired at it accidentally".
If we wanted to protect the analogy a flying aircraft-carrier should be surrounded by other (nuclear powered) flying "frigate" with anti-missile tech that would make the fighters wing and carrier superfluous, and it would still need protection against lasers.
All this to say that an airborne-carrier will not conveniently find a way to be equivalent to the seafaring ones.
Our own naval carrier where created because we had no soil for improvised air-trip, if we had we would have never made them, but rather a much more flexible set of mobile base.
>>15147852
Because Carrier can be Inner Sphere too
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>>15148023
Yeah, what about low cost Airborne Drone Carriers?
Without the need for Crew Requirements, you could cut down on a lot of now non-essential systems, meaning they could be smaller and much easier to field en-mass.
>>15148610
It will depend of how 'low' is the cost and how useful it is. Plus the risk of hacking.
I don't want to be pessimistic but the US can't even know if Russia interfered in their election and already have a Sentinel drone stolen by a third-world country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incident
Having a pilot aboard the (nuclear) carrier would ruin its insane endurance but having attack drone could keep it away from most threats.
Risking a submarine, an armor forces or a dozen fighters to destroy a expensive and slow manned carrier is worth it.
But doing the same to attempt to kill a smaller, faster death-bot dispenser is much less interesting.
Assuming of course that Lockheed didn't lies about working on fusion reactor that fit in a truck (yes they said that).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_Compact_Fusion_Reactor
>>15150530
>It will depend of how 'low' is the cost and how useful it is.
Well since I'm thinking "Solar Powered Hydrogen Airship," I'd say pretty low.
Hell, the damn thing wouldn't even need to be armed; The whole thing could serve as an Airborne Recon Drone Dock, allowing constant aerial surveillance both via the blimp itself and it's constantly circulating wings of Drones.
>Assuming of course that Lockheed didn't lies about working on fusion reactor that fit in a truck (yes they said that).
Come on man, we're totally going to put that in the giant Fighting Robot...
>>15150739
>Solar Powered Hydrogen Airship
Then you run into a problem of usefulness. An airship large enough to be useful that way will have poor mobility (a speed too low by itself and the need to be deflated to be carried).
I do give it a good survivability if it can fly high, at least as long as it will take for the enemy to outfit a drone with anything capable of destroying/cutting it. If the airship is at range of enemy position, then it's also at range of the enemy drone.
...that is if they really are on budget, firing a missile against a large radar/drone-carrier plateform is certainly worth the cost (being a ballon won't make it impossible to lock)
You might as well ditch the carrier part and simply make solar powered drone. Hopefully in the future they won't need to be as big as the Solar Impulse.
(I know because I actually had an engineering project on the like, 50% more solar efficiency and it was autonomous)
>>15124585
mortal engines?
>>15130830
The Surcouf and other Cruiser submarines also had seaplanes.
>>15150997
>Then you run into a problem of usefulness. An airship large enough to be useful that way will have poor mobility (a speed too low by itself and the need to be deflated to be carried).
Well the idea is that it would float somewhere in the area of a hotspot and act as a floating recharging station for more mobile aerial drones.
So instead of needing to fly to and from a secure landing zone to recharge, they'd just dock with the hovering Airship.
>>15151404
I understood the intent, but electric craft & airship will be quite slow, the electric drone themselves won't have much range not even because of battery (we could reach 20time what we have now) but because of speed.
And if an airship like that carried significant quantity of your drones, the enemy have cheap solution to destroy them.
That's why the current doctrines is to have drone launcher among the armor division and even the troops.
To justify some airship, I would imagine a world where that Satellite have been disabled by laser and so dozen of (stealth) airships form an alternate line of communication.
Assuming you can make them invisible to radar.
I don't have idea for airborne carrier for now, not for military combat at least.
>>15114248
Having angled launch catapults is smart as it makes planes go away from each other after launch
having double Angled recovery operations landing decks is retarded as it will put planes on intersecting paths when they are going the slowest and are the least manuverable.
Besides, modern super carriers have catapults on the landning deck too so they can launch 4 aircraft in quick succession anyways, this design couldn't do this since you always launch into the wind as much as possible, so since it's just two hulls the miniscule amount of hangar space you might get isn't worth putting all your eggs into one basket instead of two
>>15133602
What the hell is the YF-22 Lightning II doing there?
>>15155297
Why was this thing, or the idea, not utilized? Surely, it's more fuel-efficient to launch stuff like this.
>>15135710
Upsized that'd be a pretty cool carrier, its carrier deck sealable for underwater movement and to shrug off enemy attack.. but its a mobile armor
>>15155493
Thats not a launch method anon, thats just how they transported the shuttle from its landing place back to home
That said, virgin space planned/s to use such a launch method using a high altitude capable jet to carry their shuttle up to the upper reaches of the atmosphere then boost up and out
>>15155554
Don't they steal a space shuttle in one of the James bond movies from the top of the plane like that? Super stupid since the shuttle doesn't have fuel to do anything but glide but it showed what would happen if you launched anything from the top of the plane instead of the bottom
>>15155570
It was being transported to Britain to be launched from a British site elsewhere, not launched.
>>15155493
The idea have been around forever but making one ask for entirely different design. The Space Shuttle carried no fuel for its main engine, all was in the gigantic orange tank.
The difficulty of Rocketry is not so much about getting high than getting FAST (horizontally), take this picture (the design is in fact called "Spaceship Two"). This is NOT capable of orbiting, only of reaching above the 100km line (just like Virgin rockets) but it doesn't give them anywhere enough speed.
Said speed is around 27000 km/h, so a basic jet engine plane with a speed of 900km/h don't make much difference.
Everybody along the military have yet to find engine that allow speed above ~3500km/h without being (fuel hungry) ROCKET engine.
All in all the concept is entirely dependent of making better use of differents engine between the launch/scent phase and the circularize/reach-orbit phase.
But if the same engine is used to do, then you are better ditching (reusable?) fuel tank than carrying a spaceplane on a nearly spaceplane.
That's how the original Space Shuttle worked. Same engine used from 0 to 98% in-orbit.
See "Skylon" & SABRE for a engine prototype that could propel a plane at Mach 5 then turn into a rocket.
>This post turned out significantly longer than initially expected.
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>>15158784
Looking at that beautiful concept-art, it's so sad how patheric fallout 3 turned out to be.
>>15160478
It's post apocalypse, it can't look good.
Also that setting needs to move the fuck on.
>>15160548
I'm talking about scale and presentation. Gamebryo is utter shit.
Also, post apocalypse is perfectly fine, it can look good. I'm replaying mad max right now and it's fun, fun as hell. Doesn't have any rpg elements, but scale and presentation - spot on. This is how fallout sequel should've looked like, not like that shitfest that we got. >/v/, I know. Here, have a huge stationary land-based carrier.
>>15160572
> C-130
> Next to a aircraft of sufficiently advanced technology
I wish more anime streamlined their technological level.So far this submarine isn't a submarine carrier, but it should be
>>15160677
C-130 is plain cool, they can use it whenever, however.
>>15160677
>>You are clear for landing at dock 1
>>Which door there's like twenty of them??
Sand carriers are nice.
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>>15142593
>it carries motherfucking XB-70s
FUCK YES
>>15161394
I really should buy DoK. Expedition guide alone is worth it.
>>15163409
I played with this for hours in Independence War 2.
>>15102247
The New dolos class from Gundam the origin. The shape and proportions are the same, however it carries musai class ships instead of just mobile suits. Let the scale of that sink in.
>>15160698
Bumping
>>15168227
>Max limit of image replies has been reached.
You bumped the thread just to kill it, I guess.
>>15168297
It can't be helped.
>>15168297
damn...
It had a good life
>>15166566
i like this