/srwg/ - Super Robot Wars General #1185

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http://srw-v.suparobo.jp/character/12.php

DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE FACE OF MERCY?

tactics moving charge "extreme boil"

>>15019250
this looks like the face of last 5 stages

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Talk to the hand, /srwg/.

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>>15019261

>>15019250
>Next Handheld will have Prince of Darkness
>Switch exclusive title will have Nadesico
>Next five series game will have Nadesico and then Prince of Darkness
>And then another 3DS game will also have Nadesico AND Prince of Darkness

This is only the beginning of the Second Nadesico Overload Era.

So now that you all got your entirely precious impossible to go without 3D (isometric) maps, will the shitposting abate?

Or will you still do it because 3D maps mean fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things?

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>>15019269
Nice

>>15019277
>Or will you still do it because 3D maps mean fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things?

People just needed the extra push to get the idea.

>>15019277
I want 2D maps now.

>>15019277
Fuck that shit.

You know what the real problem with /srwg/ is?

FF14.

You fuckers play that game way too much and you need to be told to put a stop to your addiction.

It ends here.

>>15019286
I love you, but can you instead keep to SRW related topics?

>>15019277
Z3 apologists already at full force I see

>>15019292
Mattykins has a point, though.
It's great for presentation, but beyond that, it isn't going to make a game less shit.

Do you think the 3D maps and busts would have made Tengoku less of an OG circlejerk?

>>15019286
Why is it that you want to talk about FFXIV so much?

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>>15019301
>Mattykins

>>15019309
What's wrong, Anonypoo?

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Outside from whatever a アンビシアペルト looks like, the Credio are all cleaned. Gonna do some text editing next and maybe a Mucus, but those bugs will be done tomorrow.

>>15019314
>Credio

Kaleido, as in Kaleidoscope.

>>15019292
I've never played Z3, was it any good?

>>15019314
Did you find a full resource for Mucus, by the way?

And do you intend on putting in every kind of Mucus Gate? Because there's like twenty of the fuckers.

>>15019323
Jigoku's alright but piss-easy, where by piss-easy I mean almost every stage can be cleared on the first player phase with the Tension Raiser.

Tengoku has a pretty good first half and then the story just kind of collapses once the Angels get involved. I actually like Advent as a villain on his own, it's just the other three that really drag the whole concept down. Shinka is also a hilariously bad idea for a game mechanic. It's a worse ending to a long-running story than Alpha 3, but it's also a much easier game to actually finish because it doesn't have anything as stupidly tedious as the @3 STMC stages.

I'll give the lategame this, though: what they wound up doing with Asakim was something that people weren't predicting but also made all of his crazy behavior in the previous games make a lot more sense than it did before.

>>15019277
I'll just cut to the chase: kill yourself.

>>15019353
He's rubber, you're glue.

Whatever you say bounces off of him and sticks to you.

>>15019359
I'm actually antimatter, and when I play Rock, Papers, Scissors, I enjoy picking Gun.

>>15019361
You can't do that that's not fair.
Play fair or I'll tell my mom and she'll tell your mom and you'll get in trouble and I won't invite you to my birthday party.

>>15019343
Isn't the first half of Tengoku still just an endless number of Sidereal fights

>>15019371
Protip: The only reason anyone ever hangs out with you is because I hang out with you.
If I don't go to your birthday, no one will.

Not even your mom, she promised she'd bake me some cookies last week.

>>15019372
Yeah, Sidereal nonsense and "Get the team back together!" retread that was already abysmal in Jigoku.

In fairness, it at least has a semblance of objective and SR Point variety which is more than can be said for Jigoku's "Tension Raiser everything in one turn" objectives

>>15019323
Not yet, will do one more search later. There is 3 types missing, I think.

And no, just 3 gates and that's it. They only change colors.

>>15019322

クレディオ - Kureido
カレイドスコープ - Kaleidoscope

>>15019373
She's only making you cookies because you don't have a stove and your mom broke her arms after falling down the stairs and getting hit by a door for the umpteenth time this month.

>>15019383
You seem to know a whole lot about that incident
You had something to do with it, didn't you?

>>15019389
I only know what my dad told me.

And he said that your dad can't keep a job and is a very grumpy man.

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Oh hey.

...wait, have God Mars and Raideen never been in the same game? Huh.

>>15019396
You know my dad died 2 years ago, dickhead!
Your dad's a drunk!

>>15019400
at least he is alive. enjoy that dead dad this holiday season!

>>15019277
Fuck off Mattman.

>>15019372
The Sidereal fights are made up for by the Sidereal bosses actually being kind of threatening for a change. Elunaluna especially with her ridiculously high accuracy for a battleship. I actually got a game over once or twice from putting someone mission-critical in a bad position where she could get to them, which is a lot more than I can say for basically any other SRW.

電磁加速砲 「月光」 / Accelerated Electromagnetic Cannon "Gekkou"
可変速粒子砲 「旋風」 / Variable Speed Particle Gun "Senpuu"
大ロ径陽電子動撃砲 「迅雷」 / Large-diameter Dynamic Positron Cannon "Jinrai"
突撃戦術機動 「烈火」 / Assault Tactics Maneuver "Rekka"

What will be the upgrade for Linebarre... err Vangrey?

>>15019521
Just a weapon: Neutron Warhead "Amaterasu"

What are the names of the 4 OG characters in V?

>>15019555
Souji Murakumo
Chitose Kisaragi
Charlotte Hastings
Reallyweird Name

Also, since I missed the stream earlier, did they give any indication of how many spirits each pilot get? Finally trying to edit akurasu with all the info available.

>>15019521
It turns white and gains the ability to make its opponent teleport into the path of its guns.

>>15019555
Coolguy is Souji Murakumo
Logotits is Chitose Kisaragi
Grungust girl is Charlotte Hasting
Huckebein boy is Wieltab Text

>>15019575
Souji had, I think, three unlocked, but I don't believe I saw any ???? spots. They may just appear as you unlock them.

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OG WHEN?

>>15019521
Souji gets more guns.
Chitose gets an armor purge.

>>15019628
Okay, but what about Chitose's mech?

Tobia seemingly starts with Prevail L8, meaning you only need to use 50 TacP to make him RED SUN OVER PARADISE after he gets hit once.

>>15019640
The game leaked already?

>>15019622
Sometime around 2024, probably. Longer if it turns out V is the start of a series.

>>15019644
Oh sure, we beat it already. We're filling Akurasu now.

>>15019645
Also, don't be surprised if this turns out to have been a one-time deal and Wiel ends up switching to an original Gespenst in OG.

Should I put Tetsuya in Shin or ZERO's heading?

>>15019640
>Only 50 TacP for Prevail 9 and you're likely to get Prevail as your first buy anyway

Oh boy

>>15019644
At LV5 he has NT lv3, Will Limit Break lv2 and Prevail lv8.

>>15019673
You HAVE to buy at least 1 Prevail before you can buy ANY other skill.
You could have Prevail L9 for any character for just 450 points.

>>15019671
Tecnically, he is a Shin Mazinger character, since they are using his VA choice from there.

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http://www.adventureisland.org/srw2/so2.html
11/20 items dummied out.

http://www.adventureisland.org/srw2/so3.html
10/12 shop inventories copypasted.

Surely at least one among you is interested in trying to make a patch for this?

>>15019687
>interested
It's SRW 2.

>>15019595
>Huckebein boy is Wieltab Text
Wörterb Text, as in Wörterbuch (Vocabulary in German)

>>15019679
With Prevail being that cheap and easy to get, does anyone else have the feeling that they might nerf it a bit?

>>15019687
What is this anyway?

>>15019698
Oh, neat. Thanks.

>>15019708
One man's determination to copy-paste until someone hacks an old Famicom game for him.

ヴェルト(CV:金本涼輔)」&「ロッティ(CV:照井春佳)」

Nicknames.

>>15019701
Probably not. This is likely like how in some of the Zs, you start with your final level of Prevail and have to buy the rest. And this IIRC was about the cost in Z2, where it was no harder to buy it.

>>15019720
I'm certain that they jacked it's cost up a bit depending on what you started with.

>>15019717
Wört e Lotti.

>>15019725
It depends on the game. I know in OG they actually made it cheaper the more you had to start, which was ridiculous on characters like Gilliam or Viletta who would start with four or five ranks of skills and could be boosted up to level 9 for a pitifully small amount of PP.

>>15019725
As memory serves, bought levels cost the same no matter what you started with. Whether you have 1 or 7, buying one costs 50 and 2 costs 60 or whatever. That might be the Alphas though.

This could be used as a nerf - say, Daitarn can't tank as well as a 2L with a Shield should because Banjo doesn't start with inbuilt Prevail.

>>15019757
>That might be the Alphas though.
And Z1.

Starting from Z2 on, skill costs are adjusted.

Should I put the Skill Route and Skill Program system as separate entries or split them up on Akurasu?

>>15019804
May as well make them different entries.

There are 5 Skill Routes and 6 Programs correct?

>>15019863
It's all on the official site.
The skill route starts with Potential and branches off into 3 from there on.

>>15019868
Ah, I see. So its just those 22 skills then. Got it.

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>>15019420
>which is a lot more than I can say for basically any other SRW
I don't know, I can think of a few other games with at least reasonably threatening bosses.

Oh, and apparently you can switch from Beginner mode at will at intermission.

>>15019476
>大ロ径陽電子動撃砲
It's 衝撃砲.

>>15019890
FMW is much more difficult than SRW.

>>15019919
It depends on the difficulty, really. Easy mode is a literal joke, just like most SRW games. Normal is acceptably challenging in the first game, but falls off in the later entries. Hard is at a pretty good spot - challenging, but not painfully so. And then there's Lunatic, which is just all kinds of sadistic.

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>casting spirits
>on enemy's turn

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New Ibis artwork.

Choose Slaves

1. An A+ Game with all of Fafner, Majestic Prince, Heroic Age

2. A Solid B game with Gundam Thunderbolt, G-Reco, and Bubuki

3. A barely meeting C game with Gundam IBO, Aldnoah zero, Valvrave, and Gurren Lagann

>>15019941
I'd play Super Hiraiface Wars.

>>15019940
>Showing off her navel and armpits
Why is she such a slut?

>>15019941
An SSS++ game featuring Koutetsushin Jeeg, MS Saga, Armored Core and many more.

Posted from my iPhone

*post endorsed by Finlander of Finland

>>15019941
>SRW V
>no Valvrave

>>15019948
Wouldn't you do something to make up for lack of bounce?

>>15019931
>he never played Neo

Then again, given how much you all feliate it, it wouldn't shock me if none of you have played it.

>>15019941
The A+ game you fucking idiot.

Even if it had all the series I hate, I'd pick an A+ game over a failure with series I like.

>>15019948
>she

>>15019941
3.

>>15019941
None are really catching my eye, can I have a B- with Patlabor, Mega Man X5, and J-Decker instead?
Because I might be able to if I can learn how Eternity's engine works when it comes out.

>>15019957
Despite all its flaws, I enjoyed Neo for the most part. Sure, the gameplay is slow as fuck, the enemy AI is beyond laughable, and the story is... well, you're certainly familiar with the issues Neo had in that regard. But something about the game was just oddly charming. The OGs were fun, the innovative gameplay ideas changed things up enough that it felt fresh, and of course the top-notch soundtrack didn't exactly hurt things either.

I'm interested to see how V handles spirits on the enemy phase, personally.

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>>15019948
>she

>>15019941
I choose 4.

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>>15019941
>no Nono

>>15019941
The A+ game, obviously.

For a description of Skill Route, how about this:

"The Skill Route is where you purchase skills and unlocking further skills for your pilots by spending TacP.

*The Skill Route is independant of any particular pilot, and all skills are obtainable by all pilots

*The total limit of skills on a single pilot is 30

*Multiple copies of the skill can be purchased to be given to multiple pilots

>>15019941
How about an S game with an actually decent cast list?

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>>15019992
>>*Multiple copies of the skill can be purchased to be given to multiple pilots

What if, 6 x Level 9 Prevail

>>15019994
>Option 1
>Not good

>>15019992
Mention how to obtain TacP.
I mean the official site says enemies drop money aswell as TacP, but it's still worth pointing out.

>>15019929
That stupid Aya/Momiji stage is obnoxious on Hard.

>>15020013
Already did the section on TacP, just working my way down the list.

>>15019997
OH MY GOD

>>15019941
How about we stop with this absolutely shitty and entirely uninteresting scenario.

Jesus fucking christ.

Anyone know where I can find SRW character portraits?

I'm trying to learn how to make a VN, so I need some pictures to help me test it out.

>>15020008
>Hiraiface spam
>good
Heroic Age and MJP might be decent, but never got into them. Fafner can go rot, though.

>>15020032
http://mechanicalsaviour.blogspot.my/

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>>15020035
Your bait is as weak as your taste in mecha

>>15020064
>calling shit shows shit is bait now
Don't you have another twenty gendum threads to shit up
?

>>15020068
But you're not calling a shit show shit.

You've confused yourself. We're not talking about Gainax Trash

>tfw V had K's SP growth rate where you can't even cast hotblood once until the last quarter of the game

>>15020035
>>15020064
>>15020068
>>15020073
>that delay in between replies
Stop talking to yourself and go falseflag elsewhere.

>>15020073
>bringing in Gainax out of nowhere

>>15020075
Unless you're in say something like Dangaioh, pretty much everyone in K had enough SP to squeeze out at least one hotblood cast at level 1.

You can squeeze out Flash with that in +10 levels and a Strike with +20 more but everyone should be ending K at like the absolute worst 35+ anyway.

What's the description of the Protection skill? Gain 10% Evasion and Damage decreased by 0.9 during counterattack, and MAP accuracy reduced by 50% and damage reduced by 0.6?

>>15020100
When using the command "Defend"; damage is further reduced to 0.9x.
When using the command "Evade"; final evasion reate is further increased by 10%.
If targeted with a MAP attack, initiator's hit rate is halved, and damage taken is reduced to 0.6x.

So basically if I understand this, if you would normally take 4000 damage from an attack with 78% hit rate, then:
Defending will reduce the damage to 3600, then halve it to 1800
Evading will reduce the accuracy by half, then deduct another 10% for 29% final hit rate
And then a MAP attack would have 39% accuracy, and you would take 2400 damage, almost as if you both evaded and defended the MAP attack.


And while we're talking about skills, if Half-Cut is one of the special skills, Matt has to drop his trip.

>>15020119
I expect Protection to be the new dumped on everyone tier skill just for the MAPW part.

>Protection and Prevail LV9 cost just 700 TacP
>going by the stream, the first 5 stages in the game in Beginner mode are worth around 250~ TacP each
We shall create a world ruled only by the strong
a wurld of VIT

>>15020032
X-Omega has a lot.

>>15020119
Are you sure this isn't a boss-only skill?

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>>15020137
A minimum investment of 500 TacP is needed before you can purchase it (Potential -> ISD -> Cover Defense -> Predict/Guard)

>>15019992
>The total limit of skills on a single pilot is 30

NG+++ is going to be fucking hilarious.

>>15019992
Is it 30 skills in all or 30 combined skill levels?

>>15020143
I usually give predict/guard + cover to everyone anyway. This is going to be great.

>>15020143
What's the one on the bottom-right?

>>15020147
30 combined.

>>15020152
Proud Ace. Killcount for Ace status is lowered from 60 to 50.

>>15020148
Guard and Predict are level based now, so you're probably gonna need to farm quite a bit to get everyone to tank the most they can.
We're gonna have to wait until the perfect bible comes out to know just how effective these skills are and how do they scale with levels.

>>15020152
Ace Proud, enables Ace Bonuses at 50 kills instead of 60

>>15020158
Sorry, I meant 30 combined skills, not levels individually.

To clarify, there are 22 skills on the Skill Route, 6 special skills. Everybody can get everything as long as they have room. Leadership, Counter, and NT and SEED are probably going to take up spots.

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Here's the skill screen. Look at all that room.

>>15020148
Pep

Pep

>>15020176
>>15020178
We don't need /sp/ shit here. Get the fuck out.

>>15020158
>>15020159
Weird that it's so far at the end of the tree, then. I imagine by the time you're getting there that you'd have pretty much everyone Aced that you were planning on using anyway.

>>15020192
Should have swapped places with SP Up

>50 + 150 + 100 + 300 + 350 + 200
That's 1150 TacP to buy Ace Proud for the first time.
That's 50 less than what you'd need to get Attack Again, which also lets you grab cool shit like Ignore Size Difference or an x Save.

Going for Ace Proud makes you grab useless garbage like Parts Supply, Repair Skill and Resupply Skill

>>15020198
It's obviously for shit tier pilots like Fa or Katz.

>>15020200
They'd do better if you grabbed them some Prevail levels instead so their hit/evasion skyrockets after getting hit once (which they will).
I think Banpresto's really underestimating how powerful Prevail has become after Z1 modified it, 50 points for is absurd.

I guess I missed the "Casting Spirits on Enemy Turn is OP" discussion but I think the only "potentially iffy" part is probably Flash and Fortitude.

Currently, you can't attack with Flash up and still have it on the enemy turn meaning a lone boss who doesn't have a mook to eat your Flash first at least has a chance to counterattack.

By being able to cast on Enemy Phase, a unit with Flash can basically be covered for both phrases unless the boss does nothing but spam MAPs.

Unless they raise the cost of those Spirits to like 25 per pop or something to make it really impractical.

Vigor and Guts are also improved by making them a lot less risky to use but I think the SP to HP conversion rate generally isn't that good to consider it OP.

I don't see being able to Valor on the Counterattack being an issue (unless there's Revenge and it stacks) - it gets you like what, an extra or two "turns" worth of Valor? Most of the time, a boss is going to be hit by a lot more Valor attacks than that. And that's assuming you get it to target the most optimal target for you.

The real question is whether 先見/Foresight will be implemented in SRW GR

>>15020203
Who knows if they nerf prevail this time around?

>>15020203
Prevail's been a broken skill ever since they started giving it levels. I can't think of a single game where someone didn't dip into the nigh unkillable status once they got to near death at Prevail 7+

>>15020213
Pre-Z1 it only gave +5% armor per level, you needed 2400+ or so armor for it to start getting batshit insane, from Z1 on, it was 10%.

For the most absolute extreme case, check the Neo Granzon in MD, 2400 base armor, 3300 natural maximum. On top of MD being a game where enemies hit with peashooters, in the absurdly rare event Shu gets whacked hard enough to dip below 10%, he'd have an effective 6270 armor right there.
That's fucking insane.

>2 months without visiting this general
>Everyone talking about the same stuff as last time

What the heru.

>>15020223
No new games have come out since two months ago. Do you really expect any changes in discussion?

>>15020223
Literally every general ever.

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>>15020223
there was new stuff for X Omega announced

>>15020218
So he still hasn't hit over 10000 armor like Mio can in Masoukishin, one day we will get there one day.

>>15020223
Come back in another two months and things will be moderately different.

How different depending primarily on what V's reception will inevitably be.

全10種で、TacPを消費すれば最初からそれらを複数生産できます。

What is this talking about?

>>15020227
>No new games have come out since two months ago.
SOON

I'm not at home so I can't post a relevant picture

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>>15020237
I'm done with this college for this semester so I'll start hanging around again.

I want to see the V shitstorm

>>15020233
I want to order the Granzon kit.

>>15020235
A unit would need at least 5264 base Armor to get over 10000 with LV9 Prevail at 10%. Even Z.O. Armor only adds +250, so even filling both slots with that isn't going to be nearly enough.

>>15020245
Holy crap I missed you anon, I even remember that filename.

>>15020223
Come back in 10 years and we will still be talking about Shu

>>15019277
>So now that you all got your entirely precious impossible to go without 3D (isometric) maps, will the shitposting abate?
No. We'll just be pissed that 3D Maps was wasted on a shitty SRW
>Or will you still do it because 3D maps mean fucking nothing in the grand scheme of things?
https://youtu.be/fMTgWU7y4NA?t=673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=680rF8vg8so

Nah 3d maps are better presentation wise.

>>15020260
>3d maps was wasted
>wasted

HOW IS IT A WASTE? Is there some fucking contract that says "oh man, there's a game here with 3d maps, now the next game by default can't have that!"

>>15020240
It's referring to the Parameter Programs, of which all 10 kinds are available for purchase with TacP from the beginning, unlike regular skills which ALL require you to buy Prevail at least once, or specials, which need you to meet specific requirements.

>>15020268
Ah, OK. Its what I thought, just wanted to make sure.

>>15020266
>First MAINLINE SRW since Z1 that has 3D Maps
>Cast list includes Cross Ange

>>15020276
>Cross Ange is bad

>>15020276

Again, how is it a waste? A waste implies that it's in some limited quantity and that it's saying "we could have gotten 3D maps in a better games but it's in this" which is implicitly saying that a better game misses out. It ignores that BOTH games can have 3D maps with 2D sprites.

Also, Impact had it too.

So long as the 3D maps aren't Impact-tier terrible, I don't care if the maps are 2D or 3D. I really don't.

>3D maps
>sprite looks like some cleaned up version from SRW Z, a PS2 game

Woah.. PS4 games..

>>15020290

You can only do so much with an SD sprite that's supposed to take up a small amount of space. Unless you do the wierd thing the MK games did with their sprites, where it looks like drawing over a 3D model.

Meditate is a levelable skill now.

>>15020285
If anything, it might be the reverse of "waste" considering how much asset recycling Banpresto does - having some "3D Maps" assets created now means future games are more likely to have it until a Graphical upgrade forces their hands again.

>>15020302
Even moreso when you consider that the Vita may be gone forever by the end of the decade, forcing more focus on console stuff.

>>15020300
Which mean its going to start at maybe 10%? reduction. Also I hope they reused the half spirit pool and free regen system like Z3

I like it better than full SP pool

>>15020284
Yes?
>>15020302
>having some "3D Maps" assets created now means future games
Then why the fuck didn't Z2 and Z3 have 3d maps?

>>15020309
>Then why the fuck didn't Z2 and Z3 have 3d maps?

For Z2, because 3D map games on the PSP ran slow as fuck. For Z3, laziness.

>>15020302
Just pray that their next game doesn't retain 60% of its predecessors cast.

>>15020309
Z2 - The PSP shit itself on 3D maps as MXP showed.

And Z3 chose to spend most of their resources redoing unit sprites, I assume.

>>15020309
PLAYSTATION "VITA"

http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars/V/Skill_Route_System

How does it look, informative?

>>15020321
>100 point for 5 melee

wtf. How many slot can we fit in now? Who will want to get these if there's only 8 slots

>>15020326
Stat and terrain boosts don't take up skill slots, and you have like 30 slots.

>>15020331
hmm so its like the Ability System of OG

>>15020321
I'm pretty sure Full Counter is just a guaranteed Counter, rather than doing anything aside from that. A Counter that always works.

>>15020314
>Z2 - The PSP shit itself on 3D maps as MXP showed.

And yet it was STILL somehow more optimized than trying to emulate the PS2 version.

Full Counter description

反撃」選択時、攻撃を仕掛けた相手より必ず先に攻撃する。

>>15020345
When "counterattack" is selected, you will always attack before the opponent attacks.

>>15020345
The current Support Defending description right now would make no sense anyway because units can't Support Defend while being on the offense.

So, what's the point of Proud Ace? Just lowering the ACE requirement seems a bit pointless.

>>15020347
Thanks. Updated.

Also wanted to point out that support attacks (or cover attacks, since we now have two skills named support attack) apparently have a 50% damage penalty, now.

>>15020358
That's not new actually, it's why there's a skill to remove that penalty in OG.

>>15020360
I'm pretty sure the penalty is normally 20%, not 50%.

>>15020349
>So, what's the point of Proud Ace?
We're hoping that the game designer knows something that we don't.

But then again - SRW game design.

http://hobby.dengeki.com/reviews/290170/

>8200 yen

Fuck

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電磁加速砲「月光」
電磁加速砲 literally means Electromagnetic Acceleration Gun, but is commonly just referred to as a railgun or EML (electromagnetic launcher). 月光 is Gekkou, which means moonlight.

可変速粒子砲「旋風」
可変速粒子砲 means Variable Speed Particle Gun, and 旋風 is Senpuu, which means whirlwind.

大口径陽電子衝撃砲「迅雷」
Wide-barrel Positron Impact Cannon "Jinrai" (thunderclap).

突撃戦術機動「烈火」
Tactical Assault Maneuver "Rekka" (raging fire)


>>15020412
The system page on the official site has another line below the "ace bonus requirement lowered" description, but I can't really figure it out. Makes it sound as if it adds something to the ace bonus. I dunno.

>>15020424
Gekkou = The railgun in Vangray's right hand.

I guess the finisher is another "fire all the guns" attack.

>>15020418
Why are all Koto kits expensive as hell? The quality isn't as good as Bandai too.

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Part of Jinrai's animation

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>>15020442
>Jinrai

>>15020444
But that's Zinlai!

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Senpuu's animation

>>15020424
>Makes it sound as if it adds something to the ace bonus. I dunno.
I could be misinterpreting it, but I am suddenly starting to suspect that "Custom ACE Bonus" is NOT given for free unless you buy Proud Ace.

So basically

Without Proud Ace: 60 kills, Gets the standard
+ 5 Morale at start.
With Proud Ace: 50 kills. Gets the above AND the pilot's Custom Ace Bonus

>>15020448
I doubt it, because that means you have to force your main attackers to buy repair and resupply skill.

>>15020454
The skill chart isn't tied to each pilot, though. It's independent.

>>15020457
Oh, so you only have to unlock it only once?

>>15020457
Yeah - it's like a global research tech tree - once you unlock it, you can give the skills to anyone.

If this is the way it works, it actually makes sense why it's the final skill of its particular tree - some of the custom Ace Bonuses are pretty nuts.

>>15020460
Seems that way. You basically "buy" copies of the skill from that menu, and distribute them to whatever pilots you want.

>>15020460
Once unlocked, you can purchase multiple copies to give to other units.

1,150 to unlock Proud Ace and another 9800 to give it to a cast of roughly 50.

>>15020496
Maxing out a stat by endgame is going to be somewhere between 3000 and 5000 for most stats, plus another 1000 for stats, meaning around 25,000 TP to max out a pilot before skills.

>>15019716
>One man's determination to copy-paste until someone hacks an old Famicom game for the <100-ish people who would actually be interested.
ftfy

>>15020501
Let's turn this Copypasta into a Creepypasta.

ONCE THERE WAS A HAUNTED SRW 2 CART.EXE

>>15020509
I PLAYED IT AND EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL

BUT EVERYTHING WASN'T NORMAL THERE WAS SOMETHING WEIRD

I WENT TO THE MENU SCREEN AND EVERYONE'S HP WASN'T WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, IT WAS 0

>>15020205
Vigor has that issue in Neo and OE - casting it whenever is great, the cost is not so great.

>>15020444
"Thunderclap" is a fairly common name for a mech, mate. It's also something in Reideen, plenty of Monsters of the Week, and possibly Jinraiger Iunno. (And I think something from Geass too but again Iunno.)

>>15020198
So basically it should only be used for dedicated healers/resuppliers.

>>15020517
SUDDENLY MASAKI LOOKED AT THE TV AND HE HAD HYPER REALISTIC EYES.

CYBUSTER TURNED BLACK AND ITS NAME BECAME SHUWALONGA SIN AND HE SAID "WANT TO PLAY A GAME" BUT I WAS ALREADY PLAYING SRW 2

>>15020517
AND THEN MARIO LOOKED AT THE SCREEN WITH HYPER REALISTIC BLOOD AND YET MY NVIDIA DIDN'T COMBUST

Well, we know Okita has 99 SP at level 24 and Roux has 66 at level 14. Does that seem to be a normal amount for the levels?

>>15020532
> Okita
...Souji?

>>15020529
HE TOOK OUT HIS PISTOL AND SHOT THE LOCK
oh wait wrong one.

>>15020233
And if X-Omega wasn't broken before, it is now.

>>15020532
Hard to say. Depends on when SP growth ramps up. Some games have it at +1 per level early on, then it climbs to +2 and +3 per level later. I'm guessing she has about 45 or maybe 50 SP at Lv.1, which seems about right for some of the newer games.

>>15020535
Captain of Yamato.

>>15020551
Santa?

>>15020551
Oh right.

>>15020532
Endgame Z1 barely reaches 100.

>>15020528
SO I KEPT PLAYING AND EVEN THOUGH EVERYONE'S HP WAS 0 THEY DIDN'T DIE

HYPER REALISTIC EYES MASAKI SAID "THEY ARE GHOSTS NOW AND YOU WILL BE TOO"

>>15020557
Endgame Z1 reaches 170s to 190s.

>>15020563
EVEN THOUGH MASAKI WAS ACTING WEIRD AND EVERYONE WAS DEAD EVERYTHING ELSE WAS FINE SO I KEPT PLAYING

AFTER TWENTY-FIVE MINUTES A REALLY CREEPY MUSIC TRACK STARTED PLAYING IT WAS LIKE TIME TO COME ONLY BACKWARDS

>>15020573
What? Really? Well, I played that 8 years ago, forgive me.

>>15020563
HYPER REALISTIC EYES MASAKI THEN SAID "WHATS WRONG? YOU LOOK AS PALE AS A GHOST!" AND "YOU DON'T STAND A GHOST OF A CHANCE!" AND THEN HE SAID "YOU'LL WISH YOU COULD GHOST YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS ONE" BUT THAT ONE DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE I DON'T KNOW I THINK HE WAS RUNNING OUT OF PLATITUDES OR SOMETHING BUT I STILL CHUCKLED OUT OF COURTESY

>>15020577
It's too late.

Next time we meet, we'll be enemies.

>>15020587
SUDDENLY 20 X-9 GHOSTS SPAWNED AND THEY ALL HAD 0 HP TOO.

"OH MAN I FUCKING HATE THOSE THINGS IN ALPHA GAIDEN" I SAID BUT THEN I REALIZED THIS WAS SRW 2! MACROSS ISN'T EVEN A SERIES IN IT!

SUDDENLY A VF APPEARED IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THE GHOSTS, NOT THE OLD MAN BUT THE PLANE!

BUT AMAZINGLY IT WAS PILOTED BY HIKARU AND SPOKE TO ME IN HIKARU'S VOICE,

BUT HOW COULD THIS BE, HIKARU DIED BEFORE SRW 2 WAS RELEASED

>>15020619
HIKARU SAID "ANON YOU HAVE TO BUST THE GHOSTS TO SAVE YOUR SOUL"

BUT HE DIDN'T SAY ANON HE SAID MY NAME

HOW COULD A CARTRIDGE KNOW MY NAME?

>>15020624
THAT'S WHEN I REALIZED THAT I WAS LOOKING AT A MIRROR THE ENTIRE TIME BUT WAIT IN CONFUSED BECAUSE I'M ACTUALLY A VAMPIRE SO WHAT WAS THE MIRROR REFLECTING LMAO DUDE SERIOUSLY WHAT'S UP WITH THAT

>>15020629
AND THEN THE MIRROR STARTED OOZING HYPER REALISTIC BLOOD OUT

AND FROM THE BLOOD CAME HUNDREDS OF MINI DON ZAUSERS AND THEY ALL SAID "YOU NEVER FINISHED OE YOU FUCK"

>>15020276
>Having a bad series in a roster means it's a shit SRW
So every SRWs from SC2 onwards, except BX, are utter trash because it has SEED Destiny?

>>15020640
Don't worry, BX has AGE. Hell, it has Part 3 AGE.

>>15020645
But Part 3 AGE also provides PLASMA DIVER MISSILE.

>>15020636
"BUT I DID" I YELLED TO NO ONE IN PARTICULAR - ALL 10 CHAPTERS OF IT. I SHUDDERED AS PTSD MEMORIES OF MUCUS AND DARK GOSAURERS CAME FLOODING BACK TO ME

"OH NO" DON ZAUSER CHUCKLED... WHAT THEY NEVER TOLD YOU IS... SRW OE HAS 13 CHAPTERS"

>>15020640
What about Neo?

Guessing the Akito event is over now?

>>15020665
Genuinely horrifying.

>>15020665
Added to the Sahibypasta wiki.

>>15020733
Possibly. We're at the 1:30 point on a six hour maintenance, no matter what.

>>15020830
Could have been worse, it could have been 18 hours

>>15020775
well yeah but FFXIV will be good in a week

>>15020840
But, X-Omega has never done an 18th Hour one, how could it be worst?

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Which one is the superior Suzune sensei ?

>>15020976
Is this a VA joke or something

>>15020976
The Left one because she actually teaches.

The Right one never actually teach anything, I don't even think she has any students.

>>15020976
Which one is better on bed?

>>15020981
Opps I got my Left and Right's incorrect.
Oh well. I sure no on will notice.

>>15020985
https://exhentai.org/g/766446/75086d2f3c/
I only have this for one of the 2 choices

>>15020981
I'm kinda glad I never had any hot teachers because I don't know how anyone can learn with a boner

>>15020976
COOL AS HELL

>>15020976
The Senran is pretty great and hot but she's NOT MY MATCH

>>15020976
What would happened if Hibiki takes on the entire Hebijo Academy girls ?

>>15021031
I hope he bought Continuous Action with his PP by time traveling to Z2

>>15021055
>needing continuous action when you have Tactical Combo and Tension Raiser

>>15021060
He won't be able to use Multi-Action alone.

How do you farm EC in OE?

>>15021097
You know that mission where you first get Dunbine, against a couple Lamune mooks?

One of the best ways to get EC is to replay that mission repeatedly with the "retract you to the level of the stage but double EC gain" thing.

IIRC there's a later stage that's better for it, but that's a good one. I'd check the OE wiki, I seem to remember them having a few other solutions.

So, wait a moment. V has large portraits and 3d maps, pleasing people who have complained for months, even years because of SRW Z2 and Z3... and now... people complain about 3d maps and say that they do not matter??

Seriously?

>>15021113
mattmans opinion doesn't matter

>>15021113
You're in an anonymous message board, there will be people who'd disagree.

>>15021113
We will find something to complain.
Some people are already complaining the game will be too easy with Neo/OE Spirit command casting during enemy attacks phase.

So I heard Zabine was seen in the stream.
Pre or post defection?

>>15021113
I've complained about people complaining about large portraits and 3d map for months, even years because of SRW Z2 and Z3.

If this shocks you that my opinion is "now fucking shut up about it" then you're an idiot.

>>15021113
It's called shitposting. Nothing new.

>>15021113
I should start complaining about people editing akurasu if that's the case.

>>15021125
Apart from a few exceptions such a SRW 3 has ever existed a difficult SRW?

>>15018250
Luna Flash
Gust Cannons
Lite Gun
Blazer Charge

>>15021126
No, there were only X1 Kai, F91, Gureto, Yamato and Vangray.

>>15021135
I think Alpha Gaiden is legimately hard. There were some bullshit gimmicks but at least it's not a wonkysoft game.

>>15020852
Are you getting a new content patch, or what

Cause until Stormblood actually hits, I wouldn't get too excited, Anonymous.

>>15021113
I never complained in the first place.

>>15021125
>Spirit command casting during enemy attacks phase
This on another hand is fucking crap and remove an entire layer of strategy
>but SRW is always easy now!
That does not mean it's okay to make it even easier

>>15021143
>X1 Kai, F91, Gureto, Yamato and Vangray.

And Black Getter.

Which makes sense, this looks like it could be some sort of outcast group (CV out in space, Tetsuya avoiding the Shin Mazinger plot, Yamato... being your battleship, and then you have Ryoma before his reappearance after the timeskip.)

>>15021145
>>15020852
A friend gifted me FF14 last year but I never really played it, and he isn't even really playing it anymore. Is it playable at all solo? I hate people but I hear it's a better FF than 15.

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>>15021147
>>Spirit command casting during enemy attacks phase
>This on another hand is fucking crap and remove an entire layer of strategy

>>15021154
Yeah post another crap game using this system, like EO.

>>15021147
Wait until the actual game is out. Maybe there's a rule so that you can't cast flash in the same turn or something.

>>15021147
But actually it was enough to do "focus" to avoid any enemy attack in every srw. it would be interesting if the enemies and the grunt too started using focus or avoid.

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>>15021155

>>15021157
Every time people bring up "what if enemies cast spirits" I remember all those times where they did and it was fucking terrible.

>XN-L spam casting spirits
>Gu-Landon spam casting spirts

>>15021168
oh... well, I remember that some bosses use Fortress, avoid, focus, morale newtype, etc. etc. all together and yes, in that cas it can be a pain in the ass, especially in level with time limit, but I speak of spirit powers used only once.

>>15021153
It's playable solo, it's the most anti-social multiplayer game in existence, but there will be many points in the game where you'll have to interact with the community.

That is, a community of people who are

>Elitist over one of the most casual games on the market
>Erotic role players who never shut the fuck up
>All sorts of people who make Mattman and TE look like sensible and well adjusted individuals.

Also you'll be giving Square Enix money. That alone is horrifying and generally a bad idea.

>>15021168
Wasn't there a joke about grunts discovering how to use spirits?

>>15021183
In Shin.

The thing is, half of them use shit like Focus and Guard that make the stage more annoying, and if you make a mistake you can easily see a 7000~ HP grunt use Selfdestruct... when most of your units have 4000 or less HP, and almost all the P moves are 1 range. Fortunately, it's nerfed Selfdestruct, it won't kill your units and will only bring them to 10, but given lack of Prevail that's fucking asking for another grunt to finish the job.

It does come with a fun joke that one of the grunts will use Rouse, and it's keyed to work on your side, so if you manipulate the one that does it and your units position you can get 10 free will on 4 units in a game where getting free Will is huge.


Also I forget what the boss of that stage uses but he casts a spirit too and it's either "restore health to full" or Hot Blood in a game where most bosses (if they hit you with their best move) can basically just flat 2hko you because armor sucks even when the pathetic values aren't just plain meaningless and power scaling can actually end up higher than Alpha 1.

>>15021155
Etrian oddysey?

>>15021172
>normal grunts in V spam casting spirits

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I kinda like Souji's bored/uninterested expression, i hope it has something to do with his character

>>15021211
But i want to play as the girl

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>>15021211
>stage 5
>6 turns

>>15021216
There are powers best left obscured to mortals such as yourself.

>>15021211
So what all options are on the menu? I mean, I recognize a few by osmosis (Save and Load will never stop being obvious, and I know most of the rest) but it'd be nice to know for sure.

>>15021221
1st column
Pilot Info
Skill Program
Skill Route
Factory
Sub-Order

2nd column
Robot Info
Upgrade
Option Parts
I dunno how should I translate this. It's that place where you change Unicorn into FA Unicorn.
Change Pilot

3rd column
Kanji I didn't recognize but I feel like I've seen it before
Option
Network
Save
Load

>>15021224
>Factory

Hmm?

>>15021216
They played on babby mode

>>15021226
Probably the shop thingy, like the Bazaar and D-Trader.

>>15021135
FMW is pretty hard

>>15021231
Ah, yeah, that's true.

So unless squad setup is being hidden until you unlock it - assuredly not when you have all of five units - or stuck inside another menu (which also counts as "being hidden")... Well, PV2 will tell all.

>>15021216
I think it's some kind of a stage "demo", not the full game.
If you saw the stats, Yamato's and Great's movement was 6, but Skull Heart's was only 5; and all of our units had 2 part slots.
There's no way that's their real stats in the released game.

>>15021231
Maybe you can build weapons earlier before they appeared in the story like Z1?

>>15021031
Harem ending

>>15020448
Man, this game makes it sound like it's going to be a complete bitch when it comes to upgrading weaker characters.

>>15021306
I feel it's the other way round - since you can buy and distribute "Skill Parts" however you like, you no longer have to slog terribly in order to give a support unit Prevail 9 / SP UP or whatever you would want to put on a Support Unit

>>15021253
Honestly, that would be the best thing to happen to them especially the Homura Crimson Squad.

>>15021320
I have to agree with your point of view.

The new system is beneficial for everyone, especially the people who aren't actively getting kills.

>>15021211
Is Souji the first SRW protagonist with facial hair? It's not much, but it's a start.

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>>15020993
>https://exhentai.org/g/766446/75086d2f3c/

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>>15021359

>>15021140
Are those Bangley's weapons? Sweet.

>>15020993
I don't get it, what's the story?

>>15021376
It's written under a "What If" scenario where the Sealing plan (forgot its name) succeeded at the end of Z3-1 because the heroes failed.

>>15021211
Yeah, he's great

>>15021215
I can't fucking choose. It sucks we even have to. I want both
Fuck you Terada

>>15021391
It's better than having a double-seater protagonist with Chitose as the sub.

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>>15021395
Sure but then having a 2 seat mech and letting you choose and switch the main pilot at will is the best, they could do that again just from the start of the game.

>>15021391
oh, come on. Play the game two times. What's is the problem?

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>>15021414

>>15021419
We are gonna get some mileage out of this guy.

>>15021408
>le finisher with no pierce belt on head woman

>>15021419
I kinda feel that Souji's going to be a bit of lazybone as a trait of his character judging from his facial hairs and uninterested looks.

>>15021454
Just use Direct HIt/Fury you dork.

>>15021478
I hope he's not gonna be one of those "uuuuh I hate troublesome things because they're troublesomeeeeeeee" characters.

>>15021496
Those characters speak to me on a spiritual level.

>>15021496
I doubt someone wanting to turn into a bullet would say this.

More likely he's an ace pilot or something and only feels happy inside his Lineb- I mean, Vangrey.

>>15021320
That sound easier, but buffing stats will now be really expensive, which might make it nearly impossible to get the really shitty pilots up to par.

>>15021419
He has a familiar face..

>>15021113
The people complaining about large portraits and 3D maps in V are Z3fags who put all their eggs to pretending those aspects are actually shit to justify liking their game.

>>15021811
>>15021811

New Thread

>>15019659
Grungust Kai is boring shit.

>>15020233
Where is my Full Possession Cybuster in X-O?