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Weakest Mobile Suit Pilot

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There was a thread the other day with a small bit of discussion on whether Loran was the worst main character mobile suit pilot, and it got me thinking about who I thought was the worst since I didn't agree it was Loran. For the purposes of this I'm not counting OVA main characters, both because one of them isn't an actual pilot (Al from 0080) and because they're expected to have worse units and lower skills to tell more human stories. It's not always true, but that seems to be the aim of at least some of them.

I considered Domon first, simply because he's not a pilot as such. I'd consider him a fighter and not a pilot personally. So pointing at him would be an easy out to answer the question, but either he's not a pilot so doesn't count. Or he is one, and he's skilled. So it's moot either way. I was tempted to pick Judau next, but that's an unfair choice on my part as well, since I've yet to see most of ZZ and would be nominating him more because of his reputation of being a stronger newtype than pilot than because of any lack of skill on his part.

So I think I'd probably settle on Kio, because he got a brand new wear for an almost new Gundam wrecked with little fight on his part, and then started complaining that his Gundam wasn't up to snuff and seemed to survive more of the technological superiority of his Gundam than real skill after that point. But maybe he doesn't count either, since if AGE can be said to have only one main character rather than 3 then it's obviously Flit, and Flit is pretty skilled given he kept the AGE-1 relevant using the Gransa wear long after it should really have become rather obsolete.
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>>15013748

If Kio didn't count then I'd probably go for Shinn, if only because he attacked a melee specialist mobile suit with leg beam sabers by kicking it, and that's really, really stupid. Same as Kio may not count though, it's possible to argue Shinn doesn't count. In which case I'd probably pick Bellri. Not that I think he's unskilled, but he seemed to rely on the technological superiority of the G-Self a few times, like against the Yggdrassil and the few bits of real creativity he displayed (that I can recall) didn't really work out for him. Like when he attacked the G-Self using a Recten and Aida was rebuffing him until the G-Self stopped working right.

Who do you think is the weakest main character pilot out of interest?
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Mika would get his ass kicked by Katz
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>>15013770

I haven't seen any of season two, and besides the show isn't actually finished yet - so I didn't count him either.
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I would say it's among:

-Kio, Banana: Overly reliant on their broken suits. They both haven't gotten to face a MS with comparable power that they actually took down without some space magic or assistance. Though Kio has X-Rounder abilities that he's good enough with to support his pacifist style and took down the Vagan Gear SID in a one-on-one so he's got more feats under his belt than Banana whose most impressive acts are magic plot powers completely unrelated to piloting skill.

-Shiro or Kou: They are really standard. Little to no Newtype abilities to use as crutches.

-Chris: Almost lost to a rookie in a Zaku that was already in terrible shape and cobbled back into working conditions in a week. Granted Bernie did make preparations to get an advantage.
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>>15013748
Judau was even from the beginning more skilled than the rest of the Neo Zeon lackey's he went up against. And while you could argue it was because of the Zeta's Gundam performance ( and later on the ZZ) Fa did comparatively worse than him even though she at that point was much more experienced.
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>>15013997
Bernie got appointed to a team of aces

kid isn't exactly a rookie
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Kou.
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Couldn't even make it walk properly.
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>>15013997

She also got sucker punched because she wouldn't fight in the city, was in a mobile suit that was literally fighting her every command and she tore Misha a new asshole

Really she'd probably tear ass in a Jegan or even a GM or something
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>>15014278
But that was every Natural before the figured out how to make MSs not shit.
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>>15014078
I had figured that Fa's performance was actively suffering because she was conflicted and traumatized over what happened to Kamille, and it was obvious to Bright that she wanted to go back to Kamille and if she stayed on the Argama, she'd meet her end rather quickly.

So there would be a difference between "Tsundere Fa who wants to prove she can fight as well as Kamille" and "PTSD Fa who was horrified over the atrocities of the previous war and watched a lot of her friends die or become vegetables".
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>>15013997
If you're going to cite Kio's X-Rounder nonsense, then you have to cite Banana's Newtype nonsense.
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Cuck Uraki is probably the worst protagonist pilot.
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>>15014326
But what did Banana's Newtype stuff do that actually made him a better pilot? Kio's X-Rounder stuff let him control his funnels with a high degree of precision across the entire battlefield and the most I recall Banana's Newtypism being capable of doing is amping up his Mobile Suit's specs even more ludicrously high, not anything that really enhanced his reaction time or anything.
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>>15014373
More the Unicorn than just Banana alone, but the NT-D system lets him hijack enemy funnels, use his brain as a wetware CPU for the Unicorn's AI to kill the enemy Newtype, generate psycofields for propulsion and defense, and disable attacking mobile suits altogether.

If I recall right it was also implied he's gone through some Cyber Newtype-like treatments prior to Unicorn's start to be as good at picking up piloting as he is.
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>>15014356
He tied with Gato with Gato only having a slight handicap. No way is he the worst.
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>>15014146
He had literally sortied once and got shot down
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>>15013751

I don't think Bellri is actually that weak. He's very creative in the way he fights (using his auxiliary armor as a distraction, grabbing the rifle to avoid getting shot, generally knowing how to optimally use his equipment). He only appears weak because he intentionally goes for subduing strikes rather than killing blows (going into melee with a long-range pack because sniping at range was too dangerous for his opponents). At the last episode he completely out-fucking-skilled Mask in the duel.

>>15013748

Banagher is honestly complete trash (as he should be since he got the least experience piloting). He's just sitting there letting the AI and the superior speccs do all the work. I can't actually remember any fights where he doesn't plain overpower the enemy using the Unicorn's brute strength.
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