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Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 2nd Season

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Episode 36 - Ver. 1.0
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Why couldn't we save him, /m/en?
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>>15009723
at least you waited for the last thread to drop
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episode preview pictures
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>>15009810
>so little things happening
typical IBO
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>>15009820
you fucking nigger twice blacked.

>MA combat
>cockpit means action
>fucking bugs
>teen fury
>dem horns

for fuck sake. obvious troll.

that's it, i'm buying the BD's and 10 more HG kits....

IBO is God!
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>>15009875
>I did not see every picture: the post
Most of those pics are generic talking shit
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>>15009820
>>15009875
>>15009880
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>>15009763
>implying he's going to die
Black knight always triumphs
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why is rustal calling Vidar/Juileta over the phone when he usually just goes to them and personally talks to them?
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>>15009896
Possibly on a different ship at the moment. Remember, it's a fleet.
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>>15009902
but why? cause they've been on the same ship for the entire series so far.

does that mean Rustal is going down to mars or does that mean Vidar is getting ready to go down to Mars to save Iok and Rustal is telling them the situation on ground zero.
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>>15009904
Could also just be he's at the other end of the ship and doesn't feel like waiting for them to walk all the way to his office just to tell them something when a simple video call would work.
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Wow can't believe they died
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>>15009904
They were in separate ships last episode
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>>15009875
Still need to get a Graze Ein kit
stupid character but i liked the MS
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>>15009891
best shot in all of gundam
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Lupus is getting new toys as of February...
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>>15009929
what? they're all in the same room when they have their big discussion then next time you see team Meat its Iok coming down to wake up the MA.
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Looks like Mikas been working out
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>>15009972
This makes me wildly uncomfortable for some reason, and not in a sexual way.
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I wish Dantalion was Mika's gundam instead of Barbatos.
That thing looks cooler
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I want to bully this guy into submission
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Is Iok Egyptian?
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>>15009875

Goddamn it Ein, you used to be cool.

Now you are Vidar though you are slightly better.
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>>15009934
>best character and I liked the MS

FTFY
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>>15009945
We sure they're for the Barbatos though? The picks are more the Flauros' thing right?
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>>15010062
Egyptians are blacks so ya he could be.
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Are you fucking kidding me right now?

I'd have a harder time believing Char was Casval or something fucking silly like that.
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>>15010281
that crow man was awesome. Love how mika just knew.


but iirc when it was airing many thought he was a long lost brother of McGillis since we just went through 2 lost brothers earlier in the show
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>>15010281
le expostion bird man CACAW xD
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>>15009896
because Vidar is going to come in and fuck Tekadan up in 2 episodes
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BD/DVD Sales
Gundam-san 1,102
Kidou Senshi Gundam AGE 2,270
Gundam Build Fighters Try 4,441
Gundam G no Reconquista 9,012
Kidou Senshi Gundam Tekketsu no Orphans 9,132
Gundam Build Fighters 9,351
Kidou Butouden G Gundam 10,167
Kidou Shinseiki Gundam X 18,237
Kidou Senshi V Gundam 21,428
Kidou Senshi Gundam ZZ 27,275
Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor 31,793
Kidou Senshi Gundam 00 S2 40,120
Kidou Senshi Gundam 00 44,872
Kidou Senkan Nadesico 47,860
Kidou Senshi Z Gundam 59,909
Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED 87,280
Kidou Senshi Gundam SEED DESTINY 93,276
Kidou Senshi Gundam 100,687
Gundam Unicorn 194,873
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>>15010305
or Rustal is down on mars calling them while he's getting in this thing.

the paint scheme is a red herring
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>>15010281
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>>15010308
Damn thought the # would be 0
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>>15010308
Ratings

*5.32% 1979 機動戦士ガンダム
13.12% 1981 機動戦士ガンダム 再放送(2月)
17.85% 1981 機動戦士ガンダム 再放送(11月)
19.40% 1982 機動戦士ガンダム 再放送(3回目)
13.93% 1983 機動戦士ガンダム 再放送(4回目)
*8.60% 1984 機動戦士ガンダム 再放送(5回目)
*6.60% 1985 機動戦士Zガンダム
*6.12% 1986 機動戦士ガンダムZZ
*8.06% 1993 ガンバレ!SDガンダム大行進
*3.89% 1993 機動戦士Vガンダム
*4.11% 1994 機動武闘伝Gガンダム
*4.25% 1995 新機動戦記ガンダムW
*2.75% 1996 機動新世紀ガンダムX (前半*3.51% 後半*1.21%)
*2.99% 1999 ∀ガンダム
*6.12% 2002 機動戦士ガンダムSEED
*2.09% 2004 SDガンダムフォース
*5.41% 2004 機動戦士ガンダムSEED DESTINY
*4.84% 2007 機動戦士ガンダム00
*4.47% 2008 機動戦士ガンダム00 2nd season
*2.05% 2010 SDガンダム三国伝 BraveBattleWarriors
*2.56% 2011 機動戦士ガンダムAGE
*1.64% 2013 ガンダムビルドファイターズ
*1.80% 2014 ガンダム Gのレコンギスタ
*1.42% 2014 ガンダムビルドファイターズトライ
*1.70% 2016 機動戦士ガンダムUC
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>>15010062
At least dearka is a competent marksman and egyptian
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>>15010361
Only noteworthy pilots he shot down were the druggies when they were mentally impaired.
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>>15010361
he was brown but was he really Egyptian? his name isn't egyptian and he's from the plants/coordinator
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>>15010380
He didn't kill the druggies. Yzak and Athrun did.
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started season 2 today, and so far all the new characters are unlikeable as all hell
like that edgy kid
>muh builth
>fuck mikazuki, hes done nothing to me but fuck him anyway
and what the fuck is with kudelia and mikazuki? is their relationship ever going to develop, or are they just gonna forget the kiss/crying thing ever happened?
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>>15010290
>when it was airing many thought he was a long lost brother of McGillis since we just went through 2 lost brothers earlier in the show
No... Juileta is his long lost SISTER!!!

>>15010312
>the paint scheme is a red herring
Kinda hope so, since it would piss McGillis right off.
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>>15010312
>>15010462

Why would it be beside the Graze Ritter?
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>>15010469
Rustal is there where McGillis parked his Ritter asking where he is.
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>>15010488
>Rustal is there where McGillis parked his Ritter asking where he is.
Better, he brought McGillis Ritter with him just to grind it in even more.
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>1-14
>Forced Drama
>Heero Yuy 2.0
>SEED Destiny more watchable

>15+
>That colony scuffle
>That hammy Char clone
>That hammy awkward romance comedy
>That hammy Hamman clone
>That hammy Garma clone who won't last 10 more episodes 100% sure
>That surfing on a corpse re-entry

wtf i love this show now
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>>15010442
So he is confirmed utter trash then?
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another FUCKING CLIFFHANGER
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Iok being off his fucking rocker is hilarious, if a bit pitiful.
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>it's a cliffhanger episode

I'm so mad right now.
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>>15010650
gross
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>>15010637
>>15010650
So the MA hasn't went down yet? I thought the spoiler said that the MA is destroyed in this episode?
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Hey it's that thing again
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>>15010722
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>>15010729
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IBO MS have anti beam armor
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>>15010713
The synopsis was bullshit, it said Vidar would come to Mars in 38 but he already landed this week and the cliffhanger is him confronting Sakurai.
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>>15010733
Ein's revenge: "This Time For Sure" Edition.
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>>15010766
I guess after many years of warfare they arrived at the conclusion to beam coat EVERYTHING.
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>>15010766
Kira's worst enemy
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>>15010766

Somewhat takes away from the threat of someone actually having a beam in the first place if everyone is immune to it.
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どう見てもライターはアホだ、ある意味相手にされてない
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>>15010840
Kinda like in KOTOR, once everyone got multiple layers of shields getting up close and personal with a sword becomes a viable option.
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>>15010840
We know that NLC is standard issue, but until now we haven't seen just how effective it is. If it's anything like UC's ABC, it only works a couple of times and still probably won't save you from a suitably powerful beam.

Given that we see the Shiden here taking the full blast of it, NLC is probably an order stronger than your average beam coating.

SEED's ABC equivalent, nano-laminate armor, was even weaker than UC's - Strike Daggers came with it standard, but still died in droves, and it never carried forward to its upgrades.

We'll have to see.
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>>15010766
I have no problem with the old frame surviving a beam attack.
Why would they beamcoat the new Shiden armor when there is no beam weapon?

And Ride should've died from the swarm.
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>>15010854

Told you no-one of any importance would die.
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>tfw those graze brothers all died gloriously

at least we had some great animated scenes of the graze finally
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HURR DURR BEAM WEAPONS
DUUUUURRRRRRRRR
these fucking youtube comments
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>>15009972
lewd

>NOW WE NEED SOME ATRA ASS!!!!
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So um, who pilots the Helmwige? I want to get the kit but no way Im picking it up if McGillis pilots it.
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>>15010880
its clearly his suit, he says so. however it looks like his 2ic is piloting it for the time being
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>>15010885
Great. I guess thats what I get for wanting nice things from this show.
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>>15010888
the gunpla guide has a nice saying

don't let the toy advertisement dissuade you from buying a kit/design you like
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>>15010833
The railguns will still work.
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>>15010880
im not sure about the position he is saying but maybe he'll paint it crimson like his previous ms
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>Iok lands a hit on Hashmal while going on about justice
>Hashmal stares right at him
>The very next scene he's in he's somehow in a completely different location and I guess Hashmal just didn't give enough of a shit to immediately vaporize him

That transition was weird.
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>>15010766
the MA can learn right? maybe it can make a powerful beam weapon with enough data
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>>15010840

Just watched the episode, it was ironic because the beam blast was reflected off Ride's machine and bounced around to vaporize an entire community.

MA's are targeted to population centers so there's no way in hell they can let that thing get into the city.
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>encounter both the Grimgerde like MS and Carta's old Graze Ritter

How mad would maskedGali be?
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>>15010875
I never understood the hate for beam weapons. I get hating the instant-win Strike Freedom beamspam, but beam weapons in general? Most Gundams have at least a beam rifle and a beam saber. It's not like the battles suddenly became boring or anything. I was digging that IBO was doing conventional weapons warfare at first, but I realized that it made the battlefield much less "crowded" and less colorful, at least for me. If anything, this show was a pretty good way to experiment on having most battles use conventional weaponry. What the result is a matter of preference, but it made me appreciate beam weapons a lot more. I hope the next Gundam goes back to having conventional and energy weapons used side-by-side again.
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>>15010713

No, the MA is self-repairing and able to build more Plumas so it's going around raiding bases for supplies. It routs the Grazes at the mine then leaves to hit a Gjallarhorn base which is totally raised and looted offscreen, then starts to move towards Chryse.

Tekkadan and McGillis set up an ambush but Iok the dumbass tries to snipe it and lures it off-course where it ends up finding and destroying a large food plant.
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Orga have another job for Shino , too fetch Flauros !
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CAWWWWWWW
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>>15010913
The beams feel less threatening now
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>>15010912
he will do princess carry with yamagi!
Co piloting in a crammed space.
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>>15010915

I mean, silly as it is that Ride straight up tanked that shot, I can sort of understand it because ultimately mobile suits were built to counteract mobile armors.

Still, though he didn't get out of that unscathed, it may downplay the lethality of beam weapons somewhat. Gotta say though that I honestly believed that he'd die right there in defense of that plant - didn't expect the blast to deflect around him.
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>>15010893
A good point. Maybe Ill paint it up like Carta's Graze Ritter and give it a red cape.
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>>15010905
>Helmwige will probably slowed down because using anti ship / anti MA equipment.
>meeting agile vidar with rapier.

I hope Gali realize mcgillis using graze ritter and focus his attack on him while buying time for helmwige too chase the MA.
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>Local kujan head continues to ruin everything.

>>15010840
>>15010918
Only the suits but not the squishy humans it wants to shoot at. And bonus damage points for the suit helping to spread the beam instead of outright blocking it.

RIP generic farming community.

>>15010872
And the not-graze too. They did their best to save that idiot, but damn they have resolve.
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Its nice to that the rebake is still using the dual smoothbore cannon.
Also lupus is using the new forearm cannon that comes in the hgibo option set
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>>15010930

Here, I touched that up for you.
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IBO Monster Hunter now?
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>>15010953
That should be the next gundam game.
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>>15010948
But he's not a local on Mars.
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>>15010960
Gundam: Calamity war

>I want a gunlance as the new gundam weapon.
>But what advantage would that have?
>We haven't tried that out against the MA, how would YOU know it wouldn't be useful?
>Oh and I want a sword taller than the suit too.
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>>15010729
>>15010733
So Ein is the haro of this show?
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>>15010733
Ein is watching
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If he dies I will fucking drop this show.
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McGillis seeing how the threat of MAs brought everyone together restarts the MA project
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Holy shit I am mad Ride didn't die. That beam should have flown through his Shiden like it wasn't there to demonstrate the nigh-unimaginable supremacy of these things.
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>>15010992

This was more fun, instead of just blowing him up it made him indirectly party to mass-murder.
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>>15010925
Gali going berserk and taking down Helmwidge only to get backstabbed by McGillis (again) would be a fitting end (again).

Question is, does McGillis know Galigali lives and is out for his blood?
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>Holy shit beam weapons
>Beams aren't effective on mobile suit.
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HAHAHAHAHA

Everyone's gonna hate Tekkadan now!
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>>15011002
It's like I'm watching Destiny all over again.
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Gotta love Mika's reactions.
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Shit wrong thread.
I'm disappointed we didn't see someone turned into a strawberry milkshake.
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>>15010948
Iok's blundering is actually hurting Tekkadan and McGillis more than all the rest of Gjallarhorn have managed so far.

Just goes to show, you can outwit and outmaneuver a cunning foe, but even a master strategist is powerless in the face of the destructive power of a complete moron.
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>>15010722
Ein is now fully merged with Gundam Kimaris. They used the tech from Gundam Bael with Agnika's consciousness. Only Rustal knows about Vidar and the advanced system installed on it which leads me to think that Rustal has Gundam Bael (Agnika) hidden somewhere.
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>>15011031
GOD THEY WORK FAST
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>>15011021
BURD IS PURDY.
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I would have liked it if Tekkadan lost like two or three guys this mission in addition to that community getting fucked. No beam deflecting. Have the Hashmal sweep its beam and suddenly Ride stops existing and two disembodied Shiden legs hit the floor on top of everything behind him getting fucked. Have one of the newbies die too. Maybe that pompadour coward or the gorilla looking guy since having either of them die could be used to develop everybody else(Tekkadan oldfags talk about how they wanted to give them a better life but now they're just being cut down like him and Aston+Earth branch, newbies talk about how he was their bro etc).

The way MAs and beams were hyped up in this setting it should be like if you are in front of a beam there is absolutely no saving you. But still, fun ep. Iok truly is the Patrick of IBO.
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>>15011039
I take it as the MA were VERY good at killing people but the mobile suits were very specifically developed with enough beam resistance to be able to take them on.
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Reincar?

Linker was cooler
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I'm amazed they managed to have an entire episode of nothing happening considering the mobile armor woke up.

Truly sugoi.
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>>15011046

Yeah but the Shiden isn't a Gundam Frame. It's an MS made in an era where 99% of people don't even know MAs were ever a thing. Why would it have beam resistance?
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>>15011039
I'm glad /m/ doesn't write this show
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>>15011051
Because its the standard material for nearly every suit, they don't have to know what it was originally meant for just that its the way they've always been made.
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>>15011046
Keep in mind that Ride's MS had its non-shielded hand completely melted off, and the machine had to take a few seconds to reboot.

Way as I see it, the problem isn't being able to tank the MA's beams, but rather doing that while you're being swarmed by dozens of sub units.
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and the spoilers were fake
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>>15011054

I don't know man, it seems like at some point during Gjallarhorn's 300 year supremacy some guys would have said "why are we rubbing this expensive crap all over the MS?" and then they would have stopped doing it, for costs, because all the MAs are dead and most people don't know they were ever a thing.

Shidens were made by Teiwaz too so it's not like some high ranking guy who knows the truth would be like "no, the anti-beam coating stays, just trust me on this." It's a little weird.
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>>15011036
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>>15011052

>the invincible Tekkadan actually losing characters is something objectionable

What's wrong with that?
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>>15011039
Now that's edgy as fuck
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Iok is such a magnificent retard.
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>>15011057
I think he lost his arm because the beam exploded his ammunition. It seems like nano-laminate is fairly beam proof.
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G-guys, my heart goes all dokidoki every time I see Vidar, what is happening to me?
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Could they seriously not have let Ride die?
How important is this shitter to the show?
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I will buy 10 Vidars if they don't have him job this fight.
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>>15011059
38 is not called Mizazuki Augus but Angel Hunter

MA will last 37
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>>15011078
We've already lost Takaki and Aston in one go basically.
There's not much boipussy left to go around.
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>>15010943
Here, let ME touch that up for you.
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>>15010930
>RIP generic farming community.
That suffering is pretty worthy of Kill Em All era Tomino
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>>15011085

>Takaki gone

Yeah, what a waste. But Yamagi should be enough.
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>>15011065
>>the invincible Tekkadan actually losing characters is something objectionable
More like Tekkadan loses characters every episode until the show is canceled because every main character is dead.
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>>15011095

>Ride
>anyone in Tekkadan outside Mika, Orga, and maybe Akihiro, Shino and Hush
>main characters

I'm not popping a murderboner, but there are so many superfluous hanger-ons attached to this bloated cast that could easily be dealt with, and yet because they remain committed to showing that Tekkadan is untouchable they don't have the balls to kill off anybody who isn't nameless or faceless.
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>>15011047
>>15011047
So what the hell happened to grimgerde armor thrown in the storage room? And why does mcgillis have the helmwige armor? Did another valkyrie frame broke down and he salvage the armor parts?
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>>15011098

The Helmwige seems to be an upgraded Grimgerde variant. It is probably not his. I'm thinking it belongs to the army he controls and it's like a ceremonial suit given to the highest ranking combat officer, which is why he said he's not allowed to pilot it but his fuckboy can.
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>>15011098
Reincar stands for reincarnation, I guess he had the new armor stored somewhere...

gotta wait for the kit in January or a in-show explanation
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>>15011101
Isn't it because they'd figure out he's actually the bird man if he pilots a Valkyrie instead of a graze
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>>15011097

Do you need characters to die for the sake of dying? The writers are obviously waiting for a particular scenario to get the most out of it, just like how Biscuit and Aston died.

Most gundam series have the major deaths during the final confrontation, e.g. Reccoa and Emma, I don't see why the expectation of it is constantly there for you guys.
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>>15011104

I don't know actually. I'm just assuming based on what the subs said. But it's not like there's only one Valkyrie frame, right?
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>>15011105

I'm sorry, pardon me for believing that this ancient nightmare-weapon would actually cause Tekkadan trouble.

It's going to last for at least one more episode though, maybe it'll actually do something that isn't killing helpless stationary targets then.
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Fun episode

>Iok going nuts jeopardising everybody
>That delivered Flauros
>Ride being selfless
>Isurugi getting Helmwige
>That Vidar cliffhanger
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>>15011105
>The writers are obviously waiting for a particular scenario to get the most out of it,

First off I can't think of many situations more right to kill off some side characters than an unstoppable ancient evil designed specifically to murder humans awakening.

Second, what about the "final confrontation" last season, where literally no fucking named Tekkadan character died and in fact two characters we all but saw die turned out to have been fine?

And third, it's not "for the sake of dying," it's because Tekkadan should have some characters die just to show that the stakes are up, that they aren't invincible and it's not always going to be easy for them, that they can fail. You can't just keep killing nameless shitters, there is no weight to it because those people are literally literally whos.

You don't seem to get it that this kind of stuff matters, that when you're making a group like Tekkadan the focal protagonists you need to be able to be invested in their story. And it's hard to do that when they're not particularly likable, not relateable, and don't even fucking struggle or face loss.

Not to mention this whole fucking setting from the beginning has been all about how the world is cruel and life isn't fair and people die like it's fucking nothing and then no one from Tekkadan dies. It's stupid.
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>>15011039
>The way MAs and beams were hyped up in this setting
they literally were never mentioned before 1-2 episodes ago
i'm sorry this isn't your favourite "beamshit one hit kills everything" show, but im glad battles won't be just a bunch of bright colors and explosions from now on
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>>15011120
>two characters we all but saw die
Not this meme again
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>>15011123
>i'm sorry this isn't your favourite "beamshit one hit kills everything" show, but im glad battles won't be just a bunch of bright colors and explosions from now on

Are you retarded? In this setting where no one has beam weapons, having beamshit one hit kill everything would actually make sense and add to the setting, because these things are supposed to be terrifying enough to start a war that completely altered civilization.
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According to the grimgerde manual there are 12 valkyrie frames total.

Only 12 not so much because its super powerful or hard to make or something, but because it got made at the same time as the gundams and got completely overshadowed by them.
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>>15011123
>they literally were never mentioned before 1-2 episodes ago

Yes, because they were so scary that knowledge of them was sealed, and what we do hear about them hypes them up. Fuck off, fanboy.
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>MA lasts more than 1 episode
>Vidar already touched down on Mars

Can't trust anything these days.
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>>15011123

Dude, these things killed billions of people and brought civilization to its knees. Hell, Hashmal won against Flauros in the distant past precisely because it was just waiting there, lying dormant, as opposed to being a pile of scrap. These are things that can go toe to toe with Gundams, and then because of writer reluctance, it can't even burn through a standard issue grunt piloted by a secondary.

You can understand why it makes things fall a bit flat.
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>>15011130
or maybe nobody bothers with beamshit anymore because nanlaminate armor is anti-beam, which is something that has been said since season 1
it's almost as if when develping something specifically to counter something you'd try and make it as resilient as possible to that something's strongest weapon
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>>15010766
But why would an MS built in the last few years when there haven't been Beam Weapons for 300 years have it. That just doesn't seem like an efficient use of resources.
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>>15011120


I know that most of you guys here have been watching Gundam for at least a decade. I know you are capable of recognizing trends. Therefore I know you are being silly when you are expectating major deaths before the last few episodes.

Try to recall how many focal protagonists in two recent Gundam series - Unicorn or fucking Reconguista died before the central/final confrontation.
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>>15011134
>>15011142

they are fuckhuge self repairing machines that can spawn children and whose AI's only objective is exterminating humanity, can you really not see how that would be a bit dangerous?
the ONLY issue you guys are having is that the ms built with the thing developed to defend against beamshit didnt get wrecked by beamshit.

at least wait for them to actually fight the thing before complaining
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>>15011148
>Therefore I know you are being silly when you are expectating major deaths before the last few episodes.

But I'm not. I would just like for some protagonist to die in this supposedly awful universe where anyone can die anytime and they are facing the biggest threat anyone in that universe has faced in three centuries.
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>>15010766
>>15011000

The MA was just hungover. Beamshit will be the same dsigusting OHKO motherfuck we all love to hate once it gets around to re-modulating its pewpew for Ahab reactor frequencies.

Ride was saved with the power of plot armor.
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>>15011148

>focal protagonists

Except that's where you're wrong, buddy.

G-Reco had plenty of character death before the close, and barely any actual character death in the finale outside of Chikara and Cumpa and some Capital Army extras, like Dellensen, Cahill, Barara and Rockpie. Unicorn had examples like Loni, Kirks, Daguza and Gilboa.

Those are secondary characters. Just like Ride, just like Chad, just like god knows how many other superfluous pilots Tekkadan has. There is no crime in killing them off for tension or drama or god knows what else when the situation is appropriate, like it was right here.
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>>15011153
>Ride was saved with the power of plot armor.

Yeah and that's bullshit and it's getting real old.
Tekkadan needs to take more losses and Mikazuki needs to actually lose a fight.
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>>15011120

>unstoppable ancient evil
>unstoppable

You know the MA's got fucked on by Gundams in the Calamity war right? This is just a relic from those times. Orga has said in this episode that he's not sure how they can beat it, and their trap has been foiled by Iok, as well as them having Vidar to deal with during/after their fight with the MA. It's not another "Tekkadan is invincible" scenario here.
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>>15011160
Vidar will destroy Lupus
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>>15011157

Who fucking cares, this isn't G-Reco.

>baaaawww stop bringing up your expectations from OTHER GUNDAMS guys
>baaaaawww you're wrong because remember this stuff from another show?
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>>15011165

I didn't say it was, and you're the chucklehead who's going on about trends. Secondary characters die in Gundam and die often, that's a 'trend' for you, and while it's not like IBO hasn't killed people, it's been everyone -but- Tekkadan who has suffered a loss of any importance, secondary or otherwise, disregarding Biscuit who apparently filled their quota of one remotely impactful death.
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Ride is still seen fighting Hashmal in the preview.

Maybe they are trying to throw you off by making him survive today only to die next week.

But I wouldn't trust them with this shit.

Isugiri is most assuredly dead though.
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>>15011157
you know if they had Ride getting the beamshit to exploding cockpit treatment people would be complaining about the cheap throwaway deaths.
i man, aside from the fact that it would have gone against estabilished lore.

and im sure a farming plant getting blown up and a city risking the same fate next week is in no way going to rise the stakes, because the only thing that matters is named deaths
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>>15011157

All those superfluous pilots are necessary for a central, final conflict between Tekkadan and Gjallarhorn which is why scenario writers in gundam have been killing characters in these central conflicts.

Yes, Ride should have died and yes, Ein should have slaughtered Azee, Lafter and Shino but you can't just have Mika fighting Gjallarhorn by himself. Are you just willfully ignorant?
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>>15011171
>you know if they had Ride getting the beamshit to exploding cockpit treatment people would be complaining about the cheap throwaway deaths.

NOBODY would complain if Ride died to the "beamshit exploding cockpit" because he would have died to the biggest enemy of MS in the setting, and the only thing in the setting at this point that had a beam ever, and because Tekkadan actually having some named faggots die would be a good thing.

You don't know anything about anything so shut the fuck up.
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>>15011174

>you can't just have Mika fighting Gjallarhorn by himself

I dunno, disregarding you putting words in my mouth the show routinely portrays him as being as invincible as the organisation to which he belongs, so I imagine he'd have a rather manageable time of it.
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>>15011174

Tekkadan has a bunch of new faggots and two other Gundams besides Barbatos, they could lose Ride and they still have three Gundams. In fact they could lose a Gundam at this point and still have an exciting "final confrontation" unless you're saying final battles don't work unless it's Gundam vs. Gundam only.

There is no way to defend Ride not dying.
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>>15010981

Because of his stupidity, a shit ton of people just got murdered.
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literally a filler episode
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>>15011180

They were just Martians, anon.
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>>15011176
>You don't know anything about anything so shut the fuck up.
that's cute from the guy who is complaining about ms built with anti-beam shit being anti-beam
and of course people wouldn't have complained about Ride, i mean it's not like people complained about Aston right
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>60 percent of the ep was just talking
Typical IBO failing to make anything exciting
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>>15011171
>and im sure a farming plant getting blown up and a city risking the same fate next week is in no way going to rise the stakes, because the only thing that matters is named deaths

Well, you know, speaking plainly, it's hard to give a shit about any habitation being destroyed if you don't care at least somewhat about the people in it.
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>>15011184

Who complained that Aston died?
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>>15011089
>more QUALITY
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>>15011184

No, because owing to IBO's masterful writing they saw his death coming a country mile away.
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>>15011187
Anime Suki and ANN aka the irrational fanboys trying to proclaim IBO is good/a success when it is far from it.
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>>15011089

Thank you kindly.
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>>15011189
I didn't, in fact I see nothing coming because the foreshadowing does not exist or is too subtle for anyone not a diehard otaku to pick up on.
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Wait, did they just debut the Helmwige just to job to Vidar?
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>>15011176

Are you one of those guys who gets really upset when anti-beam coating deflects beams?
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>>15011186
you must have missed the part where Kudelia said she wasn't going to evacuate the city that might get blown up like the farming plant next week
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>>15011184

Nobody complained that Aston died, dumbfuck.
In fact that whole Earth Branch arc was pretty good because those characters were unimportant, so some of them actually could die, and they weren't cold elite operators so they actually hard to fight hard and struggle, and there were real consequences.

It wasn't just people miraculously surviving with plot armor over and over again until Mikazuki, the invincible champion, steps up and one-shots everything without giving a fuck. It was almost like... like the show had real tension because their lives were actually at risk... in IBO? Unthinkable, I know, but they somehow did it.
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>fuck up
>lose all your skilled warriors
>tickle MA
>think you are the shit
>actually fucked up again

will they ever cut Iok some slack?
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>>15011182

I loved it, was a monster hunting episode and stupidity fucked it up for everyone.
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>>15011105
You are right about gundam series usually leaving most of the killing towards the end, but considering that the MA is supposed to be a really big deal, I'd reckon killing off some named characters would be a pretty good moment to drive that point, if not this week, then at least in next week's episode.
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>>15011174
I wouldn't mind if they saved characters so they can continue fulfilling a role like Takaki did, but Chad, Azee and Lafter to a lesser degree have had no relevance since their brushes with death.

I have some small hope for Iok and Ride to come out of the deal with some character development. Iok however doesn't look too promising since he already fucked up again in the span of a single episode.
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>>15011196

Really?

You didn't see the obvious coming in the wake of every crowbarred-in interaction between him, Takaki and his sister, or such brilliantly written things like Aston reminding Takaki that they both swore that they'd come back to Fuka alive seconds before he dies, or the mere fact that aside from Akihiro, Takaki was basically his only true friend in the group?

He was walking fodder.
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>>15011202
>It wasn't just people miraculously surviving with plot armor over and over again until Mikazuki, the invincible champion, steps up and one-shots everything without giving a fuck.
that is literally what happened a the end of the earth arc
you could at least watch the shows you shitpost about

and again, before crying about how the MA that just blew up what was basically a medium sized village is totally not a threat because the thing that was built to defend against beams defended against beams, at least wait for them to actually fight the thing.
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>>15011200

And that'd help if I cared about her, considering the show has sidelined her heavily.
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>>15011213
>>and again, before crying about how the MA that just blew up what was basically a medium sized village is totally not a threat

Your only method of "argument" demonstrated thus far has been to claim that people said shit they never said.
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Guessing Flauros debuts next week finally.
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>>15011214
legend has it Kudelia, being one of the 2 main heroines, is still somewhat popular in japan
i know most of /m/, me included, is rooting for the MAs to blow her up, but i kinda doubt that's a feeling shared by many outside 4chan
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>>15011204

Fairly sure /m/ will forgive him further because he's an enjoyably ignorant character no matter how many lives he gets killed.
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>>15011218

Well, you know, they won't kill anyone important, so there's even less reason to feign concern.
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>>15011216
its obvious
>Shino volluntering too scout the MA
>Orga said he have another job for shino
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>>15011220
of course the city isn't going to get blown up, but
they killed Biscuit and Fumitan in s1, have some faith
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>>15011223

>They killed people who had targets painted on their backs the entire season

Hoo boy, hold me, lest I faint.
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Finally not a filler episode.
So now we have 3 real episodes and the others are filler.
What purpose did even the earth branch have. Fucking stupid.
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>>15011197
>Galieo's colours are blue purple
>Eins colour is black
>Vidar is blue and black coloured

what did they mean by this
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Press F to pay respects to the many Grazes who gave their lives this episode.

Also, calling it now.

>McGillis = Bird Man
>Mika called the MA a bird
>McGillis has the means to produce and further develop old mobile suit tech (see Ein, the upgraded Grimgerde)
>Wasn't there to kill the MA/obtain the Order at first, possibly indicating he had other plans for it
>Seems to want nothing more than to live through the Calamity War
>Conveniently has ties to the one group around with not one but several Gundam frames aka the MA hunters of old

Also

>Teiwaz coats their new units for some reason despite there being no beam weapons anymore
>Teiwaz gives these new units to Tekkadan
>Teiwaz also rewards Tekkadan with a mine that just so happens to come with the MA in it AND another Gundam frame
>Mr Yakuza Boss Man seems to let Tekkadan do whatever they want for some reason / doesn't care about them getting all buddy buddy with Gjallarhorn / McGillis in particular

TOTAL COINCIDENCE. TOTALLY. DO NOT READ INTO THIS.

Also there is no way that Vidar will at any point end up allying with Tekkadan, bringing all the Gundam frames to one side, after McGillis is exposed as any kind of bad guy in the eyes of Tekkadan.
Or why Julietta looks like she could be McGillis biological sister and they're on opposite sides. Or why she and Vidar has been given more screen time together.
This is especially of no pottery importance when coupled with McGillis fiance being Gali's biological sister.
Iok definitively won't play any important role where having a dislike for MA will be of importance, and nor is his connection to the guys in Teiwaz who don't like the Tekkadan+McGillis team up significant.
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>>15011224
try lying down and have your mom raise your feet
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>>15011211
None because nothing was obvious if you're not a diehard otaku
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>>15011232

Or if you're not so dense that basic literary devices are lost on you and if you've read any fiction at all.

But, yeah, you know, let's just go with that. That's easier for you, isn't it?
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>>15011228

They finally did it. They perfected Gundam homo fusion.
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>>15011236
>literary devices existing
Go back to TVTropes
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>>15011230

I don't think McGillis had plans for it, actually based on what he said in episode 35 I got the impression that he wanted it to be buried again or possibly dismantled while there were no ahab reactors around.

Begs the question of who created MAs that have the ability to self-repair, and don't even need a pilot. Though I suspect there's something like ein in that MA
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>>15011242

hahaha oh wow
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>>15011236
who the hell let /lit/ in here?
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>>15011242

I know you're an idiot, but tropes and literary conventions have existed long before that website ever did.
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>>15011230
chocoman might get that non-gundam ms whose silhouette was teased a few days ago, which kinda looks MA inspired
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>>15011247
>trolling this hard
Nice try, I'm not falling for bait, samefag.
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Do people realize that if you stop using anti beam coating because no one is using beam weapons. Then the next person to use beam weapons will just job every idiot who decided to stop using anti beam coating.

Though it was kind of bullshit the beams miraculously hit the fucking town anyway. But I'm not mad ride survived.
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>>15011236
Your nerdom is showing, most people would never notice this let alone care. Foreshadowing is bad due to lack of predictability, now get over it.
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>>15011230
You are reading too much into this.
The writers don't give a shit.
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>>15009820
Holy shit I was right! Then again eps being mostly talking is what IBO is good at. That and awful storyboarding (how did Mika teleport to Kudelia's office and back?)
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>>15011251
would've been better had the beam just blown Ride away, but i kinda like how it looked as if Ride standing in the way just made things worse
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>>15011251
also the anti beam coating protects against ballistics and physical impact which was a side advantage of it. With this being 300 year old technology, its more likely that people applied it thinking it was anti melee weapons but it was an ancient lost recipe of abc
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>>15011251
nah, the beam is just pathetically weak
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>>15011050
see? that's why I didn't get my hopes up. that last episode was fucking awesome, but I knew they'd let me down. they always do.

fucking ibo.
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>>15011245
the same people that invite /y/ thinking there is fujoshi bait
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>Foreshadowing is bad due to lack of predictability

>Something that predicts/presages something else in the future is bad because it lacks predictability

What?
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>>15011262

Honestly, I would have been fine with it if Ride's mech had suffered more damage. Like, if he was alive but the beam flew through his shield after being deflected for a bit and destroying the town, and his mech was basically slagged and it was an unrecognizable molten husk with only the cockpit intact.

That way it shows that the nanolaminate coating does help, but all it helps you to do is survive and MAs are still horrifying.
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>>15011251
Pretty sure the coating has some other purpose, stopping beams is just a side effect
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>>15011266

> Tunnelled through a couple of hundred meters of Mars in seconds and then blasted a mile or more in to the air afterwards
> even split and deflected it burned a village to the ground
> it's just weak
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Wow Flauros, your beam was kinda weak all things considered, you need more fuel or an upgrade.
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>>15011272
Yeah, that certainly would have been an improvement.
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>>15011274

If it's that strong it should have at least killed Ride.
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>>15011274
Yeah, most beam cannons do more damage than that, all it has is a glorified beam rifle
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>>15011277
nanolaminate, son
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>>15011270
foreshadowing was never there
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Anti-beam coating has been in Gundam for a long time and it lets you survive beams, but that's basically it. It means your shield will last you one more hit, or one hit if it's a strong beam, but after that hit the shield is still done. The metal is still fucked up and warped. The sheer heat is just too much and there's still significant damage.

Ride's Shiden is still able to fight after taking that beam head-on and the only damage he has is his hand is gone because the gun blew up. I mean come the fuck on. He should have been 100% immobile with only the OS still functional so he can see himself getting swarmed by Pluma before Mika saved him. I would have been able to respect that. Instead he basically just shook that shit off.
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>>15011282
considering heat is nanolaminate's weakness, ibo beams probably have nothing to do with heat, somehow.
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>>15011260

Prior to that McGillis and Orga agreed to rendezvous and join forces to fight the MA in 3 hours. In that time, Mika went to Chryse by vehicle to tell Kudelia to evacuate (she didn't) and just got back to the battlefield in Barbatos. I don't have an idea of how far from the mine Chryse is, but it seems plausible enough that he's not teleporting.
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>>15011282
>He should have been 100% immobile with only the OS still functional so he can see himself getting swarmed by Pluma before Mika saved him.

Says who? That's not the rules of the show
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>>15011249

Confirmed Vidar upgrade. Silhouette even checks out with several parts of the Vidar design.
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>>15011063
WHat are the odds that the Mobile Armor, or another MA, is able to assimilate the Vidars, making them into drones that Awaken the rest of the MAs
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>>15011292

The V-fin/antenna looks more like S1 Grimgerde's than Vidar to me.
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>>15009723

God damn it, I wish the orange-haired kid died, but no, of course he's all right.
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>>15011288
They did make a point the MA moves purposely slow.
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>>15011296

The odds are 0 because this is pure speculation, I'd even call it fanfiction. Then again, the ability of the MA to self-repair is something that was just revealed this episode.

The main problem with your question is that the Awoken MA would just attack the assimilated Vidars due to their Ahab reactors.
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>>15011031

Damnit Iok. Stop aggroing the MA
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>>15011292
>>15011249
The text says that it's not a Gundam.
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>>15011260
Do you need them to purposely show you their travel time between locations? Its not hard to use your brain.

They said 3 hours and then you factor in that it was actually moving slower because the plumes are not as fast.
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>>15011296
>assimilate the Vidars
you mean the plumas? the shigens? the grazes/reginlazes?
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>it's an ancient weapon the nanolaminate can stop it
>they fight with literal tomahawks and shit
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Came here to say GODDAMMIT, IOK!
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>>15011339
>nanolaminate can stop it

It stops the beams and even then not 100%. You saw his mobile suit afterwards.

No telling just how powerful the shot was too.

The tenshi is fast as fuck and powerful as fuck with its claws/tails and overwhelming numbers. It likely can adapt too.
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>>15011304

Iok's idiocy is more terrifying than the Hashmal.
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no battle?
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>>15011354
It stopped 99% of it man. Only the hand was damaged because the gun exploded.
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>>15011230
You do remember that the same nanolaminate coating that it now turns out allows them to withstand beam weapons is also the coating that has allowed them to be really tough and able withstand loads of physical abuse. In this episode we just found out the original purpose of that coating, which makes perfect sense seeing how the previous episode revealed that MS were originally created to to fight MA.

It's really not illogical or a sign of bad writing that a type of weapon designed specifically to fight another comes built in with counter-measures for an aspect of said weapon.
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>>15011357

Probably fighting Isurugi next week as a distraction whilst McGillis goes off to kill-steal the Hashmal to get his achievement and further power.
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So the bit where Ride takes a chest full of beam and it rolls off him like water on oil is... interesting, to say the least.

Clearly he wasn't absorbing the beam so much as splitting it.
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>>15011274
>Hits a tiny Graze
>Doesn't even push it

What kind of weak beams don't even have a concussive force, or burn the nanolaminate off where ballistic guns, napalm and atmospheric entry will? I'll give them the benefit of a doubt, maybe its running in some energy efficient mode after centuries of a dirt nap.
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>>15011372

Was a selfless act but it still got dozens of people killed.

Suppose for his sake, had he not stepped in front of the shot hundreds more would be dead.
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>>15011374
The armor literally acted like a mirror and reflected the shot.

Calm your tits. We saw the thing take out quite a few trained soldiers with ease.
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>>15011372

Well the Shiden's chest does have the shape for that.
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>>15011380

The beam should still physically push at least if it can easily split the ground like when it was awakened.
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>>15010166

WE WUZ DUBS
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>>15011378

>hundreds more

Didn't the entire settlement he tried to shield go up in flames anyway?
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Well I guess that answers the question of why they don't use beam weapons anymore. Ride took that shot straight to the chest for a full 23 seconds and it just singed the paint.

I look forward to the butthurt in "who would win" arguments over IBO suits being immune to the best weapons in every other show. This is gonna be fun.
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>Ride didn't get killed
Of course he didn't, you can only die in IBO after having three episodes of death flags
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>>15011350
Yeah, like we didn't see THAT coming a mile away.
Yamagi has been floating up to Shino's cockpit in the OP the entire second season, they're def gonna be a couple.
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>>15011390
Maybe IBO beams are just weak
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Bored, started to build mobile worker, about 20% done.
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>>15011378
True.
But his failed sacrifice revealed that the beam is, for their purposes, mostly bark over bite.

As long as they aren't within line of sight of a populated area because the threat of collateral damage is very real.

But anyway, beams for mass destruction, Plumas for mobile weapon warfare and self maintenance. Hashmal is pretty well built for an autonomous siege weapon of mass destruction.
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>>15011278

The most direct parallel I can think of to this scene is the time Poe fired a WaDom's cannon at the field hospital in Turn-A (episode 22). Poe is using a WaDom specifically noted to be upgraded and using a better generator to give ti's beam cannon more power, and Loran puts up an i-field, that, like this scene, diverts and splits the beam - with the only damage being a few tent fires. And in episode 45 when Guin hits the Turn-A with a shit load of beam cannon attacks at once, they bounce harmlessly off it and do absolutely no environmental attacks at all.

Most beams from cannons do no real environmental damage. If they did, any battle that took place on Earth would leave the vicinity a scorched, slagged mess. The Buster in SEED fires it's beam cannons repeatedly during the Battle of Orb and leaves no environmental damage that is shown for instance. There are some exceptions, like the Apsalus blowing a large chunk out of a mountain in 08th MS Team and I think a beam blows away an asteroid in Zeta too, along with the obvious X and Wing beam cannons, which are specifically made and noted to be colony buster strengths but they're the exception as far as mobile suit/armor beam cannons goes and not the rule from what I can recall.
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>>15011397

Finally. I'm not even a gayfag I just want it to be resolved.

>>15011399

A whole town got fucked and it carved a trench through 10 miles of Mars like it was nothing. They're not weak.
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>people want this to be killed

Edgy monsters
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>>15011406
/m/ demands sacrifice.
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>>15011399
Not according to the previous episode. Hashmal cut a smaller trench than Virtue's Burst Mode, but that isn't really saying a lot when you consider how big of a shot Burst Mode was. The total amount of rock blasted out was probably a bit less than the damage Aina did to that mountain with the Apsalus, but again that was a huge fucking gun.

It's not weak beams, IBO armor cuts through beams like Nils Nielsen's katana.
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>>15011307
>They said 3 hours
when?
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Well, you know, at the end of the day if this whole 'Angel Hunter' sub-arc passes and Hashmal doesn't manage to do anything more than vaporizing defenseless civilians, I think we can say with absolute certainty that Tekkadan will be rendered completely impervious to anything up until the finale, and considering what happened last time even that's a stretch.
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>>15011406
I don't want Ride to die, I want him to learn from this experience. He's been one of the dumbest, most single-minded Tekkadan members from the start, all the while being a decent human being. Kid has room to grow.

I do agree that it kinda ruins the threat of a Mobile Armor if Mobile Suit grunts can tank their beam shots with their cockpit hatches.
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>>15011405

It doesn't singe or scorch any ground it hits, and doesn't even push Ride's Graze. Beams in IBO have some odd properties compared to UC beams.
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>>15010312
>>15011047
Looks like we finally have Ashura Temple 2.0
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>>15011418

Well, considering what he did, what should he learn? That he should sit and let doomsday weapons annihilate towns with impunity instead of trying to stop it?
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>>15011409
>>15011418
Standing at the beam or not would not change result.

The one who should have been dead is this guy.
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>>15011414
Right before Macky got in his car to leave.
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>>15011428
IBO proves once again it can be paced more quickly but refuses
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>>15011422
no, they're just really weak
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>>15011424
>>15011427
Ah, my bad, I didn't mean to imply what he did was wrong. Kid showed some serious stones hopping before the MA to protect the town.

I'm just referring to the fact that he's one of the most militant Tekkadan members, applying little kid logic to everything while piloting a weapon of war. Even the massacre that was the final battle of S1 and saw a good bunch of mobile pod pilots die horribly didn't phase him in the slightest.

Basically I just want him to realize the horrors of war without it breaking him. Approach shit a bit more maturily without going all angsty or edgy.
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Is IBO md geist now? Is Mika going to unleash all the mobile armors to fight them?
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>>15011404
>they bounce harmlessly off it
this did not happen, quit lying
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>>15011434
Except no they're not.
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>>15011437
MD Geist is awesome, never compare it to trash like this.
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>>15011440
Just ignore Mecha Talk and their special vintage precious nonsense they will not admit has serious problems.
>>15011441
except they are
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>>15011440

Actually, it did. The Turn-X's beams do absolutely no damage to the Turn-A of any kind, at all. What does happen is that Loran panics about being overwhelmed and uses the Core Fighter to escape, but there's no damage done to the Turn-A.
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>>15010900
I think he just took his shot and immediately hauled ass out of there, with the MA very slowly following in the same direction, which led it to the farming community.
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>>15011437

Flauros beam/cannon spam will clear away Pluma
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>>15011436
>Even the massacre that was the final battle of S1 and saw a good bunch of mobile pod pilots die horribly didn't phase him in the slightest.

Probably because they didn't really care that they were throwing their lives away.
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>>15011427

The first attack was simply naive, the second attack was just plain stupidity and it got many people killed.

He should be dead right now.
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WTF I WANT A PLUMA ARMY NOW
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>>15011445
No anon they're not. If they were "weak" it wouldn't have destroyed everything behind the mobile suit.

You don't know how that shit works in IBO. It literally reflected off the mobile suits armor. Light doesn't push a mirror when its shot directly at it.
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So MS nanolaminate armor does not reflect, but...refract beams? Don't they use this kind of tech in shields since forever?
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>>15011453
Exactly!

Orga's in the mindset of taking bigger and bigger gambits for big huge payoffs, Mika's still Orga's guided attack dog, the Tekkadan members are all at Orga's beck and call.

With Takaki leaving and last week's comments by Kudelia and her aide about the Tekkadan kids having no idea how to function in society, I really hope the series is moving towards a lesson. Tekkadan realizing their big "get rich" schemes aren't worth it in the end if you sacrifice everything precious to get there, while McGillis either accomplishes his grand plan but has nothing left in the end or fails at the last step by Vidar's hand.
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>>15011457

Light can also burn, and can't penetrate rock both of those things IBO beams do. It would seem like the properties that I can gather are low heat, high energy, little mass and high penetration.
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>>15011457
weaker Godzillas exhibit stronger beams and most beam cannons are stronger than the best Godzilla beam weapons
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>>15011455
It's a shame the kit comes with only one.
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>>15011446
No, it did minimal, there's a difference
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>>15011466

Well, you know, we all thought similar things in the lead-up to S1's finale, and then the finale actually happened.
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>>15011384
The ground obviously doesn't have nanolaminate coating so it's going to have to just absorb the energy rather than deflect it. The MS frame being designed to deflect blows and hits from ranged projectile weapons will obviously assist in deflecting any beams when struck with a beam weapon.
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>>15011473
Hi Toho Kingdom! Yes I recongize this logic, Gundam Wing is grossly overrated in the fantasy matches there while underrating your own monsters. Amazing.
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>>15011475
>leave hashmal near yout other gunplas
>next day all your kits are a gory mess and there are at least 30 plumas hanging around
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>>15010062
he's a poo in the loo, i think

Gjallies just like odd makeup....
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>>15011478

No, it did none. Nothing of any kind at all. You're welcome to post a screenshot to prove me wrong, but you can't, because I'm not. The only two times the Turn-A is damaged in the entire show is when Harry punches it's head about episode 14 with his gold SUMO and when the Turn-X damages it's chest in the last episode. There is no damage of any kind, not even the most minor and superficial to the Turn-A itself in episode 45 when Gym uses the bloody siege on it. It's Loran that is hurt (by panic), not the Turn-A.
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Barbatos should be renamed to Barbie considering how feminine this is
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>>15011486
you make it seem like Turn A is a mary sue, why again is Strike Freedom hated so much?
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>>15011486
>forgetting when Corin clobbered it and it took 15 episodes to self repair (partially because the animation is horrid)
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>>15011490

You make it seem like you can just make up whatever suits you to fit what you want to make a mobile suit rather than taking what's given to you. You can dislike or hate it if you want, but trying to act like something else happened simply because it makes it more digestable for you is silly. And again, the Turn-A was damaged by a much less destructive attack early in the show, so it's not like it's completely immune to damage. Also, it was damaged twice as opposed to the Strike Freedom's never if you're only going to use damage taken as a metric on which to decide your feelings for a suit.
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>>15011473
Please post screenshots of Gundam beam weapons burning through hundreds of meters of solid rock.
I can only think of Apsalus and Virtue. We saw an entire island engulfed in smoke after the DX's Satellite Cannon but you couldn't see how much damage was actually done to the island.

And the shot that Ride tanked lasted three or four times longer than the shot that blew right through hundreds of meters of martian rock.
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It's a particle beam.

Nanolaminate tanks physical damage real well. A particle beam, while ultimately damaging its target by inflicting thermal damage via the absorption of energy, still uses a stream of high energy particles to convey the damage.

It's still physical mass of some sort.
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>>15011505
>all this whining
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>>15011497

I must be. What don't you tell me when that happened, because I don't remember it at all. Harry clobbered it and it took about 5 episodes to self repair. I don't recall Corin doing that at all though. Or see how that impacts on the animation.
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>>15011490
>why again is Strike Freedom hated so much?
Because regular Freedom looked a lot cooler.
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>>15011510
>I don't recall Corin doing that at all though
He shoved a giant ass kanabo into Turn A's head, how the hell did you not remember that?
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Why is not-Nils such an awful pilot?
He is disgracing his lineage
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>>15011520
he isn't, the writing is just bad
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>>15011273
I'm pretty the nanolaminate armor they've been mentioning is like this universal "make-your-shit-stronger" material that just gets used on Mobile Suits that allows it to shrug off some bullets from a distance and survive what I'm assuming was an underpowered laser beam from the MA. It would make sense that the MA wasn't fully powered up yet since it had just awoken from sleeping for 300 years, or was aiming at humans and not a Mobile Suit
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>>15011517

I think you're confusing Corin's attack with Harrys. Which was to the head. Because while Corin did use a Kanabo, he doesn't actually successfully damage the Turn-A with it at all that I can recall.
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>>15011523
>he doesn't actually successfully damage the Turn-A with it at all that I can recall.
He blew off its mustache
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>>15011521

He fired one shot and ran away like a hero
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>>15011520
I'm less worried by Iok's lack of piloting skills and more worried about the man's lack of brains.

He basically shot a few times at a MA with zero effectivity and had all his soldiers sacrifice himself to get away. The way to repay them is to take -one- potshot at the MA later on, run away and be all "I DID IT I AVENGED MY MEN" without sticking around for one more second to notice the MA changing course to fuck him up. Which it drops one second later to nuke a farm instead, admittedly
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>>15011532
well sentai and riders do run away a lot
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>>15011522
>It would make sense that the MA wasn't fully powered up yet since it had just awoken from sleeping for 300 years, or was aiming at humans and not a Mobile Suit
If you weren't paying attention, sure.
They stated (and showed) that the MA raided the supplies near the mine, and then stated (and showed) that the Third Ground Base was also hit (pic).
There's no reason to assume that it's low on fuel when Ride tanked that beam shot.
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>>15011527

No, he didn't. I just checked his final confrontation with Corin, which is in episode 12 (the only time Corin fights against the "Gundam" after that is the paper mache model) and the Gundam has it's mustache in it.
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>>15011400
Looks good anon. I honestly wish there had been more Mobile Worker fights in this show like they had in episode 1
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>>15011245
could be /tv/
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>>15011506
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>>15011535

He's like Patrick Colasour but without the charm that made him endearing
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>>15011560
>anything in IBO that isn't Ein
>having charm
Pick one
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>>15011546
Good point, maybe it's beam wasn't designed to take on armored targets? It does have the Plumas and it's claws/tail
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>>15011546
how the hell did that eye get out of the graze?
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>>15011557
lol you should have watched that scene before posting that pic.
It doesn't penetrate at all.
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>>15011577
*didn't penetrate ROCK at all
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>>15011577
Toho Kingdom thinks Wing Zero can beat Double X in a fight
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>>15011587
this isn't the late 00s, I doubt they-
>remembers Inferno Rodan is a mod
Nevermind
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>>15011560

Would be cool if he survives all the way and he's the one who kills Mikazuki in the end. Shooting him in the back after the final battle or something, like a dick move Graham Aker.
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>>15011587
>Toho Kingdom
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>>15011051

Because MS were fighting MA before gundams were even developed
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>>15011575

MASSIVE FORCE TRAUMA!!!!

*metal riff*

did you also see 2 drills sticking out of the back? those did not go gently...
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>>15011623
>>15011623
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>>15010830
Maybe nano-laminate armor has innate beam coating? Makes sense since it is technically Calamity War-era tech.
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>>15010580
>>15+
>wtf i love this show now
Damn son, you're going to love Season 2...

>>15010733
EIN LIVES!!!

>>15010766
>IBO MS have anti beam armor
BEAMS CAN MELT NANOLAMINATE ARMOR!!!

>>15010840
>Somewhat takes away from the threat of someone actually having a beam in the first place if everyone is immune to it.
Yeah, but it's clearly not an anti-material weapon if that's the case...

>>15010904
>Just watched the episode, it was ironic because the beam blast was reflected off Ride's machine and bounced around to vaporize an entire community.
>MA's are targeted to population centers so there's no way in hell they can let that thing get into the city.
>>15010918
>Still, though he didn't get out of that unscathed, it may downplay the lethality of beam weapons somewhat. Gotta say though that I honestly believed that he'd die right there in defense of that plant - didn't expect the blast to deflect around him.
>>15010930
>Only the suits but not the squishy humans it wants to shoot at. And bonus damage points for the suit helping to spread the beam instead of outright blocking it.
>RIP generic farming community.
...It's a "Fuck EVERYTHING ELSE" weapon, something to vaporize large swaths of collateral assets in one go.

Best way to win a war is to break your enemies ability to fight after all.

>>15010872
>>tfw those graze brothers all died gloriously
>>15010930
>And the not-graze too. They did their best to save that idiot, but damn they have resolve.
Press "F" to pay respects.

>>15010965
>Gundam: Calamity war
>>I want a gunlance as the new gundam weapon.
>>But what advantage would that have?
>>We haven't tried that out against the MA, how would YOU know it wouldn't be useful?
Well Gunlances aren't exactly a new concept to the Gundam Franchise, but this is pretty much the exact purpose behind the GR-Hs01 16.5m Lance on Gali's Schwalbe Graze, an "Anti-Battleship Weapon," which itself was probably derived from the Kimaris' Lance.
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>>15011046
>I take it as the MA were VERY good at killing people but the mobile suits were very specifically developed with enough beam resistance to be able to take them on.
>>15011057
>Way as I see it, the problem isn't being able to tank the MA's beams, but rather doing that while you're being swarmed by dozens of sub units.
Again, these beams clearly aren't for anti-armor work, rather they're used to IMMOLATE ENTIRE COMMUNITIES!

>>15011060
>I don't know man, it seems like at some point during Gjallarhorn's 300 year supremacy some guys would have said "why are we rubbing this expensive crap all over the MS?" and then they would have stopped doing it, for costs, because all the MAs are dead and most people don't know they were ever a thing.
>>15011075
>I think he lost his arm because the beam exploded his ammunition. It seems like nano-laminate is fairly beam proof.
You see, this is Nano-laminate, the same stuff that makes Mobile Suits and Warships nigh bullet proof already, hence the widespread use of giant melee weapons in this setting.
It just so happens it was originally developed to withstand Beam blast as well, so since Beam Weapons are only good at killing EVERYBODY ELSE they were naturally not adopted.
It's like Nerve Gas from the first World War; Certainly LETHAL, but just too fucked up to use in regular combat.

>>15011104
>Isn't it because they'd figure out he's actually the bird man if he pilots a Valkyrie instead of a graze
Pretty much this, like how the Turbine girls had to swap the armor on their suits so Teiwaz wasn't "Officially" supporting Tekkadan, it so no one thinks to question the link between the two.

>>15011114
>I'm sorry, pardon me for believing that this ancient nightmare-weapon would actually cause Tekkadan trouble.
Dude, it nuked a damn food plant, their home town is probably going to have a famine until another can be built.
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>>15011230
>Also there is no way that Vidar will at any point end up allying with Tekkadan, bringing all the Gundam frames to one side, after McGillis is exposed as any kind of bad guy in the eyes of Tekkadan.
Most definitely...

>Or why Julietta looks like she could be McGillis biological sister and they're on opposite sides. Or why she and Vidar has been given more screen time together.
>This is especially of no pottery importance when coupled with McGillis fiance being Gali's biological sister.
I said this after we first saw Monkey Girl...

>>15011243
>Begs the question of who created MAs that have the ability to self-repair, and don't even need a pilot. Though I suspect there's something like ein in that MA
Yeah, I'm not really buying the idea that the MAs are simple Killbots gone rogue...

For one; WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD BUILD SUCH A THING?!
A Von Neumann machine grey-goo scenario is bad enough on it's own, let alone one where the machines' explicit purpose is KILLING ALL HUMANS!
Even someone NOT in their right mind would have a difficult time bringing and keeping together the necessary resources to build just the first one.

So that leads us to number two; For what purpose were these things REALLY made?

>>15011286
>considering heat is nanolaminate's weakness, ibo beams probably have nothing to do with heat, somehow.
I think we have to look more at Nanolaminate's direct counter; Napalm.

Napalm doesn't just burn, it's STICKS to whatever it's burning.

The Beam might actually be eroding the Shidens' Nanolaminate coating, but the exposure was short enough that it couldn't burn all the way through.

In other words, like regular ballistic projectiles, a Beam could kill an IBO MS, but only by literally hosing down on it for a few minutes.

>>15011568
>Good point, maybe it's beam wasn't designed to take on armored targets? It does have the Plumas and it's claws/tail
Exactly!
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