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Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam

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Zeta Gundam is good, but not as much as most people claim it is, i also continue to prefer the original series, in movie form at least. The Zeta series is famous because of how dark it gets and the resulting death toll, which was probably the highest for a Gundam at the time until Victory surpassed it many years later, but i wonder if you noticed at least a couple of characters who seemed to die only to survive or come back at a later date, to die again, perhaps, but still
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cute caracters
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Zeta is shit and it's not dark at all. Just because a few characters die don't make a show dark. In any case the deaths were poorly handled as expected of tomino.
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>>15008978
>but i wonder if you noticed at least a couple of characters who seemed to die only to survive or come back at a later date, to die again, perhaps, but still

Who, Four ? We never actually see her die. She just gets shot and gives a farewell message to Kamille as she betrays the Titans.

Zeta isn't good just for having some character deaths. It is more about the oppressive and neurotic atmosphere that the character interactions, the drugding ( but intricate and subtle when you notice the small details) plot that shows the conflict gradual become more and more desperate, the major difficulty that the protagonists are always having dealing with the enemy aces like Yazan, and the music, that all work together to create the distinctive atmosphere that makes Zeta so great. The death's add on to this a bit, but are not the main feature.
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Fa a sandwich
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Jerid was my favorite character this series
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>>15009653
Shitty taste anon
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>>15009653
>>15009869
Jerid was a disgusting like Reccoa
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>>15008978
>i wonder if you noticed at least a couple of characters who seemed to die only to survive or come back at a later date, to die again

Who. Four?
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Zeta is some of the best gundam show, as good as 079, 00 and G fighter
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>>15008995
>no cyber newtypes
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I'm 20, and I thought I was going to hate Zeta Gundam, because it is an old anime from the 80s and current anime has great CG enhanced animation that makes old anime look really bad, but Zeta Gundam was fantastic. It may be my favorite anime series of all time, better than Evangelion.
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>>15009898
>Four
Probably
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>>15010761
Rosammy as well. It wasn't clear whether she survived when she fought Kamille on Earth.
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>>15010752
>and current anime has great CG enhanced animation that makes old anime look really bad

IMO most CG looks awful in comparison to classic mecha anime art.

https://youtu.be/d1MlXmNSL7s

I don't think I've seen any mecha series or movie look this good in the last few decades.

Zeta looks pretty nice itself allot of the time
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>>15010752
Zeta has always had the best character designs in the 80s
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>>15010763

That's different from claiming that she died and then came back though. All we saw was that she ejected from her cockpit. It's not really a good reason to think that she died.
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Emma
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>>15010776
Yeah that post is retarded.
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>>15010801
A machine
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>>15010738
Now I can hear the first opening, thanks...
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>>15009653
Jerid,Yazan and Paptimus were the only good characters in that entire show.
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>>15009653
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From character to MS design i think its great. Also liked the music and atmosphere.
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>>15012366
4chn did a poll as well, and the majority said that Zeta was great.

So congrats, by not liking Zeta you are very contrarian. Good job.
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>>15012366
>>15012458
well, weebshits prefer cancer, yuri, waifufag pandering and self-insert into into a moeblob high school girl doing moe things, focused on high-school girl drama (note: 97% of them are men) over action, war, policy, strategies, tactics, mechs, mech action and self-insert into a Mech pilot fucused on mech action.
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>>15012645
>policy, strategies, tactics
None of those are present at any level in Zeta, you mouth breathing underaged fucktard. YOU. HAVE. TO. GO. BACK.
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>>15012645

>policy, strategies, tactics

With the very, -very- possible exception of IBO and the definite exception of some of 00 up until the political aspect got tossed aside, and that's being generous, none of these things have featured in the shows at all beyond their most basic forms.
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>>15012662
fuck off weebshit lunatic, see >>15012366 is here, are you blind, right? Please go back to weebshit
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but 0079 has policy, strategies and tactics
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Jerid was an Italian stallion
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Jerid a good boy
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>>15013036
Towards the end he had also lost his waifu
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>>15008978
Why does Zeta attracts so many shitposters and ragers?
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>>15010752
possible bait? I think CGI looks like garbage with typical TV budget compared to traditional animation.
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>>15013086
Stuff that is actually good always attracts contrarians on 4chan

People want to bitch about stuff online because their rl is so miserable

They don't believe in the sign of Zeta, to deliver them from the hard times
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>>15010763
>Rosammy
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>>15013610
How old Rosammy is?
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>>15012366
>>15012458
>Preferring Zeta to 0079

I don't know how people like that even exist.
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>>15012366
>MAL
Gundam Unicorn - Score: 8.40
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>>15013821
Why does this fanbase have such shit taste?
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>>15013610
39 yo
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>>15013193
I don't mind any Gundam. Even most AUs are better than Zeta.


Zeta is literally the worst 80s anime I ever watched.
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>>15014599
>Zeta is literally the best 80s anime I ever watched.
agree
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>>15008978
I plan to watch this series, so what the hell should I watch series or movies?
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>>15014637
SERIES
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>>15008978
This is why I left /m/. Only come back once every few months to see whats up, and its the same old "zeta's over hyped' shit.
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>>15014682
Gee it's almost like people have noticed that it's fucking garbage and are sick of it being a sacred cow.
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>>15014637
You must watch series
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>>15008978
OP the ending was incredible
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>>15013086
because there is a rager creating hundreds of hate zeta threads and replicating their own shitposts, see >>15008509
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>>15016020
Well, this is true, gundamrager and his repetitive hate threads are so retards
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>>15014582
>39 yo
fuck off, shes a MILF
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>>15016048
>gundamrager
All I know about it, it's that gundamrage has a giant fucking hate boner by Zeta and other gundam shows, a far bigger one than needed.
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>>15016003
it was shit
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>>15016097
NO, seed was shit
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Speaking of Zeta I am watching it right now, but I feel like I missed something, was there some kind of material that was released between Zeta and 0079 that I should know of?
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>>15016491
there is no kind of material that was released between Zeta and 0079
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Zeta Gundam
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>>15014637
The serie, shes much more complete
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>>15016491
0083 explains the gap between MS:G and Zeta, but it came out later.
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>>15017626

It doesn't really explain much of anything between those two shows. Rather, it just shoehorns a stupidly superfluous conspiracy plot to explain the Titan's existence when it was already obvious enough to assume that something as dangerous as possible remnant space nazi's should not be allowed to go unchecked.
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>>15016491
It's supposed to do that by throwing you into the action with little background. You'll catch on to what everything means as the story progresses.
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Zeta was great. Nobody is saying it is perfect you autists, it's simply one of the best Gundam has to offer.
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>>15016534
The sexiest.
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Newby to Gundam here, working my way through the series chronologically.
Just getting to Zeta now, about 8 episodes in and I'm liking it more than 0079, although I did very much enjoy 0079. (Although, 0079 around the middle was a real grind to get through, it felt like MOTW show with robots, but it thankfully picked up later)
The jump in animation/art-quality is honestly amazing.
But obviously I'm only 8 episodes in of a 50 episode series, so there's a lot of room for things to go bad, but so far I'm really liking it.
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best girl
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>>15018892
I just finished Zeta myself and... there will be some moments were it feels pretty slow, but up until roughly episode 25 it's a blast, especially after 0079. The third quarter of Zeta is quite weak (compared to the start anyway), but that's not the worst moment to be weak really.
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>>15016020
>>15016048
>>15016073
Fuck off, ESL samefag.
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>>15019273
>>15008509
>>15019201
Fuck off, gudamrage samefag.
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>>15014637
the movies are not canon
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Zeta wouldn't even exist if it hadn't been for Dunbine and L-Gaim providing the template. It also carried onto ZZ.
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>>15019362
>he actually thinks everyone who disagrees with him is gundamrager

You're just as bad of a shitposter as he is. Every fucking Gundam thread, you show up to screech about your little boogeyman in broken English. We have enough trouble with Getter threads and spicposting.

Protip: samefagging doesn't work when you have an immediately recognizable posting style (read: ESL grammar).

>>>int
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>>15019647
>He thinks it is completely normal to create 20 threads of the same thing every day.

You're just as bad of a shitposter as he is. Every fucking Gundam thread, you show up to defend your beloved Rager and their hate gundam threads using these generic buzzwords in the best style " xenophobic".

Protip: samefagging doesn't work when you have an immediately recognizable posting style (generic buzzwords + xenophobia + a giant hate boner for Spanish-speaking people: ESL, boogeyman, Plabo, Juan, Pablo's land).

>>>int
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What did the AEUG do with the other two Gundam Mk IIs that Emma helped steal? Even assuming one of them was modified into the Zeta, that leaves one unaccounted for
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>>15019907
Iirc, one was shipped to Anaheim so they could check out the morvabul flame and build usable transforming suits, and the other was stripped for parts to keep the AEUG one working.

Apparently they only needed one MkII worth of parts to keep it running through ZZ?
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>>15014599
>Even most AUs are better than Zeta.
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>>15020069
>pic
a biblical cartoon
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>>15014599
Hahahaha. You've only seen one then?
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0083 >>>> Zeta
Zeta feels really repetitive and aimless while 0083 at least feels like the characters have a goal instead of just randomly fighting each other in space for a good 50 episodes for no fucking reason.
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>>15010752
All the character designs were beautiful.
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>>15019907
>>15019980
>Apparently they only needed one MkII worth of parts to keep it running through ZZ?
yes, in episode 13 from ZZ
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>>15019880
>halfassed edit of quoted post
>still can't into grammar

Nobody's defending anybody in this equation, you mong. Everyone on /m/ wants both you AND your precious Gundamrager to die in a rape-fire.
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>>15020274

Have you considered paying attention to Zeta when you watch it ?
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>>15020491
You are supporting the xenophobic shitposter that hates the Spanish-speaking people and write using xenophobic terminology in your posts.

Anon, you are behaving like a retard. Shame on you!
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Zeta has some really nice fanart.
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>>15014599
nobody cares abour your shitty taste
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Zeta was as good as it needs to be in terms of delivering the story and setting up ZZ

It's terrible compared to 0079, excellent compared to ZZ, and obviously nothing can top the perfection of CCA.

It's a decent mid-tier gundam series
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>>15008978
Zeta is 8/10
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>>15013866
>Why does this fanbase have such shit taste?
well, they're not mecha fans
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OP1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQrDASSYKmw
OP2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSycojV_L1A
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>>15016536
Best looking gundam of all time.
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>>15021443
>and obviously nothing can top the perfection of CCA.
>hacked up High Streamers
>Perfection

Pff yeah right
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Zeta is pretty popular here in Japan
All the shows from the franchise gundam are focused on pilots and mecha action, Americans hate this, they prefer cancer and garbage over pilots and mecha action in his mecha shows.
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>>15024991
Elaborate.
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>>15008995
>Your head will never be oblonged by the weight of emma's ass

why live?
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>>15027294
>why live?
so you can see how girls change for individual cases as new trained bitches are used.
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>>15013036
>>15010896
>>15009869
>>15009653
Jerid is so beautiful
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>>15028077
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>>15028077
>Jerid
>beautiful
/m/ and his shit tastes
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>>15028318

He's handsome
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>>15028324
He's a ugly man, he looks a lot like Johnny Bravo
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>>15028356
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Rosammy is pretty funny
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>>15028376
he was a cunt
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>>15028089
Top 5 original character in Zeta tbqhf
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We'll never get an MC as good as Kamille.
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>>15028356
Too bad he was canonically good looking
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>>15008978
I appreciated Zeta Gundam for what it portrayed, the absolute mess that Earth and the Colonies were in following a war that saw the population of humanity literally decimated, if the show had featured the 0078 characters saddling up exactly the way they had when they were kids (and they were kids in 0078) then it would have felt weird, like no time had passed. The 0078 characters are clearly disillusioned and suffering from the trauma of the war. The multiple factions made the show a little hard to follow simply because you weren't sure who to root for, the Titans were made to be plainly evil but the AEUG kinda came off as terrorists, the EFSF was only a shadow of what it had been in 0078, that's something that contrasts sharply with 0078 - even when the line between good and evil blurred, it was still obvious that Amuro was the hero. Root for him and you're fine. You did not really have that in Zeta, i do agree that the mobile suit designs were off. I liked how the EFSF had absorbed the Zeonic research teams and that explained the presence of Hi-Zacks and some of the other Titan prototypes, I appreciated the evolution of the GM line in the GM-II and Nemo units. But other than the Zeta Gundam and the Hyaku Shiki, a lot of the new suits looked kind of dumb. Bound Doc is a great example - it looks needlessly complicated in a "Turn A" kind of way. Curious OP - have you watched ZZ Gundam yet? If not, I think watching that may inform your lasting impression of Zeta
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It is official:

/m/ love Zeta
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I preferred ZZ.
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>>15030164
Uso and Domon
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>>15008978
Zeta Gundam to me is the ultimate example of the creator's vision being compromised by the studio's commercial interests. It simply wasn't possible for such a complex and dark story to be properly told in the form of an 80s mainstream mecha anime that the studio viewed primarily as a vehicle for selling model kits.

The need to have a robot fight in every single episode crushed the storytelling completely. The way that logic and rational character behavior goes out the window as the script ties itself in knots to contrive reasons for the same set of characters to have the same battle episode after episode is really depressing.
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>>15030169
Jerid is just utterly stupid.
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>>15034503
Let me tip that fedora for you.
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>>15030164
>good as Kamille.
Mikazuki
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The hate on Zeta is so incredibly unwarranted. I really enjoyed it.
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>>15039322
It's nothing but ZZ fags shitposting. /m/en of true taste know that Zeta is the best.
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>>15039322
>>15039382
Unfortunately, /m/ is infested with a lot of faggots, weebshits and cancerfags who prefer yuri, moeshit and shoujo over pilots, wars and mecha action.
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>>15039581
Hey, I love Zeta but I also love shoujo shit.
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>>15029760
well, Rosammy is a great character design, being one of the most beautiful of the franchise.
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>>15039382

0079, Zeta, and ZZ are equally awesome and are the best gundam has to offer. Tv series only. Casuals who say otherwise can fuck right off.
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>>15040629

Nah, ZZ is pretty shitty. Victory is what ZZ should have been. Hell, it's an better climax to UC as a whole than CCA is.
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>>15041186
Nah, ZZ is pretty shitty.
fuck off, I like him
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>>15041186
I liked ZZ and Victory.
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>>15039615
>>15041246
Do you love everyone in this room?
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Help an autist understand, who can't into context
Why did Amuro say Beltorchika that she is dangerous?
Is it because she is kinda clingy, possessive and a bitch to everyone when it comes to Amuro. Why is she even so all over Amuro despite the fact that they met less than a week ago, ist it because of his status?
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>>15041521
Or wait is she all over Amuro and babying him, because he is vulnerable because of his ptsd and she is trying to fill some void or make her self feel better by doing that.
Is that why Amuro said that she is dangerous and what kamille meant with that they are just licking eachothers wounds?
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>>15041523
I came to the same conclusion.
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>>15042660
Four's mech is pretty cool
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>>15046186

I prefer the MK-II personally. It's a shame that all the buying options for it are so stupidly expensive, even the cheaply made candy toy.
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Anyone have link to the /m/ christmas carol? You know what I'm talking about. Can't seem to find it on Youtube...
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>>15046265
what's the best zeta gundam model? RG Zeta or MG Zeta 2.0?
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>>15008978
OP I really appreciate it, the episode 29 was my favorite.
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>>15047427
A difficult, delicate choice faces us.
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>>15046265
He looks really very simple.
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>>15047427
2.0

It's fantastic
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>>15022682
But Unicorn has mechs, what's the problem?
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>>15009887
TAKE IT BACK
TAKE IT BAAACK
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>>15048050
I like the thicker one better

But the skinnier one looks truer to the anime IMO
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>>15044201
ah okay cool, then I just answered my own question.
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>>15047427
>MG Zeta 2.0
how much does it cost now?
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>>15049889
$95
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>>15008978
OP Why is Zeta considered the best Gundam series?
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>>15052155
Quitting drugs can be hard, but it's worth it.
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>>15008978
OP Zeta, ZZ and 0079 are all equal, I feel thr juxtaposition between newtypes and oldtypes aren't used as effectively in a narrative as they could be.
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>>15010801
Emma a depressive cunt
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>>15009887
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Titans, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on AEUG, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top pilot in the entire EFSF. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth sphere, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across Gryps and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my Hizack. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Titans and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>15055958
>I’m the top pilot in the entire EFSF
That's because Kamille killed all your pals.
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>>15047427
The upcoming HG Zeta ought to be pretty nice.
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>>15056062
and very expensive too
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Why was amuro so beta in zeta, he goes from ultimate badass at the end of 0079 to turbo-cuck.
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>>15056992

PTSD

Also
>Amuro; ultimate badass

Yeaah right
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>>15056992
>Why was amuro so beta in zeta,
because Zeta is a Kamille show and not a Amuro show
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>>15055958
But that doesn't change that fact that he's a stupid person
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>>15058287
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The Titans were more compelling than any of the protagonists, especially the watered down 0079 holdovers.
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>>15056992
He crashed a plane with two survivours, pretty badass
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>>15058454

Jamitov,Scirocco,Gady,Jerid,Yazan they were all lovely people
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>>15058454
>especially the watered down 0079 holdovers.
Only Char, Amuro was a side character in Zeta
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>>15058464
>Yazan
He has become a comic relief character in ZZ.
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>>15014637
>I plan to watch this series, so what the hell should I watch series or movies?
I prefer the series over movies, both for Zeta and for 0079.
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>>15058621
are Zeta movies Canon?
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>>15058627
It's a seperate canon. Don't let Black Knight fool you
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>>15058635
>Black Knight
Who the hell is this dude?
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>>15058640
It's a shitposter disguised as janitor
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>>15058627
zeta movies are a total eyesore and really considerably fuck shit up
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>>15058627
Yes, because films are considered canon.

Look at how well A New Translation connects with Char's Counter Attack where any major plot hole that was created by the TV version going in is addressed by the movies.

It never did make sense why people get so irrational over it. Just because ZZ and Unicorn are no longer canon doesn't mean people are banned from watching or discussing it.
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>代替宇宙でゼータガンダム物語の唯一の新しい翻訳
just a new translation of the Zeta Gundam story in an alternate universe
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>>15058747
Thank you, I'll watch the series
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>>15058747
>citation needed
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>Paptimus Scirocco
What was your problem?
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>15058770
This is um stretch of one of the many translations made by karice67. Look for it on the animesuki.
>>15058837
Fuck Off Scirocco was the most interesting character in the show.
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>>15055569
>Several physical and hormonal changes occur with the menopause.
poor Emma
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I just finished ep 42 and i have to say that reccoa is the most evil and despicable cunt i have ever seen in an anime. Literally murdering millions of people because "muh feels"
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>>15058837
Space autism
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>>15059544

Reccoa was an extremely broken person.
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>>15059544
>remember the colony
Nina Purpleton is much worse than Reccoa.
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>>15059565
Nina a shit
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>>15059548
Not an excuse.
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>>15058662
You have two choices:

1.) Cite ONE fucking time Sunrise said anything gets "overwritten" by anything else.

2.) Kill yourself.
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>>15059544
Update: just finished zeta. What the fuck was that

>my main man jerid gets the most anticlimactic and forgettable death
>kamille gets stand powers before getting turned into a retard by space magic

Why not just kill kamille. Wha the fuck is the point. He don't deserve that

Atleast i think yazan got away safely. So that's good
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>>15060237
Tomino was in his "if I can't be happy, nobody will, not even (especially not) my anime characters".

"You kill your characters because the other option would be to kill your co-workers and you can't do that (right?). It's a way to push away murder and suicide tendencies".
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>>15014757
So, people are finally sick of Turn A Gundam?
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>>15060237

Jerid's death was fitting - he became more and more irrelevant as time went on. As he got consumed by his rivalry with Kamille, Kamille kind of just moved on. It is a great example of negatively symmeric character development. Kamille progressed as Jerid regressed. By the end he was nothing, and he died as nothing, just as he deserved.

Kamille got fried because Scirroco is a mean mother fucker. It fit the narrative quite well imo, the Gryps war was supposed to be brutal as fuck.
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>>15060673

Not really they just ran out of air time
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>>15047427
I prefer MG Zeta 2.0 over RG Zeta
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Where can I watch this, I can't find a website for it anywhere
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The show is merely "good" to me
the Zeta Gundam itself is my favorite mobile suit though.
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I liked how Kamille got to become jaded as fuck about the idea of newtypes being any positive evolution, thanks to having a newtype connection with people like Haman, Char, and Paptimus, where even if he perfectly understands them and they perfectly understand him, they'll still do evil bullshit for selfish reasons.

And then while he's the only guy who thinks that, he's also the only one who another newtype passes on their 100% accurate feeling of death and mortality to, completely fucking his head up.

Fuck newtypes.
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>>15060706
No, they didn't, shitstain.
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>>15059544
>reccoa is the most evil and despicable cunt i have ever seen in an anime.
which is not necessarily a bad thing.
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>>15061435
Please help me
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>>15061919
animestreams
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>>15058454
>The Titans were more compelling than any of the protagonists,
You're wrong!
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>>15061926
God bless you anon
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>>15061495
I think zeta gundam is one of the worst looking suits. Mainly because of the color scheme. It looks like a giant toy, even more than all the others
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>>15061522

Keep telling yourself that chump.
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>>15060673
>progressed as Jerid regressed

Yeah except for the fact that he got close to fucking Jamitov and then they decided to just randomly have him disappear and just re-spawn in the Bound Doc to explode.
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>>15062044
Jerid should have died in the fight before his death. It was a very good battle and him dying there would have been a perfect send off to him and also set up the seriousness of the final eps. I don't understand why they made him retreat only to have him show up for 1 min and jobb super hard. Very bad! There is no excuse.
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>>15062122
The entire Psyco Gundam MK II/Bound Doc thing was also horrendous it was so down sampled they should have just cut it out.

This guy went beyond jobbing jesus christ
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>>15061522

pfff yeahh
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>>15062132
These uniforms are adorable
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>>15016000
Why does that port side runway have two catapults?

Those things are supposed to go forward and then come back, the first one's return would block the second's launch.

You can see the track only goes so far before it had to be drawn back to the start for the next launch.
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>>15062144
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Dunno where to ask this but the close timeframe I guess fits.

During 0083 E9/10 a zeek fires a nuke at the feddie ships at solomon, how the fuck does this one nuke make the majority of the fleet explode? Nukes in space haven't destroyed so many ships before.

Even as bait, the Feddies got really fucking stupid about putting so many eggs together when they knew zeeks had a nuke and a fresh prototype.
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>>15062306
What is it?
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>>15062243
I agree
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>>15062044

Being Jamitov's random meat shield is not exactly an ambitious venture. Anyone worth their salt in the Titans had jumped over to Scirroco at that point anyways, as he was the new main antagonist along with Haman.

>>15062132
He was'nt a combat pilot, his main duties were to be Rosamia's anchor. Then he get psycho-fried when Rosamia died due to their NT connection. It makes perfect sense.

They could have done the Rosamia arc without the Psycho MK II I guess, but it is a cool suit, and it makes it more symmetric with Four so to get at the point the arc was making about how romances =/= newtype connections.

>>15062122
I disagree, Jerid had to go out completely meaningless - as nothing more than grunt to be tossed aside as cannon fodder. The more anti-climatic his death could be the better for his character arc.
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>>15064677
>Being Jamitov's random meat shield is not exactly an ambitious venture

Yeah getting close to the leader and him taking a liking to him was clearly nothing. Then the whole Haman going THAT MAN during the Gates of Zedan.


>Anyone worth their salt in the Titans had jumped over to Scirroco at that point anyways

Pretty much nobody in the Titans ever ditched Jamitov it was Bask whom they dropped you idiot. Fucking Scirocco takes control in a speech that goes pretty much OUR GREAT LEADER JAMITOV WAS KILLED BY THAT WENCH HAMAN WE MUST KEEP HIS GREAT VISION ALIVE.

You gotta love these Zeta fag head cannon nonsense spouters
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>>15065042
>Yeah getting close to the leader and him taking a liking to him was clearly nothing. Then the whole Haman going THAT MAN during the Gates of Zedan.

even futaba comments shit on this that and the whole I am gong to be the leader which they just pretended the viewers forgot about
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>>15065069
lol Kitazume

>作者はクワトロにこそ自己投影してそうだからそんなこと絶対させないだろ
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>>15010740
The cyber newtypes were girls because it worked for the dynamic with Kamille, and Scirocco's ambition was merely that.
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>>15060673
Don't be such a self-satisfied asshole. What makes you think you have the right to judge what people deserve or what they don't.
>>15065069
It's not so much that we were supposed to forget it and it's not so much that Jerid forgot about it as that he lacked realistic expectations.
In his position saying something like "I'm gonna become the leader" is not very different than a child saying "I'm gonna be the president" or "I'm gonna be an astronaut".
Jerid is a good, honest kid and he is actually not quite as untalented as some people here would like to believe but he is naive and lacks an overview of the situation - he honesty wants to fulfill his duty, believes that the Titans are "the good guys" and that there is such a thing as "good guys" and "bad guys". With this sort of mindset he could never become more than a tool. When reality doesn't fit your expectations it's only natural to become frustrated and confused. It's a sad fate but it's definitely not something he deserved. Those are just the ways of the world.
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STANDING
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I just watched the Dakar episode and I just realized, is this show actually hippy treehugging propaganda about how humans suck and that we should leaves the earth, because humans are literally the cancer that is killing the earth?
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>>15065367
What does it mean to have faith in Jerid?
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>>15065427
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>>15065427
I have faith he'll lose. And probably have somebody else near him die.
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>>15065042
>You gotta love these Zeta fag head cannon nonsense spouters

it goes hand in hand really makes you think
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>>15065441
He's destined to suffer for the rest of your miserable life
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If you thought Zeta sucked then let me introduce you folks to the real stinker, it might just be one of the worst pieces of junk I have ever read.
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>>15065480
whats wrong with it
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>>15008978
>Zeta Gundam is good

It isn't, nor is majority of Gundam.
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>>15065042
How could have being a random meat shield for Jamitov lead him to becoming the leader of the Titans at that point? Jerid had the benefit of living through most of the Gryps wars, so Jamitov assumes that he must be doing something right and assigns him as a meat shield. As a character he was'nt doing anything to further any goal but taking down Kamille in revenge.

>>15065042
That was a speech literally meant for faceless mooks/cannon fodder, pretty much all the named Titans were working for Scirroco at that point. Scirroco was taking center stage as Jerid was fading into obscurity.

>>15065354
>What makes you think you have the right to judge what people deserve or what they don't.

Because everyone has the right to make what ever judgement they see fit because we don't live in a totalitarian state.
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>>15066797
>That was a speech literally meant for faceless mooks/cannon fodder,

So majority of the army ok.
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>>15062243
>These uniforms are adorable
yeah
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>>15067720
they're pretty beautiful
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>>15066721
>whats wrong with it

Too much to list whats wrong with Zeta Define.
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>>15067727
Just the first few things that come to mind, then.
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>>15067750
>Just the first few things that come to mind, then.
(YOU)
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>>15066797
>Because everyone has the right to make what ever judgement they see fit because we don't live in a totalitarian state.
Of course, you have the right to have your incorrect opinions, you have the right to not care about the world around you and you have the right to not ever move your finger for anything or anyone. Because that's exactly what democracy means, no?
Everyone always knows everything when it comes to their rights and but no one has ever heard about such thing as duties.
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Is everyone in zeta autistic?
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>>15067750

Horrendous inconsistent artwork Kitazume is a shallow husk of his former self
Random changes just for the fuck of it despite having no real impact whatsoever example The Marasai was constructed after the Titans stole Rick Dias blueprints hence the cockpit is in the head.
Not sure if I can even call it a Quattro fan wank because Quattro does not resemble the one we saw in the shows at all it's a blatant self insert by Kitazume, futaba noticed this too.
Kamille does not even come of as a major character he feels like a side kick even within his own damn arcs.

But yeah ZZ Define is more or less confirmed despite the fact that they just in Hong Kong , oh yeah while we are it the Zeta Gundam debutes during this fight and Amuro is flying around in a Hyaku Shiki variant and I think the Nemo debuted quite a while ago too.
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>>15067843

Put it this way C.D.A was so bad it was good.

Zeta Define is just flat out embarrassing.
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>>15067843
>I can't even call it a Char fan wank because Char does not resemble the one we saw in the shows at all it's a blatant self insert
I wonder what this reminds me of.
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>>15067845
I disagree with this affirmation.
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>>15068906
CDA was comedy gold.
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>>15068910
nah it was just melodramatic shit
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>>15068929
nah it was just shoujo drama
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>>15067948
well, I believe that Char is a comic relief character in this franchise.
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>Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam OST 2 - Pursuit (Haman's pursuit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmhUeGvn3aI
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>>15013086
>Why does Zeta attracts so many shitposters and ragers?
Such a masterpiece attracts the wrong people for the role of shitposter.
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I don't think anyone who hates Zeta really knows what they're talking about. It's all bait.
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>>15071029
i agree
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>>15056033
Kamille had to give up His life on the war
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Kamille is my idol
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>>15073495
Are you an angry teenager?
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>>15073542
yes
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>>15073542
I'm pretty sure almost all of us were angry teenagers at one point in our lives.
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>>15073542
no, Are you an angry grandpa?
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>>15059544
>I just finished ep 42 and i have to say that reccoa is the most evil and despicable cunt i have ever seen in an anime. Literally murdering millions of people because "muh feels"
Throughout the entire series, she acts like a mature, responsible adult and valued member of the AEUG, then after she meets Paptimus she decides to betray them all because she's suddenlt upset that they treat her like a soldier and not a woman. (This is literally her complaint) so she runs off to be with her new abusive sociopatic psychic boyfriend, who gets her killed.
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Am I watching this out of order or something? I've seen the Gundam Trilogy and they have mentioned Amuro multiple times in Zeta.

Does a character have the same name or am I just confused about what the fuck is goin on?
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>>15075625
What?
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>>15075625
You do realize Zeta is a sequel, right?
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>>15075130

You gotta look at what she was doing for the 10+ episode before that. It is amazing how much of her dissatisfaction gets subtly foreshadowed before the actual incident, especially through her conversations with Fa and her relationship with Char. Her betrayal does'nt come out of the blue at all if you pay attention to her words and actions prior to it.
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Recently got into gundam and watching it as it came out. 0079 was genius. Zeta so far is more brilliant. I just hope they bring zakus back an masse cause they had ballin ass design. Just got to Zeta gundam and it looks sexy as fuck tho so still digging it hard.
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Honest question everyone seems to love zeta, but why?
I went in pretty hyped after the brilliant ending 0079 had, but zeta was a real slog to get through, by the end of the show I was so tired of all the characters their shit that I couldn't wait for zeta to be done so that I never have to see them again.
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>>15076456

From someone who is at ep 24.

I feel it has everything that made 0079 so good. Unexplainable relationships the get explained in between direct dialog. Character development that shows through action and indirect dialog. Better animation than 0079. Loving it so far.
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>>15076456

Zeta has this very weird and subtle style of storytelling embedded in it; It is the kind of shows where character arcs kind of stew in the background as the war ( which is kind of monotonous) continues to drag on and slowly increase in desperation and intensity. I find the second watch through is best because you tend to see all the subtle foreshadowing in future arcs better that way. The characters themselves are often quite multi-faceted and just bizarre and with enough internal conflict to make them interesting.

It is all about watching all the individuals fall apart and let their demons get the better of them as the war drags on. I think the directing was great, and the general atmosphere was very anxious and oppressive. I always felt at the edge of my seat in the battles because guys like Yazan were always real threats that even Kamille would have to retreat from. It also expands on newtypes allot which is interesting, has some very inventive battles at times ( though sometimes they are clearly filler and don't have that much effort into them) where a very large variety of quirky stuff happens to make them stand out. The soundtrack and animation are great and all in all Tomino seemed to hit his mark in making this oddly oppressive and dense show full of fucked up people repeating their mistakes and perishing due to them. Oh, and the Mecha design is top tier.
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>>15076172
>You do realize Zeta is a sequel, right?
I often think it is impossible to separate them.
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>>15008978
Bother series are very confusing and hop around excessively. Is 5 seconds of explanatory dialogue a little too much to ask.
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>>15070007
Nice

I love the track that starts at 1:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Gy2j0dM34&list=PL90B3D76EF669F49C&index=18
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Emma was a good woman
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>>15078302
Zeta had a good soundtrack
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>>15077908
It's amazing how you people go to these lengths to defend this poor excuse of a show just because it has Gundam attached to it.
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>>15076428
If you like the Zaku, you're going to love the Zulu from Gundam Unicorn.
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>>15077908
Nice post desu
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>>15077908
I like it.
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>>15008978
>Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam
I cannot tell you how impressed I am with the quality of the work and product!
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>>15078843
She was a shit
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>>15059544
She's just a Stacy who wanted Char Thundercock's dick.

>>15075130
>Throughout the entire series, she acts like a mature, responsible adult and valued member of the AEUG
>Says she wants to infiltrate Shirocco's ship
>Kamille says it's dumb and she'll get caught and force him to save her again
>Fa says "you go gurl, girl powah"
>people shit on Kamille
>Episode ends with Reccoa getting caught and Kamille saving her
>Everybody shits on Kamille
What a fun ride episode 28 was, and its consequences as well.
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>>15079659

Don't tease me like this man. I'm watching it chronologically and I won't be there until... some time.

And just as I pleaded for more zakus in zeta I got it in spades. Now I just want a competent zaku pilot again. Don't let them all be fodder for the evil newtype gods.
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>>15082774
>She's just a Stacy who wanted Char Thundercock's dick.
but Char is gay
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Better than Evangelion and that so called shit Gurren Lagann, for sure.
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>>15034503

You don't like mechs fighting all the time?
Don't you think love can bloom, even on a battlefield?
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>>15084691
He's one of those NEO-mechafags that have arisen with TTGL, Macross F, A/Z and these recent mecha shows with moe and yuri.
These NEO-mechafag prefer modern garbage over mech action.
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>>15010773
It's sad to know that Macross will never look like this again.
The Pachinko clips had a huge budget and the planes look like shit.
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>>15013801
IMO 0079 > CCA > Z > >>
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best couple
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Why is Kamille so naive?
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>>15047427
>what's the best zeta gundam model? RG Zeta or MG Zeta 2.0?
We don't talk about the 1.0 because it's garbage, the 2.0 however is a pretty solid MG, it also features the transformation gimmick but isn't quite as detailed as the RG, no where near as many detail decals either, so if you like a more plain look this works out in your favor, also a lot more sturdy than the RG, but also the most expensive of the two
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>>15087371
Because girls don't make good soldiers.
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>>15088285
this is true
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Zeta the series is excellent. Zeta the movies is kinda fun once you've already seen the series, but it's not a good way to introduce yourself to it. Go watch the series. It is probably the best of Gundam. It's not only worth it, it's worth getting into Gundam solely for Zeta.
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>>15092087
>Rosammy
Soft hair
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>>15090693
>Zeta Movies

More like Z grade god frey ho tier rubbish.
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>>15078843
Agreed. I miss Emma and her MK II.
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>>15090693
i like movies because of theater effects sex to my ears
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best guy
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Paptimus was not worth what Kamille lost to kill him. That bastard shouldn't have taken anything with him and died as ungloriously as Jerid did.
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Kamille and Fa
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>>15094617
gundam was so progressive for its time.
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>>15094280
Don't worry he gets better
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>>15094620
>gundam was so progressive for its time.

Hikaru was banging two girls for the price of one. And he did it 3 years before Zeta fucking Gundam. Macross was so progressive for its time.
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I didn't enjoy Zeta, after episode 20 it got way too slow and overly dramatic, a lot of focus on retarded characters, almost every woman in Zeta is irrational because the plot needs them to be, at the end I didn't care about everybody dying, since I only cared for like two or three characters

I really prefer Gundam 79, even if the Newtype stuff at the very end came out like an asspull.
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>>15094780
Yeah, but did macross have a lesbian as the protagonist.
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>>15010801
Emma was made for kamille, not the cap
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>>15008978
>Gundam had to ripoff macross in Zeta Gundam to stay relevant
Why is this allowed?
>inb4 b-b-but transforming mecha weren't invented by macross
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>>15093932
Too beautiful
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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