/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #1179

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>>14991015
Every time that part looks like the chest is part of the sword

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhDtQr21-9Y

>>14991098
If this song doesn't make it into V, we riot.

>>14991098
>we'll never get Mina with a purple Grungust, Grace with a pink one and Hector with a green one in OG
Just end me already.

>>14991098

I miss mecha themes like these, songs that actually refer to the universe or the titular mecha. I know its kept vague so they can sell it to the non viewers/players but it just hypes me up .

>>14991032
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

GUSTO GUSTO GUSTO

>>14991139
They still show up, eventually. It's a bit less common in the last six or seven years, but it does still happen.

>>14991119
>Mina's song will never be in OG
This is not okay.

>>14991119
>wanting Grace
>ever
No, fuck you.

>>14991182
Isn't she the one with the really shitty voice that isn't Pat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6BABrXtpzk

This just... seemed fitting to post, during these circumstances.

>>14991189
Yes. While most of the F/Final originals weren't exactly known for their high-quality voice work, Grace managed to be shitty enough to stand out even among that crowd.

And then they put a clone of her into Masoukishin, where she was every bit as fucking annoying.

>>14991207
RIP Dub Domon.

>>14991182
But we don't have any moeblobs!

I got a chuckle out of this.
Pay attention to Mark Funf during Triple Dock's Dynamic Kill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fzj89qrCTc

>>14991250
the good dum for Domon.

the guy in the DW games sounds too... rough

>>14991266
I fail to see the problem

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>>14991250
The dub VA died?

>>14991289
>The dub VA died?

Yeah. The good one from the anime:
https://twitter.com/hermitsherpa/status/805279848755122176

How would one go about figuring out which development team did which SRW games? Should I look for director or other staff members?

>>14991291

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...

>>14991296
Everything pre-Alpha was Winkysoft (except 64, I believe).

The Alpha and Z series were Banpresto/BB Studio.

The Nintendo handhelds and GC were AI.

Impact, MX, AP, and the OG games were TOSE.

XO, Neo, and OE were some no-name studio.

>>14991316
>XO, Neo, and OE were some no-name studio.
Why am I not surprised.

>>14991322
I don't know how they managed to pull NEO off.

>>14991316
V is being done by the Banpresto team?

Also X-Omega is Sega, of course.

>>14991316
Does AI carry through 3DS?
Thank you, good info

>>14991334
The 3DS is a Nintendo handheld.

...wait, did Winkysoft do Compact 3?

>>14991345
Hmm...

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B9%E3%83%BC%E3%83%91%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AD%E3%83%9C%E3%83%83%E3%83%88%E5%A4%A7%E6%88%A6COMPACT3

Tose did. The other Compacts too, it seems.

The Scramble Commanders were done by NK System and Beck. AI also did 64 and Gakuen.

No info on who did Card Chronicle, Mobile, and V for now.

>>14991375
>The other Compacts too, it seems.
Of course, those games (bar 3) were a lot more enjoyable than any of the shit Winky had put out, so it'd be strange if they were behind those games.

So FF15 was a fucking disappointment.

I never played FF12, how's that game?

>>14991390
Good setting, grindy as fuck.

>>14991381
Hey, Winky had a few games that were actually pretty fun. I'm quite fond of Masoukishin, personally.

>>14991328
The same way I manage to pull off looking like a sane and rational poster.

>>14991375
>AI also did 64

I thought that was the case.

>>14991391
The amount of grinding you need to do in XII is dependent on what weapons and stuff you want to use.

You can get around a good bit of the farming with a proper steal gambit but shit like the Danjuro and its equivalent in IZJS are a nightmare.

>>14991398
Had is the key word.
MK1 was kinda rough, but de grafix were pretty nice at least.

The DS/PSP remakes are better.

>>14991390
>I never played FF12, how's that game?
I like it, but be absolutely sure to play the IZJS version (it was released in Japan only but has a translation patch)

>>14991391
>>14991401
Doesn't 12 have some kind of weird Dragon Age style "program your party members to do the fighting" battle system? I don't really mind somewhat grindy games that have auto battle shit because I let them grind on their own while I do other stuff.

>>14991404
Noted

Ah well, it can't be as bad as 15. I'll go get 12.

>>14991408
Yeah you can set up how you want your party members to fight. Its really useful.

>>14991408
>Doesn't 12 have some kind of weird Dragon Age style "program your party members to do the fighting" battle system? I don't really mind somewhat grindy games that have auto battle shit because I let them grind on their own while I do other stuff.

If you're smart about it, you can actually leave the game entirely on its own and let them do their own thing.

>>14991328
They didn't. New Getter and G Gundam get half ass plot treatment and Iron Leaguer gets completely wasted.

>>14991415
Ganbaruger also gets a rather raw deal, and outside of doing its first episode and having Osekaiser I seem to remember Raijin-Oh not being very big - hell, they didn't even have Great Jaaku Satan!

Oh and Daiteioh was totally wasted and all the returners that weren't G have no plot and that sucks hard.

>>14991403
The graphics are pretty much the only thing that changed in the remakes, though. The gameplay and story were essentially identical.

>>14991427
Nah, they fixed some bugs regarding weapon upgrades.

>>14991415
Well, what I mean is "I don't know how the gameplay isn't a complete disaster and actually brings in some really interesting ideas to the series that I wish the mainline would import"

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Allow me to return to remind you once more

my limiters are always disabled.

>>14991434
A lot of the coolest things in Neo were either bad enough that OE did them significantly better, or were sorely underutilized.

Like all those fantastic and cool weapon properties don't matter when half the units get maybe one or two attacks that have a single one outside the gimmick units like Ryu Mage. And most of the on-map stuff was handled poorly, and was also used as an excuse to make half the game's attacks just be on map, which looks bad. And the spirit system had some serious issues even before you get into Daunt and Flash being hilariously and absurdly broken. And how the game had only one battleship ever and that battleship sucked despite Daiteioh being right there and there also being potential for things like the Good Thunder or whatever (would have made Goshogun have a fucking point on the cast list.) And Liger's mutually exclusive upgrades. And the fact that the terrible handling of the plot caused a lot of baffling unit choices. And the fact that spirit learn times and skill learn times were standardized and can and would go all the way up to 99 at times... though at least in Neo it's totally possible to get them. Because Neo's EXP gain was fucking crazy. Because level ups mean barely anything because stats are double digit things in Neo and you can see levels with no gains at all.

>>14991484
Was there ever a time when they weren't?

>>14991484
That's fine and all, but what is my army's theme song?

Apparently, the Mark deal might just be a ruse created by this Gilbertson guy:
https://youtu.be/ZA3QcicDM74?t=26m7s

>>14991484
Is this the sidequest where me and my ragtag team have to put your limiters back on?

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>>14991508
>Zero is a fucking jerk
No big surprise

>>14991492
>Standardized spirit learn times
That works since Neo/OE uses spirits with different levels so someone who gets Valor as their level 1 spirit basically just has a slightly better critical hit as a spirit.

It only gets janky when you start seeing people with Exhaust as anything other than their 4th spirit.

>>14991508
>Zero killed X even in real life
HOW DOES INAFUNE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>14991242

In regard's to Grace, she's voiced by Yuko Miyamura. Guess whom we recognize Miyamura for?

>>14991484
Doesn't that hurt?

>>14991526
Yeah, all four of the female originals' VAs are from Evangelion and Gunbuster.

Ring = Shinji
Grace = Asuka
Patricia = Rei
Mina = Noriko

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>>14991484
But Afendi.
If your limiters are always disabled, are they even limiters?

>>14991521
No, I mean, people learn spirits at the exact same time.

Look at spirit and skill learn levels across all Neo pilots. Look for the 1/25/49 that nearly every unit has.

http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars/Neo/Pilot_Database

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>>14991494
My limiters are only sealed in the Hanging Gardens of Babylon.

That is why I destroyed them.

>>14991495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmplZojOZJY

>>14991512
You couldn't enable my limiters if you tried.

>>14991534
That is the (((QUESTION))).

>>14991546
Such is the power of my magic.

Do you understand now, Kyodai?

>>14991551
Yes and I said that it only works because of Neo's spirits having variable levels preventing things like people running around with Soul at Level 1.

I have played the game you know.

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>>14991565
>Neo's spirits having variable levels preventing things like people running around with Soul at Level 1.

Not like Banpresto really cares about that.

>>14991570
Lu Bu joins at the point when everyone has all of their fucking spirits anyway.

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>>14991570
to be fair:
1. He's a secret
2. IT'S FUCKING LU BU

>>14991570
Most of everybody will probably have their damage spirits by the time you get Lu Bu, anyways.

>>14991561
Wrong, this is our theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l8zX6AGJeI

We are the chosen ones, the 運命の男たち. because even if this is our fate, I wanna get the chance

>>14991574
>>14991577
>>14991578
I know, just wanted to be silly.

More seriously, that thing in 64 comes to mind, where you can get Banjo on Stage 1 and he already comes with five spirits including Hot Blood.

>>14991591
Banjo fucks off for like half of the game and there's no backpedaling about the Lu Bu thing.

>>14991587
>Not fighting against fate

>>14991595
>Banjo fucks off for like half of the game

Even so, they still give you five fucking spirits on stage 1 where one is Hot Blood.

And there used to be great fun things like Dancouga coming stock with like three Yells and four Hot Bloods by level 10.

You know you could've just used Rio as an example, Hotblood in OG1 is like, her first or second spirit, but in any case, she'll have it by the time she joins in stage 8 or so.

>>14991599
Doesn't Rio join at like Stage 13-15 around the same time when you get Ryoto and Ryusei's about to get into the R1?

Stage 8 is around the time when Ryusei shoots down the nuke.

>>14991598
Stage 1 Hot Blood isn't comparable to Stage 1 Soul though. Although Daitarn in 64 isn't very good so Banjou having that is quite useful for him.

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>>14991561
I see it now.
Aye, the Solomon Engine of my 「SOUL」 is roaring, I shall dispose of my own limiters.

But before that, what do you think of the name قادر?

I'm working on my own game and I need some name for a brawler from the east that sounds magnificent enough, not having much knowledge of the language I stumbled upon this but it seems a bit too serious to use on a lighthearted brawler.
There's also a female character I called Morvarid and if I manage to balance the cast I'd like to throw in a magician too, but I'll see.

>>14991599
If I just wanted "damage boost spirit at level 1/before you get them!" there's tons of choices.

Even beyond Dancouga I can immediately remember Impact Bernie having Blitz/Surprise Attack and joining on Stage 1. And he's not even a bad pilot in that one, since he actually gets Soul at an ok level (after only South Burning and Norris, who get their Soul extraordinarily early, and Tsukumo who joins at the ass end of the game - he ties with Jack King)

>>14991606
Huh, she joins on stage 15.
Could've sworn it was earlier.

Doesn't Folka start C3 with Hotblood? Or was it Luck?

>>14991630
I think it was Focus, I can't remember beyond Hotblood in C3 being 1.5x.

>>14991615
>Stage 1 Hot Blood isn't comparable to Stage 1 Soul though.

It kind of is, since at that point having a load of damage extra is going to massacre any boss you fight, and at level 1 the difference between 40 SP and 60 SP is going to be a lot bigger.

>>14991630
Probably, I don't really remember. He gets it early though.

Getting Hot Blood early isn't honestly that impressive. Nor should it be the reason Neo gives everyone spirits at the exact same time with like five patterns for Spirit A (or B, or C, or D) amongst every main pilot and subpilot in the game, or the reason it does the same thing with Skills.

>>14991641
You can already bootyblast every early boss you fight in 64 since it uses Winkysoft's formulae and the originals are very much capable of one shotting things with enough will behind their backs.

Then when people like Avi-Ru and Drake show up in the midgame, your team should be at the Hotblood range.

>>14991615
>Although Daitarn in 64 isn't very good
Dude, most of the units in 64 were mediocre/crap because of the variable upgrade number and Winkysoft game design.

If getting Hot Blood early wasn't such a big deal then why did Banpresto go out of their way to shunt it, Soul and their friends down to the end of everyone's spirit sets?

And then we have cases of Banpresto dropping damage numbers down as well.

>>14991653
To be honest, even when we got out of the Winkysoft era, SRW still did things like Granteed having higher base damage on its attacks than reals that joined over 30 stages later.

>>14991616
It's a pretty alright name.

I don't think it's too serious, but I'm honestly pretty bad with picking out names.

Looking forward to seeing you complete this and release it.

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>>14991665
>Looking forward to seeing you complete this and release it.
Maybe I'll be finished by 2018-19, I'm a one man army doing art, music, design and programming alone, this will be the next SRWE.
But thanks anyway.

>>14991672
Don't sell yourself short, I don't like to see that.

I may show up to bully everyone in this thread, but I still believe you're all more capable and skilled than I am.

You've all got it in you to be the best.

Man cannot remake himself without suffering, for he is both the marble and the sculptor.

>>14991679
In the end, the only person who can choose our theme song is ourselves.

I'm thinking of finishing my third Z1 run, but how do I disable my autism that prevents me from finishing a stage unless I kill every enemy in the map and get the skill point as well?
It makes every stage take forever.

>>14991695
You don't.
Embrace it, anon.

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>>14991679
Thanks Afendi.
Once I manage to whip up something good enough for a quick show I might post it on Eternitychan alongside some other material, I'll take my time and pour my soul in it.

>>14991404
How's that port to PS4?

>>14991724
Its not out.

>>14991541
It's always so weird to hear Megumi Ogata voice female characters because I'm so used to her voicing guys. Same with Mitsuki Saiga.

>>14991732
And here I thought it was, thanks anyway.

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>>14991693
Yes but what's my theme song?

>>14991745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk8W_E-cDlY

>>14991706
This can't be

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>>14991758
No, no no no, no.

No.

Stop this behavior immediately.

Congratulations!
You have been granted a giant robot of your own to participate in the next Super Robot Wars!

However, as part of the agreement, your giant robot and its finishing moves must follow a specific theming: pasta.
How can you salvage this situation?

>>14991793
Well anon, I'd make my theme work for me.

My finishers will probably be something like Hell Stringer and Getter Poseidon's Net

>>14991793
I'd copy-pasta some attacks from other giant robots.

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>>14991819
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

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Something's been bugging me about SRW2.

There's a bunch of dummied-out but otherwise fully functional items in the data, right?

And the shop inventory is exactly the same from stage 8 onward, right?

How did Winkysoft drop the ball so hard on that front? But more importantly...

Could someone hack the shop data for each stage and reimplement those dummied items?

Think about it: Better stat-ups for the latter half of the game! Minovsky Particles at a point where you can actually afford them! Jet Scranders for the whole team!

But can it be done?
Seriously, has anyone with actual hacking experience tried to fix SRW2's crappy shop selection?

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>>14991759
I DWELL

AMIDST THE ABOUNDING LIGHT OF HEAVEN
>>14991793
>your giant robot and its finishing moves must follow a specific theming: pasta.

We're doing this shit right now

Gespenst MKII-L(asagna)

>Scuttlefish Missile
>Guitar Roche Saber
>Durum Cannon Type-0
>Jet Magnum: Alla Norma
>Spicy Meatball Claymore
>Jet Machine: Pattern Artusi

Combo attack with brown waifu: Cacio&Pepe

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Damn you, Lucas.
Anyway, here's Flying in the Sky as heard in SRW 64.
It's only appropriate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7BmaHAnSlQ

>>14991851
If you use Artmoney than you can give yourself enough money to buy Minovsky Particles. They have the same effect as the confuse seishin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb6voOO_noo

Has anyone ever made the math to check how much BS would it take to buy the Bazaar's entire stock in a single run in Z1?

>>14991935
It always makes me chuckle whenever I see a trailer/ teaser/ CM on Youtube with comments and ratings disabled.

>>14991935
GET THIS KUSOGE OUT OF MY SRW

>>14991935
>oOO_noo
Even they know

>>14992016
>oOO_noo
>O_no
>Ono
Daisuke Ono and Kensho Ono confirmed for next SRW

>>14991935
>P-Please play our game...
>P-Please...

>>14992040
Yeah, that's kind of the message of every game commercial ever.

>>14992059
NO WAAAAAAAAY
I DIDN'T THINK SO

>>14991935
They didn't even show any of the OG ladies.

>>14992084
Let's hope they keep it that way.

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>>14991935
>the characters are better animated than in the real games
Who allowed this

>>14992164
are you kidding me
those are ragdoll-tier animations

>>14991853
What the heck is that?

>>14991914
I was talking about a patch to fix the shops after stage 8 so the dummied items actually show up. Y'know, something everyone can benefit from.

>>14992164
They're more animated, but they aren't well animated by any stretch of the imagination.

>>14992164
The Live-2D effects aren't all that good

>>14992182
This meme ends here!

>>14992226
THE MEMES

>>14992213
>>14992216
You're right, I guess it only looks good far afar.
Still I like how they show the whole body, the usual screaming faces cut-ins are starting to get boring

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SO I guess there's no new art for J originals?

>>14992308
Aside from the Raftclans variants, no.

How do you like your EN costs? Z Style where units can reach up to 80EN on their finishers or OG style where finishers are usually 50EN at most?

>>14992343
Depends on the robot itself.

>>14992354
This is the time where you're supposed to elaborate further.

>>14992364
God Sigma in Z has insane EN costs, but because it has Trinity Charge, it can pay for that. Some robots get crazy EN cost finishers in the Z series but can get up to like 400, 450 EN or some crazy totals like the higher GL forms, and that's fine. In OG to get that much EN, you need 15 upgrades, so for the most part the attacks cost less.

How would you make single line MAPW (eg. Linebarrel's MAP in UX) more useful without increasing their range?

>>14992522
> without increasing their range
Add status effects?

>>14992308
You'll take your shitty low res scans from 10+ years ago and you'll like em.

>>14992522
Lower the en cost and will requirements, make sure it's post movement, etc.

>>14992522
Single line means it's focused so it should have higher accuracy and critical rate (none of that gay ass negative crit factor), and also have a bare minimum of 3 ammo so it's decently spammable and doesn't use resources that could go to other single-target attacks.

All else fails, make them, and not any other sort of MAP attack, be affected by Assault.

>>14992658
Wouldn't the wider MAPs be more accurate since the enemy wouldn't have room to dodge?

>>14992695
That's just all the possible paths the attacks can take.

>>14992708
Unless it's like High Mega Cannon or Apsalus's Map or whatever and fills the entire space.

Dragon Scale
Tiger Bite
Turtle Bullet
Bird Flight
Giraffe

What would you do if you "accidentally" walked into Amara's quarters and saw her pretending to be an idol?

Alternatively, what would you do if you had twin tails?

>>14992774
>what would you do if you had twin tails
>if
The same thing I do every night, browse 4chan and go to sleep.

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>>14992804

>>14992804
>>14992806
Please tell me there's a whole bunch of extra upgrades in Dunbine's armor

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>>14992806

>>14992810
No, Since this is EX

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>>14992811

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>>14992774
If I walked in on her doing that, she'd probably kill me.

And if I had twintails, then I'd probably touch them

>PS1 SRW EX
God no.
The SFC version was utterly broken towards one extreme, but then Winkysoft's "rebalance" fucked it all the way to the opposite extreme.

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>>14992830
Too easy?

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>>14992832

>>14992836
SFC version is incredibly easy, fucking everything has absurd damage values (Hyper Aura Cuts are universally 5000 base power, for example).
PS1 version axes like 3000 or more base power from pretty much all finishers and then axes a couple hundred points from everything too just in case, while everything stays just as bulky as it used to be.

It's essentially the same shit, but it takes god damn forever to down enemies. Also I think Kelvin Blizzard and Resonance Quake aren't P maps anymore, but I guess the former getting hit is for the best, a 3-8 P radial map is not, and will never be balanced.

>>14992842
uchuu spess numbah b

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>>14992842
>B IN SPACE

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>>14992842

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>>14992905
Uhhhhh

>>14992908
> E in air

>>14992847
>>14992852
Remember, it's not Goshogun's fault - it's the pilot who has a B rank.

>>14992917
That means it has a - rank, and the pilot has any rank that isn't -. It's functionally the same thing.

>>14992343
It really depends on how strong you want +EN items to be since they usually heal set amounts

Okay, Fuck SRW EX

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>>14992937
>fucking his game

>>14992937
Just play the SFC version, use the MK and F91 to beat Masaki's route so you can say you beat the game and then never touch it again.

VSBR has like 4500 base in SFC EX, PS1 version's around 1900 I think?

>>14992844
The attack power on almost-everything in the Complete Box is fucking horrible. It's not that EX is the only one getting hit by it, but it's probably the most-noticeable.

>>14992944
I never even bothered playing the complete box version of 2 or 3, just EX because I was curious about how it let you use the ISS right off the bat.
I still have no idea what that does, though.

Best one's gotta be Cosmo Nova, from 8000 to I think 3200 power.
Really the only good thing about the complete box is the removal of 255 cap to limit/EN, but the numbers are so fucked, I don't think you can even reach 255 anymore.

>>14992522
More damage or P I guess.

Like finisher tier damage so you basically get an uncounterable attack

>>14992943
I just wanted to play a 32 bit SRW with Grendizer and Raideen.

>>14992966
Play SRW4S, then.
And then cry when you realize it looks FUCKING IDENTICAL to SRW4.

Oh wait, not identical, the battle UI is green instead of dark blue.

>>14992975
It also halved the ammo counts.

>>14992976
Can't say I've noticed that.
Tomahawk Boomerans and S Mines are still 2 ammo, repairs and resupplies are still 5/3 ammo, and stuff like that.

>>14992975
>Play SRW4S, then.
>And then cry when you realize it looks FUCKING IDENTICAL to SRW4.
I don't see how that's an issue since it's a port
>>14992976
Okay, This is an issue.

What would you say was the first actually GOOD SRW game? Hard mode: No SRW Gaiden.
I'm gonna put my vote on Compact 2

>>14992983
4-shot beam rifles and shit. Original version they were 8 or 10, forgot which. It's been ages since I played SRW4(S) because I played it before I softmodded my PS2 and went apeshit on the games in that era to the point where I never went down to a "lower" system except for a few translations.

>>14992992
1.
F/Final

>>14992992
Alpha 1 is the oldest SRW I've enjoyed.

>>14992992
Gensou Shoujo Taisen 2

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Hotblooded, Something, Weird, Cool?

>>14992992
Do we count 1?

If not, F/Final.

>>14992992
There are no good SRW game

>>14993051
Serious, friendly, and hotblooded.
Theorist who likes the opposite sex.
Kinda weird.
Cool and nihilistic.

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>>14993073
>>14993077
Cool thanks.
>Goshogun
>On the first real stage.

>>14993077
>Cool and nihilistic.
With a wicked sensor of humor?

>>14993077
>nihilistic

kek

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>Balmar invasion delayed for 20 fucking years in OG because NASA can't find their planet coordinate

fucking when

>>14993119
>Pizza delayed for 20 fucking minutes because NASA can't find my planet's coordinates

K-KISAMA

>4S fixed up Amuro and Keith's theme songs
>Half the cast is voiced

What some good secrets for 4?

>>14993202
The Ball.
Ex-S Gundam

>>14993224
>The Ball.
08 MS team wasn't a thing until 1997, anon.

>>14993229
What?

>>14993234
The ball came from 08th MS team.

>>14993229
He means a normal Ball.

Not THE BALL that Shiro uses in 8th MS Team

>>14993240
No the ball was in 0079.
You mean the invinciball right?

>>14993245
Oh, Something from L gaim?

>>14993255
>from 0079.
??????

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>>14993229
>>14993255

>>14993292
Anyways, Isn't Four + Purus the way to go?

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as silly as some X Omega events can get, reminder that it could be worse.

it could be product placement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvaTAgkWy6c

What was the Ball Gundam from?

>>14993336
Crossbone: Skull Heart

>>14993318
Now that's just silly.

>>14993336
Crossbone Gundam Skull Heart. Umon Samon put a Gundam mask on his ball. Zeon freaked out, thought it was a giant Gundam. That's why Zeon made the Zeong.

>>14993339
>>14993345
> Skull Heart is in V
> Ball Gundam might be a unit/secret
Fuck yeah.

>>14993350
Yeah, it's probably a one stage unit like the CB Flag or Super Pack Klan.

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Making single line MAPW somewhat useful was a lot harder than I thought.

On a side note, its kind of funny how B Rank Land in games without a squad system is basically irrelevant unless its something like the force grounded stage from Nadesico.

>>14993370
I wish they let you keep the CB Flag like they did the 00 Raiser

They are saving VVV for SRW V3

>>14993380
It will be relevant in urban heavy games with tough grunts, I reckon.

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best dollar i've ever spent

>>14993552
What game gives you that badge?

>>14993554
MechaNika

>>14993552
> Mazinga
Is that what Sheldon from Big Bang Theory would say if he were an /m/ denizen?

>>14993556
http://www.steamcardexchange.net/index.php?gamepage-appid-384680
Also comes with Eva, Optimus, Metal Gear, Gipsy Danger and a really shitty "gundam" profile background

>>14993552
>not bazinga

>>14992963
CB 2&3 have Cosmo Nova at 2000 power
EX has it at 3400 power.

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Hey folks. So I've decided to give Super Robot Wars Z a go after having played and enjoyed Z2. That said, Z2 had translated menus, and my knowledge of japanese is too limited to get a good understand of what I'm reading.
I thought having played Z2 would get me through it fine, and for the most part it has, but I can't understand for the life of me how the formation system works.
Could a kind anon go in-depth on what each formation does? I can't really figure it out besides one enabling TRI attacks, another focusing on one target and the other having each member attack a different enemy unit.
Are there any bonuses to each I should be aware of?

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It's not that I get upset by your lewd posting.

I just think you're doing it wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k

This is how it's done.

What is the next possible inline series for OG?
Neo, W, Scramble Commander?

>>14993963
l,k

>>14993963
Alpha 3, W, SC2, more GB stuff (should be on GB3 now right?).

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>>14993734
There was this translated info sheet, but I can't find it, so.

TRI - Allows the squad to use TRI attacks (SO LONG AS ALL MEMBERS ARE STILL ALIVE). That criteria there is pretty important because it means TRI enemy squads are really easy as long as you make sure to take down at least one of them.

This is the formation you're going to be in most of the time unless your TRI attacks are shit.

Center - Everyone piles on the target squad's leader. Your wingmen deal 50% of their damage, making this formation kinda shit except for killing Shadow Angels because the only thing that kind of damage is going to do to bosses is give them more Morale.

The team leader gets an accuracy bonus and if any member of the team has a barrier, it'll be spread to everyone. In practice I don't particularly find those bonuses game-changing.

Wide - Takes 50% from ALL/TRI attacks. Each member of the squad attacks a different enemy - leader takes leader, teammates take teammates (at 80% damage.)

This is the 2nd best formation and still really niche because you really only pull it out if the boss is about to shit on you with an ALL/TRI. It's the best formation for the enemy because it makes you have to blow more TRI attacks to kill them.

There's also the Niche usage of having Wide dedicated using squads with Quattro's leader bonus, ironically to kill other Wide formations, but AFAIK there's only really two characters who have that leader bonus and are good.

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This is what happens when you play too much Moon Dwellers. I think its kind of interesting in a weird way.

>>14993963
The last game that got introduced was J in 2005 and XO in 06 (if you include remakes). For sidestory stuff that's Endless Frontier in 09.

So the newest additions would be
Alpha 3
Great Battle III
Scramble Commander 2 (2007)
Additional Endless Frontier stuff
Additional Ryukooh Denki stuff.
W

If Banpresto feels really cheeky they might add in Z1 (2008), K and Neo (2009 each). But those are highly unlikely in my eyes. We'd sooner get extra side-stories that were hinted at but no one really paid attention to.

They're also going to expand further on the J plot considering that with all of that name dropping by Jua-Mu. Same goes for GC and the Zuvork stuff (FF's Red Baran Schneil called the Baran Schneil Kai when?)

>>14993941
Afendi pls.

I've been patiently engineering my perfect waifu inbetween breaks, my lewdposting and lewd mastery is reaching unsurmountable heights.

Soon I shall ascend to higher planes of lewdness, I can feel it, it's almost palpable.

Leotards
Wet shirts
Swimsuits
Pantyhoses
See-Through Lingerie
Unbuttoned shirts
Hotpants
Belly Dancer outfits
Egyptian faulds

Tremendous power flows through my fingertips, awesome power meant to be used on glistening brown thunderthighs and minutiously sculpted asses and abs. Oh-Bari, sovereign of jiggling tits and asses, Urushihara, High Decan of nipples and pubes, their arcane knowledge flows through me, it grants me power unbeknownst to mere mortals, the supreme power of creation is no longer a secret for me, forget gods and devils, this age of man will make every wise man his own Pygmalion in control of his own fate.

In other words, modded Honey Studio is really good for drawing practice, especially when you can't find or afford a fit brown valkyrie to pose for you.
>>14993998
>They're also going to expand further on the J plot considering that with all of that name dropping by Jua-Mu.
Oh boy, I can't wait for dem Moon Knights Remnants and Neo-GC.

>>14994029
But can you wait to play as Will?

>>14994031
He makes a decent partner for Sakomizu

>>14994031
Yeah...no

>>14994029
>Neo-GC
But all of Gadisword that weren't Sieg/Sally/Fairey and probably Vought are dead.

Unless they decide to make up some remnant faction out of nowhere or say lol everyone evacuated before Zetsubou man nuked the place.

>>14991599
I miss OG1 Rio. I put her in the R Gun, casted Drive and had access to Metal Genocider on the first turn.

>>14994031
I probably can.
>>14994047
You gave yourself the answer, doesn't take much to pull off a "we were off on duty at the time and we've survived Tony's Zetsubou, now we're back and thirsty for some HBT splurge".
Though I doubt we'll see a Neo-GC, it's not even a popular entry in the franchise, I guess they'd rather focus on some new stuff, honestly, I don't think we'll see much of J either, they've written a perfect end to make them fuck off like the Shura, at least for a while.
Of course I might be wrong, it might even turn out it was all part of Euzeth's plan, but next OG will surely be focused on Factorsman and @3's plot and maybe introduce K or W, we'll see.

>>14994029
I'm just a tad upset that people responded to the bottom part of your post, instead of the first one.

Cause that's a great stuff right there.

>>14994074
>all part of Euzeth's plan
I just thought of Euzeth with the orgone and the lamalice on top of everything else he had. Holy shit.

>>14994128
We're waiting on the true lewd honed for over 12,000 years.

>>14994029
I'm a thigh-highs/ZR man, what do you have for me?

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>>14994128
Give them time Afendi, do not pity the unenlightened, for they do not know how to break free from the wheel of Karma.
It is up to us to guide them to a better tomorrow.
>>14994143
>what do you have for me?
Whatever you want, child.

For now I'm just messing around in Studio learning how to operate the whole thing, it's pretty complex, learning to use all the mods for more complex animations and posing is quite the workload and I'm just doing it in my spare time, it's great if you draw shit though, you can arrange models in a lot of way and chose the camera angle however you want it, it's bretty cool.

Have some SRW lewd I whipped up in a few minutes, it's pretty NSFW though, so be advised.

I'm also secretely trying to recreate my Master's Mogudan magnum opus in 3D, but don't tell that to anyone!

>>14994158
>Mogudan
Which version of Rei did you want anon?
I'm actually pretty sure that the nips already made all the Mogudan Reis.

Alright plebs, let's say MMX got in SRW.
What should X's theme be, Central Highway, X3's Intro Stage or X's Sky Lagoon?

>>14994183
Depends on the game that you're using.

Anyone have the Beach Dwellers CGs?

>>14994158
Nice to have a fellow partner in lewd. Though I don't have Honey Select anymore, kind of think I prefer Custom Maid 3D 2 in comparison, though I got bored of both after a while. Should probably check to see if either have any substantial updates to look at, though.

Speaking of my constant lewds. >>>/aco/1037291

>>14994183
Magma Dragoon's level theme. Or Storm Owl or Storm Eagle's.

>>14994190
Looks great Smutanon, didn't you mention that you had a few other artists working on stuff for you? That new Excellen/Xiaomu pic you had a while back comes to mind.

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>>14994177
You do not understand Anonymous.
What matters most is the pleasure of personal creation, if I so wanted I could just download the cards from the gallery, but it's not what I want.

I thirst for the ultimate pleasure of the fruits of personal, hand made endeavours, creation is what matters here.

Besides, I've always wanted to learn 3D sculpting and such, this is a good introduction, using 3D sculpting programs is too abstract sometimes, starting with some beginner tools feels a bit better and gives me an idea on how to translate 2D to 3D pretty quickly, I feel like I'm learning a lot really.

I've seen a few Asuka cards though, the results are so so and usually drop straight into uncanny valley territory, there's a few guys who're incredibly good, especially with the use of various morphed accessories, the many ways of Clown Noses are flabbergasting. With Mogudan it's pretty simple, you can get the right proportions pretty easily if you draw yourself and have some eye for it, the problem is generally the faces, it's pretty hard to not get into the uncanny valley and what might look good from a certain angle might look atrocious from another.
>>14994190
Honey Select should only be used for character creation, the real juice of the game lies in Studio where you can do all kinds of crazy stuff.
Custom Maid 3D is better if you're more into anime style graphics, which I don't dislike but find less interesting at the moment.
I've seen pretty nice mods of that too though, it looks like a neat little game.

>>14994205
Contact with the artist for Excellen/Xiaomu seems to have dropped off, I don't know if it'll ever go farther than what I shared, which is a pity since I want to get it colored, and pay the guy for his work and any future work I could get off of him.
After that there's an Excellen work from a new artist I feel isn't worth sharing and one that I should get a sketch of some time today. That's just the SRW stuff I have waiting, there's a few others in the wings.

>>14994183
I should probably find an answer to that question given what I'm working on.

I think Zero stole all the good themes

>>14994217
>What matters most is the pleasure of personal creation, if I so wanted I could just download the cards from the gallery, but it's not what I want.

I understand what you mean anon, I've been tweaking a Leona I've been making for ages now.I really wanted to work on another girl but until Leona's done I can't really move on.

>>14994221
>I feel isn't worth sharing
Not the first time that's happened, I wouldn't mind seeing the result anyway.

>there's a few others in the wings.
Well whenever you get any results I'd be interested on how that turns out.

I hope that new sketch is good at least.

>>14994183
I thought the themes they used for X in PxZ/2 were pretty neat.

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>>14994227
>I really wanted to work on another girl but until Leona's done I can't really move on.

I'm different, I usually put it on halt and then do something else, I've been trying to do some Masakazu Katsura girls for instance while jumping around my waifu, Rei models and such, I don't like to bang my head on a wall, I need to redirect my energies and little time to be as productive as possible.
I wish you luck though, I know how it feels when you can't get what you want.

Talking about lewds though, it's pretty funny how taste in lewd is often reflected in your taste in mecha or viceversa, Mogudan is all about that Neo Zeong for instance.

>>14994227
pen15forge if you really want to see it. Seems his style ended up clashing more than I figured, personally. I'm sure the rest of the stuff coming out will be alright, there's Excellen paizuri and some misc. stuff with Peach and Konata to wait for.
Also given how regularly you follow me my silly obsessive exploits, I really should get something done with Leona.

Assuming W, K and L are the next ones to make it to OG, can we assume their final battles will be arranged thusly:

L (mid game final battle)
K (Late game final battle)
W (Penultimate stage final battle. The final battle on normal)
An old Banpresto that no one expects (True Final Battle. It's Raodakia(sp))

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>>14994246
>it's pretty funny how taste in lewd is often reflected in your taste in mecha or viceversa
I'm not sure if I see it.

>>14994252
Outside of like SRW2 and that one OVA, all of the series final battles are done within the stretch of the games.

>>14994246
> I usually put it on halt and then do something else

That's kind of the main reason it has taken so long, I work on easier to make girls when I can't figure out how to make certain things work waiting for better ideas or more useful mods.

>>14994248
The picture works, but I think the coloring is a bit too dark for my tastes
That other stuff sounds pretty interesting.
Just make sure you take care of yourself Smutanon

>>14994255
What kind of girls do you even like anon?
The only thing I can think of when I see these is that you might be the DB guy.

>>14994260
*final stretch

>>14994246
But what if I like all mecha?

>>14994255
Do you like big girls anon?
>>14994268
Then you're promiscuous and lewd.
That's a good thing.

>>14994262
>What kind of girls do you even like anon?
Milfs I guess.

Though it's more like "anything except Lolis and non-developed Teenagers" - I'm not picky.
>The only thing I can think of when I see these is that you might be the DB guy.
Surprise!

>>14994277

Considering you have big bulky robots and slim smaller robots that sounds about right, all the big bulky robots could just be what makes you like MILFs.

>>14994262
The risk of taking new artists on, always a chance something will clash. Still, Excellen makes a good waifu as a basis for all these tryouts, even when they fail.
>make sure you take care of yourself
Bah, who has time to worry about tendonitis and gimpy feet when there's porn to buy?

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>>14994288
Hey you fool, I've had tendinitis a few months ago, don't you underestimate it.

>>14994246
>it's pretty funny how taste in lewd is often reflected in your taste in mecha or viceversa
Okay, so what does
>Raftclans, Jesta, VF-19, Tacit Ronin
say about my taste in lewd?

>>14994298
You like legs

>>14994298
You like Oujous, do you?

>>14994288
You really should be careful with any illness in general, it could get better or it could get worse. You really don't want to tempt fate.
Excellen is very useful for an SRW waifu choice at the least.

>>14994295
I exaggerate of course, it's a pain when it flares up and decides to hurt and lock up on me. Right now it's not hurting, but I'm still getting it checked on since the afflicted arm can't completely straighten out compared to my good one.

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>>14991291
Holy shit how did I not hear about this

>>14994308
Calm down anon, Mark Gatha's alive.

Gilbertson apologized since he wasn't aware that not many people knew that he meant that as a joke.

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>>14994307
Oh I know that pain, I've had my legs gone for a week due to that.
Pic related is your friend, just don't move your arm and use this regularly, around three times a day, it will get you back up in no time, granted you don't do anything stupid right after getting better.

>>14994302
Fuck. Figures.

>>14994303
Actually yes. I like the dignified, elegant type, though not necessarily ojou.

>>14994306
I'm trying, at least. Wonder why my body seems to have chosen now after all this time to start falling apart.
Yeah, for experiments with new artists I tend to default to Excellen, Xiaomu, or Tharja.

>>14994315
I'll keep that in mind, the topical stuff I've been using doesn't seem to have been doing much for me.

>>14994332
Be lucky anon, at least you have choices when it comes to medicine. I don't exactly have easy access to medicine.
Those are pretty good choices for experimental pics.

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>>14994319
See?
Your tastes in mecha reflect your inner struggles and pervertion, I should know, I'm a degenerate myself.
My favorite mechs are Orbital Frames, ACs, Valkyries, Dangaioh and Scopedogs.
>>14994332
The problem with tendinitis is that there's various degrees, even the light ones can be pretty painful though, usually light tendinitis can be cured pretty fast with either pills or various creams, gels or solutions, otherwise you'll need injections. Usually it's pretty hard to get strong tendinitis and I do not suppose this is your case, unless you have a tremendous pain threshold that lets you type at your computer.

I had a medium one and I got through it by using voltaren and ibuprofen pills. I was in L O N D O N at the time and bought some Nurofen there, it greatly helped, especially in dealing with the constant pain.
If it does not go away in a week or so go see a doctor, don't take it lightly.

Man, I sure love all these off topic talk!

Seriously, no one cares about your lewd shit, give it a break.

>>14994359
At least learn to spell properly

Your waifu is shit by the way.

>>14994359
Came here to post this.

>>14994313
That's a pretty crummy joke.

And I say that as someone who doesn't have any nostalgia associated with Gatha's roles.

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>>14994359
>no one cares about your lewd shit
Start a discussion then?
What do you want to talk about?

>>14994369
That's why he apologized the way he did, he realized he made a really bad joke and properly apologized for it.

>>14994370
It's the ultimate "I don't have a proper retort" response.

>>14994373
About how Winkysoft is pretty shit.
Was, I mean.

>>14993988
Thanks, anon, it helped.
On a sidenote, Gunleon seems grossly OP at the start of the game.

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>>14994377

>>14994374
Seems like a really dumb thing to even make a joke about. It'd be like someone commenting they want to hear Dan Green doing dubbing again and then someone just says "nah, he died in a car crash a week ago, didn't you hear?"

Shame about what did happen to ol' Dan, though, from what I hear.

>>14994380
Yeah, that's why it's a GENERAL.

>>14994379
Gunleon doesn't start with any gimicks other than hitting hard and being naturally tanky (slightly counteracted by its built-in HP Regen).
It starts getting outclassed in he midgame even with The Heat Crusher, but Pain Shouter's pretty good.

>>14994376
Okay bro.

>>14994385
I feel ya anon, I woke up to it and had a real bad time until I heard it was a bad joke.

>>14994386
I meant in regards to Winkysoft bitching.

Though now that I think about it, what happened to the guys who were working as Winkysoft? Iirc they didn't merge with Bamco, did they simply disband?

>>14994385
Okay I'll bite what happened to Dan Green

>>14994393
From what I heard, his wife died in childbirth to his kid(s? Possibly twins, I can't recall), and so he quit VA work to deal with that.

>>14994373
Literally anything other than lewd.

>>14994397
Alright, let's talk about how much FFXV sucks then.

What kind of crossover fun are you having in your fangames?

>>14994379
>On a sidenote, Gunleon seems grossly OP at the start of the game.
I guess in comparison to your gaggle of reals and things like Gravion being held back by its "build up morale" gimmick, sure.

It's just never reaches the silliness of stuff like End-Game Aquarion, really.

>>14994407
FFXI*

>>14994407
Well it does suck, a lot.
Like man, I've seen many webms and videos of it, and boy it looks bad.

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>>14994413
I know this is the crossover event everybody is waiting for.

>>14994379
Mostly because most of your other characters are still getting their shit together.

It kind of drops to good but not really stellar tier once the other MCs catch up though.

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>>14994420
I'm coming for you.

>>14994413
アラド and シン are best friends for no reason

>>14994413
None, because it's hard to create crossover events.

>>14994413
Domon and Guy are doing a Kings of Brave Hearts Special: HELL AND HEAVEN.... FINGEEEEEERRRRR combo against some poor fool.
And George De Sand is being an absolute gentleman with Katejina, Queen Himika and others, to see if he can sway sum fuckin' bitches to not be such shits. Himika even has a blushing portrait from one of the mid-episode cut-ins of Shin Jeeg, which led to this silly idea spawning.

I'm in a G gendum mood.

How will Terada put SRWW timeskip on SRWOG?

>>14994413
You don't even know.
Shit gets crazy.

>>14994531
"and then 3 to 6 months passed"
that's it, W's timeskip is short as shit

A good character redesign will make Kazuma not look like he was 14 at the start of the game and then bordering on 20 six months later.

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>>14994539
Could you give us a small taste of your implied madness, perhaps? Pretty please?

>>14994549
What happened to Hibiki on Z3.2 ending where he went to Cross Gate like structure?

>>14994549
He just had a crazy puberty.

>>14994550
What if Nine Ball and Z.O.E. are both controlled by the same system used by _____1, who's working with _____2 and _____3, but _____4 was trying to stop their plans, while _____2 and ____3 both work for their own hidden agendas using the ______5, which ends up being the location where you end up fighting all of the above so you can then take the Original Hive/Moon route split in the next stage

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>>14994507
That's cool. Especially the part with Himika, she's my favorite Dynamic Planning villainess.

>>14994556
That'll prove to be surprisingly promising. I only hope that the visuals will get spiffy enough by that stage.

>>14994531
Its just a few months, I think it was about as long as the timeskip in Blade. They can use it to sync up with Alpha 3's midgame timeskip after the Z Master shit/

>>14993734
If you aren't aware of it, be sure to take advantage of Brunom's LP.

http://lparchive.org/Super-Robot-Wars-Z/

Who will be the last boss of the last OG?

>>14994782
kono DIO
but no really, nobody knows, other than OGG, OG series always brings a brand new enemy unit as the final boss

What would you do if the main antagonist made your daughter cry?

>>14994782
Dark Hibiki

It's the only way they can have a boss more powerful than Advent at this point

>>14994793
What about that White Haired Ingram from Super Hero Sakusen piloting White Astranagant?

>>14994793
How strong is Advent?
Can Advent even destroy Cross Gate or Perfectio?

>>14994804
Advent can destroy every multiverse simultaneously
He is like ten gazillion Elder God Demonbanes

>>14994818
Proofs?

>>14994792
Cast Soul, of course.
And then I'd sent the fucker to the sun.

>>14994818
Isn't it supposed to be Galaxy in the description of Supreme God Z?

>>14994413
I combined two episodes of two shows to create the greatest show on SRW.

Kouji Kabuto And Ryoma Nagare Die In Magma.

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>>14994792
Jet Phantom his ass into oblivion

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>>14994792
NOW YOU DONE IT

>>14994422
Not bad, but considering your cast list, it could be better.

Now, if you managed to bullshit up an excuse for an Alberto vs. Loewe matchup, THAT would be worth getting excited over.

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>>14994413
Mithril, SPD, Lightspeed Rescue, the Maverick Hunters, and the SDG are all part of one big super robot cop group.

>>14994924
How do you go from Arm Slaves to Labors?
I'd figure that they'd be based on the Mechaniloids, if anything.

>>14994964
As lower cost versions, with Arm Slaves being usually issued to special forces and the armies just getting shitty Labors. I'm not sure whether it should be Arm Slaves -> Labors or Labors -> Arm Slaves, though.

>>14994858
Comparable to an unspecified number off galaxies, yes.

But we're meme-ing right now

That's right.

I have recalled the ancient name that I was known by so many centuries ago.

The stream of power is bursting forth into my veins.

Kings you may be...

BUT KNOW THIS

I AM AN EMPEROR

FACE ME

COME

CHALLENGERS OF TIME AND SPACE

GUUUUUUUUWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>>14994996
Excuse me, sir, are you aware that your chuuni-license expired two months ago?

I'm going to have to ask you to step out of your vehicle, sir.

>>14994996
You don't stand a chance against me, Sahibgi, I have summoned the strongest shitposters in all of existence, the 3 Gods of Vaporware, Otaking the Sky Dragon, Finlander the Tormentor and the almighty Winged Dragon of Raeon Genesis!

Is there some place archiving all the illustrations and event scenes from cross omega?
I don't want to play the game but interested in the story.

>>14994413
Ibis becomes a member of Celestial Being after Setsuna saves her, Tsugumi and Saji early on

Arado and Seolla takes part in the SEED Destiny Gundamjack and wind up stealing a Huckebein instead.

The Balmar War happened at the same time as Tekkaman Blade TV, SEED TV and Gundam 00S1.

Alright, what if we threw every series that has been in SRW before into one game?