/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #1177

I'M SPACE WOMAN

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SELECT YOUR GRUNGUST

>>14980808
Purple. Or red.

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SRW when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl_nTjNkf8U
I do love me a good villain song.

>>14980838
That's not an Eva, that's a fucking Metal Gear.

>>14981010
yeah, note the "SHINKAWA" at the bottom of the pic

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>>14981023
Oh right, this was the concept art.

You wanna know why MX/OGs's music just seems so much better than everything else from the PS2 era?

It's because they fucking cheated. While the music is still made of midi sequences, a lot songs use huge segments which just play entire pre-recorded parts for instruments rather than playing the instruments in real time like a midi.

MX's Yume iro Chaser? All the trumpets in the beginning, as well as the guitar is pre-recorded. OG Trombe? The entire guitar solo is pre-recorded. Time Diver? same deal.

In the Alpha games, the only places where you'd have them use samples like that would be whenever they have those voice cutins like in Yuusha Ou Tanjou, otherwise all the instruments are played through sequencing which is why they sound a lot more synthetic and midi-like compared to the other games.

>>14980808
Really wish they gave us the option to recolor some mechs.

>>14981042
> In the Alpha games, the only places where you'd have them use samples like that would be whenever they have those voice cutins like in Yuusha Ou Tanjou, otherwise all the instruments are played through sequencing which is why they sound a lot more synthetic and midi-like compared to the other games.
Is that the same for One Winged Angel in FFVII? I always wondered about that as all the other songs in the game don't have any voiced parts, and then in FFVIII they added even more songs with voiced parts.

>>14981117
Yup, pretty much.
For sequenced games, everything is basically a midi that calls upon different soundbanks, which store the actual sounds for each instrument.
For your typical instruments, these soundbanks consist of just the instrument sample of all the notes on your regular 12-step scale in different octaves (ie do-re-mi etc.).
However, they can basically put whatever samples they want in and they don't really have to follow the note per se. Meaning, for the choir voice "instrument" for One Winged Angel, each little "eehh" and "aahh" and "SEPHIROTH" was stored as different "notes" that would play when called for.
Exact same deal with your "GAO GAI GARs" and your "CROSS FIGHTS" and what have you.

>>14981117
Also would like to note that, some games, as opposed to sequenced music, use "streamed" music, which basically just a prerendered mp3 which isn't played in real time.
Think of it as like, a prerendered FMV vs an ingame cutscene.
Sequenced music being the way it is the whole reason channels like SiIvaGunner can make silly midi edits that sound completely accurate to the original in the first place.
Naturally though, the PS2 was the last system to used sequenced music (and even then only half of the games on the entire system did), which is why said group can only do midi edits of older titles.

This is the third of the laser blade themes in STT.
Which is your favorite?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bVxkQVUhLg

>>14981152
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EfMuSiuI0

>>14981139
That also explains the GOs in Ryusei's GBA OG theme (and, presumably, the @3/OGs versions). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Xh66iBTvc

>>14981146
How do they get the "streamed" type to loop properly? Does it just come down to good editing?

>>14980951
Straight out of Paper Mario.

>>14981034
Damn

>>14981042
>the music is still made of midi sequences
This seriously need to fucking stop. I'm not buying an OG ever again until they stop this shit.

Now someone explain voiced GBA games like Tales of Phantasia.

Or Mega Man Zero but on a much smaller scale.

IF THERE IS EVIL IN THIS WORLD, IT LURKS IN THE HEARTS OF MAN

>>14980838
>>14981034
Looks very... "vaganish"...

>>14981164
Works the same way as sequenced, really. They just set a precise point where the song loops again once it reaches its "end".

>>14981180
First they record the voice lines.
Then they compress it to really shitty quality so that the gba can actually play it.
Then they store it as a sound file that plays when the game tells it to.

>>14981195
That's it?

Thanks.

>>14981199
I presume SRW doesn't have it for one of three reasons
1 They didn't feel it was worth it with shitty audio quality; Why bring in original VAs for a few voiced lines that sound garbled?
2 They didn't have the space for it; SRW doesn't seem like it has the budget for great compression and it puts a lot in each game
3 They put the budget elsewhere

>>14981235
SRW GBA games, I mean

Working on my fan made SRW Project.

Using M.D Geist, I need a theme to give Geist.
(I can not decide as this cartoon soundtrack is god tier.)

Any ideas, Thank you.

>>14981240
CAN'T STOP

What would you say about an OG whose unit specializes not so much in dealing raw damage to the enemy but sabotaging their unit to make them take more damage from all sources as well as weakening their overall damage dealt, for instance?

>>14981274
So a debuffer?

>>14981292
Yeah
Their damage wouldn't be stellar, but they would act as more of a support oriented unit.

>>14981240
>Using M.D Geist, I need a theme to give Geist.

Remember, anon, HE'S JUST A SOLDIER.

>>14981300
Would they be like an inverse Basara or not quite as overpowered?

Progress on L is coming along ok. I'm hitting my grammar books a bit to help with the translation speed.
Kind of wish I chose D to translate a little, 200k less characters and cooler series

>>14981317
I'm really glad you're doing L.

>>14981317
Hang in there, friend, your work is appreciated. Wouldn't mind if that became a future project, but we have to hope L doesn't burn you out by that point.

>>14981313
Well within the context of how I'm programming it, their attack would apply somewhere between 5-25% armor debuff (range impacts balance), meaning all allies would be dealing more damage. So in that sense, it's sort of like buffing an entire team, yes.

http://gematsu.com/2016/11/media-create-sales-112116-112716

>Lots of normies complaining about UC only no buy
>Still sold much better than Moon Dwellers
Is there any hope for V? Will it get over 200k? Or is this the end for SRW?

>>14981347
V isn't OG-only and thus has some shit JP normalfags care about, so possibly.

>>14981347
>Super Gundam Wars - V (with no Voltes V)

Easily 200k sales

Screencap this

>>14981300
Patlabor Units in OE or UX Hind Kind I guess.

The big problem is that you usually don't need to debuff anything that isn't a boss

>>14981347
Norma wouldn't buy a G Gen anyway

>>14981324
Thank you, that means alot.
>>14981325
my dream would be to do @/@2 (depending on where aeon is at) or Z, but right now those are slightly far off

>>14981420
Fuck Aeon, they're never gonna do jack shit.

>>14981422
>>14981421
God fucking damn it I double posted again. It keeps telling me the captcha was done wrong but posts anyway

>>14981347
OG is OG. Moon Dwellers is 3rd or 4th in the series depending on how you count it, and G Gen is appealing to anybody who likes UC Gundam.
I think SRW V has a good chance because it has UC Gundam, plus Yamato 2199 and Mazinger and other stuff that pulls nostalgia buyers in.
The big question is how much of the 200k was the Gundam name/advertising itself, as opposed to just "TRPG with Mecha from anime"

>>14981408
>UX Hind Kind

I think you mean Decieve. Hind Kind is the most consistent damager from that series early game (see also everyone who keeps getting Yamashita as a top ace early on.)


The serious issue every debuff unit in the series faces - and there are quite a few - is that if the game isn't actually hard, they're pointless.

>>14981432
SRW Z3 Tengoku sold 259k first week across PSV and PS3. Not sure if being a series finale helped or hurt.
http://gematsu.com/2015/04/media-create-sales-4615-41215

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SRW when

How much did @3 sell?

>>14981444
466k
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/38564/Japan/

>>14981450
ded series rip
production and development has only gotten harder and more expensive since the jump to HD too

>>14981452
If there is any interest, Ill do a google spreadsheet of the sales data for SRW I can find
SRW Z
363k
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/39719/Japan/

>>14981434
Hind Kind / Luca VF Acc/Evd AOE debuff was a lot more convenient than having everyone cast Focus at least.

Yup, that's what it boils down to... time saving

>>14981240
what are the other series you're including, here's another recent fan concept that involves MD Geist;

Super Robot Wars: Gaia Presence
http://pastebin.com/s2zAPvPj

>>14981432
don't forget that it's SEA version will probably do pretty well, a licensed SRW game being available in English legally is going to be quite appealing to people

>>14981454
Fuck it doing the rest of Z

Z2 Hakai
300k
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/40650/Japan/

Z2 Saisei
262k
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41007/Japan/

Z3 Jigoku
148 PS3 127 PSV
274 altogether
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly/41742/Japan/

remember these are all opening week

>>14981460
If anything, this tells me V will probably break 300k, because being with a series seems to hurt sales.

>>14981461
>because being with a series seems to hurt sales.
Wonder why they tried it again after @3 then

>>14981469
Because they wanted to give it another shot, why make another SRW game when your most recent game sold less than the previous

>>14981461
Walt Disney had a saying that explained why he avoided doing sequels for the most part that feels relevant here; "You can't top Pigs with Pigs"(this originated with The Three Little Pigs being one of his biggest successes in the area of Animated Shorts, and when he did sequels to them they weren't anywhere near as good or as successful as the original)

>>14981469
Well I actually fucked it up because @3 had comparable sales to @1, so maybe they were hoping it would continue.
Z was just an outlier.
I'd put alot of blame on Z's issues with series/story management, plus flagging sales of games in general for the decline

>>14981347
When I think some idiot was trying to convince me Pokémon was a dead fad some days ago

>>14981476
Well, that and the PSX and PS2 were consoles absolutely every-fucking-body had, the PSP, PS3 and PSV not so much

>>14981481
A very good point.

>>14981457
I never used either. Probably because they're fucking pre-movement (or at least Hind's is - Luca's I never bothered to find out because I still haven't used him in a 3DS game.)

Because the topic has been brought up, I do think the main issue with the Z series is the dimensional shit, for two major reasons.
1. Nobody knows anybody, its a ton of "who are you" type stuff. The fun of SRW is seeing the characters combined, seeing who is in Londo Bell and which villains are with which factions. The tying together and melding of the canons is delicious, so when its explicitly mashing them together its not as fun.
2. Stake raising until the stakes don't matter. "Wipe out the multiverse" is hard to feel danger about because theres no way to fathom that as a regular human being; its the equivalent of being afraid or worried about being written out of existence. Something Ideon did right was when it was "destroy the universe", it was meteors and earthquakes and volcanoes; tangible and visceral things to fear. Z got so caught up in weird metaphysical stuff that was hard to relate to reality that eventually it managed to lose stakes by raising them.

>>14981490
I think that Z1 handled the Orguss dimensional pileup fairly well, certainly way better than the sequels. The crew not being all one big happy family immediately and then going their own ways led to some interesting fallout.

That being said, I can't seeing any other game pulling off ZEUTH vs ZEUTH reasonably well, especially now that the surprise factor is gone.

Really, Z just needed to not continue after game 1.

>>14981412
But they did? Did you really expect normalfags to not buy a game with a big ass Unicorn in the cover? I swear it's like the only unit they have any exposure to before playing the game itself.

>>14981458
> what are the other series you're including
M.D Characters and bad guys are replaced with Gundam Char's Counterattack, Zegapain, Aquarion and VOTOMS.

The Entire plot will be done just with Geist and Vaiya.

>http://pastebin.com/s2zAPvPj
> alternates between ally and enemy
My Game he is your ally.


> convince him not to activate Death Force.
My Game there will be no convicting, Geist will activate Death Force, ending won't change.

> even when he's on your side Geist is still a humongous asshole
Same here.

>>14981139

So they're basically just dumping the actual track into the soundbanks rather than re-synthesizing from more granular sounds?

Why don't more games do that

>>14981347
>>14981432

no ttgl no hope

>>14981541
Because file size, and because then you can't loop the BGM nearly as well

so how long should it take for me to be able to access my download code after purchasing some PSN cards off Play-Asia, am I going to have to wait a while for them to update, cause right now when I try to get the codes it says it can't open the order info page for what I just ordered(about 90 Singapore Dollars)

also another question, for anyone who's bought stuff off the SEA PSN store, do they add sales tax when you buy stuff there, cause if so I'm going to have to buy another card or two

>>14981545
But the games that had ttgl were maximum despair.

>>14981576
no despair no hope

>>14981571
I've just mailed them about it and got it an hour later.
I've bought 2x50SDG cards,1st one went fine but 2nd one didn't send any code number.

>>14981186
REMOVE
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>9999 Nuke Missile & MAP Weapon

What did they mean by this?

>>14981240
if you don't pick Merciless Soldier you're an idiot

>>14981313
>Would they be like an inverse Basara or not quite as overpowered?

(muffled GIRI GIRI AI in the background)

>>14981571
>so how long should it take for me to be able to access my download code after purchasing some PSN cards off Play-Asia
Usually it takes just a minute or so.

Sometimes they might have some problems and phone you to ask some verifications about the order, it happened to me last month, they ask you whether you are Mr/Ms X, your account credentials and your credit card's last four numbers, the girl I spoke to was really nice, after she verified the order she told me to wait a minute and check my e-mail if the order page didn't update, which it did almost instantly anyway.

>>14981580
Go to bed, Hibiki.

>>14981476
I think a big part of it is just fatigue, too.
Remember that Z wasn't a trilogy, it was 5 games, seven if you include Special Disc and Rengoku. People just aren't as up to buying game after game after game, especially when it's becoming clearer with each one that they're being more and more rushed.

>>14981581
>>14981594
okay it worked now, also I just read that you can have up to 2 PS4 systems listed as a Primary System per PSN account, before I go and do that with the PS4 I have access to at the moment(which isn't my system but a family member's as I'm away from home right now and probably will be for at least a couple more days), anything I should keep in mind?(cause depending on a couple factors I might make it the second Primary PS4 for all three of my PSN accounts)

>>14981612
Sorry man, can't help you on that.

>>14981616
that's okay, just read some conflicting info about it anyways, so I'll just not do it

>>14981612
You can have more than 2 primary
I have
EU(main),US,JP,SG,China,UK set as primary

>>14981643
I didn't mean different accounts on the same machine, I meant the same account set to primary on two machines

>>14981490
I blame SPLIT GAMES

>>14981590
>What did they mean by this?
Genocide makes you stronger than Demonbane.

>>14981591
Who's gonna make Merciless Soldier (Instr Ver.) though?

>>14981737
You do it, anon.

The trick is that if it's shit, you tell them to do it better, and eventually someone will bite. And then either it is better, in which case you have your song, or it's worse and you can laugh at them. (Or it's about the same and you use both.)

>>14981490
This is why I found Z boring after Z1. The dimension hopping ruined the idea of series synergy. MX and W are my favorite SRWs because they melded all the anime used together so cohesively it really does feel like a single, well put together setting. Dimension hopping stuff is just lazy, it's all just there and there's barely any melding together or anything of the sort.

>>14981743
>MX and W are my favorite SRWs because they melded all the anime used together so cohesively it really does feel like a single, well put together setting
Dude, I love MX but all the gendums are thrown there with literally zero relevance to the plot besides OH SHIT WE NEED TO SAVE AMURO FROM GIGANOS GOONS and Quattro can now teach you how to pilot a Dragonar.

>>14981753
That's because their series is done, and Dragonar is the de facto Gundam of MX

>>14981743
>MX and W are my favorite SRWs because they melded all the anime used together so cohesively it really does feel like a single, well put together setting.

Remind me how all the settings are melded together in MX? Because I remember a whole lot of every-faction-for-themselves.

Oh, and of course the Machine Robo cast literally just popping in from another universe, which is what you're deriding Z for. Can't forget that.

>>14981757
>Oh, and of course the Machine Robo cast literally just popping in from another universe, which is what you're deriding Z for.
To be fair, that actually happened in the series (it's pretty much how they went from Revenge of Cronos to Battle Hackers). It was stupid then and it was stupid in MX, but it's at least mildly justifiable.

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>>14981753
Setting aside the fact that MX was in that era of 'every SRW must have UC Gendum and Getter in it', they helped flesh out the world, being post-series and all.

Also you forgot that G still had some plot, even if it was post-series.

>>14981757
>Because I remember a whole lot of every-faction-for-themselves
'Synergy' does not automatically equal 'all the evil factions ball together into the Divine Crusaders', especially since most of them being self assholes makes perfect sense for what they're doing.

>Oh, and of course the Machine Robo cast literally just popping in from another universe, which is what you're deriding Z for. Can't forget that.
Now you're just intentionally being a shitter and conflating 'enemies popping in from another dimension (who existed in this one originally too)' to 'HURR LET'S MASH DIMENSIONS TOGETHER'.

Fuck this, back to filtering your retarded ass.

>>14981756
Doesn't change the fact that they don't really meld with the world much besides being there, G-Gundam being G-Gundam doesn't really help either, I remember the stage where you have to fight the DG Cell clones which is literal filler, or the whole Devil Mass Driver and thinking "What the hell does this have to do with anything?", the Zeorymer cast is also completely disconnected from the rest of the world now that I think about it, at least they did tie Raideen with Rahxephon and the Toeizingers but anything but Dendoh or Dragonar is self contained and hardly relevant to the plot.

Shit, did Erde even bother using Zeorymer's data for AI1? As far as I remember it was all about the DG Cells, Dragonars and Rahxephon though it's been a while and I might be terribly wrong.

>>14981758
Wait, but if that's the case, why didn't Rom start with the Twin Blade?

Did it take him all game to figure out that thing he did at the end of the TV show was doable with his robot?

>>14981743
W is my favorite because, like you said, all the series blend together nicely so it feels like one complete setting.

>>14981347
To be fair. It's been years since the last G Gen. SRW gets pumped out 1-3 times every year.

>>14981761
G Gundam was relevant to the OG plot since that's what blew up the Cry Wolves.

>>14981762
Given that it was his dead brother's sword, he probably put it to rest when he didn't need it; his brother's spirit literally told him to whip it out to bust open the Machine Robo dude's barrier in their endgame.

Do you go around hitting people with your dead relatives' keepsakes?

>>14981773
When its a sword that my dead brother told me to use then yes I will hit people with it.

>>14981773
You... Do realize the irony of asking this about someone in SRW? The franchise that pretty much always includes Mazinger Z?

>>14981776
And when he told him to use it again, he did.

>>14981778
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize he wasn't piloting his own Mazinger and was piloting the one made for his nonexistent dead older brother this time.

Fuck off, seriously. You're neither smart nor funny.

>>14981761
Zeorymer was tied both to Dendoh and Evangelion. Hell, Last Guardian was part of GEAR before it was split off into its own thing.

>>14981784
Oh, and to Nadesico too; the Martian Successors' asshole assassin dude had some sort of shady dealings with the Hau Dragon head scientist.

>>14981773
If said keepsake helps me on my quest, then yes.

Especially if said keepsake is the mid season upgrade.

>>14981791
It's not really a mideseason upgrade, Rom gets Unmeiryodanken in the last stage of scene 8 out of 10.
And it's less an upgrade and more a new finisher (that also takes care of Vikungfu's FUCKING STUPID dead zone)

>>14981760
>Setting aside the fact that MX was in that era of 'every SRW must have UC Gendum and Getter in it', they helped flesh out the world, being post-series and all.
also isn't it a common theory that MX was originally going to be a Impact sequel

>>14981793
My mistake, I meant in general. Not just the stuff with Rom.

I should have been more clear.

>>14981794
Wouldn't be surprised; there's a lot in common between the two games. Aren't they done by the same team, even? The music choices sure feel like it.

But yeah. G Gendum and Nadesico were big parts of Impact (despite not existing in the C2s) and now they're both post-TV, Raideen and Machine Robo were around and now their stuff's done too, the leftover Zeta/ZZ-era bullshit's been wrapped up... I can see the reasoning, at least, even if stuff like Eva or RahXephon being around kind of poops on it.

>>14981802
Mind, Zeta was done as of Impact.

Come to think of it, a lot of games in that era were post-Zeta with ZZ stuff. I mean, Alpha 2, sure, but also A, R, C2/Impact, GC, and then C3 and D were that without the ZZ stuff. I think after AG the next game to run Zeta plot was fucking Scramble Commander 2.

>>14981802
>were big parts of Impact
uuuuuuuuuuuuh
they add like 9 stages worth of content to C2 and Master Asia being an anoying cunt pestering your ass everywhere and that's about it

>>14981808
Well, some Zeta shit was still floating around, like Jerid, although it was mostly All Zeon All The Time for some fucking reason.

>>14981812
Felt like a lot more than that, especially as how the Devil Gundam was the main driving force behind, and ended up being the big end battle for, the Earth arc/part 1.

Now granted you don't really know that until you get to Jaburo and find out why everyone there's incommunicado, but it is what it is.

Also the Jovians felt fucking everywhere in the space stuff, but maybe that's just me.

>>14981817
Jerid was in an absurd number of games. The fact that Impact gives him a The O always gives me giggles. And the Alphas had Yazan as a fucking cockroach.

But the presence of a single villain doesn't really mean there's plot going on.

>>14981743
I'm not sure if the dimension hopping ruined the idea of series synergy as much as it basically just got used as a button to excuse, change and retcon everything at a moment's notice.

Like, Z1 already proved that worlds colliding can work and can get you a legit interesting setting, since those worlds colliding leads to its own kind of series synergy where there's all kinds of power struggles and stuff like that as people scramble to make sense of the situation.

In Z2, it wasn't even really an issue, since the dimensional fusion happened ages ago so aside from two Japans and Africa being the TTGL zone, it was a pretty standard SRW setting and plot, with the dimensional stuff basically just being used as the excuse for why the Z1 cast gets tossed from their world to this one, why a few series are here, and where the baddies come from. The issues come more from Banpresto not mixing these stories and settings up more, not from the dimensional stuff.

Z3, though, is where it really starts getting ridiculous, with the game starting with the Z1 world being completely destroyed, tons of characters and entire settings straight up just gone in another dimension so the writers don't have to think about them, shows disappearing and reappearing with nobody even raising an eyebrow, Aquarion not actually having shown up in Z2 after all, stuff like that. They spend so much time on the how and why of the Z multiverse that by Tengoku-hen they've basically completely forgotten about the actual series plots beyond fighting the bosses from Jigoku again. It's not really the fault of dimension hopping/fusing in of itself, just the fact it's used as a crutch.

>>14981817
DG stuff in Earth Crisis finale was alright to avoid the lame copout C2 did (you thought this Einst Regisseur was behind everything? WRONG, it was this OTHER Einst Regisseur!)
Jovians are just annoying as shit so they stand out more than other enemy factions

>>14981833
>(you thought this Einst Regisseur was behind everything? WRONG, it was this OTHER Einst Regisseur!)
Pffft. They all look alike to me. inb4 #einstlivesmatter

Also that is exceptionally retarded, even for early-ish SRW.

>>14981833
>you thought this Einst Regisseur was behind everything? WRONG, it was this OTHER Einst Regisseur!

And people say Z3's OG plot was the worst.

>>14981837
That's spacist.

Man, making the Skygraspers not completely outclass the Strike in J was harder than I thought.

Although I like the solution that I came up for it in the end where the Skygrapsers got the same attack but with higher will requirements and halved ammo/doubled en costs.

>>14981843
It IS the worst. One Einst Reggie bait-and-switch doesn't outweigh one-but-actually-three games of utter batshit.

And this is coming from someone who fucking hates the Einst and everything they ruin by association.

>>14981843
Disappointment is a bigger factor in judgement than actual quality. One is much more enclined to forgive a bad standalone than a bad sequel.

>>14981593
>What would you say about an OG whose unit specializes not so much in dealing raw damage to the enemy but sabotaging their unit to make them take more damage from all sources as well as weakening their overall damage dealt, for instance?
How would they do the Walkure when Delta gets into SRW? Have the Aether hanging around with five spirit pools?

>>14981869
Or have them ride shotgun with the Delta VFs.

>>14981854
>One Einst Reggie bait-and-switch doesn't outweigh one-but-actually-three games of utter batshit.

>one-but-actually-three games of utter batshit

Why would a game be outweighing itself?

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26 days to my birthday, /srwg/

What do you plan to get me

>>14981869
Second spirit pool for the VFs, plus a unique song attack for each Valk.

>>14981879
>Why would a game be outweighing itself?
Z3 (aka Jigoku/Rengoku/Tengoku), you retard.

>>14981881
An oak stake through your heart

>>14981882
Aren't there more members of Walkure than pilots in Delta Platoon? Especially if Messer can't be saved.

>>14981885
Hayate - Freyja
Messer - Kaname
Mirage - Mikumo
Chuck - Reina
Arad - Makina

When Messer dies or you fail to get him back, then Kaname moves to be Arad's subpilot and Makina/Reina get to be with Chuck I guess.

>>14981885
Hayate/Freyja
Mirage/Mikumo
Arad/Kaname
Messer/Reina?
Chuck/Makina? (forgot who had who)
They're equal. If Messer's left unsaved they'll just move to Chuck or Arad.

>>14981888
>implying anyone will use Chuck
Hell, I'm struggling to imagine how Arad would even be useful. At least Ozma was a good pilot.

>>14981884
Are you me? I was literally thinking of doing the same thing.

>>14981892
Its probably Chuck/Reina and Messer/Makina all things considered. Those two really should be paired together since they never sing anything on their own.

>>14981893
Arad is supposed to be the best pilot or was he tied for Messer as the best without any song buffs/muh wind/var.

>>14981884
>>14981898
You fool, you gotta break his Phylactery!

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>>14981884
>>14981898
>>14981902
You face Taira no Kagesahib

Know that no matter how many times I may fall, I'll return from the depths of Yomi to haunt you, evil doers.

>>14981943
I'll kill you AND the night.

>>14981881
Scarlet's MidareRetsuGekka edition box, not really.

By the way, I've posted this week's Famitsu scans on /vr/, as usual I'll post some translation later on.
There's some neat stuff this time too Afendi, do check it out when you have time.

>>14981959
But the night belongs to lovers!

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>>14981959
You're lamentable, Anonymous.

>>14981962
The translations are enough of a gift, Kyodai.

I've got the thread opened, just waiting on those translations. At your leisure, of course.

>>14981973
I'm busy doing other stuff now but it shouldn't take long, in four hours or so they'll be up.
Kinda interested about the section on the various goods and "composts", if I got that right.
I still have to read it in depth, I just gave a quick glance but it seems there's some juicy stuff and the new characters seem to be pretty important.

>>14981982
I'M STILL SALTY ABOUT 3.61

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>>14982044
You should be more salty about 3.63, son cuz that's a thing.
Also
>Pirating SaGa games

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>>14982049
Eh, same thing really.

>>14982063
They really did react quite fiercely though if you think we got two different firmware update in a matter of what, two months?
You'd think they'd let this slide considering how much they're focusing on the PS4 instead.

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone have the screencap of the new Oldrin picture for X Omega?

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>>14982127

>>14982128
did you get your folders mixed up or what

>>14982106
Hi John Balkin

>>14982106
The fruit of gatcha labor, finally, wives of christmas in your possession

Does first week sales data on VGChartz/Media Crates include digital?

>>14982127
Has Proto Getter been in SRW?

>>14982205
SRW 3

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>>14982110
Man I had to refresh the suggested guest units like 50 times before she showed up.

>>14982212
Who is this supposed to be anyway

>>14982212
Who's this semen demon?

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>>14982225
>>14982217
That Code Geass spinoff I believe.

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>>14982243

>>14982246
How come the card game for the game has these characters in decidedly non-characteristic situations and costumes

It's like if they made an official Gundam card game and the card for Char had him playing baseball in a speedo

>>14982249
Touya finally required them to stop freeloading off his estate

>>14982258
Sally is freeloading off Akimi though

So to replace Granteed Dracodeus, Bellzelute Brigandy and Raftclans Aurun next game, they give you.....

Super Soul Saber unit 2

>>14982283
I can honestly see that coming, in reality I'm more curious as to how they will continue GC's story.

Since clearly something connected to Einst plot is coming from the Kadum Hakam plot, and J was essentially the second half of D's plot I'm just waiting for what other old stuff they're gonna bust out for plot.

>>14982291
I doubt there'll be much to continue GC's plot since they decided to nuke the entire species of people and the Rubble Piler to play up J's power level and probably as a dig at how unpopular GC was in general.

Outside of SoulSaber Unit 2, all we'll probably see is the return of Vort in his reaper-mech, and then they'll be supporting cast for some Great Battle or Guest plot.

>>14982296
Soul Gunner might show up as an extra unit somewhere down the line.

>>14982296
I always saw the Rubble Piler getting nuked as a reference to the Orphan getting hit by the SEED cannon in J.

>>14982291
J wasmore of a fan-disc continuity than it was the "second half" to D.

>>14982307
Good ol' GENESIS.

>>14982212
I know your pain.. and thank you so much

>>14982302
You mean a redesigned Soul Gunner? I rather have SSS unit 2.

>>14982307
So that makes Gu Landon Patrick Zala?

>>14982345
Gu Landon was basically the stand in for Patrick Zala, Ru Kain and the rest of their ilk.

>>14982249
Because it's dumb fanservice for dumb lonely assholes. Welcome to Japan's "entertainment" industry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4jgK4KGONQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRVwN8yku_o

OG WHEN?

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Incorrectly but accurately describe your favorite original.
>Kung-fu Granzon

>>14981779
>Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize he wasn't piloting his own Mazinger and was piloting the one made for his nonexistent dead older brother this time.

No, just the same old one made BY his dead grandpa. You saying that doesn't count as a keepsake?

>>14982227
She's not from Akito.

>>14982387
Is she not? Then I have no clue who she is

>>14982387
She's from OZ

>>14982387
>>14982391
Code Geass manga, Oz the Reflection

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>>14982381
OG Flag? I dunno

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>>14982283
Nothing. J cast will never be seen again.
But don't worry, I'll keep you company.

>>14982396
>>14982393
No, pretty sure she's from FMP.

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>YFW WHEN YOU SEE IT

WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?

>>14982407
>Your face when when?
Is that what I'm supposed to see?

>>14982407
Now I want to know what Devant's Maximum Break portrait looks like.

I also think it's a shame that Maximum Break doesn't get its own personal theme.

I'm also wondering why we can't have individual attack themes considering that the nonOG games have been doing it for years.

>>14982420
Z3 and uhhh. What else?

>>14982425
OE

>>14982420
>I'm also wondering why we can't have individual attack themes considering that the nonOG games have been doing it for years.

BLACK HOLE

GRUNGUST ZAN

COME ON

>>14982423
How do you pronounce Debudedabide anyway

>>14982453
Very carefully.

>>14982453
On syllable at a time, like solmization of the music scale. You can sing it to help.

>>14982453
https://youtu.be/BinWA0EenDY?t=33

>>14982249
> Char playing baseball in a speedo
I could totally see Char doing that.

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>>14982403
>OG Flag

>>14982453
Quite a few of the cast try to say his name when you attack him.

As someone already pointed out, it's just one syllable at a time.

De-bu-de-da-bi-de, but really quick.

But I'll give you a freebie, if you can pronounce Skull Knight in Aramaic, then you'll awaken the secret to the Solomon Gate of the soul and walk the path of one who does not bow to his own limiters.

>>14982128
What robot/creature is this girl based on and why does she not have any underwear?

>>14982489
The only Aramaic I know is the Kaddish.

>>14982476
I'd pilot the one on the right, it's colour palette reminds me of the Lancelot.

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>>14982508

>>14982511
So aside from Yazan, the attack-only SEED guys becoming units again, all the Mazinger stuff and the Daitarn enemies getting beaten on-screen instead of off-screen, has there been anything new for the returning cast from Z, which makes up the overwhelming majority of the cast?

>>14982548
Didn't mean to quote, sorry

>>14982283
Nah, Dracodeus will come back with 4 sub pilots, Aurun will get Calvina as a subpilot, Brigandi will be destroyed, Ja-Mu will be revealed to have survived and join you with Brachium.

>>14982548
Only other thing I can thing of is Eva Unit 1 Awakened form.

>>14982602
That seems possible considering the teaser showed a completely normal Shinji piloting the awakened EVA-01.

No crazy red eyes or anything, so...

>>14982606
And y'know its on the cover

>>14982547
Wha dis?

>>14981883
Or Compact 2 (Earth/Space/Galaxy)

>>14982106
That thing has INSANE stats.

>>14982387
Akito isn't technically on X-O's cast. It was a guest unit from a single event.

>>14982548
>has there been anything new for the returning cast from Z

Nothing as of the PV1, which will not show a vast portion of the game off.

>>14982640
On top of the event bonus damage. If I ever get one though, I won't put it up as my support unit since there's no way I'd FUB it before the event ends and apparently alot of people are using my Hot Springs Belta

Just going to remind you all that tomorrow is nopan Friday in OGverse.

>>14982589
I can definitely see this happening.

>>14982652
G-Good to know.

>>14982589
Yes please!

>>14981829
Yeah, thats alot of how I see it too. The question I guess is how to do a really large scale SRW with many different types of series; a benefit of @ is that it stuck to alot of franchise and continuations and doled out new series slowly; A major difference between @ and Z is that @ only added 12 series combined in @2 and @3. I really want a huge fucking team up like Z, but they really didn't do it well.
I pitched it a while back, but Im still a fan of the legacy type set up for the next trilogy; start with say, SDF Macross, Gundam The Origin, and Mazinger Z in the first, then go to 7 and Zeta and God in the next, stuff like that where its the series leading into each other. Could use the trilogy set up to tell bigger stories.

>>14982771
God Mazinger isn't exactly a Mazinger sequel as far as I know, and Macross 7 and Zeta being in the same game when you know when SDF and the original Gundam were in means you're going to be entirely forced to have TIME/SPACE/DIMENSION SHENANIGANS.

>>14982589
>Ja-Mu will be revealed to have survived and join you with Brachium
Only if it still has no finishers, just to piss of Coustwellfags.

>>14982771
Like Z3, I mean. Fuck.

>>14982785
True, but it might be slightly more cohesive. Plus, @3 already did SDF and 7 in the same game. Maybe have there be a time skip between each installment or compress some time

>>14982798
And Alpha 3 justified that with TIME/SPACE/DIMENSION SHENANIGANS so if your point is to avoid this stuff using that as an example is self-defeating.

>>14982785
>God Mazinger isn't exactly a Mazinger sequel as far as I know

It was originally going to be, before Great and Grendizer existed. Those two had their ideas worked out and God was reworked to not be connected to anything Mazinger related except the name. After that it sort of gravitated into Mazinger canon with various side materials and manga, most notably Mazinger Angels.

>>14982547
the fuck is that palette on Getter?

>>14982804
Hrm, true. I guess the question is less not dealing with TSDS and more doing it well

>>14982813
Its the Proto Getter from the first episode of the Toei anime

>>14982807
God Mazinger was the original name for Great Mazinger.

Then it was the original name for the third Mazinger before it got fused with Gattaiger to make Grendizer.

Then it was a SF Space Opera movie with a Macross-type space-ship-colony Mazinger.


Then it became Reideen.

>>14982819
I'll be damned. I completely forgot about that.

>>14982832
The RGZ version was even posted in this thread.

>>14982825
Just how many obscure and/or unused Mazingers are there out there?

Is G Generation Genesis just as broken in favor of the player as the other G Gen games?

>>14982825
>Then it was a SF Space Opera movie with a Macross-type space-ship-colony Mazinger.
Wait what now?

>>14982842
Fucking loads of them.

>>14982842
Approximately too many.

>>14982856
Attack of the flying saucers, or something like that. Will check the name when I get home.

>>14981481
>Well, that and the PSX and PS2 were consoles absolutely every-fucking-body had, the PSP, PS3 and PSV not so much
Ain't that just a gaijin issue?

>>14982874
no, that's Uchuu Enban Daisensou\Great War of the Space Soucers-

It' talking about SF God Mazinger: it was a movie se inside a gigantic Mazinger-shaped travelling space colony- it even got a number of deisgns by Shingo Araki but it got scrapped when the space\UFO craziness died

>>14982880
Yeah pretty much, PS Vita for example utterly failed here but did okay in Japan.

For those not aware, Gosaurer started getting subs from Subdivers on YT.

>>14982885
Too bad, might have done a killing in the 80s (which had space opera as a popular trend).

>>14982902
IIRC it was shut down because the popularity of the genre was already dwindling and a movie would have costed too much

>>14982902
> which had space opera as a popular trend
I blame Star Wars.

>>14982902
I became aware of that a few days ago, but thanks for warning everyone.

>>14982504
That's Robot Girls Z's take on Dokuganki, a MOTW from Getter Robo G. No clue where her undies got to, considering she usually wears them (tiny as they are).

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>>14982635

>>14983049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYvAzR8rWqs

>Eiji can use V-MAX before the skill activates because both versions of Layzner are technically different units if you're willing to putz around with the will reqs a bit

Messing around with J is more fun than actually playing with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDvP-kJ3H_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgA3y8QAYZs

Guys, any link for the decrypted UX and BX rom? I made the emulator work, but I can't find a decrypted rom anywhere. Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMQo5GpLgHM

>>14981881
Damn, it VF you share a birthday with my girlfriend..
...wait.
VF...
Are you...?
Impossible!

>>14983204
masaka!?

Nobody remembered my birthday...

>>14983232
Check underneath your pillow, dearest.

>>14983063
You the guy working on the balance patch?

>>14983241
The beartrap lopped off both of my hands

It's all I ever wanted

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>>14983242
Yeah. I'm slowly working on it hopefully I should have a beta patch out sometime this month.

>tfw you pull Squall's OSB in RK so he can really give people the Orgonite Bhusker Sword

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>>14983328

Matt, can you tell me who can learn Love in BX?

Right now I have 4 people who can use love and 2 of them can use it twice (Yes I did give Yuu Love on NG+)

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A nice way to sidestep the entire issue with mobility in J.

>>14983316
I would rather have Konami Code Zell BSB instead of this shitty OSB

>>14983403
Obright
Hairsocks
Allelujah
Sumeragi
Patrick
Michel
Yurika
Tsukumo
Uzuben
Rod

>>14983473
let me check next intermission to see who already has love.

>>14983490 here

I hit some wierd bug in BX to where I am constantly stuck checking a unit's stats and I can't go to any menu unless they have not taken a turn

>>14983539 here

bug solved. The game freaked the fuck out because I triggered a map event where the Nadesico warped off the map but it still has Continuous Action activated. Bug ended when I told Nadesico to move.

>>14983328
Yuuki has no chill.

>>14983204
Oh please. My mom has the same birthday as Terada and they're both on Canada's Remembrance Day.

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CUTE
U
T
E

>>14983639
My mother shares a birthday with Adolf Hitler and yes she smokes weed

What's your kink /srwg/

>>14983742
My mom and her best friend's birthdays were respectively on the days after and before that date. I don't have to tell you when or how they celebrated.

How would you like your V-MAX?

+After Image
+1 Movement
+5 Mobility/+10 Mobility
+10 Crit/+20 Crit/+30 Crit

or
+After Image
+1 Movement
+5 Mobility/+10 Mobility
+300 Damage/+500 Damage (V-MAX Only)

I did consider an S Rank on Sky/Space Terrain but trashed it in the rare hope that Eiji might actually get attacked by things that don't have natural S Ranks.

>>14983922
Personally first option. Making it a mini Abnormal Survivor just feels fitting.

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>>14983903

I want an SRW G trailer where the series introductions are all

>G IS FOR
>[Series name starting with G]

>>14983969
>SRW G
>there's no Gundam in the game

>>14983973
Well yeah, Kidou Senshi Gundam doesn't start with a G, it starts with a K.

>>14983978
Nor do Yuusha-Ou GaoGaiGar or Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

>>14983978
That would take away a lot of G mecha that start with kanji stuff, then. No Gunbuster or Gosaurer and so on.

>>14983903
No links, but Excellen is my fetish.

>>14983990
*kinks, damn autocorrect

>>14983978
By that logic, neither Voltes Five nor V Gundam start with a V, so no more complaining about them not being in SRW V is allowed ever.

Combattler at least ends with one.

>>14984006
Yep.

>SRW V
>no Chodenji Machine Voltes V

>SRW V
>no Hyaku Juo Golion

>>14983903
Vore

>>14984218
Is this the new 'no ttgl no hope' memespam?

>SRW V
>No Star Trek Voyager

>SRW V
>No Vysaga
>No Vorlent
>No Variable Formation
>No Virgola
>No Valsione

>>14984252
You know I was just trying to make a joke with >>14983983, I had no idea it would cause all of this.

I'm so sorry.

>>14984259
As punishment, you have to play through OE.

>>14984259
Not mad at you in particular, but someone keeps going >no voltes in like every thread these days.

>>14984261
That's a pity, I've been doing that and it's been crashing my emulator at a stage in chapter 2. Truth be told, I would if I could. Ok that's a lie I'd be playing more moon.

>no Gurren Lagann / Gunbuster crossover stage named "Top wo Toppa" where they double inazuma/inokuma kick

y live

>>14983204
That's right, Anonymous.

I updated your girlfriend's phone to the latest firmware.

I then helped her change the skin on her laptop to Windows Classic.

Finally, I helped her download the Giant Robo blurays, Queen FLAC rips, all the currently playable SRW ROMs and ISOs, and HD rips of TV's Frasier.

What's it like to be NTR'd, Anonymous?

You thought she was yours, but she can't get enough of the sahib.

>>14984271
Shit I wish I was a girl if this is what dating you got me

>>14984264
Are you using the most recent 1.08 version of OE?

>>14984273
You couldn't handle the Sahib.

I'm too haram for you, babe.

I'll help you hack your 3DS, Vita, pirate all those games, and then hook you up with free lifetime subscriptions to services like Netflix.

>>14984275
I think so. Might need to update it but my motivation to do so isn't all that high because OE. All I know is mine was prepatched.

>>14984279
Pirating is too far Sahib, the relationship is over.

>>14984279
How's Torkasier?

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>>14983903
Succubization

>>14984305
That is a fetish I never knew I wanted to have.

>>14983903
Vanilla sex in the missionary position for the purpose of procreating.

>>14984333
Trips confirmed for the lewdest.

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>>14984262
Its me

>>14984350
Do you ever jusy think about how long Euzeth has been a meme

>>14984350
Euzeth was Filipino? I thought he was a Space Jew.

http://suparobo.jp/topics/2016/channel_03.html

We are getting another one.
Looks like more X-omega nothing about V.

>>14984363
OG 3 is finally happening!

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>>14984279
It's wrong to hack things Sahib, don't disappoint Mazinger.

>>14984363
>Anniversary corner

Oh boy, I can't wait for another 30 minutes of ROCKET PUNCH and FIN FUNNEL

>>14984366
Maybe we will get Getter Beam this time.

>>14984363
Hmm, disappointing.

But maybe they'll keep with tradition and do another show on xmas.

>>14984363
Finally the real SRW X!

>>14983929
I was considering the latter so that way Eiji would have access to a weaker version of V-MAX before the skill activates and a proper finisher when it triggers.

>>14984363
but 25 = 5*5 = V*V

or in roman numerals XXV

but an X is basically a V and an upside-down V

so its still V Vs

tl;dr V.V. confirmed

So who else can't wait to once again defeat the ELS hordes in Super Robot Wars V

I don't like how they ruined Al-Van in moon dwellers.

>>14984429
So you liked him better when he was a hypocrite?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDFZIUdo764

THANK YOU BASED NINTENDO

>>14984430
He at least had some inner conflict about his loyalty. In MD they remove all of that.

>>14984430
Yes because it made him a more interesting character. Moon Dwellers robbed him of that and lessened his connection to Calvina while making Al-Van's connection to Touya bigger.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmBegs61myM

So in the latest episode of Tiger Mask W, they mentioned that there's a wrestler who goes by the alias of Liger.

Do you think we'll get a Shin Liger, and an eventual Shin Liger+Jushin Liger combo team up in SRW?

>>14984439
>>14984437

>Lessened Al-Van's connection
It was the same really, they were ex lovers and Calvina had a huge bitch fit about seeing him again for most of the game.

Al-Van does spend sometime trying to get Calvina to join him with the Fury in the interest of her safety also said that he loves Calvina near the end MD so I don't see how that changes anything.

Al-Van and Touya do have a bigger connection in MD but its not that hard to make it better than it was in J when all they had was that kid was my old boss' son.

>>14984448
He joins you because doesn't like the spies branch and because of El-sada instead of Calvina. It's lessened and made not as important as his relation to Touya and his father.

>>14984452
Al-Van and Touya basically have no relationship with each other as individuals. Its just that they're connected via Shana-Mia and E-Selda. That isn't enough to overturn everything that Calvina had going for her with Al-Van prior and during the game.

What the fuck do I do with these silver GT tickets in X Omega

>>14984462
>Al-Van and Touya basically have no relationship with each other as individuals. Its just that they're connected via Shana-Mia and E-Selda.
And that relation is given more focus and important to Al-Van than anything he does with Calvina.

>>14984487
>is given more focus
Did you miss how any time he's on the map he beelines for Calvina to talk to her ignoring he's been ordered to capture Granteed?

>>14984515
Only Calvina Beelines him and only when she isn't dealing with Jua-Mu. Al-Van is usually occupied with Granteed.

>>14984469
Use them or save them up until there us a unit you need?

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Pros of Powered Layzner
Mix of EN and Ammo attacks compared to MkII's humanoid form being entirely EN based
Better P options before 115 Will.

Pros of Layzner MkII
Stronger finisher
Humanoid form's long range option has no will requirement (even if its just 105 vs 100)
Slightly lower EN costs and more ammo 1-4P version of the Lasered Rifle

V-MAX's bonuses are still being sorted out so there's that to consider as well.

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Best GC original.

>>14984596
It looks similar to the GC real Soul Gunner

>>14984596
It's a low bar.

>>14984596
>Best GC

Woah its fucking nothing..

>>14984596
But it's not a GC original
It's an OG original vaguely based on a GC original

>>14984268
Whose bright idea was it to make Gunbuster post-plot in Z3 anyway

>>14984676
The one who wanted to do Diebuster's plot.

>>14984469
Use them in the story gacha and then when all you get are rares, go waste a few crystals in the event gacha

>>14984692
But since the game's split in two wouldn't it have been perfect to do Gunbuster plot in Jigoku and Diebuster plot in Tengoku

>>14984676
I was honestly hoping that it would do the entire thing right from the beginning with having to use the RX-0 given that we had FMP with its school stuff going on.

Thanks Bamco!