Garma Zabi

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Char killed him because he wanted to kill all the Zabis for what they did to his dad and mom.

But killing Garma didn't do for him what he thought it would do and he kind of ended his Zabi killing crusade there. He only killed Kycilia because if she had lived the war would have continued on for a bit longer and may have resulted in the deaths of at least another million people.

He also doesn't place blame on Mineva for the actions of Degwin and Gihren. She had nothing to do with it.

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>>14955639

Because it's fucking Char. This is the guy who thought the best way to save the Earth is by killing everything on it. His character is based around the premise that his train of logic doesn't make sense.

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Are you referring to that one time she was piloting Gigantis? Char was totally trying to kill her along with the machine, but Judau and Amuro stopped him and rescued the girl. Char was also using two Big Zams, which was, you know, her dead father's MA. What a douche, that's why Mineva had such distaste for the Char clone in Unicorn.

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Why is Garma such a cute?

>>14955639
Who ever said about sparing Mineva. Sure he kind to the kid, same goes on how he was all buddy-buddy with his late uncle Garma before killing him of course.

>>14955639
Char never had an opportunity to kill Mineva without suffering considerable backlash. Also, he was intimately familiar with her.

>>14955720
One asteroid won't kill everything. The previous ice ages haven't killed life on Earth

>>14955639
Because he was a complacent fool who took pride in his family while overlooking the atrocities they have done and only cared about his personal vainglory.

>>14955703
He hated the Zabis for causing him such anguish, of course, but what he couldn't forgive is that they did it for something as trivial as secular power and personal achievement. He didn't think such people should be allowed to rule and he didn't understand how other people could let them do it. He came to the conclusion that nobody even cares.
In his mind his father was Buddha meets Jesus - a kind selfless man who wanted a better future for humanity but died because nobody gave a damn.

Garma was a pretty nice, decent guy and Char admitted as much, but for him he was a person who couldn't see farther than his nose. Such a person had no place in government. He saw Garma as a victim of his own education and social rank.

Mineva was a good, perceptive kid and she was very young and if she was given the freedom to develop properly she could become a fine woman that cares about the world around her and has hopes and dreams for everybody's future.

>>14955749
>that's why Mineva had such distaste for the Char clone in Unicorn
Really? I'm not a Unicorn expert but I got the impression she thought Full Frontal misunderstood Char's ideals.

>>14956014
>Char never had an opportunity to kill Mineva without suffering considerable backlash.
Wasn't he the one who quietly sent her to study on Earth while no one was looking? That just screams 'opportunity' right there.

>>14956373
That was Haman IIRC.

>>14955639
Garma would've killed his ass probably if he suspected Char of murdering his family.

>>14956373
Wait? When? Is that from Unicorn?

>>14956373
>>14956504
>>14957148
That fellow has mixed Mineva's fate in The New Translation and in original series.
Unicorn has nothing about it.

>>14955639
he's a lolicon with mommy issues
probably thought mineva could have been his mother as well

>>14956373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMz7YHPIiI&t=2s

Basically Char had the real one kidnapped before Glemys rebellion and replaced it with a double in ZZ. The real Minevia was being educated away from Axis or Federation influences, until she was returned to Zeon after the real Char died during CCA.

>>14955892

Because he was an innocent young man who sought friendship with an renegade egotist who wanted him dead for revenge on somebody else entirely.

Char is a dick.

>>14955703
Except Kycilia was going to surrender.

>>14956087

What you're saying is that Char's plan wouldn't have worked anyway and that he was just killing billions of people and causing an extinction level event for Earth for no reason.

How does that make Char's plan better?

>>14957242
I highly doubt that, her own personal forces at Granda were fully aware of her intentions with Gihrens and had been prepared for a full scale assault on its holdings after A.Boa.Qu either fell or was secured. Kycillia would had kept the fight going until she either the Federation pulled out of the battle themselves, or to eventually use the fleets survivors to escape to Axis to regroup.

Char did what had to be done with her. Allowing her to live would have killed countless more millions on the Moon and Side 3. Hell, she already knew about Prime Minster Darcia preparing to try and negotiate a peace settlement on the moon and had ordered him to be killed on sight. Surrender and peace was never in the cards for that woman.

>>14957603
Char was trying to force humanity to leave Earth, which was the entire point of contolism.

>>14957775
Which goes against one of the main tenets of contolism, that the Earth is sacred and we should leave it the fuck alone. Completely violating one half of contolism to achieve the other half is contradictory.

>>14957804
Char is a "by any means necessary" kind of guy. He probably figured it's better to deal a heavy (but not mortal) blow to Earth rather than let it die a slow death under Federation control and human occupation.

>>14957603
Since when was it his plan to kill everything on Earth. Of what possible use would it be and why would it make his plan good.

>>14955720
Origin really made it clear that Char is a psychopath.

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>>14958330
Where? Scary faces doesn't mean psychopathy.

>>14958330
Yeah. Because the Origin is such a better source of information than, you know, the actual series.

>>14957775
>Char was trying to force humanity to leave Earth

By killing everything on it? How is that ethically or logically justified with contolism?

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>>14955680

>>14958417
>No emotional connection to anybody except Lalah
>Manipulates everybody around him, even killing close friends with no remorse
>Occasional violent outbursts
>Capable of masking his behaviors and intentions

These are all hallmarks of psychopathic behavior

>>14958979
Have we entered and endless recirsion of time? This argument is starting to go in circles.

>>14955892
He gets it from his mom

>>14956187
The Deikuns and the families loyal to them actually didn't do much in the way of atrocities. IIRC Even Ral omitted his involvement with the One Week Battle because of how disgusted he was.

CASVAL did, but that's aside the point.

>>14959351
Mass murder is A-OK. Dictatorship on the other hand...

>>14959122
Or autism.

Origin made Char an unlikable cunt. He was pretty cool in Zeta

>>14955639
Because while Garma was the least involved Zabi in terms of what happened to his family, he still wasn't exactly an ideal leader in char's eyes, top that off with the fact that due to his love for his family, namely Kycilla, Dozle, and Degwin, he'd of continued fighting if he was the last one, and probably would of killed Char if he found out.

Too much of a risk. I mean there might of been a chance Char could of used it all to manipulate him but that wasn't what Char was looking for, even if he didn't hold that much ill will to Garma himself, like Char said, Blame it on the misfortune of his birth.

On the flip-side, Mineva was still an infant, she had no investment in it beyond a name, so he didn't hold her responsible for her forbearer's actions since unlike Garma she wasn't already a leader in the dynasty, that was of age and part of the system so to speak, if that makes sense.

>>14959122
>occasional violence outbursts
Does he smash the computers like Kylo Ren?

>>14959122

Not to mention that accepts no responsibility for his actions.

Char is a complete sociopath and potentially a pedophile, too.

>>14955639
So, every spy, politician, businessman, diplomat is a psychopath with desire to drop a rock?

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>>14959388
Quattro ISNT Char

>>14960828
No
Just that fool Char

>>14960852
Isn't that hypocrisy?

>>14960818
Sociopaths generally aren't great at masking their behavior and are socially awkward because of their lack of human connection.

Char however is very charismatic and uses it on several occasions to manipulate people, closer fitting to a psychopath.

>B-but that's just Origins!
No, he showed the exact same behavior manipulating Garma in MSG as he did with Quess in CCA.

Why are you searching for mental illnesses instead of accepting Char's behavior as normal in his current situation?
I bet nobody even has an education of a psychiatrist here. Or psychologist, whatever.

>>14960927
Isn't it the other way around?

What's the point of getting humans to leave Earth anyway? That Earth is "sacred"? Is it a retarded religious thing? Why should humans care about Earth when they don't get to live on it or make use of its natural resources?

>>14960946
>It’s not easy to spot a psychopath. They can be intelligent, charming, and good at mimicking emotions. They may pretend to be interested in you, but in reality, they probably don’t care. “They’re skilled actors whose sole mission is to manipulate people for personal gain,” Tompkins says.

>Sociopaths are less able to play along. They make it plain that they’re not interested in anyone but themselves. They often blame others and have excuses for their behavior .Some experts see sociopaths as “hot-headed.” They act without thinking how others will be affected.

>Psychopaths are more “cold-hearted” and calculating. They carefully plot their moves, and use aggression in a planned-out way to get what they want. If they’re after more money or status in the office, for example, they’ll make a plan to take out any barriers that stand in the way, even if it’s another person’s job or reputation.

>>14955639
Because cute lolibutt.

>>14955639
Because one is a 10/10 prepubescent maiden and another is a smug faggot?

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>>14960982
One is a 10/10 prepubescent maiden
and the other is Mineva

>>14960956
The idea is that we've already benefited more than enough from the earth and instead of continuing to harvest resources from it, we should grow up and leave the home like adult children who become independent.

>>14961036
Moving from Earth to space for resources is more like moving out of your parents' house and sponging off your next door neighbors instead, so the 'independence' analogy is retarded.

That being said, there's way more resources to be had out in space (especially in asteroids and comet cores) that are infinitely cheaper to get to for colonists (since they're not at the bottom of a fucking huge gravity well) that coming back to Earth for resources is just stupid.

Even if there are 00-style orbital elevators to allay costs, you're still better off finding an unclaimed rock somewhere than dealing with the mineral-rights nightmare on Earth.

>>14961532
What? There's no "neighbor next door" in space, it's literally uncharted frontier.

You have to build an entirely new human-friendly habitat unlike the Earth which is built for humans.

>>14955639
Because Char is an inconsistent faggot who always lies and wanted to destroy Earth because of MUH NEWTYPES

>>14960956
No. No thing to do with religion. Like everything else it's all about economy.

>>14961536
The 'leaving the nest' analogy was in the context of 'who's giving us our resources', in which case we have literally millions of neighbors to mine hollow.

We're never going to be fully 'independent'/self-sufficient as long as we're not some magical superbeings that don't need to intake anything to continue to exist.

>>14961562
what the fuck now I hate char