Mobile Suit Gundam Online General

JUAGGU A CUTE

>>14945741
JUAGGU NERF'D :^(

how shit will the early guncannon be?

Mobile Suit Gundam Online General
>Basic Info
Mobile Suit Gundam Online is a F2P third person shooter set in the Universal Century of the Gundam franchise. The game features massive battles of over 100 players as well as small scale battles 6v6.

NOTE: A VPN is required to play.

>Getting Started
https://sites.google.com/site/msgoenglish/start

>Japan Guilds (Server 1)
Federation: Brightslap
Zeon: NEO-GOONSA, WhitePiggu

>TW Guilds
COLONYDROP

>Japanese Wiki (Use Google Translate)
http://gow.swiki.jp/

>I'm having errors when trying to launch the game
https://sites.google.com/site/msgoenglish/start/troubleshooting

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Quick before some drama about bullshit happens post yo deck setups!

I are a curious

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Does anyone put space retrofit on their psycho zaku?

There are 2 threads now, baka. this one came first though lol

>>14945839
You should when in space

>>14945841
Yea, that's why I'm asking the jannys to delete mine on the other thread.

>>14945839
I see it on like...half the zakus? maybe 40% is closer

>>14945839
Oh forgot to mention, i think I only see it on half cause the hit box on that thing is huge.

>>14945839
In space that suit is ridiculous with it equipped

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WHERE ARE YOU

>>14946272
ded

>>14945839
I wish I could shove it into my Hygogg.

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ANIME JANAI ANIME JANAI

>>14947097
Now if only it wasn't a mook outperformed by suits three years old.

>>14947142
NAME THEM

>>14947162
Hm, 3 years was inaccurate. My apologies.

FAG and the cbr combo guncannons are from 2014. WD, Wolf, GCII, and even the SML that came in 2013, and a number of others are the most obvious ones. The problem with ZZ is that it's the size of a Zeon suit. It would need HS's beam coating and a shield to be able to survive.

>>14947534
I was under the impression that the ZZ had those in the non-anime.

>>14947561
It sure did. Heck, it even has a shield on each wrist in the model. And Doven Wolf had funnels in the show. But... something happened along the way, I guess. They "didn't want to spoil the game balance" I bet - after raping it to oblivion with jO jO's bizarre obesity and Mk. II chuuni version.

>>14947596
>>14947561
And let's not forget that ZZ was supposed to transform.

>>14947097
Whoa first try?

>>14947097
Lucky duck. 22 spins and only 2 silver guncannons.

>>14948157
Look at it this way, at least you didn't have to go through 147 spins for a Gold Jegan A2.

>>14948425
whaddafuck
also whaddafuck at this last game. Team get's ass pushed in whole game, manage to score 5th place with 430~ points.
Still lose 140 rank points.
Thanks bandai

>>14948478
I really wanted that Jegan. It does pretty decently in the meta where the FA BR and Shield Missiles can guarantee you some points.

Also it might also depend on your team's score at the end.

>>14948478
There's 2 scores that affect your points apparently. Your placement and how anally destroyed your team as a whole is. So even if you place in top 10, if your team did really bad you'll still lose over 160 points while if you are 4X and you won your game by a margin, you'll probably get less than 50 points increase

>>14948495
Team loss/win shouldn't affect your score as much i believe, since 1 person usually can't sway things one way or the other.

Its pretty simple now. If your team loses really hard, top placers with still probably lose at least 100, every one else will drop closer to 200 or more. Losing by a small margin and placing well means you'll lose less than 100. "Placing well" should be restricted to around 1-30. You lose and you score bad, rip you dude

>>14948520
Yeah but it does and S/C rank on the match W/L can give you a big +/-160 so if you get continous huge losses, you can only enjoy deranking.
>>14948425
Took me about 13 super rolls to get mk-2 when it came out as well. It was so painstakingly long just to get 1 gold suit.

>>14948144
2nd 10+1 pull. Honestly kinda stunned. I've been getting few devices for the event and failing upgrades at 2% failure rate recently so I guess it's the game giving me a freebie.

>>14948649
Jealous as hell haha. I am still trying to get my Stark Jegan.

>>14948520
I think the best way would be letting personal score get to the positive even if the team's losing. But then they'd need to rework the scoring system again since scoring high atm doesn't really mean "trying to win", in fact it's quite the opposite.

>>14948717
Is it common to have a losing streak on the feds? Then when I play my zeek I lose there too.

>>14948920
Yes, cause it's all RNG. The other team just had balance and synergy than yours

>>14948717
That would basically be the old system.

>>14949088
Since when?

>>14949461
In the old system, if you team lost but you still performed well, you essentially rose through the ranks. Same as what you explained, we just couldn't see it

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HERE WE GO

So what is the fed's equal to the nade lobbing zeeks can do in the map with the Red MA?
While The win rate I've seen is still roughly 50/50 I've noticed that when zeek teams realized they can lob grenades for free hits to the fed center base it's a pretty quick win for them.

Also why does it feel like so many people just don't bother following up on near kills? like shoot a rocket around the corner fuck.

(I'm just salty that I can't carry beyond netting 2nd-7th place)

>>14949587
The same corresponding base the Shamblo. Depends on the map situation and where the boost gauge is at. Be a full-fledged support player, start hitting everyone in the map for some kill assists, or steal kills.

>>14949587
Bottom part of the Shamblo is unshielded. Feds can do the same grenade lobbing shenanigans from any direction, provided the angle is just right to slip the grenades in through.

>>14949587
>While The win rate I've seen is still roughly 50/50

Ha. Haha. Ha.

>>14949587
It depends on who controls the mid field where all the grenade lobbing areas are which in my case always isn't my team

>>14950620
What mid there is alot of mid field points the one with at the docks?

>>14951240
From my understanding whoever holds 4 is free to lob grenades at the enemy base. And actually, feds may not even need 4 to nade base. I'm not 100% sure

>>14952099
It's not directly related, but controlling the whole mid area for grenade throwing requires the team to be better at skirmishing/brawling, which usually enables them to easily control 4 as a result.
Spawning from 4 starts you closer from the middle, but only just, and both sides can just use the beacons for it anyway.

I'll have to go into practice mode and see where I can nade from, I didn't think there were opening's in the MA's field.

>>14952255
Hmm so it seems I need to unlock longest throw.

so after the update is it still recommended to max load capacity? does it affect the down gauge?

>>14952255
>>14952297
Yeah, quick throw, and some measure of fuse lengthening.

>>14952774
It does effect it, but it doesn't seem to do much, even boost speed bonus seems lower than before.
>>14952844
Yeah tried it with the 2nd tier long throw and could do it from point 3, so it seems you need tier 3 long throw to do it from the mid-map point.

>>14952899
Grenading can be done from both north and south central points. As such, it is frustrating when your team potatoes around their part of the highway.

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>>14952935
Yeah I can see that now. Just need some more grey cables to unlock longest throw so that I can pitch in with more than just healing and zone control on that map.
Still trying to figure what to do on the updated Gryps though, as I can't seem to do much to keep the psycho dives at bay, and trying to back door via holding and advancing the sides we still seem to lose there as well.

>>14952958
You have to control the space areas and keep your centre alive to reliably win. Controlling the space points allows flanking from so many directions that there is no longer any possibility of a reliable defense on the centre. It also allows breakthroughs to the battleship bases.

It's a map where if you defend, you lose. The best bet to taking the space is teamplay with guncannons and fags.

>>14952969
Hmm Alright I'll keep at it on the sideline control and keep radars on the inside and just hope the rest of the team gets it together.

>>14952986
If you're on a silver zeek team, forget about it. These potatoes get agoraphobic if pulled out of the fucking tunnels. And jesus christ, it's raining SML's outside.

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THE SALT

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Oh hey we actually did it once
>>14953030
Eh The Feds can be the same way, or none of them will try and intercept the oncoming Psycho's or just ignoring the sides entirely.

>>14953086
By a quick calculation, I am on a 90% loss rate at the moment. There's nothing but insanity to be gained from being forced to play in a team that has more than 20 players in the northern tunnel at all times, and up to 5 in the middle.

And the most outstanding point of this divide is that they let a nuke through in the north even despite it. A lone fucking nuke carrier.

>>14953131
I had the team ignore a nuke carrier who was in wards almost his whole trip. It was pretty annoying. I went to intercept with my Zeta but there too many for just me and the other guy who also looked at the map who came along.
Shit can be real rough friend.

>>14953131
Crap, I forgot "in texas" from there.

>>14953131
>>14953135
Texas Colony is a fun map.

>>14953283
It is, but whoever at the dev team thinks having it in 99% of the map rotations is a good idea needs to get slapped.

>>14953283
It is. Just frustrating when your team does not understand how to win the map, while the opponent team does.

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I want off Mr Bidan's Wild Ride.

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>>14953648
you don't even know fampie, you don't even know
>mfw I go afk twice in a row and now stuck at baby green

>>14954304
playing baby green matches must be even more gay then bronze matches if there is even any green rank players to begin with.

Also the fact that your team MUST win. You can be the top player each. single. match and if the match is lost it doesn't matter. You lose points.

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>>14954344
Seems like either team has no idea what to defend and what to attack in baby green, its pretty damn gay. I have an easier time ranking up with my zong character
Zion seems to still have a decent advantage over feds. I should go post my win and loss ration for both characters.

Pic related, only way to not lose over 150+ points is to place in the tens with a A score. I lost maybe 50 points when this happened. If you get a dumb B score then thats about 200+ points, I really don't understand the why you lose so much

>>14954384
Depends on the top match score. I lost 160 from that and 100 from individual making a total of -260 pts the other day. Getting nuked in texas colony because your team forgot to put up radar in the south tunnels does that to you

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>>14954853
This is why i make it a habit to almost always bring either my trainer GM or my Knight Seeker(support).
Free points+map awareness.

I do sometimes just say fuck it and bring only my assaults and stuff though, cause even i need a break from healing here and there.

>>14954994
I did that but while i was busy on other parts of the map, no one renews their old parts and we get buttfucked from behind since 1 mechanic can't cover all the important check points.

should I be using modules whenever I can or just for something that could use it very well? I feel like the time increase is too big to justify it sometimes.

>>14947534
CBR's are the age of the past, ZZ has so much goddamn health that its size is mostly irrelevant. Its firepower is quite strong.

>>14947596
Doven Wolf had incoms, not funnels.

>>14955176
Gook or ESL which one? Also please stop talking about this game you fucking downie. Every time you talk about this game it's just shit coming out of your mouth.

>>14955280
Do not speak to it, fucklenuts. That's the only rule of dealing with it. Do not fucking react to its presence and blithering.

fucklenuts. This is why everyone thinks 4chan is a shithole

>>14955478
Ahhhhh my b

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Flashes suck

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wow I didn't know MSGO thread exist on 4chan!

Rate my deck lineup?

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>>14953648
>>14954304
>>14954384
Maybe I'm having the devil's luck but it feels a lot different here. And yeah the Japs call the baby ranks "game over rank" because good luck getting out of there.

>>14956337
Im getting back to gold slowly but surely.

>>14956114
All great, strong suits.

I hate them all. (ꐦ°᷄д°᷅)

>>14956355
Thanks! By the way, as you know this game needs team tactics for win and follow commander's order so that you have to have certain Japanese (jp ver.) reading skills to follow up. You guys should offer business idea to BN for establishing English version, so that hopefully we might be able to fight witin each cloud like JPN vs. US, US vs. Europe.

>>14956337
Man i am jealous, i usually go up like 100 and drop down 150. It's really killing my motivation to play.

>>14956758
That would be very entertaining. As for now, people like myself are left to reading the numerals and guessing the context by seeing how people deploy, and then deploying in after them. There appears to be a translation application for TW version chatbox, and I think it might be employable for JP to ENG too, but I haven't heard on that subject yet.

I'd say I prefer not having a full US team or even US servers. It'll just turn into memes and shittalking.The servers would flood with people who probably wouldn't even know what gundam is to play a "third person mecha game" and then the bm and memes would flood in. The fact that JP is in Japanese is what is keeping a lot of garbage away...and ping of course.

>>14956337
Idk what kind of bread winners your running but I wish that was me. Thankfully I got back to baby bronze last night. But not sure if i can keep that rank with my luck, or just all those The O base rushes.
Think I'm just going to keep taking screenies of this and my win/ lose ratio. Seems like all the good feddies are all in in silver and gold

>>14956986
I feel you man, if I lose to many points I'll just stop playing for the day. Maybe this is what they wanted to happen like gundam battle operations

>>14957042
Get a mine setter, set up mines in the does/base. I can take a pic of my mine layout if you want when I'm on next

>>14957125
Shit thats a gosh plan, I had a gm sniper custom on TW before I came back to nippon. Might just go buy a silver right after this game.
And go for it with that pic, this thread can always use more in game shots

>>14957162
The basic gm/zaku sniper have mines and ammo ammunition as well as radar for full support.

>>14957162
As >>14957417
said, the basic one will do. 220 cost as well so easy to fit in.
Only down is that they can't carry a CBS, but the 7 round SA rifles are solid as well. Damage is so-so, but you'll be knocking everything down with no worries.

Speaking of snipers, is there any real reason to use the continuous beam sniper rifles?

>>14957649
I use the continuous snipers to take down battleships.

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>>14957666
That's what i see but i guess it seems like I still do more with my 7-shot rifle even then(plus dont have to sit in one spot)

Also sorry to be late on the mine picture, decided to log into my Zeon character for once and rolled the DX gacha twice.
Now why can't I have this luck for the ZZ?

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Okay here's that mine picture 12 hours later or whatever.
Also use F Mines, upgrade their Radius to about 3k, then the rest to Damage.
quality MS paint skills included.

>>14956986
>>14957042
It's kind of the prisoner's dilemma, really. If you and everyone else tries to win, everyone ranks up. However, if someone prefers to hoard points instead, the team loses but he gets the least punishment because of his points. If everyone hoards points, everyone loses. Even worse because even when you hoard points you can sometimes win because others tried too hard (or imbalanced matchmaking), giving you mad rank up.

How do charge weapons work now? You charge it up and the dp go up by same amount?

>>14957674
I got so lucky on the DX gacha I got two red bawoos. GOLD PRINT!

Now if only I got more garage space for suits.

>engineer places a repair pod right where the enemy is hurling explosives

sasuga

>>14957816
DP goes up by the amount the damage goes up, I believe.
So a weapon that does 2x damage upon full charge will have its DP 2x as well.

>>14954994
one time I was on the train to nyc, and I kept looking at this chicks tits through the reflection. She caught on, lemme tell you...it was pretty embarrassing.

In case some one doesn't know, maintenance is happening tomorrow instead

>>14958167
well today is a holiday in japan.

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Lit

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>When feds are point stacking something fierce.

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>>14958478
Step your game up and get a killing spree going

>>14958674
I did earlier with the Gallius J, think i hit fucking 22 kills before eventually dying during a base rush with the team.

>>14956114
What's that yellow thing on the right?

>>14959522
Looks like the GM intercept custom

>>14959522
GM Intercept Custom.

Got a gold Psycho Zaku, whats the best load out for it?

>>14959659
Sturms

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I've been gone for 3 months, what's TW and how come I don't need a VPN to play?

>>14959659
Charge Zook, sturm, and then regular zook to spray

>>14957024
>The fact that JP is in Japanese is what is keeping a lot of garbage away.
Nigger you just can't read enough jap to tell that it's still fucking there.

>>14960158
What're you even talking about? I can play the game just fine with muscle memory and memorization. Callin me a nigger too? Goodjob Gundam 4chan. Proving yet again the thread is filled with idiots. But yeah what point were you trying to make? That didn't really make any sense. xD

>>14960168
>xD
Fuck off. I'm telling you the garbage you think you're escaping is still there, you just can't read the shit they type.

What the fuck happened to maint and why can I still not use these devices? And why did I only get three event tickets and never any more?

>>14960038
Taiwan server and they never cared about foreigners in their games.

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>>14960193
Aw, that's nice of them.

>>14960188
maintenance is today friend

>>14960218
eh?

>>14960175
You fuck off. I was talking about American trash you silly goose. Sure there's probably japanese trash in there. But American trash is a no no.

>>14960225
the maint you're wondering about. It's today

>>14960243
You added nothing to the answer. WHY?

>>14960249
Quit trolling me pls

>>14960254
No fuckass, WHY IS IT A DAY LATE

>>14960256
BECAUSE IT WAS A FUCKING HOLIDAY IN JAPAN

>>14960259
THANK YOU

>>14959659
Don't forget the machine guns

>>14960033
>>14960153
>>14960705
Don't know if these are meant to be serious.

Just load all the normal zooks (left, right, dual, handheld), always fire on rush mode, and stick your ass on an ammo pod.

>>14960714
The splash is gone though

>>14960999
This little guy seems actually fairly competent. Instant switch bazooka and howitzer, little else. Like a junior fire truck.

They both seem decent but a little confused on the Char custom, the bazooka is really weak. Wonder if the the stats and such will carry it enough.
Otherwise though I'm glad they turned out the way they did.

>>14960999
it has a defense mode like the fatb, which reduces all damage taken by 40% and reduces speed by half. machine cannon is usable in this mode.

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>>14961202
Sorry, char zaku is garbage. its gimmick is decent, but even with that, you only get 2 melees and the overheat cooldown is huuuuge. rip

>>14961228
Yeah Not really sure why they decided to give it such a harsh cooldown considering its weapons aren't anything crazy.
And RIP I can't even afford the gold Char custom, I just kept getting the 3 point rewards :')

>>14961242
Oh just saw we can still net devices til the 7th.
Hmm, Still tempted to just get the Gyan though as I don't have one yet.

Well it seems after months of steadily worsening performance the game has reached an unplayable framerate, not to mention load times. Did the calculations and at the start of a match I launch over 10 seconds later than everyone else. Anyone had this or know how to fix it?

I have a suspicion that it's windows 10 since other games are running worse too.

>>14961262
My game runs perfectly fine. As well as all my other games.

>>14961262
Hey man, I had the same problem after an update on windows 10 a while back.
Set your battery up for performance. It fixed everything for me so I hope it'll work for you too!

I can't play for shit tonight but I want all these rewards
Life is suffering.

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>>14956337
>rank in the 20s
>still gets +249
Enjoying it while it lasts.

>>14961202
The machine gun seems to give good down points.

The gimmick is basically low cost EXAM. Kinda interesting.

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This game makes me hate myself

Really though why did I only get three event tickets

>>14961741
>DZA
Mah nigga. It got buffed hard.

>>14961228
>char zaku is garbage
>it's seen everywhere in gold compared to the guncannon

uhhh ok???

>>14961741
Yeah, this game makes me hate you too.

Well, not really, but it was a joke that practically made itself at this point.

>>14961228
Hey now, that ain't got no truth to it. Char Zaku is great. It has a small category of advantages to it, but they are significant.

1: Cost. 240 points. You can throw it away.
2: Speed. 1185 base, eligible for high mobility passive. This puts it above the 1176 median of over-340 suits, passing the ordinary modes of Zeta Gundam and Bawoo, and equating its speed with GP01, of all things. This is not ordinary speed. This is the kind of speed that goes unnoticed only in Gelgoog-sized suicide chunks. And on that subject;

3: Size. I kid you not, this is the most powerful ability in the game. Being small is an absolute power. Ask any Gigan jockey. The Zaku 1 silhouette is one of the slimmest, shortest humanoid types in the game, and does not possess any large forward protrusions like most shields bigger than knuckle shields. It also has a very slmi firing silhouette with its MG. This is important simply because there is no other way to avoid immediate, regretful fiery death in this game than dodging. And with a combination of speed and small silhouette, a lot can be achieved.

4: The special rush mode. This isn't as much a combat mode, but an elaboration of the Zaku I's football helmet and shoulder pads appearance. In this mode, the Zaku is meant to emulate its handegg origin, madly rushing forward for the goal with the conspicuously not-ball-shaped ball, delivering either kicks to bases, or the "ball" in form of a nuclear bomb.

Another handegg player comparison is drawn from the fact that after running 50 meters, Char Zaku has to take a long ass commercial break before he can do anything strenuous again.

>>14961741
That sure is alot of garage slots you got there. I wish I had a million slots for all muh zakus. Shit is there even a max garage slot limit?

>>14961901
Obviously people are going to try a new suit when it comes out. Also didn't the Guncannon get slapped by the nerf bat too?

>>14962070
So yes, the size is great, that is true. The speed is also fine. The main problem with the suit is the 'rush mode' is one time use. Its basically a rush mode and die suit. Because after you do your spazz out kicks, I bet you're overheated. And that means your dead cause Char needs to go on a lunch break after he does that shit. I'd have to look again to be sure, but I don't believes the weapons are very great at all. Obviously you can make anything work at this point, but the suit isn't very good. At all.

>>14962509
The rush mode isn't meant to be used in normal combat. It's just a suicide mode. Have you ever used the Efreet Kai?

As for weapons and stats, the machine gun is above average. As the poster you're responding to pointed out, the speed isn't fine, it's absolutely incredible for a low cost suit.

Also I'd suggest people to run with the M type bazooka. It's surprisingly efficient at dealing DP in rapid succession.

>>14962689
Nah I don't run Efreets. Gelgoog's and Kampfers till the death of Zeon. Anyway, if you made it work and people aren't popping your 1400 HP cherry instantly, good for you. Guess you can make it work.

>>14962766
I'll run it with muh Zudah in a high-speed deck.

>>14962499
How could it have gotten nerfed? It just came out within like a day.

>>14962509
It can get DII melee and I know one of the melee attacks has an AoE shockwave. It's kind of hard to dodge melee like that against a suit so fast.

>>14962832
Oh that Guncannon. The one I shoot at literally every match because Fed's see it has a defense mode and expect to pop off in it. Don't kid yourself. The Guncannon is in every match lol

>>14962802
shit

>>14962832
Gook or ESL which one you stupid nigger? Also please shut the fuck up you know nothing about this game you inbred shit

>>14962499
The dnew detector cannon took a small hit to the beam rifle's damage. The F is the same damage but the regular and M took a hit.

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>actually has a spy on zeon that queues together and gives radar info
anything to win

>>14963371
Sounds like something Crix would do.

>>14963397
That dumbfuck isn't even Admiral sooooo

>>14963397
>>14963414
He couldn't possibly do it. He has no friends to spy for! Wahaha!

The GM Quel's "melee" needs to be removed. Why is it even a thing.

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Pretty good AoE.

Too bad it kills boost gauge unless you go comet, and then it kills you entirely.
Also still smaller than Quel's.

But eh it's a "free" suit afterall.

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lolnope

Putting the boost recharge module on Char Zako was a very good idea. I can easily race along side 340 cost suits with this thing.

Anyone had the game stop accepting their card? Worked a few months ago but now it says it isn't 3d secure registered. All I want is to get some bc to change the title theme back to unicorn.

>>14964439
Lol what you buy music?

>>14964439
Wont accept mine either, so i used all game cash

>>14964439
Try to register it again.

>>14964357
Boost recharge module? There's no such thing.

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>Use a master ticket to build with a 79% great success chance
>regular success
I feel the RNG has gotten a bit worse since the update, I've failed at a 12% rate several times

>>14966163
Think he maybe means the boost efficiency one.

>>14966317
It would surprise absolutely no-one. Bamco baboons have been suspected of fixing percentages on so, so, so many events before, it's practically the basic expectation now.

>>14966163
I meant Overheat cooling. The amount that it speeds up the recharge is very noticeable.

>>14966317
Of you didn't know, you can fail at 0%. It happened to me once and I saw a streamer with the same shit

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>>14967284
That cattle thieves my Jameses. Godamn.

The upgrade event has been bad rng

>>14968389
I really don't get why they had the idea to put x3 into the thing. The only thing I'm happy for is I've gotten x10 more than x3, but it pisses me off to no end after winning clutch games and passing 10 score points with an S Rank, you just get 3 of those modules.

>>14963703
Char Zaku I has a quel melee at 240 cost!

>>14955176

>Crix

Why are you even still here. We make fun of you every time you post. You and Omega scammed a bunch of players out of money, and think you can just carry on like no one will remember? Ha. Ha.

>>14962070
I have to amend this a little. It appears you can't activate the speedy mode while carrying a nuke, due to the way the activation key overlaps with the bomb.

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OH BOYYYY

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Odessa is a fun map

>>14969162
Yeah, setting it down, activating, and picking back up(at least with a foreign connection) isn't going to really get you much, if at all extra distance.
Still good unit though, same with the guncannon.

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Just realised the recoil compensation module works for Sturm Dias' heavy beam cannon, and it's great.

I can finally get some actual hits with the damn thing now.

>>14970331
now try it on any high ROF weapon

>>14970338
I already know the module helps weapons with strong or rapid kickbacks. It also does wonders to B3 stuff like the B3 sniper rifle, etc.

It's just that the Sturm Dias beam cannon actually has this annoying nudge to BEFORE it even fires (precoil?), making aiming relatively difficult. And apparently, the module helps with it.

>>14971551
Neato, I'd love to see the change in action(no sturm dias to try it myself)

>>14972261
Said weapon is a gold-only option for the Sturm Dias though, barely anyone here would have it.

>>14972492
fug

Got my Gyan
Now if only I could I learn to carry folks better.

I wish Char Zaku I had better weapons, the speed is absolutely stupid for 240 cost.

>>14973155
Are you complaining about it or complimenting it?

It already has good enough weapons. If you can't win with a machinegun at this meta, then you wouldn't win with a GP02 nuke.

>>14973190
Not him but I initially thought the MG was gonna be disappointing but:
That accuracy
That lock on
THAT FUCKING RELOAD RATE
It's p good, plus the grenades are tight. Do wish the boost cost on D-type was better though.
Still fucking great unit for the cost.

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I was browsing the leaderboards just now, and realized that the top Zeon heavy player on the whole ranking came in 17th. All above were feds. And they all used one and the same suit, some even four of the same.

GM Early Type, beam shooter, with a BR and a 3p MG.

Holy shit, this is obnoxious. But I understand perfectly - you can just plaster the little fucker with modules and enjoy all of the best parts of the new meta, right out of the door, as long as you play Fed.

Pictured is the current no. 1. Gunner Gundams in the mix, for that extra bit of "I got these for free" bullshit.

>>14973964
Damn I was using the shitty zooks on those cheap ass GM's. forgot all about the beam rifles.

>>14973964
You guys at least have access to a 3 point gun as well, though while missiles are great now in this case the tri-pod missiles certainly lose out to the BR.

>>14973190
Only has one weapon

whats the track playing during the new intro and login screen?

>>14974596
MSGO original track, probably.
http://msgo.bandainamco-ol.jp/UC0088/audio/bgm.mp3

>>14973964
you have to note that they're probably using the autoclicker macros to get maximum fire rate over the semi-auto beam rifles.

>>14974607
Pretty sure that player is using semi-auto beam rifles. They are much better in terms of DP. 3burst MG is for killing power like always.

fuck i'd play this game if my work schedule was the total opposite of JP/TW/Asia hours.

i miss being zeon's zaku 1 sniper admiral

>>14974607
Macros eh? Is that even a bannable offense for MSGO? or they just don't give a fuck.

>>14974715
iirc it was clearly stated as bannable, but then I guess they gave up enforcing it.

>>14974666
MIKAN THAT YOU???

>>14974715
They also have a super-rigid logon for the most, by my experience. You can do any kind of loops around one of these dopes and they'll track you perfectly.

>>14975144
this really confused me for a moment since you said logon and not lock-on haha.
I guess all the more reason to not worry about being in gold or not.

All these excuses for being bad at the game lol. Can't be my fault for being baddddd

Lets be honest here. Unless you want DX tickets from the leaderboards, theres no big reason to be gold.

>>14975243
I'd love them but Im not gonna spend a bunch of money rolling for Jii-o or using an aimbot/point farming.
+ I still usually get in the top 10 so fuck it.

>>14975244
What does spending money have to do with anything? I haven't dropped a dime in the game and I'll be getting multiple DX tickets due to placing high in different leaderboards

>>14975251
Just saying JiiO spam is still pretty relevant towards which team wins or loses.
Also I still do my best, I'm sitting around early gold right now, just at the same time I'm not gonna use a bot like it's been theorized >>14973964
these folks did.

>>14975263
O spam is relevant. All I can say is kill them. O's are ridiculously easy to kill now. Especially considering half of them refuse to awaken early because they're getting stunned up by vulcans and BR's.

>>14975274
Well maps like Odessa it's hard to take fucking 12 of them rushing B even Zeta. So even if I'm top 10 like last game, if the enemy simple rushes JiiOs better/have more it's over so quickly.
And then you take like a fucking 200 point hit.

>>14975274
>O's are ridiculously easy to kill now.
killing them is easy. you'd still lose if they have more than your team, though.

>>14975286
Also untrue. I've been apart of more than a few defenses resulting in a complete wipe of an enemy teams O rush. It just depends on which team defends well also.

>>14975290
what suit did you use?

>>14975314
trusty Kampfer.

>>14975290
Yeah but when both teams try to out O each other it ends being a game of numbers.
I've had many successful defenses and kills on JiiO, especially since the awakening nerf but it's still a huge power card to anyone who has one.

>>14975290
Not him (I'm >>14956337 )
, but in games I play defense only works on some maps and those maps are mainly non-rush maps like the blizzard and Torrington (the one with the tower, not Shamblo). In most maps, it's almost always better to have more Jios rushing at their enemy base rather than an extra defender, as well as multi-Jio decked rats to keep the pressure off contested points. Not saying they're useless, you do need that one or two person distracting some of their Jios just so that your team's Jios die sooner than theirs. Also you seem to downplay the attacking Jios' capability to only rush at the base instead of coordinated killers and base damagers, which is what most of the platooned Jio deckers do.

I have never, ever, see any team with less Jio-decked admirals win since their introduction.

>>14975237
Go away, tummywubs.

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>>14973155
Well it's a giveaway suit. Can't let everyone be THE Char.

>>14975364
Pretty sure its crix.

This game is so fucking hard all these Os and my shitty suits cant do anything. This isnt my fault though im good at games. I watched so many Polar videos. This is a shitty game that is unbalanced and not fair. Who else is with me? This game is hard. Also neogoon is inactive is moobs the only one that plays???

Don't respond to it.

>>14975364
>Looks up tummywub
>Multiple top 5s with bad suits
Is the char zaku good?

>>14975390
see >>14975364

>>14975390
Which Char Zaku?

Also, second for go away tummywubs.

>>14975391
This game is hard. But it cant be my fault. Its not me thats bad its the game right?

>>14975364
Yeah go away dude we know youre better than everyone in the thread

>>14975390
Well I did top rank with a Xamel, so it's really not about the suits but it's more on how you farm those points.

>>14975390
Look just because you use your brain and have functioning motor skills doesnt mean youre good

>>14975390
for point farming, the machinegun's good.
main thing about score is that it highly awards killstreak. so if you forever stay in a safe waypoint spamming shots at enemies (which will grant you a kill even if you only hit it once), run at any hint of trouble, and generally don't help with pushes you will get a lot of killstreak going.

bonus points for constantly complaining about shit teammates and supports that have a lot of other things to be done than keep topping off your ass all the time because you don't want to die so much for that killstreak.

>>14975359
netgun easily shaves 5 seconds off that 13 seconds awakening.
it's very doable to defend. although, it's generally useless if the base you're defending ends up dead anyway, you'd be better off defending the other bases.

>>14975405
I don't think there's anyone who doesn't know how to kill a jio here.

It's never about the jio. It's about the second, third, fourth jio that come.

>>14975405
Who is complaing about bad supports? Taiwan?

>>14975390
LOL THIS FAGGOT MADE A GUNDAM TUTORIAL LETS DISLIKE IT Fucking nigger thinks hes better than us

>>14975399
And most of the time it's not about winning, either. In fact it's more the opposite:
- See that rat going for your base? Don't mind him, just keep killing whatever you and your hundreds of teammates are also doing because you won't get any points for killing a rat in-transit.
- See that Jio awakened and attacking your base? Hit it once and go for the others because you'd only get points for one kill if you try to kill him.
- See the pack of enemies going for your waypoint? Lob bazookas or grenades from safety and run away if you lost the point instead of contesting it because killstreak will be gone if you died.

The only time points correspond to win contribution is base damage and I'm sure nobody here does that.

>>14975423
Nobody ever helps defend bases...

>>14975418
He is better than possibly all of you. I wouldn't deny the possibility.
>>14975423
Going for a rat is highly dependent on your suits recall rate. If you're sitting at 15+, the rat will probably be dead before you can spawn back in. Of course this depends on the distance. Tagging O's is only justified when your team is definitely going to lose. Losing a waypoint doesn't mean much when you can just regroup and take it back. OR you have a team full of jobbers. It happens

>>14975416
I didn't die, though, I'm safely plinking them from above. Can't say the same about the base.

>>14975426

>>14975418 is obviously a false flag, and probably the same guy as >>14975383 and >>14975237
Wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the twitch regulars. I don't know why "gundam 4chan" triggers him so much, though.

>>14975426
>>14975418
Jesus, tummycrix, you are pathetic.

>>14975433
It triggers him because while it could be him, responses like that aren't rare here. I can recall a few threads back when it was just complaints and whining.

>>14975433
What does he sperg about? The couple of times I watched he talked shit about how we all have brain tumors

>>14975434
I'm actually stealing that name. too good

>>14975434
Yeah fuck that dumbass for being better than us

>>14975435
Eh, probably, constantly bringing that up out of the blue when nothing even happens is childish though. Said complainers might've quit the game altogether, who knows.

>>14975443
It's constantly brought up because it doesn't stop my friend. I will admit it has cooled down a bit lately.

>>14975445
Well, I don't see what excuses >>14975237 pertains, but whatever I'm dropping this shit.

>>14975435
It triggers him because he feels an unquenchable need to be the center of attention, on an imageboard built around the idea of anonymity.

I mean, look at >>14975440, the constant funposting with his own character screenshots always in the middle, the livestreaming, the "tutorials"... it's like watching a teenage girl discover the power of selfies, except creepier and with even more nasally shrill shrieking.

>>14975423
I wish they'd fix the points system. The Japanese community already complain about those gomikuzu players that hoard points instead of trying to win, so I guess they would eventually.

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Jesus I try to sleep and come back to this

>>14975449
Salt

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>>14975454

I'm back ladies and losers. Sieg WhitePiggu the forgotten ones

>>14975426
Wasn't trying to justify anything, I was just saying that you're awarded more points for not trying to win instead of otherwise.

>>14975449
Yeah wtf is up with those livestreams, tutorials AND OMG those platoon screenshots it was totally for attention and not trying to bury white cu---- oh fuk

>>14975464
The worst part is that even if you don't try to win, your team can still win the match and you're rewarded even more with your score, and you get punished for much less if you lose. So it's actually the best way to gain ranks.

>>14975467
thats pretty much the best way to play. excluding the not trying to win part.

>>14975468
>I can't read

>>14975470
You might need glasses friend

>>14975468
As I said, >>14975423 getting points and trying to win are somewhat mutually exclusive at this point. Personally I don't really care, I'm already admiral and I too can easily just rake up the points. I'm just putting it out there for those trying too hard to win by watching for flanks etc.

>>14975473
Proof? Censor your name if you want. A lot of people lie here about admiral

>>14975477
I'm >>14956337 damn I keep linking that post lol

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>>14973964
Ok, so I've just tried it. Yeah, it's pretty cheap.
Although macroing mouseclicks definitely helps;
here's a very old video showcasing the effect of macros to semi-auto weapon rate of fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGsm1Vr8kGU
; you can still get by without just fine.
If your aim is good, you can simply use the normal type beam rifle for maximum damage/clip, but alternatively you can just use the H variant due to its high lock on value. The increased range of the H type helps with the sure-hit nature of it, 4 shots or less to stagger them and another 4 to down them.
The main thing here, is that you can easily max out the beam shooter passive of the early type GM for that extra damage boost, making it even better than suits <320 cost (except the Gunner Gundam which somehow gets the 320 cost tier beam rifle).

>>14975654
I don't think the discussion of macros is relevant. That's something we shouldn't even pay attention to, because we don't stoop to that shit. And well, saying someone uses assistance outside the game resources just looks pretty bitter.

What is relevant is that it's an amazingly big off-the-shelf advantage that can't be replicated or competed with with the other team's resources. Or even difficult-to-obtain, high value DX suits on Fedside. A beam shooter 5 oldGM plastered with damage resistance modules and balance modules is outperforming the ZZ, and that's embarrassing.

>>14976236
is the ZZ not as good as the wolf then? I can get some solid shit done with my wolf, particularly the back cannons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51fRuTXuHZE&feature=youtu.be

>>14976481
It struggles. It's fat, and that's the biggest crime in the game.

>>14976526
I main heavy Zeon suits. Fat can be managed.

My favorite is the fucking HiSpd Dom for crying out loud.

>>14976481
ZZ barf beam switches to instantly, unlike Wolf's

>>14976773
yeah that's why im surprised it's losing to the early GM.
Then again, with the new KD system the earlygm just has a lot on its side.

I do still prefer the new system, just needs some polish.

>>14975654
Any strong Zeon counterpart? Obviously not to the Early GM, but to any semi-auto beam rifle build.

>>14977120
You can't really counter beam rifles. Maybe if your beam coated? That shit is going to hurt no matter what you do. The only hope is that they miss.

>>14977172
That was probably worded quite poorly. I just mean counterpart as in a similar build that a Zeon suit can use.

>>14977185
Ah. In that case there are more than a few Zeon suits with beam rifles you could pick up. I know the gelgoogs have them, but they are a bit on the hefty side. Besides them I'm not aware of any others of the top of my head

>>14977120
Maybe the Z'Gok or Gaza-C

>>14977185
Gelgoogs seem to be a safe bet besides the somewhat large size. Maybe Haman's Gaza C?

The Act Zaku is probably great if people still have those tucked away from when they were rather powerful.

>>14977120
Nothing within the same cost range. Closest is Acguy but the rifle is significantly weaker.

Oh heavy. Act Zaku heavy is a beast

>>14977219
Gonna clarify: I was looking at zeek suits low in cost and that had beam shooter.

>>14977120
Zeeks don't get beam rifles, we get charge Bazookas and Sturm Fausts instead. (And honestly they are more than a fair trade off, Charge Zooks4Lyfe

The only suits that are Good* Low Cost** and come armed with beam rifles on the zeek side that are Easily Available*** are the Glegoog Marine and a handful of aquatic suits. I guess you also have the Hizack, but its better off running Zook and Missles IMO.
*Debateable, also situational
**Under 300 cost
***Available in the Shop and DX Gasha

>>14977303
Bazooka's no longer anti-airing is a big hit though. toprip

>>14977303
Well, they used to be a fair trade off. I always had a Zaku IIF with rocket shooter in every loadout, but now I haven't really been able to get the same use out of it.

Gelgoog Marine is probably a decent option. If only I had a beam shooter of it.

>>14977309
That is truly a tragedy worse than nine hundred and eleven Holocausts.

>>14977309
Still always flinch though thankfully+boost drain.
Also you guys still have scary ground control what with the abundance of solid zooks and sturms.

Am curious though if they're going to balance/adjust numbers on weapons again, especially if the beam dominance continues.

Maybe buff the solid ammo guns a titch? Particularly their DP and the damage on the single action ones.

>>14977338
Beam dominance will never cease. Impossible.

>>14977300
Lowest cost for a heavy type semi-auto beam rifle (the buffed ones) with beam shooter passive are Galbaldy α (needs gold) and Hizack, at 280 cost. None of which gets the H type.

Otherwise, as been said above, the full auto assault beam rifles are on the aquatic suits mostly.

>>14977338
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a nerf on how much DP vulcans do right now, Guard custom GM's are back in force.

>>14977543
I see more on Zeon than Fed and I use the shit out of it.

New Hong Kong map changed is the "Battle Area" getting a bigger radius

Kill assist scoring getting some nerf

Loser side of the match has a slightly better ranking point calculation

Color variation for Galbady beta, Gallus J, and Eye-Zacks

Double playbonus ticket campaign

>>14977887
Kill assists getting a nerf? In that, you won't get a kill or the actual points given changed? Is there any specification?

>>14977887
>New Hong Kong map changed is the "Battle Area" getting a bigger radius


thank god that map was a clusterfuck during that part.

>>14977888
The time frame after you hit someone before it dies where it now counts as a kill gets shortened a bit, so it counts as an assist instead.
Basically "tagging" still works, but slightly less generous.

>>14977909
That's great then. As long as actual assisting is still encouraged, I won't mind.

>>14977543

You have no idea what you are talking about. Go back to discord before you embarrass yourself.

>>14977945
Autism

>>14977945

why do ppl take crix seriously after all these years? you think sdgo would teach people not to listen to him.

>>14977201
The problem is economy, I think. OldGM comes in at 200 points, with 10 slots, and a small frame. The first Zeon BR comes at 280 points, and is roughly Gelgoog-sized. Heavy Galbaldy requires DX to be burnt, too.

And the gunner gundam is a bit of a pickle because it's also a free suit, but has the 4000 base power N-type BR. That comes up in 320 category only, for Zeon, and only on DX suits.

I maintain that Zeon can't compete on BR heavies, but should play to their strengths. Mainly Gigans. Silver Gigans. Straight decks of 4 silver Gigans.

Bruh, Zeon would be in some shit if they nerfed vulcans now.

10 DX tickets for everyone

>>14978199
>got nothing out of them, both Fed and Zeon
of course

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>>14978199

>>14978199
>Get GP02 Gold on zeek
Nice, wonder what I'll get on feddie
>Literally all rental/starter suits
Hate you too bandai

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>>14978199
>>14978419
What a nice surprise.

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>tfw get nothing for feddies with the 10 DX tickets
>tfw get nothing but gold suits on zeon but its nothing I want expect the Zaku III Silver BP

Zaku III is still nice though.

>>14978538
It's nice until you realize how big it is.

>>14978566
its a big zaku

>>14978568
for haman-sama

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thanks pick-up gacha

>>14978837
Enjoy being catapulted to gold tier the instant you start using type F 6-shot bazooka.

>>14978047
Gigans and Zakutanks are definitely top tier. I don't think any meta can touch them.

Have you tried using the M type bazooka round instead of incendiary/howitzer? I saw someone on the leaderboards using it and decided to try it out. Pretty great.

>>14978837
Pick-up Gacha is actually pretty nice to roll for a chance at some random suit you may want out of 5.

Or you can have another GM gold print. All eleven of them.

>>14978905
I used to use it way back when, but then focused on the howitzers. I realize it has tons of advantages over its old form now.

>>14978905
Zakutanks are top tier? I don't even know what to equip on it.

>>14979058
Both the howitzers can still be very effective, but I feel the incendiary loses its strength when I can completely down immobilize them as long as I can land all three rounds.

>>14979070
Specifically the green Zakutank. It and the Gigan have similar loadouts. Either incendiary howitzer + howitzer F, or just bazooka M for the DP. Then just use one of the MGs for a secondary.

Due to the instaswitch, any combo they use is very powerful. I think the Zakutank can even get away with howitzer F + bazooka F as well.

>>14979139
Oh I don't have that green zakutank just the ones you start off with.

>>14979219
Starting Zakutank is capable too. It can hide behind very small cover, and it has the dual howitzer whammy. This is a very hurty package at low tiers. Plus it has hitpoints. All of the hitpoints. All of them. Godamn, it has hitpoints. You know? Zakutank rolls across the road, Gundam looks at it and goes "godamn, that fucker's in a wheelchair and stil lhas more hp than me". For real.

The vulcan's garbage, but you can make do. Just don't expect to chase down people you hurt.

>>14979054
I have all the suits I want for the feddies barring the Zaku IIF, 100 formulas and alex but I have so many high costs suits it isn't worth trying to get them.

I just hope I get a gold grandpa gundam at some point.

>>14977543
Yeah vulcans are retarded now. People charge with FAG(TB) in defense mode, spamming the vulcans while having the damage reduction.
Other low cost fed units I seen alot more are the Nemo and GM Cannon II

>>14980212
The Nemo is insane for its cost with the FA BR. and Quick Switch makes it better. Only downside for the unit is that it's a DX-only and doesn't come with Beam Shooter.