/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #1165

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Awaken, my loyal einherjar.

The time for our promised noble battle of 10,000 years has arrived.

>>14931840
Who are we fighting? If its FFXIV I'm out cause I don't waste time on MMOs

reposting because thread changed while typing
Timeline:
@ - 2000
@G - 2001
@2 - 2003
@3 - 2005
Z - 2008
Z2-1 - 2011
Z2-2 - 2012
Z3-1 - 2014
Z3-2 - 2015

Theoretically, the next SRW trilogy type thing might be coming soon, perhaps in 2018. What Letter do they use know that they already did A to Z? Any hopes for it in general?
Is V a stealth starter for the next Trilogy? V2, V3

>>14931847
Z will be the Classic Series to the next saga's Alpha Series, I'm calling it now

>>14931847
I hope the next trilogy get OG's engine (with the 3D camera)

>>14931847
>spoiler

If it is, they sorta shot themselves in the foot from the get go, as its current cast doesn't lend itself to a trilogy, let alone a sequel.

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>Vangrey's upgrade leaked

>>14931858
They're not exactly strangers to that as evident by what happened with Z.

>Hey guys if Z does well it'll totally be a new trilogy!

History tells us that devs who prematurely declare a trilogy tend to make shit sequels.

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>>14931847
So that's what V2 is for.

Now the question is, as usual, where's V3?

I've actually been out of the loop for a bit; I loved SRW Z and Z2; how was Z3? Is it worth buying?

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>>14931874
Right here!

>>14931877
If you liked Z2, you'll probably like Z3. Jigoku is an alright game with some absurdly broken systems, namely the Tag Tension system that on replays will let you clear almost every stage in the game in a single turn if you want to. The story is decent enough, with some nice buildup and an interesting villain. Tengoku is unfortunately kind of a letdown in the story department once it gets to the second half and the real villains, who it tries to hype way too hard, but it has better gameplay than Jigoku, with more diverse SR Point requirements and removal of the worst exploits. It's unfortunate that it could have been so much better, but it's still got some things going for it that make it worth one or two runs.

>>14931858
Well, there's apparently going to be dimensional travel, so they can just have the sequel take place in a different dimension with an entirely new cast, make everyone from V1 into supporting cast, and then toss out half of them for V3.

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>Jerid, Yspilon, Kan Yu, Mark Hunter teamed up

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I hope the next time they bring Zero out we get a ton of classic super robot shows to go along with it. I mostly want Jeeg though since we haven't seen him in awhile.

>>14931892
>Dimensional travel

We just had an entire series revolving around dimension shit. I hope they go the simple way of space travel.

The only way I'd accept dimension shit again is if they tie Cross Ange together with Might Gaine; to be specific, Embryo with Black Noir.

>>14931894
It's just weird that Zero will be a playable unit considering he fucking hates everything else besides himself.

>>14931906
Yeah, I feel like Zero will rage when it see Mazin Emperor G for the first time.

>>14931901
>The only way I'd accept dimension shit again is if they tie Cross Ange together with Might Gaine; to be specific, Embryo with Black Noir.
Pretty much what I'm expecting. I mean, Might Gaine's setting in particular might as well be proto-Big O.

>>14931923
So what exactly have the Kais ever actually accomplished? Cause it seems most problems in Super and the Buu Saga were their fault

>>14931927
Make it so Gods of Destructions are still around?

>>14931912
I would think he would be a boss actually, that would hate all new units. UNLESS its actually a sequel to Zero and Zero is all "Hey I am a good guy now"

I don't fucking know.

>>14931916
When are Might Gaine and Big O going to be in a game together?

>>14931927
King Kai was pretty chill and let dudes hang out even if they were supposed to be dead in heaven/on Earth with their loved ones.

>>14931943
If ZERO's the bad guy in the manga, what does Kouji pilot after he gets booted out of it after going berserk then?

>>14931923
Why is the purple half melting?

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>They recreated the Waverider Assault event from Zeta if you let Kamille kill Jerid.

>>14931966
Half mortal

>>14931943
I think we both know at this point that they're going to tiptoe the line of even mentioning the original ZERO plot and make some original origin for ZERO. Why else would they go out of their way to claim it as "units only" in the teaser? It's a giant red flag with the words "hey stupid, don't get your hopes up for plot" written on it.

>>14931974
"Here's Kouji and he has a cool looking different Mazinger".

The end.

>>14931966
Mortal side is trying to heal but can't due to the fucked up fusion.

>>14931965
Mazinger Z, its a weird fucking ending.

>>14931981
Just the plain old Mazinger? Not even the Kaiser?

>>14931986
Mazinger Z running off the power of Nostalgia.

Which, as we all know, is the strongest element in this genre or any other.

>>14931989
Stronger than Super Alloy Z, old man?

>>14931986
Not even Kaiser. Just plain ol Mazinger. Though he does get help from other robots like Gundam to Gypsy Danger.

>>14931847
V won't start a trilogy. It's the preparation for one starting in 2019 that'll sell outside Japan.

>>14931916
Might Gaine and Gakusaver in the same game when?

>>14931892
>>14931901
>Dimensional travel
'cause the V is for Voyage?

>>14931966
Plotholes.

>>14931948
Good question. Maybe in the same game that J-Decker debuts in.

>>14932003
Now there's a capital idea.

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>>14931847
When it come to the big saga trilogies (and some extras), the Classic one should count (2, 3, EX, 4/F/F Final).

I would guess the pause for a forth series would be longer this time, with the cash from X-Ω coming, V being made with Z3 reclyced material and a possible last game for the 3DS, since at this point is unknown how the Switch is gonna change things. Not to say the localization thing going on now...

Oh, and letters. Unless some letters 'reused' (ex: a SRW I), the latin alphabet is in short supply now.

>>14932013
>Now there's a capital idea.

I mean but the endings work so well.

>you teleport to the center of the universe near the end, get that yellow mech alien guy
>Young Man A tells you your world is a fake, made by beings who are currently going to delete it
>you can theoretically save yourself because the destruction travels at lightspeed...
>but one of them is kind of currently starting their own destruction of your planet.
>Beat up Black Noir, then final boss is against the "gods" who want to destroy your universe to prove you have the right to exist.

>>14932023
>SRW being made with reclyced material
Stop the presses

>>14932023
There's still the Greek alphabet, and they've only used Alpha and Omega.

>>14932023
You forgot "T"

>>14932023
I want you to pretend I'm posting the image of big bird holding the psychoframe because I don't have it handy at the moment.

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>>14932037
Ah, right.

>>14932035
>スーパーロボット大戦Δ
...I can dig that.

>>14932039
Took me a moment to realize what you meant, and it made sense.

>>14931994
The mighty power of Nostalgia trumps Super Alloy Z, Getter and Spiral Energy, Psycoframe technology, and even Old One derived magic.

Nostalgia is the ultimate sword and impregnable shield of all genre.

>>14932023
Fair point. Revised the timeline.
Timeline:
1 - 1991
2 - 1991
3 - 1993
4 - 1995
F - 1997
F Final - 1998
@ - 2000
@G - 2001
@2 - 2003
@3 - 2005
Z - 2008
Z2-1 - 2011
Z2-2 - 2012
Z3-1 - 2014
Z3-2 - 2015

This actually gives more credence to a sooner release of the next saga, but I agree that it will take some time. Personally I think they will want some more hype behind it, and have a more built up budget to blow some loads on big gets and storylines.

>>14932053
>>スーパーロボット大戦Δ
And it won't have Macross Delta.

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>>14932076
>And it won't have Macross Delta.

>>14932076
Maybe it'll show up pretty consistently like Frontier did.

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>>14932058

>>14932085
>GIRI GIRI AI every game
>same top ace every new SRW game unless Build Fighters also shows up
I'm okay with this.

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>>14932093

>>14932093
That guy was actually the reincarnation of the main villain, right? I seem to remember someone mentioning that.

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>>14932061
Good points on how to start things, but another question would be... how to keep things consistent or higher? Also, it would nice, this time, to have every series that was in the first game made into the finale.

Also, you forgot EX. Thats where GoShogun and Dunbine joined the fun.

>>14932023
would they really ever use "SRW H"

>>14932114
Would they ever use Q?

>>14932119
An interesting question. Should we query Bandai Namco with that? Or do you think it'll get stuck in their queue?

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>go in DW:G thread
>reminded of the Domon/Puru/Milliardo team
>realize there's no SRW that lets me have this
>mfw

>>14932125
F/Final would have been nice to do something like that.

>>14932125
You can deploy all three in OE!

It's, uh. It's still OE though.

>>14932135
That was before DW G.

>>14932142

OE lets you use specifically the Epyon?

>>14932142
I mean they still could have done something fun with them.

Can we just get G Gundam to come back?

>>14932150
Tournament focused game when?

>>14932146
No, the Tallgeese 1.

>>14932157

NOT THE SAME

>>14932121
The same kind of question as wondering if Squeenix will dare to go up to Final Fantasy XXX. Maybe if they completely exhaust their options.

>>14932201
Guilty Gear awkwardly avoided it.

>>14932205
So Final Fantasy Xrd?

>>14932205
There is nothing awkward about fusing X with Third to create Xrd.

>>14932119
Whats wrong with Q? Just say its Quest.

>>14932215
Yes you're right of course, dear.

>>14932217
Fear.

Fear Sahib and give glory to him.

For the hour of your judgement has come to you.

>>14931894
It actually looked more impressive than the Breast Fire shown in the teaser. The cyclone effects feels like Z3 Nu guy but there's no way, right?

>>14932216
So that would be the fantasy SRW? Fucking awesome.

>>14932230
Do want.

>tfw they make Tetsuya the main character instead of Kouji

About time!

>>14932225
>but there's no way, right?

It isn't. It's the same Mazinger animator.
It's possible that ZERO is getting carte blanche on his slate and thus a more polished moveset.

>>14932230
>>14932232
Compact 3's ridiculous half-assing of the concept annoys me, and Neo's off balance as fuck (And is also pretty half assed, it has, what, two fantasy series?).

A real, nice, decently put together fantasy SRW? Count me fucking in.

Because I've been thinking of this too much:
What I want the next saga to do is take advantage of the fact that alot of mecha meta franchises have sagas too and start doing them over the course of them. Do Macross then Plus then Frontier. Do OG Gundam, then Zeta, then ZZ/Char's Counterattack. Mazinger Z, then Mazinkaiser, etc etc. Itd work well with the whole split game thing SRW is doing now because they could recycle units and such with the longer storylines, and I feel like it would help with the epicness of it as a saga; universe's worth of plotlines coming to a head at similar times.
I'd also like a better mix of old and new, kind of like how @3 was at the time, with 70s series and 2000s series both taking large parts of the plot and focus, as opposed to Z where it felt like it focused on the newcomers.

>>14932237
Throw in Break Blade and other fantasy mecha series and shit would be great.

>>14932230
>>14932216
Bonus points if Rocket Slime is in the roster.

>>14932247
Never ever

>>14932247
Anon please you are giving me a huge boner from the idea.

>>14932216
>>14932230
>>14932232
>>14932237
>>14932246
Two questions on this then:

How many fantasy mecha there are?

AND WHAT GUNDAM AND MAZINGER WOULD THEY USE? Really, even in UX there was SKL, and no SRW ever dared to not include a Gundam.

>>14932268
Quite a bit, especially when factoring in manga like Rune Masquer and Mine Yoshizaki's version of Ramune & 40 Fire.

>>14932268
Turn A Gundam

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>>14932268
>Gundam
Include Sangokuden for additional SEIGI and TAMASHIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>>14932125
Reminder that DW:G had Jerid leaving the titans to train with Master Asia. Will Jerid ever be this badass in SRW?

>>14932268
>How many fantasy mecha there are?

We used to make lists, that might be gone from the archive, of series that could go in.

There are forty or fifty of them, a lot centered around the period from the late 80s to mid 90s.

>AND WHAT GUNDAM AND MAZINGER WOULD THEY USE?

Let's do this one at a time.

>GUNDAM

SD Gundam Gaiden, of course. Or maybe SD Gundam Sangokuden BBW? Both work. Since Dunbine, Lamune, New Getter, Escaflowne, and other such series have a non-magic Earth you can have a few of those happen there as backstory stuff to.

>MAZINGER

GOD FUCKING MAZINGER, THAT'S WHO!

Mazinger USA and maybe Mazinsaga should work too.

>>14932268
>fighting ancient greek(?) chimera robots and demons and shit
Mazinger's nearly a fantasy series.

>>14932293
>Mazinger USA

The real question then would be if you would make Mazinger an SS sized unit or the warrior women M sized.

>>14932307
wot

>>14932311
In Mazinger USA, Mazinger wrecks shit on Earth (or whatever planet it was) but then is MAGICALLY WHISKED AWAY INTO ANOTHER WORLD.
In this new world, Mazinger is the size of the regular inhabitants and joins forces with a bunch of big breasted (keep in mind that the pilot is itty-bitty now, so their already relatively large breasts are fucking massive to him) warrior women to fight off evil lizard(?) people.

>>14932334
Doesn't the pilot fall in love with the princess or something

>>14932334
So SS stands for snu-snu this time? I like it.

>>14932341
Yes.

And then he is spontaneously transported back into his world, the gigantic breasts being the one mountain range he'd never be able to trek

>>14932235
Mazinger in Z3 is one of the most boring unit animation-wise so I'm a little bit surprised.

>>14932268
- Robot King Daioja
- Aura Battler Dunbine
- *God Mazinger
- Panzer World Galient
- *Madō King Granzort
- The Vision of Escaflowne
- Lord of Lords Ryu Knight
- *Magic Knight Rayearth (season 2)
- *Gosei-Ken Dai-Sword
- *Xenogears
- Turn A Gundam
- Zoids Genesis
- *White Knight Chronicles (post script)
- *White Knight Chronicles 2
- *Break Blade (Manga ver.)

Don't mind me just posting a list I've been working out the plot to that fits these criteria. They're not all entirely fantasy, I know, but I was going more for the world and things that would fit into a magical, fantastic Not-DnD world.

>>14932361
Does Scrapped Princess have mecha?

>>14932366
Not that anon, but yes. Mozaika can also be tossed in.

>>14932366
I haven't actually watched it. It's been on my list for god knows how long though and if >>14932372 is any indication I might need to bump it up a little.

>>14932287
The first DW Gundam's gameplay was such an awful pile of shit and the decent-enough crossover moments given the miniscule cast size don't nearly make up for it. But you do have a point. Jerid training under Master Asia was pretty cool.

>>14932352
Seriously, the Z2 version had some issues but Z3 was a total downgrade in almost every way (then again, this applies to most units).

>>14932350
That is the saddest story I've heard all day.

>>14932422
On the plus side, if they ever wanted to use it in SRW, I'm sure Go would come up with some more material for it.

>>14932405
Given the only bit of animation we've seen of Z in V so far, I hope it got touched up a bit. Normally I don't find much fault even in Z3 animations, but that close-up of Mazinger before the Iron Cutter looked...chunky? Stubby? Something about those proportions was a bit off.

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I've been able to piece together some of what songs will be which, by narrowing out the obvious ones and figuring out what series theme songs will be next to each other. But because a) I haven't seen like half of these Tokus, and b) the only list I've found online that could possibly tell me which track is which doesn't line up with the 68 tracks from the rip. It's going to take a while.

>>14932439
The torso and arms are too round and big but the head is the same as before.

>>14932439
Now that you remind me; did they confirm if we're getting a squad system in V? I don't remember anything in the previews looking like an ALL, and the new hud doesn't tell you anything about the attacks.

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>Its a stage where you have to stop an uncontrollable NPC from suiciding on the boss.

>>14932467
No, but Z3-1 didn't reveal squads until PV2, and we haven't had PV2. It's still theoretically possible.

>I don't remember anything in the previews looking like an ALL

Yamato's physical explosive shells.

>>14932467
High mega launcher, fin funnel and beam magnum all got changed into a single attack.

I didn't know if that means ALL attack has different animation when attacking a single enemy or they removed Z3's tag system.

>>14932439
I'm not getting my hopes up in the animation department, the preview had Shin Getter dropping the Tomhawk Lance, and it just vanishes instead of landing on the ground.

>>14932470
Why is a guy named Mario piloting a Slavic witch who lives in a chicken-legged house?

>>14932473
>Yamato's physical explosive shell

Not really, battleships always miss a shot or two in recent games.

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>>14932480
OG villains don't got to explain anything. What I do know is that the MC finally got her upgrade but unfortunately part of the hype is gone since something broke my midi playback.

>>14932487
A shot or two, not fucking five or six and only one hits the enemy. Not usually, at least.

Also maybe Crossbone's attack.

Of course, there's also the rational explanation that Z3 had attacks with differences between hitting multiple targets and only hitting one target, and we've only seen the one target versions.

>>14931943

5 gets ya 10 we get Mazinger ZERO vs. Beserk Eva Unit-01.


And Shin Getter is the one to calm them down.

>>14932441
Oooh, nice.

The one sandwiched between Shaider OP and his Laser Blade should be 'Annie ni Omakase', I think. Also, why there is a diference in track numbers? The first one is zero?

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>>14932492
The real reason why you want to go for Sirbine + Silky. A fub'ed Sirbine sells for 545k, Wings of Rean (SP Regen Part) and a W-Up Unit.

>>14931978
A shame Wing isn't.
That way it could have a Zero System and be hopped up on Getter Rays at the same time

>>14931974
I think it will be an original plot revolving around Emperor. There's no way their donut steel won't hog the spotlight.

So, what if they give Black Selena a combo with Nadesico C and Y-Unit in which it grabs and daul wields them like revolves and starts blasting people with battleship-kata Phase Transition Cannons?

>>14932540
>in which it grabs and daul wields them like revolves
There might be some scale issues here

>>14932540
>Black Selena a combo with Nadesico C and Y-Unit in which it grabs and daul wields them like revolves

I mean, the fact that Black Selena is like ten meters tall and both battleships are like 500 meters long would be a bit of a hassle.

>>14932542
>>14932546
On top of the Black Selena basically having no hands unless it purges the actual Black Selena armor and ditches the handguns.

Speaking of Mazinger USA, anyone happen to have a download link?

Because I don't have it for some reason and can't seem to find it.

>>14932555
It can ditch the handguns without ditching the armor. It did so at the end of the movie, to anticlimactically end the last fight in one punch. (The armor then fully popped off after the attack so we could end with AESTIVALIS CRIES TEARS OF OIL)

>>14932514
Compare the image you posted for me to the image I posted just now
Example:
Vortex's Theme
Your version: 23
My version: 19 (starts at 2, so 2 is track 1 and 20 is track 19)
Also, Rider Kick is track 6 in your version, 43/44 is mine.

>>14932562
Fuck you, the end to that last fight was one of the few good things about PoD

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>>14932540
Someone has Ryvuis on the mind.

>>14932093
>>14932101
>Lucifer & Biscuit Hammer and Kipen both in one thread

Good taste /m/

What if the rest of Aestivalis besides Ryoko are summons?

>>14932570
It started good, then the Angels and that one asshole showed up and half the important shit happened offscreen while Akito ended it in literally one fucking punch.

And Ruri didn't even let us see the C in battle then because she just popped onto the surface and won.

You can't really say it was much of anything, it just fucking ended before it could get to be something big.

>>14932582
Less slots to waste and less on the bench, But I'd still rather have them even if I won't use them.

>>14932582
There goes almost all of the playable Nadesico cast then.

>>14932582
>Aestivalis

I bench all of them anyway who cares lol

>>14932582
Good.
They are always mediocre on their own and due to PoD's plot, Hikaru and Izumi end up joining much later than they should, and their only gimmick are some mildly spammable combos (in the sense that you can do it again next turn, you'd get more mileage out of resupplying a super with Awaken in terms of readily available damage).

At least we'd go from 3 mediocre units that can do 1 or 2 good attacks when next to eachother to a single one that doesn't waste deployment slots as hard.

>>14932582
I bench all Aesties that aren't Akito's or Gai's, so no loss there. And being attacks should give whatever would have them a nice power boost, so that's another plus.

>>14932582
I mean, to be fair, you're getting them pretty fucking late in the game outside of Ryoko and maybe Saboruta, and LITERALLY NO ONE LIKES MOVIE SABORUTA so fuck him. It could happen. Ryoko would get good attacks out of the deal too.

I just want the Astromeria. THAT was the best scene in PoD, the one where all the Nergal employees spend like a minute trolling the invading army (including Akatsuki!) and then the Astromeria just pops in and completely fucking kills everything forever.

>>14932601
Yeah, they're only useful if you're, by some ungodly reason, playing MXP without the HP patch.

>>14932592
They only let us use Unicorn and Banshee in BX. They can do it again.

>>14932613
>They only let us use Unicorn and Banshee in BX. They can do it again.

What are the Delta Plus, Ksha, Garanceries and Nahel Argama?

>>14932613
>by some ungodly reason, playing MXP without the HP patch.
Even then, the Dragonars heavily outclass them in everything but tanking (except for Dragonar 1, which does outtank them)

>>14932622
And Dragonar-1 gains Twin Laser Sword anyway. So you don't have to worry about energy.

>>14932637
Yeah but TLS isn't until like the last 10 stages of MX.

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Don't forgot to repurchase it when you're done getting the parts.

Man, I wonder what it must have been like to be on the internet when D's first PV came up... and CCA Char in the Sazabi was support attacking for Amuro in the Nu.

>>14932742
I'm not sure but Amuro sure was the animus of Char's comradeship.

I'm playing BX and the next stage is a forced deploy by Raijin-Oh and that dragon (name slips my mind).

I need to know the name of the enemy from that show so I can pick the right tactician. I am looking at the list and it's either the Marder Army or Jaaku Beast.

Which one is the Raijin-Oh bad guys?

>>14932758
Jaaku

Marder is Galient

>>14931923
Z3 would be better if Advent was more like Zamasu.

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>>14932758
Jaaku beast

>>14932764
In what way?

>>14932758
>that dragon

Bakuryu Dragon, transforms into Bakuryu-Oh, totally distinct from the blue component dragon from Tobikage in the game prior named Bakuryu.


Raijin-Oh's enemies are the Jaaku Empire.

>>14932764
That .... okay that would be pretty great.

>>14932778
I am going to go ahead and assume its the whole "NINGEN REEEEEEEE" thing he had going.

>>14932764
Aren't the other Angels basically like that?

>>14932778
It'd be Ryusei's voice insteaqd of Archer's

>>14932811
kek

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>>14932811
Nice.

>>14932811
He's a good fit for Fagvent though. He can do homo voice better than Suwabe.

Since the last PV is usually meant to hype the game the most, what would V need to show to really get you hyped up for the release?

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No, seriously, someone explain this to me.

I opened an image in this thread and it became my skype home page.

It's been like this for a day now.

>>14932843
Astromeria.
Black Might Gaine. Maybe Kouchou?
GMG/Gouryu combo.
Something with the Lapis Lazuli after its complete non-playability in past games
Vivian
GREAT FINAL DYNAMIC SPECIAL
Subspace Submarine
Some more of that God Eva
Shin Liger or Shin Poseidon as fully usable units.
Any MSVs in general.

That's the big ones, the things I either really want or don't particularly expect but would fucking love.

>>14932843
-Final Dynamic Special
-Combination attack between X1 and F91
-Any other combo attacks, besides the obvious Aesti formation attack, since Z series lacked them
-MSV since half of the cast is filled with Gundams already
-Aestivalis Gai (This will never happen though)
-Laevatein getting animated by Belial guy
-Huck/Grungust getting exclusive upgrade for V
-Mazinger getting any other BGM besides Sugoshin or Kanjite Knight

>>14932865
>Huck/Grungust getting exclusive upgrade for V

Na, they come in the midgame and technically already have those in canon (the Huckebein EX and the Grungust Kai.). Confirmation of Black Hole or Grungust Zan would be great, assuming V PV2 has a BGM version.

>>14932863
>>14932865
I wish the eventual Final Dynamic Special includes Shin Dragon too.

>>14932875
I'm not entirely expecting Super Final God-ynamic Special to have Shin Dragon, but hey, who knows?

>>14932843
>Since the last PV is usually meant to hype the game the most
It is?

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>February release

Can't wait for Singlish in March

>>14932908
Maybe it'll have decent English because actual Gundams are involved now.

>>14932848
It's the power of love, old man.

>>14932903
Look at most games that have more than one PV, the second is typically longer and includes more crazy things. V sort of throws this out of whack by having a lot of big things in the PV1 (the OG reveal, the Jam Project theme, the special units), but it's also a lot closer than most PV1s are to their game release so that was probably intentional. Plus they had the teaser PV.


Oh, to add to my list of things that would be great for PV2 - come on, let's get some CG going!

When will OG ditch the generic yellow-blue pilot suits that most Federation pilots have?

Also, when will we get casual clothes back while the characters are on Earth? Something like Kyousuke and Excellen back in the first few stages of PSX Original Generations 1.

>>14932843
Zero/Emperor G/Zeus triple rocket punch

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>>14932938
When Zuvorg take over Earth Feddie

We will be seeing Zuvork uniform instead

>>14932938
*generic pilot suit most members of the Steel Dragon Battle Group wear
*PS2 OG 1
I can't believe I messed up this bad.

Oh god. I'm getting in too deep.
I kind of want to write my own SRW game type thing in fanfic form

>>14932764
Does that means Hibiki is Trunks ?

>>14932958
Give in to the feeling, anon. It keeps the creative juices flowing and it's fun. Plus if you wanted to learn SRC you could make it a reality.

>>14932958
I tried reading some "SRW games in writing form" fanfics but they really don't do anything for me, I find.

Something about actually being to just bash things in gameplay makes the story more palatable even if it's not good.

>>14932958
Eh, no-one's stopping you.

>>14932958
Let it flow, anon. Allow your creativity to be expressed. Maybe no one will care, or maybe they'll hate it - but that shouldn't stop you from being yourself. (unless you're a horrible murderer or something, then please stop)

>>14932975
It kind of doesn't help that most of the current existing ones fucking suck.

>>14932958
Hey, that's not so bad, and you might be able to create one that's entertaining if you try hard enough!

Besides, you're not in too deep until you start making SRW porn like some oddballs.

>>14932843
Getter emperor

>>14932241
That's a really awesome idea, didn't they do that with Votoms in Z? Although I guess that's just Chirico so it's not the same.

>>14932946
I'd be glad if they ditched pilot suits for the next game, most of the OG suits are ugly as shit, the only one's I like are Irm's and Katina's

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>>14932946
Only the Alphas wear that one, dude.

>>14932988
>most of the current existing ones fucking suck.

Writing a SRW is much, much harder than it looks.

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>>14930554
At least it's as easy as I remember for the most part, at least for mecha.

Also a pretty meh starting roll.

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Jouji Nakata thread.

Post only the rarest and most exquisite Joujis.

I'll begin with one that should be in every collection just to help out the beginners.

>>14933095
SRWs are fairly easy to write in the moment, as the characters are usually well defined enough that their actions are easy to decide and the lines drawn are good enough that its easy to provide sympathy and reasons to care. This can go awry (Mist Rex), but on a paragraph by paragraph level its relatively easy.
SRW games are fucking MONSTERS to plan and outline. This is where the hard part is; slotting the stories into each other, providing exposition and world building without overloading the reader, providing stakes and sympathy quick and effective enough that the reader is prepared for a longer story, and generally figuring out how to plot an epic with multiple storylines that are their own series and a cast that often includes 100+ named characters.

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>>14933100
YOROKOBE SHOUNEN

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>>14933100
No

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>>14933095
It is, and I'll readily admit to that, as I am writing one myself and it's a difficult process.

But that doesn't change the state of things.

>>14933099
You managed to pull all members of Dangaioh in the first 10 rolls?

>>14933101
Properly balancing a cast that large is a problem even for main games in the series, which is why a lot take shortcuts with postscript, or even this no plot thing they've outright stated right from the first teaser in V. Keeping characters and series relevant not only after their individual plots are over but even during the game itself can be challenging because of the vast character limit, as you mentioned.

A lot of this, however, comes from a sense of grounded reality that you convey to the person reading/playing it. Doing so requires either extensive knowledge of the worlds your melding into one, or a willingness to abandon certain aspects that would make that impossible to slot certain series in. If the person playing it can't believe that certain series fit into a world or make sense being here, than the whole thing falls apart.

>>14933108
Actually I just edited the data for the starting choices to have Dangaioh be one of the potential options, among a rotation of other choices, from Magnum Ace to Rushbird to the SRX Team to the EVA trio.

Used to be part of an RNG game I did before the current occasional one.

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>>14933100

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>>14933100

>>14933119
The thing is, you, the person writing a fan work, can adjust the series involved to make sure everything fits.

There is one thing you have to do before committing to a story, and another thing you have to do before committing to a crossover. This goes for ALL fiction, no matter what story or crossover you are intending to do.

1: Know what your ending is. Know what your beginning is. Work inwards.

2: For crossovers, figure out the way you want everything to fit together - and if things don't fit together, rework it from the ground up or ditch things.

I am hyped for V must play an SRW game that is not Z3 to contain by hype.
What should I play, it must have most of the same cast as V.

>>14933166
Any game with Voltes V

>>14933166
Alpha 2?

>>14933149
At the same time, don't be afraid to change your beginning or your ending as the story evolves. It's better to cut work than to keep something that no longer fits with the story.

>>14933166
While not adhering to your cast requirement I suggest OE. By the time you're done V would have already been out and you would have missed the shitstorm from the translation.

>>14933166
>it must have most of the same cast as V.

I think percentage wise, that is Z3.

Would you like me to crunch numbers?

>>14933182
This is true. But the general plot should be decided on fairly early.

The end of FIRST was decided the minute I figured out the OG plot, and despite minor changes has always included [REDACTED] as the thing that will lead most heavily into the sequel.

also, related to writing SRWs:

>tfw rewatching first episode of a show after having not watched it for a while to get the stuff right for its appearance in your prologue
>the opening instantly gets you

A great feeling.

>>14933149
Do you pick your series first or come up with the OG plot first?

>>14933191
Yes, please.

I love you.
Yes, YOU!

>>14933197
Either one works as a viable method. FIRST's OG plot was come up with after the series, sort of grown out of what I wanted as an MC and her rival, and what series were on the list. And then the cast list was edited from there as I continued through development (I think by that point I was on the version just before the "modern" FIRST, the one where the cast list was set in stone.)

But earlier I was talking about a Gakusaver/Might Gaine hook where the originals were decided from the start, and with that as the central plot, you could build the rest of the list from there.

There are manifold ways to make a SRW that works. The main thing it needs is time to make everything fit together just right - and not fucking up the characters, of course.

>>14933203
Alright. Before I crunch them, note that V has 26 series, and a full 7 are new, so the most series you could theoretically have in common are 19 - though nothing has that much.

>>14933208
Cool, Thanks. I think OE or R might win.

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>>14933213
Going from oldest to newest, about to do GC, R has a handy lead at 6/16 match. Next, hilariously enough, is 1, at 3/9.

>>14933230
This thing doesn't need an upgrade.

>>14933230
I dunno if it's a good idea to point the main thruster's heat vent directly to the nape

>>14933232
Are there any OG Main Character mechs that do not get an upgrade.

>>14933238
Rushedbird

>>14933238
A and L's original doesn't get an upgrade.

Dunno if UX counts since it's pretty much just like L except you get to actually combine.

The answer is R, at 6/16. Z3-2 has the highest in terms of number (no shit!). Don't do OE, it has 6 series and by percentage similarity ties with GC of all games.

>>14933242
>Dunno if UX counts since it's pretty much just like L except you get to actually combine.

That counts. Otherwise BX wouldn't.

Does Gunleon count? It gets a very minuscule base stat boost and two attacks.

>>14933249
R it is then, Thank's Mattman.

Anyone got any R advice?

I've beaten OE, I do not wish to play that thing again.

>>14933249
> Does Gunleon count?
In Z1 no. However it does get its upgrade in Z3, so yes it counts.

As only 2 games (A,L) don't have an OG Main Character mech upgrade.

I think it's fair to say V will be giving it's OG an upgrade.

>>14933249
Gunleon counts. It's like Orphes to Odyssea situation, but maybe they don't have time to re-animate its lesser attacks for magna mode.

>>14933265
Cybuster took like two decades to get a real upgrade
Exart just gets a few extra attacks

>>14933267
Considering how neutered the Magna looks compared to the standard Gunleon I think they might've had the right idea

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>>14933100

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So, Obari got married.

I think?

>>14933312
Did he do his baritone voice there? I need to watch this.

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>>14933313
Damn, that's awesome. Wish him the best.

>Dygenguar with Kanetsugu Naoe helmet

>>14933313
his wife is gundam
https://twitter.com/ritu_is_gundam

>>14933313
Does he stand in the bedroom naked doing the Obari pose?

>>14933313
Gave me hope because an old man like him could get a 23 years old gunpla waifu.

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>>14933100

>>14933327
Posts like this are why I think this information should be kept private.

Really now, Louie, would it kill you to have some decency for once and not turn to innuendo at the drop of a hat

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>>14933339

>>14933314
Yes. This would be right time to pull out that "I will enjoy watching this" screenshot.

>>14933313
For the second time, since Atsuko Ishida was his first wife. Congrats to him though!

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>>14933100

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>>14933341

>>14933230
MUH
U
H

>>14933119
That's basically all the misteps that Z took after the first one, isn't it?
You have a massive cast, but almost all their plots are over so they're more or less here just as moral support with the writers scrambling for basically anything they can get their hands on to elongate the few plots they have. That then leads to having to fight everyone you beat in Jigoku again in Tengoku.

Then, since they weren't willing to budge on a lot of setting stuff, you end up with a second Japan in Z2, and then a second planet in Z3, both of which are used to contain a specific show's plot with a few shows' casts tacked on almost arbitrarily.

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Wow Seabook, you sure look different.

>>14933420
The difference being that we can do whatever we want in a fangame, while it's a tad different for a company with an obligation to make a profit and satisfy editors and sponsors

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>>14933095
Speaking of writing SRW games...

Fuck, 2 weeks of not working on it really killed my tempo.

I don't like working on these VN segments

>>14933427
This map looks familiar.

I think the Compact games have a similar setup for the F91 colonies?

>>14933434
Pretty much every game with F91 uses a map similar to that one, actually.

And it's always a huge fucking chore to navigate because it's xbox hueg

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>>14933433

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>>14933440
Its just a 15x15 map this time which isn't half bad.

>>14933476
Does the S Gundam come with plot, or is it just here as a bonus?

>>14933483
You get it (and Quess) if you step on a specific tile in the Nu Gundam debut stage with Amuro.

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Haman looks younger here. Also on this stage you get the Ex-S providing that you got the S Gundam and its still in your roster.

>>14933499
I believe if you unlock the Haman secret, the game's programmed to use a picture of her Char's Deleted Affair version, that could be a reason for it.

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So in GS, I went with the Kunmen Route after convincing Char with Amuro, and I got Char's Zaku after the routes joined up. Not sure if it's a glitch or what.

By the by, do you ever get Potaria back or did I just waste money on upgrading him?

Would it be possible to universally remove the kill counts for upgrades in SRC Dungeon?
I think that would greatly improve the game flow on its own.

>>14933580
It's probably possible to edit something in the documents pertaining to upgrades to turn the kill requirements to 0 or something, though I haven't really figured that out or made any attempt. I usually just stick to editing the kill counts of the units in my roster.

>>14933575
I don't think he comes back, but I'm not sure since my only proof is having an end-game save the author provided.

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>>14933100
I offer you a rare metajohji, Afendi.
One like you've never seen before.
>>14933313
Grats, I'd make some extremely stupid Angel Blade comment but I'll refrain, for now.
>>14933331
It's not so rare, Kosuke Fujishima also got married to a cosplayer that was around 25 years younger than him, though that might have been a shotgun marriage since she was preggo, who knows.

>>14933587
>I don't think he comes back, but I'm not sure since my only proof is having an end-game save the author provided.
Aw.

Also, is it normal that I'm not really getting any items at all? I'd really like to give Chirico a Booster or something, since that 3MV on the RSC is really painful.

Which OG that would make a good Green lantern ?

>>14933592
Most of your parts are from boss drops and selling units. Until then, just leave Chirico in the Marshdog because 3 movement is a death sentence for anyone without Accel.

>>14933616
Granteed

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OG when

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>>14933635
But the OG in there are absolute unsalvageable trash.
Dat Obari Gourry tho.

>>14933617
How do I actually sell a unit?
Do I have to upgrade them up to rank 5 first?

>>14933639
what is the OG like?
Never got a chance to play this game yet,was mildly excited to see Scryed and Slayers in a game

>>14933642
Clear Chapter 12. You don't have to but if you want parts, you need them to be at Rank 5 or 10. Especially in the case of Sirbine and S Gundam who net you W Up Units at 10.

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>>14933635
Shinobu a cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwePulbjLXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njX7fpWKnTQ

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>>14933647

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>>14933635
https://youtu.be/GWo8xF6yYso?t=16

I think I might have been drawing from this game's series list subconsciously.

>>14933660
Those are some awful weapon designs.

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Hurry!!!

>>14933647
You can choose between a male and female OG which are basically the same exact thing plot wise, male OG has a neat gunspear while the female OG has some kind of gunblade which is strikingly similar to Neige's gunblade from EF for some unspecified reason. Male OG is more power and momentum based in his animations while Female OG is faster and more acrobatic, both have hella generic finishers but they're animated well overall.
The OG baddies are pretty much garbage, with the brown female, I think her name was Abdolio, being a bit lewd, one knight dude with a pretty neat magic power armor and the big baddie being kind of a more assholish Vindel with an edgy scythe wileding monster final form.
Needless to say that you should play it for the crossover cast, which is handled surprisingly well except for series like Orphen and Read or Die which are basically cast only, the overall crossover plot is more focused on MaiHime, Slayers, MAhou Senshi Louie and S-Cryed with Keroro Gunsou and Darker Than Black characters appearing once in a while, also somethingsomething Blood+.

Gameplay wise is a poor man's Valkyrie Profile, but it's nothing too offensive and there will be times when you'll be required to pay attention to what you're doing, there's also some pretty neat mechanics like being able to delevel and redistribute any stat points however you like on characters and some characters like Kazuma or Lina being able to switch between forms for finishers, And you can play as fucking Straight Cougar who doesn't die here which is awesome.
You also have a double serving of Midorikawa, which is fine too.

>>14933669
>except for series like... Read or Die which are basically cast only
Awkward.

>>14933669
I also forgot to mention, the game has an extra UMD where you can arrange battles however you like, kinda like Z1, not sure how much you would care for this but it's worth mentioning, you can also see some pretty shitty pieces of concept art in there.

>>14933669
>And you can play as fucking Straight Cougar
picked up

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>>14933635
Ah, yes, the other crossover Banpresto did that don't involve giant robots. That said, do these 2>>14933660 have separate default names?

With Haken and Aschen stuck in main OGS universe for now, this might put the chances of a new EF game at low, since that might the best chance for those 2 to appear again.

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>>14933683
Eiji and Shinobu, iirc. Voiced by Yoshimasa Hosoya and Yoko Hikasa repsectively.

Shinobu's voiced by Katia and Eiji's voiced by pic related, if you're not good with names.

>>14933660
The grill's weapon kinda gives me Ar Tonelico 2 flashbacks

>>14933672
Yeah it kinda sucks.
Good thing is that Yomiko and Orphen are top tier combo builders, so that's that, I don't think anyone but maybe Jin, Keroro and Louie builds up combos like Orphen though, he's hella broken at max levels, just don't use him for finishers or damage and he's someone you'd want around 24/7.

I'm pretty mad that Lina kinda sucks though, she has a really neat Giga Slave animation but due to her garbage accuracy pretty much anyone who's a heavy hitter outdamages here 90% of the time due to Giga Slave doing chip damage, Kazuma is a fucking rapetrain once you unlock his Shell Bullet Burst form.

Then again, mostly everyone in the game is decent, except Chinese Batman who fucking sucks for some reason and anyone from Read or Die who isn't Yomiko.
>>14933682
You better my nigga.

>>14933692
Thanks. Yoshimasa also voiced the new Duke Fleed in the Grendizer Giga ad, so I guess if a SRW got around to adapt the manga, that is already covered.

Super Dynamic Special with ZERO, Emperor G, SKL, Giga and New Getter is going to be awesome.

>>14933709
I think there's tank threads hidden in those legs

>>14933708
Giga has been put on halt, and I think Nagai is going to reboot it.

>>14933712
*treads
fuck

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No one has any idea how on to draw that face thanks to the original

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>>14933718

>>14933722
Where is the bottom VN-like one from?

>>14933712
>tank threads
But why would/k/ be hiding in there?

>>14933722
Is he supposed to have a scar or not?

>>14933742
he get the scar (and a metal arm) after the atmospheric reentry he suffers courtesy of Zabine's faggotry

>>14933742
The scar happens during the story (he also gets a robot arm)

>>14933744
Zabine did nothing wrong.

>>14933759
>>hurr durr betray the guys I've rolling with for years for MUH ARISTOCRACY
>runs off to jupiter, where he gets tortured for being a traitor in the first place
>shitty specs allowed Tobia to steal his corefighter
>the X-1 stops his knife with the teeth and dies like a bitch
suuuure
I bet the eyepatch is fake

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>>14933718
I prefer Yas style. His Seabook remain one of my favorite UC protagonist.

And Cecily, although not the best female character in the franchise, with long hair she's certainly one of the most prettier.

>>14933763
Cecily's hair in that movie is pure sex

>>14933762
>I bet the eyepatch is fake

Don't be mean, he just wants to be a pirate.

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Afternoon, folks! Remember your options, let's kill some time together and see if the RNG is on your side or not today.

>>14933784
How about a familiar faces?

>>14933784
Tenner of Familiars, please.

>>14933787
Here you go!

機動戦士ガンダムUC (Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn)
真ゲッターロボ (原作漫画版) (Shin Getter Robo (Manga))
機動警察パトレイバー the Movie (Mobile Police Patlabor The Movie)
翠星のガルガンティア (Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet)
機動戦士ガンダム逆襲のシャア (Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack)
無敵ロボトライダーG7 (Muteki Robo Trider G7)
魔境伝説アクロバンチ (Makyou Densetsu Acrobunch)
マジンガーZ (Mazinger Z)
銀河旋風ブライガー (Galaxy Cyclone Braiger)
新ゲッターロボ (New Getter Robo)

>>14933790
Coming right up.

装甲騎兵ボトムズ ビッグバトル (Armored Trooper VOTOMs Big Battle)
完全勝利ダイテイオー (Kanzen Shouri Daiteioh)
劇場版天元突破グレンラガン 螺巌篇 (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann The Movie: The Lights in the Sky are Stars)
宇宙大帝ゴッドシグマ (Uchuu Taitei God Sigma)
ゾイド -ZOIDS- (Zoids)
機動戦士ガンダムAGE (Mobile Suit Gundam AGE)
機動戦士ガンダムF-91 (Mobile Suit Gundam F91)
銀河旋風ブライガー (Galaxy Cyclone Braiger)
電脳戦機バーチャロン マーズ (Cyber Troopers Virtual-On Marz)
ゾイドジェネシス (Zoids Genesis)

>>14933784
Gimme a 16, but with 10 of them being familiars.
Also no Kaiju or Toku

>>14933798
You got it.

超時空要塞マクロス (Super Dimensional Fortress Macross)
合身戦隊メカンダーロボ (Gasshin Sentai Mechander Robo)
装甲騎兵ボトムズ レッドショルダードキュメント 野望のルーツ (Armored Trooper VOTOMs Red Shoulder Document The Roots of Ambition)
トップをねらえ2! (Aim for the Top 2! Diebuster)
ベターマン (Betterman)
フルメタル・パニック! (Full Metal Panic!)
マジンカイザー 死闘!暗黒大将軍 (Mazinkaiser: Deathmatch! Ankoku Daishogun)
NG騎士ラムネ&40 (NG Knight Ramune & 40)
装甲騎兵ボトムズ ペールゼン・ファイルズ (Armored Trooper VOTOMs Pailsen Files)
マクロス30 銀河を繋ぐ歌声 (Macross 30: The Voice that Connects the Galaxy)
超時空騎団サザンクロス (Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross)
ギャラクシーエンジェル (Galaxy Angel)
キスダム -ENGAGE planet- (Kiss Dum: Engage Planet)
ガイア・ギア (Gaia Gear)
ブルーブラスター (Blue Blaster)
蒼き鋼のアルペジオ (Arpeggio of Blue Steel)

>>14933810
>Macross
>Macross 30
>Southern Cross
>Galaxy Angel

OH BOY IT'S TIME FOR SPAAAA

>Arpeggio of Blue Steel

oh...

At least the Tuatha de Danann has company though.

>>14933708
On that note, do you think they would invent a Dynamic Special for Mazinger Angels?

>>14933797
Well, I only know anything about half of these, so shit.
Maybe start with Zoids, VOTOMs and Gurren Lagann, pick up Daiteioh, then go into space with Brygar for the Gundams. F91 should fit in well enough with AGE, with the Crossbone Vanguard and the Vegans being allied. Pick up God Sigma, do the Genesis plot, and I have no fucking clue where Marz fits in.

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>>14933814
Tuatha de Dannan went to space tho

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Just what could the Gundam Killer, Amuro and Char have in common?

>>14933784
Familiars, please.

>>14933816
A Dynamic Special requires at least 2 Mazingers and 1 Getter, so I guess that lady Getter from Daikessen will do?

>>14933838
>Getter Zan
Close enough, yeah. Either that, or they'll go crazy by having Michiru, Sho and Gola/Miyuki pilot an OG Getter.

>>14933838
∀ガンダム (Turn A Gundam)
真マジンガー 衝撃! Z編 (Shin Mazinger Shougeki! Z-Hen)
完全勝利ダイテイオー (Kanzen Shouri Daiteioh)
鉄のラインバレル(原作漫画版) (Linebarrel of Iron (Manga))
ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版:序 (Evangelion 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone)
真ゲッターロボ対ネオゲッターロボ (Shin Getter Robo vs Neo Getter Robo)
ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版:破 (Evangelion 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance)
機動戦士ガンダムAGE (Mobile Suit Gundam AGE)
機動戦士ガンダム0080 ポケットの中の戦争 (Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket)
マジンカイザー (Mazinkaiser)

Personally, I'd play the heck out of this one.

Apparently Decideueye's Z Move is Manuever RaMVs done with arrows

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>>14933852
>Manuever RaMVs
>70 speed

>>14933869
https://youtu.be/mbas5IOi7rc

>>14933851
Well, if we put Turn A coming from the Linebarrels future and using AGE first generation, so it can fit with War in the Pocket, everything should be fi...

>Shin Mazinger
>Mazinkaiser

...Unit-only it is, then.

>>14933877
Cheat it and use BP Original Mazinkaiser.

>>14933876
I prefer the water Stoner Sunshine tho.

>>14933876
I was kinda hoping Decideueye did a Astral Rain, but that's still fine with me.

>>14933885
It reminded me more of the Shukutaiho

>>14933896
Wrong move m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcN-apxrvro

>>14933896
*Degeneration Cannon.

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I really wish I had someone with Exhaust for this stage. Carozzo was a nightmare to deal with even though nearly my entire squad had 5 upgrades.

Huh, I just realized that when cut ins happen in V, the portrait disappears, did that happen in Z3 or the 3ds games?

>>14933784
15 please, with extra reals.

>>14933784
20 please.
do you have the list of mecha series? I'd like to use it to brainstorm things

>>14933784
Yo.