>tfw the U.S actually elected Job Trunicht as president

WOW COOL GIANT ROBOT THREAD

>>14922875
Job Trunicht has no similarities to Trump other than the first three letters of their last name.

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>>14922875
More like Meitzer Ronah.

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>>14922875
>tfw Yang probably would've voted for Shillary and would cry about it

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>>14922875

>>14923599
>implying a drunkard would cry when they could just drink their way past anything they don't like

>>14922875
Who is Reunthal?

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>>14922875
I was thinking the same thing but really when your options are either Job Trunicht or Cornelia Windsor what difference does it make?

>>14923636
If only we had a Reinhard IRL

I'd expat the fuck out

>>14922875
Oh no anon! You know you're not allowed to dislike Trump here.

Anon please, there's literally no comparison between the two. Trunicht is the classic corrupt "in it for myself" politician who doesn't even care if democracy is what's giving him power. Even Hillary I wouldn't put at his level because this is the guy that has a literal secret police that isn't secret at all and everyone knows there's just a group of thugs that kills people that disagree with the government.

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>>14923689
>Trunicht is the classic corrupt "in it for myself" politician who doesn't even care if democracy is what's giving him power.
>there's literally no comparison between the two.

>>14923699

Well Trump isn't really a politician, so no.

>>14923712
He is now numb nuts.

When you get into politics, guess what you become? A politician.

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>it's an /m/ compares every politician they don't like to either Degwin Zabi or Job Trunicht episode

Not everything in politics is directly analogous to something in Gundam or LoGH guys.

>>14923723
Obviously you're right.

Because that's the picture of Trump we need.

Trunicht is subtle and subdued compared to Trump, who looks and acts like a he's some kind of character Sasha Baron Cohen came up with.

>spic robot cartoons
>anti-trump
coincidence?

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>>14923723
>he doesn't know

>>14923813

Looks more like trap mineva

>>14923689
Who else is Trump "in it for" besides himself?

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>>14923918
>TFW if we were only so lucky for something like this to happen to the 'Trunicht' in our reality.

>>14923599
But Yang didn't cry when Trunicht was elected, why would he cry in reality?

>>14924178
So butthurt.

Hope you're behind seven proxies.

>>14924227
>sir, you're under arrest for making an oblique statement relating to a cartoon political opportunist from an 80's anime science fiction OVA

What a time to be alive.

>>14924283
You were rilijng people up to murder Trump. If that doesn't mean you should go to jail I do not know what should.

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>>14922875
In all seriousness, though, I wonder if America's system of checks and balances is more robust than the FPA's (which was never really described besides being a generic representative democracy, IIRC). Trunicht managed to get everyone to go along with his schemes, like when the Alliance politicos voted for war and then were surprised and betrayed when Trunicht didn't (to make himself look better). Trump, on the other hand, has to deal with a Democratic minority firmly opposed to any extreme ideas, as well as significant portions of his own party who are dubiously loyal to him (at best).

Things could turn for the worst, but I'd say there's still hope for the Republic. Polite sage since I wrote a political post a lil' longer than I'd like. Have an LoGH pic, too.

>>14923772
Since fucking when is LOGH a spic show? I've never seen a single italian on the internet say they enjoyed it or anything else that doesn't have big, goofy clown mecha

OBERSTEIN 2020

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>>14924289
That weren't even me bro.

But if the FBI were to process every "omg son of a bitch must die" tweet and text as reasonable intent, you'd have a lot of NEETs in prison.

All of this being /m/ related of course.

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I'm gonna say it again: If anyone in /m/ is Donald, it's Meitzer Ronah.

>>14924312
If that's the case then Pence is Iron Mask

>>14923689
>Trunicht is the classic corrupt "in it for myself" politician who doesn't even care if democracy is what's giving him power
As opposed to Trump being for... who again?

The American people? The whiteys? That's what they all say during election campaigns. Once in, they mellow down and the outsider becomes the insider.

Hillary is Job everything they've done and will do match up, Trump is more Reinhard and Oberstein, he's a dick and knows how corrupt the system is and wants to change it

>>14923905
America, obviously

>>14923830
that Garma you faggot

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DON'T VOTE LECOQUE
I'M A DELOYERAN
SON OF A BITCH EARTHLING
EARTHLING IS PIG
DO YOU WANT CHEAP FOOD?
DO YOU WANT COLONIES?
EARTHLING IS PIG DISGUSTING
HELMUT J. LECOQUE IS A MURDERER
FUCKING FEDERATION COUNCIL

>>14924564
DELOYERANS ARE TERRORISTS
DEPORT DELOYERANS BACK TO DELOYER

>>14923636

>Cornelia went to war because elections were incoming
>Job Trunicht is Job Trunicht

Horrifyingly accurate parody of this years election.

Now excuse me as I prepare for my planet to be attacked by the Goldenbaum dynasty.

>>14924294

At that time, Trunicht was minister of defense or something like that I think. His vote wasn't very important.

>>14924301
>italian
>spic

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>>14923599
>Corporate mughal is president of USA after memed on the interwebz

Can it get more cyberpunk than this at this point?

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>>14922875
>implying he didn't want Trump to win.

>>14925043
Everything needs to become more a e s t h e t i c.

>>14925096
If he is Reagan of our generation, it will happen soon.

Yes, I understand. It sucks to lose an election. It's no fun. You don't have to be so salty. It's not the end of world. Most people know he's not going to keep his promises. He only won because he was the only way a group of poor people could give the middle finger to the system.

If you want to win next time, try reach out to the people who voted because they were hurting, not to the people who didn't vote because they didn't care or hated both.

>>14923813
Principality of Trump. SIEG TRUMP SIEG TRUMP SIEG TRUMP

>>14924803
spotted the butthurt spic

>>14923830
Would you fuck Trap Mineva?

>>14924294
>>14924666

The book makes it very clear that Trunicht knew the invasion would fail, and that by voting against it, he could claim "See, I knew all along, that's why I didn't vote for it" and pretty much instantly get the election by showing he had the foresight.

For relevance, it's what basically won Obama the nomination in 2008. He voted against the Iraq War, and used that as his platform against Hillary who did vote for it.

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>>14925043

We don't talk with wierd pointless slang with inexplicably cockeney accents yet.

>>14925163
I just don't get these people. It used to not be this way. When Kerry lost in 2004, the collective reaction among my fellow democrats was "well that sucks...what should I have for dinner tomorrow?" We just used to take it in stride better, and I don't know why that's different now. I mean, presidents aren't Hitler, they're out in 4 or 8 years regardless of their decisions. And even if they ARE Hitler, someone can always just shoot them and that solves the problem. I just don't get why people are so worked up.

>>14925784
Bitch I've been using schway since I learned it from Batman Beyond

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>>14925795
People are exceptionally worried about Trump because he's so different from just about any president in decades. As much as Dems disliked Bush, at least Bush was someone they were familiar with--an establishment politician. Trump, on the other hand, has no government or military experience and based his whole campaign on flipping off the establishment. A lot of people fear he may be crazier than any leader America has had before.

But for myself, I think you may be right. As I've mentioned before, Trump already seems to be softening his positions, and it seems likely we'll get another humdrum "establishment" president for the next few years. He may be Bush 3.0, which is tiresome (few consider Bush to be a great president), but if he doesn't bring jobs back and/or reneges on his promises, he'll be a one-term president, which should be fine. America will survive.

(polite sage and another LoGH pic, hehe).

>>14925815
most of his lukewarm supporters have low expectations of him as is, and more than a few are more anti hillary than pro trump

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Would Jeb! be Landsberg?

>>14925815
lol, you are literally taking it seriously. people only voted for him as a joke.
stay salty

>>14925871
Maybe so. Anyone got that screencap of Poplan saying, "If there were no jokes, I'd rather not live?"

>>14923659

we had one, but it was killed in WW2

Hillary and Job are one in the same
>Corrupt
>Has a third party backing
>Has a high government position
>Has more skeletons in closets
>Avoided karma multiple times until the end
>Military and investigators don't like them
>part of a secret organization

>>14925795
People are worked up because Trump's an asshole with no moral compass and conviction. Nothing hard to understand.

I actually prefer people like Hitler to him. Hitler may have been a monster, but he at least fought for what he believed in. Trump's presidential bid was all about taking revenge on people who trash talked him. He had no position on anything until quite recently. People say "it's just words, he's not going to do any of his shit", but that's the problem; he's not going to do the terrible things he promised, not because of the costs involved, but because he just changes his mind like he changes pants. This speaks very poorly of a man's character.

The fact that he's acting like an angel towards Obama now makes me even wearier of him. He's a guy who will be exactly what you want him to be for the moment. This makes him more dangerous than the average republican.

>>14926011

But he still won, legitimately. He didn't cheat the election, he didn't win by getting his opponent assassinated, he won by election. And if that pisses off people enough to take to the streets, destroy property, and say "not my president", then why even bother with a democratic system?

>>14925081

I doubt Yang would agree with the Electoral college

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>>14923905
His is driven by his ridiculous ego, but that's a good thing. He wants to be remembered as the best president there ever was and little else now so his goals coincide with what;s good for the country

>>14926011
>talks to Obama
>doesn't want to defund Obamacare now
>will go home and talk to Paul Ryan on the phone
>DEFUND OBAMACARE IMMEDIATELY tomorrow
oh boy oh boy oh boy, we've finally got a lobotomized Ditto for President

>>14926028
hey give the Trumpster a break , he's a neo con figure head now

>>14926025
It's so that states that aren't Florida/Texas/New York/Californiahave a voice. It really isn't fair that they have so much population that they would control the path of the country in voting without consideration for everyone else.

For comparison, we should look at California itself. Northern Cali and Southern Cali are VERY different places (it's why the whole NorCal/SoCal rivalry exists), and there are various rural places that are even more different still. But SoCal's population is so vast that in elections it basically takes the rest of the state along for the ride. If everything was just popular vote, it would essentially be that nationwide.

>>14926043
>tyranny of the majority sucks, guys
>how can we fix it?
>what about... tyranny of the minority?
>excellent, let's do it
It's not about giving a "voice" to podunk states or letting them determine the course of the country, it's about ensuring that every four years someone comes around and pays the briefest amount of attention to them, throws some money and vague promises their way, and then proceeds to ignore them until the next election cycle. We could do away with the EC and get the same result because all it takes to pander to the fly-over fuckers is, "I won't take your guns, Jesus is cool, here's some corn and coal subsidies." Every fucking time. We don't actually run the country on that shit.

>>14926026
Does it rain gumdrops or Hershey's kisses in your reality, my sweet summer child?

>>14926060

It's not tyranny of the minority either, it's just ensuring that everyone gets some kind of voice. It's also why every state gets 2 senators whether 30 million people live in your state or less than 500k.

>>14923034
>>14922875

Job is way more similar to Hillary. A say anything to get elected entrenched elite and career politician who has utter contempt for the electorate.

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>>14926011
>Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

>>14923723
Gihren was right anyway. Tomino even goes out of his way to basically prove it.

>>14926011
>I actually prefer Hitler to Trump
-democuck 2016

>>14926096
Pretty much Job has gotten people killed for his reputation and personal gain and so has Hillary. Pence is the Oberstein for Trump since he's Donald's insurance to avoid assassination because he's way worse than Trump in terms of politcal view.

>>14922875
Yang is French?

>>14926043
This. The EC ensures every state gets three electoral votes by default, with the rest determined by population.

This allows states like Alaska, Montana and New Hampshire to have a voice.

The only possible solution I could think of would be splitting electoral votes by congressional district, like Maine and Nebraska.

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>>14926232

so this why gerrymandering is a thing

>>14922875


he has more in common with the likes of Joseph Fuche and the like with foresight that led them to survive regime change

>>14922875

Don is a Quattro.

Isn't Trump more like Reinhard?

American Empire When?

ITT: Globalist faggots get salty about America's Newtype even though he's the only one in DC with an interest in colonizing space.

>>14924178

I hope Hillary suffers that fate, yes.

>>14924294

Trump has more control over the government right now than you would believe. He won by what ended up as a landslide (although the media stopped counting the second he took PA so it would look closer), with a red House, red Senate, red majority of Governorships, and soon a red Supreme Court. Oh, and virtually every civilian who privately owns firearms, he has them too.

Trump has given it all to them and BECAUSE of their initial treachery and resistance they are all trying to get the best spot to lick his boots from as soon as he sits down in the oval office.

So if by hope for the Republic, you mean that a bunch of sissy liberal SJWs get to cram their ideology down anyone else's throat, 'fraid not. It is a time of reckoning. If Trump wasn't such a /m/ protagonist, he'd be an /m/ villain.

>>14926300
Has Trump talked about space exploration at all?

>>14925795

Social Justice Warriors didn't exist as a social unit back then and weren't propagating the idea that anyone who disagrees with them is morally evil. Back then, people could agree that "hey, my priorities are different than yours but we're fundamentally probably both good people."

>>14925815
>softening

The media is desperately claiming this with even less evidence than they had for their claims during the election.

Don't be surprised if we end up reclaiming Jerusalem and scrubbing the minarets off Hagia Sophia before four years are up. Deus fucking vult.

>>14926028

Would this be Denial or Bargaining?

>>14926060

This kind of smug urban liberal thinking is why you stupid fuckers lost.

Stay salty. Get your boyfriend to put some cream on your ass. Maybe someday you'll grow up.

>>14926327

He's a big, yuge fan of it. But like everything else he's critical of its current implementation.

>>14926060
>fly-over fuckers

Those "fly-over fuckers" just destroyed you in an election.

>>14926060
>we don't run the country on food and energy

No, clearly we run it off hipster protests and "colorful diverse community organizing" you brain-dead twat.

>>14926060
cry more loser

>>14926096

This. He's a snake that just moved from position to position to maintain power.

>>14926246

No gerrymandering is specifically for your own office, it's irrelevant in large elections because every district is voted in.

>>14926333
>Don't be surprised if we end up reclaiming Jerusalem

Israel already controls Jerusalem, we don't need to reclaim it.

>and scrubbing the minarets off Hagia Sophia before four years are up

Well first off, even with its shitty situation Turkey is on our side. Secondly, I only accept this if we rename the city Constantinople.

>>14926367
Not him but we should have moved from coal to nuclear long ago.

>>14926429
Liberal greenies did a good job of ensuring we didn't.

>>14926431
oil companies manipulating them, but yeah hippies ruin everything as usual
Fukushima was two of nature's biggest, blackest cocks shoved into the reactor's anus at once on the oldest operating plant and it still wasn't that bad

>>14926431

No Three Mile Island followed by Chernobyl ensured we didn't. Carter was a democrat to his core but he also had a degree in nuclear engineering which is why he pushed for it more than any other president, he understood the risks vs benefits more than the average joe.

Then TMI happened, which quite frankly freaked people out more than it should've. Yes it released superheated water into the nearby river which killed all the fish but that's reversible, water cools down and rivers naturally repopulate. Plus we scrubbed that plant clean in no time and more importantly, put in place stronger regulations to make sure it didn't happen again. Nuclear power is the one field where there MUST be strong government safety regulations because if something goes wrong it literally poisons the earth. Chernobyl however was different, it was a result of sheer stupidity from people doing a really bad idea entirely on purpose, and then realizing "oh shit we can't control this"

I think even with Fukushima though, people will eventually realize that we don't have many choices. Now I live in Nevada, and we get a SHITTON of power from Hoover Dam, but you need a specific natural landscale to utilize hydroelectric power like that. There just aren't too many locations where it can be done. A nuclear plant can be built anywhere.

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>>14926461
>Chernobyl however was different, it was a result of sheer stupidity from people doing a really bad idea entirely on purpose, and then realizing "oh shit we can't control this"
seriously Chernobyl was some Florida Man grade "hey I wonder what would happen if" stupidity

>>14926327
The GOP had a brief space exploration retrospective video at the convention but no one mentioned it after that, least of all Trump. The idea that he's going to do anything for it while pushing a complete federal hiring freeze (this includes NASA) is a joke.

Hillary also hasn't said anything about space, but she's at least been caught reading books about aliens and is up to date on her UFO terminology. She pressured Bill into getting all the Area 51 documents out when he first got elected.

>>14926431
>liberals are the ones holding up nuclear progress
Let's not pretend like left-leaning treehuggers are the only ones askeered of the glowing green boogeyman. Both parties are full of feckless NIMBY shitheads, and the right panders non-stop to the dying (literally and figuratively) breed that are coal miners.

We keep trying to bend over backwards to help them with re-training or getting qualified for better jobs and jobs that will actually still exist in large quantities in 20 years but they're stuck in this false mindset of "I'm just a dumb ol' hilly-boy who can't learn nothin' new". It's bullshit, I could teach your fucking grandmother to use the internet if she wasn't going to sit there the entire time whining about how she obviously can't do it because it's too new and she's too old and just doesn't want to try or pay attention. Oh, but don't you fucking dare call them dumb for being either unwilling or unable, then they'll get all indignant at you. You can't fucking win with those folks. You're just supposed to pity them and keep shoveling subsidies down their throats so they can bitch about everyone else mooching off the government while they, uh, mooch off the government.

>>14926574
Fucking this. People need to face facts that we will never get any true progress as long as we keep pointing fingers instead of realizing we're screwing ourselves as much as, and probably more so, then "the other side" is.

>>14926574
>Both parties are full of feckless NIMBY shitheads

BUILD MORE PRISONS....but not here

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>They believed that drastic treatment of humanity's collective illness was needed, and in this they were not mistaken. But when they selected their favored form of medication, the majority opted not for the kind of long-term therapy that requires endurance and perseverance--instead, they quaffed a fast-acting elixir that came with many side effects.
>This was the powerful drug called "dictatorship."
>And so the stage was set for the scent of Rudolf von Goldenbaum.

Yoshiki Tanaka was right.

>>14926882

Goldenbaum was also an Eisenhower-like war hero, not entirely the same.

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>>14926890
Fair enough, but I had to make the link somewhere.
Here's another quote I pulled up:
>In a popular democracy, the masses who elect unfit rulers are to blame for bad government, but that is not the case in a monarchy. Rather than reflecting on their own mistakes, the people are free to enjoy speaking ill of leaders who are even more irresponsible than they.

I was a Hillaryfag and even I feel guilty of that last part.

>>14925795
Kerry was an even blockier block of wood than Gore, lost the popular vote, and unseating a president during two wars was a tall order to begin with. Plus we already knew what Bush was like as president.

>>14925043
HAHAHAHAHAHA no.
https://theintercept.com/2016/11/08/trump-transition-lobbyists/

>>14926315
They have a majority in all 3 branches, but a slim one. In neither the House nor the Senate do they have the 2/3rds required to really slam out legislation. The Democrats can still use the filibuster for now.

>>14926315
It's a little disgusting seeing people like Paul Ryan basically start to fellate Trump after the election.

>>14926968
Especially when you consider he was the one who leaked the "pussy" tape.

>>14922876
LoGH is certified /m/, LoGH is balls-deep in politics, easily applicable to history and current events. Threads comparing LoGH character arcs to current events is completely fair game.

>>14923618
>Who is Reunthal?
Paul Ryan.

>>14923712
>Trump isn't really a politician
The moment you run for a political office, you're a politician.

>>14924227
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>>14926300
It's funny to see people call the anons making lighthearted comparisons between Trump and anime characters "salty" or "butthurt". Kinda shows who's really taking things too seriously. Whoever smelt it dealt it.

>>14926019
Minus the destruction of property or outright refusing to acknowledge the results, those protests serve a democratic purpose, like it or not. Citizens can use all sorts of means of expressing their discontent, whether that's electing a president solely as a "fuck you" to the establishment, or marching.

>>14926232
>Yang is French?
In real life, a bunch of flags standing for republicanism are based on the same design the Tricolour uses. It makes sense that the FPA revives it, although I was always kinda bored by how LoGH cultures just copy-paste historical styles into space.

>>14926882
Yeah, my mind always goes to Goldebaum, minus the war-hero status and the greatness. I don't expect the hero worship to persist. But if it did, not only could he establish the Trumpenbaum dynasty, society would also coat everything under a layer of tacky faux-Baroque.

But I can also kinda see the Reinhard comparisons, if only in the "death of the FPA" aspect. As a Hillaryfag, I feel like I'm in the crowd at the end of Episode 86, vowing to keep democratic-republicanism alive even as autocracy settles in.
>The population comparison with the Empire is 40 billion to 940,000, with 1/425,000 of the entire human population still upholding the flag of republican democracy.
>FIGHTING HARD FOR THE FUTURE~

>>14927279
> vowing to keep democratic-republicanism alive
With rioting and demanding people have to die?

>>14927299
Please, anon. I haven't stepped outside my house in thirty-eight days. Well, that joke doesn't really work if you assume I voted, but...

I'll keep it alive by being prepared to speak out when Trump, his administration, or his legislative followers misstep or break the bounds of the Constitution. By having the information every citizen should have, and being eager to share it and stimulate curiosity about how government should work. Maybe I could even write some letters to my local representatives, or think about forming some group related to free speech or voting reform. And of course, voting in the election two years from now, and even those smaller ones they don't tell us about.

(Unfortunately, I want to move somewhere solidly liberal, so I'll make less of a difference, but after all it's a drop in the bucket either way. And maybe it's good that I could subject social justice warriors to a free speech fag like myself.)

It sounds to me that you get off on the fact that there are a bunch of protests right now. Instead of putting things into perspective, and recognizing that tens of millions voted for Hillary while only thousands are out protesting in the streets, you just look at what's on the media and tell yourself, "yes, these are the people who disagree with me, they're emotional and unreasonable and I'm not."

Don't be like that. I love you. I respect you. And I believe you can feel the same for me. Just remember that reality is always more complex and nuanced than you think it is, no matter how much progress you make, your ability to model the world always falls short.

>>14927299
Regardless of how melodramatic that anon was being, being pro-Hillary doesn't make you a rioter.

>>14926132
No, democrats are slimy fucks as well.

>>14926019
> And if that pisses off people enough to take to the streets
They're allowed to exercise their free speech right.

>and say "not my president"
Again they're fully allowed to do this.

>destroy property
People who does that get arrested.

>then why even bother with a democratic system?
Because it allows people to vent their frustration and anger. It's a good release for many.

>>14927319
>Regardless of how melodramatic that anon was being
Who? Me? Melodramatic? Naw...

>>14927322
There's a different between exercising your right to free speech and assembly and, unannounced, suddenly try and jump into the middle of a motorway and start screaming at people in their cars.

>>14927332
Protesting is fully within your free speech rights.

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>>14922875
No, he is clearly Adrian Rubinsky except without the BALD.

>>14925815
The only problem is Dems have absolutely no one to run against him. Meanwhile if Trump dies he can be replaced with any of the 15 guys he defeated in the primary.

>>14926200
>because he's way worse than Trump in terms of politcal view.

This is what statist/progressives actually believe.

>>14926025
I'm pretty sure I remember Yang commenting on the negatives of a mobocracy, which is what the USA would be without the EC.

>>14927322
>muh rights

There is a difference between having the right to do something, and having the maturity to recognize that doing so is retarded and pointless. Without civility rights are meaningless.

>>14926327
Newt is going to be a member of the cabinet and back when he ran in the primary he promised to make a moon base.

>>14926574
Those "dying hillbillies" make $70,000 a year. Why would they want to switch? They are no dumb, they use advanced machinery that is far more complex to operate than checking your email on your macbook does. There is still a huge demand for coal in the third world, so why would we shut down our own coal industry? It would be like Saudi Arabia moving away from oil exporting when everyone still relies on it.


>>14927316
>please put things in perspective

Ironing. You do realize tens of millions of people in previous elections also lost and yet we have never had nationwide rioting like this right? This is not normal despite how much you want to pretend it is.

>>14927332
This.

>>14927341
They aren't protesting, they are rioting.

>>14927352
>Those "dying hillbillies" make $70,000 a year. Why would they want to switch? They are no dumb, they use advanced machinery that is far more complex to operate than checking your email on your macbook does.

I think the other anon was implying both they and the country would be better off with nuclear power. Nuclear techs are also well paid and if you work with machinery at least some of your skill set is transferable, and in the long run it's more sustainable than coal.

>The only problem is Dems have absolutely no one to run against him. Meanwhile if Trump dies he can be replaced with any of the 15 guys he defeated in the primary.

Well, Bernie's not dead yet and I bet he'd really love a matchup against Trump. Some polls say he could have won the Rust Belt states and the election. It'd be interesting to see how a matchup between those two might play out in 2020.

>>14927352
>No, he is clearly Adrian Rubinsky except without the BALD.
Adam Rubinsky wasn't populist.

>There is a difference between having the right to do something, and having the maturity to recognize that doing so is retarded and pointless. Without civility rights are meaningless.
You must be quite new to politics. Real change doesn't happen through civility. Dummies bend over and take it. Those are the true cucks. People should fight for their beliefs no matter which side they're on.

>They aren't protesting, they are rioting.
There are some people who riot, there many who protest.

Those who riot (cause violence), they get arrested, those who protest, they're fine because this is free speech.

>>14927352
>This is not normal despite how much you want to pretend it is.
I didn't claim it was normal, I'm saying it isn't representative of Hillary voters. (Not to mention that many of these protestors didn't even vote for anyone.)

What do you think of David Clarke's tweet about "pitchforks and torches time", and Trump's tweet about marching on Washington to "stop this travesty" after Obama's reelection in 2012? I'm not presuming that you hypocritically give a pass to those motions, but I want to make sure.

>>14927341
That's not a protest. How is causing a massive traffic jam and jumping up and down on people's cars in the middle of a busy motorway protesting anything? Why not, instead of heading into the middle of the road, organise your protest outside of, say, a state legislature or city hall, or the local republican party headquarters?

>>14927358

Bernie is old as fuck, if he was president now he would be the oldest ever elected. Not gonna happen 4 years from now. This was his last hurrah, buttlord

>>14927358
People keep saying Bernie Sanders would have been electable. I honestly cannot see it.

>>14927364
Man you are gullible.

Causing disruption is the best way to protest.

>Why not, instead of heading into the middle of the road, organise your protest outside of, say, a state legislature or city hall, or the local republican party headquarters?
Because you want to protest in a place where everyone gets the message.

You really don't get it, do you?

>>14927366
He was beating Trump with a much larger margin than Hillary in plenty of polls.

Hillary didn't have a message, that's why she was unelectable. She also had too much baggage and is an establishment insider. People are sick of those kind of people.

Bernie on the other hand was an outsider, and actually had a message, regardless of whether you agreed or disagreed.

>>14927365
People are living longer these days, maybe he'll hang on. Donald Trump is actually our oldest President-Elect, Bernie has an incentive to beat that record.

>>14927369
I do get it. Why you want to make hundreds of normal people on their way back from work annoyed at you is beyond me. It doesn't help generate sympathy for your cause and it doesn't affect the people you're protesting against. It makes everyone think you're a bunch of wankers.

>>14922876
should have ended on this post

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>>14925903

No, but I have this, which I'm pretty sure was the response to that. May whomever you use it on have enough ice for that sick burn.

i was going to wonder why there are people butthurt about trump on /m/ but then i realized that you're all spics

I keep seeing people say that Trump is like a gay ally or something, but if he was why would he pick a running mate that's so concerned about wiping them out

>>14927383
and this faggot post is related to /m/, how?

>>14927385
If that's your problem why single out this post and not the rest of the thread

>>14927391
and this faggot post is related to /m/, how?

>>14927377
Because sympathy is worthless when it comes to change.

Democrats compromised with republicans on everything instead of fighting for their cause, and look at what happened.

They moved their entire party to the center while leaving their actual progressive base behind.

>>14927400
and this faggot post is related to /m/, how?

>>14927377
>Why you want to
>your cause
>you're protesting against
>everyone thinks you're a
There you go again, talking as if that anon is one of the protestors just because he's explaining why they're protesting. Do you really want to see the world in such stubborn black-and-white terms?

>>14927385
>this faggot post is related to /m/, how?
Faggotry is inextricably bonded to /m/echa anime. But I don't have that image.

>>14927411
and this faggot post is related to /m/, how?

>>14927400
Keep alienating all those who disagree with you. It's working fantastically, don't you think? It only just got Trump elected.

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>>14927411
>Faggotry is inextricably bonded to /m/echa anime. But I don't have that image.

This one?

>>14927420
and this faggot post is related to /m/, how?

>>14927419
>Keep alienating all those who disagree with you. It's working fantastically, don't you think? It only just got Trump elected.
Correct.

Republicans didn't compromise on anything, and they won. They stuck to their core ideals and got their base excited and ready to vote.

People aren't excited about Hillary's centrist worldview, so they were deflated and didn't vote.

>>14927374
>polls

They mean nothing after Brexit and the election on Tuesday.

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>>14927369
the problem with the protests
IS THAT THEY'RE IN BLUE STATES
AS IN THEIR OWN ALLIES
THEY ARE INCONVENIENCING THEIR OWN SUPPORTERS
IT MAKES NO SENSE FROM ANY PERSPECTIVE
they're also stupid because they're protesting democracy itself and only because they lost

>>14927423
All fifty-one of the snapshots are from /m/ shows.

>>14927430
It means nothing to the outcome of the elections, but it means who has a better shot at it.

And from what I can gather, Sanders is a lot more popular than Hillary. The DNC just backed the wrong candidate. That's all.

>>14927435
Yeah. The other thing is that Hillary primarily lost the Rust Belt states (and thus the election) because blue collar workers flipped over to Trump. I've heard that Bernie's greater emphasis on the working class could have kept them Democratic, allowing him to win safely.

>>14927431
>IS THAT THEY'RE IN BLUE STATES
No they're not 100% blue states. This is a narrow worldview. Red people also live in those states.

>IT MAKES NO SENSE FROM ANY PERSPECTIVE
It makes every sense to protest a decision you don't like. If they just sat on their ass and just contemplate on the results, this will assure their defeat in the upcoming elections as well.

Passion brings people to the voting booths. Deflation doesn't

>they're also stupid because they're protesting democracy itself and only because they lost
People are protesting Trump and the democratic party who fucked them up. It's really no surprise when you see that both candidates had negative favorability ratings.

These protests were bound to happen.

>>14927431
>THEY'RE IN BLUE STATES
There's a protest in Iowa City.

>>14927451
Keep this up and you won't be free of Trump until 2024.

>>14927456
I'm only explaining to you how the world runs.

>Keep this up
The left is bound to lose if they don't protest, so might as well protest.

This is simple logic. People vote when they're excited and passionate. Republicans won because their base was passionate about Trump. It's as simple as that.

>>14927451
Hillary conceded
what makes this loss so much different than any other loss in history that should mandate it's people to revolt to the degree of "If you're not with us you're Hitler" ?

>>14927460
>The left is bound to lose if they don't protest, so might as well protest.

The current left and people that will be over 18 in 2020 will lose again because they will get bored after a few days and start complaining about not having enough Starbucks or tv shows.

>>14927463

Because of national perceptions of Trump on the part of Democratic supporters, and generally because of this being one of the ugliest election races in recent US history.

Also people pissed off that they didn't get a woman as President while gleefully turning a blind eye to the flaws both Clintons possess.

>>14926096
>and career politician who has utter contempt for the electorate.

That was that Mormon Rep who was up against Obama though.

>>14927467
He wasn't the Mormons' puppet, the Mormons were his puppet!

>>14927470
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb~

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>>14926011
Trump fights to make the memes real.

>>14927464
If they get bored and don't do anything, then yes they will lose.

>>14927279
>Reunthal
>Paul Ryan
Yeah, no.
Reunthal has far too much pride.
I admittedly can't think of a Politician that'd be Reunthal.

>>14927466
Trump brought this media bias against him himself.

He doesn't have my sympathy there.

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where do the peaceful penguins go now that trump is president?

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The truth is regardless of who you vote for or which figure you like more nothing is ever really going to change the president matters far less than people seem to think.

This election was more or less a repeat of the Obama election back in 2008 it was the people electing the 'political outsider' from the party opposite the one currently in power over the establishment figure with experience from the current party. People had hope Obama was going to change the broken system after the Bush years, he was a one term senator most people never heard of prior to the primary who suddenly beat Hillary the expected nominee with the message that the system needed change. He was going to close Guantanamo, he was going to prosecute all those human rights violations and hold accountable the highest offices in the country, he was going to end the NSA's warrantless surveillance and arbitrary monitoring of the public it backfired and instead of prosecution he expanded those programs greatly because once in power he too was incapable of fixing anything. Trump echos that fantasy, he's the TV celebrity that's going to get in there and tell all those corrupt politicians you're fired and he's going to restructure the government to work like a well oiled machine because he's a successful businessman and he's going to make America run like a successful business by firing all the dead weight and cutting all the bloated bureaucracy, it will end the same as it did last time.

In reality there is never going to be that magical candidate that can fix the system for us. The only way to make a change like that is from the ground up rather than from the top down. The fantasy is we can just elect a great leader and they're going to fix everything regardless of the realities of the greater system around them. The same checks and balances that prevent them from being a tyrant also prevent them from truly making any lasting change to the system by themselves.

pic related

>>14927455
>Iowa City
I consider myself an educated American with a good grasp of both local and world geography, and I've never heard of Iowa City.
>population <70,000
eugh

>>14927374
>person who doesn't run and isn't attacked is winning in polls
Theoreticals can get fucked.
The real problem with Hillary is she's been the subject of a right-wing hit job for decades, starting with the founding of Drudge Report as a primo anti-Clinton (chiefly Bill, but also her) news outlet way back when. You would not believe the amount of propaganda that's been swirling around so long we've just accepted it as fact.

Bernie also wasn't attacked on any of his real weakpoints. He and Hillary had a very civil campaign, all things considered. There are a slew of points and contentious decisions he made that could have been dredged up to make him quite unpalatable to the electorate.

>>14927430
This "polls failed Brexit" meme needs to die. There were plenty of polls that showed Leave winning, and others that had them too close to say. Everything was within the margin of error anyway. People who think the vast majority of polling was showing a Remain victory are being wilfully ignorant.

>>14927642
I don't know the kind of weak points that Sanders had that was as bad as Hillary's.

Trump won because he's the outsider and anti-establishment candidate. Trump wouldn't be able to use his anti establishment card against Bernie. And let's not even forget the emails and that showed how corrupt her party and herself was. At best you can call Bernie a socialist, but the word is only dirty among the older generations.

>>14927660
Bringing up taxes would've ended Bernie's run.

>>14927670
Bringing up taxes is the main democratic schtick you fool.

If you like taxes, you are a democrat.

These threads are getting annoying. Trump is neither the second coming of Hitler or Jesus. He is just a man. He isn't a perfect leader who will fix everything with this country, but at the same token, he isn't a reprobate who will abuse his powers for maximum benefit. He is using a dutch auction approach, that is to say you start at a big and unobtainable goal and then have the opposition get you to work your way down to a more reasonable one. Stop panicking over this.

As for the comparison. The Don and Job are different. Even if you are fervently anti-Trump, at that point the only similarity would be that they seek power merely to have it. While by comparison she is more like him, Hilary is still different in terms of her approach and how she gets power.
If you are going to compare Trump to a villain, compare him to Rudolph the Great. They were both originally political outsiders (granted, Rudolph was part of the military before) who campaigned on the premise that the government and society were turning to shit. Rudolph talked a lot about how society was in decline and his country needed a change of leadership. I'll admit, Trump doesn't seem like he would go so far as to make an empire and create eugenics laws, but it is a better comparison.

>>14927660
>Trump wouldn't be able to use his anti establishment card against Bernie.
He might've been able to a little bit, since Bernie has been a Senator for a number of years. Trump has zero government experience.

>>14927793
Basically. It's actually mentioned in Trump's book, "Art of the Deal", that you start at an extreme position and negotiate to a middle ground from there.

>>14927912
The Art of the Deal wasn't even written by Trump. Even the guy who wrote it regrets what he's done.

>>14927660
The emails didn't really prove anything, people just latched onto anything someone stupidly said thinking no one would see it as proof that there was corruption and not just people saying stupid shit behind closed doors.

The real value of the email nonsense was that, while it cannot be assumed that the government standard email solution would be totally impervious to outside cyberattack, the use of a private server presents potential issues for outside agents to gain access to government information by existing outside the government standard security protocol.

Then again, if kept off the grid and not made public knowledge, theoretically a private server shouldn't have as large a target painted on it as the government standard.

Really it's a complex issue and the matter of "BUT THE DELETED EMAILS" is really just a distraction from the more critical issue of how an outside entity could find their way into state secrets. The cyber infrastructure of the US is kinda dildos as is.

Though to be fair just finding a disgruntled worker who used the server and had their share of email copies to dump onto Wikileaks gets the job done just as well.

tl/dr: everyone getting played like a damn fiddle and Comey's the one stuck with picking up the pieces.

Kinda hilarious how /m/ is butthurt at Trump.

Seems like my take that this is a lefty board is true after all.

>>14927947
the ones who aren't butthurt don't bother to complain or bring it up

>>14927947
Most people are probably under 18

so yea

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>>14927947
Well, yeah? Trump hates mecha and has said he wants to stop mecha fans from coming into the US.

>>14927979
Trump is promising more tanks, more ships and even spacecrafts compared to Obongo.
>has said he wants to stop mecha fans from coming into the US.
Mecha fans can stay in their own countries to pirate jap cartoons.

>>14927985
without TPP looming over us stealing chinese toy commercials will stay easymode

>>14927990
Time to thank the Trumpenkaiser then.

He hasn't in office yet and he's already BTFO the TPP.

>>14927985
OK so maybe you haven't paid attention to the last EVERY CONGRESS FOR I DON'T REMEMBER HOW LONG but Congress has a hate boner for spending money on acquiring new weapons technologies when we aren't at war with parties more advanced than Haji insurgents.

Fuckers are bitching about the per unit cost of the Zumwalts even though it's their fault we've got only one of them.

>>14927660
>Trump won because he's the outsider and anti-establishment candidate.
Oh yeah, a real estate businessman and media personality is truly the outsider and anti-establishment candidate America needed to break free from the oppressive rule of Wall Street and the elite.

Let's say that he just sold this kool-aid well enough to convince the dumbest part of America and then grab the attention of extremist groups and people who just want to watch the world burn. Trump's no anti establishment hero, if anything he's even more part of it than Hillary, since at least she was a proxy for people like Trump, except richer.

And it's no surprise he won, to this day I still don't get what's so shocking.

>>14925904
Yeah. It's a shame that Rommel died. He would have been a good statesman in post war Germany.

>>14928040
>a real estate businessman and media personality is truly the outsider and anti-establishment candidate America needed
Well yeah, he wasn't even a politician, even most of the GOP hated him until they had no real choice but to back him. That's pretty much the definition of a political outsider

>Hurr everyone who voted red is a retard
And you people wonder why Hillary lost

>>14928040
>Let's say that he just sold this kool-aid well enough to convince the dumbest part of America
mmmm those tears stay so tasty day after day

>>14928040
He's the outsider and anti-establishment since he literally has no connection to the establishment.

Even your precious bitch boy Sanders was in the establishment.

>>14927936
My point is that the emails were baggage for the opposite party to latch on to. I couldn't care less about its contents.

>>14927947
I'm not butt hurt at Trump. I've read quite a few about him and I just dislike him as a person, and I would hate working for him. I just know his kind, and I want nothing to do with it. If anything, I just pity those who will have to put up with his BS. His presidency doesn't affect me in any shape or form. I'm just talking about him as a person, not that he's a "conservative".

>>14928040
>Oh yeah, a real estate businessman and media personality is truly the outsider and anti-establishment candidate
I agree, he's not, but that's how he perceived himself to be.

>>14928071
Sound like you got a personal problem with Trump, yet hasn't meet with him personally.

And no, you not caring about Clinton email contents does not mean other people don't.

>>14928047
>That's pretty much the definition of a political outsider
Maybe if you can't see further than your own nose.
>And you people wonder why Hillary lost
Hillary lost the moment she entered the race, she couldn't even shrug off Sanders, that alone tells a lot.

Trump won because again, he convinced all those dumb fuckers that he wasn't in it for the money and then used the typical double mandate swing season to pander to those that weren't satisfied with Obama's administration by feeding on completely irrational fearmongering, spouting lies and nationalistic drivel.

None of this is new to politics, not even the libs not seeing this coming, because that's what they do best, but saying that any kind of educated people voted Trump because he has any kind of remotely coherent or even acceptable program is science fiction, hell, he's STILL doing 180° on all of his campaign positions as we're typing, the guy conned you americans just like he did with his customers and employees all around the world.
If you do claim that you're an educated person and voted for Trump because of his non existent positions and agenda, then I have to doubt you're actually educated at all.
But hey, you guys wanted your Bush 2,0 so much you got it in the end, all the better for you, not like there was much choice to begin with consider the alternative was Hillary, I just find your justification laughable.

>>14928076
It's not a personal "problem". I've read a few stuff where people said they actually worked for him and were fucking miserable.

I don't have to personally meet someone to already know I'm going to dislike him. This is all based on what I heard, and his TV appearances.

I couldn't care less about the left - right dichotomy. Trump is just the kind of person I would hate meeting.

>>14928079
>all those dumb fuckers
See there you go again
You realize people getting suck of getting called retarded for working middle class jobs or being called racist or sexist just for being white or being a man is a big reason there was a lot of turnout for Trump
Hillary and her supporters spent their entire campaign demonizing anyone who was against them

And I didn't vote for Trump either, I'm not even American, but I sure am fucking glad he won over Hillary.

>>14928094
>suck
sick*
Whoops

/pol/ will soon learn that there's no such thing as a perfect candidate that will fix everything wrong, especially with someone who doesn't have the know how. Most of them are still edy teenagers, and don't know the taste of disappointment they'll get from him.

Now that they got their candidate as president, they will be on defense mode for the next 4 years.

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>>14928079
>all those dumb fuckers
WHITE BASE IS SAVED AGAIN

>>14928105
Trump doesn't need to fix everything wrong, he just needs show the Right can still win.

This is already a huge morale boost.

>>14928079
>Hillary lost the moment she entered the race, she couldn't even shrug off Sanders, that alone tells a lot.
But she shrugs off Sanders.

The difference between him and Hillary were 3 million votes.

>>14928079
Obama is already Bush 2.0. and you liberals still support him.
>>14928085
It's absolutely a personal problem, you read about him and project your own hatred to him and decide to dislike him.

>>14928094
Or for defending pussy grabbing.
Or for blindly agreeing that Mexicans are all rapist drug lords.
Or for thinking the problem with Black society is that they're all ghetto niggers suffering from ghetto nigger nonsense when that's just a piece of a puzzle that also includes problems like, say, the longstanding borderline-gangwar beef with law enforcement communities.

There's being yelled at for acting like a privileged white, and then there's just being vulgar and ignorant and getting rewarded for it just to spite political correctness.

>>14928113
Why can't the Right win? They always could win. They just needed the right populist candidate; Trump.

The left - right dichotomy doesn't matter. All that matters is that people get excited and passionate over a candidate. People were excited over Trump, people weren't over Hillary.

>>14928120
>Or for defending pussy grabbing.
What's wrong with pussy grabbing again?
>Or for blindly agreeing that Mexicans are all rapist drug lords.
Trump did not say that, cool misquote, but I hope he did.
>Or for thinking the problem with Black society is that they're all ghetto niggers suffering from ghetto nigger nonsense when that's just a piece of a puzzle that also includes problems like, say, the longstanding borderline-gangwar beef with law enforcement communities.
BLM ruined everything the niggers tried to amend.

>There's being yelled at for acting like a privileged white, and then there's just being vulgar and ignorant and getting rewarded for it just to spite political correctness.
>privileged white
Leftists never learn.

>>14928120
>Or for blindly agreeing that Mexicans are all rapist drug lords.
That ILLEGAL immigrants are often criminals and shouldn't be afforded the same rights as legal immigrants or legal citizens? Yeah sure

>Or for thinking the problem with Black society is that they're all ghetto niggers suffering from ghetto nigger nonsense
Actually that's pretty much it. Poverty has a lot more to do with how people act than race. But by turning it into a race issue people get emotional and easy to control.

>privileged white
There you go again.

Shouldn't you be shilling on /pol/ instead of /m/? Or did you just realize mods never do their fucking job here?

>>14928124
The Right can win, that's the point, the liberal media has been saying the right cannot win over and over again.

But /pol/ proves them wrong.

>>14928130
You don't see poor white acting like niggers.

Only wiggers (college kid liberals) try to act like niggers.

>>14928133
>the liberal media
It's not the liberal media, it's just the media. The media is whatever you want it to be depending on who's in power.

I see nothing liberal about the media desu.

>>14928079
>dumb fuckers

Another coastie mad that the flyover states they mock and exploit rebelled.

It's like London and the rest of England all over again.

>>14928137
Always trying to deflect the word.

The media is liberal because it's constantly shilling for black, for spic, for gays, trans and other.

And no, it's definitely liberal because it's been shitting on Bush, but never on Obama despite them being the fucking same.

>>14928137
>I see nothing liberal about the media
>pops the teebeeaych filter
cute

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>>14928134
Of course not.

States like Kentucky and West Virginia have lots of poor white people but very little crime.

They have drug problems, but they're not killing other people or each other.

I ask to be sure, is anyone here seriously "offended" by Trump saying grabbing the pussy?

Honestly? Really?

>>14928094
>You realize people getting suck of getting called retarded for working middle class jobs
That isn't even remotely true, and if anything Trump himself says this kind of bullshit and gloats about it.
Because fuck being a honest middle class worker when you can be a rich crook and avoid paying taxes for decades because of legislation loops, oh right, he's gonna fix those now eh?
>or being called racist or sexist just for being white or being a man
This is just as much of a persecution complex as those of the various Tumblrinas and SJW around, it is largely false and used to justify any sort of stupid behaviour.
It's just as stupid as the whole White culture meme.
>Hillary and her supporters spent their entire campaign demonizing anyone who was against them
And what did Trump do?
Exactly the same thing.
It's not like he took the moral highground either considering he was the first to come up with that tactic and even went as far as making a point of jailing his opponent.

Then again, I'm not american either, and I don't care much, both candidates were simply terrible, but Trumptards thinking he has some kind of moral superiority or a rational and educated voterbase is frankly ridiculous.

See this thread, like many others, Trump supporters always prove they're just a mob who thrives on lies, name calling and "what's wrong with being a racist piece of shit" argument.
Not like they could do anything else, Trump is a puppet with no plans, so you possibly can't defend what's not there to begin with and have to resort to calling the other side bad.
And what's funnier is that right when you think the Clinton dinasty is over Trump puts all of his children in a prominent political position.

>>14928145
>>14928147
>but never on Obama
It's called Fox News.

>>14928160
Fox News is a different channel and it's fucking ridiculed by CNN, MSBCN, NCB and other "media".

>>14928130
Problem I have is that the way it was routinely phrased, Trump presented the narrative that the Black community AS A WHOLE all live impoverished lives in ghettos surrounded by violence, when it's just a subset of them. A very relevant subset, and one that is pretty much the unintentional face of the community, but not inclusive of all Black individuals.

It came off as very patronizing, to the point it became apparent Trump was probably trying to woo over progressives instead of actual Blacks. The white man taking up the duty of elevating the savage black from their lowly station, it just comes off as being detached from the reality of it all, almost as detached as the stereotype of the white male SJW who tries to be the voice of every other minority.

>>14928156
>It's just as stupid as the whole White culture meme.
White culture is a meme now?

You honestly believe that?

>>14928162
I hope you don't think those channels are "liberal". Fucking hell, CNN? Liberal? All of them try to be "neutral" and never taking any sides.

>>14928163
Niggers are the poorest race in America, yes, even poorer than spic.

>>14928153
>I ask to be sure, is anyone here seriously "offended" by Trump saying grabbing the pussy?

No. It's hard to be offended these days, especially for someone who's been on 4chan.

With that said, while I actually don't care whether he said "grab by the pussy" and "I don't even wait" (lack of consent, which does constitute as sexual assault),

it makes me think very poorly of him. You clearly don't give a damn, and to be frank, I don't either, but words are powerful, and they can easily set the tone for years to come.

Now that he's a president, he should be more careful with his words. Creating enemies on your side is always a bad idea, bad for his mental, bad for his business, and bad for good deals.

>>14928168
They are all liberal channels because they are about gays, niggers, spics and trannies.

>CNN? Liberal? All of them try to be "neutral" and never taking any sides.
The very CNN that takes Clinton's side since the beginning?

>>14928178
I cannot believe it.

So someone actually gets mad at "grab the pussy". Jesus christ.

>Now that he's a president, he should be more careful with his words. Creating enemies on your side is always a bad idea, bad for his mental, bad for his business, and bad for good deals.
No, he should just keep being Trump. PR is a bad fucking game.

>>14928180
I wasn't talking about Clinton, but why is it that they don't seem to reach a consensus on climate change for example?

They're scared to offend anyone that funds them, it's pretty simple.

>>14928180
>they're liberal because white people don't do anything newsworthy

Ahahahahahahah get fucked leaf.

>>14928186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbjPQisjyfM

What CNN are you watching?

>>14928167
Of course he does, he's a liberal.

As far as people like him are concerned, white people have no culture or identity; and if they did, appreciating them would be racist.

>>14928183
Trump has already expressed indications that he'd like to continue having large rallies even as President. I think that would be a good thing.

>>14928190
Actually, white people do that shit every days, in fact, CNN reports white people as serial killer, rapist all the times.

>>14928183
>So someone actually gets mad at "grab the pussy". Jesus christ.
What? When did I say I was mad at his comment? Stop acting like a dishonest brat.

>No, he should just keep being Trump. PR is a bad fucking game.
By being divisive? How is that a good thing for the country? Now that's just delusional.

>>14928195
It gets derailed into gun legislation though, followed by a clip of LaPierre saying gun crime would be deterred by having more guns.

>>14928192
Oh? That's a good thing then.

>>14928156
>Because fuck being a honest middle class worker when you can be a rich crook and avoid paying taxes for decades because of legislation loops, oh right, he's gonna fix those now eh?
The republicans will fix those because they prefer low taxes. Rich people already pay taxes and they know how to dodge them.
>This is just as much of a persecution complex as those of the various Tumblrinas and SJW around, it is largely false and used to justify any sort of stupid behaviour.
Except they are indeed called racist and sexist every fucking times, even when they defend themselves.
>And what did Trump do?
Trump stood by his ground and called out everyone.
>And even went as far as making a point of jailing his opponent.
Because she deserves to be in jail for all the crimes she did.
>
Then again, I'm not american either, and I don't care much, both candidates were simply terrible, but Trumptards thinking he has some kind of moral superiority or a rational and educated voterbase is frankly ridiculous.
Trump is a reasonable option and the people fucking like him, working class people who work for a living.
>See this thread, like many others, Trump supporters always prove they're just a mob who thrives on lies, name calling and "what's wrong with being a racist piece of shit" argument.
What's wrong with being a racist again?

Can you honestly tell me?

>>14925815
>bush 3.0
>not obama

>>14928200
>What? When did I say I was mad at his comment? Stop acting like a dishonest brat.
You said it yourself:
>it makes me think very poorly of him.
>By being divisive? How is that a good thing for the country? Now that's just delusional.
It's a good thing for the country to know what demographics have the problems.

>>14925815
Gunlord, so even you are stupid about this.

The people don't want an establishment candidate, that's why they aren't voting for Clinton.

>>14928201
Except gun crimes would be deterred by having more guns.

The states having the most legal guns are the safest ones.

>>14928205
WHAT CRIMES, RUDI?

COMEY SAYS SHE'S CLEAN. HE SABOTAGED HER RACE JUST TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW HE WASN'T TAKING ANY SIDES TOO.

>>14928208
Just because it makes me think very poorly of him doesn't make me "mad". Stop strawmanning and equating me to a crazy sjw. Unlike others, I don't what he said was unacceptable. I just think it's of poor taste.

There's nothing in this World that offends me, and it's certainly not what someone said in a private conversation.

>It's a good thing for the country to know what demographics have the problems.
You're not making any sense.

>>14928214
Yeah so what about the ones with the most guns regardless of legal ownership?

Checkmate, NRA.

>>14927376
No, Trump is at the same age as Reagan.
>>14927374
>Bernie on the other hand was an outsider, and actually had a message, regardless of whether you agreed or disagreed.
Bernie is a fucking senator, he's been with the establishment longer than Trump ever did, outsider my ass.

>>14928223
Do you understand public appearance? In politics, it doesn't matter what you are, it's what you present yourself as.

That said, Sanders is an independent, so he's an outsider in that sense.

>>14928216
Crimes of hosting state emails on private servers that can be checked by various devices.
Accepting donations from foreign government, knowingly Saudi Arabia.
Knowing about Benghazi beforehands but refused to help.

>>14928221
Then you would have illegal guns, which are already crimes.

>>14928225
He was an independent; now he's a dem

>>14928217
>Just because it makes me think very poorly of him doesn't make me "mad". Stop strawmanning and equating me to a crazy sjw.
You are a crazy ass sjw if you think "grabbing the pussy" is somehow poor taste.
>You're not making any sense.
What? If the whites have problems, whites own up to the problems, if the blacks have the problems, they should own up to.

Never blame everyone, because that means no one fix anything.

>>14928225
>Do you understand public appearance? In politics, it doesn't matter what you are, it's what you present yourself as.
Sanders presents himself as a champaign socialist who wants higher tax, more anti-gun policies and he spouts some serious anti-white in his campaign.
He's Hillary on crack.
>That said, Sanders is an independent, so he's an outsider in that sense.
He runs as a democrat and toes the democrat partyline to the T.

>>14928226
-Comey cleared her, doing a stupid is not the same as a crime against the state, security policies are not criminally prosecutable laws.
-I don't see how it's illegal to be paid, especially when a lot of the foreign money is for paid speeches. But I guess it's OK when anyone but Clinton does it.
-k now you're just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.

>>14928229
>You are a crazy ass sjw if you think "grabbing the pussy" is somehow poor taste.
I don't think you understand what a SJW is.

SJW = Social Justice Warrior.

They're warriors who want social JUSTICE. Pay attention to the word JUSTICE. Do I want justice for Trump because he said grab by the pussy? Absolutely not.

You can't seem to accept a different opinion and want to label any opinion you don't like as SJW. This is strawmanning, and quite dishonest on your part.

>>14928235
>-Comey cleared her, doing a stupid is not the same as a crime against the state, security policies are not criminally prosecutable laws.
No, being stupid and using a private server that is easily hackable means you deserve to get prosecuted.
>-I don't see how it's illegal to be paid, especially when a lot of the foreign money is for paid speeches. But I guess it's OK when anyone but Clinton does it.
No, it's not fucking okay if you are paid by foreign government to make speeches.
>-k now you're just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.
Don't make me show the "so what" comment.

>>14928205
What's right about being racist though
Isn't that basically just admitting you can't think rationally and get easily led on

>>14928237
A social justice warrior would constantly try to police language because she deems it unacceptable/poor taste or offensive.

And that's what you are doing, especially with innocent words like "grabbing the pussy".

>>14928229
Without mutual consent between both parties, the personal space violation inherent in grabbing any sort of genitals is not ok.

You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

>>14928240
Being racist is literally of caring about your own race first and hates on other races.

>Isn't that basically just admitting you can't think rationally and get easily led on
The fuck? Caring about your race is not thinking rationally now?

>>14928234
>Sanders presents himself as a champaign socialist who wants higher tax, more anti-gun policies and he spouts some serious anti-white in his campaign.

Let me ask you this. During our conversation, when did you think I was defending Sanders?

You want to know what's wrong with this whole conversation and the alt-right in general? You went on the offense and attacked Sanders, even when it wasn't even in my interest to defend him. You completely missed the point about presenting yourself as an "outsider", and went /pol/ tard. I'm here to bring you back to your senses and stop acting like a ravenous dog.

>>14928244
Except I can pick my friend's nose, I can grab his nose even, because he's my friend.

>>14928239
-there is nothing to prosecute, no law was broken, the only argument that could work is if they found state secrets WHICH THEY DIDN'T.
-OK so I guess we should never sell any good or service to a foreign country. Dumbass.
-wow it's fucking nothing!

>>14928243
>A social justice warrior would constantly try to police language because she deems it unacceptable/poor taste or offensive.
When did I say I want to police Trump because he said that? Fuck off m8. You're being one dishonest fuck.

>>14928247
No, this thread has people championing Sanders against both Trump and Hillary, this is a common Bernout tactics because they want to siphon votes for Sanders.
>You completely missed the point about presenting yourself as an "outsider", and went /pol/ tard. I'm here to bring you back to your senses and stop acting like a ravenous dog.
Except Sanders doesn't present himself as an outsider to anyone but his own supporters, while you treat Trump supporter as a fucking hivemind.
>even when it wasn't even in my interest to defend him.
It's your interest to defend Sanders, I know you want people to vote for him.

LEAFS 4 TRUMP AMIRITE?

Do you really want the progressive immigrants that badly?

>>14928255
Hey, faggot, you said:
>Now that he's a president, he should be more careful with his words.
So yes, that's language policing.

>>14928250
>-there is nothing to prosecute, no law was broken, the only argument that could work is if they found state secrets WHICH THEY DIDN'T.
The law was broken when she used private servers to store her shitty emails.
>-OK so I guess we should never sell any good or service to a foreign country. Dumbass.
Yes, the president is not in position to sell shit to foreign countries.
>-wow it's fucking nothing!
Yep, one dead ambassador and destabilizing Lybia, nothing...

>>14928260
It's called an advice, not policing. Policing is when femnazis force game companies to censor their female in game models.

I said that, because I know it's best for himself. Also, Trump disagrees with you and actually agree with me on that. Just look at the Obama meeting he just had.

Why didn't he just go on a rant and call Obama a nigger? He didn't. He played nice, because he knows it's in his best interests to do so.

>>14928259
Nobody fucking want them. Canada immigration policy isn't easy unless you are a brownskin.

>>14928263
A security policy is not a law, no matter how much your friends at r/thedonald insist it is.

>>14928265
>It's called an advice, not policing. Policing is when femnazis force game companies to censor their female in game models.
Femnazis "force" game companies by boycotting them or getting on Twitter and giving game companies "advice".
>I said that, because I know it's best for himself. Also, Trump disagrees with you and actually agree with me on that. Just look at the Obama meeting he just had.
And I disagree with Trump, that nigger deserves every lambasts he got for saying bad shit about Trump for months.

>I said that, because I know it's best for himself.
Nobody likes a nice Trump.

>>14928257
>It's your interest to defend Sanders, I know you want people to vote for him.
Now that's delusional.

Hey, do you know that I'm not American and couldn't care less who gets elected? Your presidents don't affect me or my country. It really doesn't.

I was here to talk about ideas, but you're just here to suck Trump's dick. I can assure you I'm non partisan, and I wanted to talk about ideas freely without some faglord constantly going on about his favourite candidate.

>>14928268
It's not just me, my friends and half of America.

>>14928270
>Femnazis "force" game companies by boycotting them or getting on Twitter and giving game companies "advice".
Okay, so when did I go out of my way to force Trump to apologise for his remarks?

I just offered an opinion that actually seem to upset you. What's wrong? I thought people should learn to deal with differing opinions. Doesn't that go straight to the core of the SJW problem?

I think it of poor taste, and you don't. That's FINE, but don't fucking tell me one moment that I'm the fucking SJW when you're the one getting offended over the fact that I have a differing opinion.

>>14928271
>Now that's delusional.
Not really, I have been argue against your kind for weeks.
>Hey, do you know that I'm not American and couldn't care less who gets elected? Your presidents don't affect me or my country. It really doesn't.
America's politics affect the whole world.
>I was here to talk about ideas, but you're just here to suck Trump's dick.
You are here to shill for Sanders and shit on Trump whenever you can because you are pissed Trump wins but cucky Sanders doesn't.
> I can assure you I'm non partisan, and I wanted to talk about ideas freely without some faglord constantly going on about his favourite candidate.
Nah, I do not trust you, especially after so many times you shilled for Sanders.

>>14928277
>Okay, so when did I go out of my way to force Trump to apologise for his remarks?
You are telling him to watch what he said.
>I just offered an opinion that actually seem to upset you. What's wrong? I thought people should learn to deal with differing opinions. Doesn't that go straight to the core of the SJW problem?
I'm dealing with it, and my opinion is that you are a stealth type SJW.
>I think it of poor taste, and you don't. That's FINE, but don't fucking tell me one moment that I'm the fucking SJW when you're the one getting offended over the fact that I have a differing opinion.
Well, you are the one getting offended by the "grab the pussy comment".

>>14928277
>>14928284
Just fuck already

>>14928275
So yeah, white culture doesn't actually exist. Next time, don't wear a suit.
>For the rich, who as you say dodge taxes anyway, so they won't fix anything.
Low taxes for everybody, even the middle class.
>Stop reading Breitbart tier drivel and get out, this is simply delusional.
You have CNN telling people sexist, racist all the times, even Obongo telling people sexist if they do not vote Clinton.
>Especially for a place like America, where the national sport is "shoot the nigger".
I wish that's our national sport because that would fix a lot of crimes in America.
>When he's just as bad if not worse.
How? By saying "crude sex remarks" and racist things?
>Same can be said about him, but she never said anything about prosecuting him if she won.
What crimes have Trump done?
>Why?
Because he's pro-gun, pro-lower taxes, anti-immigration and pro-domestic market/protectionist.
>It's like it isn't really that good to discriminate people based on their skin colour or ethnicity.
Why isn't that good? People have their own races and care for their races first, what's the big problem?

>>14928278
I don't gain anything from Sanders being president. What the fuck this is hilarious. Ok, here goes, I don't give a shit about Clinton or Sanders. I also don't give a shit about Trump, because these are American politicians, and I don't live in America.

I was here to discuss ideas, but you're here to shill Trump. I'm not interested in the right - left debate which you seem to be so keen of.

>>14928286
Nah, I don't fuck SJWs.

>>14928153
We're gonna have to rename the office of the Presidency to something else when this is all over, just to wash his stink off of the title. He's forever cheapened the name. But before we do that, we'll elect a dog to serve a term of a week, just so history books won't mark Trump down as "the last President".

Trump is an undignified, unrespectable manchild and precisely the kind of corrupt establishment crony fucker that everyone on /pol/ cries about, but because he's "not PC" he gets a pass. Except he's not even un-PC; he cries like a little baby bitch any time someone says the slightest thing rude about him or he doesn't get his way. He's a hypocrite, an idiot, and his taste in interior decorating sucks.

The word "pussy" was never the objectionable part of his statement. Don't be a fucking idiot.

>>14928296
>I don't gain anything from Sanders being president.
You gain something, which is about shilling socialist ideas, which is the whole point of Sanders.
>I was here to discuss ideas, but you're here to shill Trump.
I'm here to discuss ideas too, just that these ideas are pro-Trump.
>I'm not interested in the right - left debate which you seem to be so keen of.
Ideas such as Sanders is gonna beat Trump, despite himself getting beaten by Hillary and got cucked by her?

>>14928168
You're trying to argue with /pol/lacks who've drunk deep of the Trump-Aid. Their only source of news is Breitbart and RT. Only things that confirm their worldviews are true; everything else is worse than wrong, it's biased. Products of decades of propaganda that they're all to eager to lap up because dissenting viewpoints make their skin crawl.

>>14928302
Yeah, he cries like a little baby bitch except Clinton's the one crying.

I remember Obongo saying he's never gonna be a president too, but see where it goes.

>Trump is an undignified, unrespectable manchild and precisely the kind of corrupt establishment crony fucker
/pol/ like frankness, and Trump himself is an outsider because he's not a politician.

>The word "pussy" was never the objectionable part of his statement. Don't be a fucking idiot.
There's no objectionable part of his statement, there's nothing wrong with saying grabbing the pussy.

>>14928284
>You are telling him to watch what he said.
More like, it's what I think he should do. If he doesn't want to, then whatever m8. None of my business what he does.

>I'm dealing with it, and my opinion is that you are a stealth type SJW.
And it's my opinion that you're wrong in that assessment. I think SJWs are cancer on this planet and should be opposed, but if I think something is of poor taste, it's an opinion. Trump and you of course are free to do whatever and say whatever the fuck you want.

>Well, you are the one getting offended by the "grab the pussy comment".
I'm not offended. I spent the last 10 years on 4chan being on /b/, and then /pol/. Come on, how could I ever be possibly offended other such a remark? I think it's of poor taste, because I think I do better locker room talk than him. That's all there is to it.

>>14928306
>Only things that confirm their worldviews are true; everything else is worse than wrong

To be fair, this isn't unique to /pol/. Both sides of the political spectrum are guilty of this.

>>14928295
Sexual assault.
The Trump U scam.
Libel, coercive threats, embezzlement of foundation funds, misleading advertisement with regards to Trump brands and their successes (Trump Steaks were a failure then yet somehow retroactively became a success now?)...

Oh wait, it's OK because he didn't set up an email server that technically no one had a law saying it was not permitted! But that's ok, emails that might exist should be prosecuted while Trump builds more golf courses in Russia for those Slavic double niggers.

>>14928306
Of course, Trump supporters are a hivemind. While you are the special snowflake who think for himself.

>>14928303
>Ideas such as Sanders is gonna beat Trump, despite himself getting beaten by Hillary and got cucked by her?
I'm not a Berniefag, but Bernie vs Hillary and Bernie vs Trump are two completely different situations and the outcome of the former doesn't really say anything about the potential outcome of the latter.

>>14928310
>More like, it's what I think he should do. If he doesn't want to, then whatever m8. None of my business what he does.
You seem to care for a lot of what he says.

>And it's my opinion that you're wrong in that assessment. I think SJWs are cancer on this planet and should be opposed, but if I think something is of poor taste, it's an opinion. Trump and you of course are free to do whatever and say whatever the fuck you want.
So we are free to say you are a SJW then?
> Come on, how could I ever be possibly offended other such a remark? I think it's of poor taste, because I think I do better locker room talk than him. That's all there is to it.
The fact you think it's in poor taste when it's such a simple and innocent phrases make it weird for me, especially for someone who spend 10 years on /b/.

>>14928316
Uhm, but Bernie cannot beat Hillary in the first place?

Thus Bernie cannot beat Trump?

>tfw I'd rather be reading /pol/ straight from the source than deal with this low energy excuse of a ma/pol/ leaf

>>14928306
The same can be said of the liberals who went to the streets when they learned who won, saying that "it must have been rigged, because NOONE wanted Trump to win". They were so ingrained in their facebook/twitter/9gag circlejerks, they can't even process the fact that half of the country had a differing opinion.

By the way, Kojima predicted that.
https://youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA?t=3m40s

>>14928303
>You gain something, which is about shilling socialist ideas, which is the whole point of Sanders.
Now that's stupid. I know what I believe in, and I'm no socialist.

>I'm here to discuss ideas too, just that these ideas are pro-Trump.
You're actually shilling for Trump, not merely discussing ideas.

>Ideas such as Sanders is gonna beat Trump, despite himself getting beaten by Hillary and got cucked by her?
Yes, it's an idea, but it's a non-partisan one. You want to know why? Because I have no part in this right - left debate.

This is my analysis of the left, not my support of the left. Learn the difference. It's the same as me watching a football game, and when a coach uses a wrong formation, I'll think that he used a wrong formation, not that I support that team.

Please, pay attention and stop going on ridiculous rants that I don't give a damn about.

>>14928314
>Sexual assault.
Proof?
>The Trump U scam.
A civil case.
>Libel, coercive threats, embezzlement of foundation funds, misleading advertisement with regards to Trump brands and their successes (Trump Steaks were a failure then yet somehow retroactively became a success now?)...
All civil cases.
>Oh wait, it's OK because he didn't set up an email server that technically no one had a law saying it was not permitted!
It's not permitted for a state official to use private server to store emails, which are easily hackable by foreign parties.
>while Trump builds more golf courses in Russia for those Slavic double niggers.
Oh that hate, Trump can build anything he wants, because he's not a politician.

>>14928326
It... doesn't work that way. You're basically saying
>Uhm, but Scissors cannot beat Rock in the first place?
>Thus Scissors cannot beat Paper?
I'm not even saying that Bernie would win (since I'm not a political analyst). I'm just saying that Hillary beating Bernie doesn't imply Trump beating Bernie.

>>14928309
>wah I'm going to expand libel laws because people are saying bad things about me
>wah the media's been so dishonest, reporting my words
>wah Clinton's campaign ads are so incredibly hurtful and negative even though they're literally just tapes of me talking
>wah why didn't I win an Emmy, everything's rigged
>wah the polls aren't in my favor, they're rigged, they're lies, Clinton's going to steal the election, I don't trust anything
>wah a rapper said the n-word
>wah we have to ban porn
Trump isn't orange because he uses bad spray-tan, he's orange because his skin is so fucking thin you can practically see the red of his blood and muscle under there.

>Trump himself is an outsider because he's not a politician
Give me a fucking break you delusional dipshit. He's a(n alleged) billionaire businessman with global ties. George Soros, Enemy of All That Is according to your circlejerking pals, isn't a politician either--is he a fucking outsider? No? Then neither is Trump. And oh look, he's seeking to populate his cabinet and advisors with all the establishment shills everyone was crying about to begin with.

You twits never cared about draining the swamp or getting the establishment out, you just worship the Trumpian cult of personality. He is everything you claim to hate, but he's conned you like a buyer of bad steaks and real estate education.
You are suckers.
Rubes.
Dupes.
Morons.

It's ironic, but obvious to anyone who's been paying attention, that the dense motherfuckers claiming to be the most red-pilled or wokest are the ones deepest in slumber.

>>14928328
To be fair those protesters are a bunch of salty bitches.

Even a blue state like Maryland will agree the guys here that are protesting are just really salty.

>>14928330
>Now that's stupid. I know what I believe in, and I'm no socialist.
I don't know what you believe in, but I think you are a socialist.
>You're actually shilling for Trump, not merely discussing ideas.
I am discussing ideas though.
>Yes, it's an idea, but it's a non-partisan one. You want to know why? Because I have no part in this right - left debate.
What, because you say so?

>This is my analysis of the left, not my support of the left. Learn the difference. It's the same as me watching a football game, and when a coach uses a wrong formation, I'll think that he used a wrong formation, not that I support that team.
I'm not going to full psychoanalysis on this, I'm just going to say you are a socialist. You notice Bernie is falling, and you want to champion Bernie again and again.

>>14928340
Yeah I live in MA and most people I've talked to just think the protests are silly

>>14928323
>You seem to care for a lot of what he says.
I don't. I just saw it on the internet on youtube, and I had a thought. My initial thought was that it was of poor taste and I would have handled it better, but then I zoned out and went to play some games. Really makes you think that you people are blowing things out of proportions.

>So we are free to say you are a SJW then?
Correct, but I'm here to say that your assessment is wrong, and that you are creating unnecessary enemies out of thin air.

You need to snap back to reality and have some nuance in your every day conversation. The election is over, you don't have to continue shilling. You've already made your point about SJWs, don't overreach.

Overreaching is what led to the SJWs downfall.

>The fact you think it's in poor taste when it's such a simple and innocent phrases make it weird for me, especially for someone who spend 10 years on /b/.
Maybe because I differentiate /b/ and real life.

>>14928338
>It... doesn't work that way. You're basically saying
It actually works that way because Bernie runs a dem, thus he has to beat Clinton first before going to Trump.
>I'm not even saying that Bernie would win (since I'm not a political analyst). I'm just saying that Hillary beating Bernie doesn't imply Trump beating Bernie.
I'm saying Hillary already Bernie so there's no need for Hillary to do so.

>>14928314
>Sexual Assault
Not him, but wasn't that rape accusation admitted to be fake?

Yeah he grabbed women by the cunt though.

>>14928332
>Proof?
The words from Trumps mouth, he admits forcing himself on women and getting away with it because he is rich. Where do you think "grab 'em by the pussy" came from you insipid cretin.

>>14928340
Yeah, they are salty, but they are also delusional. I've seen that sentiment numerous times over the week, people reacting like 90% of the society was anti-Trump, while that was never the case.

That was why Hillary lost by the way. Hillary's supporters believed her victory was assured, because OBVIOUSLY noone would vote for the racist, sexist white male, so less of them went to vote.

>>14928295
>Next time, don't wear a suit.
I'm not even wearing one now, so that's not a problem, your argument however is one.
>Low taxes for everybody, even the middle class.
Yeah, sure. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid, I've seen how the reps lowered taxes for everyone before.
>You have CNN telling people sexist, racist all the times
Because they are.
>even Obongo telling people sexist if they do not vote Clinton.
Because they logically are if they support Trump.
>How? By saying "crude sex remarks" and racist things?
By scamming people, by making business with mafia heads and god knows who other, by purposedly using loops to avoid paying for his shitty mistakes, by repeatedly not paying his employees, by lying repeatedly about facts, by refusing to release his tax returns and yes, by being a hypcrite, a racist and sexist piece of shit who thinks he can get away with it by being a rich son of a whore.
>Because he's pro-gun
In a nation that is plagued by gun crimes
>pro-lower taxes
Lolno
>anti-immigration
The silicon valley and a lot of research centers must be really happy about this
>and pro-domestic market/protectionist.
Yeah, I've seen how much he is about pro-domestic market when none of his products are made in America.
>Why isn't that good?
Because generalizing based on things such as ethnicity or skin colour is stupid and irrational.
>People have their own races and care for their races first
Lolno, that's what you retarded /pol/acks think, in the real world no intelligent people care about their "race", only simpletons and deluded morons with little mental capacity care about such a thing.

You should get out of whatever miserable hole you live in and get a good look of the world, travel around and speak with people, maybe you'll find out that the problem isn't foreigners, blacks, whites , liberals or democrats, but the big guys on top of it all fucking around at the expenses of everyone else.

And for god's sake educate yourself, go get some history manual.

>>14928339
>Trump isn't orange because he uses bad spray-tan, he's orange because his skin is so fucking thin you can practically see the red of his blood and muscle under there.
I don't see any blood or muscle, I just see man saying shit, and people agreeing with him for it. And he's incredibly right regarding the election being rigged and the media being dishonest. And the libel laws and porn ban are not just statement, I hope they happen.
> He's a(n alleged) billionaire businessman with global ties. George Soros, Enemy of All That Is according to your circlejerking pals, isn't a politician either--is he a fucking outsider? No? Then neither is Trump
Soros is an outsider himself, that's why he never runs, he lacks the charisma to be successfully, and he's involved in too many political organization.
>You twits never cared about draining the swamp or getting the establishment out, you just worship the Trumpian cult of personality. He is everything you claim to hate, but he's conned you like a buyer of bad steaks and real estate education.
He's already getting a bunch of new blood, including Steve Bannon into his gang, and this already sparks rivalries with the GOP, he's draining the swarm and he's not in office yet.
>It's ironic, but obvious to anyone who's been paying attention, that the dense motherfuckers claiming to be the most red-pilled or wokest are the ones deepest in slumber.
You been kicking and screaming for the whole election, boyo.

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>>14928339
Irony:
The red pill led to a lie perhaps far greater than the Matrix itself, a cyclic purge meant to erase a critical mass of outsiders to a system even as that system allowed people to leave it in the first place.

>>14928351
That's not proof.

>>14928350
Maybe you're thinking of that nonexistent sex tape Trump alluded to to try and discredit one of the more prominent accusers.

>>14928354
>Because they logically are if they support Trump.
That's a logical fallacy. In a system where only two candidates are viable for victory, you are not expected to agree with every part of your candidate's worldview.

Extreme example: Let's say one candidate is a feminist version of the motherfucking Devil come out straight from Hell and the other candidate is a sexist version of Jesus Christ. Does voting for Christ in that situation imply you're sexist? Or does it imply that you are willing to forgive his sexism if your other option is to vote for the damnation of the immortal soul of every American?

>>14928345
>Really makes you think that you people are blowing things out of proportions.
The problem is it's fucking nothing. Grab the pussy is an incredibly common phrase, to be used by working class, execs, all kind of people. The fact you think it's in poor taste is strange.
>Correct, but I'm here to say that your assessment is wrong, and that you are creating unnecessary enemies out of thin air.
What? You are not my friend nor my enemy, you are just another SJW.
>You need to snap back to reality and have some nuance in your every day conversation. The election is over, you don't have to continue shilling. You've already made your point about SJWs, don't overreach.
I have never overreached, I just don't do PR, which is why I find it weird that you find the joke is "poor taste".
>Maybe because I differentiate /b/ and real life.
Real life people are even dirtier than /b/, especially working class.

>>14928223
Trump is actually a year older than Reagan was when he took the presidency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_age#List_of_Presidents_by_age

Organize it by inauguration date. It's not a huge difference, but it is there. Not many folks have mentioned this, actually, it's interesting.

>>14928212
You're right, the people don't want an establishment candidate. But what people want and what they get are often two different things :/

>>14928341
>I don't know what you believe in, but I think you are a socialist.
My beliefs are very shaky because I'm still trying to form them. Why should I pick a position now? I still have long to live. I won't commit to an idea just to change it in a few years.

>What, because you say so?
Yeah, why can't you take my word for it? I have no reason to lie.

>I'm not going to full psychoanalysis on this, I'm just going to say you are a socialist. You notice Bernie is falling, and you want to champion Bernie again and again.
And you would be wrong. Here's my psychoanalysis of you. You want me to be a socialist so much, so that you can unleash your alt right bs on me.

Here's your politician. Not mine. I only know guys Sanders, Ted Cruz and the rest because I watched some YouTube, and got entertained by your elections. I thank the 2016 elections for providing plenty of keks, but now that it's over, I'll just go back to do whatever I was doing before.

You're essentially the football player who's attacking a spectator for little reason. I'm just here to spectate and offer my analysis of the situation, and yes, that includes giving advice to Trump on what his next moves are if he wants to squash his opposition.

It's a game for me.

>>14928312
They are, but liberals have both a smaller contingent that works this way and one that it is true of to a lesser degree. If liberals could be wound up to the same heights of frenzy about some SJW-ish cause, we'd see blowouts in state and federal races everywhere but the deepest of red areas.

The problem the liberals keep having in elections is they're either unwilling or unable to stoop to the same brazenness of bullshit propaganda and indignant rage. If they acted like the far-right fringe, CNN would spend two weeks ignoring the Wikileaks story, then come out and say "it's all a bunch of crap and Putin wants to nuke America to ensure Trump wins" and every Berniebro or NeverHill would snap into lock-fucking-step.

We've seen that lying non-stop works. It doesn't matter if you contradict yourself, because if you take all positions, people can pick and choose the one they want to believe you believe. It doesn't matter if you get called on your shit, because anyone calling you on your shit is a liar, and you never lie. Any facts that don't fit perfectly into the narrative aren't just irrelevant, mischaracterized, or untrue, they are bald-faced lies paid for by Literal Satan.

>>14928312
>>14928372

So what should liberals do? Embrace it. Become the perfect mirror of the GOP. Sow hate and divisiveness and allow their superior numbers to win the propaganda war.

Republicans want to axe ACA? No, no. What they actually want to do is enslave you to insurance companies and jack up your rates 10x. Copays will be $200 just for a check-up. Child dentistry will be $500 for a cleaning. It's all in service to the GOP's corporate masters.

States' rights on abortion and the sanctity of life? No, no. They're not just going to shut down abortion clinics and force dangerous pregnancies to be carried to term, they're going to create forced breeding facilities where your daughters will be sent to be impregnated by the corporate elite and forced to pump out bastard children to work in the slave mines. And lest you think this means you're married into the family somehow, no, your children are just living broodmares.

Dismantling Medicare for the younger generations? Not just, friendo, they're creating roaming death squads that will perform on-site liquidations of anyone under the age of 30 and use their stem cells to form an age-defying nutrient paste that will extend the lifespan of the corporate elite.

De-regulation of Wall Street? No, forced tithing to their Dread God Marduk.

You shouldn't have to be a Bible-reading, gun-totin' Republican to make up total bullshit like FEMA camps and death panels. Let everyone in on the action. I heard that Trump's going to "drain the swamp" so he can pump all the water through our home water pipes and infect us with a government-created mosquito-borne illness that causes everyone to consume twice as much food, as a ploy to increase spending. And all the food will be replaced by GMOs and steroid-raised beef designed to turn us gay as a means of controlling population growth!

>>14928367
>The problem is it's fucking nothing. Grab the pussy is an incredibly common phrase, to be used by working class, execs, all kind of people. The fact you think it's in poor taste is strange.
It is your opinion that it's fucking nothing. My opinion is that it's something. It's not much, but still something.

I think it's of poor taste not because of I think people shouldn't grab pussies, it's rather because it's a 60 years old married man who said it. Context matters.

>Real life people are even dirtier than /b/, especially working class.
You think I don't know?

>>14928354
>I'm not even wearing one now, so that's not a problem, your argument however is one.
Well, stop speaking English.
>Yeah, sure. Keep drinking that Kool-Aid, I've seen how the reps lowered taxes for everyone before.
Taxes were lower under Bush.
>Because they are.
This is why we win.
>Because they logically are if they support Trump.
Okay, another way we win.
>By scamming people, by making business with mafia heads and god knows who other, by purposedly using loops to avoid paying...
All of these are civil cases which are solved or being solved, people still work with Trump.
>In a nation that is plagued by gun crimes
What? Do you think gun control is gonna get crimes down? Gun crimes, but other crimes?
>Lolno
Lol yes.
>The silicon valley and a lot of research centers must be really happy about this
They shouldn't, because silicon valley and research centers should fucking use American scientists in American soil.
>Yeah, I've seen how much he is about pro-domestic market when none of his products are made in America.
His most able products are his estates, which are made in America.
>Because generalizing based on things such as ethnicity or skin colour is stupid and irrational.
What? Why? Stereotypes exist for a reason.
>only simpletons and deluded morons with little mental capacity care about such a thing.
Yes, calling people stupid, the same routine.
>You should get out of whatever miserable hole you live in and get a good look of the world,
I travel a lot, in my country and outside, everyone care for their race first.
>but the big guys on top of it all fucking around at the expenses of everyone else.
The big guys on top regularly war with themselves actually.
>And for god's sake educate yourself, go get some history manual.
Uhm...maybe that advice should be better spent on you? Travel more, see more of the world before telling someone to get educated.

>I LITERALLY CAN'T STOP CRYING: A liberal's guide to coping with a Trump presidency

>>14928368
>Trump is actually a year older than Reagan was when he took the presidency.
Hmm, nice.
>You're right, the people don't want an establishment candidate. But what people want and what they get are often two different things :/
God, still doing this shit, eh Gunlord? They are getting Trump, instead of Clinton.

>>14928387
>he thinks Trump is anti-establishment
We really should raise the posting age on 4chan to something like 25.

>>14928386
Nice strawman.

This is what's wrong with the alt right. You're doing exactly what SJW does. You overblow things out of proportions. This will surely bite you in the ass in a few years.

>>14928386
>THE ART OF THE SHITPOST: One Leaf's Struggle to Keep MAGA Relevant

>>14928386
>he can't tell the difference between crying and laughter

>>14928369
>My beliefs are very shaky because I'm still trying to form them. Why should I pick a position now? I still have long to live. I won't commit to an idea just to change it in a few years.
You can change, but that's what you are right now.
>Yeah, why can't you take my word for it? I have no reason to lie.
You have every reasons to, to cover your own hide and ideology.
>And you would be wrong. Here's my psychoanalysis of you. You want me to be a socialist so much, so that you can unleash your alt right bs on me.
If you are a socialist, I don't need to unleash my "alt right" bs, just straight insult.
>You're essentially the football player who's attacking a spectator for little reason. I'm just here to spectate and offer my analysis of the situation
I'm attacking you because I think you are dishonest.
>that includes giving advice to Trump on what his next moves are if he wants to squash his opposition.
Thanks but no thanks, nobody likes a nice Trump.