Episode 31 - New thread

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>>14916028
Atra's ass is best awesome

>>14916028
Doesn't IBO have like six threads right now? Use one of them for fucks sake.

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Reminder Aston is Takaki's fuckboi.

Forth for Gali and Juli being a thing

>>14916045
This is an thread about episode and others are hate threads.

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Gali a shit

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>>14916060
Checked

I wonder whats in the rather unique system

>>14916028
Why is he sad, anon?

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>>14916060
You shut your whore mouth.

>>14916028
Does Mika ever not look like he's smelling a fart and nobody admits to it?

>>14916071
He just wants to go back to the farm

>>14916068
MUUUUUUUHHHHHHHH EIN

>>14916058
I swear I saw a thread for this episode earlier.

Also 'Hate thread' if you want a hugbox fuck off to ANN.

>>14916084
It may very well be the one we spawned from

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Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong door, the orphans club is two blocks down.

>>14916084
>I swear I saw a thread for this episode earlier.
yeah, he was also made by me and the thread is almost at the bump limit.

>>14916082
If Eins in one whos in the other?

Gali? Carta?

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>>14916046
those two better survive

>>14916128
That's impressive, first one of these threads that didn't last all the way until the new episode.

>>14916167
No

>>14916181
Show has been getting better.

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>>14916167
At the very least I hope someone named and more important than a background character of Tekkadan dies next episode, otherwise nothing but forced drama what a tease

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i wanna see this....

my bet is the new Beardy is just another scrub. they talk him up a bunch so Gilli can look good killing him. (to the audience)

>>14916158
Ein

Why did Macgillis launch when he's an arbitrator? He's not supposed to fight.

>>14916251
Because he needs/wants to end the conclict as soon as possible.

>>14916251
To get it the fuck over with

>>14916256
>>14916258
But if he beats up one side, then that economic bloc will cry foul and flip its shit creating even more instability.

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>>14916251
He already smells beardy plan, so he intends to end it before they keep wasting time

>>14916260
And if he let the war go on both sides will cry,

>>14916260
It was SAU the ones that requested Gjallarhorn, so high chances they are in favor of that power block, but not really sure how Gjallarhorn works

>>14916219
You mean things actually happen now?

Imagine how amazing this show would be if Mika was a girl.

>>14916291
Considering their childhood and their profession, if Mika was a girl how many abortions by now?

>>14916297
She would've just shot their dick off.

>>14916269
Other side has essentially given gjallarhorn the finger last season.

The first season made Macgillis look like a strategic mastermind but this season is making him look so bad.

>>14916329
How so?
What the fuck do you expect him to do in this situation?

>>14916335
Do I look like a mastermind to you?

>>14916329

Well deserved.

He is directly responsible for Carta's death after all.

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>>14916338
Well, he is suspecting that the conflict is fabricated and is being prolonged to make him look bad.
Plus it might well be that he's using himself as bait to draw out the person responsible.

Also it seems like the Meat Meister is a similarly good strategist to Mackie.

>>14916260
Not to mention, if he kills Tekkadan members like on the card Orga will be coming for reparations. McGillis will bring up the murder he covered up, but relations between McGillis and Tekkadan will suffer.

>>14916279
Maybe

>>14916378
The thing that's changed is the pacing and the fact that they stopped constantly repeating information everyone already knew.

Seriously, IBO S1 would be a decent show if it were condensed down to about half its runtime.

>>14916338
I can't see you, so I cant really say, but I dont think a mastermind shouldn't be seen.

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>>14916118
They're kinda cute.
But I think Lafter is just window shopping, she probably won't leave Naze. Especially since she has a kid with him.

>>14916224
well pretty sure someone is dying next episode. Takaki has so many death flags i'm thinking is a red herring. so Aston might bite the bullet.

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>>14916396
Yeah its mostly for the laughs, I don’t really think they will do anything with those two especially since she is part of Naze harem

>>14916474
>>14916396
I'm curious what the writers are even doing with azee and lafter. they don't much of anything. apart from being porn bait.

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no one cares.

>>14916528
>They're Tekkadan's MS Pilot Trainers
tekkadan are vets now, they don't need two outside their ranks pilots to teach them what to do.
>shit possibly getting serious, they need as many Vets in suits as possible.
so mika can solo the bad guys again and look like Jesus Yamato?

>>14916547
Hey, at least he's smashing them in different ways with different weapons instead of reused beamspam stock footage.

>>14917031
this cant be real

>>14917114
>Dies first
Maybe not in S1, but god damn if it didn't come true.

>>14917125
>this cant be real
BD

>>14917114
10/10

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>>14916068
it's the multi-slot accelerators on the Kimaris frame that can cause Ahab reactors to malfunction....or in the case of dual Ahab reactors to go boom. This is the image Gyoubu put up regarding wtf the kimaris' chest weapon does.

>>14916048
Gali's waifu is dead, now he can only have cute imoutos.

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>>14916491
I think they're supposed to up the female representation since Tekkadan is such a sausage party.

I still don't get why there are no female child soldiers here. Those orphans can't all wind up in brothels.

>>14917331
pls go back to /u/

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>>14917334
/m/ is /u/ with robits.

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>>14917337

>>14917331
>I still don't get why there are no female child soldiers here. Those orphans can't all wind up in brothels.
McGillis ''adopt'' all those girls.

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Reminder these are the IBO Fans

>>14917410
Reminder that you can take your console wars and shove them up your ass.

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>>14917410

>>14917178
Whoa those actually do something?

>>14917417
>console wars

so I wonder if McGillis will kill beard man? it'd be a blow to meat man.

>>14917958
Probably, he doesn't seem like a character who would be around for a long time and it would fit how IBO has done things previously.

>>14917958
I think that one of the orphans will kill that guy.

>>14916229
that's a mook Ritter not Mc's

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This sexy motherfucker better get a kit since the Geirail mold exists.

>>14918045
I hope its takaki. he got played the hardest by him.

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>>14917958
I wouldn't too surprised if chocochar kills him to regain some prestige and to screw up Russet's plan.

That is if Tekkadan doesn't do it first after they find out what is going on and/or after they get framed for something.

Might not be now but Tekkadan is certainly getting framed up at some point.
With some desperate struggle once everything falls apart, because that seems to be the rail Tekkadan is on.

>>14918145
Tekkedan doesn't really need to be framed at this point they have worked with most of the shady individuals in the show, except Rustal.

>>14918154
Well I'm imaging the framing could be from Russet to try and remove one of chocochar's pawns/tools.

It wouldn't be too hard for them to frame them for starting the whole war or pin the bombing on them.

>>14918061
Seems likely. The Blue Geirail kit only has an A, B, D1 and D2 runner, so I think the variations are going to be on the C runner in the future.

>>14918167
I don't even know why he would bother to go after Tekkedan directly Teiwaz seems like the easier route.

>>14918204
Tekkadan is a smaller group and the show has made pains to show they aren't good at politics.

So once shit hits the fan Teiwaz and other groups minus maybe Naze's group will likely abandon Tekkadan allowing them in Russet's mind to be eliminated easily.

>>14918245
Tekkedan doesn't lose fights though.

>>14918262
Pretty much but Russet thinks he's king potato and thinks no one can stand in his way.

He's gonna die soon isn't he?

>>14918271
He has at least half a dozen episodes left.

Bearded man is toast

>>14918274
Bearded man was toast once he showed his true colors as an "evil adult".

Russet is not gonna see the endgame either, the question is how soon.

>>14918287
Vidar's mech is almost done and he is with Rustal so there should be a chance soon.

Although he doesn't seem to leave his large ship, which don't really get destroyed in IBO.

Galan makes me think of a less interesting Ali Al-Saachez, but there's episodes left. Maybe he'll be something besides an "evil adult".

>>14918287
I think russet will be around for most the season actually. but I don't think he'll die via MS combat though.

>>14918306
Wonder how long he will work with Vidar, Gali didn't like his way of doing things in S1.

>>14918351
MacBeth crazy or just axe murderer crazy?

What is John Raynor end game?

>>14918414
Did you mean Jim Raynor?

>>14918406
>secret imouto
Is that going to be an actual thing?

>>14918439
Why not, it's not like the show has many ways to introduce new characters besides "new sibling that probably wasn't brought up before".

>>14918451
>"new sibling that probably wasn't brought up before".
this isn't a big deal for me, its how they did it. "hey i actually have a brother. I lost him years ago."

20 seconds later, oh there he is.

for example the Cagalli/Kira sibling thing wasn't half bad.

>>14918480
His brother didn't even have the same last name.

>>14918457
Kira/Cagali was pretty bad.

>>14918480
>Well with Akihiro that sorta made sense, he's just then starting to adjust to the idea that he can BE a Human BEING again, not just Debris...
The problem is that he conveniently appears the next episode only to die for some shitty character development.

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Nina 2.0

>>14917114
Kudelia is defiantly a Filthy Kike

>>14919246
she hast betray tekkadan yet

>>14919317
“yet” is the key word, you can’t trust the Jovian Mafia!

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>>14919497
>yagami
man that is literally nothing the character.

but soon as we get that fuckboi's background he's gonna die. just look at aston and takaki.

>>14919501
He's more fleshed out as a character than McGillis actually.

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>>14919618
you can't be serious dude.

>>14919636
I am serious.

>>14919317
She'll betray Orga by fucking him when he least expects it pegging

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>>14919643
the gay mechanic that had 3 lines of dialog in s1 has more character depth than the main villain? your head canon is strong then.

>>14919649
Yeah, pretty much, if you consider the main villain is a even flatter character. So far McGillis has been nothing but a mouthpiece in service of the plot and exposition as well as serving as deux ex machina at the end of S1. Yamagi has more character building than him, hell, we don't even know why McGillis is doing any of this because he thus far had no motivation establishing scene. All McGillis ever does is monologuing in the same monotone voice delivering exposition. Meanwhile we've seen Yamagi have different moods, go through different emotions, we know a good bit of his likes and dislikes, character quirks (sensitive nose, sensitive to nature, the meat thing), he even went through a bit of character development by going from very shy to more outspoken.
What do you even know about McGillis? Why does he hate his dad? Why does he strive to override Gjallarhorn? There's nothing there, literally nothing.

>>14917410
I'm really enjoying DIU, getting into JoJo's was a good choice

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>gundam frame?
>valkyrie frame?
>graze frame?
>new frame?

>>14919747
looks dumb... unless its like that one Mortar headd.

>>14919747
Maybe it's one of the landman rodis being modified after Takaki dies in it.

>>14919786
i'll be disappointed if takaki dies. he'll die for the solo purpose of drama. at least biscuit's death gave "large" character development to most the cast.

>>14919807
Well somebody has to die and I'd rather not be it Aston because that's such a downer to kill a human debris at the cusp of regaining humanity. Why do you even care? Takaki hasn't contributed anything worthwhile to the show and has been a whiny bitch through all of this earth plot. So annoying.
Earth branch was a mistake.

>>14919823
>Takaki hasn't contributed anything worthwhile to the show
like 90% of the characters.
has been a whiny bitch through all of this earth plot
and takaki himself has called himself out on that.

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>>14919823
god forbid I don't want a character i've liked since s1 to die for forced drama.

>>14919832
And imagine that out of all those Takaki is the most disposable.

>and takaki himself has called himself out on that.
Oh great, nothing better than the self loathing attitude for which we all love Kudelia so much.

>>14919838
>Takaki is the most disposable.
not really, he is the leader of the earth branch right now.

>>14919839
>temporary leader immediately usurped by mercenary

>>14919837
>liking Takaki
There's always that one faggot who likes cold, slimy noodles in his throat I guess.

>>14919839
And doing such a terrible job at it even his old mates are starting to deflect and seek guidance in beard man. Which is weird considering those other guys are starting to see through his bullshit even before Takaki.

>>14919849
3 full weeks of combat and he was leading them well enough.
>>14919851
no one was second guessing beard man. only aston and takaki seemed to second guessing this war.

>>14919863
>no one was second guessing beard man
The other nameless Tekkadans were. Not Takaki and definitely not Aston who flat out said he doesn't even care who gives the orders.

>>14919863
>>14919870
you're both wrong. Nameless takkadans were complaining on how long the war was and if they were winning. Takaki doesn't know what to think but he believes Beard man will keep them safe. however both nameless dudes and takaki know the war feels off.

>>14919747
Legs and waist say a very interesting Graze frame.

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>>14919646
SOON

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>>14919747
There is also this one, a shiden?

>>14916028
Ive been thinking about thi for a while.

At the beginning of the new season, Mcgillis said he had someone on mars he could trust, though he admitted he wasnt a friend. im betting that he meant Mikazuki since, during the meeting on the station he tried making small talk with him like "are you doing well" while Mika was looking at the floor.

For some reason, i get the hunch that Mcgillis intends to betray/ have Orga killed at some point since he realises that Mika is baisically a drone and follows Orgas will (how much he knows is another matter) and will use Orga's death to make Mikazuki into his own personal soldier.

just a thought.

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>>14919497
Best homo. I hope the Takaki/Aston thing fills in the dead homo quota in their stead so they don't have to bite it.

>>14920344
Could be a variant of that next gen graze. It has similar feet by the look of it.

>>14920430
>i get the hunch that Mcgillis intends to betray
wow, we have a real fucking brainiac here

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>>14919747

Asmodeus/Zagan

>>14920344

New grunt type possibly

You'd think that 300 years in the future, they'd have WhatsApp or Twitter or something to communicate so Takaki could just text Orga like "yo, radice acting shady"

Communication between planets passes along a relay. Presumably Rustal would be monitoring and blocking any such messages, if said relay even allows social media updates between planets and isn't regulated to major business's and comm traffic. In S1 they sent messages back to mars by hacking into the relays.

>>14920691
Meant for >>14920679

Still filler, huh?

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>>14920946
Low quality filler

>>14920949
Iron Menstruation will always be most lowliest quality

So yeah, IBO is like bad and it tarnishes the gundam legacy and stuff. I can't do it anymore ;_;

>>14920967
Yes.

>>14919781
Looks like Ashura Temple from gothicmade.

>>14920556
Man this mech was so cool. It really needed more screen-time.

I hope they haven't forgot about him in this 2nd Season. Or worse, make him job when he shows up.

>>14921216
Obviously Gali used his secret chest weapon on it and made it go poof

>>14921220
Fuck Gali. He's a Bizon-tier cuck.

>>14921216
McGillis will dust it off in time for the final fight with Mika.

It will be a Angel vs Demon thing like Berserk but even more shitty.

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>>14921583
>smug lolis

Why do they find joy in bullying? It will forever be a mystery

>>14920949
cant be helped. That stupid tsunami in 2011 caused raised taxes on the anime industry in order to re build.

Its also why anime seasons are 25 episodes instead of 50.

>reminder that you can't tease IBO now because it has a 20 minute battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReVE6FXo_vI

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>>14920996
The cutest

>>14922612
It only took them 27 episodes to get the hint.

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>>14921420

More than likely a Valkyrie in McGillis' case if the Grimgerde was any indicator.

His choice of MS pretty much proves he thinks he's "above" the nomenclature and history of the demons in this series.

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>>14916028
I need help, guys.
Please tell me name of these 3 mechs.
Thanks in advance.

>>14922998
puru

>>14923025
Watch the intro.

Galan is shaping up to be best character so far, they could have foreshadowed him being a villain though

>>14923025
Left to right:
>Hloekk Graze
>Gilda
>Geirail Scharfrichter

>>14916118
>1pl8 for 10000 reps

you tried japan

>>14916329
>Kill your two most loyal and influential subordinates
>Expect to be able to hold any degree of authority without friends

MacGillis is a fucking tard. Pretty much Tekkadan in a suit.

>>14916329
>made Macgillis look like a strategic mastermind

not really. all he did was take advantage of his friendships to trick 2 ppl

>>14924597
To be fair, Mcgillis looks at the much larger picture whilst Ein and gali are both one tracked minded and would of done little to actually help him since both only cared about what they themselves wanted and even turned blind eyes to Gallihorns actions when it suited them.

Gali could not take a defeat from Mika and allowed his Ego/pride to take over and it made him obsessed with evening the score since he could not take the loss. He always blamed Tekkadan for everything even though it was Gallahorn that always made the first move to attack (like Carta did) and Tekkadan responded by fighting back. Damn near everything Gali did was for his pride and even though he knows about Gallahorn Corruptions, he never hesitated to move if it meant getting what he wanted.
His attacking Mika during the Dort massacre is proof of this since he knows it was wrong, he was so occupied with vengence that he didnt miss the chance. And when Carta died, it cemented his way of thinking

Ein, while more sympathetic, refused to even try to realize that his first mission involved killing multiple children and his underestimating them is what lead to his superiors defeat. it might of helped if Crank actually told Ein his intentions but since he didnt, Ein just wanted revenge and didnt care about the greater good if it meant he could killing children.

It would of been a waste of time trying to make these two into anything useful

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AYAYAY HELP ME

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>>14924837
AHHH MIKAZUKI-SAN HELP ME

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>>14924843
Coño de mierda

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>>14924845
*Barbatos se ve bien*

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>>14924847

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>>14924849

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>>14924850

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>>14924852

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>>14924854

>>14916224
Yes, if nothing happens the last two episodes are going to look silly and melodramatic.

>>14924837
What if he's not really scared but freaked out at seeing Mika wrecking SEU forces up close?

>>14924847
Lupus looking good

Hush Midi got to be the face on the shiden gunpla box.

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>>14924837
This shit guy is a bishoune faggot like Slaine

>>14918045
>>14918138
Don't forget the obligatory "WHY?!".

Same goes for that other guy.

>>14924837
>I NEED TO TAKE A SHIT REAL BAD

>>14924837
Slaine 2.0

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Best girl

>>14924977
IS that bad? Slaine ended up taking control of an entire castle and became a prominent combatant after a while.

He probobly just got first time jitters and realised the difference between training and real life or death combat.

>>14925084
through a big asspull magic.

>>14924777

In regards to Gaelio knowing about what Gjallarhorn's actions, wasn't he disgusted with the Dort massacre? Same with his treatment of Ein later on?

>>14925087
Still happened. And if both Takaki and his bro survive despite the whole 'doom and gloom' narrative then we got an ass pull right there. Not a major one but still. While i would prefer they and Chad to live, something needs to happen to suit Takakis "we are being swept away" narrative.

>>14925095
He was originally, thats why he didnt want to take part in it. My point is that Galio was so fixated on defeating Mika for his own ego that as soon as Mika appeared, he admitted the circumstance was wrong for it but refused to let the chance for revenge slip by, proving he's willing to put up with the corruption unless theres something in it that suits him.

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>>14924855

>Gusion's V-fin flips to fit the enclosed head during it's transformed and non-transformed states

Something like this is so minor and yet i appreciate it so much.

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>>14924855
well someone stole my job
goddamn mexicans

>>14925087
It was a show centered around asspull magic.

>>14925128
>He was originally, thats why he didnt want to take part in it. My point is that Galio was so fixated on defeating Mika for his own ego that as soon as Mika appeared, he admitted the circumstance was wrong for it but refused to let the chance for revenge slip by, proving he's willing to put up with the corruption unless theres something in it that suits him.

He still didn't take part in subduing the workers, nor did he ignore corruption after the incident.

>>14925351
>nor did he ignore corruption after the incident.
He pretty much did: he turned a blind eye to it, and was complicit in the assault on people who defended the workers.

>>14924852
we going to watch the man rodi get smashed again like in s1?
>>14924854
wonder if he'll style all over beard man?
>>14924855
so will he actually do anything? Guts hasn't done jack on screen in a long time.

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>>14925289
I love you

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>>14925500
what a waste of double dubs

>>14925354
>did: he turned a blind eye to it, and was complicit in the assault on people who defended the workers.
You mean like McGillis?

>>14925515
McGillis wasn't involved in the operation in any way like Gealio. He was minding his own business and laughing his ass off at Gealio's stupidity. The difference is nobody's claiming McGillis' is noble.

>>14925530
>McGillis wasn't involved in the operation in any way like Gealio.
Gealio wasn't, he didn't stop. McGillis was actually on the ground and did nothing, in fact if Kudelia hadn't run from him things wouldn't have ended well

>The difference is nobody's claiming McGillis' is noble.
His whole motive is being better than everyone else and fixing the system

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>>14925502
yeah

>>14925089
Praise the Meat.

Long may it fry.

>>14925089
>>14925719
His appearances sure are rare, but his character is well done

>>14916262
i am sure Macgillis has a good plan

>>14925620
>McGillis wasn't involved in the operation in any way like Gealio.
Mcgilly was posing as Montage at the time. Whats more, he had no real power or influence in the matter since it was the Arinhord fleet that was taking charge. the same fleet under the supreme commander that Mcgillis wants to surpass right now. Seems in the first ep, it seemed like Mcgillis knew something evil about him when he gave him an angry look

Galio also had no real power, but he still jump in the chaos as soon as it meant killing Mika.

>The difference is nobody's claiming McGillis' is noble.
Not to him. Mcgillis is hell bent on purging the corruption and acknowledged that all he has inside him is anger. He never said anything about being noble or just, but so far it comes across as he wants to do the right thing but is willing to make the necessary sacrifices to do it, even if it hurts him.

>>14925351
He still went in the chaos anyway even knowing the circumstance was wrong for it, all because he wanted payback.

So much for taking the true moral high ground.

>>14925756
>Mcgilly was posing as Montage at the time
Putting on a shitty mask and wig means literally nothing to what I said.
>Galio also had no real power
Then you can't use that as an excuse

>acknowledged
Never does this. He just says corruption is bad while being a shit

>>14925771
McGillis says he doesn't feel anything anymore when he killed Gaelio.

"Killed" anyway.

>>14925771
If your goal is to defend Gaelio's status as a highly moral individual you should avoid tactics like stringing McGillis in to make Gaelio look better by comparison. That's not really gonna get you far, because literally nobody is building this kind of image around McGillis. I personally judge Gaelio actions badly, sketchy at best. And his prime motivation of revenge and using his position to pull strings in a corrupted organisation doesn't really put him on a high moral pedestal in my book.

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>>14924855
>>14925220
What is the purpose of Gusions facial transformation feature anyways? Too look cool?
Because either way I really like it.

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>>14925961
love the face man. but its probably rule of cool.

>>14926039
Wow. He has a nose now?

>>14925961
is the mask opening associated with the extra set of arms coming out or does it just happen when he wants to go "beast mode"?

It could be some sort of limiter, not sure what its limiting.

at the end of the day you would never want extra moving parts so its probably just to look cool.

>>14925961

>closed
long range

>open
cqc

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>>14925961
Why does it's face look different in every picture?

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>>14926123
Barbatos Lupus is really starting to grow on me.

>>14925289
wonder how fast this guy and his buddy are going to die?

>>14926136
Build the HG. The proportions are sublime.

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>>14926158
Well Aston was only even introduced in the Brewers arc, then promptly disappeared until now, when they've been heavy-handedly having him as the dear friend to Takaki who has dinner with him and his sister and talks about laying down his life, then gets chastised for being too reckless and thinking of himself as Human Debris. He's recieved NO attention otherwise. Also this shot in the op. And the episode is titled 'My Friend'.

So probably near the end of the ep as soulful dramatic moment to close on.

>>14925756
McGillis just says what whoever he is talking to wants to hear.

>>14926311
It's Takaki who's dying, precisely for the reasons you listed. Aston is there to witness Takaki's dramatic exit, otherwise there'd be no one relevant to play the part. They'll update the OP with the same shot only he's alone with Fuka.

>>14925798
Being sketchy would make him the moral paragon of IBO.

>>14926482
Nah, Aston's going to die and it's going to hurt Akihiko that one of the kids that took his name is wormfood.

>>14925771
>McGillis wasn't involved in the operation in any way like Gealio.
>Mcgilly was posing as Montage at the time
>Putting on a shitty mask and wig means literally nothing to what I said.

Mcgillis putting on the shitty mask was because he knew he could do nothing as Mcgillis to stop what was going to happen, so in response he posed as Montage to extend an olive branch to Kudelia and Tekkadan by warning Kuelia of what was about to happen, revealing that Fumitan was a traitor who was putting her life in danger and making a deal with Tekkadan to get them to Earth in exchange for a part of half mineral rights on mars.

Mcgliss took this as the start of his betting on Tekkadan to have them aid him in exposing the corruption of Gallahorn.
His mask was because everyone else thought he was on vacation at the time, and the likelihood that Tekkadan or Kudelia might know him some way and be less likely to accept a deal with him.

So Mcglissis actually did do something in response to Gallahorns Massacre, and that was helping Tekkaden in their future endeavors to expose Gallahorn manipulating politics in Canada

>Galio also had no real power
>Then you can't use that as an excuse
Fuck yes i can. Mcillis actually did all of the above in response to Gallahorns actions and his own ambitions to expose them so he can rebuild them. whilst sad little Galio simply went with the flow, growling when something he didnt agree with happened, but put up with it instead of doing anything about it like mcgillis/montag did.

>>14925961
>>14926055

I'm guessing it just switches the active camera(s) from the eyes to the forehead and vice versa. Regular eyes give more peripheral vision for CQC and the forehead for long-distance accurate shooting.

>>14926485
Not anymore, now he's siding with psychopatic killer Rustal who's throwing countries he's supposed to protect into a war for his private interest. And again, Gali is complicit in it with the same, selfish revenge motive. The guy just never learns and he keeps stepping in the same shit while losing the shreds of ethics he had left.

>>14925771
>Never does this. He just says corruption is bad while being a shit
Dude he LITERALLY said
"Friendship, love, trust. Such soft hearted emotions will not reach me, as all my life i have lived in anger"
get it now? he knows he's not a good guy and if anything he doing all this for some sort of revenge against his dad and other factions of Gallahorn that have yet to be revealed.

>>14926494
Nah, Takaki's dying which will inspire Aston to value his life after his friend died so heroically for his sake. He'll also learn what Tekkadan family is really like ect. They won't torture Guts, they'll torture the imouto.

>>14925790
I wonder about "killed" myself.

When Mcgillis first called Orga to subdue the pirates, he mentioned that their association was a 'Well known secret'.
That lead me to believe he spared Galio and is aware he told the Arinhood fleet everything about his workings with Tekkadan. After all, who else with that knowledge would tell them? the only ones who actually knew he was part of Gallahorn where Biscuit, Mika, Orga and Galio. With Biscuit dead, and Mika and Orga having no reason to play nice with Arinhood, who else was capable of blabbing?

>>14926512
would they really waste a large side character from s1 to just do something for a throw away character like Aston?

seriously? outside this arc Aston can't/won't do much of anything. he isn't smart, he's not a super pilot like the others, he can't bring much of anything in character personality and he isn't cute.

>>14926074
It has to do with the same reason why barbatos sometimes look different (like in >>14924847) The different animators have different ways of drawing them.

>>14926534
That depends in what they want to accomplish, one would said killing Takaki would have way more weigh that Killing Aston, he is a literally who next to Takaki simply a little better than killing the background Tekkdan member, anyway both are minor support characters, both are killable so I’m fine with any of them I simply hope they actually kill one or both

>>14926534
> throw away character like Aston?
Aston has more potential for growth from this. Takaki is designed to be static, lingering in the sweet spot of being relevant enough to warrant actual drama and not being relevant enough to have any significant achievements or merch push. Even though killing off "throw-away" characters is easy Aston would still be a bigger waste.

> he isn't smart, he's not a super pilot like the others
Takaki is neither of these things either! He has less MS piloting experience than Aston, isn't educated, and his role in S1 was basically being a nanny and delivering messages. When it comes to the earth branch Aston is their Ace.

>he can't bring much of anything in character personality and he isn't cute.
He already brought in a much more poignant and touching story with his human debris past than Takaki with his sugary family diorama and irritating, saccharine personality.

>>14926618
>Aston has more potential for growth from this
neither takaki or aston have room to truly grow. its just aston has less.
>Takaki is neither of these things either!
>S1 was basically being a nanny and delivering messages.
he's clearly smarter than aston. he took up Biscuits mantel in the end of s1. and was clearly second or third in power at Tekkadan earth branch. so clearly he is no idiot.
>MS piloting experience than Aston
we've never seen takaki pilot a mech.

>He already brought in a much more poignant and touching story with his human debris past than Takaki with his sugary family diorama and irritating, saccharine personality.
huh? not really, both are rather dull/cliche but this series beats our heads in with human debris don't get happy endings

>>14926583
It's not that. Look closely. The pattern of the face mask is different not just in style, but design. It's like they didn't use the same reference art. Maybe it was just an animation error that they didn't catch.

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>Biscuito and his brother die
>Leave behind two sad imoutos
>Gaelio dies
>Leaves behind sad imouto
>Takaki probably dying next ep
>Will leave behind sad imouto

How many onii-chans are gonna have to die before the series ends?

>>14926694
>its just aston has less.
Nah, Aston has more room to grow if only because he's started at a much lower point.
>he's clearly smarter than aston. he took up Biscuits mantel in the end of s1.
He has not, he isn't Orga's right-hand man, advisor or any kind of tactician/strategist. And his influence in Tekkadan is mostly due to personal connections. The only thing he and Biscuit had in common was them both having cute sisters.
>we've never seen takaki pilot a mech.
Because he's hardly ever piloted one. He's hardly ever piloted a MW even.
>but this series beats our heads in with human debris don't get happy endings
Unless it's human debris adopted by Tekkadan, those always get ahead in life. Like Dante making his dream come true, Chad getting a promotion or Guts getting over his brother, piloting a gundam and having a cute girl flirt with him all the time. And speaking of Guts, having his adopted little brother killed off before his eyes would be a 1:1 repeat from the first season, which is all the more why I don't think they'll do it.

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>>14926797
>Aston has more room to grow if only because he's started at a much lower point.
this is IBO, you'd have a point in most other shows.

>>14926797
>having his adopted little brother killed off before his eyes would be a 1:1 repeat from the first season
>which is all the more why I don't think they'll do it.
they pulled the same shit with Takaki too in s1. get to know he has a sister, wants to send her to school, tries his best to be best big bro he can. same shit this season too.

>>14926791
After this there are not siblings left, unless we are introduced to a new one

>>14926819
Dude, you're reaching. We've known he's had a sister for quite some time now, that's just the continuation of his life. Guts crying over a little brother is an actual repetition.

>>14926829
>that's just the continuation of his life
and that makes it less valid?

>Guts crying over a little brother is an actual repetition.
aston isn't a bother and you know he'll cry over the 12 or so nameless dudes that already died.

>>14926823
>not knowing juli is choco's little sister

>>14926840
>aston isn't a bother and you know he'll cry over the 12 or so nameless dudes that already died.
He's an adopted brother who took Guts' last name as his own and someone who has known Masahiro, obviously connection there is stronger. The scene where he's shown caring about Chad's status is also there to show he feels strongly about fellow debris in general. Him crying about yet another brother figure is a way more obvious repetition than general elements of Takaki's life continuing onto S2.

>and that makes it less valid?
How is it valid?

>>14926866
>How is it valid?
you don't see life continuing being a large driving force? he has way more to loose than aston
>>14926866
>The scene where he's shown caring about Chad's status is also there to show he feels strongly about fellow debris in general.
and yet he still views himself as a lowly human debris that can die at any time. takaki yells at him multiple times. maybe if takaki dies he'll stop doing that but at that point he'll fall back into pointless background character 5 and do nothing as hush and mika take center stage.

>Him crying about yet another brother figure is a way more obvious repetition than general elements of Takaki's life continuing onto S2.
both are repetitious. either coming to pass is a repeat of s1. only difference is if its takaki to bite the bullet they actually went through and killed him unlike s1 where he survived.

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Are either of them going to die? Considering at the end of last season they didn't kill off Shino, Lafter or Azee, I'm not too sure.

Have enough death flags been raised?

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>>14926951
>Have enough death flags been raised?
you mean takaki and aston? yeah last 3 episodes nothing but death flags for them.

will they actually do it? who knows.

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>>14926953
I was being more flip with that.

I just have a hard time believing they'll kill em, it's all too likely they have a moment of OMG we are gonna die, commercial break and then the calvary arrive to save em.

Especially with the end of last season which is the time for killings it was only Carta and Ein who died off the top of my head.

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>>14926974
>it was only Carta and Ein who died off the top of my head.
everyone forgets biscuit died.... he was a major character. and porn bait Fumitan too.

but I agree I think they'll chicken out too. they could have killed Chad off and none of the viewers would have cared. yet Chad's death would hold some emotion in series so why they didn't? chicken'd out

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>>14926980
I consider those two more midseason deaths myself, with Biscuit's death triggering the end season.

Chad's situation is pretty weird and I think he might have a bad end, possibly along the lines of being turned or experimented on, the imouto might be tied into too and that might be where the real tension of the current earth situation comes into play for Tekkadan.

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>>14926980
>everyone forgets biscuit died

The moment you realize people care about villain's death because they're more likable than the heroes.

>>14927005
I can't say I liked Carta, or that she had any real charismatic charm.

I definitely felt bad for her, though. It's all fun and games until the idiot gets herself killed, and then oof right in the feels.

>>14926953
A reminder that "Broken Flower" is Biscuit's death theme on the OST.

>>14926951
They didn't kill them because it was one ep before the season finale and their deaths weren't foreshadowed. Ein just showed up and rekt their MS. Meanwhile there's more than enough time to chew on the tragedy and it's been three eps of nothing but heavy-handed build up for doom.

>>14927005
No such thing, I couldn't give a single fuck about either Ein or Carta. Especially Ein, god that faggot got on my nerves.

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>>14927034
>their deaths weren't foreshadowed
and?
>he actually thinks characters need foreshadowing to kill them off
what is this, your first anime?

>>14927000
I'm kind of hoping Chad has some sort of permanent injury. It'd be werid if he hadn't considering a bomb exploded in his face.

>>14927043
You're either stupid or completely disconnected from the show you're watching. You should have known by now how IBO deals with these things.
>and?
And they didn't kill them, moron. IBO gives deathflags period. Blatant ones even, and even then it's uncertain if the character will actually die.

>>14927045
>becomes a cripple
>sees himself as useless, can't look Orga in the eye anymore
>kills himself, wall behind him covered in his blood saying "ORUFENZU NAMIDA"

>>14923025
man, I wonder if Gyoubu is living vicariously through IBO putting all his side designs he made for G-Reco and slipping them in

>>14926980
They can't chicken out after dumping all that imagery of impending doom. Why would they waste three episodes full of sakuga on tertiary characters then?

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>>14927045
I hope he becomes super disillusioned and cynical.

>>14924777
>Mcgillis looks at the much larger picture
That's what the show wants us to believe but the method he uses is still incredibly dumb. He'd rather rely on these wildcard "children" already embroiled with the space mafia to help secure change from this corrupt regime. Not the two people who loved and believed in him, who were already a part of said organization and therefore in a better position to become useful allies.

>>14927090
They've been going so overboard with the death flags of those characters its gotten to the point that i think its a red herring.

>>14927107
Red herring as in somebody unexpected dies or nobody dies at all?

>>14927114
Yup pretty much either of those options

>>14927096
How many times are you going to repeat this?

>>14927129
That was my first post in this thread.

>>14927096
Its not dumb at all.
The people in his organization already prove they are willing to put their pride/ego above their own sense of right and wrong.

THe children soldiers are the victims of the corruption and witness it first hand and are therefore already fighting against it. they've seen that Gallahorn has no quarrels in killing children

evidence is first episode when the leader goes on rampage, then again when the Superior that wanted Kudelia dead actually was more frustrated that his plan was foiled by children and didnt care that they'd actually die, not to mention that Galio and Ein where more interested in defeating Mika despite the fact that Gallahorn was trying to Kill kudelia who simply asked for independence.
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Getting rid of Political rivals is a sign of corruption, real life reference would be the likes of North Korea and Russia who kill anyone with a different opinion.

And then witnessing the massacre at the dorts, instead of refusing to take any part of it whatsoever, they quickly joined in the chaos as soon as Mika appeared.

Those two, Carta included, are not reliable. if anything, they've proven they will co exist with the corruption so long as they can get their vengence on children for making fools out of them. Not exactly the sort of people you'd want if you truly wish to rid corruption of any sort. they are not valuable allies, if anything they represent the willingness to allow corruption.


So if no one in gallahorn is trustworthy, why not the victims of the corruption who managed to fight back and actually prosper despite always being attack by much greater forces? Its because they defeat the overwhelming forces lead by Carta and Galio that probobly pisses them off the most since they consider the children as mere rabble, whilst Mcgillis looks past their upbringings and sees the potential.

>>14927107
Nah, they also made it a much more personal story than the SEU vs Arbrau plot required and it needs a culmination. Killing off some random other character for shock value would be completely pointless and kinda dumb. Not killing anybody is a lot more sensible, but again, what was the point of all that.

>>14926857
Is Gaelio going to make her his wife as part of his revenge then?

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>>14925631
Why does Gaelio make such a great girl?

>>14926897
>he has way more to loose than aston
You're just proving my point there. Takaki's death - better drama, bigger stakes, bolder move on the writers part but not devastating enough if they killed off Eugene/Shino/Akihiro. Aston death - same old same old.

>and yet he still views himself as a lowly human debris that can die at any time
Yeah, that's the point of his character arc - learning to value his own life and building his individuality.
>but at that point he'll fall back into pointless background character 5 and do nothing as hush and mika take center stage.
As will Takaki, so this isn't really an argument.

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>>14927293

>>14927152
>THe children soldiers are the victims
This does not change they are wild cards

> they've seen that Gallahorn has no quarrels in killing children
You mean like that time Mcgillis tried to kill Mika?

> not to mention that Galio and Ein where more interested in defeating Mika
Wanting to take out their main combatant is not bad or corrupt, especially if it helps getting the main goal done. Meanwhile Mcgillis actively works against the goal for his own ends

>Getting rid of Political rivals is a sign of corruption
Which McGillis does, when they were fighting for him no less meaning he has less trustworthy people to work with. That is a stupid plan

> instead of refusing to take any part of it whatsoever
McGillis also did nothing to stop it just wanting to take Kudelia which would have meant the fighting didn't stop and he was working against the organisation

> they've proven they will co exist with the corruption so long as they can get their vengence
Again, same as McGillis apart from he is actively corrupt. Plus in their cases what they wanted to do was for the Ghorn it just happened they'd get pay back as well, this is not like they purposefully fucked up a plan to get vengeance

Your points apply to him the most, and if all true it means he can't trust anyone in it and can never get anything done cause they are corrupt

>>14926496
The reasoning for his actions in your post is entirely made up. The show only presents it as this was always his plan and not in response to recent actions and cause he thinks the kids are great, just pawns

>>14925756
>acknowledged that all he has inside him is anger.
Saying I'm angry and a bad guy doesn't some how change what is actions are and make it okay to be a shit. Especially when your whole goal is around stopping corruption.

>>14927318
>THe children soldiers are the victims
>This does not change they are wild cards
does not change that Gallahorn continues to harrass them

> they've seen that Gallahorn has no quarrels in killing children
>You mean like that time Mcgillis tried to kill Mika?
Except he didnt? he was only toying/testing him the whole time. And he also didnt hold any grudge against it?

> not to mention that Galio and Ein where more interested in defeating Mika
>Wanting to take out their main combatant is not bad or corrupt, especially if it helps getting the main goal done. Meanwhile Mcgillis actively works against the goal for his own ends
Except that Ein was more than willing to kill Kudelia? and Galio was willing to mutilate Ein into mecha ein for the sole purpose of giving him the means of getting Revenge? Except that they were willing to go into the Dort Massacre to even the score though they knew it was wrong?


>Getting rid of Political rivals is a sign of corruption
>Which McGillis does, when they were fighting for him no less meaning he has less trustworthy people to work with. That is a stupid plan
I partially give you this, because he did it to Carta, but again, she was part of the Ghallahorn corruption and he sold her out after she had already attacked them by using her influence to attack Tekkadan despite the Oceanic federation wanting to protect them.
However, she was not a true political rival in that she stood against him, but rather she had too much pride and her own actions resulted in her own undoing, Mcgillis is not shown to of planned these actions out (though it can be assumed)
Also, Tekkadan is more Trustworthy since they are more direct in their actions, whilst Gallahorn is the one with 2 faced politicians.Main point, Tekkadan is not savvy enough to play Politics, which Naze himself has said, so they're more trustworthy in that they're less likely to be corrupt or to even get away with it.

>>14927386
>does not change that Gallahorn continues to harrass them
Yes they attacked enemy combatants more than willing to kill. Again changes nothing, they are wildcards and embroiled in space mafia

>he was only toying/testing him the whole time
No he wasn't

>Except that Ein was more than willing to kill Kudelia?
Taking out an enemy leader who was a serious problem? Good
>Galio was willing to mutilate Ein into mecha
Yeah Mcgillis plan to stop the enemy, at worst it makes both complicit in a corrupt action with McGillis doing it to secure power while Gailo wants to help a friend

>Except that they were willing to go into the Dort Massacre
McGillis did as well, he was on the ground as it happened. Plus Ein and Gailo only fought with the orphans which was their job to do so

>However, she was not a true political rival in that she stood against him,
It is part of destabilizing the system

>>14927318

> instead of refusing to take any part of it whatsoever
>McGillis also did nothing to stop it just wanting to take Kudelia which would have meant the fighting didn't stop and he was working against the organisation
OVERWHELMINGLY WRONG
The Arinhood fleet was in command of the operation, meaning the Supreme commander was in command, the same one that Mcgillis is Currently trying to surpass in power and thats AFTER all the Mcgillis had gained after betraying Carta, Galio and his Father for power. If Mcgillis, with all that power in his hands right now, acknowledges that he is still lacking against the commander, then what sort of power did he have when the Dort massacre went into effect? None! he couldn't do a damn thing since he lacked the rank and influence so he resorted to shitty mask.
As for wanting to take Kudelia... How? he had her in his arms and could of taken her right then and there, instead he warned her about her sponser, the maid and told her to survive for the future.
This was the point when he must of truly started to bet on Tekkadan and Kudelia to get things done.

> they've proven they will co exist with the corruption so long as they can get their vengence
>Again, same as McGillis apart from he is actively corrupt. Plus in their cases what they wanted to do was for the Ghorn it just happened they'd get pay back as well, this is not like they purposefully fucked up a plan to get vengeance
Them doing what they did for the sake of Gallahorn is why he want their help in the end and chose Tekkadan. Why bother trusting people who fight for the orginisation you want to break down and rebuild?

>>14927152
>THe children soldiers are the victims of the corruption and witness it first hand and are therefore already fighting against it. they've seen that Gallahorn has no quarrels in killing children
This doesn't change my point that he could've used Carta and Gaelio to help on the Gallahorn side of things. Yes Tekkadan is already fighting the system but they're also unpredictable seeing as they refuse to be beholden to anyone they don't fully trust. Carta would've done anything for him and Gaelio was already following his lead, he just needed to learn to be more proactive outside of the battlefield.

You also seem to be ignoring how all of the background scheming misconstrues the motives of the characters from one another. Kudelia doesn't just look like an innocent girl asking for independence when she's enlisted a group of mercenaries who outright killed the one person who tried to deal with them civilly (Crank). The same group that provided fire power to what would've been an otherwise peaceful protest at Dort; to say nothing of her connection to Nobliss which existed even before all of this.

>>14927409
>then what sort of power did he have when the Dort massacre went into effect?
Then you can't blame any of them because none of them had that power at that time

>As for wanting to take Kudelia
She was delivered to him, he wanted her for his own ends. If you want to play your contrived bullshit to say everyone else there didn't do enough and was corrupt he fits the bill

>This was the point when he must of
No, shut up. Stop making stuff up.

>Why bother trusting people who fight for the orginisation you want to break down and rebuild?
He hasn't done this though, and the idea of rebuilding the entire more than global organisation from teh ground is stupid if not literally impossible. He will and does have to work with Gallahorn people, while also being the most corrupt person we see in the series

>>14927408

>Except that they were willing to go into the Dort Massacre
>McGillis did as well, he was on the ground as it happened. Plus Ein and Gailo only fought with the orphans which was their job to do so
They didnt do it because it was their job. The fat man in the ship told them it was okay for them to go out earlier and Galio refused and said the situation was what a "corrupted Gallahorn Does". It was only when Mika was out he decided to go and he could of easily said "nah, the situation for it is wrong" but instead was like "i wont let this chance pass". They went because they chose to, not because it was their job in this instance. Whether Mcgillis was there to take advantage of the situation or not is unlclear.


>Except that Ein was more than willing to kill Kudelia?
Even though Mcgilis and even Galio wanted her captured, not killed, so she could sing "songs of praises for them"? and that she was marked for death by Gallahorn to begin with to make her a martyr so Mars hatred to earth would strengthen and give Gallahorn free reign in supressing them like the dort incident? Her being killed was not to "get rid of the Enemy leader" it was to "Ensure a revolt we can put down". why do you think Eins superior was so dead set on killing her?

>However, she was not a true political rival in that she stood against him,
>It is part of destabilizing the system
which is why i said i partially give you that. But in the end, it was more Carta herself that got her killed, Mcgillis just took advantage of it.

>he was only toying/testing him the whole time
>No he wasn't
dude, he kinda was. It was when he revealed that the 72 Gundams created by Gallahorn usually turned up during turning points in history, and that one was now fighting for Kudelia who wanted mars independence that he smiled, then sortied. That kinda says he found an opportunity to push through for his plans in retrospect.

>>14927386
>Galio was willing to mutilate Ein into mecha ein for the sole purpose of giving him the means of getting Revenge?
Are you serious? It's obvious that he did not expect Ein to end up the way he did. He wanted Ein to get a new body so he could live. He only mentions the revenge because he knows that's what's most important to him. It makes Gaelio misguided at most.

>but again, she was part of the Ghallahorn corruption
Can you explain how in words other than "she had pride"? Also why do you assume that characters are in a permanent stasis where they can't possibly develop into something else?

>>14927439
>They didnt do it because it was their job.
>. It was only when Mika was out he decided to go
Did I forgot the scene where it was not his job to take out the orphans? No, he was doing his job taking out a what they see as a dangerous group which I will add just illgally smuggled guns

>Even though Mcgilis and even Galio wanted her captured, not killed
>marked for death by Gallahorn to begin with
There, doing his job

>Mcgillis just took advantage of it.
See one second you try to frame any tricky political stuff as evil, but the next it is fine when Mcgillis does it

>he kinda was
> he smiled
> That kinda says he found an opportunity to push through for his plans in retrospect.
These parts do not link up at all, you are trying way too hard.

>>14927436
>This was the point when he must of
>No, shut up. Stop making stuff up.
then explain why he paid Hitler to set pirates after them, only to become their ally soon after? even after the season ended, there was no reason to set pirates on them unless he didnt believe in Tekkadan, so other than aquiring Kudelia from them, what was the point?


>As for wanting to take Kudelia
>She was delivered to him, he wanted her for his own ends. If you want to play your contrived bullshit to say everyone else there didn't do enough and was corrupt he fits the bill
Delivered by who? again HE HAD HER IN HIS ARMS! stared her right in the eyes, told her she must survive and then let her go!
it was Kudelias fat ass sponser who wanted the maid to deliver Kudelia to the dorts to be massacred, not Mcgillis, Gillis had no one to deliver her to him, yet he found her and held her all the same. there is no connection for Mcgillis to fat ass sponsor so i dont get why you say she was delivered to him.


>then what sort of power did he have when the Dort massacre went into effect?
>Then you can't blame any of them because none of them had that power at that time
Do you pay attention? im not blaming them. Im proving that their actions they took are why Mcgillis did not trust them and why he went for the stupid plan to work with Tekkadan

>>14927457
>then explain why he paid Hitler to set pirates after them, only to become their ally soon after
Now this is an issue of framing. You are trying to set it up like he trusts and believes in them, when really they are just another pawn to use. He did not having some change of heart or go wow those orphans sure are useful, they were there and he could use them that is it. The show suggests nothing more.

>Delivered by who?
The maid, she leaves Kudelia with him after saying she is a dumb bitch (which she later goes back on for no reason)
> told her she must survive and then let her go!
Yeah great plan that was, let her wander round the city when a riot was about to start and she nearly got shot anyway. This part in no way helps you, it just makes him looking retarded. he wanted Kudelia, he for no reason lets her go which doesn't even secure a chance she will stop anything never mind just get fucked up.
> there is no connection for Mcgillis to fat ass sponsor
I never suggested any, you have a big problem of trying to see more where there is nothing

>Im proving that their actions they took are why Mcgillis did not trust them
And you are doing a very bad job at it as you drop and hop from point to point.

>>14927454
>There, doing his job
So your just goin to pick and choose what to respond to? nothing about killing he to ensure a massacre between planets?

>Did I forgot the scene where it was not his job to take out the orphans? No, he was doing his job taking out a what they see as a dangerous group which I will add just illgally smuggled guns
For starters, Galio is NEVER shown knowing that guns had been smuggled by Tekkadan, so why brin that up?
And no, it was not his job to take out orphans, in fact his job was being an inspector, i dont get why he had such freedom in chasing who he wanted, but it became his obsession which is what made him unlikly to be used by Mcgillis.
If Tekkadan was so dangerous then why was it only him and ein who hunted them down to start with? in S2 Tekkadan is still labelled as a "civilian Company" instead of Pirates or Terrorists, if they where that dangerous then why not send a fleet after them? or give Galio a fleet? Making it a two man job to hunt down a dangerous group is stupid.

>See one second you try to frame any tricky political stuff as evil, but the next it is fine when Mcgillis does it
Except i never said it was fine. This all started because you said Mcgillis had a shit plan for not working with his own people and instead choosing to work with Tekkadan. I also said that mcgillis wants revenge and that all he has in anger. I never said Mcgillis was a good guy, just that the plan you called stupid was in fact valid by what the show has shown. Mcgillis is corrupt in his own way for his own reasons.

>These parts do not link up at all, you are trying way too hard.
He was able to defeat Kimaris on one on one battle. He may of had a different suit at the time but compared to battling Kimiaris, which was ruthless, he was way too lenient on Barbatos in comparison.

>>14927469
Now this is an issue of framing. You are trying to set it up like he trusts and believes in them, when really they are just another pawn to use. He did not having some change of heart or go wow those orphans sure are useful, they were there and he could use them that is it. The show suggests nothing more.
HA! when he was in the montag ship, Tekkadan was making a break for Earth by breaking Carta's blockade. THE WHOLE TIME Mcgillis was all "show me! Show me your Potential" and even said it when Mika fell to Earth "You will show me wont you? Your Potential". You saying he expected all of this from the beginning? that he wanted Tekkadan to rise as it did? if anything he's just taking advantage of another situation since all the signs are in his favor so yea, he had a change of heart or he's just really really really good as planning the future.


>The maid, she leaves Kudelia with him after saying she is a dumb bitch (which she later goes back on for no reason)
The maid didn't work for him though, she worked for Nobliss. so again, delivered by who? the maid was supposed to set Kudelia to die, not to be delivered to Montag.

>Yeah great plan that was, let her wander round the city when a riot was about to start and she nearly got shot anyway. This part in no way helps you, it just makes him looking retarded. he wanted Kudelia, he for no reason lets her go which doesn't even secure a chance she will stop anything never mind just get fucked up.
So what was he going to do? kidnap her from Tekkadan and then give her back? he needed them to do the heavy lifting on earth so why antagonise them or better yet, antagonise the client. But i agree, it was stupid to let her go if he wanted her to live, but i just gather he didnt know she'd be in the crossfire of a massacre.
>I never suggested any, you have a big problem of trying to see more where there is nothing
You JUST SAID the MAID delviered Kudelia to Mcglillis, whilst the maid worked for Norbliss.

>>14927473
>nothing about killing he to ensure a massacre between planets?
He is a soldier, they follow their orders which is their job to do so.

>lio is NEVER shown knowing that guns had been smuggled
Never said he did, just that it supports they are criminals so the space police fighting them is not a bad thing

>And no, it was not his job to take out orphans,
> i dont get why he had such freedom in chasing
Contradict yourself why don't you, he was in charge of taking them on. if fighting them was not what he was supposed to do them he would be reprimanded for it

>in S2 Tekkadan is still labelled as a "civilian Company" instead of Pirates or Terrorists,
Bad writing is the most logical answer, it is way more fittng than the crazy links you make

> This all started because you said Mcgillis had a shit
To stop corruption, by being corrupt, by killing people that at best are a little less corrupt than him but also trust him but at least do their job without trying to sabotage the ghorn and will follow him which you need when trying to deal with such a huge entity. Yes that is a bad plan.

>He was able to defeat Kimaris on one on one battle.
>He may of had a different suit at the time
There you go, and no that did not make those other parts link up at all. You make these incredibly broad links

>>14927478
>show me! Show me your Potential
you mean after he helped them out, and no that just means do the thing I want you to do. Saying I think this group I helped will do the thing I want them to do is not "WOW I BELIEVE IN THE ORPHAN POWER SO MUCH"

>The maid didn't work for him though,
I never said she was working with him just that she left Kudelia with him. You are really bad at not understand things and taking them in wild directions. That she goes hey bird face man here is Kudelia does not mean she is in cahoots all along, people can have an interaction and does not mean they are a team. Or do you think she was just leaving her with the first stranger she saw?

>So what was he going to do? kidnap her from Tekkadan and then give her back
So she wasn't nearly murdered? Yeah that would have been a better plan
>so why antagonise the
By making sure she wasn't assassinated or just raped in the street?

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hi Valvrager, How are you?

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>>14927408
>Ein and Gailo only fought with the orphans which was their job to do so
It was never part of their job. Gjallarhorn never officially had any orders to attack Tekkadan starting all the way back on Mars. All the attacks were always the result of corrupted individual officers doing it for personal reasons. You could argue Carta's second attack was semi-official.

>>14927429
>Carta would've done anything for him
Carta would never fight alongside Tekkadan after being humiliated by them.

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>>14928068
You don't know that for one. And for another it's a 'what if' scenario. Events wouldn't necessarily play out the same way.