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Gundam Unicorn General

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Is it me or is it really hard understanding who is working for who and what everyone's motivations are in this. And Laplace's Box and the whole "conspiracy" is also very vague and confusing as hell.

Why is this so popular and highly-acclaimed again?
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>Why is this so popular and highly-acclaimed again?
muh zeons.
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>>14914078
>Why is this so popular and highly-acclaimed again?
Cool robots, great supporting cast, great soundtrack, deceptively simple plot (which means you're a legit dummy), great waifus, Char Clone with a surprisingly reasonable, albeit foolishly shortsighted endgame.
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>>14914078
>>14914093
>>14914187
Unicorn designs are great.
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>>14914078
One of the main shilling points for Unicorn was that it was the latest UC story in at least 20 years that dealt with the aftermath of Char's Counterattack since anything UC related that was released after the movie was meaningless side stories (0080, 0083, 8th MS Team, etc) or were too far into the future to be affected by CCA (F91, Victory)
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>>14914078
>Gundam Unicorn General
Since when this become a things here?
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>>14914721
Suddenly every series has a general for some reason.
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>>14914845
Probably because we have nothing new to discuss except IBO
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Best girl
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>>14914940
>always trying to start shit with Mineva/Audrey for some petty reason whenever she sees her which prevents her from being objective
>pretty much a lite female Riddhe
>cucked by said girl who she usually throws a bitch fit over and had to settle with Takuya "Who?" Irei while BANANA's dong gets to smash sweet royal Zeon pussy every night and she gets shit
>best girl
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>>14914078
>Why is this so popular and highly-acclaimed again?

Mecha porn
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>>14915406
The more i think about it the more eerily similar Banangher is to Amuro. He even has a Frau Bow.
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>>14915710
Looks like Hisashi Hirai drew her
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>>14915810
>The more i think about it the more eerily similar Banangher is to Amuro
That's because Banagher is Amuro, he's a new take on him.
You could argue this for most gundam MCs, but it really sticks out in Banagher
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why the fuck did they neo zeong?

wouldn't it be much nicer to se a sinanju vs unicorn stripping eachother's armor and then a climatic ending with newtype psychofield bullshittery?

why did they skip right into the newtype bullfuckery? why didn't we see sazabi fighting with the sweet double glaive?
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>>14915901
Going by the whole Unicorn=0079 repeat it makes sense it went that way.

Also by this point Full Frontal needed a machine that can keep up with the Unicorn.
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>it's another /m/ is too fucking dumb to understand Unicorn thread

jesus Christ
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>>14915911
give the sazabi some badass upgrade or something
splice some more psychoframe on that shit

and it makes NO sense in the unicorn=0079
in 0079 amuro and char skewered eachother to pieces
char didn't cram his beautiful mobile suit into a cube of metal and buttfuckery
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I don't get the praise either. It's genuinely boring as fuck. I suspect people only rated it high because of the animation and decent music but other than that, the story was stupid and the characters were insufferable.
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>>14915917
Yeah but he did pilot the Zeong. A machine far superior to the RX-78-2 Amuro was using at the time. So Full Frontal use the Neo Zeong a Mobile Armor docked with the Sinaju which made it the superior machine against the base unicorn.

But like the 0079 he got his ass kicked and both ended with machines fucked up.

Though traveling to the whole heat death of the universe thing, i have no idea about that one.
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>>14915948
>But like the 0079 he got his ass kicked
no, hell no
it was newtype LSD to a whole oher level. neither machine got fucked up, they just got to a hyperspace mind stuff and a TTGL could've very well popped up

>and both ended with machines fucked up.
except that the unicorn survived and used the newtype powers to make a shield

tl;dr I want more mecha porn.
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Just learned what Laplace's Box is supposed to be and my reaction is something along the lines of, "Are you fucking kidding me."
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>>14915970
I know right?

How would that change anything!

Too much blood has been spilled when the first colony dropped!

Zeon are still bigger baddies than the Feddies regardless.
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Am I the only one that thinks Banana is cute?
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>>14915988
Go away Mineva
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>>14915937
You again? Kill yourself, you fucking trash.
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>>14915833
Wait so if banana is amuro what does that make riddhe?
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>>14915996
why does this picture look like Marida is shoving a giant rubber fist into Riddhe asshole?
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>>14915901

According to Fukui and Furuhashi (writer and director) they wanted to have a finale where Full Frontal didn't fight Banagher, but tried to reason with him and talk him in to his point of view and the Neo Zeong was supposed to represent that desire - by being an intimidating machine that overwhelmed them and then allowed him to show his point of view.
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>>14916004
Because maridafags are really butthurt about Riddhe violating her so hard she died
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>>14916022
That could have easily been done during dialogue between a unicorn vs sinanju fight without the lazer light show and time travel shenanigans
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>>14914078
Because its one of the most beautiful series out there?

The mecha porn gave me literal chub, melting mobile suit getting splashed all over the place

Hhngggg

And the UC wank! Sexy Zeon and Feddy suit errywhere.

And Kshatrya
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>>14915810
Well at least Micott's backup dick isn't bad, Frau's though......
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>>14916313
>Micott
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>>14915937
The main character and the princess and the relationship between them were annoying plus childish. But I loved the animation, music, and best of all the fights. To top it off UC has awesome design.

I would say the positives outweigh the negatives.
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>>14914721
Look to >>14914863
Guess it's IBO and GITS for the next short while.

Also, the last few seasons of shitposting "X show sucks" is largely the only way to have a talk about that show, regardless if it start as bait. They're all 15% waifu pictures anyway. If you start a level headed thread in appreciation for a single (not so esoteric) show, it's usually boring. People who like show X don't actually like to discuss show X. So distention helps.
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>>14914078
>Why is this so popular and highly-acclaimed again?
Animation is top tier. Sound design and mech design are pretty top notch too. Even the token edgy suit is great.
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>>14915937
>the story was stupid and the characters were insufferable.

So, like all other Gundam series with the exception of Gundam 00.
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>Gundam 00
>Not one of the most insufferable casts of all
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>>14916961
shes so sexy
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I love Marilda
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>>14915810

> A recent Gundam protagonist follows the same mold as older gundam protagonists, including origin story similarity, character arc, rivals and supporting cast

You DONT SAY
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> A recent Gundam antagonist follows the same mold as older gundam antagonists, including origin story similarity, character arc, rivals and supporting cast

You DONT SAY
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Marilda best girl
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>>14918052
>Marilda best girl
yep
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This is the weakest UC Gundam other than ZZ. Horrible characters, a fucking autistic plot that throws itself under a bus for visual spectacle. It brought the bullshit peace princess trope to a cringe worthy level so betas can have fap material. Oh and that's throw in daddy issues for the main character so weeabs can relate better. It's does have great mech designs, and if it wasn't for thunderbolt I would say it had the best animation.
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Marilda best girl
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>>14920092
>>14921287
yeah, shes best girl
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>>14914093
>>14916961
>>14921287
>>14920092
>>14919139
>>14918667
shitty deviant art crap
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>>14915996
Poor writing.
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>>14921287
But she's not Loni.
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>>14922249
Well she had abortions
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>>14914078
OP Banahger is a dead fish
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>>14915901
The novel's big Sinanju fight was against Kshatriya, of all things... which FF lost badly after Marida rused him into thinking she was helpless after he sliced off the pepper's binders.

Spoiler alert: they still had funnels in them.

This seems to trigger one charfag anon very badly, since he keeps going on about 'murderwhores' any time novel Frontal getting schooled is brought up.
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Was the reason Banagher brought up ice cream written in because Puru liked ice cream in ZZ??

Did Amuro and Char finally get to spitroast Lalah???
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>>14924821
>>14924908
>>14924910
a pleasant design
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this woman is disgusting
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In episode 4, how come the Jesta pilots stop Kirks from killing himself, just to slash off the zaku's limbs and shoot the thrusters and have him fall to his death? It would be understandable to stop him from killing himself if they were to bring him in so he could stand trial, or even delivering the last blow themselves, but they just let him fall.

And I will never forgive Marida for wrecking the Delta Plus.
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>>14916313
Hayato's hung like a horse.
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>>14927167
They weren't trying to save his life, the Jesta pilots just didn't want him to cause a nuclear explosion. That was the point of Kirks stabbing itself with the beam sniper rifle and trying to reach for the trigger.

I find it sillier that the beam sniper rifle was strong enough that it could stab itself through the abdomen with it. It went through the front and back armor.
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>>14914078
It is cause of how the show presents it

Old people did a conspiracy, that is made very clear and doesn't get questioned leading to easy to understand stuff. They ignore the how and a bit of the why cause there is fuck all to that part and you don't need to know it to get the events.

So you get some idiot to watch and they go oh they did a conspiracy, but if you are some sad nerd and think about this stuff it falls apart
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>>14926939
Shes one of the best female character
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>>14927497
So what's this sad nerd on the conspiracy?
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>>14924821
>>14924908
>>14924910
The main Objective with these high quality projects is to provide 3D huge modeling formats.
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>>14927245
>I find it sillier that the beam sniper rifle was strong enough that it could stab itself through the abdomen with it. It went through the front and back armor.
It was a glorified Zaku I being used by a bunch of remnants OF remnants; it was lucky to have cardboard for armor.
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is banana retarded?
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>>14931757
All Newtypes are.
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>>14915970
Laplace's Box is my only major problem with Unicorn. Am I really supposed to believe that this super secret Mcguffin can magically erase all past confrontation and bring a new age of UNDERSTANDING?

Fuck that, it would be better to remove Laplace's Box and play up the "AE influencing events" more, like actually inciting the Fed vs Zeeks war so AE can sell all those Mobile Suits.
AE then along the years, would keep secretly inciting these wars for profit, even having a secret hand over Zeon MS production.
Better yet, keep Laplace Box, as a huge bluff AE has over the feddies so they don't walk out of line.
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>>14931854

> Am I really supposed to believe that this super secret Mcguffin can magically erase all past confrontation and bring a new age of UNDERSTANDING?

No actually. That's not remotely what the ending implies at all. It's just Mineva revealing the contents and asking people not to put any stock in it or use it as an excuse for conflict - not using it's existence as a reason for peace in any way.
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>>14932364
Marilda is pretty sexy
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>Martha
What's your problem?
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>>14935261
autism.
Like all politicians.
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>>14935261
She's old
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>>14935261
She is past
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>>14914078
I hate Riddhe, this banana killed the best girl
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>>14935874
Why is she suffering, anon?
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Bad men have remover your uterus
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>>14938319
That is cruel
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>>14937095
Banana has also killed Marida
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>>14937095
>>14938400
Riddhe a miserable, this killer of waifus
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The machine's performance - its mobility in particular - is dramatically increased when the NT-D is active partially due to the exposure and activation of six additional thrusters. In addition to the performance boost, the NT-D also allows the Unicorn to take control of an enemy's psycommu weapons (also known as "Psycommu Jack") by emitting a Psyco-field from the manipulator. However, the stress placed on the mind by manipulating an object more than tenfold the size of an average human is extraordinary.
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>>14938775
Stargazer is great
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>>14915810
DO NOT TALK SHIT ABOUT THE BEST FUCKING PILOT IN THE MECHA GENRE YOU FUCKING SHITTOR
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>>14937095
What do you mean "best girl", she's barely a character.

What you should instead say is "i liked her character design and will defend her mass murder", like Marida and all of those civilians she killed via reactor explosion.
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>>14915810
Shit I can't imagine what kind of things Amuro would do if he's still alive in unicorn
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RX-0 Unicorn Gundam 02 Banshee
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>>14939454
>like Marida
but it was banana who killed Marida

>>14939536
>Amuro
he's a gary-stu
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>>14914187
The last OVA was like throwback day

what with the Bawoo doing the retro-pose when it combined

The Hyper-Mega Launcher

and a gelgoog doing the gelgoog spin
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>>14914081
/thread
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>>14916651
>Black suit
>Better than it's white counterpart
> = Edgy
Racist
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>>14939633
Black suit is 10
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>>14914078
This is gay show, Angelo is in love with Full Frontal
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>>14914078
I actually just got done watching this yesterday. My initial thoughts were "holy fuck this is so bad" but by episode 3 is starts to turn around, but I feel like they really bungled what could have been an even better series.

As buttblasted as I was about the Tarrington fight, it was enjoyable as fuck, and they took small points to explain why Zeon bungled and fucked it all up while making you care about the characters and having old suits show up was hype as fuck.

It feels like they didn't know how to start or end the series, just that they wanted a couple cool fight scenes and wanted to celebrate Gundam/Universal Century. Watching episode 1 I thought Banagher was going to side with Neo Zeon given that ECOSA/Feddies basically ambush the trade deal, fight inside the colony with little regard, and kill banagher's dad + friends. Then he ends up working with them in an openly hostile environment with pretty much no justification to stick around, even after they fight inside another colony, something he was buttblasted about an episode ago, he still sticks with them.

Also the crying was the worst part, the amount of vomiting and crying by ace pilots was just stupid, it interrupts the action and bogs everything down for dumb shit. And the random ending against Neo Zeong didn't help much either. But Episode 3, 4, 5 and 6 were fun though.
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>>14939753
yeah, it's a fujobait
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>>14940006
Disgusting
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>>14940006
>fujo
I love il
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>>14938775
>Riddhe a miserable
yeah, MUH Mineva
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If you understand Tomino shows, I do not see why you cannot understand Tomino, it's a very simplistic and meaningful show.

Banagher: wants to fulfill his ancestor's wish of seeing a world where the Box's is opened
Mineva: tired of war between Zeon and EFF, wants both sides to have peace
Marida & Zimmerman: Both are scarred by war, want to get revenge against the EF, but realize it's futile and the world is better at peace instead
Full Frontal: jaded Char Aznable who's disappointed by Earth that after CCA, nothing changes, is convinced by Banagher to have hopes against for the next generation
Marcinas + Carbine family: want to protect the secret of Laplace's box to save their own ass, because they have a part in organizing the plot to kill the original EF leader and change the EF's Constitution
Syam Vist + Vist Foundation: is tired of the Box, wants to disclose it to the world and in a way that does not result in war and more conflict

The Laplace's box: a clause that gives priority to "space-evolved people" in governmental position that might strengthen Zeonism.
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>>14935261
Menopause
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>>14941113
There are many pitiful people who cannot see the true greatness of this show.
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>>14941396
exactly that!
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>>14939333
>Riddhe
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Since I can't actually find the last two OVAs

Did anything even change after Unicorn? Did revealing the contents of Laplace's Box do ANYTHING besides shock the world?

Also, this bitch, god what a bitch.
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>>14942395
You know how in F91 it's not about Zeon and the Federation feuding YET AGAIN?
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>>14942402
Not really, F91 was so boring and impenetrable I completely zoned out while watching it, and never bothered to try it again.
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>>14942406
Well essentially as things stand the box yanks the wind out of Zeon's sails so hard it kills the movement. Outside of Bandai-Namco demanding it, Zeon is dead in the year UC96.

F91 and the rest of the UC timeline moves on to demonstrate how even without the excuse of an independence movement in Zeon, human nature is still full of greed and ambition, but the silver lining is that it's at least not Zeon bitching about MUH INDEPENDENCE while trying to see how many colonies they can drop.

Instead it's just crazy people from outer space.
Which kinda makes for the awkward implication that spacenoids are all crazy psychotic mass murderers.
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>>14942418

>well essentially as things stand the box yanks the wind out of Zeon's sails so hard it kills the movement.

Okay

but why?
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>>14914078
The Stark Jegan was kinda cool I guess.
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>>14941113
But this isn't by Tomino. And I love Tomino shows.
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>>14942418
>Zeon is dead in the year UC96

Mars Zeon though.
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>>14942908
Bunch of angry space Palestinians.

To be fair this is the awkward nature of an interquel explaining away something that didn't need explanation much at all.
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>>14942406
F91 is the best Gundam material, kill yourself.
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>>14944794
awesome mech
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>>14945220
>loni will never hold your face
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>>14946950
fuck off banana
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>>14914078

My one problem with the series is that it all seems so meaningless. Like, a problem with plenty of Tomino-written Gundam shows is that the decisions made by the characters are inexplicable. (Compared to something like Aldonah Zero, which is immensely boring but makes sense.)

Here, the whole conflict was pointless! The guys who made the Unicorn deliberately instigated it for no apparent reason, because the Box is far too late to change anything! If he'd really given a shit, he would have handed over to box to Gihren Zabi or something.

Now, after Zeon is in ruins? What's he trying to accomplish? The *threat* of the Box is literally more effective than the contents of it, which is why Audrey's speech comes to absolutely fucking nothing.
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>>14949170
It ended Zeonism.
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>>14914078
zeon fanwank.
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>>14949170
Do you believe that?
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>>14949415

Absolutely. Do I have to point out how Banagher seems to have negative character development? He doesn't believe in anything, he just goes along with whatever anyone says! He doesn't even seem particularly upset that his long-lost father was incinerated in front of his eyes.

By the fifth episode, not a single character is acting like a human being. Even Riddhe has gone all emo for no real reason, when he was perfectly rational before. Does he really want to bang Audrey THAT bad?

The only guy who seems to have something approaching a plan is Full Frontal, and it's not a very good plan.
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>>14950231
>Absolutely. Do I have to point out how Banagher seems to have negative character development? He doesn't believe in anything, he just goes along with whatever anyone says! He doesn't even seem particularly upset that his long-lost father was incinerated in front of his eyes.
Banagher is a self-inset MC

>Even Riddhe has gone all emo for no real reason, when he was perfectly rational before. Does he really want to bang Audrey THAT bad?
he wants this. Riddhe is a kind of Bizon 2.0.

>The only guy who seems to have something approaching a plan is Full Frontal, and it's not a very good plan.
Full Frontal is an empty shell, soulless.
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>>14949735
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>>14951429
Imagine if her dad was still alive, and she looked like this.

"Gah, it's not a phase Dozle."
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>>14951396
>>The only guy who seems to have something approaching a plan is Full Frontal, and it's not a very good plan.
>Full Frontal is an empty shell, soulless.
He's supposed to be soulless, not brainless. And at the end of the OVA the old dude says FF has changed and it's implied Char's spirit has filled FF.
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>>14951472
He would have been happy
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>>14951429
good job anon
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This Baby is so lewd
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>>14945727
Bitch
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>>14915406
>>cucked by said girl who she usually throws a bitch fit over and had to settle with Takuya "Who?" Irei while BANANA's dong gets to smash sweet royal Zeon pussy every night and she gets shit
A long time ago.
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>>14915420
I spray my cum on the monitor everytime I watch Unicorn Gundam.
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>>14915915
I bet you we're able to understand G-Reco too. UC Fags are the most pretentious lads I ever met.
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It is because of >>14938270, anon...
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>>14914078
muh bright, that picture of best boy handing in his office made me sad ;_;
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what are the requirements to become space jizz? can all newtypes do that
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Syam Vist, was he right or wrong?
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>>14962694
And he was not wrong at all.
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Best couple
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>>14938270
she was raped
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>>14962694
>Syam Vist
MUH Laplace's box
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>>14962694
>Syam Vist
It's good that you admitted what you've done was wrong.
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Banana should have been died at the end
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>>14968516
>Banana
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Marida is so Sexy
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I think unicorn gave me space autism cause all I feel now is blinding white rage
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>>14915901
Neo Zeong is a mini-Ideon

>>14916022
>Full Frontal didn't fight Banagher, but tried to reason with him and talk him in to his point of view
Aka finale of Ideon

>>14932376
And by doing that, humanity avoided invoking the will of ide into once again.

Really, it all makes sense when you take this gag manga as the prequel to Unicorn.
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>>14971004
(You)
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>>14914187
>great supporting cast
Not really.
>great soundtrack
Composer's shit sounds the same as anything else he did: Guilty Crown, KLK, etc...
>simple plot
You neglect to mention a stupid simple plot.
>great waifus
No.
>Char Clone with a surprisingly reasonable
No.
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>>14971382
but 8.40 on MAL score
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>>14971391
Yeah. Don't forget K-ON > LotGH too.
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>>14971382
>>great waifus
yeah, Marida and Mineva
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>>14971393
>K-ON
Thanks to /u/fags
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>>14971395
>Marida.
No.
>Mineva
No.
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>>14971405
but she likes banana
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Bandai Hobby #124 Dreissen
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>>14971418
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>>14971411
Mineva has zero personality at all. Marida has a light amount. The former is not sympathetic at all and goes through no development, the latter is generic archetype going through the motions.

Bridge bunny girl that wants Riddhe and has a spine is more interesting then either.
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>>14962694
>blows up the president of the federation for money
>lucks upon the perfect piece of blackmail while all of his targets and fellow terrorists die
>blackmails the federation for a century while forming Anaheim Electronics, UC's biggest war profiteers
>lives a cozy, rich, priviledged life while keeping the corrupt federation and the likes of the Marcenas dynasty in charge
>when he's lived a full life and is living out the end of his days, he decides to fix the corrupt system
>he does this by giving Zeon a chance to gain access to his perfect blackmail piece, in the hopes that after all the ensuing chaos and bloodshed dies down the world will be a slightly less shitty place

I'd say he was pretty damn wrong. At least he has the guts to admit as much.
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>>14914078
I have a really hard time keeping the factions and their goals straight in unicorn.
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>>14971438
Can you elaborate on your opinion?

Why is Mineva not sympathetic, Marida generic, and how the bridge bunny is more interesting than them?
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>>14972899
Any reason why?
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>>14972691
>>he does this by giving Zeon a chance to gain access to his perfect blackmail piece, in the hopes that after all the ensuing chaos and bloodshed dies down the world will be a slightly less shitty place
...but he does not give Zeon that?

He chooses his successor to do that.
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>>14942605
No one knows
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>>14972918
Pacing, I think and unclear motivations. Sure theres a shit ton of exposition but it would be better if peoples motivations made sense enough for them to not have to be constantly talking for you to understand why they mught want what they want.

At some points it almost seems like compilation movie pacing and content jamming- most likely do to the way they adapted it without thinking about what changes might make it work better as a story told in a certain number of OVA size chunks.
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>>14942418
>Which kinda makes for the awkward implication that spacenoids are all crazy psychotic mass murderers.

Zeon was half-right about the souls weighed down by gravity. Lack of it causes them to fly off and turn into crazed monsters. Given the habits of Spacenoids to either be genocidal psychotic mass murderers or support them...
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>>14972988
They practically spell out shit for you.
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>>14972988
I agree, apparently Tomino is known for being hard to understand even in Japanese due to his writing style but the dialogue on Unicorn was just on another level (and not in a good way).

It feels like a lot of the characters end up saying way more than they need to in order to get simple ideas across but rather than sounding philosophical or intellectual like it's trying to it just seems muddled and try-hard.

I still enjoyed Unicorn overall but I just wish they would have trimmed the dialogue.
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>>14973006
>it's trying to it just seems muddled and try-hard.
Unicorn in a nutshell.

It was pretentious garbage that didn't understand what Gundam was about.
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>>14962694
All my efforts went down the drain
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It's a fine, well crafted story with amaxing music, voice acting, and story telling, you do not, i repeat, DO NOT need to be versed in much of UC history at all to appreciate it, the story does a god job of hand holding viewers through the important bits, eg, when we first meet our hero Banagher he is sitting in a history lecture, this 30 second scene does alot of set up what you may be interested in regarding the history of conflict in UC
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>>14959098
>>14959728
it sucks that those LEDs don't really help if the shield does not light up too
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>>14918667
>>14918052
>>14921287
>>14922128
>>14922222
>>14922130
>>14935874
>>14942373
More like best slut.
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>>14972916
>Why is Mineva not sympathetic
Why would she be? She's bland, she's 1-dimensional, she goes through no development, and she's largely a plot device rather then an actual character. 90% of her lines are exposition spouting then anything else.
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They're airing 0093 on Toonami following IBOs1. I wonder how /co/ is going to take the news.
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>>14935261
She'd be great without the weird jaw
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Anyone one has the webms of the FA Unicorn doing shit?
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>>14968516
This just seems like a bad idea
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>>14978872
Why do missiles always have that penis line?
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>>14970524
>that manface
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I wonder why she had to die?
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Should I watch the OVA or the RE:0096 series?
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>>14984040
Member berries
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>>14984504
watch the RE:0096 series
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>>14984504
The OVA, you moron. The TV series features nothing new except an OP, and Ikedea doing intros and makes a 7 OVA episode series into a two season TV series.
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