Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ

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>>14913678
a great series.

>>14913678
anon, that's the most loved show in /m/

>>14913872
>>14913900
Roux a cute.
I love Judau

>>14913678
Gundam ZZ is one of the more infamous titles within the Gundam franchise, and for good reason. Following the dark and intense storyline delivered from Zeta Gundam that delivered some shocking developments with remnants of the Zeon Empire taking root and Kamille's comatose state, ZZ attempts to go for more light-hearted and kid-friendly storytelling in its focus on Judau Ashta, a young junk collector recruited by Bright Noa to be a Gundam pilot for the Argama due to Kamille's comatose state. The light-hearted mood for ZZ is felt in much of its first half as slapstick comedy and lack of intense violence are a regular sight for much of ZZ's first half. While the comedy can have its moments at times, it clashes poorly with the dark mood and war themes established from the first two Gundam TV titles.

From what I gathered of the series history, series director Yoshiyuki Tomino attempted to give the series a more lighter mood and would have eventually had Char Aznable make an appearance as a major enemy threat. But when he got the okay to do production for Char's Counterattack, Tomino changed plans and restored Gundam's normal mood and themes to ZZ's storyline as the show went into its second half. This led the series to take a major improvement in quality as Neo-Zeon leader and main villain Haman Karn became more active in the show's plot and major dramatic events take place from the escalating conflict between members of the Argama and the Neo-Zeons that include the franchise's penchant for killing off major characters. Both sides in the conflict get their fleshing out to show that members among the factions have their redeemable traits and tragic character elements that result from fighting in war with characters such as Haman and Ple.

>>14914324
The second half still suffers somewhat with some points where ZZ's comical mood from the first half of the series rears its ugly head and the usual Newtype gimmickry that leads to convenient plot developments when lead characters like Judau seem to be nearly down for the count.

Visually, Gundam ZZ is an improvement over Zeta Gundam as it sports more cleaner lining and details with its mecha and spaceship designs. A number of the character designs, particularly those with Judau's group and some Neo-Zeon members, were made in mind to fit popular 80s trends of the time period such as clothing and hair styles, but look ridiculously outdated to modern audiences. The battle choreography for ZZ is creative and diverse for the most part as characters deploy different types of mecha for varying battle tactics and capacities, and some technologies get deployed to aid in battle strategies such as the dummy asteroids and funnels used by Newtype-powered mecha.

Still for some of the positives offered by ZZ, the series still suffers greatly from the tonal shift that its first half offered up with its lighter mood and slapstick comedy clashing badly with the more serious mood, themes, and story developments established from earlier Gundam titles. While still a necessary watch as the series continues events from Zeta Gundam and has developments that contribute to Char's later actions from Char's Counterattack, I would be hard-pressed to watch it more than once.

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Slut-chan is my favorite waifu

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>>14914532

Remember kids, people who say ZZ is good are just SJW redditors hell bent on ruining /m/. These are the same people who claim Turn A is bad.
Do not believe in their lies.

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>>14913678
Wow my favorite gundam anime thread

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>>14914326
The 80s fashion is just Kitazume drawing (lol) from his bank of weird shit from animating in Heavy Metal L-Gaim.
It has less shoulder pads and is less futuristic which takes away from it. It's not as sexy as irl 80s nor as weird as Nagano.

>>14913678
I like him. /m/ hate him

>>14914535
ANN SJWs are the ones who like Turn A.
>mostly female cast
>black tranny MC
>Ghiblishit setting

>>14914690
she's so Promiscuous

Was any other protagonist other than Judeau just fucked after the end, realizing that their world is so fucked it's not worth staying around for?

>>14914971
>Pepsi

>>14914326
Nice mal review

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ZZ has a lot of sluts

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awesome scene

>>14915757
>ZZ has a lot of sluts
they're great girls

>>14916290
The television family |o|

>>14915161
ZZ is a fucking MAL anime.

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>>14916424
Wrong, that's Zeta

>>14914838
*Purumiscuous
Or Plemiscuous, if that's your thing...

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robot damashii Enhanced ZZ Gundam toy is fucking awesome, Bandai toys have become as good as their Gunpla

>>14916475
Can it transform into the G-Fortress?

>>14916475

>awesome
>doesn't transform

Into the trash it goes

>>14916483
>>14916480
>a toy is bad because it cannot transform into a flight mode that no one on /m/ ever has considered good looking
>Transformation gimmick has always made the robot mode look like shit, even in 2016
>see: Master Grade V2 Gundam
>see: Bandai 1/72 Macross VF-1 Valkyrie
herp a derp a doo dee

>>14916475
I don't even like ZZ but this looks good as fuck.

>>14916518
See, I thought you were saying the toy was as good as the kit. Which would mean I could get two, display one in ZZ mode and another in G-Fortress mode, and they'd both look great, because that's what these are for. If it can't even turn into the G-Fortress, let alone the ZZ's components, then why would I get it over the ZZ Ver. Ka that's pretty much certain to be in the works and will be able to do that?

>>14915757
>puru two is wearing no clothes
perfect

I do not think I even liked him very much at first.

>>14917586
Why do you dump?

>>14916475
awesome

>>14918705
Roux is so perfect

>>14915757
These girls are excellent fap material.

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awesome scene

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>>14919456

Post more ZZ sluts or I'll drop a colony on you and Jupiter.

>>14919456

>Brights face

he just gives no fucks does he

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Old doujins are weird.

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>>14914532
>>14914533

to the people posting ZZ mecha pics, thank you

to the people posting shitty deviant art tier fap drawings, this is /m/, not /e/

>>14921001
>sukebejanai
kek

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>>14921397
You're going to take both, newfag.

>>14921001
One on the right has a perfect artstyle
That sleazy fantasy artist feel

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MSZ-010S Enhanced ZZ Gundam

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>>14924853

>>14921001
>For a moving hand magazine.

>>14924853
I've bought this

I'm currently 7 ep in and I must ask these two questions, why is everyone besides Judau, his sister and Roux so retarded? and Does this problem get better soon in the upcoming episodes? I will endure it purely out of necessity but seeing Fa so dumbed down after her progress shown in Zeta is really annoying.

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>>14925463
yeah

>>14925463
Fa is just really fucking worried about Kamille.

Sooner or later she will just say fuck it.

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>>14925468
>Judau avenged themselves of Bright
The worst enemy of all gundam MCs.

>>14925468
this was one of the best scenes from the gundam franchise.
Gundam MCs are grateful.

>>14916475
it doesn't even look like you could move it's legs, how are you going to play with this at all besides shitty Beme battles?

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>>14914532
>>14914533
I especially love her

Just finished this and am glad to deleted all 25 gigs of it off my hard drive. I think it was mediocre as hell for about 30 episodes.

It needs a compilation movie but I guess the Zeta movie's new ending straight retconned ZZ?

>>14922999
>n-newfag
Great job outing yourself as a f/a/ggot.

>>14913678
This thread convinced me to watch ZZ at the double next week.

>>14927662
>>14927673
pretty cool

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what could have been

>>14927392
well, Haman love Judau

While I fucking love the Double Zeta I don't really get the in universe explanation for why they went with the "three ships that combine to create a mobile suit" design. It just seems like a really impractical design choice.

>>14931025
There is none. Background fluff states that the ZZ was actually structurally weak and needed upgrades to help alleviate that. Enhanced ZZ fixed some of the structural problems, while the endgame full armor upgrade actually prevented it from being able to transform while the armor was equipped.

>>14930580
practically every female loved judo ashita

he was a harem protagonist

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>>14931061

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2. Draw the rest of the fucking Judau.

>>14931061
>practically every female loved judo ashita
Judau is pretty cute

>>14931254
Haman best gundam girl

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MSZ-010 ΖΖ Gundam

>>14935111
is she a pure virgin?

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>>14935800

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>>14935806

>>14935772
yeah, Judau no fuck her

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>>14936693

>>14936709
fuckin cool

I wish more ZZ suits had modern kits.

Yep

>>14936709
Katoki as fuck!

>>14936716
figure Roux is 10/10

>>14930580
Judau has the best gundam harem

>>14939761
yep

>>14916982
Holy shit, sauce pls

>>14940425
http://ja.hentai-image.com/

>>14928707
yeah, it's a good serie

>>14927392
lewd
I was rooting for Haman.

>>14941049
tks anon

>>14931066
But i like this

>>14925486
Is there a webm of this scene?

>>14945218
fuck off sexy

>>14937936
>I wish more ZZ suits had modern kits.
I agree with you, anon

>>14945218
stop being lewd please

>>14927062
>stutter posting
>/a/ boogeyman
Hello, reddit.

>>14946747
Re/100 Hamma-Hamma! Rejoice!

Hamma Muh Judau's dick

>>14913678
Mostly ZZ is just tomino Trying to distance himself from Z for the first half, as most of it has some comedic tones that contrast Z. Also Judau is a departure from Camille, Judau feels like he belongs in a Super Robot Show.
As for Mineva, she doesn't feature much(from what i recall) and most her appearances are simple and short lived.
So Watch ZZ if you wish to know the fate of the Argama, it's crew and Hamman after Riders in the Skies .
otherwise you can just skip to CCA.

>>14926303
holy shit, Shinta and Qum were in fact unbearable

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>ZZ Gundam VER Ka

2017年。次なるMG Ver.KaとしてZZガンダムが登場!これは目が離せない!続報を待て! #ガンプラ #ガンプラEXPO

https://twitter.com/HobbySite/status/800156739307913216

Awesome news anon

>>14948701
Hallelujah

>>14948701
Cool dogshit bro

>>14948701
How much it will cost?

>>14948999
9,100 yen

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>>14948701

>>14949010
I love body and I think legs are sexy

>>14948701
I'll buy him

>>14949010
These legs make me hard-cock.

>>14949022
>>14949027
are you guys mechasexual like Rattrap?

>>14949022
'll have the same thing.

>>14948701
Sorry, we don't accept credit cards.

>>14949010
I like it

>>14949031
>mechasexual
it's art

I developed a leg fetish, much like people do for feet, except for me it was a mech's legs.

>>14949775
You are ill

>>14949779
I’d like to be your skin to feel what you feel, and be your soul, your taste for tenderness, but I prefer to be me, so I can love you.

>>14948701
Awesome, tks anon

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At first I was super turned off by no English dub, but I will say I'm coming around to it.

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>>14949916

>>14949916
>>14949919
Meant to ask, was there shit like this in the jap subs for 0079 and Zeta? I've been going through UC in release order, and those first two had English dubs available so I went with that.

>>14949921
only 0079

>>14949031
>Rattrap
When?

>>14949010
It's really beautiful

>>14948701
March 2017

>>14931061
But I love this

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>>14916475
>that sexy smooth and small torso
>THICC waist, legs and shoulders

>>14954455
I trust you.

>>14949010
Pretty cool

Is there a movie this series?

>>14958787
No

>>14958787
I wish there is.

>>14913678
Best gundams along with 00. Double letters/numbers are the secret to good gundam.

>>14949010
The kits are expensive.

>>14916434
No, it falls into the typical MAL trap of having a very small audience and therefore a more extreme score because of less numbers to turn into an average.
0079 has the most accurate score of the three because it has the most users watching it.
Zeta has a slightly higher score, but only because it has less people and thus a less diverse group of opinions.
The same that happens with Zeta also happens to ZZ but on the other end of the spectrum.
Both Naruto and Sword Art Online have over 500,000 users on MAL, yet they both have a lower average score than 0079, solely because there are more people watching it with different opinions.

>>14916434
>MAL
>ANN
>reddit
>AnimeSuki
They don't serve as parameters for anything.

>>14916434
ZZ is the true patrician show

>>14949919
>kissanime

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is Glemy Toto the first great cuck in the history of the gundam franchise?

>>14962788
yeah, Glemy and Riddhe are awesome cucks

>>14962788
no, it's Amuro

My personal take is the maturity of the second half is made more effective due to the contrast of the light-hearted first half. It reflects Judau's growing maturity as a character, going from a goofy kid in Shangri-la to a an empathetic soldier fighting Neo-Zeon. It's not Zeta Part II, it's Judau and his friends' story and the tonal shift makes it work.

>>14962756
Is there a better place to watch stuff?

>>14962917
What does it take to achieve this reciprocity?

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>>14962788
You're forgetting the OG cuck.
This nerd got cucked by TWO guys with the same girl

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Only 10 more episodes to go. I'm glad this got a lot better as it went on, and that I stuck with it.

>>14963951
>kiss anime

>>14962788
He did nothing wrong

>>14962788
He is the Father of all cuck characters

>>14963563
Clark Kent?

>>14962756
>>14963951
Glemy Toto is a pedophile. He captures little girls to molest them later. He grows them in labs so he can abuse them and he talks to them while they are naked like they nothing is wrong. He should be put in jail for the rest of his life with the key thrown away.

>>14966708
Delete this

>>14963951
i hate him

>>14963951
Glemy Toto is a faggot and a cuck

>>14914535
But i thought the redditors loved turn a and hated zz

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>>14916293
After all these years, I'm still sad.

>>14962788
>Glemy Toto
/m/ hate him

Mkay, just finished ZZ. Think I'll re-prime myself with 0079's movies as well as Zeta's movies before hoping into Char's Counter Attack. I understand Zeta's movies are non canon, but I figure I'll give em a watch anyway.

Which brings me to this question, as I get deeper into my "watch all Gundam" marathon, are there any animated works not included on this list?

http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Gundam_Wiki:Timelines

Just want to make sure I don't miss anything.

>>14969812
anon, see >>14953279

>>14968684
Puru is pure

>>14966708
source

>>14969827
That doesn't include everything though.

>>14913872
Great body but such a cunt personality.
Only good for violate

>>14963951
hes was a pure cuck

>>14969485
>>14968504
>>14967606
>>14964788
>>14972936
Stop posting any time.

>>14972955
>SJW Glemy
jesus

>>14972955
Fuck off ANN shitposter go back to weebshit

>>14966708
I really miss hgundam... ;_;

>>14974590
Yeah I know you do.

>>14913678
OP and when we will get the ZZ movies?

watched it once, never again. Doesn't mean it's a bad show though. Just that it was horrible to watch.

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>>14975249

Zeta Gundam has a character who thinks a boy 8 years younger than her is her older brother, but still weirdly pines for him in a sexual way, follows him around even though he's on the other side, and decides she has to kill everyone because the sky is falling, and nearly every scene she's with the boy, there's a joke with her taking off her shirt. Like, I get that ZZ has some dumb stuff, but Rosammia is in Zeta, during one of the most melodramatic points in the show.

>>14978400
Shit like that is a big turn off when watching a series. Characters acting retarded. Rosamia, Katz, Puru, etc. It makes me want to just stop watching.

>>14980151
That's pretty par for the course with Tomino works though.

>>14980634
Everything outside of the people acting like actual retards is great though, so it's worth it in the end.

>>14947885
>otherwise you can just skip to CCA.
Dont listen to stupid fucks like this. He obviously hasn't seen the show If he thinks Judau is like that.

>>14962756
aaaannnd out you go! >>>/a/
We dont do the "irrational for the sake of it" thing here

>>14980151
Puru ll makes up for Puru l though
Personally I think light hearted to seriously sold the Gundam concept extremely well. It shows how war changed the characters.

>>14981914
>We dont do the "irrational for the sake of it" thing here
Are you new here? Have you not seen, for example, almost every other active Gundam thread right now?

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>>14981908

So im not a huge fan of subs but is zeta really worth watching? Because i heard to get some references in unicorn i have to see ZZ, also are the fan subs worse or better than the official subs

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>>14923766
> A fucking wizard

>>14925453
>I just noticed Four in the background.

>>14983031
>Four
shes not Four, its another person

>>14983223
No shit? Thanks Captain Obvious.

>>14984238

She should really trim that bush.

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I want to be bullied by Haman

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Best characters this series

Gundam ZZ is far from perfect, but I don’t think it is absolutely horrific, It maybe the weakest entry in the Universal Century, but I can tell Tomino was at least trying despite some of the Bizarre decisions he made for the series, honestly, I would only recommend this show to gardcore gundam fans, for I don’t really see a casual viewer wanting to watch this show, the first half was full of a lot of comedic garbage, but the series does redeem itself in the second half. So overall, Gundam ZZ, its okay.

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>>14986329
>the first half was full of a lot of comedic garbage, but the series does redeem itself in the second half

>>14986647
I think the way they play it goofy really adds punch when they finally do return to usual UC form.
Like when they're re-entering the atmosphere and Puru starts screaming about how she doesn't want to die and you're like "oh fuck that's right this is gundam"