What does /m/ think about tanks?

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>>14903197

Pretty cool guys, though I haven't met one personally.

>>14903197
weak shit even shittier than Leo

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>>14903197
waste of time

>>14903197
>Everyone gets cool Germanic names
>Except poor Ferdinand

>>14903197
they're nice guys
I like how they're the middle ground between guns and mobile weapons.

>>14903231
Ferdinant the first version. Nearly all of them were modified and named "Elefant"

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This is /m/, nobody cares about tanks unless they've got legs

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>>14903305
Am I /m/ yet?

>>14903197
I like some of Battletech's tanks like the Schrek, Ontos, Maticore, Patton, Rommel and the like.

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>>14903197
I'm a faggot who likes tanks, mecha, planes and ships equally. I don't like how they are often portrayed as useless with the mechas around but I understand the reasons for that.

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Of course. In fact, I was just playing some Panzerblitz with my old man just last night

I would appreciate a tank anime. Or a warplane anime. But all the new releases are SW and GuP.

>>14903389
Hey, don't knock GuP. It managed to keep the focus on the tanks pretty much the whole way through. In fact, a business associate of mine who only watches moe shows didn't like it because it wasn't much of a moe show and more of a sports anime.

>>14903312
Shagohad is /m/

Neat, but nowhere near as cool as planes

>>14903396
>It managed to keep the focus on the tanks pretty much the whole way through.
It did. But the entire setting is nonsensical and there are too many questions to be answered.

>>14903493
>But the entire setting is nonsensical and there are too many questions to be answered.

It's an anime where WWII-era tanks are used in a real-life approximation of WoT, not an exhaustive analysis of tank mechanics.

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>>14903493
True, but I had more fun with that than watching something like pic related.
Not that I wouldn't immensely enjoy a realistic tank anime built on memoirs/accounts like that of Otto Carius' or Dmitriy Loza's. Hell, I wouldn't even wait for subs, I'd dive right in armed with sub-par moon and a dictionary.

>>14903502
At least they could keep the laws of physics unbroken

>>14903573
>complain about physics on /m/

>>14903389
Don't knock Brave Witches, they're playing things a lot more grounded with how Hikari has legit, borderline grounds for discharge shortcomings in her ability to channel magic despite having the drive to be an active duty witch as well as physical stamina far beyond the requirement for such a job, and it's a welcome break from how Strike Witches handed Miyafuji everything on a silver platter because of her boundless magical potential.

>>14903591
I just don't like the idea of premature WWII aces-based girls waving their panties around.
Make a normal WWII air war anime, goddamit. Or don't make any at all.

>>14903615

Why would they make that?

You can just play one of the god knows how many WWII flight games.

>>14903615
There's significantly less of that.

In fact I can't really think of any gratuitous shots in Brave, contrast with Strike where it's the unspoken selling point of the show.

>>14903626
>it's the unspoken selling point of the show.
I don't really get this. Sure, it's always there, but it's *so* gratuitous that I quickly became numb to it and ended up watching a war squad story without even really consciously seeing the shots.

>>14903618
>Why would they make that?
This might be educational, this would sell, this would probably be fun to make.
>You can just play one of the god knows how many WWII flight games.
Not many of them feature some sort of good story. Blazing Angels 2 is fun, but I won't be replaying this.
Actually I dreamt of UC Gundam or VOTOMS game with BA2 customising tree

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>>14903305

>Hey Gekko, how many legs do you have?
>I don't know, like two my dude
>Ha you are like baby mechatank
>WATCH THIS

>>14903639
That might've been the point, make it so gratuitous that it stops being noticeable.

It's hard to tell with Strike, but it did spill over into VividRed Operation.

But the director for those is still the director in Brave and I don't really recall ass shots at all, so either I've gone numb to it as well (in which case mission accomplished) or the guy thinks the quantity of ass shots should be proportional to how seriously you should take a given episode.

>>14903197
They're cool. Obviously, for mecha to work as a concept you have to downplay the effectiveness of tanks somewhat, but I still enjoy stories where tanks and robots work side by side.

>>14903641

>might be educational

You're gravely mistaken if you think any Japanese person is remotely interested in the WWII air war beyond what their own countrymen did, which consisted mostly of losing horribly to American pilots.

>>14903692
Then they could try and write an entertaining story in the WWII setting. Just no more magic and pantie shots.

>>14903705

What about? Everything's been done to death in that category.

>>14903708
About the relationship between pilots, maybe.
For example, soviet "Only old men are going to battle". It doesn't feature much of the action, but the interaction between the characters is interesting to watch for.
Something like it can be written about any other Air Force of that time for sure

>>14903705
Dude, seriously, just give Brave Witches a shot.

>>14903721

We have that, though.

Battle of Britain, Eternal Zero, even bloody Red Tails, or the more accurate The Tuskegee Airmen. Pilot camaraderie isn't unexplored territory.

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>>14903726
>Red Tails
That's more fantasy than P-51 Dragon Fighter.

>>14903729

That's exactly why I mentioned 1995's film as a counterpoint.

>>14903726
Then, how about some adventure story? Like a Crimson Skies game.

>>14903736

Okay, you got me there, because I love Crimson Skies.

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Hello there, fellow Americans

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>>14903772
Пpивéт.
Is that some Men of War?

>>14903778
Judging by the interface, it is a russian version of one of the MaW parts.

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>>14903518
I really love those inside tank shots. That's is that one thing I can praise Fury; as much as I didn't like the movie, the shots of the crew inside the tank are really good.

Hopefully, one day japan may do a anime of Kobayashi Black Knights manga.

>>14903228
Play boats instead, you will have more fun there

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>>14903772

>>14903876
>That's is that one thing I can praise Fur
Yeah, those were the only parts I really liked. Wish we saw some of what the Tiger crew was doing during their fight, but I guess they wanted to avoid humanizing it as much as possible and did this to make it appear more menacing.
Plus the they really weren't the focus.

>>14903197
impractical, slow, outdated concept.

I'm not a robot(checked)

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>>14903896
>outdated

Not as long as there's a need for close-support weapons of calibers greater than 55mm

>>14903197
>What does /m/ think about tanks?

It was one of the earliest concept of military mecha, whats not to love?

They were slog and not the most versatile unit but they done their jobs good enought.

It was also my dream to drive one even, since bipedal robots are out of question for maybe couple of decades, and rolling some charlies with your bros and surviving throught all of it was awesome.

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>>14903945

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The best /m/ tanks

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>>14903956

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>>14903197
Tanks are mecha on wheels or treads.
They're fine, don't let the newfags tell you otherwise.

GuP the Movie was basically pure entertainment. If you guys think "noooo it's shit it's about cute girls" overcome your bias and watch it.

>>14903211
I've met quite a few in person and been in a few and they were bretty cool.

>>14903197

the only tank that matters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGTZLuuTPi8

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BANEBLADE

>>14903312
What kind of Vodka were those guys drinking?

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they're pretty cool

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>>14903907
You rang?

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>>14905211
You don't need to be drunk to think that strapping jets to something is a worthy endeavor.

>>14905216
What does this do that a tank can't.

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>>14905225
It can kick

>>14903421
It should be shagohOd

Hey guys. I just got into tanks watching Girlz und Panzer. I want to play a tank game. Its either World of Tanks or Warthunder. Anyone know which is better???

>>14905318
WoT = Counter Strike
WT = BAttlefield

>>14903382
>when da Zimmerit on your lower glacis takes a hit.

>>14903197
I'd read a gundam spin off with tanks fighting MS

>>14905318
War Thunder, since you can have planes and tanks in the same match.

>>14905336
more like
WoT - solid gameplay, little jews

WT - buggy unbalanced gameplay, big jews

>>14905424
More like:
WoT - Soviet bias
WT - Soviet bias

>>14905466
More like
WoT- arcade gameplay, big jews, non-russian crybabies
WT - a bit less of an arcade gameplay, less jews, non-russian crybabies.
Seriously, it's easy to fight soviets, if you know how.

>>14905424
War Thunder is excellently balanced except for the Soviets.

>>14903386
I am actually old enough to remember those old bookcase games. Wow, memories.

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What's your favorite tank? Mine is Panther.

>>14906388
T-34. All mass-production variants exept for one with L-11 cannon.

>>14906388
Panzer IV E

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>>14906388

The 7TR

To compliment my waifu's favorite tank, the 7TP

>>14906614
>not the superior T-26
>not the original Vickers 6-ton

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>>14906388

>>14906388
MY NIGGA my favorite one is the ausf F

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>>14903945
>TANK NOT MUNKY.
Looks cool, it reminds me of Guzzle. But I don't undertsnad why the author kept the animal parts in >>14903956 and >>14903962.

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>>14906388
I don't know why but I love the amx-13

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>>14906388
I love the Abrams.
T-72 a solid second place.

>>14906960

Great tank except for that jet turbine engine (should have gone diesel), and being too heavy though. 70 tons for a tank is too much. It can't use regular bridges.

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>>14906968

That's what Army River Force is for

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>>14906388
Back from the WWII I would say the Panzer IV.

From modern times, I would pick the Leopard II.

>>14906968
>(should have gone diesel)
Why?

>>14906968
Shut up Sprey, the turbine burns anything you put in it and there will always be something to put into it. Plus it isn't a ear exploding noisemaker.

Also I want a citation on the bridge shit. Shitty third world bridges are a pretty bad reference point.

>>14906757
The oscillating turret's sexy, man.

>>14905619
>War Thunder is excellently balanced except for the Soviets and Japanese.
FTFY

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>>14907787
Japanese tanks when?

I hate communists and leftists but I will always love Soviet tanks, T-72 the best.

If I'm a poor country, I would buy 1000 modernized T-72 coupled with 100 T-90.

>>14908208
If I was a poor country I would buy all the tanks by taxing my citizens into starvation

>>14908235
Incredibly stupid move that not even North Korea does.

Dictator cares the most about food, with food, nobody will rebel.

>>14908240
And entertainment. Remember the old axiom: "bread and circus".

>>14908258
Only for decadent society.

The norks's morale survive based on magnificiently-produced propaganda.

And in fact might have superior spiritual health than their southern cousins.

>>14908240
who needs people when you have tank

>>14908206
Probably by the end of the year/early next year, Gaijin has posted pics of weeb tanks they've finished the models for, their late game tech tree will likely be filled with American tanks though.

>>14905212
That's the ATGMS ONLY FINAL DESTINATION one?

>>14903960
[honor of the regiment intensifies]

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>>14906388
> Modern
T-90 or Merkava, reactive armour is sex

>WW2
Tiger I probably

>>14909976
A few tech-priests, some gun-servitors, and a single guardsman? That ratio seems off.

>>14905318
Play WoT if you don't mind horrible teammates.
Play WT if you don't mind game devs that keep making questionable decisions like adjusting the matchmaking for each vehicle based on the playerbase's performance in it.

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>>14906388
Of course, the Centurion, so damn good, its still in use today.

As for WWII tanks, I like the Tiger II.

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>>14904173
Was there any confirmation about whether the Nameless tank was related to the Edelweiss?

>>14911370
The Abrams, if it was piloted by Jackie Chan holding a baby in one hand, a ladder in the other, and wanting no trabble.

>>14911370
The Abrams is faster and has much better range (and accuracy at range). Against WW2 era tanks, it could likely kill any of its opponents before they even knew it was there. The only issue is that it only carries about 40 shells.

>>14911388
>piloted by Jackie Chan holding a baby in one hand, a ladder in the other, and wanting no trabble.
No tank (or any war machine, really) should hold that much power.

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>>14903876
Found another one of those webm. The chances of someone losing a arm or a hand on this one seems huge.

>>14911370
If the smaller ones would distract Abrams and try do damage his electronical stuff in the turret, then IS-2, KV-2 and KT should be able to blow Abrams' shit up.

>>14911403
what the fuck there is still manual loading in our times?

>>14911423
Americans can't into reloading machine.
A nigger Joe or a loader Gonzalez is cheaper.

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>>14911430

No one in the west does automatic loading.

British Challenger 2? Manual loading.

German Leopard 2? Manual loading.

Only the French, with their Leclerc have taken up automatic loaders, and they still haven't worked out all the kinks.

>>14911423
Part of it is probably military culture (natural tank crew team building exercise), but there's also the part where an autoloader only truly becomes objectively efficient starting at a certain caliber of gun shell where the weight begins to take a toll on the fleshbags' efficiency. At the dimensions of the average western tank gun round, there's no real decisive advantage to one or the other.

>>14903683
it pisses me off when mecha stomp the shit out of tanks (or anything else non-mecha) because you lose out on the possibility of having cool asymmetrical fight scenes

>>14910900
As far as I'm aware, only to the extent that the Edelweiss influenced tank design throughout the entire setting.

You can turn it into the Edelweiss with parts unlocked in post-game, though. The body has really solid heavy tank stats, but it still tends to fall short of the usual "light tank body, heavy tank turret" shenanigans that have dominated tank usage since VC2. The Edelweiss turret, though, is a thing of beauty. It's not as accurate as some of the guns you can loot off enemy tanks, and the secondary weapons are garbage in comparison, but it's pretty much unmatched as far as sheer anti-tank power. Doesn't weigh much, either.

>>14903889
Forgot to mention the overlapping roadwheels.

>>14906968
The engine's hardly the only thing wrong with it.

>>14907560
Because it's exponentially more practical in every aspect.

>>14911370
The vintage team; all they have to do is avoid contact and wait for the Crate to run out of fuel, suffer a mechanical failure, irrecoverably self-entrench, go up in flames when its fuel spontaneously ignites, etc. Should only last about two minutes.

>>14903960
>Bolos may be destroyed--
>they do not surrender.

Because the other word of Cambronne would never have gotten past the censors.

>>14912522
Pierre Sprey is that you

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The best

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>>14912522
>The vintage team; all they have to do is avoid contact and wait for the Crate to run out of fuel, suffer a mechanical failure, irrecoverably self-entrench, go up in flames when its fuel spontaneously ignites, etc. Should only last about two minutes.

>>14912522
>Because it's exponentially more practical in every aspect.
But its not???????

>>14912880
>WHO SCRATCHED MY PAINT!?

>>14912707
I bet that tree has claimed many lives provoking car accidents
I like that tree

>>14903876
>>14903893
>not liking the best war movie in years
You fellows are doing a bang-up job showing off /m/'s often terrible taste.

>>14913523
>often
You mean always?

>>14913388
It is.

>>14906388
Either the Char B1 bis or the PzKpfw IV Ausf H

KV-2 is cool too

>>14911370
That depends; is there a Ferris wheel on the battlefield?

>>14903211
How is pajeets' tank anyway, without the memes?

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>>14906388
I've always liked the trapezoid designs for some reason.

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>>14906388
>playing WT
you poor soul

mine is this qt

>>14903197
The Panther looks so puny. Was it really that good?

>>14914672
it was expensive, and wasn't really so much better than it's counterparts. it were the crews that were so good, that it made a difference.

>>14914679
>wasn't really so much better than it's counterparts
And what would those be?
Wasn't it cheaper and easier to make than the Tiger?
And surely better than that dwarf Panzer 4, right?
That being said, why no Panzer 4 on this pic?

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>>14906388
Fiction? Hildolfr
IRL? Merkava and Leopard 2
IRL WW II? Crusader series

>>14914682
Because the Panzer IV was on the other team.

>>14914679
>it were the crews that were so good, that it made a difference.
Also better optics that facilitate that first shot.

>>14914682
>Wasn't it cheaper and easier to make than the Tiger?
it was. but being cheaper than the tiger isn't really an accomplishment. Meanwhile the soviets shat out 10:1 t34s because they were faster and cheaper to make.
And the m4 was also cheaper, but maybe inferior due to it's weak cannon. Still they wrecked the german forces with sheer numbers and advanced technology.

>And surely better than that dwarf Panzer 4, right?
yes, but that doesn't mean anything. The panzer iv was cheaper and more reliable.
It's not like you just throw away all your tools to make a pz iv and spend a shitload of money to make the tools for panther production. You lose time and capital. That's why the pz iv was made to the end of the war.

>>14905248
What tank would he pilot?

>>14914711
Yeah well, being able to shit out crazy numbers of tanks all while your factories are way beyond the reach on the enemy is one thing, actually having a good design to go with this is another (I agree that the T34 was a supreme design).

I think I read somewhere historians arguing that if Germans rolled with Panzer 4's in bigger numbers (especially the latest versions) and only going Tiger/Panther when absolutely necessary (so, against T34/85 or something) they could tip the scales of the war.
But the "the Germans could tip the scales of the war if only they had the knowledge of future events" argument is so stale.

>>14914693
The other team?

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Useless deathtraps that are outgunned and outmaneuvered by the superior gunship

>>14914733
>The other team?
In Girls und Panzer the final boss team brought all heavy and medium heavy tanks and tank destroyers because they expected to be facing the Russian team with T-34/85s and IS-2s and KV-2, but instead they ended up facing a bunch of poorfags whose flagship tank was a Panzer IV.

>>14914733
>they could tip the scales of the war.
not really. They already lost when they invaded poland. Everything else was just stretching time to the defeat.

>>14914733
>(I agree that the T34 was a supreme design)
The T34 is actually a very overrated tank by decades of propaganda as "the tank that won WW2", it has a lot of design problems going for it as much as Shermans and PanzerIV

>if Germans rolled with Panzer 4's in bigger numbers (especially the latest versions) and only going Tiger/Panther when absolutely necessary (so, against T34/85 or something) they could tip the scales of the war.
I have read that and is always basically "medium tanks > heavy tanks, lol Germany was so dumb" which is retarded, Germany already lost the war at that point, having 3 times more panzerIV won't matter shit if the Allieds still outproduce you 20:1 and you lack both supplies and manpower to keep the military machine going, also the whole "medium > heavy tank" falls flat when the soviets were mass producing IS-series in the thousands, making the argument moot

>>14914773
>whose flagship tank was a Panzer IV
They also brought a Tiger (Porsche version which had a tendency to set itself on fire for no apparent reason) with them.

>>14903889
desu lots of grunts never really learned properly how tanks looked, following D-day allied tankers kept reporting they saw Tigers when they were actually seeing Panzer IVs.

>>14914785
>They already lost when they invaded poland.

Apparently Dunkirk is a city in Poland.

>>14915028
shut up you pompis dick

>>14915046
Just pointing out that the Island-French were consistent in their anti-Slav-policy.

>>14914988
Worse, they couldn't even see the tanks, assumed they were Tigers, were actually StuGs sniping from cover.

>>14904196
There's going to be a streaming of a supercut of the series and OVAs.

>>14914656
>you poor soul

?

>>14914785
More like picking the fight with the reds.

>>14903954
Should have not improperly stowed that extra ammo outside the ammo-bin like you did there britbong.

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>>14904196
>watch GuP

>>14914747
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_attack_on_Karbala

>tfw useless monkey model slavshit deathtraps defeated 31 multi million dollar superior gunships

When will you realize tanks are as relevant as ever?

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>>14916862
>mfw STUPID MURKENS!

>>14913663
Explain please.

>>14916862

It wasn't the tanks that shot down the one (1) gunship, it was 57mm AA guns.

The tanks themselves did horribly against the gunships, losing twelve (12).

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>why not both.jpg

>>14914679
>it was expensive
>>14914733
>only going Tiger/Panther when absolutely necessary
The Panther was NOT much more expensive than the Pz IV, and nowhere near as expensive as a Tiger I or Tiger II. In fact excluding the tank destroyer variants, the number of Panthers produced exceeded that of the Pz III and almost reached the Pz IV.

Despite everything about it appearing as a heavy tank to the Allies, the Germans really did intend it to be the medium tank successor to the Pz IV both at the strategic level, with its expected production numbers, and at the tactical level, with Panthers operating under medium tank doctrine as opposed to the tactics of the Tiger.

Of course, it came at the cost of insane reliability issues that were never really resolved and were made even worse when it initially was rushed into service. Hilariously, the heavier Tiger I ended up having a greater percentage of maintained/combat-ready tanks at the end of its service than the Panther.

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the Jagdpanther look sexy.

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>>14903960
>Melconian General: "Go to hell."
>Bolo: "We're already in hell."

>>14920079
There was the issue of questionable design choices on the panther that hampered it more than rushed production
>Aero engine lightened far too much
>straight-cut gears in the final drive
>insufficient turret traverse motor

The later Tiger marks resolved many mechanical issues and were rather dependable as far as heavies went. It was the final drive that did in many Panthers and this was never rectified. France nearly sent part of its massive Panther fleet to Indochina but they realized they hadn't the sheer volume of parts required to keep them combat ready (read; mountains of final drives and gearsets).

>>14920489
>final drive

They can just upgrade it like they did with the Jagdpanther, but for some reasons they didn't.

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>>14919993

Every time I see a design that has more than two track loops I'm reminded of my hatred of people who have never had to work on a tracked vehicle but try to design them.

Pro-tip: 50% of all tank repair is track replacement.

>>14920489
>Aero engine
>in a tank

And here I thought that was an exclusively Murken mistake.

>>14921705
Another failure?

>I'm reminded of my hatred of people who have never had to work on a tracked vehicle but try to design them

You must have aneurysms over the Murken defense industry.

>>14921856

Many tanks designs in the 20's and 30' had what originally were aircraft engines as their powerplants.

There's no such thing as an "aero engine", only "engines" that can be put to aero designs.

An engine doesn't care if it's spinning a propeller or spinning a drive wheel, it just wants to spin.

>>14921866

I've always wanted to meet you in person. It's just so obvious when you post that I can't help but wonder how you haven't been able to do ANYTHING different since?

>>14921866
>You must have aneurysms over the Murken defense industry.
Danish, mate. The Leopard 2 throws tracks with the worst of them.

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>>14903197
Tanks are the closest thing we'll have to irl mecha for a very long time. Also sometimes tanks are cute.

>>14921944
Kekveh looks like something a little kid would draw if asked to draw a tank, adorbs.

>>14914791
>The T34 is actually a very overrated tank by decades of propaganda as "the tank that won WW2", it has a lot of design problems going for it as much as Shermans and PanzerIV

The T-34 was revolutionary for it's sloped armour design, which basically shrugged off Pak 36 shells, it's huge caliber gun that could penetrate the armour of any German tank, and the Soviets were producing them in pretty huge numbers towards the end of the war.

>>14922958
That doesn't negate its many problems.

>>14922958
>revolutionary for it's sloped armour design
The slopped armor design was probably the best thing going for it though french tanks had slopped armor before the T-34

>it's huge caliber gun that could penetrate the armour of any German tank
The shell had low velocity, reducing the penetration. It had problems penetrating the still flat armor of upgraded Panzer 4s, let alone stuff like Panthers and Tigers

There are stuff many people seem to ignore about the tank like the horrible crew space (causing problems to reload the gun), horrible optics and lack of cupola (it was almost blind) and lack of radio (so it was also deaf), 2-men turret (the commander was in charge of shooting the gun, unlike the 3-men turrets used by the germans)
There is a reason there have multiple versions fixing some of the mistakes after all.

>>14922958
Neither of those first two things are true. Sloped armor is OLD at that point. And NO it did not shrug off German shells, and the metallurgy of the armor was awful as all Russian steel is and was.

>>14923184
I remember reading that Russians actually freferred the lend lease meme tanks despite being not as great on paper.

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Ah, Bolos.

Something that comes to my mind as of late.
Is Panzer IV the Zaku II of tanks?

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I know she didn't do very well but damn it she is just so adorable.

>>14923220
The T-34 is the very definition of the meme tank though

>>14923220
Depends on which tanks you're referring to. The Valentine was a mixed bag; it was appreciated for its low target profile, mechanical reliability and relatively thick armor, but its impotent gun, anemic engine and agonizingly low top speed left much to be desired. The Matilda was ill-suited to Eastern Front conditions and had certain quirks that made maintenance a pain by virtue of prompting bothersome company representatives to jump all over the mechanics' cases when they went about repairing them. The M3 light was considered undergunned (true, western Allies agreed), underarmored (also true, exacerbated by its retarded high target profile), prone to lighting up (because gasoline), logistically unaccommodating (required high-octane gasoline when Soviet facilities could only manage to refine diesel and barely ghetto-level octane fuel), short-ranged due to lousy fuel economy (compounded by the preceding fault), prone to self-entrenchment (narrow tracks = high ground pressure), etc., etc., etc. and so on and so forth and the like. The M3 medium was referred to as the "grave for seven brothers", which should be all you need to know about that. The M4 was particularly reputed for its ergonomics, reliability, functionality, quality control, etc., but was referred to by many as "the best tank for peacetime service."

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>>14911423
Because mechanisms break. And that means you're nothing but a sitting target. And that also means less crew members, which means in sustained operations, the crew gets less sleep.

Less sleep means more tired. More tired means mistakes will be made. Mistakes made equals people die.

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>>14921944
Those are some Advance Wars-tier proportions.

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>>14923524
Ostwind, reporting!

>>14924164
>Blue, Yellow and Green had WW2 aesthetic stuff
>Red had modern day aesthetic for no reason

>>14924193

>Sherman
>Modern

Maybe for Israel

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>>14924164
Yeah, when I first saw the image I thought it was just some cute drawing of an irl tank.
But then I looked it up and it was actually exactly how it looked.

>>14911423
It's faster and more reliable than autoloaders, plus you have an extra man to help with maintaining the tank.

>>14914747
Until you need heavy firepower that can move quickly and not get knocked out by artillery easily.

>>14921877
All tracked vehicles throw their tracks and it's always at the worst bloody possible times when it's raining and wet and you just want to sleep or resign your commission there and then because you fucking did this already not twelve hours ago on the other track but you have to keep going.

I loved my time in, but in all honesty fuck tracks.

>>14924131
>Because mechanisms break.

Pic related.

>>14924164
>Yanks
>red
>Soviets
>not red

How could they screw that up so badly?

>>14924164
Yellow Comet's heavy kinda looked like a KV2 iirc

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>>14924510
>kinda
It pretty much was.

>>14923515
Yeah, pretty much.
Both produced in large numbers but eventually far outnumbered by their enemies' (inferior)equivalent, both go through a ton of upgrades and specialized variants throughout their service life, used by nazis and space nazis.

In terms of appearance though the zaku II has little resemblance to a panzer, zeon suits look more like Russian tanks, thanks to all the round, cast steel parts and green color, feddie suits look much more like a wielded together panzer.

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>>14924685
>eventually far outnumbered by their enemies' (inferior)equivalent
But GMs were canonically all-around superior to Zeon's Zakus and Doms.

>>14924754
Then GM is T34 then. Simple.

>>14924210
In game they didnt use shermans

>>14924754
>>14924807
Then why are they consistently seen being useless piles of scrap that almost always get curb stomped by superior Zeon suits?

Those specs are just Federation propaganda, no different to Soviet sekrit dokuments ))))))))

>>14924210

The MLRS seemed more out of place to me