Io Flemming did nothing wromg

Better than the other Gundam shit airing around the same time

So what was the deal with Io and that captain lady? I kind of lost interest with the series, so I don't know if they ever really go into that.

>>14898456
>"teen gets cool robot but whines all series long except the final battle where he decimated an entire army"
Your newness is showing. There's more series where that DOESN'T happen than there is where it does.

>>14898534
You mean Gundam: *teleports behind you and draws katana* (Gundam Wing), G Gundam (Dragon ball Mecha), or Gundam: return of the fedora (IBO)? Because a majority of the series fallows the format I stated earlier, with only a few exceptions.

>>14898478
They had the hots for each other when they were younger, but she got a promotion to captain because she comes directly from money. Io is the son of Moore's Mayor, but aside from that, he holds no real position of influence.

Since she's his commanding officer, they can't interlope. Also, Io's adrenaline junkie-ness is something she understands, but finds unattractive in war, so she has conflicting feelings about him.

>>14898578
And she's turned to drug abuse to deal with well, losing every semblance of her past, short of Io.

>>14898556
>*teleports behind you and draws katana* (Gundam Wing)
>gundam wing
>WING
its like you never saw it.

>>14898456
Io did the right thing by slaying Zeeks with shit taste in music.

>>14898600
The Jackson 5 Gundam pilots were trained from childhood. They don't bitch. They just stand around being really into themselves. Lesse' though-

0080: Gundam test pilot
0083: Kou is pretty ready to kill Zeeks anytime.
08th MS Team: pretty bitchy, not "dropped in the seat" though
Zeta: Kicked in the face into the seat, bitches
Thunderbolt: field promoted and likes the ass jiggle in the seat
Unicorn: subliminally prepared for the seat, dropped in it and bitches.
00: Wing redux, more bitching due to attempting characterization


I won't speak on ones I didn't watch

>>14898623
Unicorn to me had the best "experimental" mobile suit. It was not fucking colored at all and looked like it still needed some testing. It really fit the description of an experimental weapon unlike most of the other RX designated mobile suit, which looked like the were all ready to fight and were fully tested and tuned.

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>>14898623
>00: Wing redux
>people still believe this

I like the contrast between the violent action sequences and the upbeat old-timer pop music. Like the first 2 minutes of the second episode that's a dream flashback to Zeon decimating the Thunderbolt sector with the cheery folksy-pop tune playing as background music.

thunderbolt is a pretty cool guy
eh kills zeeks and doesn't afraid of anything

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ver ka when?

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>>14903806
When the mangaka finish's the story and Bandai decides it wants more money.

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Was the Psycommu Zaku piloted by a girl? Are all unnamed Newtypes also girls?

>>14903806
>>14903821
having a ver ka with the back back sled thing wpuld make a top tier kit

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>>14903849
no, it was piloted by a fuccboi

>>14898456
I though it was good but painfully edgy a lot if the time.

>>14898456
A good baseline for the story, very nice take on MS combat.

The only problem is the mangaka. The guy has a habit of taking everything up to full retard, which is applied to both good and bad things. Sometimes he does very cool things, other times it comes out flat-out plain.
Ref. Moonlight Mile

>>14898623
>08th MS Team: pretty bitchy, not "dropped in the seat" though
Shiro is the opposite of the standard progression, though. At the beginning of the show he's a professional soldier who hates Zeeks, and it's only after the halfway point that he becomes an idealist who wants to save everybody.

>>14898456
Only thing he did wrong was fail to beat a Zaku in a Gundam. The only reason nobody considers him a laughingstock is because the Federation won the war anyway.

Also because Christina Mackenzie was the first gundam pilot to be a laughing stock in that regard. Helps that she's a woman, which makes her even less effective.

>>14898456
>decimated
This word doesn't mean what you think it does.

great series

>>14906563
Neither of them failed to take out their respective Zaku though. The gundams just got destroyed in the process. The one Io faced wasn't exactly a normal zaku either.

IO DECIMATES HIS FOES WITH THE POWER OF ~COOL JAZZ~~

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>>14903806
I know its a fictional anime with robots in space but that gundam looks so out of place within that uc timeline. Did the manga artist NEED his own originally designed gundam for his series or something?

its a fucking figma gundam ffs

>>14906563
Preptime bro

>>14898456
>Io Flemming did nothing wromg

Because Thunderbolt isn't canon, he did nothing at all, right?

>>14898456
Made me want to relive the 80s/10

>>14898613
His taste was equally terrible.

>>14906662
He still lost though. Which again would make him a laughingstock if not for the fact that Zeon loses anyway.

Thunderbolt is so pointless even the ending admits it.

>>14907644
And yet so good.

>>14907069
katoki came up with it i think. i think its cool. i wouldnt say ots necessarily advanced, its just a bunch of balls.

>>14907644
it's great

>>14907644
He lost but also neutralized the Psycho Zaku.
>Thunderbolt is so pointless even the ending admits it.
Oh bullshit, the EF went on and ended the conflict after Thunderbolt.

This is definitely not as pointless as 0080.

i love it

>>14908389
>This is definitely not as pointless as 0080.

And undoubtedly nowhere near as good.

>>14898623
>00: Wing redux, more bitching due to attempting characterization
What bitching? Setsuna and Celestial Being were ready to fucking die to end war

>>14909649
The Celestial Being members were really bad at getting along. Tieria gets better. Ish.

>>14908389
Yes. Yes they did. Do you know where else you can see that they did?

0079.

So thank you again for validating the truth that Thunderbolt is another pointless sidestory.

>>14910388
Well, Thunderbolt is an AU, so it's independent from 0079.

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>>14910404

>>14903806
Why do you want Bandai to use precious plastic to produce something so ugly that it should not belong in this world?

>>14910388
Actually, Thunderbolt shows a different take and different battles at ABQ compared to 0079, so you would be missing out Thunderbolt-verse if you aren't watching 0079.

>>14910960
>so you would be missing out Thunderbolt-verse if you aren't watching TB*

>>14910360
>Take a bunch of sociopath child soldiers and stick them in bleeding edge weapons
>There is friction between members

All things considered they worked well together barring a couple hiccups like Neil's revenge boner and Lyle's regular boner.

>>14898556
>Gundam: *teleports behind you and draws katana* (Gundam Wing)

I bet you also assume Duo is the edgiest pilot in Wing because he pilots the Deathscythe.

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>>14910960
>Implying anybody wants to read the manga where zeon wins the war

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>>14911184
On the contrary, faggot.

It's time to make Earth great again!

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>>14911184

>>14911184
They lose, though.

Stop perpetuating this meme

>>14911650
Half of Zeon forces are still fighting.

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>>14911654
Correction; Half the Zeon forces left on EARTH are still fighting, which are about as numerous as the forces in the UC we've come to be familair with; bands of various sizes roaming/hiding around the continents, particularly africa, and a good number of Zeon's Navy still lurking the oceans.

The only thing Thunderbolt added was the idea that the naval element of the remnants are using a Dolos as a hub, which is as outlandish in Thunderbolt as it is in UC proper, but not entirely out of the realm of possibility.

The idea that The Zeon Remnats in Thunderbolt are bigger than they are in mainstream UC is a load of fanfiction from /m/.

>>14911672
Regular UC does not say even half of Zeon forces left on Earth are still fighting by the time 0079 ends.

>>14911672
Why does a lot of (crazy) shit go down in the South China Sea?

>>14911680
Buddhist faction.

>>14911680
Everyone around the area is batshit insane because of the heat and the typhoons.

>>14911693
Vietnamese here, you really think that?

Sound hilarious.

I wonder what is normal country by your standard.

>>14911697
Flip, actually. I guess it's just this place, you guys are cool.

>>14911701
You guys are cool though, wish we have someone like Duerte.

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>>14911679
You're right; Gundam Senki outright says that -most- of the Zeon forces left on Earth after the war were still active, not half. The manga adaptation was actually pretty conservative compared to the game

>>14911709
Source?

>>14911713
the game

>>14911791
Screenshot?

>>14911709
There's also the dozen or so sidestories Zeon remnants play a part in.

I used to think the plot of 0081 was bullshit because it cheapened what made 0083 so special in regards to how the Titans were formed, but since then, I've kind of mellowed out.

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>>14911709
>Gundam Senki outright says that -most- of the Zeon forces left on Earth after the war were still active, not half.
That's not really all that much. The war had mostly gone to space by then.

That said, I don't see what makes Thunderbolt so special. Zeon Remnants are doing the same shit they've always been doing.

>>14911713
One of the briefings mentions that the Zeon's defeat was mostly Federation propaganda and that they needed units like Phantom Sweep to deal with the Zeon forces left on Earth.

I'm not sure where the "most" bit came from, but half the game's plot revolves around the idea that the Zeon remnants were far more numerous and well-equipped than the Federation originally thought when they began disarmament, and that Phantom Sweep was formed as a means to combat them without having to mobilize the EFGF. That's why Hughes and his team get all the latest and greatest.

>>14911848
Thunderbolt is special because both sides are actually competent as fuck, and there are significant changes in MS for both sides.

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>>14911859
>Thunderbolt is special because both sides are actually competent as fuck
Both sides are competent as fuck in the main timeline too, what's your point?

Besides, the only "sides" we're seeing are the Spartan and the remnant force Daryl's with. Of course they're competent; they're the protagonists. There's the few ships we in space, but they aren't doing so hot.

>>14911898
No, the EF in the main timeline is not competent, especially in 0079 era, not to the point of Thunderbolt.

>There's the few ships we in space, but they aren't doing so hot.
Well, the only one we see tries to destroy the Thunderbolt team with a kamikaze nuke attack, so they aren't incompetent.

>>14911197
It's so weird how Zeon can hide on Earth with dozens of mobile suits, and the EF can't just use like satellite imaging or even planes to just find them.

>>14912033
Do they even have satellites left in UC?

The war is still raging on.

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>>14911898
>>14911919
>No, the EF in the main timeline is not competent, especially in 0079 era, not to the point of Thunderbolt.
Motherfucker, how do you think they won the war?

The Federal Forces are a fucking great military with damn good pilots. It's not until 0083 where they grow complacent.

>>14912045
EF only won the war because they have the goddamn number.

Especially in 0079 where GM are literally mooks.

>>14912050
>I didn't watch 0079.

>>14912050
Are you implying they're not "mooks" in Thunderbolt? That's blatantly wrong.

>>14912071
0079 where the friendlies are next to fucking useless?

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>>14912050
GM pilots were competent as fuck in First Gundam, newfag.

>>14912075
They are definitely not mooks in Thunderbolt, as it shows in ABQ.

>>14912077
Yeah, they are still mooks dying by the thousands (?), dude.

Gato alone holds the tide.

>>14912082
You mean in December Sky where not a single GM gets a kill, but entire teams are wiped out by a Psycommu Zaku (piloted by a literal who) and get sniped by a cripple?

>>14912093
Time to read the manga, friendo, the ABQ battle.

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>>14912085
The GMs destroyed in MSG amount to a few at Jaburo, the ones destroyed by the Big Zam, an an occasional shot of one getting rekt at A Baoa Qu. Beyond that, they were pretty much steamrolling Zeon whenever they were onscreen.

Zakus, Doms, and Gelgoogs were the mooks in MSG, especially in the last few days of the war when the Federation had already killed all of the good pilots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1Qg2k_t5hk&feature=youtu.be

>>14912121
But Gato himself holds an entire fleet of GM with his Dom to cover the retreat.

>>14912130
That's because he's Anavel Fucking Gato. There's a reason he has a reputation.

If the rest of the Zeon forces were as impressive, he wouldn't be famous, would he?

Also, he's not in First Gundam, which is what that poster was talking about. In 0079, GMs and their pilots were portrayed as a competent force against the Zeon forces, and not just because of numbers. GMs were besting mano e mano quite often.

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>>14912130
>comparing the actions of one of Zeon's top Aces pilot to the average Zeke

>>14912163
>If the rest of the Zeon forces were as impressive, he wouldn't be famous, would he?
He was famous because he killed way more than the average zeon pilots.
>In 0079, GMs and their pilots were portrayed as a competent force against the Zeon forces, and not just because of numbers. GMs were besting mano e mano quite often.
In most of their scenes, they use number to just shoot the Zaku en mass actually.

https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/hulu/?srp=3

>>14912189
>In most of their scenes, they use number to just shoot the Zaku en mass actually.
nice fanfiction

>>14912189
>In most of their scenes, they use number to just shoot the Zaku en mass actually.
Funny you should say that, since the times when they tried to zerg rush a single target were the times they were btfo the most

>>14912209
They have the number for it so it's just a matter of statistics.

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>>14912209
>In most of their scenes, they use number to just shoot the Zaku en mass actually.
This. The scenes in MSG where GMs died most often were when they tried to attack in larger numbers. It's usually one-on-one where we see them excel

In the Origjn Manga, they're straight-up lubeless Zeek sodomizers.

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>>14912229
>GM laden with missiles.
>Ichiro Itano on Origin's staff as Battle Choreographer

Oh god, I really hope they end up adapting the entirety of the manga.

I really hope Amuro equips those missile pods.

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>>14898456
I wish they would finish it. Reading mango is for nerds when that level of animation exists.

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>>14906563
>failed to beat a zaku

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>>14907370
The beginning of the Jazz song isn't half bad

The "crescendo" is pretty low-tier desu

All the good songs literally happen during all of Daryl's parts

>>14909642
>nowhere as good
Bullshit

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>>14911184
This

>>14912328
>Origin is getting adapted

Sauce?

>>14912628
They're already doing the loum arc, and at an event in england, they said if it was successful enough, they want to adapt the whole thing.

>>14912628
There are four hour-long episodes already out, anon.

>>14913199
thick

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I like him

Is the compilation December Sky or the individual ONA's better for achival purposes?

>>14917291
December Sky.

Unlike the Compilation movies, it doesn't cut anything out and adds a few scenes.

>>14917299
>Compilation movies
You mean stuff like the 0079 movies?

>adds a few scenes.
Thanks friendo

>>14898456
shit try hard edge lord tier muh nigger music.

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>>14898623
>he didn't watch turn a

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>>14917312

great show

>>14912085
>Gato
a shit

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Daily Reminder: Io didn't do nufin wrong

>>14919331
crazy

>>14921321
he a fucking cunt

>>14898456
I lament the fact that the crazy blonde bitch with the back tats will never be animated.

>>14921321
I feel like he's just too SAWFT for a "vet"
Spacenoids are literal bitches I swear

>>14924392
Too what now?

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>>14924085
If you're talking about Bianca, she's actually a redhead.

Also, there's rumors of more Thunderbolt getting animated, so we might still get her.

>>14924418
>Bianca
slut

>>14924411
He's basically a bitch

>>14926665
this

>>14928992
they're so stupid

>>14923677
best hair

real subtle naming there

>>14898456
I thought the OVA was alright aside from the melodrama with Lo's GF

>>14931827
Lo's GF wants Daryl's dick

>>14924418
Thunderbolt S2 is currently in production

>>14932106
Source or you're full of shit

>>14932110
Derringer's generally reliable.

Fucker always seems to have reliable insider info on upcoming gunpla.

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>>14932106
12 episodes?

>>14935064
8

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>>14935533

>>14924418
More like copper

Why is everybody shitting themselves over the psycho zaku?

Is it powered by meme magic or something? It's directly implied the cripple is a new type and an exceptional pilot.

There's no guarantee ANYBODY can fly it like he can.

>>14935533
What a fucking G!!!

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>>14937418
Oh boy! The Thuderbolt version of Shiro arrives!

>>14938077
Io Flemming is best Gundamu....

>>14937749
>It's directly implied the cripple is a new type and an exceptional pilot.
Actually, he was an amazing sniper. As a regular combat pilot, he was average at best, untalented The big hubub about the Re-use Psycho Device (which is what they're really impressed by, not necessarily the Zaku itself) is that it took a mediocre pilot and turned him into a one man army. The Psycho Zaku itself is just an MS-06R with a bunch of shit slapped on to capitalize on the RPD's functionality.

>>14938313
he became a true ace in the Acguy

>>14938313
He pilots the Acguy like a fucking pro m8

>>14938480
>>14938324
Not the previous anon, but I saw in the December Sky movie he was in a Gelgoog at A Baoa Qu and could barely manage to control it with his typical hands. What changes in the Acguy?

>>14938500
He dodges fire from an entire base, several mobile suit squads, then destroys three special GMs at the same time single handed.

The pilot watching him pretty much jizzes himself about how he's "a real newtype"

>>14938512
Is he in a Re-use setup? or is he throwing around some new breadhooks?

>>14938521
Breadhooks.

>>14935533
I still wonder why the rest of their group didn't just shoot Io.

>>14938732
They can't. They're all set up at different points around the colony pointing in one direction. In order to shoot Io, they'd have to reorient their equipment, which would take far too long.

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>>14938521
Bread hooks but It looks like the control yolks have been slightly adjusted to accomodate.

>>14938732
He used the data on the Dom to find their blindspots and flew out that way.

>>14935533
sexy

>>14940357
Is Sean dead in the OVA?

>>14941000
I feel bad for her desu she saw some seriously fucked up shit

>>14911184
>>14912617
Is this because everything will end in peace putting a stop to the endless waltz of war, peace and revolution?

Why do you hate peace?

What did Io do wrong exactly?

I am a zekefag but Io is just doing his job.

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>>14941000
punching bag

No but really who the fuck was running the ops? Who the hell thought bull rushing was a good idea on a sniper position?

>>14942531
The preferred terminology is "close and destroy", not that the GM rush was a particularly stellar example of it.

>>14942531
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So what kind of pilot would be in a Gundam series /m/? Are you more of a idealist or a realest when it comes to war?

>>14942874
Literally Io.
I'm just in it for the thrill of it, I live and die for it.

>>14941078
Ah come on Jack. Just give war a chance.

>>14942531
Given the circumstances?

The only other remotely viable solution would require a warship's megaparticle cannon.

>>14911709
I thought that this manga wasn't translated.

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Let say we swaped rivals with the original 0079.

Would Char even stand a chance against Io?

>>14943599
yes. Io was more berserk-style on his piloting, and his gundam was more overpowered than the original 0079 gundam, but he wouldn't have standed a chance against char on a gundam vs. red-zaku fight.

okay, maybe he would have standed a chance because the gundam was superior in every way to the zaku II, but he would have lost it on the gelgoog.

>>14943630
bullshit

>>14943599
Char was one of the leading aces of the entire war, Io was just the ace on a strategically insignificant front. Io was literally fighting a unit of soldiers too injured to be fighting else where, but he was still pretty good though.

>>14943630
I think the FA Gundam still has more speed than Char's Zaku 1, II.

I would even argue that Io would still beat the Gelgoog

Against the Zeong, we'll it end the same. A draw

Honestly, Aces or not. Char can't win 1v1 battles

>>14943690
We'all have to wait for season 2, but we're all underestimating Io's skills.

For someone who isn't a newtype, he's proven to be better than 95% of all EFSF pilots

I'm an 08th MS fag, but Io would wipe the floor with everybody that isn't a newtype. This would include those in the future like Kou, Gato, Christina, etc

Char is the only exception to the newtype rule because he repeated gets shitted on regardless. I'm convinced that other Zeon aces are better than him. I.E Shin, Johnny

anyone got the edited itano circus?

>>14943732
yep

>>14942874
I'd be the kind of guy who lets pilots eject without trying to kill them and aimed to disable suits instead of going for killshots (if I have the luxury), but not the kind of guy who bitches about understanding and pacifism. I'm here to fight a war, but if I have the luxury to fight it in a more "civilized," fashion, I'll do so; but I'm also not stupid enough to realize that war can be really dirty.

But I wouldn't be berserker-level into it like Io or a war criminal like Ali. It'd be fun when it's fun, but I'd be trying hard not to lose myself to it.

>>14903806
HG has been announced so....
maybe next year