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ALL AROUND ME ARE FAMILIAR FACES

WORN OUT PLACES
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>tfw you fucked everyone in the room

Must be a weird feeling I'll probably never feel
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>Wasted potential the VN
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Have anyone gotten a Yui from this event? I can't get it to drop.
I did manage to get the other SR though, the fortress class dropped it.
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>>14895880
Why is Kei so best
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>>14895880
so how was that new SM VN that just came out?
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>>14895992
Did 24sta 46 times and zero drop.
Then did 30sta 5 times and got a drop. Then got a second drop after 12 times of 30sta.
Didn't get the other girl though.
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>>14896088
See>>14895919. Though it smashes quite a number of assumptions about some characters.
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>>14896088
Iris route is the only good route unless you like Lise and only Lise.
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>>14895880
>ALL AROUND ME ARE FAMILIAR FACES

Welcome to anime.
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>>14895992
I got both drops from the last one. I had no event tsf.
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>>14895992
I've gotten 2 Yui's and 1 of whoever the SF original girl is for the event
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>>14895880
Schwarzesmarken sluts added to SF when?
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>>14896880
>sluts
Fucking rude
>when
soon
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>>14896881
>Fucking rude
But I didn't name them, it could be just 2 or more

>>14896881
>soon
Nice
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What do you do of your gold after maxing your base?
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>>14896996
Hookers and blow
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>>14896996
Jesus, turn up the graphics.
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>>14897022
That's the jpg extension. Screenshots look shittier when you save them in that.
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Does anyone have Cui CGs
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>>14895919
>>14896088
Martyrs was a mistake
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>>14897047
no, the anime was
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>>14897030
It was posted in a previous thread. You'd have her fat big thighs in plain sight.
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>>14897049
They handle the VN in the most cheap and disappointing way
like the anime
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>>14897065
I expected little and I was still disappointed.
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>>14897078
I feel the same
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>>14897030
This is the only one that got posted. No other variations so far

http://i.imgur.com/2dwDw5r.jpg
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>when age's lazyness reaches the point that they probably considered one decent Stasi to be enough humanize the whole lot.
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>>14897189
Farka is cute! CUTE!
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>>14897025
No, it's not.
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>>14897289
Well, the jpg doesn't help.

Probably ticked the performance option.
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Did we ever get anything more than general summaries of the routes?
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>>14898148
nope. play it for yourself, torrents have been up for a while
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Nice, MC anals the new SF girl in her scene, already cheating on Minori huh.
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Does anybody have Total Eclipse VN sprites pack? I found CGI pack in Kimi Nozo Guy's stash part 6, but there are only BG and pre-rendered scenes. At least could anybody explain how to extract that stuff from game archives?
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Wait so how do you get this card. I don't see her in any of the gacha's.
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Got a Rinka from the 30 Stam, still hunting for a Yui
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>>14898796
Got 2 Rinka and only one Yui. Damn this event is going really bad.
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>>14895992
I got one and gave up because the missions are too annoying.
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H-scene when?
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>>14898664
To the best of my knowledge, the rioX tool is as yet incapable of extracting sprites from Total Eclipse onwards and the tool doesn't seem to be actively maintained. So you're out of luck unless the tool creator updates it or opens his sources for someone else to update it.
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>>14898777
She is rainbow chest drop. I don't know how low are the drop rates for her. I got her and Yui after a few tries in the final stage. I'm glad limit breaking is easy for SR cards.
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>>14898889
NEVER
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>>14898895
It's approx similar to Yui I think, cuz I get two rainbow chest drops with two cards and two gold chest drops with one Yui card and one gold XP-up (fuck!!) in final mission. And in total after a lot of attempts.
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>>14898796
I just got one Rinka. ANd Already had 4 Yui's. Well I don't limit brake Yui thou. I locked one and feed the rest to my SSR Yui for Skill Up.

I must say SF heroines are really strong and useful cards for sortie missions.

Minori is only group heal pilot so far and Rinka skill provide ATK up to entire group so she' is like CP Sumika.
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>>14899045
I'm using both Rinka's and Sumika's skill at the same time while doing the 30AP quest. I think they stack because the boss dies in a second.
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>>14898889
I don't get her appeal
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>>14899068
Her appeal is, basically, that if you're a Muv-Negro you're desperate enough to fuck her bodypillow when it comes out for the low, low, low, low price of $399.99.

Or you have an Alternative, like one of the tired old whores in the OP; that's Extra though. Plus she'll be featured in that shitty browser game. Which means Unlimited faggotry will abound as they try to wrest every last shekel from this retarded fanbase.
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>>14898777
tfw still no rinrin ;_;
>>14899068
some choose their waifu from the main characters for a lot of content of her but they have to share her with many people. Some choose their waifu from the background characters to think they are the only ones with her, but they pretty much never get fanarts of her. Some go in-between and choose characters like sharon, minor but still present.
also some prefer women who know men.
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>>14899176
And then, the run after that, I get her. Noice.
I'm safe for this event (two days before it ends) but if DMM stays jew like that, removing friend bonus and no event tsf outside of special gacha, it will be hell to obtain new cards.
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>>14899306
Holy shit, in the end I got 3 rainbow chests in a row. It's happy hour or what? So I'm at 2 Yui and 3 RinRin now with 0 event tsfs.
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>>14899045
>feed the rest to my SSR Yui for Skill Up.
Didn'tbsome anon feed many swimsuit meiyas to SSR meiya and got like 2 skill level ups?
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>>14899398
sounds about right. you should only be guaranteed a level up if you feed a dupe
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>>14895919
Masrtyrs was really good, but you can't help feeling disappointed because of this.
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Is anyone even playing Strike Frontier anymore? I'm only getting like 2000 poverty points a day.
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>>14900382
Apparently there's 7300 or so on right now.
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>>14900382
>I'm only getting like 2000 poverty points a day.
Probably because you can't use the same friend over and over.
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>>14900411
That change is really breaking my balls.
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>>14900389
Is that a lot compared with other DMM games or is the game dying?
>>14900411
also friends don't give drop bonus anymore so no reason to use the same ally again and again.
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>>14900382
its in top 8 on +18 DMM.
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Man, giving a rifle to your leader is a bad idea during platoon battle.
After every hit, tsfs using swords/shields go back to you, then go back to the beta, hit it once then go back to you, etc. And since the leader is far then you lose a lot of dps.

Also, Rinrin is such a nice girl (even if it's sure to be dream)
>MC is fapping in his room alone
>she comes, tells him to continue then decides to help him by having sex with him
>but since she wants to give her first time when she'll get married, she tells him to go anal
>and since it will be a pain to clean, she tells him to come inside

>>14897022
Even in high quality mode, it looks bad. But it's because I was using the browser version. With android emulator, it looks like >>14897289
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>>14900616
Why are there so many dreams in SF? Why can't the guys just bang their harems? I'll be pissed if someone finds out that Cui's scene is a dream too. She DESERVES to get fucked.
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>>14900015
Destiny

Takamura-sama

She seems to have a similar aura to Meiya-sama about her.

So you were part of the samurai caste?

*In the middle of cooking lecture

Yes. However, don't mind it[the stature] and continue as is.

That's good-

It seems like she'll be a good friend...

If there's anything I can do, tell me. I'll do my best as "Imperial Guard".

*ERK*

Remember, Rinka's wanted by the Guard for Meiya Swimsuit pics.
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Welp, got my single yui, event over for me, etc.
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>every girl survives at least one route except for her, where she dies mentally crushed and in agony

>in the route where she's an ally, saves hero's life and tells him her ideals only to get backstabbed by him later after he hears a 15 year old's ideals

Why?
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>>14901281
Why does Axmann and Schmidt die in every route?

Because she's a villain, same as them, and villains die if you want to have a happy ending.
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>>14901284
She's an antagonist
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>>14901307
For the purposes of SM, she's a villain. In fact, the story builds her up as the most dangerous and threatening of all the stasi.
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>>14901351
For the purposes of SM, she's an antagonist.
>In fact, the story builds her up as the most dangerous and threatening of all the stasi.
No, Theo builds her up like that. Irisdina's route has the "story" build her up as pretty sympathetic.
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>>14901360
Doesn't Iris's route reveal that she was still salvageable in the end, and that she really wanted to be friends with Iris but considered it an impossibility?
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>>14901370
>considered it an impossibility?
They were working together against the BETA. Iris and Beatrix being friends again would only be an impossibility if shitters like Simone got their way.

You can tell in that conversation Iris really didn't want things to be as bad as they were between the two, and Beatrix expresses regret/melancholy as well.
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>>14901378
No, Beatrix said that she always considered the possibility of being friends again, even wanted it (shocking Iris), but didn't think Iris would ever accept, so them rekindling their friendship was an impossibility in hers (and Iris's) mind. One of the reasons why she's so regretful is that it turns out that she could have had Iris again this whole time and it takes her dying to reveal it.
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>>14901393
Beato had a hard life
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Just a heads up. I am gonna be boarding a plane back to "pass needed" country in 10 hours. Play nice, lest we get the thread purged like last time with all the NSFW SM Martyr shots.
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Uncensored CGs when?
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Is the ultimate moral of ML that some parts of humanity will never be able to put their interests aside for the greater good, and therefore for the greater good these parts must be culled?
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>>14901488
Nah it's more like
>treasure your innocent days, for they're a most precious part of one's existence
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>>14901488
That didn't work in SM. They killed all the self serving stasi and still ended up getting fucked.
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>>14901488
I think the ultimate moral of it, taking into account SM, Total Eclipse, and Alternative, is that some human beings will always be short-sighted (at best) or evil (at worst), but the rest of us need to find a way to triumph over whatever adversity we face regardless of that.
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>>14901501
Yeah, going through SM and it was shocking just how greedy, near sighted and despicable people like Axmann and Beatrix could be, and how willing they were to take advantage of a calamity to be kings for a day at the expense of everyone else. I'd want to call it unrealistic, but you see people like those two in positions of power in real life all the time.

Or with TE, how the RLF were a bunch of idealist, desperate people driven into a corner lead by a charismatic madman. You also see that in real life. In the end, there will always be power hungry people who take advantage of the desperation of others to profit themselves, often times making the crises even worse.
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>>14901546
>and Beatrix
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>>14901546
How would Easy Germany have turned out like if Beatrix, Schmidt, and Axmann had all died the day they joined the stasi?

Would they have held out longer without that trio screwing up everything with their powerplays?
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>Beatrix respected loyalty before all other traits, and conversely, considered betrayal, especially of loved ones or family, to be the greatest sin. Lise's own fealty to Theodor and strength of will in the face of adversity would be what originally attracted Beatrix to Lise for recruitment into the Werewolves.

Is this true? I mean, it didn't seem like she cared that much about her subordinates. If so, why did she have such a loyalty boner?
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>>14900616
Post the CGs
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Chink pride worldwide
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>>14901546
>>14901578
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>>14901578
>>14901546
>>14901814
Seems like /m/ agreed with Theo when he backstabbed her.
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>>14901814
>If so, why did she have such a loyalty boner?
Well. She saw Jurgen being killed right in front of her due to Iris betrayal.

So I guess it less carrying about people under her command and more fixation on making sure they will not backstab her. When they die they can no longer betray her so maybe this is why she doesn't care anymore about them.
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>>14902155
>When they die they can no longer betray her so maybe this is why she doesn't care anymore about them.

>贝姐眼见战线被步步逼退,于是命令狼人大队全体后撤,但自己却留了下来和爱姐单挑决斗。
>Beatrix realizes that Heim is shelling the area and that the Werewolves are at great risk of being out maneuvered/overwhelmed, so orders Theo and all the others to retreat, personally covering their escape. She then duels Iris 1v1.
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>>14902155
>>14902159
Eh, there's also the scene where she comforts Marai, even after getting the information she needed so that Marai would have one last happy moment before Beatrix mercy killed her, so she's probably not heartless, just in a place where having a heart is a liability (Schmidt even taunts her about it afterwards). She seemed kind of like she respected Marai's loyalty to her husbando, which was why Beatrix was kind of upset/nice to her (relatively).
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>>14902159
>>14902170
Ok I admit I can be wrong about it. It was just my speculation not opinion. I don't read moons so I lack all necessary information.
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>>14901546
>>14901578
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>>14902223
That just shows that Iris is empathetic to an old friend.
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>>14902453
Hmmm
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>>14902223
This scene is so heartbreaking. Iris ask her why did she became this way and Beatrix later says that all friends abandoned her. She must have felt very lonely after Jürgen died and Irisdina and possibly other people like walther abandoned her.
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>>14902453
>he didn't get the point of the Iris-route.
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>>14902587
>Herresgruppe
>TSF Kompanie
>[Schwarzesmarken]
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>>14901897
I only have 100% Rinrin: http://imgur.com/a/jSZid

>>14900616
I take that back. Rifles are great. I gave a sword to my leader and lost almost every time the 30 stamina. In fact I didn't realize that betas target your leader, so if you use a rifle and have a couple of tsts with swords/shields, they'll block the beta which will never attack since the leader will stay far from it. So easy victory.
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>>14902155
>>14902159
>>14902170
>>14902181

>In Irisdina route, Beatrix and Iris temporarily ally together against the BETA. Later, when the laser classes appear, Schmidt orders Beatrix to abandon them to death. Beatrix refuses, staying there and fighting to save people she knows will be her enemies again at great risk and even greater detriment just because she despises the idea of betrayals so much.
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>>14902725
Using missle type tsf as leader is better. Your allies won't run towards you and give better damage.
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>>14902950
I still don't get why Theo hates her more then Axmann.
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>>14902656

East Germany is her real home now, Vietnam a far-off, stinky memory
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>>14903172

He is also attracted to her so he cares more about her, in the wrong way.

The whole penetration scene was a metaphor.
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>>14900856

Does she have a "dere" phase? TE's anime mostly shows her as a bitchy noble while SF portrays her as a brocon.

On a second note, she's probably one of the most mediocre characters in the series, probably more mediocre than the Yokohama base guards.
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>>14903192

After Bridges beats her down TSF to TSF, her heart goes doki doki and she starts cooking for him.

Quickest way to a woman's heart, prove to her that your better than her.
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>>14903198

Is that seriously the main reason for her affection towards Yuuya?
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>>14903192
>On a second note, she's probably one of the most mediocre characters in the series, probably more mediocre than the Yokohama base guards.
Really, when you have all of SM to look at?
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>>14903178
I was pointing out the shitty German.
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>>14903230
See all I remember of the anime myself is

>WE ARE BOTH JAPANESE, WHERE'S YOUR JAPANESE MAN'S SPIRIT

>NO FUCK YOU I AIN'T NO JAP

>BUT

>FUCK JAPS, ESPECIALLY WHOEVER THOUGHT THE FUBUKI WAS A GOOD IDEA, LIKE SERIOUSLY FUCK THAT GUY WITH A RAKE MAKING YOUR MACHINE A CUNT TO FLY DOESN'T MAKE YOU BETTER IT JUST MAKES YOUR MACHINE A CUNT TO FLY

>G-G-GIT GUD SCRUB

>FUCKING JAP ENGINEERING, WHAT'S THE POINT OF HIRING AN AMERICAN TO FLY YOUR SHIT IF YOU KEEP DEMANDING THEY SHOW YOU THE ANCIENT JAPANESE MAN'S SPIRIT

I think it was somewhere between Yuuya eventually giving in to being a Jap and him having a real good point that Japanese TSF design was fucking retarded as hell that Yui splooshed herself. She found herself a Japanese man with a semblance of sanity, a true rarity in the setting.
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>>14902587

>Walther was 29

I get that the standard practice for any character over the age of 25 is to depict them like they're in their 60s most of the time, but really?
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>>14903271
He's the same age as Ketchup and Jurgen had he survived.
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>>14903277
It's my headcanon that Ketchup failed at being a TSF pilot, which is why he pushes to be a commander of his own TSF company and hates Jurgen's guts in BiS.
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>>14903237
>she can't even mercy kill her comrade to prevent her from being eaten alive by betas
>after that, she can't even fight back, she just stays there waiting for death
>she can't even kill betas in a simulation but instead get herself and all her team killed
>she's only in it thanks to her father's friend's nepotism because even her family name wouldn't have been enough otherwise
>she's trying to act alpha but become the average stupid tsundere after meeting Yuuya
>she's all muh gonna destroy our secret project before the betas come, to be sure nobody put their hands on it but she can't even do it and has to wait for Yuuya to save her sorry ass
>she only stays alive thanks to her father's watch
>after learning Yuuya is her half-brother, in their last encounter, she doesn't even tell him the truth, she is all, muh our swords will speak for us then sarabada
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>>14903271
That's what the BETAverse does to people.
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>>14903358
Latrova and Miira would like to have a word with you.
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>>14903323

>>after that, she can't even fight back, she just stays there waiting for death

In fairness, this is hardly something to nitpick her about.

What was she going to do against a horde of BETA with no operable TSF and armed with a pistol whose magazine she had mostly emptied in trying to mercy-kill her friend?
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>>14903323

As expected of a random noble tbqh. She'd definitely do better in life if the Takamura family had a legitimate male heir.

So since the Takamuras have Yuuya now, shouldn't Yui fuck off to Japan and stop failing at being a soldier?
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>>14903259
>FUCK JAPS, ESPECIALLY WHOEVER THOUGHT THE FUBUKI WAS A GOOD IDEA, LIKE SERIOUSLY FUCK THAT GUY WITH A RAKE MAKING YOUR MACHINE A CUNT TO FLY DOESN'T MAKE YOU BETTER IT JUST MAKES YOUR MACHINE A CUNT TO FLY

Takeru would just bitchslap him with a tied hand at the back in a shitty mass produced Fubuki
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>>14903403
Only because Takeru's skills have been honed through hours of playing videogames.
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>>14903415

Kurogane is just too strong
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Is there a place to farm battle log(low)? Why are they harder to get them battle log(medium)?
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>>14903403

To be fair, Bridges made some pretty good points
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So question /m/, why was Beatrix so retarded that she'd give a unit badge, MiG-23, and service pistol the same day she captured/recruited him, despite the other Werewolves' reservations?

Theo didn't even really want to be there; Lise tricked him into meeting Beatrix, and it's not like he tries to hide his hatred of her. Neither is it standard protocol, as the other Werewolves are all shocked at it.

Not to mention Theo's own history is extremely patchy. He's not known to be the type to be loyal. In fact, his profile would reveal him to have a history of being extremely selfish and antisocial.

And then she's shocked and saddened when Theo helps kill her near the middle of the route.

It just seems like only something a massively braindead person would do, let alone someone who has years worth of experience in her states internal spy service. At least put Theo on a vetting period or something before you start giving him all the fancy new toys and position to backstab you with.
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>>14903669
The whole situation is kind of weird. Takeru's squad all trained in Fubukis and none of them had any apparent trouble picking it up, presumably because that's the style of machine they started training in from scratch. Yuuya on the other hand is an experienced pilot used to machines with specific handling characteristics (i.e. American ones). Remind me again what the point was of having him test it? I forget.
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>>14903403
>Takeru would just bitchslap him with a tied hand at the back in a shitty mass produced Fubuki
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>>14903790
US and Japs collaboration attempt of the XFJ rpoject
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>>14903773
>>>/a/
Go away, we don't want to talk about that shitmarken
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>>14903798
Okay. Wasn't it for Japanese use though? It must have been, I can't imagine America needing it.
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>>14903773
One possible answer is that she truly trusted Lise and she vouched for him or that she believed that he would be grateful for all the trust and "special treatment" he got. The latter makes sense considering that she has a hard time acting "nice" and maybe thought that deeds would be clearer than words. It all backfired massively though, as both of them seem to be intrinsically incapable of getting along.
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>>14903803
I guess that makes a little sense, but she still comes off as stupid. Even Irisdina made Theo earn her trust before inviting him into the inner circle.
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>>14903801
Japs needed a decent 3rd TSF as the Type 00 is stupidly expensive and hard to make
the XFJ Shiranui ended up using American tech to help it improve its specs and combat performance to make a decent frontline unit

as a result, the Shiranuis Akane and the rest uses after the events of MLA are the mass produced version of the XFJ project
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>>14903810
Good writing isn't one of SMs strengths, and Martyrs didn't fix much. Hell it made some things worse.
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>>14903811
Okay, makes sense. Doesn't really follow why they had to have an American pilot if the handling difference is that big just because they were using some American technology in it.
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>>14903773
Because she thought she had him in her pocket by using Lise as a carrot on a stick, since she was the whole reason Theo agreed to go there and join up in the first place.
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>>14903819

That old guy had a hard on for Yuuya's mom and requested that her son be the test pilot.
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>>14903813
The first VN actually had really good pacing, writing, consistency and character development. The only downside was that it was very short. Martyrs for whatever reason is all over the place. It's longer, but you can tell they got lazy in places. You also see that it could have been so much better. It's pretty good, but it's still disappointing.

I blame the anime and delays (mostly the anime, since age seemed to have taken pains to marry the LN to the anime, which the pre-anime first VN did not do).
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>>14903820
So was she a manipulative asshole who deserved to die like some say?
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>>14903827
So Japanese nepotism again? I find that more amusing than I should.
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>>14903669

The first point is stupid (They just won't give it to rookies, they'll give it to veterans)

The second point does make more sense. It seemed like all the tests were more to make Bridges a better pilot than to make the XFJ a better TSF
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>>14903837
She tries to play nice at first, when it doesn't work, she tries to use fear and intimidation. It backfires.
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>>14903827

>her son

Also his
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>>14903843
>>14903837
Funny thing, Iris does the same shit at the beginning of SM.
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>>14903839
pretty much
he then falls in love with the fucking Shiranui and we know the rest of the story
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>>14903801
For the most part, yes.

The problem is that the Japanese kinda blew at making their own TSFs. The Shiranui was built to exacting specifications to the point it couldn't really be upgraded over its lifespan, and the Takemikazuchi, aside from being a cultural masturbation exercise reserved for the IRG, is both fucking expensive and stupidly designed with its

>first comes the masterpiece
>then we make the mass production models by cutting down on features and just making it shittier in select areas

design philosophy.

The whole thing with the XFJ project is meant to parallel the real world FSX project that resulted in the F-2A, which serves a rather important role in Japan's ability to fuck up enemy boats at a distance while also being a multirole fighter that can shoo away enemy air assets alongside the F-15J.
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>>14903851
>the real world FSX project that resulted in the F-2A

Oh

I thought it was to parallel the ATD-X?
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>>14903874
The FSX was very much America and Japan teaming up to build a fat F-16 derivative, sorta like how XFJ's most iconic iteration was pretty much a Shiranuified F-15ACTV.
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>>14903837
I don't follow why you're saying so quickly she deserves to die but okay.
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>>14903939
Because she kills people, or tries to, including some I really like. She's also and asshole who might be even more caustic then even Axmann.
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>>14903773
Lise vouched for him and werewolf TSFs have kill switch.
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>>14903964
>Because she kills people
So Theo deserves to die?
>or tries to
So Theo does deserve to die.
>She's also and asshole who might be even more caustic then even Axmann.
Can't believe I took you seriously for a minute.
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>>14903967
And she's apart of the stasi, her plan is horrible and crazy, she treats everyone like dirt, can't love anything except for a dead man's memory (even then she's kind of hypocritical since she's tearing down all his loved ones and standing for everything he opposed), and she's trying to kill people who are good or likable.

Does that make sense?
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>>14904007
>Does that make sense?
Yeah, it tells me you haven't read Martyrs or even bother to read spoilers about it. With your retard logic anyone who makes a frown in Stalin 2.0 himself and needs to be culled for whatever moralfaggotry reasons (hint: most of the cast of SM falls into this category, including Irisdina)

I don't get why you're trying to pretend you know something.
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>>14904007
your ignorance is amusing and pitiful at the same time.

here is your you
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>>14904003
I demand MORE.
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>>14904034
Looks like a masturbation scene. I wonder if she is being mind controlled, or if her fingers just feel that great.
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>>14904040
EROI. spoiler that shit
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>>14904011
What redeeming qualities does she have then? She's shown in a pretty clear cut menacing and unsympathetic light excepting her death scenes. I don't think once does it show her doing anything altruistic or nice, even if it is just to benefit her.

>>14904017
She's trying to kill his sister, all of his remaining friends (and sister) are opposing her, she's supporting the faction who's responsible for his death and the one that wants to enslave East Germany to Russia (granted, I don't think she actually believe in the Moscow Faction), opposes reunification and wants a dictatorship when everything seems to indicate that Iris's brother was following Katia's father (who wanted Germany to unite in a democratic regime).

Seems like she's totally the opposite of what Jurgen would have wanted.

>>14904020
Please, I have my arguments, (you) do not.
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>>14904043
>What redeeming qualities does she have then?
It's not about redeeming anything. You have fundamentally misappropriated her character traits and history and twisted them into something they are not. Unless you are actively choosing to ignore what has been said in the last few days, let alone the last year, there should be no reason that opinion should still be posted.

Go read Martyrs. Machine translate it if you have to. It's been clear for a while now that posting about it on /m/ or even /a/ is not effective in holding this discussion.
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>>14904043
>I don't think once does it show her doing anything altruistic or nice

for example she refuses to abandon 666th when they fight BETA when Schmitt orders her to go back to berlin, she saves theo when he is fighting irisdina, when rebels are about to shell the city she orders werewolves retreat and stays back to cover them and the list goes on.
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>>14904043

> She's shown in a pretty clear cut menacing and unsympathetic light excepting her death scenes.

Because she is the designated villain, she is a far better designed character than any of the mary sues in the protag's side and all she said became true in the future, even her plan worked when tried by another person with similar ideas in Muv-Luv.
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>>14904066
she's an antagonist
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>>14904079

I wish she was just an antagonist but she is the villain, that is the reason she dies in all the routes.

A villain doesn't need to be strictly evil, she has redeeming qualities.
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>>14904086
but she is an antagonist. villain implies she is responsible for most of the bad shit that goes on which only makes sense if you're like theo and believe she is responsible for everything bad that happened to him
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>>14904094

The VN show us Theo's point of view most of the time, that is why I say that, in the game you are supposed to be Theo.
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>>14904066
well things didn't get so bad by 2001 when Takeru comes to alt because humanity was making correct choices. Makes me think what choices would Takeru make if he appeared in SM fresh out of EXTRA and what would Kurogane do.

funfact: Germany aren't free like they were fighting for in SM. they are refugees now in other countries and treated as 2nd class citizens or worse. they are probably even forced to fight the BETA to obtain citizenship for any basic rights like Irma Thesleff from Walken's battalion.

and no she is not a villain she is just a scapegoat for protag to blame all of his problems on.
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>>14903841
>The first point is stupid (They just won't give it to rookies, they'll give it to veterans)
And therein lies the problem.

When attrition rates are terrible enough at it is, you don't need your mainline flagship fighter (and this is what the Shiranui was supposed to be) to be a fiddly clusterfuck that only veteran masters can draw the full potential out of without crashing.

What you want is something that is easy to fly and any conscript schmuck can pick up in a few weeks training and push to the edge of its performance envelope safely, and survivable enough that they will be able to make some rookie mistakes without dying and thus last long enough to gain the experience they need.

In short, you're training soldiers, not warriors. This was the difference between IJN and USN pilots in WW2.
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>>14904165
>What you want is something that is easy to fly and any conscript schmuck can pick up in a few weeks training and push to the edge of its performance envelope safely, and survivable enough that they will be able to make some rookie mistakes without dying and thus last long enough to gain the experience they need.
They have those already though, the TSF's they have are perfectly suitable for rookies. What they lacked was a high performance unit for skilled pilots that didn't break the bank, since as effective as the Takemikazuchi was in combat, it was horrendously inefficient economically and saddled with cultural baggage that restricted who could use it (royalty or royal guards only).
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>>14903841
WHAT IS THE POINT OF MAKING A NEXT GEN FIGHTER WHEN YOU AREN'T GOING TO LET THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TO BE TRAINED TO PILOT IT ACTUALLY PILOT IT, AND INSTEAD FORCE THE OLD GUARD TO LEARN HOW IT HANDLES BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE PILOT TIME

ARE YOU SOME KIND OF JAPANESE ROYAL GUARDSMAN

HOW THE FUCK HAVE YOU SURVIVED THIS LONG WITH BETA RIGHT ON YOUR DOORSTEP YOU STUPID JAP
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>>14904175
Your mistake was thinking the XFJ project was to make a Takemikazuchi II instead of a Shiranui II.

The Shiranui was garbage and needed to be phased out for a better design, it was really nothing special compared to the older yet far more lasting F15E. XFJ was to design a new mainline fighter, a replacement Shiranui, a SHIRANUI II. SOMETHING YOU COULD DROP ANY PILOT INTO FRESH OUT OF FLIGHT SCHOOL AND HAVE THEM NOT EAT SHIT INSTANTLY.
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>>14904175
>They have those already though, the TSF's they have are perfectly suitable for rookies.
The only fighters that meet that description are the Gekishits which are obsolete and being phased out; plus the Kagerou, procurement of which has ceased favor of the Shiranui. Which itself comes from the same "fiddly as hell" family as the Fubuki and the Shiranui Second. Gekkou fits the bill of being both easy for newbies to fly as well as being an absolute beast that veteran aces can draw more performance out of.
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>>14903198
It's pretty clear that Yui started that fight so he would have a moment of epiphany with his Shiranui. She let him win on purpose as a means to that end.
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>>14904186
>SOMETHING YOU COULD DROP ANY PILOT INTO FRESH OUT OF FLIGHT SCHOOL AND HAVE THEM NOT EAT SHIT INSTANTLY.
Takeru's crew didn't have a problem and they only had like a couple months of training. Maybe Japanese flight schools are just better.
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>>14904043
>>14904057
and here for example she show concern for Lise by asking her if her breast still hurts after axmann cut it. You have too look deeply to see because protag things she is the Devil himself and if you rely on his views you wont get the true answer

https://sendvid.com/tqfyk924
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>>14904214
No, but they do train their pilots on Japanese equipment, obviously. And having no prior experience means that it would be all they know, whereas Yuuya is a veteran (test) pilot and had to unlearn piloting habits he'd already developed.
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>>14904224
I think the fact that she looks so uncomfortable and awkward trying to comfort Lise just makes her that much more enduring.

It's nice to see that the LNfags were right about this facet of her character.
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>>14904288
>enduring
endearing? It's crazy how cute these grown women can be. It's sad though because it feels like they missed the years where they were supposed to be smiling and having fun.
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>>14904305
They were the cutest as children too though.
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>>14904316
I still can't believe Iris was a school bully. There's no way someone that cute could be so mean!
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>>14904395
She wasn't, it was the clique around her who bullied. Iris was only guilty of being popular and clueless.
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>>14904305
Beatrix turned 23 a couple of weeks before the start of SM, so she's still hasn't even reached the peak of adulthood (brain doesn't stop fully maturing until after 25). In many respects, both her and Irisdina should be on the cusp of the rest of their lives, if things weren't so fucked up.
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>>14904003
do you have Cui too?
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>>14904613
>SSR
fuck no
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>>14904178
>he isn't an invincible war god of steel even in a Gekishit
I bet you pilot in full auto ypu fucking faggot
manual control master race will kick your ass
go and become BETA food
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>>14904617
Do it for her
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>>14904739
God, when are they going to give us SM characters? I'll even take Katia at this point, just give us something.
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>>14904751
They seem to be prioritizing TE characters at the moment, I guess because they've been around for so long and their H-scenes are so long overdue.

SM will probably come after TDA. There are already TDA characters in the game files.
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>>14904761
TE and SM aren't even that old

I think SM and TDA are only like 2-3 years younger
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>>14904767
The original TE novels are 10 years old.
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I finish this event with 3 Yui and 4 Rinrin when I had gotten 24 Stella in the previous one (since her skill is level 19). I have been worried for a few days that I wouldn't get the cards.
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>>14903449
I am only willing to play this game if I can get this shit

I would translate the story behind it
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This event is comfy to farm
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>>14905288
my favorite event, at least i can upgrade my ssr and hope to be lucky with the ticket.
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As some one with a fetish for tank tops, particularly ones with thin straps and that are pulled up over the breasts all I can say is YEEEEEEEESSSSSS.
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>>14905399
She looks like she's being a good wife for Yuuya.
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>>14904003
And she's the worst pilot of Muv-luv.
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>>14903811
Actually they use Gekkous.
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>>14904191
No she got beat fair and square. Her look of surprise and shame says it all.
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>>14905451

Munakata and Misae are the ones using Gekkous. Akane is with the unit running Shiranui Seconds.
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>>14905477
Pretty sure everyone has Gekkous since the Shiranui II only saw limited production for testing and was dropped.
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>>14905399
Post as much Cui as you can. Every single CG.

>inb4 it's another dream
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>>14905484

You got it opposite. Shiranui Second was the one that was picked for mass-production in the end. Both units were present during Operation Sledgehammer for evaluation. The events of these units are detailed in TSFiA #26 and #27, Heritage of Valkyries and Valkyries Hereafter.

In TSFiA #38, Continental Fighters, the whole of the Fuji unit is outfitted with Shiranui Seconds during a joint mission with Soviet forces. The events of #38 are set a few months after #26 and #27. Extra information confirms that Yuuhi gave her approval for the production of the Shiranui Second.

What actually happened to the Gekkous, however, was that since Japan brought them outright for the evaluation phase, the units are theirs to keep, stealth technologies and all.
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The new SF event is grindey as fuck.
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>>14905521
>What actually happened to the Gekkous, however, was that since Japan brought them outright for the evaluation phase, the units are theirs to keep, stealth technologies and all.
Are they going to end up like IRL Iran's F-14s, just barely hanging on for lack of parts for maintenance because the US Congress says you're not allowed to buy spare parts?
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So, is Beatrix the Char of SM, only with things going wrong for her?
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>>14905519

Unfortunately I'm limited to what I can find on Twitter.
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>>14905519

I'd rather they all be dreams, personally. Yuuya loves Cryska, and if they're saying he's the kind of guy who'll fuck a girl he doesn't even love then he's a total scumbag.
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>>14905521
No I'm pretty sure the other anon got it right.
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>>14905549

The situation encompassing the F-14 fighter and the F-15SEJ TSF are so far apart they are barely comparable at all.

One is the main fighter aircraft of a nation that couldn't buy anything else because their political alignment changed overnight and they never bothered to remedy that; close to 30 years down the road, they have an F-5 knockoff and a Garmin-sponsored mockup to show for their aerospace efforts.

The other side are 12 evaluation units specifically made for export in mind with US approval and Boening given free rein to buy/sell/offer maintenance deals as the company execs see fit, is not the main or even semi-active TSF series of any active national forces, and is in Japanese hands, who have, apart from a proper TSF tech base, also have a history of buying foreign units to adapt to their local production efforts: F-4 to Zuikaku, then later on the F-15 to the Shiranui.

It's impossible to tack on anymore "implying implied implicated implications" to the current situation of Gekkous left in Japanese hands. But since the timeline has frozen at 2004 we'll probably never see anything to come of it for quite a while.

Of course, TE does something right for once, which is revealing that the USA already has a counter for the stealth technology used for the F-22A (and the F-15SEJ) which explains their apparent lack of concern about any kind of stealth technology in the hands of others.
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>>14905570
No, that would be Jurgen who's the Char. Beatrix is probably more like Cima in misfortune.
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>>14905578
Who are you to say he can't love more than one woman?
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>>14905623

Simply common decency.

Besides, Yuuya loves the Shiranui the most so going after fleshbags is still out of character.
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Better roll than last week.

>>14905288
>>14905333
Once again, cards from normal gacha don't give any bonus. But I guess it doesn't matter when the event drops medals rather than SR cards. At least, friend tsf seems to give a boost too.
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>>14905648
i dropped HR Akane on normal gatcha and she give 10% bonus.
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>>14905622
Beatrix would be Origins Kycilia.
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>>14905648
HR Akane gives a bonus
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And here is SR Akaru 100% in bad quality: https://imgur.com/a/rXBdy
She's in her former world, decides to masturbate before going to sleep and imagines the guy is the protagonist because his face is not too bad.
Well, at least this time, they say it right off the bat it's not real, you don't have to wait to reach 500% for that.
>>14905680
>>14905695
It's because I only got her once from event gacha one or two weeks ago. I didn't think she was in normal gacha too.

What do you think is best type of tsf for this event? Rifle because it goes through walls?
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>>14905715
Honestly, the timer is pretty forgiving, just S sword for speed. Use aoe specials for getting around walls.
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So I'm not going to use Yui in my line up and I have more than 5. What should I do with the extras? Promote them for more gems?
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>>14905723
Yeah, you're right. I managed to not time out 12sta this time with two swords on field.
It's nice there is no platoon battle, that allows you to farm mats with your other cards.
Also, I got a laser class once. But even without them, you still need to babysit a bit your tsf: once in a while, it will just hangs doing nothing.

>>14905771
If you don't care about raising her skill then I guess so.

Speaking of skill, that special skill *2 for this week seems shit. I was keeping a few dupes sr cards to gain one stamina refill per day with the daily missions but decided to use them all today but I still gained only one skill level per card every time.
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>>14905771
i used them for prome SSR Yui skill
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>>14905828
Yeah but it's pointless if I'm not going to use her right? Her skill is just a weaker SSR Cryska right?
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>you can select how many things you want to buy
Fucking finally
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>>14905838
different setup. SSR pregacha yui is a multi hit attack while cryska's is a line assault one hit.
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>trying to play with smartphone
Apparently Zenfone 5 doesn't support this low tier game, these japs are a disaster
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>>14906277
Nvm its the game shitting itself, third time worked
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>>14905521

Is there any info on what happened to Yui after TE? Did she return to Alaska or stay in Japan?
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>>14906488
After the anime or the VN? The last time they show her in the VN is during operation Ouka where she's been clearing some BETA but suddenly stops and looks at the sky, thinking about Yuuya as if she felt his kamikaze attack on the Fort Laser.
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I hate these events. how did a series about fighting swarms of aliens turn into a mouse in a maze looking for cheese game?
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>>14906504

After the VN. No data at all?
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So Beatrix's office looks cozy and well used for someone who is supposed to be main villain.

I even heard from some of the LNfags that her office was too cozy because the heater had broken and she didn't have the funds to fix it, which was why she always had to fight nodding off while doing paperwork.
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>>14907121
I see a boob...
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>>14907077

Why does this look PS2 as fuck?
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>>14907178
Because Beatrix has good taste
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>>14907178
>PS2

What? I feel dumb for asking this, but you aren't referring to the gaming console, are you?
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>>14907178
Sharp-as-fuck edges on everything and nonexistent shading.
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>>14907191
She didn't even have the funding to fix her heater. All the furniture is probably beat up or hand me downs too.

Compare this to Schmidts office (also notice how it doesn't have any furniture for guests like Beatrix's)
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>>14907077
It doesn't look cozy, it looks sterile.

Beatrix isn't a good person either, so stop trying to humanize her.
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>>14907210
The only thing sterile here is your brain from drinking Watanabe's koolaid.
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>>14907077
This right here is the office of a terrifying and merciless main antagonist. Fear her and her worn but well taken care of furniture, cramped spaces, cheap decor, and aura of depression. Truly, only evil could inhabit these gray walls.
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>>14906681

There is TSFiA #86, where a woman who is strongly implied to be Yui is watching an airshow involving the Shiranui Phase 3 and the YF-23 sometime post-2002. The problem is that the entire short story is full of "strongly implied", including Yuuya being the demonstration pilot for the Phase 3, but none of them are actually definitively named in text.
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>>14905715
I added pics for 300%. Didn't even bother removing the text box. 200% didn't have anything new.
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>>14907210
>Best girl, the supposed main villain, throws away her victory, her career and life for her sister in law and proves beyond the doubt of all naysayers that in the end, she was not only redeemable, but that she truly only cared about greater good. No matter what.
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>>14906626
Blame Kouzuki Yuuko. Remember everything 207C does is virtual.
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>>14907261
That seems pretty out of character.
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>>14907294
The entire anime was out of character.
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>>14907294
I thought she was more interesting back when I thought she was a fucked up lesbian sadist who wanted to sell out everyone in the DDR for a comfy place back in the West.

We don't get enough complete monster female villains, especially ones as hot as her. Good times.
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>>14907310
>a fucked up lesbian sadist who wanted to sell out everyone in the DDR for a comfy place back in the West
That actually sounds pretty contrived, maybe even better described as dull.
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>>14907323
I dunno. I loved that bond villain crap better then the sentimental shit I've been hearing about now. It kind of matched what I though SM was supposed to be (a Cold War political thriller with spies/stasi and shit with an alien invasion and mechs thrown in). And like I said, it was weird seeing one of the most hottest anime characters ever be that outrageously disgusting. I loved it!
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>>14907328
>It kind of matched what I though SM was supposed to be (a Cold War political thriller with spies/stasi and shit with an alien invasion and mechs thrown in)
Where did you hear that? I heard it was essentially a soap opera 3-4 years ago and haven't really been proven wrong.
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>>14907121
it's missing the top left one.
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>>14907338
Heard it from /a/ and /m/. They also said she was basically holding Axmann's hand (like he was her creepy older henchman riding her coattails to victory, despite technically being a higher rank then her), and that she was the one who killed Theo's family, fucked over Iris's life and brother because Iris snubbed her at the academy by being better then her, and that she had Lise broken via Axmann.

It didn't seem realistic, but it did seem fun.
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>>14907390
>They also said she was basically holding Axmann's hand (like he was her creepy older henchman riding her coattails to victory, despite technically being a higher rank then her), and that she was the one who killed Theo's family, fucked over Iris's life and brother because Iris snubbed her at the academy by being better then her, and that she had Lise broken via Axmann.
That definitely sounds contrived. When'd you hear this? Before or during the anime's original airing?
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>>14907436
Back in 2014, I think.
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What's the best book on the Stasi to read?

I'm working my way through "Stasi: The Untold Story of the East German Secret Police" by John O. Koehler

But I'm not sure it's the best.
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Why are the Lisefags and Beatrixfags going to war over on /a/?
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>>14907912
Shitflinging over Theo betraying the 101st, and whether or not that makes him a good person or not, and if it was even necessary to do that in order to save Lise.
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>>14907912
Lisefags acting like Katiafags for the most part. Theo is correct and everything he does is justifiable because he chose my waifu.

>>14908021
Yeah, deal is is that he continues to lean on the 101st even after he betrays them (no one knows about Beatrix), and Farka ends up sacrificing herself for Theo and Lise. Theo even uses the gun Beatrix gave him to shoot Axmann and his boytoy crew.

So yeah, betrayals suck, but this digs a little deeper then that.
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>>14907912
We're cleaning up the trash from our fandom. Think, how many times do you see a Beatrixfag making up some ridiculous apology, reinterpreting things in the best light possible, deceiving themselves, or torturing reality to fit there narrative?

They have to jump through hoops to justify how Beatrix isn't an absolutely despicable person. See >>14904224 for an example. Beatrix literally says one line about if Lise is fine, and that's supposed to prove how compassionate she is? That's literally nothing. Stop trying to make it some huge insight into Beatrix. She manipulates or wipes her ass of Lise the other 99% of the time, and proceeds to do the same to Theo in Lise's route.

It's ridiculous to think she's in a different category from Axmann and Schmidt just because she makes your penis tingle.
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Did anybody get the SSR Chinese Miku card?
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>>14908047
>It's ridiculous to think she's in a different category from Axmann and Schmidt just because she makes your penis tingle.
She's in a different category by virtue of actually having a backstory. You be the judge of the rest and if that backstory actually justifies anything.
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>>14908053
We executed murderers who were abused as children growing up all the time. How is Beatrix anymore sympathetic?
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>>14908053
Lise and Sylwia make a mockery of Beatrix's tragic backstory. Even Iris is tragic, but she learns from her mistake and tries to become a better person unlike Beatrix, who uses it as an excuse to become worse and worse.
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>>14908058
>How is Beatrix anymore sympathetic?
The matter of choice and free will, which as far as the current released chapters, indicate that had she actually believed she had a choice, she would have preferred not to do one of the things she would later do. But then again, as the series has yet to finished and that last chapter is nowhere in sight, we might get just a garden variety sociopath.
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>>14908053

Well, the reason why she's in the same group as Axmann and Schmidt is not because she's as evil, but because she instigates evil. Lise and the rest are just following order or are forced into it. Beatrix actively makes plans and orders others to spread terror or murder. So she's a lot more culpable then Lise, and she wasn't even brainwashed like Lise. She gravitated towards the stasi life, and it seems like it really did suit her, whereas Lise is obviously breaking under its pressures.
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Seems like the SSR tsundere bitch from SF has a new skill where she marks the Beta with a bunch of gold bars and it makes the gold dropped higher depending on skill level I guess.
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Haven't been able to log into the game on Android since like 9 hours ago. It's up to date and I also tried cleaning the cache, but I keep getting a 1003 error.

Anyone with the same issue?
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I just got an SR TSF from and HR Ticket!
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>>14907235

I would love some source for that.
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>>14907912

They are reenacting the story of SM
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So complete MuvLuv newfag who's only interested in alt-history here, so is the USSR still or thing or they revert to glorious Imperial Russia?
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>>14908264
Still a thing if not stronger for it.
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>>14908264
They still exist, and the USA kindly leased half of Alaska to them so that they wouldn't all die (they have to live on top of buried H-bombs though).

>alt-history

http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/Alternative_Timeline

Enjoy
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>>14908303
>>14908363
Oh wow, so the Cold War is still going on.

Kinda nice but not nice.

I want muh not-Putin Russia.
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>>14908363
But damn, all those Soviet-Japan joint operations are glorious.

Kinda make me wish if Russia and Japan team up for once.

They would rule the entire Upper Pacific.
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>>14906323
>>14906277
>play once fine
>today I can't play ti at all in smartphone
JUST

It keeps stopping at the 91% loading as if the conneciton with the japs die while on pc it goes normally.
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>>14908047
>We
"We've" been trying to clean out the naysayers for a year now. You are like cockroaches.
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>>14908264

They do seem to have of imperial mentality though, like sending non-Slavic troops to Kamchatka to hold the line there. Also, they have separatist problems in Alaska.

Seriously though, Cookie should do his damn homework before writing stuff sbout other nations. National profiling was kind of a soft taboo in the USSR and no-one really gave a damn about where you come from.

t. a former resident
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>>14908375
S00N
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>>14908425
Are you serious?

Stalin sent all the jews to an Oblast.
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>>14908382
need to install new version.
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>>14908432
And after his death, nobody wanted to go back to Stalinism.

>>14908425
>Italians and West Germans cracking jokes about the Roman Empire fighting the Germanic barbarians and then later get invaded by Nazis

>Deep South murrikans passive aggressively excluding the dirty haafu jap

>Australians taking in boat people

I guess "write what you know" is just easier to do, God knows American writers are guilty of it more often than not

But on the other hand it's not like socialists haven't been guilty of social chauvinism in the past. It's easy to preach international unity of the workers when there aren't man eating monsters breathing down your neck and you as the biggest SSR in the USSR have the power to make sure it's not your people being eaten.
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>>14908432

As well as Krimean Tatars and Ukes. He continued imperial settlement policies and it made sense to deport religious and political dissidents to a place where they couldn't be a bother to the industrialised European part of the union.

Read up on Green Ukraine if you're interested
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>>14908447

I'm not saying it doesn't make sense from a national standpoint. It wouldn't, however, if one was a ardent believer in socialism. But then again,
>USSR
>Socialist

I'm seriously interested in how Yugos dealt with the BETA invasion. Tito had a much stronger emphasis on cultural unity than the Soviets.
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>>14908447
But everybody went back to Stalinism, they just liberalized the market.

Heck, the Hungrarian suppression happened under Kruschev.

And heck, the ukrainians are regarded as second-tier russians in general.

To say the USSR doesn't do national-profiling is retarded.
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>>14908474

Is this bait?
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>>14908459
Tito, much like Stalin, symbolized Greater Serbia with the creation of Yugoslavia, this is why the serbs fucking love Yugoslavia and the russians love the USSR.

Heck, this is why their revolutions are kept and maintained, despite the shitty economy.
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>>14908483
Explain how is it bait?
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>>14908488
>liberalise
>market
>going back to Stalinism

Not in the mood for spoonfeeding anyone now, sorry.
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>>14908490
Stalinism is more than an economy mode.

It's also a political policy, which is about keeping the unity in the Soviet Union, by any means necessary.
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Dunno if this got posted already, but it looks like they have implemented the old way of replenishing stamina again.
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>>14908492

I'm seriously lost now.
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>>14908501
Please explain how are you lost?

Or are you saying Stalin purging political dissidents and suppressing various national identities are an economic mode?
>>
Does anybody happen to have a download link for the high quality Integral Works scans? KNG's Mediafire archives seem to have been lost to time.
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>>14908508
No, his archives are still up.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/vbluecca6p2ilal/Stash+2013.txt
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>>14908474
>the Hungrarian suppression happened under Kruschev
Because Hungary was leaving the Warsaw Pact and threatening the national security of the Soviet Union, not because the Russians thought Hungarians were racially inferior.
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>>14908514
The folder link is there, but the IW folder itself (among others) is empty i.e. the files are purged.
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>>14908519
Ask him on twitter about it, I guess.
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>>14908518
And that's Stalinism.

Stalin deported the jews because their national identities might endanger the unity of the Soviet Union.

The various leaders of the SU afterwards kept in this policy, any of kind of national revolution are to be suppressed, for the good of the SU.

This creates national-profiling.
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>>14908505

I'm lost cause your interpretation has fundamental flaws in it. Firstly, Stalin was publically denounced as a revisionist by Kruschev in 1955, effectively putting a stop to stalinist policies. Secondly, you can't liberalise a market in a planned economy - the USSR didn't have an internal market in the modern sense of the word as the economy relied on planning and statistics. Lastly, on ethnic policies, I'm speaking from a layman's perspective - I haven't encountered any type of national profiling before the dissolution of the union and I'm not Russian.
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>>14908437
I have already made a clean install yesterday and today, it just keep happening
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So, new event is boosted by the same TSF shown in it's image? If so I guess I am a bit luck for having at least that HR TSF.
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>>14908521
Don't have a twitter account since I had to close my last throwaway thanks to it getting hijacked after I hadn't used it for a couple of years, and don't really want to make another one after that experience.

Are there any other /m/en who have it and are able to upload it to mega or something?
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>>14908528
>Firstly, Stalin was publically denounced as a revisionist by Kruschev in 1955, effectively putting a stop to stalinist policies
Krsuchev himself went on and used Stalinist policies while denouncing them at the same time, he did not abolish the Oblast.
>Secondly, you can't liberalise a market in a planned economy - the USSR didn't have an internal market in the modern sense of the word as the economy relied on planning and statistics.
Kruschev liberalized the market by having private sector back, though slowly paying the way for later-USSR, which functions like a mixed economy.
>Lastly, on ethnic policies, I'm speaking from a layman's perspective - I haven't encountered any type of national profiling before the dissolution of the union
You not ecountering it does not mean it doesn't exist, the USSR is vast. Just ask the poles or ukrainians how the Soviet treat them.
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>>14908528
>Firstly, Stalin was publically denounced as a revisionist by Kruschev in 1955
Also, he did "publicly denounced" Stalin, after all, it was a secret speech.
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>>14908534
Well his email is apparently

kiminozoguy (a) gmail.com

So you could shoot an email. He's posted stuff on twitter like 3 minutes ago so he's definitely on a computer. Dunno how often he checks that email, or even if it's still active.
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>>14908363
>Majestic 12
>Alien dissection
>Moon Base, Mars lander, and deep space probes by 1960
>Soviet mind readers
>Strategic Defense Initiative space nukes
>Nukes being flung around left and right
>gravity bending experiments with the fifth dimension using alien technology
>Japanese mind reading quantum androids
Did the writers research the Cold War by reading old pulp fiction?
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>>14908548
The writers bought into all sorts of pseudoscience garbage. It bothers me but I've learned to tune it out.
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>>14908544
Does Gmail block mail from throwaway mail services as spam? Gmail and Hotmail seem to have gone out of their way to making new throwaway email accounts as annoying as possible.
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>>14908552
>bought into
Or just referenced?
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>>14908557
I couldn't tell you for certain, but I'm sure it'd be good to assume so.
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>>14908560
Oh well, thanks. I'm not in a rush so I'm going to just be an entitled fuck and keep begging in threads until some anon uploads it or tweets at KNG for me. Thanks friend.
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>>14908563
I'll do it for you, but only if you write exactly what you want for me to copy and paste.
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>>14908508

Similar question, does anyone know if Total Eclipse Rising was ever scanned?
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>>14908565
Hey, thanks.

Option 1
>Hi there, would it be possible for you to fix the now-dead links to the Integral Works archive stash you made a while back? Thanks!

Option 2:
>Hello KNG, your old Integral Works archive stash is as dead as the A01. Pls fix. Tq
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>>14908582
Done
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>>14908587
Thanks anon, you're a champ.

Almost reminds me of the old /m/uvluv threads.
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>>14908548
It all seems unreal until you like of cult like 8 goddesses controlling South Korea and recently the Hillary's spirit cooking shit.

Reality is stranger than fiction.
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>>14908565
>cult like 8 goddesses controlling South Korea
I've yet to be an actual news source on the 8 goddesses thing that isn't some Reddit or chan post. All the actual news sources (Korean, Japanese, and Anglosphere) only state that the woman is the daughter of a cult leader who indoctrinated the President.

>and recently the Hillary's spirit cooking shit
It was a presentation at dinner by an avant garde performance art. It wasn't literal devil worship.

the world is a lot more boring than people wish it is.
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>>14908705
>All the actual news sources (Korean, Japanese, and Anglosphere) only state that the woman is the daughter of a cult leader who indoctrinated the President.
The single fact that a cult managed to indoctrinate the President in the current year deserves much discussion.

>It was a presentation at dinner by an avant garde performance art. It wasn't literal devil worship.
What's the difference, really? Belief?
>the world is a lot more boring than people wish it is.
If so, not so much shit would have been dug this selection.
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>>14908593
Is this what you are looking for?

https://exhentai.org/g/612236/5a87fe9d1a/
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>>14908153
Same here, it's been acting up since the last update. Just keep trying.
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>>14909068
For android you need version 1.1.4
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>>14909184
Not him but 1.1.4 still bugs a lot to start up here.
>Title Screen, wait 5s to the button light up
, press it
>% keeps going, stop at about 90%
>error after 20s stuck
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>>14909184
I do have that one, it gives me 1003 like crazy.
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>>14909190
>>14909184
>>14909068
I've never been able to install it on my phone. It fails every time. What am I doing wrong?
>>
>>14909413
Download dmm appli on their site then use it to download the game.
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>>14909769
Did just that but when the .api for the game tries to install it just fails. Redownloaded and it still fails to install.
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>>14908957
Yeah, that's it. Thanks anon, didn't know he'd stuck it on panda as well.

>no GP
>manually saving 356 images

aaaaaaah
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>>14910056
Better get on it!
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>>14910059
I guess so.
I hope he does fix the stashes though, more redundancy is good. Or maybe he's morally obligated to leave it in its grave now that ML is coming west.
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>>14910068
He probably would if there was no other way to obtain it. It just so happens it was uploaded somewhere else as well.
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is it a bug when the event map only has one box instead of 4?
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>>14910589
no, that's a feature
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