Mobile Suit Gundam SEED & Destiny

>>14890626
the best gundam series

>>14890674
The only good fight in the entire series.

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>>14890626
Kira and Lacus
OTP
T
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>>14890626
Why would they do this?

>>14890680
More like the worst fucking fight in the series wtf
Kira was reluctant to fight the entire time like a little bitch and he didn't even die when his entire gundam exploded like wtf

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>>14890827
I wish they committed to either redrawing the whole thing or doing a better job with the upscale so the quality isn't so inconsistent from scene to scene.

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>>14890849
>quality

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>>14890880

>>14890884
Where's the pictures on the left from?

Honestly I could post scenes from Majestic Prince here (not Fafnir tho) and y'all wouldn't be able to tell it wasn't supposed to be there if I mixed them in with Seed and Seed Destiny scenes

Hisashi is the worst

>>14890857
>>14890865

I actually like what the original does for Kira's character more.

>>14890941
>Where's the pictures on the left from?
original version ransmitted by Japanese broadcaster

>>14890953
That's because it's better in basically every way.

>>14890993

I appreciate the revision as well though. Kira knew he was killing people all along, but he may have known that Athrun was friends with everyone on the Le Creuset team. I can imagine Kira being more resistant about killing them but, upon realizing they're trying to kill him too, ultimately defended himself to kill Nicol.

>>14890626
I like how Assrun is in the love interest slot. Fucking faggots.

>>14890945
>Majestic Prince
But this is the show where his style has changed the most
He doesn't do the super spiky eyelashes anymore, and his eyes have more varied shapes

>>14890633
>the best gundam series
Perfect

>>14895282
Lunamaria a cute

>>14890884
>>14890880
>>14890827
So I should watch the remaster, right?

I liked seed but didn't watch destiny, is it worth watching?

>>14896291
yeah

>>14896291
No, you should watch the original versions.

>>14896305
Of course!

>>14896305
no, you only need to watch the Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny Special Edition

>>14896305
Only if you wanna watch something that starts off seeming like it has more intelligence and self-awareness than Seed, only to somehow become much dumber.

>>14896820
>you will never titfuck Lacus in that exact dress

good series

>>14896305
Watch Destiny so you get the context of events in Stargazer.
Watch Stargazer.

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>>14895282
Best thing about Destiny right here.

>>14896827
Why would you want to wear that dress while you're titfucking Lacus?

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>>14896272
Cute!

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>>14897701
>>14895282
Hot damn, she really was.

>>14898582
shemalle

>>14896818
That really was by far the worst thing about Destiny for me and a lot of people. The first few episodes are genuinely pretty good. For a while there, it looked like we were really gonna get a follow-up to SEED that addressed its shortcomings and played to its strengths. The betrayal that was felt as things quickly fell apart was almost tangible.

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>>14898583
oh yes

>>14898621

I actually think it lingered in the "faltering, but still pretty ok" phase for a long enough time that it made things worse when it cratered. I was honestly still on board until Strike Freedom.

I would defend the first cour forever.

>>14898621
I liked the colony drop arc

>>14896291
It's essentially the same story but a lot of the nuances in the original >>14890857 were retconned in the remaster to better tie it to Destiny's "sensibilities".

And since I prefer Destiny never existed, I'm sticking with the original which works (and was originally intended) as a standalone story.

>>14896291
As balls as the video quality of the original dvd versions is now, I would absolutely recommend them over the remasters

Any improvements to the video quality are more than cancelled out by the story revisions

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>>14896291
If you want to understand WHY the show's so controversial among the fanbase, watch the original. A lot of the impact is lost in the remaster's attempts to "update" show to look better than it actually was (and in some cases make it WORSE).

>>14898761
Which is which? Is this the future or the past?

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>>14890929

>>14898770
>I really think they would make a 16:9 show in the past and remaster it into 4:3

Also, have you never seen hiraiface?

>>14898770
Kek. Left (original), right (remaster).

>>14898770

Left is the original, right the remaster.

The thing with Seed was it came out at a time where reanimating scenes or fixing things for the dvd version didn't happen so much, so there's things like episodes where the characters are off model in the final version.

The remaster as well as converting to high definition attempted to make things more on model, but does it with Destiny's character designs which had changed from the originals. The newer looking designs clash and don't make it look better.

>>14898802
>it came out at a time where reanimating scenes or fixing things for the dvd version didn't happen so much
Dude, SEED (and particularly Destiny) set records on the number of things they changed/fixed from the broadcast to DVD version.

>>14898807
Got some examples?

>>14898807
Uh, no the first Seed didn't?

>>14898814
That scene where Shinn killed Todoka (the ship captain) was plagued with QUALITY in the broadcast version, fixed for the DVD.

>>14898779
Haha I hadn't watched SEED in over a decade. Figured shit cropping or something.

>hiraiface
I had to look that one up, that's hilarious. I thought it was a lazy production, vs lazy design.

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>>14898851
Don't worry, every time that comparison image comes up, someone always asks. Sometimes I think it's trolling, but there are people who genuinely can't tell... which doesn't speak well for the quality of the remaster.

Also, the remaster has some awful-looking scenes, just as bad as that awful Disney remaster of Sword in the Stone that had super fucked up denoise and sharpening effects amped up to 11.

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/150-blu-ray-software/1484388-disney-s-sword-stone-remaster-total-disaster.html

See the screenshot? It's no an in-between shot during fast motion, it's just two characters, one of which is sitting still and the other is moving from left to right. See how shitty the lines are?

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>>14898873
Ah here we go, I found one of the most godawful looking scenes in the remaster.

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>>14898774
you did some pretty evil Shop jobs on this pic.

>>14898899
holy shit, this looks fucking terrible. How did they manage to fuck this up so badly? Even the water in the original looks a hundred times better.

>>14898774
Anon can't even tell when something had been photoshopped.

>>14890626
it's a good animu

I want to give it a try but fuck the artstyle is just so offputting and all the characters sound like fagbags.

>>14890626

Still the worst Gundam series e er made. Who thought a guy that made his name doing shows for kids and a writer who never understood politics or what war means get hired to co-direct a fucking Gundam show?

Blue Cosmos was right: Coordinators are threat to human civilization. Race War Now!

SEED is perfect when you want to watch classic MSG but can't cope with the 70's art/ animation style

>>14890857
>>14890865
I haven't watched SEED but I don't understand this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with counterattacking, especially if your life is on the line. Why is everyone acting so shocked? It's a war. They signed up for this. Even if you believe in turn the other cheek that doesn't really apply if you die if you don't act.

>>14907918
It's not counterattacking anymore. In the original version of Seed, Kira *does* defend himself by counterattacking with the giant sword.

In the remastered edition, they rewrote it so that Kira actually tries to move the blade -away- from the guy to prevent him from dying but the guy still runs into it. It's a clumsy edit that doesn't make sense. Green hair is now a retard that literally ran into a giant sword even though Kira was trying to save him from killing himself.

Look at the scene closer - in the new version, Kira moves the sword away from him (the energy blade is actually pointing away) but then the sword flips 180 degrees and the energy blade is now facing toward the guy again when he kills himself.

>>14907988
I'm more talking about how he's fucking shocked that he killed someone, despite it being perfectly valid self defense. Again, I haven't watched SEED so I don't know why he and the guy in red looks so distraught.

>>14908013
Oh. In that case, it's just drama.

>>14895282
>>14897701
>>14898582
>>14898583
>>14898631
>>14908013
I want to rim her endlessly
>inb4 get in the line

>>14908133
Luna was the true SEED DESTINY.

One part that made me laugh was that some poor sod had to pilot Meer's ZAKU in the final battle.

>>14908133
I'll impregnate her after you eat her out.

>>14908013
too much ass

>>14908423
Not enough.

>>14908013
big ass

>>14908107

both dark blue hair and brown hair were friends before the war and got caught on opposite sides. Green hair is the friend of the dark blue hair guy and they had a whole bonding episode before this. Dark blue hair also had a sorta-bonding moment with brown hair just before this battle.

Basically "my old friend killed my new friend," something they were building up for a while in the show cause almost every other battle ended with fairly minor damage to both sides besides some dead grunts.

Its drama for dramas sake since brown haired dude has killed dozens of people already, but its this one special guy he kills that sorta disturbs him, and he didn't even know the guy.

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>>14910899
Cagalli is my waifu!

>>14911062
those are some lanky looking legs

>>14911060
Good taste.

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>>14911459
>Good taste.

>>14890626
The way the story is presented was really mind-boggling. For the moment, you think things are this way, the next moment you are confused whether is it really the way it looks. I liked also how the dialogues and philosophical issues really make you think and reflect, without being too morbid/psychotic. It was so exciting that I was literally watching more and more episodes. I think this may be the fastest I've ever watched an anime.

>>14914089
Retards are not for sex.

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I liked the Zoids.

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>>14914662
>>14914519

>>14897762
It's a power thing, you wouldn't understand.

>>14914652
Pretty cool.

>>14910899
>>14911060
>>14911459

Excellent taste. At least until she gets brain damage in Destiny.

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Mear best girl

>>14914737

I'm on a rewatch of the CE and there's such a dramatic shift in the way that Cagalli is handled between SEED and Destiny that I'm now wondering if it is, in fact, due to brain damage sustained from her head wound in the first episode of Destiny.

>>14914868

Oops, I meant second episode.

Also, does anyone else wish that Athrun had just BAMF'd it up in a grunt suit for most of the show? Like showing up Shinn. Frequently. In a ZAKU.

>>14910899
One thing I don't think I can ever approve of is sexualizing Cagalli.

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>>14914906

>>14914913
end it

>>14914913
Fat and puffy~

>>14914987
best vagina

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>>14914906
>One thing I don't think I can ever approve of is sexualizing Cagalli.

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>>14914819
>Mear best girl
a slut like Flay

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>>14916349
why do they show her panty shot in op then?

>>14916367
Gil please.

>>14916367
hot

>>14898565
How did she get away with this in the army?

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>>14917561
She's a ZAFT red, one of the elite

>>14917561
The only way that shot makes sense is if Luna's skirt is only two inches long at the back. At that length, her underwear would be showing all the time anyway. Indeed, her butt wasn't visible in the original version - Fukuda just remastered the show with his dick.

>>14917589
make that man a general

this series is like a hentai

>>14917599
Nothing wrong with that.

>>14916947
sexy

>>14914868
Almost every returning character is ruined in Destiny.

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best guy

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>>14920062
My man.

>>14896291
Make sure it's BD remaster and not youtube remaster

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>>14917561
Because it's not the army?
ZAFT more of private guard then army, they don't even have normal rank like Lt.

Thinking about it, would the reason Aisha didn't get retconned back into the realm of the living unlike Andrew, who survived because people liked him, was because they didn't have the money to keep Vivian Hsu around?

>>14920309
That's probably it, singers do cost quite a bit.

>>14920258
is he gay?

>>14920257
Still doesn't mean that there aren't dress codes etc.

If you were to make CE great again, what would you do to make it good? Would you make the new series take place further in the future? Would you make the mech designs better?

>>14921887
Okay, here's something I've toyed around in my head before.

Lead is the son of Kira and Lacus, but that is not apparent at first. It's actually something he wants to keep hidden. He's traveling around the world in an attempt to get away from all the pressures of being their kid (again, revealed later) when ZAFT attacks the place he's in. Like, he's legit confused at what is going on and what people around him are saying because to him, ZAFT is merely trying to keep war from breaking out again.

Anyway, due to the circumstances he tries to use a civilian mobile suit to help with the evacuation effort. However, a ZAFT pilot confuses his attempt for trying to open a path for pilots to get to the nearby hangar and attacks. Kira Jr. manages to get out of his machine before it's taken down, where he finds the latest RX-78-2 clone and manages to force the attackers to retreat.

However, this forces ZAFT to target this area more heavily while Lacus goes to the media talking about how the nation is promoting war. Kira Jr. is brought onto a new ship and the series begins in proper as it examines how the guys on the other side of Kira's guns would view him. Can people be led astray by good intentions?

anyone know that PS2 game Generation of C.E.?

there's so many MS i didn't know before. dozens of dagger variations and 5 different Blue Frames. there's also Kira's clone or something, he pilots gundam with giant beam shield.

the BGM pretty great too

>>14921956
That's actually pretty interesting. If I may suggest a name for the protagonist, to allude to his heritage he could be named Hikaru Bannou. Hikaru means "to glow," while Bannou means universal or omnipotent. As for the main suit, I was thinking it could be something similar to the F91, capable of producing after images with mass. I was also thinking Kira, Lacus, and ORB could be the main villain faction this time around, with the grunt suits being Hi-Zacks or Geara Dogas

>>14922004
Not villains, antagonists. They're opposing Hikaru and his newfound friends, but they're doing what they honestly believe to be the right thing for the good of the world. That they are keeping the world from destroying itself through their actions. As time goes on, Hikaru (and by proxy, the audience) begins to see this in a different light than what Destiny painted it as, and Hikaru in the end must challenge his father in open his eyes.

Also, main rival is the son of Athrun and Cagalli who is determined to "save" Hikaru. Hikaru also has a Natural love interest.

>>14922221
For setting I'm thinking it could be in the time frame of C.E.91, Once Hikaru gains his new suit, he eventually sides with the new main faction or "good guys" which are akin to a resistance or militia of sorts, neither alliance members nor ZAFT. The mid season upgrade is hinted early on with the testing of a weapon known as the Icarus device, which produces something similar to a moonlight butterfly.

The mid season upgrade suit would combine elements of both mid season suits from prior series, as well as utilize the Icarus system. It would be developed as a sort of reset switch MS, something that was supposed to be used by Kira to wipe the world of all electronics and machinery, then enslave humanity under the guise of "protection". The suit would be called either the Strike Destiny or the Icarus Gundam. Hikaru first takes off in it not from a ship, but from a top secret bunker underground. The Icarus system creates what are known as "wings of the sun" that can cause superheated gusts of wind and release EMPs

>>14922003
Not clone, Canard is basically the prototype Kira.

>>14922221
> main rival is the son of Athrun and Cagalli who is determined to "save" Hikaru

So, in the follow up season, they beat up Shinn's kid?

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>>14922966
Meyrin was pretty cute.

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>>14898761

> A lot of the impact is lost in the remaster's attempts to "update" show to look better than it actually was (and in some cases make it WORSE).

They sure "updated" Kira to have those luscious dick sucking lips.

>>14922243
Don't care for this really. I'd see Lacus as more, I dunno, I'd see her using Terminal for other purposes. Like manipulating information so that people Lacus approves of get into office in the name of creating a more peaceful Earth. Maybe even rigging an election so that someone they view as a warmonger doesn't win despite public support. Something like a Moonlight Butterfly is too direct in my opinion.

>>14922474

I was thinking more Shinn acts as a mentor to Hikaru under an alias. He recognized where ZAFT was heading under Lacus, so he and Luna faked their deaths to join the resistance. He has a rematch against Athrun at the end of the series where he calls the SEED cast blind.

I actually like the Bannou thing. Kira's name, Yamato, refers to the dominate ethnicity of Japan. The one that suppressed and assimilated other cultures. Orb is Fukuda's idealized Japan, and the show loves to harp on how great it and it's values are.

Kira represents just thinking about the good of one's nation, while Hikaru is more about looking at the bigger, all-encompassing picture for the good of all humanity.

>>14917561

ZAFT has very loose regulations. They're a well funded volunteer militia. It's why ranking pilots get a lot of customization options for their mobile suits and uniforms.

>>14890827
Green shirt guy's eyes disappear in the remaster.

>>14923367

It's the Bright Noa eyes. All of descendants of Bright Noa and Mirai have those eyes. Every character in Gundam with those kind of eyes are their descendants.

The last descendant being Gym Ghingnham.

>>14890837

People think it's good because unless every other fight they actually bothered to animate it instead of just using stock footage.

But unless the only thing you care about is Kira losing it's not a good fight at all.

>>14908423
paddy pls go

>>14908107

For one the whole thing comes off as tragically unnecessery. Kira had defeated Athrun (the red guy) to the point that his Gundam powered down, and since they were only friends, and his mission is just to get to a certain area and not just kill every enemy he sees, was almost certainly not going to finish him off, but the other guy (who has no idea Kira and Athrun are friends and that Kira is actually not a racist evil asshole like they assume everyone in the Earth Forces is) basically suicides himself into Kira to save a guy that was in no danger of actually dying.

>>14890837
>when his entire gundam exploded like wtf
didn't happen.
The big explosion was from the Tannhauser shot hitting the water. When the blast wave approaches the Minerva you can still see the thin red from the shot fading out.

Shinn penetrated Kira's reactor but Kira activated the Neutron Jammer Canceller Canceller so it wouldn't explode. The Tannhouser explosion made everyone (including you) think that the Freedom blew.

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>>14924800
Was the reactor even in the "abdomen" of the suit though? Do we see Kira deactivating the reactor (can't remember)?
Maybe Shinn assumes that the cockpit is located at the same place as the Impulse, while in the Freedom it's quite higher (in the thorax rather than the abdomen.

>>14924895
>Kira survived this

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>>14924895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWHKT8eH8s

>>14924985
Of course he did, you don't question Jesus.

>>14924895
This is nonsense or an absurdity.

>>14926495
It's both.

>>14924985
Is there a reason he shouldn't? It's not like it went through the cockpit. In fact, Shinn's super dramatic anti-ship blade stabs keep missing the cockpit.

>>14926959
Cute!

>>14927694
Dat ass.

>>14927694
too much ass

>>14924990
Go away wackymodder.

>>14916415
Thought that was just showing Athrun is fucking stupid for not being with her,

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>>14926959
The Freedom will always be my favorite Gundam.

This was a nice thread, surprisingly

>>14924974

Based off the specs we see in Seed, yeah, and we already know Freedom and Justice (and their sucessors) have a different cockpit layout that every other suit as a result.

And the follow ep when we see Cagalli fishing Freedom's cockpit out of the water we see an Unconsious Kira's hand on the reactors cut off switch.

Though given that Shinn studied up on the Freedom and Zaft has it's specs, he should have known this going in.

>>14929805
Shinn should also know where the cockpit of a GOUF is, but that didn't stop him from failing to kill Athrun either.

Either Shinn secretly has a no-kill rule that only applies against named characters, or his competency is dialed down a notch or three when fighting Kira/Athrun.

>>14929774
I love both the Freedom and Strike Freedom.

>>14929813
I would have buy him not really wanting to kill Athrun for instance. He was really conflicted about it, plus it also meant killing the sister of his love interest, which wasn't a friend of him but a comrade nonetheless.

I could see him missing the GOUF's cockpit on purpose. Now as said, he studied the Freedom, so him striking where he did with the sword is stupid. Or he thought that since they were in the ocean and since the Archangel had blown up, just disableing the suit would be enough... alas he didn't know that it doesn't suffice against Jesus Yamato.

>lead writer has a wife who also writes for the story
>wife gets angry at the VA of this one girl who voices a main character
>haha character assassination time
>also breaks up that girl's established pairing and makes the guy end up with a side character
>one main character gets married to another
>they suddenly ended up together in the show after 50+ episodes of not really connecting

Holy fuck, I didn't realize how much of a shitstorm this show is. Here I thought Geass was a trainwreck.

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>>14924895
nonense

>>14924800
You mean deactivated, right? Because a nuclear reactor on its own is physically incapable of exploding. The nuclear fuel used in fission power generation doesn't have the reactivity to explode. The only way it could explode would be if the N-Jammer Canceller was increasing the reaction rate of the process too much, overcompensating for the N-Jammer decreasing the reaction rate.

>>14930874
Actual nuclear physics has no influence on how CE tech operates.

>>14930884
It should. N-Jammers are nonsense, and the story actually works a lot better without them. They offer nothing to the setting other than some vague "nuclear power/weapons are bad" theme, which is barely explored. There's no plot element that the N-Jammers set up that can't be done better with a little more detailed world-building. But instead they went with this magical super-technology so they could take the lazy way out.

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Jesus & Devil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U1FYJ1Kqlc
Thread theme.

>>14933172
Such a good theme.

If there was going to be a new Seed series or a new series set in CE, what would you want its theme to be? I would hope for something that sounds a little more rock and less club-music-like

>>14933214
They really just need to make that movie. Honestly it might be shit, but it will give seed an end. It probably won't happen though.

>>14933760
Why not pull a /pol/ or a /x/ and make it happen through meme magic? And instead of Chiaki as the writer we get either Gen Urobuchi or Toshiki Inoue

>>14933926
How about Okada?

>>14933970
Never heard of them

>>14933926
>mememagic

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is he cuck?

>>14930534
>one main character gets married to another
>they suddenly ended up together in the show after 50+ episodes of not really connecting

That didn't happen until like 8 years after the show.

>>14935161
6 men

>>14935922
Pantsu~

>>14935161
he's a CHAR

>>14937943
I would gladly be her lapdog if it means I can pilot the fucking Freedom.

>>14937943
I forgot, what does Lacus' SEED mode do? It felt like they gave her one to round out the four protagonists.

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>>14938691
Good boy.

>>14938967
the same as any other seed mode

heightened perception and improved reflexes

>>14938980
But she sits on the bridge of a ship. Perception might help with intercepting missiles and MSes trying to do strafing runs, but it's not like Lacus activating SEED Mode would let Eternal pull sick loop-de-loops.

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>>14938990
Exactly, which is why it was unnecessary and stupid.

It's just as unnecessary and stupid as Kira having a newtype flash in episode 39 of Destiny.

>>14938993
Being a newtype is no big deal for the perfect coordinator.

>>14938990
I'd pay to watch the Eternal do sick loops.

>>14938993
But he's the Ultimate Coordinator, of course he's gonna have everything!

>>14938993
>>14939011
I honestly wouldn't mind Kira in Destiny, if it didn't feel like the show went out of its way to make him look better than everyone else at EVERYTHING.

Even his loss to Shinn gets written off as 'lolz he wasn't REALLY trying'.

>>14939015
He wasn't though, really.
He was more focus on protecting the Archangel than fighting Mr. Angry.

>>14938691
Using Lacus' lap as a pillow sounds just a tiny bit alluring. However using the Freedom does not sound alluring at all.

>>14939341
Literally Char banging Kycilia.

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>>14939467
the show featured a red zaku and the guy with char's voice never pilots it

wtf destiny?

>>14929813
>>14929805
>>14929908
Keep in mind that Shinn is only 16 and he just joined ZAFT after the first season.
Considering that ZAFT is just a large militia, I don't think they give every teenager a full 100% military training. I guess they just teach them to handle weapons and how to pilot/ fight mobile suits.
Maybe he missed the cockpits because he's simply not used to fight ZAFT suits and stabbed the abdomen out of habit

>>14940262
On the other hand Shinn is ZAFT Red, a supposed elite.

But then so is Lunamaria so I guess ZAFT gives out red uniforms like candy on Halloween.

>>14941077
He was sharing his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and what happened?

>>14941083
A miracle

>>14939341
What is it like to find out your girlfriend has HIV?

>>14939341
>>14941166
Does anyone know precisely how many men she already slept?

>>14940372
The fact that you can make it to elite in less than 2 years without any combat experience shows how worthless red coats are

>>14941188
6

>>14940262

Shinn is one of Zaft's best pilots, and number two in his class at the academy.

Both he and the number one student (Rey) specficially made a plan to destroy that one specific suit using the data from it.

The cockpit being in a different spot is something they should have accounted for.

>>14941338
Was this academy stuff mentioned in the anime? Don't remember that...
Like I said, he attacked the lower part out of habit. But you're right. If you plan to fight one specific machine you should know where the cockpit is

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>>14941367
There's a flashback here and there in a few episodes. I don't recall if they ever stated what they scored as cadets, but Rey, Shinn, and Lunamaria were at the top of their graduating class.

but this is loser shinn team

>>14940436
wtf, the actual set thats from has never been uploaded anywhere?
http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE013602.html
http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE012654.html

Flay best girl.

>>14941996
this
crazy & slutty is best

>>14941780
Interesting.

>>14941395
>popped collar

<3 Shinn

>>14944091
child panties

I wonder if Rau was based on Liquid Snake. Just replayed MGS and it felt like SEED was taking inspiration from it.

>>14946073
Rau is Liquid Snake.
Mu is Solid Snake.
Al La Flaga is Big Boss.
Waltfield is Punished Snake.

So does Kira or Shinn come back as a cyborg ninja?

>>14945195
>Shiho Hahnenfuss
I wish I could be the Natural who took her prisoner and fell in love with her and made sure she wasn't abused and then we would marry after the war and pump out viable offspring far away from the shit in the Earth Sphere.

>>14946088
isn't she just a genderswapped yzak?

>>14946091
You saying fem-Yzak is a bad thing?

>>14946079
Is Rey Solidus then?

>>14946079
What's Prayer then?

>>14946079
Shinn, probably.

>>14946091
She's one of Yzak's squaddies, I think.

>>14946496
They're in one of those teenage arranged marriages.

>>14946507
So, like Athrun and Lacus, but without Kira getting involved?

Yzak gets abandoned on an island with some Natural girl.
Dearka hooks up with Shiho in the meantime.
Dearka and Shiho later become leaders of a terrorist group, and ruin everything.

>>14946949
Worst Gundam ever

>>14947339
that weird claw thing form was kind of neat

>>14947339
>Worst Gundam ever
That's not the Mirage Frame Edgelord kai desu.

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>>14947419
heard you talkin shit m8?

>>14947515
Blitz was pretty cool.

>>14946949
>Re/100 Regenerate Gundam never

>>14947801
I swear to God this looks like Kira shagging a female Athrun.

>>14947875
Then you either must be disappointed or extremely excited.

>>14947875
can't unsee

>>14946091
No, this is the first time.

>>14948902
Too much muscles.

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best guy

>>14905297
>Who thought a guy that made his name doing shows for kids and a writer who never understood politics or what war means get hired to co-direct a fucking Gundam show?
This is a joke right?

>>14951933

i like you

>>14952536
Cute.

>>14948902
Steroids can also have emotional effects, such as depression or irritability.

Shinn's the best pilot r-right guys?
Fucking plot armor reeee

>>14953510
Shinn did everything wrong.

>>14953510
>>14953547
Shinn in the Impulse was pretty baller.
Shinn in the Destiny relied entirely on RAEGMODE and his suit's overwhelming power. He fucked up LOGOS nicely, but it made him useless against Jesus and Judas.
Shimon did a better job piloting the Destiny than Shinn.

SEED and Destiny felt like the last Gundam series which was actually about a drama set against the backdrop of a war.

00 Gundam was more like superpowered terrorists bullying the world until their conspiracy backstabs them

I didn't watch AGE.

G-Reco was barely comprehensible and I watched it for Aida anyway.

I dropped IBO about 6 episodes in but it didn't seem very compelling.

I don't know, but the shows I liked portrayed human drama and mecha combat against the backdrop of a grand conflict that occasionally took front and center.

>>14953636
Give IBO another chance

Also dropped it after a few episodes but gave it another try a few weeks later... It's really not that bad

>>14953547
>>14953510
>>14953632
It's honestly hard to say.

Shinn in the Impulse (when the series bothered giving him any focus) seemed to know what he was doing, and could pretty quickly adapt to any changes on the battle field, and how he dismantled the Freedom shows that he pretty much mastered the Impulse Gundam

Shinn in Destiny Gundam (when he has no focus or character) zips around EA mobile suits and is fucking invincible, but when fighting Kira or Athrun, the same beam shields that blocked a Destroy Gundam's main arsenal can hardly block a beam shot from S-Freedom.

There's the idea that "well, he's on RAGE EASYMODE NOW, STAB STAB STAB", but that's because they're being fucking cheap and using stock footage all the time.
If the idea is that he's relying on Destiny's power, it wouldn't be too hard to write in a scene or two where someone implies that, or Shinn himself says something along those lines, but nothing.

Because of the rushed pace and sloppiness of the series, Shinn is ultimately just turned into fodder for Kira and Athrun to beat up. Why do you think Shinn ended up fighting Athrun at the end? Because they could (and DID!) use stock footage during the final battle.

What a fucking joke.

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Impulse was a good design.

>>14953825
Yeah, a cute mech

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>>14953990

>>14953510
Shinn a shit

>>14953636
00 was the shit though, especially s2