Super Robot Wars V

>>14874017

> Game reveals to the characters they are in a crossover game near the end due to Might Gaine's plot.
> Kira is disgusted to learn that the guy who directed his show was also heavily involved in Cross Ange. He really doesn't like her.
> Also pissed the way his own show went, bemoaning how awful his canon counterpart became.
> Everyone decides to fight fate and change their endings.
> Also, they call out Ange.

>>14874017
Yamato, Mazinger Zero, DRAGON World from Cross Ange and Getter Robo Armageddon are all one giant Crapsack world.

>>14874017
Don't care that much, I just want Might Gaine stuff and more combination attacks

>>14874017
I'm expecting to be putting most of my focus during the gameplay (in the far-flung future when I've either gotten a PS4 or some cheap way to Vita play) to be ZERO and Might Gaine.

I'm also expecting the ZERO bit to be little more than an alteration on how Ankoku Daishogun was handled in BX, with ZERO being a stand-in for what SKL did to help out. Ideally I'd hope for them to just go all-out and have ZERO be a way to fight and defeat Hades and the Mycene, though.

Mostly I'm just expecting a lot of hate and indifference when the next PV hits and subsequently the game itself.

>>14874068
Nah, I have a feeling Zero will have a big role to play since with Cross Ange we're dealing with parallel universes in some manner and that's what Zero is all about.We'll probably see the end of the Shin Mazinger arc and then jump into Zero somehow in some plot kludge.

>>14874113
Depends on how far the whole "Units only" thing stretches. Aside from ZERO himself, what does ZERO vs. Ankoku Daishogun even include? Apparently a type of Great Mazinger, but considering this is Shin Mazinger we're talking about, that's not going anywhere.

Actually, SRW V is doing a rather large amount of units-only stuff for what it is, with four series being included only for units. I suppose with Eva Q nobody's batting an eye about that, but it means Hathaway's Flash is going to be pretty pointless aside from making him relevant for maybe one stage, and there's a few people who weren't happy about the Crossbone Unit-only inclusion...which was Steel 7, I think?

>>14874124
Great Mazinkaiser had better be fucking in.

>>14874136
It's OK, anon. I'll be here to comfort you when the inevitable happens.

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>>14874017
>Super Robot Wars V

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>Coco
who? if anyone can be saved it should be zola. one and a half episodes with her wasn't enough.

>>14874017
I can't wait to see who dies first!

>>14874124
Steel 7's plot was pretty awful, even if SRW does tend to ignore kill-em-all endings. Nothing of value is going to be lost.

>>14874340

Place your bets now!

>>14874017

I have yet to watch Cross Ange. I thought these kind of characters are supposed to keep their crappy status but carry some insanely useful debuffs on their attacks and Spirit Commands that turn the OG boss into a cheesy jelly cakewalk.

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>>14874017
>Cross Ange


Of all the fucking things they could have added.

>>14874136
>Want Great Mazinkaiser

anon, we have Shin Zero as true uipgrade. Great Mazinkaiser is a secondary unit even in the manga and we still don't know if Tetsuya is in.

>>14874017
I'm expecting to ask "why wasn't this in Z3" a lot

>>14874793
I know right, Eureka Seven Astral Ocean should have been first!

>>14875197
>Eureka Seven Astral Ocean

No... NOOOOOOOOOO

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>>14875197
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>14875197
Well I mean strictly speaking it probably should've gotten into Z3 over some of the series that actually did get in

Why bring in Rebuild if you're just gonna have the plot stop after 2.0 and then do most of 3.0 off-screen and leave it unresolved with none of the rest of the cast really giving half a shit

>>14875197
Or Valvrave.

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>>14874017
Will Vivian be something like Irui having a dragon transformation attack?

https://youtu.be/uD2HPNeVMM4?t=1m23s

>>14875238
>SRW V
>No Valvrave

C'est la vie.

>>14874017
>SRW V

I'm surprised people can evenexcited over that. It's like they learned nothing from Z3.

>>14875250
BUT MUH MAITO GAYNE

But it's actually a totally alright show, and I have some miniscule hype for it.

>>14875250
>I'm surprised people can evenexcited over that.

Is this another "there are no shows that I like so it's shit"?

>>14875250
Yamato
Crossbone ( and so F91 too as Unit)
Might Gaine
ZZ Gundam
Shin Mazinger Zero upgrade

Yeah, i'm excited. Seems pretty solid rooster to me, but i'm a Gundam Fag. It would have been perfect with Majestic Prince and Buddy Complex, but it' alright.

Cross Ange is literally the last thing that interests me, but in the game I can certainly find some space for more female pilots.

>>14875347
>Crossbone ( and so F91 too as Unit)
Why are you getting any hopes up whatsoever after Z3

>>14875223
Yes.... YEEEEEEEEES!
>>14875230
But it was better than the first

>>14875352
And.. your problem is?

>>14875347
Dont forget Hathaway's flash.

Even tough i know that novel is hated, i was hoping to see the Xi in action during Tengoku.

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>>14875347
>Seems pretty solid rooster to me
>GUNDAMS GUNDAMS GUNDAMS GUNDAMSGUNDAMS
>Oh and here's your obligatory obscure 90's show slot and the modern mecha show slot which isn't really a traditional mecha show or new and something we should have done in Z3 and something nobody wanted

>>14875486
>whining so much because there is not his favorite show in the game.

Right, right... SRW is dead. Happy now?

>>14875495
We need an SRW FS (FrankenStein) up in here, then.
HELP ME RECHARGE ZE GUNDAMS WITH GETTER RAYS INSTEAD, IGOR

>>14875371
Let me put it this way: If you're hoping for anything except less than the bare minimum out of the Z team, you're going to be sorely disappointed.

There's no way that the F91 is going to appear in any capacity beyond a 2D head on a flat map, if even that.

>>14875347
>Majestic Prince and Buddy Complex

Those are as bad as Cross Ange.

>>14874017
>SRW V
>No Victory

>>14875723

Go on and tell the peanut gallery why that is, please.

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>>14875531
>There's no way that the F91 is going to appear
>What is F91 Harrison Martin Custom

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>>14875531
F91 has a fucking role in Crossbone. Harrison use it and he's a character who returns in Steel Seven. ( And he has a full squad of F91).
if they have to make cuts, it will certainly not be there.

And then F91 is the secondary unit of Seabook when Tobia take possession of the Skull heart.

>>14875782
>if they have to make cuts, it will certainly not be there.
You say that now, but you're just setting yourself up for major disappointment.

>>14875810
>Harrison Martin
>Not appearing
They have to make Crossbone post-plot to cut him out.

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>>14875810
Think what you want, It's not a battle or arguments. We are talking about nothing here. We do not even have a second PV.

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V is a standalone so I'm not expecting something big like a finale, which is why everybody was disappointed on Z3. I'm just hyped for finally getting Crossbone back, using the Xi and Might Gaine.
Also expecting Vivian to be playable to make her my top ace.

>>14875839
And Salia with a better score than Ange. For maximun trolling.

>>14875729
Because they're also post-2000's anime, and post-2000's anime are always bad.

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>>14875842
Salia won't be playable.
Still mourning the loss of her locker.

>>14875250
what was wrong with z3 again? i asked this question here like a million time and never got a reply aside from IT'S SHIT REEEEEE

>>14876033
Presentation-wise it's a step down from Z2, the plot is a mess that leads to Tengoku-hen being spent basically entirely on fighting one set of OG enemies and a lot of the series that people liked were either shafted or dropped entirely in favor of new hotness.

>>14876045
>step down
>>>>>from z2's awful presentation
jesus christ.

>>14876033
It is teh suck because no Hi-Nu/Nightingale FUUUUUUUUUU
You're outta luck, since it's been discussed to death on this board long ago, and bringing it up again tends to summon a taste of disappointed vomit in people's mouths.

>>14876049
https://youtu.be/TDWsNLqBMN8?t=3m34s
https://youtu.be/ZrPKLdRHass?t=2m19s

>>14876060
they both look really good imo.

I'm cautiously optimistic, like I am for every SRW release.

>>14876033
Frankly I do not think that Z3 is bad, the problem is that to be a Z grand finale is incredibly subdued. Important units were just made as cameo, 2D MAP even on ps3 (I can Understand Vita, but on the PS3? Oh, come on). Small portraits, and a whooping story without a good tune. In Z3 part 1 we basically have true Char pretending to be retarded, while Fake Char, is the one that wants to throw the colony drop. This thing is so ridiculous. Full Frontal had the sense of exist proper to the lack of Char. Of course, Z2 was a story mess too, all this to batch the most popular show of our time together without a logical point. Z3 Part 1 is also pretty weak graphically, seems to be made in a hurry.

In terms of gameplay I did not dislike it, one step ahead over srw Z2 Saisei hen.

But I liked Hakai hen more.

I just hope the Asian translation is better than moon dwellers

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>>14876190
It will be same. And I'm ready to enjoy it.

>>14875316

No, it's more of a "It looks like and is reusing resources from Z3 which was shit so it will probably be shit as well."

>>14876212
>It looks like and is reusing resources from Z3 which was shit so it will probably be shit as well."

W, MX and Alpha 2 say hi.

>>14876218
J wasn't great, but it wasn't shit, either, and MX and Alpha 2 have all-new art assets.

>>14876210
Crabsticks are go then.

>>14876218
The difference is that those games, (not sure if mx and alpha 2 reused assets but if they did) reused assets that were worth a damn.

Z3's animations were stiff, awkward, and a downgrade from Z1 on PS2. The sprites may be more shiny than those of the older "Modern" SRW games but they lack the fluidity that titles such as MX, @3, Z1, and in some cases even Z2 set as standards. Looking at some of the animations in Z3 makes me feel like i'm watching a notepad doodle animation.

>>14876212
It's less to do with the resources and more to do with the team behind it.

This was announced way back months ago and isn't out until next year.
Unless the team have literally been doing nothing the whole time (which even I don't think they've reached that level of lazy yet), then I feel there's a bit more to it than reused sprites from Z3.

>>14876565
Personally I think even the stuff that's held over from Z3 still looks decent from the teaser, and that was admittedly slap-dashed together quickly for an anniversary event, things might get even more touched up before the release.

We'll know in less than a week when we get to see a few more clips finally. I imagine this time they'll go for a shorter PV, around 5 minutes or so. Or do you think they'll go for another "showcase an attack from every series" trailer that ends with a highlights reel again?

>>14876565
There will be new choreography and new attacks for sure. They have used the same basis of Z3 for convenience. In Z3 I felt they were not yet comfortable with the HD. Also, the relatively small number of shows makes me hope for more work into the the secondary units.

>>14876565
They rushed out the announcement super early to count it as part of the 'anniversary' stuff.

>>14876210

I just can't in good conscious support something that slipshod with money

>>14876210
Translation was 'Meh' but it was English, even if it wasn't perfect it was still better than getting absolutely nothing.

>>14876280
>but they lack the fluidity that titles such as Z1,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdeZehfZWLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epvISW5dNQk
>literally every Aquarion form

Z1 had QC issues too, it had some units that looked amazing and some that looked like fucking shit. It's just not recent so memelords don't talk about it.

>>14876565
>>14876601
Thing is, literally every one of the attacks in the V trailer were new. The closest there is to reuse is Unicorn, its attack bares some slight similarity to the new attack NT-D Unicorn got in Z3-2, but all the rest? Totally new shit.

I talked about this in /srwg/ once, did an entire "this attack compared to Z3-2 equivalent" thing. The sprites are reused, but the animation's we've seen were all new, and while I doubt everything is all new, that's still a good start.

I could probably dig through the archives and find it if anyone wants.

>>14877193
You do not have to explain that to me. You have to explain this to this faggots >>14876778
But of course no ones give a shit about his opinion.

Well just the fact that Hathaway’s novel Gundam is in gives me some, though not a lot, hope that they're adding Hi Nu this time round.

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>>14878277
Why do you want that piece of junk? Seriously, why people like so much the Hi Nu? The Nu Gundam has better design, better color, cooler funnels with not symmetrical stand.

I know it would be nice to give Amuro a new upgrade, but... the Nu is pretty cool.

>>14878305
God bless ya, the Nu can out pretty the Hi-Nu any day of the week, fuck that purple piece of symmetrical shit

Still trying to think really what the Yamato series can contribute plot wise, unit wise and enemy wise.

>>14874136
>>14874884
There would be no better way to build hype for this game than having Great Mazinkaiser and showcasing a new Final Dynamic Special with the updated casts and units from Mazinger ZERO and Getter Armageddon in the next trailer.

>>14878327
>unit wise
Probably just the battleship. And it'll be one of those super-traditional battleships with no barrier and like 2 pilots and mediocre armor but the mapw range will be huge.

>>14878018
But the Z1 versions of Orguss and Aquarion looked more fluid and had better choreography than their Z3 versions did by a country mile

Same thing when going from Hyaku Shiki to Sazabi

>>14878339
How? Most of the people here have not even idea of what is the Grat Mazinkaiser. Apart from Spain, Italy and perhaps France, I do not know where else they have published Shin Zero.

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>>14878342
>Probably just the battleship

I also hope for the jets as support units for heal and weapon supply. I want to Melda Deitz full playable with Akira.

PS: yes, it's a pic for an ant, sorry.

>>14878327
They'll just hastily do the Yamato plot in a route split since it doesn't fit in with any of the other series plots.

I actually don't mind them reusing the Z3 sprites, since most of those looked fine.

If they can just improve the animations for the returnees then it should be fine.

>>14878480
Aside from Unicorn, Mazinger and 00, I'd say the the animations are actually worse. Even the new stuff doesn't seem to hopeful when Vilkiss is a total mess and the Yamato is a 3D model.

>>14878453
But isn't the game called V for "Voyage"? It'd be odd if the Voyage aspect were restricted to a route split.

>>14878503
The actual voyaging will be dimension hopping thanks to Cross Ange's bullshit.

Oh, and I guess Mars and Jupiter stuff too.

>>14878503
About as odd as Mazinger's true power being unlocking its finisher from a previous game and +100 armor but here we are

>>14878485
We see very little in the first PV, stop writing crap.

>>14878550
Trailers should be indicative of what the rest of the game will look like, shouldn't they? An what the trailer was for the most part was slapdash horseshit. Thus, it's not exactly a massive reach to say that the rest of the game will probably be slapdash horseshit, is it?

>>14878503
>>14878507
That would be somewhat fair, since Might Gaine's plot is supposed to be local.

>>14878485
>Aside from Unicorn, Mazinger and 00, I'd say the the animations are actually worse.
>CrossBone is shit

You're talking out your ass here.

>>14878590
I think that part of the sentence was just for the guys ported over from Z3.

>>14878590
I was talking about the stuff they're reusing from Z3.
Of the new stuff, Crossbone and Mazinger Zero look good, while the rest is iffy at best and Tristan Divider-tear at worst.

>>14878604
>I was talking about the stuff they're reusing from Z3.

They showed almost all new attacks and the only questionable thing are Vilkis and, maybe the Exs Gundam, but its attack was too short to judge. Stop shitposting, no one cares if you lost faith.

>>14878634
>Exs Gundam

Yeah yeah, i'm wrong here, it's the RX 105. "Ksee" not the Exs.

>>14878634
Not that guy, but 'stuff' being reused clearly meant 'series', not specific animations.

>>14878641
Xi Gundam. Greek letters and all.

>>14878642
>Xi Gundam. Greek letters and all.

It's Rx-105 Xi Gundam Ksee. If we must make clarifications.

>>14878634
>If you're not as much of a corporate shill as I am you're a shitposter!

>>14878657
...what? It's just Xi Gundam. 'ksee' is just roughly how to pronounce it.

Or Ξ Gundam, if you really want to be pedantic.

>>14878663
I only made a quick fix since I had wrote Exs. Rx-105 was not wrong in first place.

>>14878684
...yes, Rx-105 is the model number.

What, do you write that out for every gendum you talk about as part of its name? Hope you never have fucking reason to talk about V Gundam shit.

>>14878694
I have no idea what the fuck are you writing now. A lot of Gundam are called by their number.

Mine was just a quick fix to prevent someone like you, but I see that it was fucking useless. Okey my bad. Enjoy your V-ictory in a futile argument.

>>14878702
the only gundam that gets called by model number is the granddaddy and that's because its easier to identify. literally never have I seen any other gundam been called by model number.

>>14878714
>iterally never have I seen any other gundam been called by model number

Ehm... I say it with no offense ... Are you really sure that you want to continue this argument? Because, seriously, you're going in the wrong side of the fence now.

(Like... model number: F91)

>>14878729
that doesn't really count because it's exactly the same as the name of the gundam itself so there is no choice but to call it by the model number since it is the same as the name.

do you call victory gundam by its fucking model number?

But will there be a chance that Rein and the Penelope will join?
Or will Hathaway literally get the Xi for no reason?

>>14878739
>That doesn't really count because i say so.
>Victory, Victory, Victory.

I could explain to you that the Gundams are almost always military prototype created for testing purposes and by this, there are cases were the number become a name, like F91 because - Formula was the project name.

By the way, I see more people write "GP01" rather than Zephyranthes. I could explain to you that sometimes we/they use the number for convenience. Have you seen 0083? Most of the time the characters prefer to use the numbers to call the units "GP01, GP02, GP03". How strange, isn't?

There are a lot of cases where the Gundams are called by their military numer.

>>14878765
We do not know. Maybe it will be a rewrite of Hathaway Flash by Banpresto.

>>14874017
Original Character and Enemies that surpassed EGD.

>>14876210
These loser kids from School are just canon fodder.

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>>14878765
They certainly will find an excuse to have Rain and Penelope recruitable.

Still today I can not understand how this ... over-designed thing can move.

>>14878765
They'll be in as an attack for Xi.

>>14878926
>>14875531

Samefag?

>>14876565
Should not be a short new pv, in a few days?

>>14879079
has there even been any V news since the first trailer?

>>14879101
There's going to be more info on Sunday apparently

>>14878379
>Aquarion looked more fluid and had better choreography than their Z3 versions did

...you mean, the mech who's animations were like 90% unchanged looked "better" in the old version?

Z3 Aquarion had a worse Mugen Punch than Z1 and a better Solar Sword, so it's pretty even.

>>14878503
It's called Voyage for the meta reason of the game itself being the first regular game to leave Japan. They literally said this right after the reveal.

>>14879606
>and a better Solar Sword,
You're a retard

>>14879606
Doesn't fly during the gun animation, because that's too hard.
Went from two fluid and dynamic punches to one stiff one, because that's too hard.
Mugen Punch doesn't even show the impact and dropped the DK, because that's too hard.
3D Attack dropped entirely, because that's too hard.
On the sword, Aquarion's swings are much stiffer (because they're reusing the punch animation).

Basically all of its animations are a direct step down.

>>14879633
It doesn't have those fucking bendy wings, that makes it 100% better.

>>14879654
>3D Attack dropped entirely, because that's too hard.

Instead, it has Departure Deathblow.

>>14879721
You mean the attack it got in Z2, where it also had the 3D Attack?
Oh, right, of course. Aquarion didn't actually show up in Z2. My mistake.

>>14879606
>Its a Mattman has a bad opinion episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03-BWrk3wn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsUGxqGlkP0

The Z3 Aquarion does not fucking move.

>>14878153

Yeah how dare I expect a commercial product to be translated with an ounce of professionalism. Im such a faggot for not blindly throwing my money away at every half hearted SRW product with a logo on it.

>>14879765
>Yeah how dare I expect a commercial product to be translated with an ounce of professionalism.

Well said, now BTFO. No, you are not really wrong, but expect a professional translation from a niche game that is not even planned to go out Asia sounds a bit presumptuous. The only way to have a decent translation, is to convince Banpresto that there are a Western public, but I do not think our numbers are so relevant to them, so this translation is already a miracle.

Anyways, i'm an ELS French. MD translation was decent enough for me. The game was perfectly understandable.

>>14879796

How is expecting basic grammar and consistent spelling presumptuous? It would actually take less work to have one guy do it right than what looks like a whole team who never say a word to each other.

>>14879738
If he thinks 'not moving = better' then he probably had an orgasm any time Godmars fucking did anything.

>>14874884
Shin Tetsuya is actually Koji's dead uncle right?

46 posters and nearly triple the posts, so I'm assuming some people here are samefagging pretty hard

>>14881309
>posters in a thread with back-and-forth discussion are posting more than once
Thank you for your valuable input, Captain Obvious.

>>14881273
Except he might not be dead. This is what hurts about not getting sequels to a show that was clearly meant to have them

>>14881439
Whatever happened with that, anyway? Did Shin just flop super hard?

>>14881445
Shin was always going to have a cliffhanger ending, since all Mazinger Zs have a cliffhanger ending. No clue why they didn't continue it, probably had a good reason though.

>>14881469
>all Mazinger Zs
>out of a grand total of one before Shin
>and its sequel literally started the next week

>>14881445
No one really knows
I've seen anons go back and forth on sales figures several times with no real conclusion other than "it did poor in general, but a little better than average DP stuff" at best
The only thing I know for sure is that Imagawa said in interviews that he wants to direct a sequel to Shin, but apparently it isn't possible "for various reasons"

>>14881147
In other news, Bandai is releasing this to coincide with the release of SRW V according to the product description. Will this mean anything for the game?

>>14881499
Probably not, but it would be wacky as hell if this meant something, and that ended up being an accidental spoiler/leak.

Seems too farfetched, though.

>>14881499

2017年発売予定のスパロボ最新作PlayStation® 4/PlayStation® Vita用ソフト「スーパーロボット大戦V」で衝撃のデビューを飾るマジンエンペラーGを最速立体化!
スーパーロボット超合金の世界が広がります!

Can Someone translate? If indeed the Mazinkaiser G appears in SRW V it would be a significant spoiler.

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>>14881469
>Shin was always going to have a cliffhanger ending
>/m/ and spics are the only people who keep saying this when sales data for Shin has been available for years