is Full Frontal the worst Char's clone?

>>14871726
Yeah

>>14871726
He's "closer to the ground" than any other Char.
The only flaw is the uncreativity of him as a character

>>14871726
he and cuck mask from F91

>>14871726

Eh, I'd put him above Neo Roanoke and Zeheart at the least. Maybe Rau and Iron Mask too. I like Full Frontal though, so I'd put him higher than most I suppose. Instead of being a figurative clone, he's a literal one and I don't mind that. More could have been done with the concept, but I like what it is there on the whole.

>>14871726
Yes. He's not even a character, he's a literal plot device.

>>14872646
Nah. Zeheart got ruined once most of the senior staff and writers were fired and replaced near the end of AGE which is why his character goes completely 180. Roanoke also has his own thing has going for him.

No one tops Full Frontal as being the worst.

>>14871726
Isnt this The Real Char, not a Char Clone?

I get that he implied a few times that hes not the Real Char but why would Lalas ghost come talk to a Fake Char as hes about to die?

>>14872968
He's literally Venom Snake.

>>14872968
I thought it was his ghost possessing some dude who was modified to hold his spirit. Of course there are some people who, for whatever reason, claim that Amuro was actually doingg the possessing.

>>14872968
>Isnt this The Real Char, not a Char Clone?
No, he's definitely a clone.

>In actuality, he was a genetically altered near identical Cyber Newtype copy of Char. Possessing even the diagonal scar above the bridge of his nose. His memories were implanted from the Psycoframe that absorbed the "Will" of Char that drifted through space. He possesses the remnant thoughts of Char (part of his soul) which were distorted in despair because humanity did not change after witnessing the miracle that occurred during "Axis Shock". Later when witnessing the miracle again with Banagher, he was contacted by the spirits of Char Aznable and Lalah Sune who told him it's time for him to move on. Full Frontal's "spirit" then merged back with Char's.

>>14872984
>''''''''''''real'''''''''''' robot lore

lel

>>14872984
So basically the entire plot of Unicorn is that the ending of CCA meant nothing and it broke Char's heart?

>>14873025

Less that it meant nothing and more that the entirety of humanity didn't change in the space of 3 years even really take much notice of a single isolated event that most of them didn't even know about - so obviously nihilism was the only answer, because even Char's clone is an impatient asshole.

>>14871726
yep

I really dislike how every gundam is required to have a Char.

Is Full Frontal even to be considered a Char from a trope perspective? Isn't Riddhe closer to a Char clone than him?

>>14873025
Unicorn isn't canon.

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harry is my favorite clone.

>>14873205
Jesus fucking christ how many things aren't canon

>>14873291

Nothing is canon anon. Not even 0079, tv show or movies. There is no canon. Think about it!

>>14872672

> the senior staff and writers were fired and replaced near the end of AGE

I'm pretty sure that didn't happen. His character does a 180 because the writers were bad and thought him buying in to Ezelcant's plan due to sunk cost was good tragedy, not because there were new writers.

>>14873295
Go to bed, Kawamori, you're stoned.

>>14873310

But there's NUNs under my bed.

>>14873291
Only ANT.

>>14873291
Anything you don't like.

>>14873306
I'm pretty sure there was a staff shakedown near the end AGE when its last arc. I'm pretty sure I remember there being a shit ton of threads about this back in 2012 on /m/ in fact.

>>14873510

There were threads about the staff interviews where the staff talked about how Hino ignored them at times or didn't turn up for some meetings around the end of the show. I don't recall any about staff changes though.

>>14873177
Riddle is a Jerid.

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>>14874249
>Riddle

>>14874249
Riddhe is an inverse Jerid. He doesn't die, reaches his potential as a Newtype, and doesn't have a single girlfriend killed.

>>14874052
Please don't pair Eli with a shittier like Frontal

>>14874678
Or a girlfriend

HIYOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Plot twist is that CCA char is full frontal

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>>14874713
>Or a girlfriend.
Wrong.

>>14875935
Plot twist that the CCA Char is actually the real Char Aznable from Origin and Casval actually died during his battle with Haman

>>14875996
she a cunt

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>>14872074
>cuck mask from F91

>>14876947
isn't this guy angelo from unicorn?

>>14877516
no, he's Cecily's dad from gundam F91

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Mr. Bushido.
It feels like they included him for the sake of having a blatantly obvious Char. 00 S1 had no set one. Both Graham and Saachez had Char-like characteristics, but none of them were really a Char.

Also his getup is silly as fuck.

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>>14876465
t. Neo-Zeon skinhead

She is best girl.

>>14877572
Same character in season 1 with a mask. And Ali has more in common with Gym and Yazan then anything with Char outside of red colored mobile suits.

>>14871726
I think him being a bad Char's clone was part of the plot, and maybe his name being a fuck position has something to do with something.

>>14875996
>>14877590
>she's slobbering all over riddhe's dick
>he goes for the dirty zeek
Why did he have such shit taste?

>>14877590
Funny how everybody glosses over how Marida is personally responsible for the deaths of possibly thousands, and didn't show even a second of remorse over it.

>>14877572
But it was more for comedic relief that 00 needed.
Like
>omg here comes Mr.Bushido xDDD

>>14871726
I'd say Full Frontal is pretty bland

>>14873025
>basically the entire plot of unicorn meant nothing
FTFY

>>14871726
He's batter than that guy from Seed, Rua or Rou or Roa or Ruouxuxoxuiua or however you spell that faggot's name

Damn, I'd even say Zecks is marginally preferable

I can't comment on Zeheart since I haven't seen age

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>>14871726

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>>14871726

>>14873319

This made me chuckle audibly

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>>14871732

Pretty much this. As a character himself he's not bad at all, with a clear and sensible motivation. Hell, his plan is makes more sense than anything else that happens in Unicorn.

Still, the fact that he is -literally- a Char clone possessed by the ...soul of Char is just creative bankruptcy.

>>14880953
not really a char clone

>>14872984
i love this newtype bullshits

>>14873295
Japs don't care that much about canon shits.

>>14877572
i kinda like his bushido design but i agree with that you said it's true

Also, it's interesting to note that Full Frontal's Sleeves were the only Zeon Uprising that didn't attempt to drop a colony on Earth.

In fact, the Battle of Palau it could be said that the Feddies attempted an asteroid drop on the zeeks. A brutal, if amusing, twist of norms.

>>14882257

They might not care as much, but some of them do still care. Hence the oft quoted interview about how only animated stuff is official (really: canon). The interview is specifically referring only to suit design and mainly dismissing stuff from games, but the fact Gundam producers were asked to weigh in on it at all kind of proves some Japs do in fact give a shit about it.

>>14882278
they do only for a moment.

>>14878148
She never did. She pointed out that fact right to Banana's face.

>>14880574
This

>>14872984
BRAVO
KINOANIMATOGRAPHIE

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Minerva

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me

>>14872977
Full frontal isn't nearly as cool as venom though

>>14884273
it's like Mask tried his best to be the antagonist but fails badly.
he's just a nice guy with inferiority complex

>>14884461
He wasn't even wrong. Bellri was a traitor to his country and people and basically deserved to die.

>>14871726
No. Not at all. Do ya'll not remember Silver Clown from G Unit?

>>14884273
He's one of my favorites because he had better and more clear motivations than Belri. I rather consistently rooted for him over the fucking protagonist, so I'm sure they had to be doing something right.

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>>14871726
>Char

>>14884273
he's dumb.

>>14880953
I only watched G-Saviour once so it's kinda hazy but isn't he more like Jerid?

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>>14886419
>Jerid

>>14873291
guncannon is not canon

>>14887216
Do the Japanese even really care about canon? It seems like the only people obsessed with it are people in the west.

>>14887287
It's likely a Rashomon kind of deal in that they can pick and choose what elements are what really happened, while discarding the rest. To quote Doyle, "Once you eliminate the impossible, and whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth".

One big case is Kawamori pretty much claiming that none of Macross is canon, since every media is a reinterpretation of true events that only he knows about.

>>14887287

Yes, despite people constantly saying otherwise. As a society they don't care as much as the West tends to, but there are still individuals that care as much and there are enough of them to be noticable and for companies to cater to. It's also probably a case that the Japanese are adopting the Western attitude to it over time and care more now than they did a century ago or whatever. If you want proof you only have to look to the interview from 2001 or so where various Gundam producers were asked to weigh in on the canonicity of suits from various games, with the interviewers mostly curious about the status of the suits from the Gihren's Greed games. The producers even broke the officiality of them down in to color levels: black, grey and white compromising those that are definitely official, those that are questionable and those that are definitely not official. It's why Tomino also had to try to clarify the chronology of Turn-A and G-Reco in placement both to each other and to UC. He doesn't seem to care about that, but some fans certainly do.

>>14876947
This

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>>14884273

>>14888179
>that the Japanese are adopting the Western attitude

Now slow down, the only people to care about canon in their fiction a whole lot are US capeshit comic fans. Those barely make up 0,0001% of the population of the US, so it's ridiculous to claim that there's anything European about that attitude.

I don't see people reeeing about The Metamorphosis, complains about Vogelweide straight up trolling other versions of the Parcival-material are minimal and about what Ulysses did to the Odyssey-material are nonexistant. Likewise, nobody gave a rat's ass about how Twilight is a pretty terrilbe Mormon fanfic. Heck, even the Star Wars fandom isn't as butthurt over the non-inclusion of most of Euro Star Wars as capeshit fans are about anything and everything.

>>14884273
he is so bland

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>>14871726
this

>>14890796
In the context of his universe, he made a lot of sense.

>>14890796
You must have confused worst Char clone with Best Char clone. In fact, Rau was such a great Char clone that Unicorn had to rip off his nihilism schtick just to give Frontal some semblance of a personality and give something for Banana to argue against.

>>14889129
>0,0001%
>,

You clearly aren't from the west so you wouldn't know.

>>14890810
No he didn't.

>>14890810
distorted sense

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>>14871726

>>14893544
shes the best char clone

>>14889129

Star Wars fans, Star Trek fans, W40k fans and others all complain about canon too. In fact, any franchise with multiple entries that's more than a few years old has some fans who complain about canon. Star Wars is probably the most prevalent example despite your post, as shown by Disney's take over and subsequent cleansing if canon - a move which had fans foaming at the mouth for months. That's a bigger reaction than Marvel or DC has ever had to my knowledge.

And there's nothing exclusively US about cape fans, never mind fans of Star Wars, Star Trek etc. Europeans and Australians are in on it too. Probably other nations and continents too for that matter, though to a lesser degree most likely.

>>14894336
Its funny you bring up Disney rebooting Star Wars when they literally reintroduced EU but said everything is the "same level of canon" as long as books and comics don't outright contradict the films or TV series. Or stuff like the RoTS novel being heavily involved by Lucas as per Stover's literal testimonial on theforce.net's message board.

>>14894436

It's funny you think that contradicts Star Wars fans being conscious of and worried about canon.

>>14894466
I literally never even addressed that at all nor was it even my intention.

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>>14886063
Nah.

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this

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>>14893544

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>>14871726

>>14871726
F-Full Frontal is Char's (Casval Rem Deikun) only c-clone
you baka!

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>>14897208
>yfw The Sleeves obtained Glemy's cloning technology and mass produce Chars

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>>14897231

> Gundam ZZ Alpha has an entire squadron of shota Char clones piloting salmon pink Zaku IIIs

He was definitely one who had zero motivation to do anything.

It's sad because I like his "red comet" mobile suit

>That box is mine because fuck you I wanna be in this story

>>14898505
this

>>14898505
He did it because he felt he had to but yeah, I liked him for the fact he realized Char was a damaged person and in no way any kind of savior making the entire endeavor pointless, and he just kinda goes through the motions like he's tired of all this shit.

Make him Johnny Ridden originally and I'd rate him an 8/10 character.

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>>14899479
>Make him Johnny Ridden
Thank god he wasn't, MSVR is a shit load more interesting than Unicorn.

>>14901082
lewd

>>14902550
Still better then Rau, Neo, and Full Frontal or Chronicle.

>>14880574
The WORST Char clone

Also a huge slut

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>>14895969

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This

>>14889214
Fuck you

He did nothing wrong

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>>14877516
Ye.

>>14877533
He can be both.

>>14904012
Was Zechs the only Char Clone who went through all the motions of Char's progression?

>first third of W: basically Char in 0079
>middle of W: basically Quattro in Zeta
>end of W: midlife crisis Char in CCA
>EW: Harry Ord 2.0

Is Double X the only gundam that didnt have a Char clone?

>>14904942
There's Lancerow. He's the ace newtype pilot of the space faction, but doesn't wear a mask and doesn't really have complex motives or ambitions that I recall.

Also they were kinda lazy with his character design, he looks like Treize.

>>14904948
Not really a Char clone then. He doesnt match any of the typical tropes. (and doesnt play a major part in the series at all, only showing up in the last 6 episodes)

>>14904951
Depends how loose you are with the Char archetype. If we restrict it to actual mask wearing people who are using an assumed name, then there's not a lot of them. Even fewer if it's "person with a revenge vendetta".

>>14904967
Of we go by person with revenge motive, the newtype brothers match closer to char than Lancerow. Hell, even Ennil matches closer to Char

>>14905922
loli shit

>>14884273
yep, the retarded tumblrina.

>>14876947
>>14875107
I have doubt between these two idiots.

>>14910837
This guy was failure from beginning to end.

>>14871726
He's not really a character and his actual backstory is so fucking stupid that it ruins the story of Unicorn

>>14910837
>>14910862
he wears his underwear on his face

>>14890896
Rau didn't even do anything in fact he isn't even given much relevance in the story until his final confrontation with Kira when its shown that he's just a butthurt clone, he only "makes sense" in the context of CE due to the fucked up nature of the era but outside that he comes off as a child with a tantrum.

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>>14890896
>Best Char clon
it's that dude.

>>14897190
DELETE THIS

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>>14871726

He's bad because he's a clear cop out to bring back the Char (Casval) character after he had died in CCA. He's pretty much exactly what you'd expect Char to behave. On top of that he's a CHAR within a continuity that has the original Char (Quattro notwithstanding because he is Char).

>>14911013
Why is his backstory stupid?

Why isn't he a character?

>>14911071
Full Frontal is literally a clone infused with Char soul.

It's Char coming back from the death.

I don't know how this is hard to get.

And this isn't lol bad writing because souls are a thing in UC.

>>14911072
>Why is his backstory stupid?

The fact that he practically has no backstory is what makes him stupid.

>>14911097
But he has, the man is a clone made by the Republic of Zeon in order to garner support, because nothing speaks for spacenoid than Char.

>>14911074

I think it's more the fact that it's pretty unprecedented in UC is what makes his whole deal so dumb. I mean, being infused with the soul of someone else makes you act like them? Okay. But it also makes you look like them, too? Come the fuck on. That's a pretty big pill to swallow. Frontal even had the scar that Char got from Amuro for some reason. You'd have to look in Future Century for something like that to have happened -- and outside the super crazy fighting moves, UC-like newtype-ism is practically non-existent in FC.

i don't know how anybody who has been watching the series long enough would believe that this was anything but a cop out.

>>14911116
I got it. We'll make it so convoluted it'll be hard to figure out that things got stupid!

>>14911013
unicorn ruins the story of uc so fair is fair

>>14911106
When was Char cloned?
Who cloned him?
Was Frontal just sitting in a tank somewhere until he was "activated?"
How did he get infused with Char's soul?

The show doesn't answer any of these questions and even the fluff is very vague on it.

>>14875996
god damn riddhe won the uni corns

>>14911153
>>14911158
Glemy Toto is true Riddhe father

>>14911124
>When was Char cloned?
After CCA.
>Who cloned him?
The Republic of John.
>Was Frontal just sitting in a tank somewhere until he was "activated?"
Yes, like fucking Puru 2.
>How did he get infused with Char's soul?
He was programmed to be like Char until the program actually gets possessed by Char.

>>14911116
He's a fucking clone of Char, of course he's gonna look like him, the case of Puru and her clones.
>I mean, being infused with the soul of someone else makes you act like them? Okay.
Dude, the body is a vessel, if that soul possesses that vessel, Char is reborn.
>Frontal even had the scar that Char got from Amuro for some reason.
Surgery in order to be convincing, a lot people know Char, so he must look exactly like Char.

>>14876947
this is most stupid

>>14911106
He wasn't cloned. In the novels he's literally some mook who got caught in the Sazabi's psychoframme with Char's memories making his believe he's Char

>>14911074
>>14911204
>>14911223
Nice fanfiction but that's not the case. Its not really explained only left to a vague symbolic pretense because his actual backstory is fucking retarded.

>>14911223
>Surgery in order to be convincing, a lot people know Char, so he must look exactly like Char.

This logic goes out the window when it's already widely known that Full Frontal is in fact not Char. So what's the point?

>>14911204
>Like Puru
Unicorn is 3 years after CCA, and we're supposed to believe that Zeon made this age-accurate clone of Char in a tank somewhere and they booted him up to lead the Sleeves and find Laplace's box? Or did they have him in the tank since before the OYW?

UC is fan-fiction tier shit.

>>14913223
>we're supposed to believe that Zeon made this age-accurate clone of Char in a tank somewhere and they booted him up to lead the Sleeves and find Laplace's box?

Yes.

It's best not to think about it.

Plot holes aside as to Full Frontal's existence within canon, I was so hoping that in the anime series reboot, that we were going to get extended scenes that documented the relationship between Full Frontal and Angelo, as well as some fleshing out of Full Frontal's actual character. Disappointingly we got neither of that.

I liked Unicorn Gundam, mostly only for the story between PLE 12 and her adopted daddy and the general soundtrack / animation quality. If anything that makes me dislike it's what it could've been if only a little bit more attention was given to certain characters so we could actually give 2 shits about them.

>>14904942
I'd argue 00S1. Graham is an ace, but he doesn't really have any personal ambitions other than his own pride. He just really wants to take out those gundams, which is what the rest of the Union want too.

>>14910837
he's stupid

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>>14913309
bullshit

>>14871726
>flies Banagher through motherfucking space and time to the end of existence
>gives a nihilistic speech
>everything looks like it's all hopeless for Banagher
>then Lalah's spirit comes out of nowhere and says "Time to go"
>Full Frontal: "Okay"

baka what were the writers thinking.

>>14916844
>Shit, we're running out of budget on this hour and 30 minute long OVA, how do we conclude it?

>>14917213
But the source material was a novel, so the production of the anime shouldn't affect it.

>>14917232
>shit, I'm running out of time until the deadline of the next chapters are due.

>>14911158
This guy got some shocks during the vacations.

he's more "boring" than bad.

>>14916844

Well for a start, they don't fly through time - they experience the universe's memories, which is, in a way, even more retarded. Banagher also isn't saved by Lalah talking Frontal out of it. She was able to talk him in to letting go because Banagjer's refusal to accept his nihilism or determinism left him in a state of apathy.

Also, they were thinking "we don't want to finish it with a big fight, but with a battle of wills and views" if I recall the interviews right. Their way of doing that is still dumb, but I can respect the thought behind it at least.

>>14917232

The anime was based on the novels and while it shared a lot of points, it diverged from it significantly in a few places, including the finale with Full Frontal. The novels have Banagher and Riddhe double team him after Marida does some damage before she dies if I recall, and he pilots the Sinanju the whole time since the Neo Zeong is an anime only unit.

>>14915672
this

>>14894973
Mega cuck!

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this

>>14893544
Most fuckable.

>>14876947
So He's either a lunatic, or He really is God.

He is the only Char Clone that is literally an actual Char clone

>>14893544
>moe char clone
disgusting

At least he had a good plan for actually defeating Earth, but it's Gundam so
>le SOREDEMO xDDDDDD

Captain mask is the worst cause "muh privilege" his whole motivation was shit, like a shittier version of Rau's, at least rau had his fucking mania. FF was pretty sound in his plan, I liked him. Iron mask was a cuck but I love the look. Zechs was my fav besides Char. Zeheart was kinda dumb at the end but at least he looked better than jockstrap on the face chronicle.

>>14898933
I don't like her

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>>14871726
no

>>14871726
No, Chronicle is the most bland

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this

Full Frontal is the worse. I think the author was satiring his own work by creating a literal Char clone. Because it makes sense right? Unicorn is a soulless follow up of CCA in an episodic format to make it artifically more drawn out as a conflict for Bandai's heartless procurment of more MSV stuff to peddle more model kits and games.

And Full Frontal is to Char what Unicorn is to CCA. Pointless, unnecessary, without depth, purpose, or development. Just a shallow "vessel" to transport the desire of more money. And following the shittiest FF as far as Char clones would be people like Rau, Chronicle, and Zeheart.

>>14926962
he's a lunatic

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>>14884273
I actually find Mask's bit really interesting. Not much media touches that point where racism sort of exists but at the same time someone can get far while being of that race. Creates an interesting paradigm where he is right but also wrong which leads him to be as bad if not worse than other people

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>>14895969
OC

>>14917462
Marida doesn't just 'do some damage', she outright cripples the Sinanju.

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This cuck autistic

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>>14924657
I think I got dumber from reading this post

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>>14924642
>>14882239
>>14924657
>good plan
>I'm going to blackmail the EF with obtainable evidence hedging on people being that stupid
>Hey look I'm revealing the charter to the world thus rendering your plan worthless
>whelp

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>>14922991
>>14884273
>one of the only Char clone to get Char's character without copying everything on the basic level turning him into a shallow clone (FF, McGillis, Milardo, Neo) or completely missing the point turning him into a joke (Zeheart, Rau, Mr. Bushido)
>Had a better motivation than the protagonist which most Char clones don't
>competent with his only failures being unable to beat a highly advanced machine; FF, Chronicle, Zechs and Zeheart lost to mechs with inferior specs
>one of the rare few Char clones to beat the Gundam (Char, Mr.Bushido)
>bad

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>>14929131

>>14929137
>Mask: I'm trying to break the discrimination on my people
>Bellri: I'm just trying to get laid.

How is he wrong?

>>14929178
Must of taken a long time for you to find that reaction image for a rebuttal.

Full Frontal is only a shell void of its alleged content.

>>14926962

Unicorn is about as soulless a follow up of Char's Counterattack as Char's Counterattack is a soulless follow up of 0079 really - just there to drawn out another conflict for Bandai's heartless procurement of MSV so they can peddle more model kits and games.

And Char is to Char's Counterattack what Char's Counterattack is to 0079. Pointless, unnecessary, repeating the finale of 0079 and the character's bitterness over Lalah without any of the build up the original gave him. Just a shallow retread of something we've already seen to transport the desire for more money.

Personally, I'll take Unicorn and Full Frontal over Char's Counterattack and Char, because while Char's Counterattack put a completely unnecessary capstone on the relationship between Char and Amuro given the ending of 0079 and/or Zeta, Unicorn at least tried to be a cap stone for Zeon. Which no, I don't think Char's Counterattack was, since it had nada to say about Zeon or why it was a bad thing, only Char himself.

>>14930885
>Char's Counterattack is a soulless follow up to 0079
>I'll take Unicorn and Full Frontal over Char's Counerattack and Char
>"completely unnecessary capstone on the relationship between Char and Amuro"
>"Unicorn at least tried to be a cap stone for Zeon"
Nice b8 desu

>>14930986

> accusing something you don't like of bait

Well memed anon.

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>>14930991
Keep trying, kiddo.

>>14930994

Nah, I'll let you get the last word. Have fun anon.

>>14930991
>>14930991
>>14931002
>Char's Counterattack
>"Soulless"
Nah nigga you're absolutely full of shit here. Unicorn didn't try to resolve anything at all and just arbitrarily tries to decree "shit will get good now" while having nothing else going for it. Saying it tries to resolve the Zeon conflict is a half-hearted truth at best, at worst you're outright lying because it doesn't ever directly address those things.

Now sprinkle it with a bunch of undeveloped characters, a shallow repeat of CCA, and plot devices that only resolve to create more plot holes just indicates you're fishing for (You)s here.

>>14931002
Whatever you say mate.

>>14931007
Found the (You).

>>14931004

> Banagher discussing colony drops at Palau
> Marida explaining why Spacenoids bought in to Zeon
> Mineva discussing Char,Zeon and the colonies with the coffee shop owner
> Mineva urging people not to use the contents of the box as an excuse for yet more Zeon

> never addresses Zeon

>>14931016
>Banagher discussing
You mean when he shouts over people like he does 99% of the time? Also "discussing" in the case of Mineva's few times of doing it is not the same as "resolving" it. Now keep samefagging, butthurt one.

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>>14931016
Only thing Mineva ever does outside of that outlier is talk about Full Frontal being a bad man. And cryptically talking about Laplace's Box. The show is a giant red herring about everything.

>>14931024

It's the show's duty to resolve something, not one particular character to solve a societal problem. Not unless you're Lacus I guess. Mineva made a bid in the finale using a speech to the Earthsphere - chronology says it worked. At least for now. And no, Banagher discussed the drops at Palau.

Also, I wasn't aware I was making any effort to hide that I was making multiple replies. I guess you need to make up some slights so as to distract from the point though.

>>14931052
>"I'm not going to keep responding"
>"But here I am responding"
Make up your mind you dyslexic.

>>14931035
Mineva a shit like Full Frontal

>>14931766
Only characters I found likable or interesting in Unicorn were:

- Alberto
- Brown haired QT who wanted the D from Riddhe
- Daguva
- Daguva's Zeon remover second in command

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>>14931776
>Alberto

>>14932343
Yeah he was an interesting character.

>>14932645
but he is Marta's doggie

>>14886946
Even though he really shouldn't have survived being vaporized along with the Strike, I am happy that he did.

>>14933493

Not him, but that's part of what makes him interesting. He obviously doesn't like some of what she does and wants to do something different or defy her but is afraid to for most of the show despite his desires. Which makes him interesting. Seeing what will be enough to drive him over the line, how he'll do so etc is something worth keeping an eye on him for.

>>14933493
yeah

What makes a Char

>>14871726
You know what I just realized? That's got to be the most annoying collar in the world. And it looks stupid as hell, too.

But I guess he wouldn't be a real CHAR! if he didn't wear stupid shit.

>>14935816
is angelo gay?

>>14936653
Yep

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>>14871726
Me

>>14931035
Mineva a stupid

Who's the best?

I say gato

>>14938745
gato's not a char clone

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this bitch

>>14941014
I like her

>>14913176
>>14938023
they're shit

>>14931035
>>14932343
There's something really dull about the character designs in Unicorn, like they're missing souls or something.

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>>14938023
I was really dissapointed when he didn't say "Cecily, I am your father".

>>14941686
a cuck

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IBO char clone

>>14943499
>>14944384
No-Mask char

>>14943499
>>14944384
Will this be the first time we have full on Char vs. Char combat in Gundam?

>>14871726
OP Rau and Rau are Harry overestimated

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>>14884273

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this

>>14931052
How do you know?

>>14886946
>>14911034
>>14947766
Which one is better?

>>14949669
Rau

Mineva

>>14949669
gundam G char

No. It's orinal char, because he's a faggot

>>14946828
Is he reccoa?

>>14871726

Full Frontal is a solid Char Clone until the ending of the series and I don't think it's his fault that it undermines him

Chronicle, Iron Mask and Neo Roanoke are bad clones.

Bushido is 50/50 since it's a good character buried under a lame gimmick for too long.

>>14943499
This

>>14955016
Chronicle is a terrible clone

>>14871726
Original

>>14871726
Carrozo

>>14960398
This is terrible

I'd like to point out that anyone hemming and hawing over how Full Frontal is Char back from the dead with the soul of old Char and shit is bad or wrong is blissfully ignoring that that's the same shit as Schwarz Bruder.


Anyway worst Char Clone is EASILY Chronicle.

>>14945226
What about Meio Plato?

>>14873025

No, it's that Char was a moron.

Like, seeing the events of the end of CCA would make a man believe in God. I mean, it's literally the end of UC because Amuro has done the impossible. He's brought about a genuine, no-shit, miracle.

>>14964000

Why would Char believe in God or miracles when he knows it was really the psycoframe that caused it? It'd be like believing in God because the Wright Brothers caused a miracle allowing man to fly. FYI, no-one knows exactly why planes fly either before you point out that no-one understands how the psycoframe works.

>>14964030

Because shit like that doesn't happen, not in Gundam. Even Newtype weapons make a vague kind of sense.

But this? Amuro brought the Aurora, man. He channeled the Earth's survival instinct and he disintegrated Axis. Shit's physically impossible. It's the equivalent of a man striving to hold back a column so hard, he develops - for one brief, glorious instant - Superman's powers.

Or like praying to God for victory, and suddenly a thunderous voice from the heavens says I AM WITH YOU, MY SON and then it starts raining fucking fire down on the enemy.

>>14964000
>Amuro has done the impossible. He's brought about a genuine, no-shit, miracle.
It wasn't Amuro, it was the collective will of every pilot around the Axis, including Amuro, overloading the magical T.

>>14964402

It's supposed to be an inspiring miracle, but considering how much suffering happens in the UC afterwards (including what leads to the end of the UC period), it's more like a Festivus miracle than a regular miracle.

Chronicle is worst char clone

>>14871726
>Full Frontal
he's faggot like Angelo

>>14964402

Shit like that? You mean like channeling the souls of the dead to power up your suit, combining your suit using nothing but mental power and so on? While newtype weapons do make a vague kind of sense, that includes the psycoframe and what happened with Axis. In fact, as soon as it happened Char was vaguely sure of why it was happening.

> He channeled the Earth's survival instinct and he disintegrated Axis. Shit's physically impossible.

It's no more physically impossible than anything Kamille or Judau did. Putting that aside though it's also not what actually happened. He neither channeled the Earth's survival instinct nor disintegrated Axis. That's probably the worst description of the ending of Char's Counterattack I've ever seen.

I agree Char is an idiot by the way, but because he expected the entire world to change essentially overnight (within one generation anyways, which is the same thing on a social timescale), for everyone left on Earth (billions of people) to move off and for the Federation to become a squeaky clean institution and not an actual government. Which is all in Char's Counterattack characterisation and not that of Unicorn. Frontal was less of an idiot than Char's Counterattack Char to me, not more.

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Bushido

>>14964249
he's a dumb guy

>>14877572
>Mr. Bushido
Why did he do this to himself?

>>14873510
>>14873521
There wasn't a staff shakeup towards the end of AGE. There was a shakeup early on after S1 because Sunrise was moving staff around for work on multiple series.

AGE was totally the fault of Hino.

Mr. Bushido

Okay I need to ask, Im not as Privy to the details of each gundam series but..why the fuck does every char clone save for a small number all wear stupid masks when its obvious who they are? And Does every gundam series have amuro around because if Amuro is rebirthed inside someone else shoudlnt they start looking like amuro?

>>14970234
He didn't.

I remember him bringing up at some point in 00S2 that he didn't name himself that, and throughout the season the only two things he seems to care about at all are "defeat Setsuna" and "obtain new MS to defeat Setsuna". Hell, he barely even talks to the one actual friend he has left, and seems to treat "don't kill yourself for your failure" as a novel idea.

He broke at the end of 00S1 when he realized that not only had he failed Howard and Daryl (the GN Flag was destroyed, and failed to totally destroy even a weakened Exia), but he could have stopped their deaths (in his eyes) by killing that one shady guy he met once. That's why he dedicated himself to the warrior code, to apply meaning to his life - and only after he got a GN Particle fueled understanding moment did he start to be fixed. (Which is why he's so much more mature and capable in the movie.)


I think Mr. Bushido is silly too, but you can see why he fell to that point. And, hell, he's one of a very small number of Char Clones to defeat and force the retreat of the main character Gundam, and it's the only version of Graham to do so, so he inherently can't be worst.

>>14969406
>Bushido
>bad

>>14971781
yeah

>>14971860
best guy