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VOTOMs Resub project.

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So today I decided to fuck around with my Votoms fansubs. Just, you know, browse for interesting moments. And it hit me that the master wasn't just a bit shit, but the encodes are a bit shit. And ordered chapters for the ending too. Despicable.

I did some looking, and I found this Russian fansub which seems to be a marked improvement:

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=859777

Yes it's an improvement, but it's not an incredible one. It's either BD remaster or bust for getting all that's possible out of Votoms. I think.

Anyway, I've (Somehow because I'm an idiot just messing around with AegiSub) gotten the end credits on the subfile, ready to go for episode one. So I guess I can do the series relatively easily. Just got to crank it out. Is anybody interested?

And does anybody know of any spelling or name mistakes in the existing subs? I'm going to be changing Woodo to the more commonly used Uoodo as I go. While I'm in the guts of these files, I might as well fix things up, right?

So yeah, anybody care for this, and anybody know of any mistakes that need to be addressed? I can't torrent full files, but I could make a zip of the sub files when I'm done. MKVMerge is a program even an absolute idiot can use. I've managed too.

And finally, I'd love to do this for Pailsen Files too. You can tell those encodes are subpar. However, I've found no raws on Nyaa. Anybody know where I can find any? I know that show isn't the most loved, but I like having the best possible.
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>>14867252
Bump for interest.
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>>14867252
>It's either BD remaster

Hm, does a BD remaster even exist for the original VOTOMs TV series? I haven't heard of one.
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I watched the old Mangacorps DVDs how fucked were those subs? Did I fuck up??
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>>14867334

Not from what I know, which I guess was partially my point. They're running out of Gundam's to remaster, so other shows may not be too far off. So in a sense I could be wasting my time. But conversely, I could be getting sub files ready for an eventual BD remaster.
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>>14867341

They're the same subs everybody is using. They're not bad from what I know. However, everybody seems to use Uoodo while those subs use Woodo. I don't know how or why this happened. It's relatively minor. But it's a thing that shouldn't be terribly hard to fix. So, why not fix it? And so I'll fix whatever else people know about along the way.
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Ain't saying no to a better VOTOMs release.
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>tfw nobody really gives a shit about VOTOMS

;-;
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Speaking of Votoms...I hear every once in a while that there will never be BDs for Mellowlink because the masters were lost, but can anybody actually confirm this?
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>>14867629
I heard the same thing but it was for Shining Heresy, not Mellowlink. I recall somebody saying that the warehouse where the masters were stored burned down or something to that effect.
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>>14867389
VOTOMS threads last quite a while, newfag. You are on a slow board
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>>14867252
Hell yeah.
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>>14867347
Those dvds had an "inside the cockpit" menus screen it was really cool
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>>14867629
>>14867677

In my exploring of Nyaa, I've found 1.6ish sized Russian subs for both those shows. So if not BD quality, at leas likely better than the encodes we have now. However, there are no seeds. I'll leave them up for about a week, but it's not looking good.
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Better quality? Any comparison screenshots?
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>>14867742

I'm a lazy dumbass. Give it a dl and check. Bit more grain, bit more detail.
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>>14867252

Very interested in this project, OP.

For what it's worth, the AT "Strongbox" is actually "Strong Bacchus" and the other side's faction is "Gilgameth," not 'Gilgamesh." I'll try to ID more as time goes on.
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>>14867716

*1.6ish gigabyte sized.
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VOTOMS is on my short-notice backlog, please do it OP. I'd love to have a dank new release to watch for the first time.
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>>14867760

Okay Strong Bacchus sure, I have no firm feelings either way.

But Gilgameth? Never heard that one before. I've always seen Gilgamesh, like the hero of myth. Any source or further info on this?
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>>14868663
I just took a look at the Japanese Wikipedia page, it has ギルガメス (girugamesu) while the page for the hero is under ギルガメシュ (girugameshu). 'u' sounds are often dropped in spoken Japanese but knowing where requires some intuition; in this case, both words drop the terminal -u, which is how that poster derived the term "Gilgameth". I've also seen people use the katakana reading of Votoms (botomuzu, because there is no 'v' in Japanese) to claim that it should instead be translated as "bottoms", but that sounds silly and breaks with Sunrise's long-held romanization.
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>>14868809

Plus VOTOMs is an acronym.
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>>14868809

Anyway, based on this Gilgamsesh sounds more accurate. But Box ir Bacchus?
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>>14868813

Ah-ha.

>Vertical One-man Tank for Offense & Maneuvers
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>>14868813
>>14868830
Huh, I didn't know that.

>>14868820
I would have to see the katakana to tell.
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>>14868663
>>14868809
>>14868820
The correct transliteration is indeed Gilgameth.
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>>14867389
>tfw nobody really gives a shit about VOTOMS
>some of the few places that discusses Dougram

Lurk Moar faggot.
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>>14868883

Based on what?

I tend to go with real words in Romanization where possible.
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Okay, I've done some research and have finally reached a conclusion.

Both ギルガメス (Gi-ru-ga-me-su) and ギルガメシュ (Gi-ru-ga-me-shyu) represent Gilgamesh in Japanese. However, they are based on different English transliterations of the Sumerian name Gilgameš so they are pronounced differently.
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>>14868933
>>14868910
An example translated by native Japanese to show how confusing the situation is. Basically, it's an outdated Japanese transliteration compared to the more modern ギルガメシュ.
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>>14868940
The show is about 35 years old. I figure a lot of problems lime this we have come from.these things not having been standardized yet.
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Speaking as someone who's been a Votoms fan since I bought the Roman Album in San Francisco in the mid 80s when I was a teenager:

Whenever ギルガメシュ appeared in Romaji, it was always Gilgameth. Model packaging, Japanese books, anime magazines, etc etc etc. I'll look and see if I can find any examples to support what I'm saying, but I totally understand everyone's resistance to "Gilgameth."
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>>14869015

I admit I just don't like it and that could be coloring my reasoning. But I do think this seems to be a case of dated transliteration. I think erring on the side of caution for a real existing name makes sense.
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>>14869015
The romanization is all over the place when it comes to Votoms. But the fact is that you can easily search Google.jp and see that both ギルガメシュ and ギルガメス refer to Gilgamesh.
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>>14869015
Oh I just noticed something in your post
>Whenever ギルガメシュ appeared in Romaji, it was always Gilgameth
That's patently wrong. Votoms does not use ギルガメシュ. You mean ギルガメス.
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>>14867389
>;-;
Go back to gaia, you huge faggot.
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>>14868910
Man, you really are a stubborn ass, aren't you?
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>>14869099

Lol okay.

I'm seeing more proof meth is wrong than it's right in this thread.
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>>14869116
It's not that simple.
ギルガメス IS Gilgameth, phonetically speaking. However, ギルガメス is an outdated transliteration of the character that English speakers called Gilgamesh. ギルガメス is most likely the more "true" version of the Sumerian pronunciation of Gilgameš rather than the English approximation Gilgamesh. So while I would say that Gilgamesh is probably the safest way to translate it, it still remains that Gilgameth could have been the intended name.
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>>14869140
Something else to note is that the Japanese Wikipedia entry for the fictional country redirects other uses of ギルガメス to ギルガメシュ, with the first disambiguation being Gilgamesh
>この項目では、架空の国家について説明しています。その他の「ギルガメス」については「ギルガメシュ (曖昧さ回避)」をご覧ください。
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>>14868883
I dont call it Majinga
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>>14867252
>Is anybody interested?
Yes, I was going to watch it last night but I forgot the name and ended up watching something called Vortrom I believe it was called.
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>>14869549
Are you acting stupid on purpose? We're talking about two different spellings in Japanese, not how to romanize Japanese words.
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>>14869579
Gilgameth? Fuck japan
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>>14869549
>>14869561
>>14869590
What a fucking idiot you are.
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>>14869614
>/m/ is one person
Actually consider suicide, you are less than trash.
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>>14869660
No, just those three posts you cocksucker
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>>14869669
How does it feels being retarded?
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>>14869686
>those obvious line breaks
Nice try
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>>14869710
Yeah, no. It doesn't work like that kiddo, take your fucking L and kill yourself. Go ahead and prove me right
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gaia
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Okay, is the Anon pissing match over for now? Neat.

I've done more looking and I've found Shining Heresy, Last Red Shoulder, and Pailsen Files from the same uploader. All seem to be much better versions.

He also has a Phantom Arc that's a bit better.

And a Mellowlink that despite being three times bigger than what we have now, seems to be even shittier. Somehow. It's hard to tell, the file isn't done downloading.

https://www.nyaa.se/?user=202302

So check out this guys stuff. Maybe somebody could help me out with leeching and seeding as I figure out what's worth using to improve existing sub quality.

And hell, maybe look into that Gall Force and Galient stuff later.

These are those really shitty torrents that start and stop for no real reason. I do seem to be slowly getting everything, but it's a herky jerky mess.
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This whole thread reeks of underage
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>>14869686
Too bad I have the original, shitstain.
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>>14874272
Don't falseflag. You're not >>14869669
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Is that Rocky from Dougram standing next to Chirico?
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This thread is retarded and /m/ should leave fansubbbing to /a/.
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>>14868809
How do they say it in the dub?
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>>14869140
AND GAY MEN
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>>14874891
Oh look the retard is back
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>>14873706
It reeks of newfags.
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>>14874843

/a/ doesn't fansub anything old.

/m/ has a good history of dusting off the classics.

>>14875795

Yeah how did that happen? I just wanted to spruce up some fucking gritty mecha classics here.
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>>14876752
I blame Reddit.
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>>14877671
I blame spics
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>>14882465
I blame Nagai fans.
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>>14882920
Same thing.
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>>14874832
Probably. Chirico appears in a scene in Mellowlink.
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>>14886140
I heard Chirico also got a cameo in Layzner
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>>14873096
I'm going to be getting a new hard drive on Monday, so i should be able to help seed/leech then. Link the torrents your using and ill get them in my queue.
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Just wait for the inevitable BDs. It's gonna happen sooner or later.
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>>14867252
Bump
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>>14874832
Yes. The FotS has another cameo in Votoms. They show up in a bar alongside Chirico & co.
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>>14886197
[citation needed]
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>>14874832
No
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>>14886349

Pic?
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