Shin Godzilla

so does anybody know if the movie uses miniatures?

>>14823607
nope all CG

>>14823607
it uses miniatures for some of the destruction shots
dunno what percent until I see the film

also they built a giant puppet head for goji, but they may have totally replaced it with CG in every shot

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Orlando here, are we having a sweaty smelly /m/eetup or no

>>14823812
I'm open to any location in the area pretty much.

Two. More. Days.

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>Going back to Chicago this weekend to see it with friends
Life is good sometimes

>>14823921
>Chicago
>good

anyone going to Tinsletown movie 17 at Grapevine, TX?

>>14823627
It uses miniatures and CG famalam

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What is this disparity?

Someone please make a camrip
Please

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>>14824142
>different people have different opinions
Holy shit stop the presses.

Quit worrying so much about reviews, anon.

>>14824163

I was just wondering.

>>14823260
Is this movie REALLY about some sort of Japanese imperialism allegory or are people bitching about nothing like wen everyone called Godzilla vs king Ghidorah anti American?

>>14824200
It's more of a "The Japanese government is comically ineffective at getting anything done in regards Godzilla/natural disasters because of how constraining the post-WW2 constitution is" type of thing or something.

>>14824200
only fags worry about shit like that

>>14823877
goddammit i'm so envious.

Where my NYC anons?

>>14824222
Is it just me or is the response to Godzilla much less than in the previous movies? We see a few jets, some tanks, artillery but back in the older films they're pulled out whole armies of tanks, fleets and huge numbers of planes against him.

>>14824326

Because that is the point, Japan has almost no tanks or weapons to defend itself and can't respond well to situations like a Godzilla or North Korea invading. They can't make a formal army and depend on a small self defense force and help from foreigners.

The movie is realistic as fuck in that aspect.

>>14824326
It looks about as big as it is normally, from what I've seen so far, they send jets, cobra helicopters, apaches, and a large group of tanks

Only difference is that they're in waves instead of one group

>>14824338
But the maser tanks.

Won't anyone think of the maser tanks?

>>14824346

This is not that kind of a Godzilla movie, but expect to see them in the following movies, maybe Urobuchi's futuristic anime movie will have them next year.

>>14823812
I looked at Orlando, there's not a whole lot, they're 7, 715, 730, or 8

8 at Artegon on International might give the most time for people to show up, but it's the showing in their doubleplus theater that costs $14 online.
Artegon 730 is $10
Regals run around $13, except for
Regal Oviedo Mall Stadium 22 which is only $7 for some reason.
http://www.fandango.com/shingodzillagodzillaresurgence_194763/movietimes?location=Orlando,%20FL if anybody wants to look for themselves for ideas

>>14824380
Could do an Atragon theme for Artegon

>>14824380
Already got tickets for artegon at 8 with some friends, and trust me the price is worth seeing the big guy on an IMAX screen

Quick: post your favorite fight from a Godzilla film.

Mine would have to be Burning Godzilla vs Destroyah at the end.

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>>14824612
Godzilla and King Seesar vs Mechagodzilla (1974) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nxoJ5sFYIGk

Runners up are godzilla vs titanosaurus and Mechagodzilla and godzilla vs kiryu (2002)

Michigan bro here. Anyone going to the Maple Theater screening tomorrow?

>>14824092
>He fell for the Chicago is bad meme

>>14824677
>that feel when literally nowhere in the upper peninsula is getting Shin Goji
kill me my brother

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>small brain

>>14824774
>Heize

>>14824774
>American productions: 4

Godzilla 1998
Godzilla 2014

Am I forgetting something?

>>14824875
Hana Barbara and Marvel?

>>14824875
The two cartoon versions

>>14824774
>+300m
>Heize
>grouping all Millennium Gojis into one
>Ghidorah in 1962
>mentioning Battra over Mothra
>dinosaur-armadillo... you mean ankylosaur?
>giving Amerizilla normal feet
>all that traced artwork

Ayyy. Gotta love the two Godzillas' expressions though.

>>14824875
I take it they took King of the Monsters! and the Americanized KKvsG as separate movies. Or this was made in an alternate world where the two earlier American attempts came out.

>>14824875
A lot of people tend to count King of the monsters and 1985 because they had the biggest alterations in regards to adding new plot lines and editing content

>>14824892
On second thought, maybe G85 would be a more likely candidate than the American KKvsG.

>>14824565
Yeah I'm gonna try to catch the 8p there.

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>bought tickets for the first show on the 11th a few days ago at my nearest theater that nearly sold out
>the same theater added an extra screening that's in Large Screen format immediately after I got the tickets
>mfw

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Literally seeing it tomorrow evening. I can scarcely believe it. I reached a plateau on my hype and spoilers and haven't been here in a while; I felt satisfied and didn't need to look up info on it every day. And now I'm here. It's a strange middleground between hype and apathy. I was the same way the day G'2014 came out.

>>14825162
what theatre tho?

>>14825166
Local art house theater has it. Also a Regal nearby is showing it as well.

>>14824142
where are you from anon?

The theatre showing it in my area has assigned seating, and all of the good seats were taken for all of the days that weren't already sold out, so I had to buy a shitty seat on a shitty day. Fuck my life.

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Very excited to see it this Wednesday.
Only other Godzilla movie I've seen in theaters is the 2014 one.

>>14824774
The art is so endearing. It reminds me of those goofy dinosaur books I'd get at a gift shop in a museum as a kid or through a Scholastic exhibition in elementary school.

>>14824142
Tomatoes uses a binary good or bad, imdb just uses and average, f affinity weighs scores differently and has a different primary demographic

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I'm excite!

Going on Wednesday, hyped as fuck, first Godzilla I've seen in theatres since G2K 16 years ago.

Seeing it Wednesday in Montreal! first since Godzilla 2000.

>>14823260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUsCitBwY6o

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>>14824913
hell yeah

NYtimes review
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/movies/shin-godzilla-review.html?_r=2

Anyone seeing it at king of prussia on saturday?

>WV
>Nearest theater is fuckin Philly
Kill me

It's not screening anywhere I can get to.

How long until torrents or DVD or anything like that?

>WV
>Cinemark in Bridgeport
>7:30pm Tuesday,Wednesday,Thursday

Seeing it tonight with my bro at a theater around 20min from us.

Pretty stoked.

>>14824612
That's definitely one of my favorites.

Hmmm, I'd have to say Godzilla vs. Kaiser Gidorah in Final Wars is great too.

>>14824612
The Jet Jaguar and Godzilla tag team against Megalon and Gigan.

Never fails to put a smile on my face.

The top critics are destroying the movie ratings, it's over.

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>>14826718
>it's over.
NOTHING IS OVER

>>14826779
I was going to say this, kek.

>>14826718
The complaints showing are
>I don't get Japanese politics, so I'm giving it a negative
>too much politics
Not to mention one of them was all sorts of what (calling the legendary reboot the "2015 reboot", calling the 80s as one of his "lighter hearted eras").

One said the effects look like their not made to impress, but as opposed to what? Mad max was like the only impressive looking big movie of the past 2 years, every other big blockbuster like a superhero movie has looked standard or average (or terrible like independance day 2)

>>14826849

The reviews aren't so negative but they are still not tomatoes for some reason. Their reviews count more because they are top critics and they are so uninformed I can't believe they are paid for writing that garbage.

Torrents fucking when?

>>14827469
Let me guess, it's not showing anywhere near you, is it?

>>14826718

Actually, the RT rating just rose back up into the 80s.

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Theater I'm seeing it at is going to be packed. Hopefully there aren't any crusty fujoshi slagbeasts there. Looking forward to seeing ol' Goji though.

>live in Baltimore
>good number of theaters showing tonight
>basically no coverage of the movie

Should be fine, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Godzilla might be one of those things like kung-fu movies and some anime that every black guy has secret power levels in.

>>14827628
I expect some greentexts from people here.

Seeing the movie today at 7, excited as fuck.

>>14827636

Yes, it is just like that, Godzilla is liked by many black people, however they prefer the movies in which he fights another monster.

>>14827513
Not that guy, but no.
I'm going crazy.

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>Shin Godzilla is problematic

>>14827700
Link me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5F2OPaUvJo

I believe the later parts is what breaks the film for people. I feel that's when the film gets too focused on the politics than, you know, dealing with Godzilla. The human parts are good, but I can agree with James that it got a bit tedious waiting for goji.

A shame, because the start and middle are paced nicely. It didn't feel like the wait for the 2nd landing was too long in repeated viewings. I don't think this is the "2014 killer", so feel free to disregard me.

Now we wait for Kong.

Watched it.

All I have to say is:

ZA DEE OHH EEHZ CODO NEMU IZ GAZZILLER

IGZACTRY

STATESU

>>14827700

>a movie made by a notoriously male-dominated culture is problematic

S h o c k i n g

Watched it. It's a militaristic right-wing mess about how great the JSDF is and how they should rearm Japan, that takes every chance it has to insult the US, and depicts women as either sociopaths (the minister and the scientist) or drooling idiots (the "American" lady who can't speak English) while all the problems are solved by tall clever handsome supercompetent men. It's misogynistic to the core and echoes all the problems in Japanese society, especially in the mindset of shut-in loser otaku like the director, Anno. One of the worst movies I've ever seen, period. It's not even a real kaiju movie, because 99% of the film is just Anno soapboxing his politics using bad actors as mouthpieces. There's barely any acting, because the people in the film just constantly spew out non-stop political rhetoric, which takes the place of any form of plot. What little monster action there is in the film is abyssmal- Godzilla's first form is hilariously out of place and despite being CG somehow manages to look like a bad puppet from a black and white era film. The CG in general is pathetic, and what little practical effects there are looks like a child playing with his toy trains. Godzilla himself starts off looking intimidating enough but falls victim to the bad CG when he starts moving faster and shooting lasers at the beginning of the second act. The film has no climax either, as the biggest confrontation is midway through the film, while the final confrontation is done by force-feeding the big lizard some sort of chemical through giant straws mounted on cement trucks. It's so cheap that it's just sad. I am very disappointed.

>>14828082
>mysoginist to the core
sold

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>>14828082
>It's a militaristic right-wing mess about how great the JSDF is and how they should rearm Japan, that takes every chance it has to insult the US, and depicts women as either sociopaths (the minister and the scientist) or drooling idiots (the "American" lady who can't speak English)
perfect

>>14828082
Cool, glad to know that fags hate it
sounds great

>>14828110
>>14828105
>>14828101
this is actually norman england's review from his private facebook page

>>14824774
>anguirus
>no special powers or abilities whatsoever

What a bunch of dicks; at least they made him fun, spinny, and deadly to hit from the rear

>>14828112
Who?

The movie is plummeting, it won't even be fresh and all because of stupid SJW reviewers.

Remember that this is the people that rate the marvel movies +90%

>>14828012
YYEAZZ

>>14828112
Literally who? Why should I give a rat's ass about some fucking nobody's opinion?

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>>14828123
Fuck RT.

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>>14828134
>>14828118
One of the pillars of the Godzilla community.

>Norman England is a life-long Godzilla fan and former reporter for Fangoria magazine who has spent months on “Godzilla” film sets and saw “Shin Godzilla” last month at a special industry screening. He notes a dramatic departure in the new film from the series’ traditional pacifistic stance.

In fact, all of the pillars, James Rolfe, Ed Godziszewski, Norman England, August Ragone, Jim Ballard, and JR Lipartito, don't like Shin Godzilla.

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yay so I got my ticket for the 8p at Artegon

if anybody wants to buy me a beer or something because I'm cool I'll be wearing my Zeon cap
if anybody wants to be crazy and stab me or something I'll be wearing a three piece suit

>>14828123
I know. I don't really care that much, but it's kinda pathetic.

>>14828150
it's the internet age nobody needs them anymore
that's why you just gave the Literally Who Roll Call

>>14828151
I'd buy you a beer if I could my man

>>14828150

Because they are plebs.

Also, James liked it.

>>14828134
He has his own Wikipedia page, in Japanese!

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%8E%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89

Stay jealous, loser.

>>14828150
>pillars of the godzilla community
What, like TK? Piss off.
>Fangoria
>spending time on a set

>James doesn't like Shin Godzilla
That wasn't the impression I got.

>>14823260
>everyone bitching about the politics and projecting muh-sogyknees onto it


I'm sold, this sounds like the most based Godzilla movie since Godzilla vs Biollante

>>14828118
>>14828134
Norman England (born April 24, 1959) is a film director, actor and film reporter based primarily in Japan. As a reporter he has extensively covered the Millennium Godzilla movies and the new wave of Japanese horror. To date he is the only non-Japanese to have worn the iconic Godzilla suit during production.[citation needed] He directed his first film The iDol in 2005. He emigrated to Japan in 1993 and soon established himself as a writer of the kaiju movie genre. In 1998, he spent a week on the set of George A. Romero's television commercial for the Capcom video game Resident Evil 2, where he met Anthony Ferranti who introduced him to the editors of Fangoria magazine.[citation needed] In 1999, England became the Japan correspondent for Fangoria, through which he became the first westerner to write about the new wave of Japanese horror movies in the mainstream press.[according to whom?] During this time he has also written for publications including Hobby Japan, Japanzine, Starlog, Flix, Japanese Giants, and The Japan Times.[citation needed]

As he is based in Japan, England has been able to spend much time on the sets of the films themselves[citation needed], often logging days beyond simple reporter visits[citation needed]. He spent more than 100 days on set of the Millennium Godzilla series of movies produced between 1999 and 2004[citation needed], including the 2001 movie Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack[citation needed] on which he visited the set almost continuously from April to October[citation needed] and became the only non-Japanese to have worn the Godzilla suit while the a movie was actively in production.[citation needed]

>>14828171
so?
sucking creator dick and shilling for them in return for access to shit is a thing that needs to die

>>14828159
Wow, the existence of a poorly sourced vacuous article has utterly destroyed me. How will I ever recover?

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>>14828082
>especially in the mindset of shut-in loser otaku like the director, Anno.
He sound salty af, like he wasn't allowed on set or something

>people nothing about the movies "pro japan handling themselves" politics

So? This is the same thing that happened in godzilla 1984, Biollante and king Ghidorah, and literally the only people who bitched then were complaint about issues that weren't even there

>>14828150
>pillars of a fanbase community
>ever being relevant
So do fanbases just up positions and titles now

>>14828196
Some other reviewer actually went and asked him to elaborate on the negative review he gave the film and he said

>“This is the first film in the series to go for the jugular in trying to elicit rah-rah support for the military and sympathy for the government,” England says, likening the film’s not-so-subtle nationalism to the blatant flag-waving found in Roland Emmerich’s 1996 sci-fi epic “Independence Day.” "Godzilla was originally imagined as a metaphor for the horrors of war and the devastation war brings to people."

>>14828213
>"Godzilla was originally imagined as a metaphor for the horrors of war and the devastation war brings to people."
if he's mad about that, that ship sailed all the way back in the 60s

>>14828213
I bet he thinks Brazil is a glorification of the state or some retard shit too

>>14828224
the happy dance on Planet X was really about war reperations

>>14828230
Godzilla flying was a metaphor for the bombing of Tokyo.

>>14828242
Godzilla talking was a metaphors for japan losing it's voice in the world in the post war times

>>14828213
Isn't Shin supposed to be a metaphor for the 2011 Fukushima Nuclear Disaster?

>>14828245
Biollante is a metaphor for the rape of Nanking

Hedorah is a metaphor for Nazi gas chambers.

>>14828247
That's the joke, he's that fucking stupid. They use imagery from 3/11 and even defeat Godzilla with the same water truck things they used to freeze the reactors after the accident and he STILL THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT ABE AND ARTICLE 9

>>14828247
that's been pretty obvious since the TEPCO jumpsuit briefing footage came out

>>14828260
That's actually the jumpsuit Noda (or was it Kan at the time?) put on for a press conference and got blasted for.

>>14828260
>>14828256
>>14828247
You are seriously conflating what would be seen as militaristic in other countries and what is militaristic in a Japanese context.

The point about direct military force achieving nothing or that they emphasize the importance of disaster relief don't actually matter... A lot of right wings don't hold the belief that the JSDF is powerful, but rather that they are underpowered. That's one of the main beliefs behind the movement to amend Article 9 - the JSDF as it is isn't strong enough.

The fact that the JSDF exists at all is a matter of controversy, and would be a bigger controversy than they are if they weren't useful for disaster relief. The disaster relief aspect is a major argument for the existence of the JSDF, so emphasizing that point like they do in this movie is not an anti- but rather, if anything, a pro-militaristic talking point.

Then you have the rousing speech before the climax... Where the main character basically tells the camera that the JSDF is the hope and future of Japan. That was an extreme statement that I have to say caught me a bit off guard.

In general, the JSDF is portrayed in a very positive light in this movie. Even though the direct attack fails, they are depicted as trying their best which counts for a lot in Japanese culture, and it is still them that does most of the work for, and put their lives on the line for, the final operation that actually succeeds.

Now the JSDF actually has recruitment posters with Shin Goji on them. The JSDF thinks this is a pro-military movie. You'd have to be pretty blind to Japanese politics if you think this wasn't a pro-military movie.

>>14828291
lolwat
I'm just talking about how that thing looked like that thing.

>>14828245
In Hedorah Godzilla blew away the hazy fog of liberalism that had clouded the spirit of Japan

In vs the Sea Monster he defeated a lobster

>>14828295
The prime minister is extremely indecisive about order the helicopters to open fire. This is because Japan has a peace clause in its constitution and takes weapon usage really seriously. In real life, this is a major political topic in Japan right now as the very right-wing Prime Minister Abe wants to revise the constitution to give Japan the most military autonomy it’s had since WWII.

The US military offers to step-in and help, and after some hesitation the Prime Minister agrees. This harkens to another major political hot topic in real-life Japan today: the right-wing government and its supporters feel that Japan is overly dependant on the US military and needs to get more military, political, and economic autonomy in order to be a truly legitimate international player.

>>14828291
>Now the JSDF actually has recruitment posters with Shin Goji on them.
Post it

>>14828315
yeah those sound badass I want one

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AGHHHH ITS STARTING IN MY THEATER

>>14828315
Sign me the fuck up

>>14828319
How many people are there?

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>>14828315

>>14828330
It's not packed, but there aren't a lot of seats still open

>>14828332
Bogus, it doesn't even have any jets

Kiryu should have one

IN THEATER SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE BOYS

>>14828504
>>14828519
How many people are/were there?

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>>14828082
Norman England, please go.

>>14828519
Same

>>14828531
Decent, not full. About half

>>14828531
Mine is packed but a small theater in big city

>>14828550
Holy shit the audio on this funi trailer is shit

>>14828586

It uses 50's and 60's themes, of course it sounds shitty.

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All these /m/en already in and hour ago and I have to kick rocks until 10 CST.

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So excited.

>>14823260
Hopefully me and my dad like it when we see it this Saturday. If I don't I will tell you what I thought was wrong with it.

Buying two tickets for tomorrow, friend is uncertain though, anyone in the NYC/Brooklyn area interested?

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Hell yes I need to see that movie again

Alright lads, remember to be courteous and use your spoilers

BACK LASERS

I also wonder why they didn't send the drones in with the bunker busters the stealth bombers used. That was the only thing that actually had an effect on Goji.

Overall I liked it. I don't think it'll work for a relaunch of monster fightan action, but it could spur a less serious movie.

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>yfw there are people in your theater legitimately pissed that they went to the cinema to see Godzilla only to find out it was sold out
A second screening was added just now to the largest auditorium in the theater, but point still stands.

Besides, sucks for all the people hyped up to see "Emily Blunt drunk off her ass in a $45 million Lifetime Original Movie" in te Large Screen format

>>14828777
Godzilla's first appereance was freaky as shit, there's a lot of body horror in that movie.

Were you getting Neon Genesis vibes from the movie, I was, especially with how the beams acted.

>>14828330
My theater was sold out.

I'm surprised at hearing theaters were sold out. Mine had it showing once in one of the minor rooms and there were still maybe a dozen people

>>14828797

LCL

Just got back from a showing, I snapped two pics of the ending and one of just Godzilla if anyone wants to see it.

>>14828818
quoi?

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Just got back from the NYC showing. I'd give it a 9/10

>Those blatant as fuck Eva drums uses like 5 times

4 theaters in my general area are sold out multiple nights. Expected though there is a huge older fanbase here.

It was fucking amazing.

so was I the only one that thought the engrish wasn't really that bad? the actual "american" actors were pretty bad but that's another story

also those last three shots

overall I liked it, tough to pick the pace back up after the night attack but thought they did pretty well

I enjoyed it.

>>14828797
there was definitely body horror all up in it, particularly with the first phase but especially with the tailbabbies at the end

As far as NGE vibes go, there were a lot in that scene, but the whole general feel of "oh god what the hell is it doing now" was pretty EVA

On an unrelated note, I loved that they were dropping fucking buildings on it

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I recover from Hurricane Matthew to find pic related. The divide in reactions between Western and Eastern audiences is interesting. And, as many have noted, two common criticisms concern the social/political commentary and amount of Godzilla. Smaller concerns seem to revolve around the finale and Ishihara 's character.

>>14828855
also maybe it was just me but did anyone else see teeth/a mouth structure in the tail at the end?

>>14828855
That was pretty metal. The train bombs were hilariously "It just works" too

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>>14828819
Here's Godzilla

>>14828861
It looked more like a nodule but there was a maquette used that appears to have a mouth on it.

>>14828861

There was a bunch of them I think that was the smaller, winged evolved Godzillas that were mentioned earlier in the film

taking a trip to new york this weekend to see it

i'm hype as fuck. i grew up loving the shit out of these movies but living in the middle of fucking nowhere. it's a stupid boyhood dream to see a toho godzilla in theaters.

>>14828880
You'll probably cream yourself when the untranslated logo plate fills the screen.

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>>14828876
I didn't take very clear photos since I was upfront but

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Just got back from seeing it

>mfw ALL THE BEAMS

Just came back from my theater's showing. I liked it.

Godzilla looked pretty plastic and the CGI was noticeable (you could compare it to cutscenes from last gen games), but it stops being an issue after a while. There were also some effects on Godzilla's skin whenever it did something drastic that I thought were nice - heat waves would distort the air when the spines would heat up, and the skin rippled like an Angel when he mutated. Godzilla also still stomps around like a guy in a suit (or a chunk of rubber on wires, in its 2nd form), which was neat.

I assumed that all the dialogue was going to put me off, but I it was actually pretty interesting, and the jargon was restricted to specific plans and loopholes. I thought the political story was enjoyable because I assumed it was about how political gridlock sucked ass. The top reviews make me sad.

>>14828777
I thought they ditched the bunker busters because they ripped open the holes that Godzilla used to fuck them up. Wouldn't make sense to use more missiles and make even more holes for lasers to shoot out of.

>>14828797
Yeah, but I might have only been thinking about it because they kept riffing on Decisive Battle for the planning scenes.

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>>14828899
The politics reminded me of the kill chain sequences from Eye in the Sky

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Good stuff. More after the credits and I pee. Humming along with the closing credit medley is fun.

>>14828899
regarding the bunker busters, it's already fucking shit up so they may as well do what damage they can.

They should have sent in an assault after the Lasering: Part One while it was hibernating for a fortnight

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QUESTION

What the fuck were those things on its tail at the end? Why did they look human?

>>14828925

>>14828876

>>14828925
mini-godzillas. They had mentioned it's attempt at propogating its species before

>>14828925
They were the evolved colonist forms

Remember the fin fell off and they figured out it'd be able to seed itself?

Who was your favorite Jap?

Poor Minster of Agriculture. He just wanted to eat his fucking noodles

>>14828949
I liked the Prime Minister.

Rest in fucking peace :(

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I enjoyed the movie a lot. The politics kept me engaged for the most part. Could've been trimmed a smidge but mostly worth the run-time. 8/10.

>>14828925
I figured it was trying to evolve/propagate before it died by turning into man. If something can kill Godzilla, it's clearly evolutionarily superior and should be copied, right? Scientist chick said it herself: man is a worse monster than Godzilla.

It's cliche to say sasuga Anno but for realz sasuga Anno.
It's a great dark comedy about beaurocracy, not so much pro JSDF as pro do something and stop screwing around.
I liked the way they mirrored Godzilla's evolution going from slips of paper to old 4:3 monitors to a mix of stuff.
The translation wasn't so great. They'd use Giant Life form but the subs would read Gojira. A bunch of on-screen text gets dropped.

Was the background people chatter in the ending the movie or people in the theater?

It was alright. It felt like you could've slapped any name on the kaiju and marketed it as its own movie, and it would've still been aight, but there wouldn't have been so much hype.

>>14828953

Yeah.

That bummed me out. That and the loss of the B-2 spirits and the family we see getting wiped out when Godzilla spazzes the fuck out and body slams the building

Did anyone else have the theater collectively "wtf" at the first form?

>>14828957

dorkly was this

>>14828504

Taken with a Sanderson's Universal Swing Front Camera? Would you be interested in parting with it?

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>>14828969
Like, goddamn, fucking look at it.

>>14828972
Lol no it's a shit cheap smart phone

>>14828981
GOOGLY EYES

>>14828981
>ただいま!

>>14828981
I loved it's first form although I didn't realize it was supposed to be godzilla

I really didn't get a comedy vibe from it.
There were certainly comedic moments, like "You have to do something" "What? Now?" bits, but overall I felt it was a political thriller/disaster movie that just knew when to loosen up from time to time.

>>14828982

No way that is a fucking Sanderson. I will trade you for a Galaxy Note 7, barely used, only exploded once.

>>14828915
But what if the bunker busters woke it up early? The train bombs woke Godzilla up on impact, and they weren't even as effective as the busters. If the US went on another bombing run, they'd catch some shit if it didn't work. I think the US was betting that the nuke would be the best way to end things, and they didn't want to undermine confidence by looking even more ineffective beforehand with another assault, even if Godzilla seemed wide open.

>>14828997
The nuke would have most likely accelerated its evolution.

>>14829007
I like to think that the nuke would have worked but the premise was so insulting and unacceptable that it couldn't be allowed to work

>>14828989
Same. Aside from the beginning when they keep constantly moving from meeting to meeting, it stayed fairly grounded.

Those initial meting were real funny, though.

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>>14828981

>>14829007

Should have deployed

Gipsy Danger

Just got back from the movie. It was excellent but the theater was full of autists who couldn't stop talking during the important parts.

>>14829023
My theater was like 20% hipsters, 60% neckbeards, functional and non functional (looking at you, guy with dyed blue hair, jake-from-adventure-time hat and trenchcoat), 15% asians and 5% me and mine

>>14829035

Were you at the Maple too?

>>14829042
No, I went to the Landmark in Baltimore.

Kamata-Kun is love

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>>14828949

>>14829035
>>14829042
>there's two guys with blue hair and a trenchcoat watching Godzilla tonight
I posit mass hallucination as a probable explanation.

>>14829023
>>14829035
My audience would not stop fucking clapping.

The first time lil-goji stood up one retard started a slow clap for some reason and half the audience went along with it. So basically anytime Godzilla did something new these faggots started clapping out of nowhere.

Oh and they clapped at the end too, of course.

Just got back. I want to hear more about the demographics in other anons' theaters. Mine was mostly older white people, a small handful of Asians, and the entire top row of seats was packed with black people.

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>>14829090
Was yours a grown man wearing this shit?

>>14824326
>few tanks
Just got back from seeing it and it was WAAAAY more than a few. They were all over both riverbanks.
Should have had more helicopters though. Oh well. And F-2s don't need to lase a target to drop a JDAM. Up your autism Anno. Would have been cooler to see them firing anti-ship missiles at Goji.

>>14823260
TRAIN BOMBS
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>>14829122
>this image actually makes perfect sense after watching the movie

Anyone else a little let down that they didn't drop a nuke on Goji?

Has this happened in any of the other movies?

Let's all have a moment of silence for crane team 1.

The true heroes of Japan.

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>>14824774
>Battra
>giant and horrible butterfly
I MEAN IT'S RIGHT THERE IN HIS NAME WHAT HE IS
>no mention of the Queen of the Monsters

>>14829139
>it's payback time
>roger, payback time

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Tone wise, it's sort of like '56 meets Independence Day filtered through Legend of the Galactic heroes. It makes fun of Japan's stodgy conservatism while admiring the strength and determination of its bureaucracy and the nation as a whole. There's A LOT of Tohoku/Fukushima callbacks, and the central theme of the movie is "how does 'the system' deal with a natural disaster that nobody has ever had to deal with before?"

The Chauvinistic Military Japan takes were super-overdone. The movie was almost cloyingly optimistic. Even the bumbling idiots, inept bureaucrats and gun-jumping action men are portrayed as fundamentally good people who just want what's best for everyone.

If you're an autismal fuck like me, you'll love this movie. It's probably my favorite Godzilla movie to be honest.

>>14828822
I wanted to go to the Empire 25, but it was sold out. I found great seats in Brooklyn though.

>>14828949
>Tired Nerd Biologist
>Hot Defense Minister Lady
>Hyped scientist
>The Prime Minister both of them

>>14829023
>>14829035
>>14829102
Mine had couples, late-20s nerds, parents with their kids, and one cute gay couple.

>>14829148
I'm disappointed because I wanted to see if he's absorb it or not.

>>14829152
;_;7

>>14829109

old white people, female slopes, arabs, nigras, young white scene types. some youtube cats as well.

>>14829152
>not drone flights 1-5

>>14829152
>>14829166
Crane team 2 had fucking balls of steel going in after that.

>>14829155
Kind of ironic considering they got their payment refunded in full two seconds later

>>14829176
;_;

>>14829109
I had a packed crowd of mostly 50-60yo something white dudes.

>>14829153
>I MEAN IT'S RIGHT THERE IN HIS NAME WHAT HE IS

yeah. he's a butterfly. a battra-fly.

>>14829109
Sounds about the same as my theater sans the black folks. Quite a few neckbeards as well.

There was a little talking, but they were mostly silent and there was no clapping either, so that was a plus.
They did chuckle a decent amount though. Lots of laughs at lines disparaging Americans, spastic science autists, and at soggy noodles.

I think the best part of the movie is the tension building up to the atomic breath. you just knew he was gonna fuck shit up.

>>14829109
a lot of red necks and neckbeards

to the single mother who looked at me when i said "OH FUCK" when Godzilla did his little laser show

I apologize

>>14829152
:'(

So why did Godzilla even go on the surface in the first place? It just seemed to waddle and later stomp around and fire lasers at whatever could damage it.

>>14829109
I'd say most of the people in the auditorium I was in were in their 20s-to-40s, save for a few older Godzilla fans, and a few kids. There were a couple of people in Godzilla shirts. A handful of people went up front to record the movie on their phones, but most people stayed in the back, and we filled up about half the room. People were silent, for the most part - there were a few chuckles near the start, or whenever the ministers would go
>'Murricans
but generally people were quiet.

I probably made the most noise in the room when Godzilla spewed gas, then flames, then atomic fire, or when he went from using back lasers to the one from his tail-mouth, but I tried to keep my voice down, and I'm sure the music drowned me out anyway.

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>>14829199
probably looking for some fresh non cold war era munchies

Some of those jokes were on-point.

>JSDF attack Godzilla
>Literally nothing works
>Three white guys leave the room
>"Godzilla is heading towards a neighborhood that hasn't been fully evacuated yet!"
>They get a sudden announcement that America unilaterally decided to bomb Godzilla
>A guy hands them a map of the American's planned targets in the neighborhood
>The sheet is almost entirely red.

>>14829155
>>14829152
RIP paybeck tiem ;_;

I'd seen a .webm of the scene before, but Godzilla amidst the burning city and orange sky gave me fucking goosebumps.

The most important question of the film
Who was he addressing?

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>>14828082
>how great the JSDF is
Um did you miss that whole part where they got their shit WRECKED by Goji and the end where AMERICA helped them by sending in waves of drones and cruise missiles to weaken the big guy ?

>>14829215
My whole audience literally burst out laughing at that point.

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>>14829215
>tfw I done that in a workplace safety vid-conference
>tfw my interjection was basically everyone should have guns
>tfw Texas branch was all for it

>>14829139
Got anymore shin goji artwork?

That's really nice.

>except for the blatant eva music all of the music is derivatives or exact tracks that showed up in '54
>suddenly the last song is for mechagodzilla
What did he mean by this?

Reminder that
>>14823260
>Movie summary: http://pastebin.com/pW30aaHq

Also contains explanations on some of the obscure Japanese shit that you guys probably didn't pick up so read that again after watching the film.

>>14829109
demos for me seemed normal nerd types

somebody in a DBZ shirt, some Godzilla shirt
nobody was loud or obnoxious that I heard
mostly chuckles at the appropriate parts

guy next to me was humming along with the closing medley too

>>14829239
the last song in the closing medley over the credits is apparently a mechaG song
the guy next to me thought it was heisei mechaG

>>14824346
The maser tanks exist because Godzilla has been a threat before
Same reason Japan made Mechagodzilla twice. There's a reason to divert resources into military

>>14829241
You're kind of an obnoxious person.

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>>14829234
Yeah, tons. I've been saving everything I could from threads on /m/ and /tv/ for the last couple of months. It varies wildly in quality though.

>>14829239
bitter old scientist leaves the first big clue to nuclear fission at Japan's feet, tells them "do what you will"

Japan might use it to build a robot

Really, could it be anything else?

>>14829251
You're kind of a shitposter

>>14829252
yeah everybody got real quiet when that last scene in the movie showed up

>>14824346
We'll call 'em MASERS

>>14829241
Like what? I think the only semi-obscure cultural reference I remember hearing was Susano'o killing the "hydra", which I doubt is outside most of /m/'s Jap-knowledge.

>>14829242
>the last song in the closing medley over the credits is apparently a mechaG song
I'm not speculating, it's a fact, but yeah I can't help but think it feels so out of place and that

>>14829255
is too off-the-rails (pun not intended), not that I think 70's-90's fans would care

>>14829239
There's music from Godzilla (1954), Battle in Outer Space, King Kong vs. Godzilla, Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster, Invasion of Astro-Monster, Terror of Mechagodzilla and Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II. Aside from Decisive Battle, "Famously..." from 3.33 is remixed as well.

>>14829270
Off the top of my head

-PM Kan on 3/11 wearing a jumpsuit

-TV Tokyo putting on anime while every other station puts on emergency broadcasts

-SEALDs

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Fucking frozen Godzilla still standing there loaded with mini Godzillas. American boomer waiting offshore to whack him with SLBMs

>>14829204
Didn't it turn out that Godzilla didn't actually need to eat radiation?

>>14829280
Astro Monster's "theme" was a song that accompanied the seafaring scientific expedition in '54

I stand behind my statement/belief that all of the non-EVA music was featured in '54 except for the Mechagodzilla II one

>>14829290
yeah

>>14829007
That was the part that I didn't get either Hey we created this giant-ass radiation monster, let's drop a nuke on it'. Also a B-83 is a gravity bomb, get your shit right Anno, subs use W88s.
Also did they need to show the name ofEVERY piece of military hardware in the movie...?

>>14829286
I liked how the anime was the short Anno's wife made for Animator Expo. It was cute.

>>14829298
I think that was a running gag after a certain point, like the increasingly complicated titles for the politicians. Wasn't too sure about it myself until they gave formal names for the TRAIN BOMBS

>>14829298
I think the logic, both here and in the 2014 Godzilla movie, is that even if Godzillas can absorb radiation the vast amount of both heat and pure concussive force is enough to destroy Godzilla sufficiently to the point where its regeneration can't save it.

>>14829291
The only themes from '54 were the first landing theme and the first credits theme. Everything else is from different Godzilla movies. "Yashiori Strategy" isn't even from a Godzilla movie. It's from Battle in Outer Space.

>>14829298

>Also did they need to show the name of EVERY piece of military hardware in the movie...?
One of the few things I really disliked about the movie. Sometimes it was funny like >>14829304 said, but we got another one every other minute. They cluttered the screen too much. Less would've been more in this case, in my opinion.

>>14829320
I think it would have worked better if they had replaced the on-screen text rather than run subs over it.
Same with the nico footage or the mostly-blank reports.

>>14829109
I sat next to a tranny with a shaved head, they knew their shit. My audience went dead silent at the ending shot of the babies and I could hear multiple people whispering "baby godzilla..."

>>14829286
>>14829299
There was also a shot of Nico Nico footage with Japanese text flooding the screen.

am I the only one whose subs were cut in half?

>>14829335
yeah that's your theater screwing it up

the subs condensed some stuff and was waaaaaaay inconsistent about Giant Lifeform vs Gojira but they fit on the screen

>>14829148
2014 opens with the military luring him to a nuke and it not working and just giving him a nice radiation snack. Not exactly the same as dropping one on him but it's the closest I can think of right now.

>>14829313
That's basically it, yeah. Akasaka even says it's the right move to make under the circumstances at the time - he was just concerned because Japan has to take the hit so that the other nations in the UN feel confident enough to provide aid afterwards.

I loved it. It did drag on a bit after LAZERS FUCKING EVERYWHERE but it was a solid movie overall.


>>14829152
F

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>>14829329
Did anyone else notice the Asuka profile pic in the shot of Japanese social media talking about Gojira?

>>14829320
And it was kind of inconsistent. Never once did it say 'Type 82 Command Vehicle' or when the tanks were retreating from the Tama River that some of them were Manuver Combat Vehicles (the 8-wheeled tanks). I did like how the minister titles for increasingly ridiculous though.

>>14829353
god no that scene was a wall of text and I was stuck figuring out the most practical way to translate such a massive wall of text

>>14828864
Really? I don't see him. Perhaps if you put a red circle around him.

>>14829363
They really fucked up in that scene by not just replacing the text.

>>14829353
I kept looking for NGE references (a keychain, NERV logo, something) and when all that scrolled by I figured there had to be one in there.

>>14829224
Mine too, and these were what a lot of people would call normalfags. A lot of the fun being poked at bureaucratic incompetence seemed pretty universal.

>>14829298
>Also did they need to show the name ofEVERY piece of military hardware in the movie...?
Yes. It pleased my /k/ boner.

>>14829369
Personally I hated the piss-subs and I think white is universally more acceptable

Yes I want to understand the movie, but no, I don't want the yellow fucking words to stand out so goddamn much

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Are enough of a /m/an to join crane team 1?

>>14823260
Going to see it this Saturday. Will tell you all the things I liked about it and things I didn't like about it.

>>14829152
Humanity's finest. ;_;7

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>There's a cute OL as the Defense Minister.
>She shows up and does her job.

>There's a cute biologist that one of the main characters calls for help.
>She shows up and does her job.

>There's a smoking hot fashionable American envoy with perfect skin and makeup who has multiple one-on-one close personal conversations with a main character
>She spends the whole movie doing her job and they never flirt, kiss, or fuck.

YEAH BABY FUCK OBLIGATORY MOVIE ROMANCES.

>>14829385
[see pic]

>>14829388
There had to be at least 100 people on that team. Holy shit!

>>14829395
well come on it clashed with the white introductory subs

>>14829385
White couldn't work because Toho had hard subs in the movie. To make an international version without hard subs would take more work and time so yellow subs was the obvious solution.

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Gotta say I loved the fact that it was subbed. The audience in my area seemed to be more attentive because of it. I'll take any sort of interest like this as a positive and hope that it will bring more kaiju to American cinemas.

>>14829426
The coolant-blood leaking out was cool as fuck. Hell, the entire first form was eerie.

>>14829353
Jimpluff pointed that one out a while back, so I caught it as well.

>>14829426
that form was kawaii

>>14829223
That's not a problem with the JSDF.

That's a problem with the Japan not having a true military.

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>>14829426
>>14829471

It really was. NYC theater in Times Square was packed. Lots of cheers, laughs and clapping. Movie was fantastic.

Daily reminder that if Japan was instead by China and Russia, Goji would have been toased.

S400, man, S400.

>>14829491
Fucking ESL niggers, I swear.

>>14829506
I smiled when this happened

>>14829510
Same anon. I recorded most of the movie, I just need to edit it and upload it. Might make a torrent though.

>>14829290
>>14829296
Wait, what? I thought they confirmed he did? Wasn't that what the whole origami thing was about? (basically showing how nuclear energy and heat absorbs into his body and expands out to create matter?)

>>14829520
he got to the point where he could make his of nuclear fission as long as he has water and oxygen

like those buses that run on water

>>14828150
>In fact, all of the pillars, James Rolfe, Ed Godziszewski, Norman England, August Ragone, Jim Ballard, and JR Lipartito, don't like Shin Godzilla.
proof it with links, pal!

>>14829518
BASED

>>14829395
I did really like the way this was handled.

>>14829520
The origami was basically his genetic code which told them that he needs coolant to regulate himself. That's why he went back into the ocean after evolving the first time. Knowing he needed coolant the govt. saught to exploit this by supplying their own coolant which would shut off his own cooling system and prevent him from doing anything.

>>14828797
Gunbuster and Ideon.

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>>14829353
Yep

>>14829534
Actually sorry I got that wrong the origami let them know what components to the coolant they needed

>>14829534
>>14829537
Okay, weird. Seemed like... a kind of convoluted way to document that.

Also in case anybody didn't notice, it's kind of obvious but THE PROFESSOR'S SPIRIT IS INSIDE GODZILLA

>>14828150
James said he liked it. How did you get the impression otherwise?

>>14829543
5deep4me

>>14829543
>spoiler
What

>>14829353
As an Asukafag waifufag, it made me happy. Couldn't really see when it was scrolling, though.

>>14829545
Maybe the same reason he keeps posting that twitter comment out of context without the rest of it.

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>>14829557
>after Godzilla boots down the first time, they're talking about the professor
>that's when we first learn about his background
>literal next shot is Godzilla's frozen tail and the "jaw" on it clicking open

https://a.pomf.cat/sendlf.mov

>>14829579
>https://a.pomf.cat/sendlf.mov
ITS TIME

>>14828988
That was the second form actually, we don't see the first form other than it's tail

>>14829298
Anno is something of a military otaku. I liked it. Isn't like the Rebuild Eva pilots are named after Japanese aircraft carriers/destroyers.

>>14829601
>military otaku
wouldn't a better term be "gear head"?

>>14829616
No. Gear heads are guys who work on cars, and love vintage cars n hot rods, and the sort.

So I'm guessing it was the US that killed Dr. Maki right? This movie gets more and more interesting as I remember more of it.

>>14829631
No, he fused himself with Godzilla to give it a will, making it attack Tokyo as a test for Japan.

>>14829601
>>14829616
>>14829623
A Gun-head?

>>14824222
My theater actually started just openly laughing during the beginning segments where the government was just going between rooms and changing titles of council meetings and not accomplishing anything during the entire first landfall.

TO PUT OUR TECHNOLOGY

>>14829148
The Soviets tried to nuke Godzilla in 1985, but the USA was able to intercept and destroy the nuke in the upper atmosphere before it was a direct hit. Unfortunately the residual radiation then allowed Godzilla to revive after it was rendered comatose by the Super X weapon.

>>14824222
Japan's dumbfuck bureaucracy and red tape has nothing to do with the constitution.

>>14829638
>Alright Brooklyn
>let's rock

>>14829649
Except the constitution forbids them from having a military force.

>>14829654
Proof:
ARTICLE 9. (1) Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.
(2) In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.

REARMING WHEN?

WHEN?

>>14829636
Jesus that makes sense. There are clues that make me wonder if he is literally connected the monster, like the cast mentioning him before cutting to Godzilla's tail cracking.

>>14829654
And what does that do with dumbfuck bureaucracy and red tape?

>>14829663
So then how did they make all those masers?

>>14829664
The shoes left in the boat is a Japanese thing, it's indicative of suicide. He knew where Godzilla was and threw himself into the sea right at him.

Godzilla was dormant all this time but goes active as soon as Maki dies, and attacks Tokyo just as Maki said he would. It's pretty obvious.

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>>14829664
Starting to remind me of Evangelion Unit souls here.

As expected of the master.

>>14829109
mostly white 20-30 somethings with some old people, only a couple fat people (myself included) and i think one hispanic family, one pacific islander group (that was like 10 people large) and one asian group

everyone was very quiet and about 90% stayed for a post-credits thing that didn't happen

it was nice listening to those songs though

>>14829670
>hands unfold from chest just like unit 13

>same purple thin laser as god soldiers and rebuild unit 01

>kayoco is asuka

>>14829664
I'm still not really clear about how he obtained his initial research on Godzilla, like that origami blueprint he left behind.

Did he create Godzilla, or did he just discover, study, and somehow aim Godzilla at Japan?

Also since Japan was able to save itself from being destroyed by Godzilla while also not allowing themselves to be nuked again, does that mean that they've passed Maki's test or whatever?

>>14829677
>Also since Japan was able to save itself from being destroyed by Godzilla while also not allowing themselves to be nuked again, does that mean that they've passed Maki's test or whatever?
Yes, more or less. At least for the time being.

>>14829353
Yep, definitely noticed. Aside from the breath scene and the ending, Decisive Battle showing up was the thing that surprised me the most.

and it kept showing up

>>14829674
Don't forget the laser arrays quite obviously a nod to Gunbuster and Ideon.

>>14829518
>I recorded most of the movie
so it happened, right?
But what is missing? Will you provide also a direct download?

>>14829665
It means no military where the military can take over the bureaucrat in case of emergency, such as in case of emergency.
>>14829666
Only after Godzilla invades.

>>14829688
>such as in case of land invasion*

>>14829601

Every Eva character is named after a WW2 battleship. The only exception is Ikari, which can be written as "anchor"