What is the most /k/ /m/ ?

It's said that /k/ and /m/ don't mix. If that's the case then it's probably the Patlabor series for how cynical it is regarding mecha at times.

>>14814850
It's the 179646022 time we had this thread.

The answer always was and always will be Mellowlink.

Strike Witches.

8th MS Team tbqh

>>14814850
/k/ had a poll and we can only tolerate the ball
old story, you guys should at least try to keep up

>>14814850
Dougram

http://www.strawpoll.me/10990463/r

>>14814856
Seconded, but Ohta in the TV series is so shit I avoid recommending Patlabor to anyone. The OVAs and movies are also boring as fuck.

>>14814850
VOTOMS and Nobunagun come to mind, maybe Full Metal Panic.

>>14815707
You're not only a fucking moron but you're a total pleb at the same time.

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>>14814850
Ghost in the Shell.

>>14815858
>external extractor

>>14815858
>Its 2100+
>They are still using .45
Don't tell me there are still moist nuggets too

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>>14815875
>>14815879
It just works.
Firearms have hit a plateau, you'll be seeing 1911's and 5.56 AR derivatives 50 years from now.

>>14815886
Looks like a Belgium Waffle Maker 2000

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>>14814850
/m/ with no actual mechas
Probably Yukikaze

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>>14814850
Votoms/Mellowlink. Any other answer is wrong.

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Macross

>>14815707
>disliking Ohta and his police killing qouta

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>>14815707
>pic related
You are such a faggot you aren't worth fighting

>>14815714
>Full Metal Panic.
Anon, FMP goes full super robot once the lambda drivers come into play.

>>14816000
FMP still has some relatively grounded mecha designs, and Fumoffu exists.

>>14815879
GITS is only late 2020's.

Also the .45ACP is one hell of a caliber for a sidearm or submachine gun. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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Front Mission has a militaristic atmosphere.

Gasaraki, weirdly enough

>>14814850

Just how many times did we have this thread already? fuck off and go find out yourself. Your free time isn't worth as much as you think.

>>14816039
It's been fixed plenty of times, but fudds gonna fudd.

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>>14817212
and yet you took yours to say this, stay classy

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>>14814850
If its video games, i'll have go with Armored Core 1-3. Since the implication on how the mechas work in it is kinda practical.

On anime/manga? Maybe Patlabor, since the mechas is still somewhat the same or smaller than tanks scale-to-scale (except for quads or more). And its justify the implication of mecha as multipurpose light tanks rather than one-mech-army.

Appleseed is also really cool, but most of the mechas is no more than exos clocking at 2-3 meters, and only few colossal ones.

>>14815944
Are you seriously trying to talk shit about Dougram

>>14814850
Mellowlink Arity.

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>>14815679
>Strawpoll
>An unofficial ballot conducted as a test of opinion

Meanwhile from a thread that was made before you even knew what 4chan was.

>>14818103
>too hard to reload
nigga just stick a bigger mag on it

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>>14818103
>Uses a fucking DOUK post as evidence
Argument invalid.

>>14815707
Ota is fucking great, what are you talking about?

>>14816007
Yes, but the most faggoted /k/eks will hate it simply because it steps into super robot territory

>>14814850
Why are we so desperate for /k/ to like us? I bet /k/ never thinks about us.

>>14818390
/k/ loves fumoffu.

>>14818390

>super robots are stupid!


>nooo, you don't get it, the anime girls ARE the guns!

>>14818415
Only time /m/ ever is brought up on /k/ is when some retard makes a thread about giant fightan robuts ever being a thing in the real world.

Then they are told to come here.

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You niggers forgot FLAG

This trumps Votoms, Dougram and pretty much everything else in terms of realism

>>14819739
yeah, FLAG was pretty neat.
The faux war documentary style was cool.

>>14819739
Votoms and Dougram are objectively better shows though. FLAG is a relatively weak show once you get past the admittedly cool war reporter's camera gimmick.

>>14819787
He never said anything about the show's quality, just that in terms of realism, it is superior.

>>14816000
>Anon, FMP goes full super robot once the lambda drivers come into play.
In the flat desert, it was a battle of tank units. That would be one of the most difficult situations for the weapon called Arm Slave.

>No matter how much High Technology crystal an AS had, it could never attain the armor and fire power of a tank. Not being able to repel tank shells, the standard level assault rifle could also not destroy the tank upfront.
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>[Frontage Projection Area] - It was said that the area in front was what could be seen the most.
>Compared to the tank that crawled on the ground, a vertical walking AS that wiggles could be easily discovered, and easily shot. The greatest strength of an AS was its maneuverability, taking advantage of a complicated terrain to get close. It would be difficult in a desert.
>In an exchange of gunfire with a tank, it had no chance of winning.
>That was why the ally AS units made use of the dug trenches surrounding the ally base, codename “Alamo Fortress”, to accept the challenge and move from one place to another. Using freely the necessary number of anti tank missile, they moved from one trench to another using smoke screens, radar jamming, and infra red jamming.
>Though a simple tactic, there was no other way to do it.
Besides, Super Robot is really stretching it. The Belial, the machine which utilised the Lambda driver to its maximum capacity, could achieve flight and force-fields at best.

>>14819894
>That would be one of the most difficult situations for the weapon called Arm Slave.
Don't a bunch of Tanks get fucking rekt by the Arbalest towards the beginning of Second raid? The show flip-flops around with AS units and how they compare to conventional weapons (3rd gens usually murderize everything except other 3rd gens and lambda driver equipped units) and while its a good watch it shouldn't be taken as gospel for realistic mecha. Patlabor is generally far more grounded and consistent when it comes to comparing mecha to conventional weaponry.

Also the Lambda driver's potential limits are those of the machine's pilot, In TSR Souske pulls off an impossible feat by successfully using a super-robot style energy punch to destroy Gate's Codarl without touching the M9D Falke that was between them.

>>14818973
I said the most faggoted for a reason, as in the people who scream HURR MECHS WILL NEVER BE FEASIBLE WEAPONS HURR every fucking chance they get.

>>14821184

While I do think mechs aren't feasible with current technology, and there would be no place for them under current military doctrine, /k/'s hatred of futurism seems to be short sighted.

No one saw the role of Gun Powder, Gatling guns, airplanes, tanks, Iron clads, etc in combat either. Hell it is starting to look like 3D printed drones are going to change combat in the near future, despite the limited role they play now.

To say that a new weapon can't come along, and can't change warfare since all combat roles are already defined seems an awfully ignorant view of history.

>>14821371
>Pavlovsky Particle When

Then K will be sorry, and jeli of my zaku

>>14819894

>No matter how much High Technology crystal an AS had, it could never attain the armor and fire power of a tank. Not being able to repel tank shells, the standard level assault rifle could also not destroy the tank upfront.

Except for that one time the Arbalest rekt a bunch of tanks in the second raid.

Even the Gernsbacks make tanks look like fucking jokes, not even gonna mention the fact they are really good in the SRW games. And no, that is not just balancing. Shit like Godannar and Dai-Guard is weak because they are weak in the Anime.

And not even gonna mention how ARX-8 could likely take down a SupCom Loyalist with its Lambda Driver.

>>14821415

Really looking forward to TALOS getting deployed and /k/ chimping out over it.

>>14821371
/k/ wanks off to drones already but i am honestly not even sure if many of them know what the fuck they're talking about sometimes, like how someone kept saying the Merkava was a shit tank in the recent 100 years of tanks thread because all the armor was at the front (What is a tank for $1000 Alex), and how somebody in the heavy object thread (both this and the tank thread were /m/ threads i might add) said that the F-35 was an F-16 with stealth added, both of which are some of the most retarded statements from anons I've personally fucking seen on 4chan (aside from one dipshit who seriously suggested we un-ban clawshrimpy) and obviously come from people who have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

>>14821464
No shit, they're just gear queers and enlisted fags.

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>>14821479
Indeed, they'd probably praise this fucking thing.

>>14821464
Well to be fair in the most abstract sense the 35 is 16 with stealth.

But that also glosses over the part where 35 is pretty much a flying computer with an all seeing eye on the underside, that networks with others of its kind and then some.

>>14821546
One problem with your logic; when is anyone abstract on 4chan.

>>14821371
>No one saw the role of Gun Powder, Gatling guns, airplanes, tanks, Iron clads, etc in combat either.
Stop it, this is painful.
Painfully wrong.

>>14821488
>>14821464
This is why ESL fags should fucking kill themselves, holy shit.
I was in that thread where the guy was talking about the F-35, and it was obvious to anyone who was a native speaker of english it was a general comparison in terms of the JSF's place the USAF's HiLo mix.
The second image is a fucking JOKE. You know, HUMOR.

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>>14818415
I'm from /k/ and we do think about /m/, because you cunts wont stop harassing us asking "when will we have mechas".
/m/ is /k/'s lil stalker

>>14821899
That's /v/ retard.

>>14821899
>suggesting any "when will we have mecha" fag is truly from /m/
Any true /m/an knows not to bother thinking about that, much less being a realfag.

>>14821905
I always though it was /pol/ actually.

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>>14821926
It's definitely /v/. Those threads always have some shitty tacticool mecha that could only appeal to a 15 year old.

>>14821822
Tell that too peoples that lives before 19th century anon.
Surely you'll be laughted out of your ass for being a pants-on-head lunatics who have an overly retarded imagination.
Jeeze almost all of those tech will be an ouright magical to them.

>>14822055
Literally every nation except Argentina immediately rushed to acquire smokeless powder rifles after they were invented, gatling guns were immediately superseded by the recoil operated machine gun, which did gain widespread traction amongst the nations that could afford them, which is how all the players in WW1 had them in mass amounts, airplanes were immediately recognized as useful in the military, which is why among the first customers for the Wrights aircraft was the US Army, tanks weren't widespread in WW1 only because they were introduced late in the war, iron clads were fucking useless but even then the British Navy made acquiring a large number of them a priority.

>>14821905
>>14821926
>>14821940
Its cute when you try denying.

>>14822208
obsessed.

>>14822208
If you've actually been on /m/ for more than a month you'd know just about everyone here acknowledges that mechs are impossible to have in real life and just like them because they're cool as hell.

>>14822400
Except for the ESL fag.

>>14821488
>not saving this image as "Full armor Unicorn.jpg"

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Ace Combat hands down

>>14822400
To such a degree that the sight of mecha series which attempt realism make /m/ sperg intensely.

>>14815941
The novel definitely. The anime sort of went the direction of stylized retardation with its characters, but they did do quite well with the comm chatter

>>14823139
>03 Delphinus only second behind Mobius and 13
Ace Combat 3 remake when

>>14822110
>Literally every nation except Argentina immediately rushed to acquire smokeless powder.

That was SMOKELESS powder, that come out after everyones except half of Africans use guns as their battle standards, the gun powder and the gun itself has been in hiatus for 100 years before.

>Airplanes were immediately recognized as useful in the military

Not after centuries of experiments and death of hundreds insane scientist and retards that believe they can actually fly.
Wrights are only smart enought to bought engines with it.

>Tanks weren't widespread in WW1 only because they were introduced late in the war.

And because its so fucked up everyones think it cause more harm to its crew than enemies. Jeeze the crews can't even see each other due to engine's steams and needs to comunicate with each other by bashing pipes/crewdrivers/whatever together to create a morse code, shit's noisy man.

>>14822462
well I'm doing that now

>>14821899
Proof? I've seen countless /k/ on /m/ threads, and am told it's retaliation for /m/ on /k/, but I've never seen any evidence of that.

>>14821822
>Gun Powder
Originaly invented by the Chinese supposedly, who used it for fireworks. It wasn't weaponized until later by the west.

>Gatling guns
Didn't get much use in wars, though it was used in suppressing the Indians. Did later make way for real automatic fire.

>airplanes
They weren't originally used in combat, and were used for other roles like scouting, until pilot took their guns up there and started shooting at each other, and this lead to them to start putting guns on planes.

>Iron Clads
When the technology was discovered, not much was done with it on a wide scale until the battle between the Virginia and the monitor proved their viability.

Tanks is stretching it, but I'll still count it since that was a new technology created to counter trench warfare.

I chose every single one of these examples for a reason.

Jin-Roh.

>>14823764
>Not much was done with it.

A shit ton was done with it before hand. Ironclads were first used in the Crimean War as a way to close in to shore fortifications. The concept was proven and was becoming very fashionable in the military powers of the time (The US at this time was a backwater militarily and especially navally).

>>14814864
Not sure what the rest of these bitches are babbling about, because thats /thread right there

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>>14823764
>Originaly invented by the Chinese supposedly, who used it for fireworks. It wasn't weaponized until later by the west
Now I'm 100% sure you're just talking out of your ass. The Yuan Dynasty had the first cannons.

>>14815707
You and your opinions are shit.

>>14823788
Jin-Roh isn't even /m/ at all, rewatch it.

>>14827121
Not the anon you replied to but the point still stands new technology changes warfare and sticking with the rigid idea that we have everything we need is fucking stupid. The fucking British empire thought the same about their steam boats guns but they never would have imagined WMDs would be possible. Same with /m/. war has dramatically changed in the past 100 years who is to say it won't keep changing and that new technology will be the cause of it.

>>14822462
Okay that actually made me laugh

>>14828494
I believe power armor is /m/.

>>14828533
>Not the anon you replied to but the point still stands new technology changes warfare and sticking with the rigid idea that we have everything we need is fucking stupid.

Thank you for saying smartly what I was too stupid to convey. The idea that
>We already have combat all mapped out, and there is no way a new technology can change things since there is no combat role they could play, since we already mapped out all the combat roles
is just asinine.

>>14830440
But it wasn't a power armor.

>>14828533
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Set_Free

>British Empire never imagined WMDs would be possible.

>>14830451
The problem is that you're making a mistake in confusing what is essentially a new kind of truck for something radical and game changing.

>We can use legs now instead of treads/wheels/rotor/hovercraft/etc
>Okay, well, does it move faster than anything else? Does it allow more armament or armour or cargo to be carried? Does it take us less of a logistical footprint? Does it move across terrain better?
>... WE HAVE LEGS NOW!

Unless walking machines have major advantages over existing forms of locomotion, they won't be adopted by the military outside of niche areas. It would have to be a real game changer and I cannot see how it would change things radically by just being a tank/jeep/helicopter/lorry that walks.

>>14831721
I highly doubt that in his book he talks about inter continentalal ballistic missiles caring multiple nuclear war heads that can hit any target on the planet within hours of launch, that can exurt enough force on the ground that they can go to the moon.

>>14831785
That's talking about a delivery system, not nuclear bombs.

>>14831790
That was what I was trying to covey in my first post sorry if I wasn't clear enough.