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Why do fanboys hate Turn A so much? Not the show, the robot.

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Why do fanboys hate Turn A so much? Not the show, the robot.
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>>14777647
because the design is not edgy or cool/intimidating.
Let the teenagers do theyr thing, man.
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I wish the Turn A used the Gundam Hammer more than one fight it's such a cool weapon.
Also it has the best looking shield in the series.
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>>14777654
>theyr
>Not using the correct word "their"
>Not even spelling "they're" right
Yes friend, those teenagers.
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>>14777668
Nitpicknig typos and grammars does nothing to explain how or why Turn A is not a good design.
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>>14777647
Because they have no taste? They are gendum fanboys, after all.

>>14777666
It used them in like, 2-3, and the Kapool used it once too.

But yes, Satan, it still needed to show up more.
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>>14777668
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>>14777647
Can't say much for the western fans but Japan never really got over the "not my Gundumb" phase. Japan's stubborn about really stupid things that way.
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>>14777669
I like how sleek it looks, curviness and surface details including the V-fin stache. Having a different take on what a gundam is isn't inherently bad. People just immediately flinch because "NOT MUH OYW PERFECT RX-78" which to be fair is ingrained in viewers minds as the trademark for the whole franchise.

With that said calling that anon out for not caring how he types on an already infuriatingly shitposted board doesn't make me feel bad.
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i love the turn a but its a shame we don't have a side story for its tech and dev
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>>14777685
I think this post is the long and short of it, really.

It's a neat design, but if it had anything other than that RX-78 style paintscheme it would not at all be recognizable as a design from the Gundam franchise. Even Gundam fuck Barbados from IBO looks more identifiably "Gundam" than Turn A.

I like it, maybe minus the 'stache, but the 'stache is also kind of an in-joke within the anime itself, so Turn A gets points for being self-aware. Overall it's a pretty cool design even if not at all what's expected from the franchise.

Being different's not really a reason to dislike it. That juxtaposition of rounded parts with some hard edges is really nice.
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>>14777678
thats why it was given the honor of being the 100th mg right? when they made a big deal and had a vote over it.
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>>14777654
>only refined and mature palates like mine can appreciate the genius of the Turn A

you're right, it's not edgy or cool/intimidating. that doesn't change the fact that it looks like a piece of shit
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>>14777757
The redesigns are shit though.
>Just give it a generic Gundam face and turn the mustache into sideburns
fuck outta here with this shit
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>>14777666
I know what you mean Double Satanic Trips. That is why I posed my MG Turn A with the Hammer.
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>>14777792
what the fuck are you talking about? it also doesnt change that the japs voted for turn a.
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>>14777647
It's the moustache.
I've heard people say that it looks "goofy".
Good thing most of them probably didn't notice the literal cockpit.
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>>14777774
You always say it's shit but you never say why.
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>>14777804
I mean this one. I think it was from BFT, I'm not sure.
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>>14777813
oh sorry. ive never seen this thing before. my bad.
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Its true g lucy had a MB system?
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>>14777818
In a deleted scene.
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>>14777813
Cockpit still looks good.
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>>14777813
Everything they changed on that looks like dogshit.
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you guys saying the gentle/m/an with the best moustache is ugly
filthy internet dwellers
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>>14777868
im pretty sure most of us have said we like the design.
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>>14777806
We noticed, we just approved of it. Unlike the goofy mustache.
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>>14777647


I hate the show, but not the mechs. Whats up?
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The Turn A is the only Gundam that actually looks futuristic.
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>>14777647
I love everything but the cockpit
I don't understand the glass canopy
Keep in mind I haven't seen Turn A
Maybe that explains it
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>>14777647
>Why do fanboys hate Turn A so much? Not the show, the robot.

Somehow a Japanese cultural icon designed by an American is considered a lèse-majesté crime but stupid anime fans. Doubly so when the man who designed the Turn A is the world's finest industrial designer.
People hating the Turn A because of moustache was always an excuse. Stupid Japs don't like the Turn A because it was not designed by a Japanese. Simple as that. And western fans don't like the Turn A because they're more stupid than their Japanese counterparts.
The Turn A is one if not the most sleek looking elegant robot in the entire Gundam franchise. It's sleekness buthurts Gundam-fags sensibilities as to what should be and what shouldn't be considered a Gundam. As I said, they're stupid.
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>>14777647

I can't get over the mustache. It looks dumb. The rest of the design is fine, even cool in a lot of respects, but whoever thought have those two pointy whiskers sprouting from its face was doping on the wrong substances.
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>>14779172
>Gundam designs
>sleek
Gundam is Okawara territory. Of course 'sleekness' is out of place in a series about bulbous and bulk.
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because the Turn-A is ugly


Zeta Gundam is much better looking than the turn a

a lot better looking
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No V Fin, and the moustache.
Gundam purists also hated on the Exia of all things for not having face vents, just to put the autism into perspective.
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>>14779229
Clearly bandai should never listen to us
Ever
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>>14779228

Let's be fair here: Perfection is always extremely difficult to match.
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>>14777757
The Turn-A consistently ranks as the least popular Gundam in Japan.
>muh 100th MG
Keep saying that as if that means anything. In fact it proves the point because that MG was released in 2007 and was the first MG kit of any Turn-A suit. Meaning the Turn-A was a Gundam so unpopular it took almost ten years before getting a MG, which is unheard of for any other series.
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>>14779195
>Gundam is Okawara territory. Of course 'sleekness' is out of place in a series about bulbous and bulk.

Nope, it's not out of place when the story takes place in the far far future. A future where civilization was effectively ended by the Turn A centuries, even millenia before the events of the story take place.
Please no mention of G-recko for 2 fucking reasons : it came more than 10 years after Turn A and second it retconned Turn A. So don't use G-Recko as an excuse to shoot down Turn A because logically it won't fly.
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/m/ has a lot of people with really boring mecha design taste who only like blandly "cool" designs that often just mesh together if they make a 3x3

Taste like this guy's from the OP of a thread earlier is quite uncommon
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>>14779536

> Turn-A's MG was actually released 7 years after the show ended in August 2007
> No MG AGE-3 anything 4 years after it finished airing
> No MG AGE-FX anything 4 years after it finished airing
> No MG G-Self a year and a half after it finished airing
> No MG of any G-Reco units a year and a half after it finished airing
> Wing didn't get a MG until 2004, 9 years after the line started and 8 years after Wing finished airing
> F91 didn't get a MG until 11 years after the line started, well after F91 was released
> Victory didn't get any MG until 2009, 14 years after the line started and 19 years after Victory finished airing
> X didn't get a MG until 2014, 19 years after the line started and 18 years after X finished airing

It's not actually as unprecedented as you're claiming and Turn-A beat a few suits and shows to the line, including X and Victory.
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>>14779619
How does any of that change the fact that Meads designs simply don't mesh with or match Katoki and Okawara and putting them all together in Gundam just creates a sour taste.
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>>14779660
>How does any of that change the fact that Meads designs simply don't mesh with or match Katoki and Okawara and putting them all together in Gundam just creates a sour taste.

Because you bumbling idiot, technology is always advancing. You think that Gundams designed in UC 100 are going to look like Gundams designed thousands of years later ? Of course not. Some abstract element of commonality may be present, but the esthetics (as will the interface, and other things as well) will surely change. Look at happened for cars. And that was in less than a century. So only idiots can cling to the idea that somehow the esthetics of Gundam is fixed once and for all just because Yas designed it that way for the first series in 1979. And if you are honest you will see that even the Zeta Gundam and ZZ are already esthetically different from the Gundam in 0079. So talk about a fucking false criticism.
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>>14777757
The vote was "GUESS THE #100" not "PICK THE #100"

People thinking these Bandai polls are polls to pick, when they're just polls to guess. You aren't picking anything when you vote.
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The Turn A is actually one of my favorite lead Gundam designs. It stands out among its brethren and looks highly advanced and kind of alien, which fits within the context of the show.

Plus they kind of go all-out with the "Gundams are armored samurai" thing with the mustache and topknot.
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>>14779660
The MG 1/100 was personally designed by Katoki because katoki has a boner for mead's designs. The only reason there is a MG Turn X was because Katoki wanted it done and Bandai let him.
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I think in part it is cause (especially a good portion of gunpla builders) seem to prefer overly busy designs. Very angular, stupid amount of spike wings sticking out the back and 4 weapons all at once with see through parts. The sort who take a more is more approach

Basically everything the Turn A is not
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I slashed my thumb whilst denubbing the Moonlight Butterfly panels on the MG.
Waiting for it to fully heal before any more assembly.
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Autists can't handle change and things that are different from what they're used to.
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>>14779628
So your only argument is there are maybe one or two Gundams less popular than the Turn-A?
Wow the Japs must really love it, then. Sure made a fool out of me.

>lol this movie sure flopped hard
>actually I can name other movies that did worse, so it did perfectly well
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>>14777647
It would be a great design if it wasnt for the fucking mustache. I'm sorry but that thing just ruins it
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>>14779853

No, I never said it was popular, only that your argument it got one later than any other unit and that that's unprecedented is factually incorrect. It's definitely unpopular, but saying it's the most unpopular because it took ages to get a MG is flat out wrong. It very well may be the most unpopular, but the MG isn't proof of that.
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>>14779868
A conventional Gundam v-fin just wouldn't go wit the rest of the design.
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>>14779154
It's so the pilot can see through it.
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>>14779877
Someone only brought up the MG point because someone else claimed the Turn-A's popularity is what got it the number 100 MG spot, which clearly isn't the case.
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>>14779154

Well for a start it's extremely unlikely to be glass. Glass is not the only transparent material, and some of the hardest materials are translucent, like diamond. Diamond is fragile to the right forces, but everything is. Being transparent doesn't indicate fragility, just that light from the visible spectrum can pass through it. The cockpit canopy could block ultra Violet light or x-ray for all we know. Acting like it's bad because it's see through is just silly.

The canopy also has two layers visible when it closes by the way. A clear colorless one, and a clear, yellow colored one. With the yellow one on top, and the two ensuring it's airtight or something as well as additional protection physically most likely.
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>>14780011

It's unpopularity also didn't get it the spot, or act as proof it was unpopular like you're claiming.
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>>14780019
I never claimed the MG proved it was unpopular, just that the MG didn't prove it was popular.
I have absolutely no idea why you're trying so hard to convince me you're retarded.

The bottom line is that the Turn-A isn't popular in Japan and the guy claiming that isn't true because it was the 100th MG is wrong.

Do you agree? Yes? Then stop trying so hard to be a nitpicking argumentative autist.
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>>14780137

> make a claim (it didn't get a MG till later than any other lead unit)
> have it pointed out its not true
> why are you being do argumentative
> retard

You're wrong. You might not care, you might think the correction is minor, but you're still wrong. Whether you care or not is up to you, but trying to get aggressive about it doesn't make you look any better.
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>>14780153
I guess I'll just say it again:
>The bottom line is that the Turn-A isn't popular in Japan and the guy claiming that isn't true because it was the 100th MG is wrong.

>Do you agree? Yes? Then stop trying so hard to be a nitpicking argumentative autist.
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>>14780153
So three other Gundams everyone hates took longer to get MGs?
Turn-A is really popular then, you sure showed him.
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>>14780157

I stated it was probably unpopular several posts ago in >>14779877 in case you forgot.
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>>14780164

See, >>14779877 and learn to read a thread before hopping to hit reply because you're so excited to call someone names.
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>>14780153
>>14779628
F91 got a 1/100 in 1991: http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/1/100_Gundam_F91_Model_Series
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>>14780189
I didn't call anyone anything you stupid fat ugly cunt. Do you know how reading works?
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>>14780181
So you agree? Yes? Then stop trying so hard to be a nickpicking argumentative autist.

Or maybe I need to say it again?
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>>14780181
you're proving his point by agreeing with him. that's what he's saying to you. jesus christ.
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>>14780199

Nobody was discussing HGs or gunpla as a whole, only MGs. And that ain't a MG. Turn-A, Turn-A, the SUMO and the Kapool got HGs around the time of the show too if I recall.

>>14780206

> I didn't call you names
> So let me just call you names

You're right, you just made a post that was filled with sarcasm because you thought I was trying to say something I clearly stated I'm a following post was not my intention. I'll try to take my own advice in future, though I doubt you will.

>>14780212

Repeat yourself as much as you like, my posts agreeing with you aren't going anywhere.

>>14780216

I do agree it's unpopular. I never said otherwise, only corrected him on the MG release schedule.
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>>14780240
The Turn-A isn't popular in Japan and the guy claiming that isn't true because it was the 100th MG is wrong. Do you agree?
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>>14780267

Since you apparently need further clarification: yes.
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>>14780291
Then stop trying so hard to be a nickpicking argumentative autist.
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>>14780240
You have a severe case of being That Guy
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>>14780293

Perhaps you should stop being so defensive anon.
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>>14777647
It looks fucking weird. Look at this, doesn't something about it seem off to you?
Incidentally, I don't mind the mustache at all.
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>>14780828
>doesn't something about it seem off to you?
No.
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>>14780832
Oh, okay.

I think it's the chest piece. It doesn't look like it matches the rest
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>>14780842
I feel like it's the feet. I like how it looks more like a human, but those feet bother me. It's a shame too because I like the rest of the legs.
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>>14777647
I love Turn A, but the Tun X and the SUMO are far superior. I also don't dig the parade colors on Turn A. Why would they go for such a different looking gundam design, but still stick with the overused gundam colors?
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>people not liking the mustache

I like it. My only complaint is that I thin it is too long, but I have the same complain with most V-fins.
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>>14779229
>Gundam purists also hated on the Exia of all things for not having face vents

No, people hate on the Exia because it is shit.

>>14779620
>Mazinger
>Zaku II
>Gunbuster
>Metal Gear

Half of those designs are far from "uncommon".
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>>14780832
>>14780828
Other than the 'stache, the only thing that really bugs me is the waist/"stomach" area.

It's too damn tiny. This is supposed to be a war machine, not a cute girl.

Though it does get points for having a clear point of rotation visible, I never understood how RX-78 and similar Gundam designs were able to rotate their upper halves around so easily. I just worry that in terms of balance/structural support, that joint may be too small.

That said, it's an anime and doesn't have to rely on physics.
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>>14777647
Because Syd Mead is a better artist that what /m/ will ever be
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>>14781417
I don't really mean /m/ as /m/, i mean shitty otaku artists.

The closest I can come up with is shit like Gundam SEED, where the base MS is always the same boring looking palette swap with a different backpack and v-fin.

I'm not going to say the mustache is good design, despite absolutely loving it, but the rest of the Turn A is an absolute design masterpiece. the use of linework and color creates a perfect balance within the Turn A reminiscent of De Stijl artwork
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>>14781417
The Turn-A is such a boring design I really don't have much to say about it, the only thing I can say about the Turn-A is that it is a more 70s looking mecha than Okawara's RX-78 was.

Look at this pic, the fucking thing has bell bottoms.
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>>14777647

For me, it's the head and chest. They just look dull.

If the feet weren't boring squares, the legs would be a straight up 10/10
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>>14777647
They see the mustache and freak out even though that's the best part.
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>>14780312
Perhaps you should fuck my tight virgin ass like the fucking faggot you are.
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>>14780842
It does match the rest but in a very weird way. The sharp angle where the top part of the chest meets the bottom part match the shoulders.
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>>14781755
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0l4rrx7S6t8
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Turn-A parts i like

Legs - Sexy 100/10

Arms - Pretty cool

Cockpit - Eh. I know the reason why it's there, but they could have just made it be inside the dick area with a 360 panoramic screen instead of outside.

Chest - It's shit

Head - I very much like the Hoplite helmet. Too bad the mustache ruins it. Oh well, good with the bad.
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>>14781412
Turn A's largely hollow anyway, so it's not like the larger chest area is creating that much extra weight.

While it's a weirdass concept, eventually I liked it and the I Field Beam Drive stuff.
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>>14777654
But looking cool is kind of the point when you're designing mecha. Nobody wants to watch or buy an ugly mecha with a moustache, which is why everyone watches Turn A for the characters.
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>>14782843
>Nobody wants to watch or buy an ugly mecha with a mustache
You mean excluding all of the people who already have?
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>>14781412
>the only thing that really bugs me is the waist/"stomach" area.It's too damn tiny. This is supposed to be a war machine, not a cute girl

So you also hate the IBO Gundam ? Because it has not only a wasp thin waist, it also sports high heels. Talk about a tranny Gundam.
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>>14783064
Yeah, Barbatos' "stomach" area is really weird to me.

It just looks like a fucking giant crossbeam supporting the torso, I can't figure out how that thing rotates AT ALL.

Unless it's all done in the upper part of the waist/leg area. Even then, it's pretty fucking stupid to have a clear point where the mech can be sawn right through be clearly visible and unprotected.

I mostly like IBO's designs overall, but its main gundam is a little silly.
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>>14781236

Brand recognition/tradition.
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>>14779172
Such projection
Nobody cares if a washed up Syd Meed designed it. Turn A looks like ass, end of story.
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>>14779680
>>14779172
You have some anger issues. Get laid or something, it'll take the edge off.
Also
>Syd Mead
>world's best industrial designer
I'm laughin' mate.
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I have no memory of Turn A ever using the chest cannons.
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>>14784340

They were only used once in the anime, by Joseph, when he pilots the recaptured Turn-A and tries to attack Gym using it. It's in the second to last episode, and the cannons fire off a lot of little beams in a large arc in front of the unit. Gym hides the Turn-X under the Turn-X's backpack, sacrificing it to survive the shot, before capturing Joseph with the Turn-X's ability to absorb energy and is about to kill him when Harry, Loran and a few others intervene.

Gym may have had his men install the cannons given they don't show up before that point, the chest silo is just a load of hot swap bays and Joseph thanks Gym for making the Turn-A easier to use just before he fires them.
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>>14779686
This.
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>>14781236
The SUMO was actually supposed to be the Turn A Gundam but Tomino didn't want yo use it for that. High grade sumo or master grade sumo when bandai? It's my favorite suit too.
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>>14777647

Initially I thought it was stupid looking and hated it.

Over the years (like over a decade), it grew on me. Maybe my tastes have evolved. I noticed that I went from liking the huge, chunky, overbuilt designs like Ex-S to liking the cleaner, simpler, more humanoid shapes like the Mk II. In the ∀ Gundam's case, it manages to get the sleek humanoid shape, but uses a design language that is very different from what we've seen before. Juxtaposed to the setting of the show, the ∀ almost looks alien.
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>>14785372
Just get the 1/100.
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Because it's shit. The G-Self is stronger and has a better design.
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>>14779154
>I don't understand the glass canopy
They made the cockpit a cock.
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>>14783064
>So you also hate the IBO Gundam ?
You don't? I'd say look at it, but I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
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>>14777647
Hell if I know, dude
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>>14777647
dont see it first episode

doesnt do shit for the longest time

and it looks dumber as fuck. its lazily drawn to begin with then from his head to his dick is stupid.
im 20 episodes in (couldnt make it 8 the first time i tried) it better get better.
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>>14786625

> Turn-A
> Lazily drawn

Stop watching. If you're not enjoying it now you won't enjoy the rest. It's not going to magically transform at some point in to a different show. Further watching will just frustrate you.
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>>14786062
Ironically enough, at the same time it's the most human out of any of the suits in Turn A. Borjanons/Zakus and Kapools still retain those monoeyes and villainous face masks, WaDs can extend on their spines, WaDoms look straight out of War of the Worlds, and you'd be forgiven if you couldn't pick out the cockpit at first on FLATs, Bandits, and Mahiroos. The only one that comes close are SUMOs, but their camera eyes only appear sporadically.
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>>14777647
Mustache
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ターンAはガンダムじゃねえだろどう考えても
アンテナがヒゲておかしすぎるだろ
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>>14779185
You think Mead wanted a V fin? No.
Sunrise demanded V fin. Thus, mustache.
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>weaboos mad that their childrens show toy designers dont have a sublime sense of aesthetics like Mead
Hes up there with HR Giger, hes simply in a higher league. It cant be helped
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I like the mustache.
>>14790014
Well, there's no need to get a big dick over it.
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>>14790018
with Giger isn't big dick-like structures a requirement?
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>>14790023
Touche. Regardless, I don't really see any problem with the Turn A's design, bar from lack of a backpack maybe.
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