How can Sunrise make Build Fighters good again? Remember they

>>14705399
By letting it rest for a while.

Give the staff freedom to not get buttfucked by businessmen again.

Take a full season to actually plan the episodes and animate them ahead of time.

More budget into sick mech fights.

Instead of making it immediately 3 on 3 either drop the 3 on 3 or dial it down to 2v2.

Instead of having only two single elimination tournaments back to back, do what YuGiOh or Medabots did and have the first part of the series be a sort of ranking system free for all where people have to fight for points and so you can still lose as long as you earn a certain number of points to qualify for the real tournament. In this part people will ally up to test their synergy or just fight 1v1.

In the real deal tournament the teams are finalized after we and the characters have got to know each other better.

Also, dial down the fucking Naruto effects where everyone can destroy galaxies with their shit.

Age up some people. BF1 was cool because it had adults and children all having fun together. Try was babbys and 2 high school teams. I want to see 40 year old gunota, college students, teenagers, and 12 year olds all playing together in the next one.

No more harem bullshit. Seriously Try is Tenchi Muyo levels of harem faggotry and it is disgusting, and most unforgivable of all it's fucking boring.

I mean really Try did everything wrong.

make gyanko thick again

>>14705418

Oh yeah and can we please have a protagonist who cares about Gundam again? I think one of the most insulting parts of Try was that its star not only knew nothing about gunpla, but he didn't even know what Gundam was, despite living in a completely Gundam-centric universe where gunpla battles are bigger than the World Cup. And then he continued to not care at all about Gundam, and then at the very end, literally the episode before the last episode he says "yeah lol I still don't really get what this Gundam stuff is about but it's pretty cool lol" I mean what the fuck.

>>14705424
I think this is the most important thing they can do.

After that galactic level attack bullshit, there's no way to dial it back

>>14705445

This. Try increased the power creep so much that the franchise already needs a reboot. Or just pull a Macross II and call Try uncanon.

Maybe a good idea would be to just for one time just not do a tournament focused show.
Make Gyanko the MC and have her be just fed up about losing every single time and not being on par with her more successful brother. Maybe she goes on a trip and comes across different characters from both seasons.

File: gunpla demon.png (338KB, 720x720px) Image search: [Google]

338KB, 720x720px

Have Fumina stop using a pint-sized gundam and actually be in it to win it again instead of in it to support Sekai because her body is burning hot it demands she breed with him!

By bringing in a director who can reign in Kuroda.

Kuroda is a writer who if the the director doesn't keep him on a tight leash will start writing bad romcom elements and love triangles into everything. Watada was too inexperienced and too poor of a director to do that.

Really just get a different director. Almost anyone would be better than Watada.

>>14705474

>She chose an SD over a Blue Destiny

How can people deny Fumina as worst girl?

>>14705483
People think with their dicks.

>>14705399
More Try porn without Sekai.

Instead of toys they now use gunpla power armor

Have Gyanko get actually fit. Then maybe her fans will finally off themselves and stop shitting up threads.

I mean Sazaki fags in the first season could get annoying but at least they had some funny art and edits and were actually grateful for the added screentime he got added in. All Gyanko fags do is post vastly exaggerated fat art of her and then whine about how she isn't more relevant or the MC. And then when she is made more relevant again they whine that the character art is a teeny bit skinnier than before.

>>14705450
I can't understand how no one on the staff pointed out how terrible that would be for the series.
How do you follow up the MCs doing an attack that can be seen outside the galaxy?

>>14705513

Try was already full retard by the midpoint when Sekai shot a phoenix that destroyed the moon.

>>14705399
Act like TRY never happened and make a new show.

I watched the original and I'm halfway through TRY with my girlfriend and it's just godawful. It literally became shonen powerlevel shit.

>>14705530
The moon in that battle was just a piece of background art the phoenix collided with, not a fully rendered 1/144 moon. The table they were using wasn't big enough for that.

>>14705399
Graduate the TRY cast like they did the original cast, and feature their children duking it out amongst each other, and more in-line with the original series (for practical purposes, if it was only focused on one child per TRY pairing, that cuts out about half the focus group to closer to GBF's).

Recycle more SEED MS, including a Freedom variant for the next MC's Gunpla, as well as throwing in a few new Gunpla such as some AoZ kitbashes that are not pure AoZ but AoZ+Customs.

Alternatively, the 3rd season would be an extremely loose but condensed retelling of SEED in GBF format, with the MC being a Gunpla savant starting off with a Freedom, his love interest and rival a dramatically angsty female with a Destiny, and his long-time friend who fights on both sides being the female's older brother with a Justice Gunpla.

>>14705571
There are no Try pairings though.

Impossible since /m/ practically put Season 1 on a pedastal and anything else would be considered inferior to it

>>14705399
put up a disclaimer at the beginning of every episode declaring that Build Fighters is an anime designed to sell toys and is pretty much aimed at kids instead of at adults

>>14705580
The staff can force them then.

Or just go with condensed parodies of regular Gundam series retold in the light-hearted GBF style.

>>14705417
http://www.gundam.info/topic/16370

Try TV is a product driven project while Island War is the other way around. Staff were doing what they want. Nobody's complaining except manchild.

>>14705533
This. They just need to refocus on what made the original GBF good; modelling, character chemistry, fun fights that don't revolve around DBZ lightshows.

Bring back the love, basically. You could tell that GBF was written to be a love letter to Gundam and Try was a shitty attempt to cash in on it.

>>14705673
>every single scene Ral and Sei spent autisming over gundam
The scene with Ral's new late-war depiction of an F type Zaku exemplifies what made GBF great.

It's real easy just put Fumina back in a GM.

Simple. stop Haremizing everything. Same can be applied to all anime industry.

More Fumina doujins.

>>14705682
>The scene with Ral's new late-war depiction of an F type Zaku exemplifies what made GBF great.
Wait, what scene?

>>14705726
I think he's making a gouf joke.

Make the protagonist a girl.

>>14705824
Sekai is voiced by a girl and doesn´t show any libido, it´s basically the same

>>14705399
Get the old staff back. But give it a few years. Like 3. Do not do rushed productions.

>>14705726
The one where he shows off a heavily weathered Zaku?

Did you even watch the show? That was even one of the major points of Reiji's character development.

Butt Fuckers was never good.

>>14705399
Build Fighters rwas never good in the first place.

>>14705399
>How can Sunrise make Build Fighters good again?Remember they can't pretend like Try didn't happen.

Make a new series called The adventures of Sekai and his harem court. Forget about Gunpla fighting.

Make the main character a sexy teenage girl who people make fun of for being too into gunpla battle and have her trying to /ss/ with all the cute boys like Sazaki Mk.4 and others.

>>14705399
Anything /m/ hates will do.

>>14705399
Do shit on par with the Sei/Reiji's fights with Fellini or Meijin and we're golden

File: GM TACTICOOL.gif (396KB, 350x197px) Image search: [Google]

396KB, 350x197px

>>14705399
>How can Sunrise make Build Fighters good again?
They can't. Sekai is pure gunpla shounen shit: extreme plot armor, dumb magic gimmicks and harem sub-plot... It's beyond average.

If they want to "fix" it, need to go back to basic: 1 x 1 duels with tacticool shit and interesting sub-plots around (arian).

Unfortunately, they don't want to do it again for a simple reason: it needs HARD WORK.

>>14705984
DIdn't the Scopedog sell like shit?
I can understand why they don't want to do anything like that again, this is a toy commercial after all.

>>14705399
Never mind that, they should just release the OVA for vanilla BF before they forget about it entirely.

>>14705984
>If they want to "fix" it, need to go back to basic: 1 x 1 duels with tacticool shit
>BF season 1
>Tacticool shit.

For like one episode. And tacticool fags bitched all through the threads that week that the k-9 jobbed and meijin won with an asspull.

BF was never about being "tacticool".

>>14706077

BF had tactics though.
It should have shown someone what Try was about when the Ez-SR team, demonstrating perfect teamwork, strategy, preparation, and research, lost to literal shounen manga power ups.

File: 12412544.jpg (58KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 1280x720px

>>14705998
>Didn't the Scopedog sell like shit?
Don't know the numbers, man.

>>14705998
>I can understand why they don't want to do anything like that again...
As I said, it's "hard" to create interesting fights where the characters uses more brain than muscles. S1E18 was an excellent example how tactics can be great in a fight.

However, writers don't want it anymore: they prefer to follow the easy path: to win, just need to take out some magic shit from the protags' ass. This is extremely linear, predictable and lazy.

Same logic about sub-plots: in S1, we got reiji, the president from arian, aila with her background and nills nigger trying to discover all the truth... In S2, all this was replaced by dumb harem and explandable characters with no development.

>>14706082
forced dramatic "tactics"
pretty much BS when it comes to people who can think properly

>>14706095

No, BF actually had pretty good tactics. Aila's clear funnels were a tactic and more clever than ANYTHING in Try. Fellini kicking up snow on his bike to see the funnels was another demonstration of tactics. BF wasn't high art or even particularly smart, but it had clever moments. They actually tried.

I understand you're some jaded fuck who can't enjoy anything unless he's shitting on it, but you're not clever either with your "hurrr BF was never good" bullshit. Take your pretentious faggotry and go.

File: goku mech.jpg (118KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

118KB, 1280x720px

>>14706077
>For like one episode. And tacticool fags bitched all through the threads that week that the k-9 jobbed and meijin won with an asspull.
>BF was never about being "tacticool".
And what is all about? BF been "Gunpla DBZ"? LOL... It's even worse, anon. Use of shounen elements are not the best answer for BF.

About the Renato's episode, of course Meijin had to win. Only a dumb expected a lost. What I'm talking about is the fight development: even the race in S1E14 was more original than many Try fights... Look all the potential lost in S2.

>>14706109
Just for the record, >>14706095 isn't me >>14706077.

BF definitely had its moments. I was specifically reffering to "tacticool" and people from the original threads who complained that their needed to be more military like ms and battles like that one. They shat up threads for a while back during BF.

>>14706122
>their needed to be more military like ms and battles like that on
I just want more non-gundam gunpla.
By the end of Try the only one not using a gundam was Gyanko but that was already a given.

>>14706085
>Nils Nigger

Come on

File: 1390701922592.png (535KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

535KB, 1280x720px

>>14705913

>/m/ turns into another whining circlejerk hugbox because of "Stop making things that we don't like!"

nothankyou.jpg

>>14706109

Can you really call clear funnels a "tactic" when it is more of an exploit on how the Gunpla Battle System interprets clear parts and Team Nemesis use it to their advantage since almost everyone (except Allan) couldn't figure it out until Fellini and Sei managed to no-sell it?

>>14705824
>>14706126

>Expect the Japanese will actually do these kind of things (which would almost guarantee it'd not sell to the intended audience)

LaughingExecutives.gif

>>14706140
The japanese are zeon though.

File: latest-3.png (255KB, 960x757px) Image search: [Google]

255KB, 960x757px

>>14706126
The same. I loved G-bomber and was sad he swapped to a gundam leopard on a diet.

>>14705399
Oh well that's easy, bring back the people who did GBF and fire everyone involved in Try.

>>14706140
The problem with most people is they are watching this gunpla anime as if it works like a normal gundam anime which based on mechanical specs and technology.

In GBF/GBFT/GBFA/GBFAR it has been said many times "Gunpla is freedom", which also means there is no listed and fixed rules in that world. Players are not limited to using imagination to scratch build or mod build a gunpla, but they are also allowed to pull BS out of player's ass to setup gunplas' profile. Plavsky particles reacts to builder's and player's wishes and do magic on the stage.
This is why 2nd Meijin can exploit the flaws in the system to make things dangerous and not interesting anymore.

>>14706140
>Can you really call clear funnels a "tactic" when it is more of an exploit on how the Gunpla Battle System interprets clear parts and Team Nemesis use it to their advantage since almost everyone (except Allan) couldn't figure it out until Fellini and Sei managed to no-sell it?
People figured it out during the battle royal. It's just that no one could do anything about it until Fellini had a one on one against her.

Now that /m/ has shitposted about try so much it's reminded me how ehhh Try actually was.

Season 1 ACTUALLY played into the THEY ARE JUST MODELS that come to life.
You had people who used Anti Beam like paint on shields and shit and like reflective armor painting on the Gundams and it was so good.
They acknowledged that Mech's performed better because they were more delicately built and carefully painted/detailed.

Try was just "LOL THIS GUY MADE BURNING SO IT'S THE BEST EVER + 1 x INFINITY"

And that bothered me. there was literally nothing to counter Seiki's Burning and it literally just punched thru everything.

>>14705399

Every episode should have been like the Fellini vs Sei or Meijin vs Renato twins. No asspull plavsky hacks. Cleary defined rules and the nature of the game like particle limits, material endurance, weight etc so there would actually be trade offs and tatics.

File: 1456959800579.jpg (69KB, 594x411px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 594x411px

>>14706230
I bothered me that no one even considered to attack Sekai's waist until like 20 episodes in. People figured out the absorb shield immediately.

>>14705399
Rinko

Really, from a in-universe perspective, Nils was the one who ruined gunpla battle forever thanks to his new system.

>>14706249
same mindset with funnel = superior

As >>14705445 >>14705450 said, there's no way to make a good series set after Try.
Maybe if they make a side story that takes place before Try or something

>takes place before Try or something
Read GBFAR
The old system is worst than the new one in Try.

Maybe the reason they are making OVAs for both seasons mean they plan to end the series for good. One can only hope.

>>14706270
Cant read moonrunes. Does it allow for even more bullshit than the Try one?

>>14706291
Transforms field objects into particles, and use them to take down opponents.
Convert and absorb field objects into particles to boost weapon power level

con't >>14706297
and allow full assimulate

>>14706297
Yeah, but on the other hand, the new lets you make your gunpla invincible by screaming and MUH WILLPOWER

File: 47850279_p2.jpg (330KB, 565x784px) Image search: [Google]

330KB, 565x784px

>>14706192

>Fire Obari (which is at least a constant in both GBF shows)

Get out

>>14706196

>This is why 2nd Meijin can exploit the flaws in the system to make things dangerous and not interesting anymore.

Should I assume this is what happened near the end of the first AMEIJIN manga with the Cathedral Gundam? I wished the translations for the AMEIJIN manga would have continued

>>14706246

>No asspull plavsky hacks

That was still present in S1 (especially towards the end), so I don't know how can it be avoided

>>14705399

REMOVE SEKAI

Anyway, this thing is simply devolving into a bigger shippingfest than Fairy Tail, better let the vultures have it.

BF Try probably would have been good if Fumina was the main character and Sekai never existed

>>14706732
Fumina a shit, though. She never should've abandoned her actually good gunpla for that ugly pile of shit.

>>14706824
>her actually good gunpla
>Got shit on literally every battle on screen
>Couldn't keep up with her teammates gunpla, meaning it would struggle later in the tournament.
>It's just a GM with more guns and armor.

Yeah, good.

Go back to the Beginning G setting.

>>14706886

But Beginning G was the worst shit of all because in the end he went >my dad works at Bandai and then 3d printed a custom clear part that let him slay oceans of enemies simultaneously.

>>14706894
He still built and painted the final gunpla, just because the extra parts came from his dad taking advantage of his position doesn't change that Beginning 30 was still a product of Haru's legitimate skill as a gunpla builder.

It's not like that rich fuck with the Hi-Nu who only had an idea but then told someone else to build it for him.

>>14706903

It's actually worse because anyone could have built that rich fuck's gunpla but no one but him could go >my dad works at Bandai.

>>14706886
Yeah, lets go back to G. Where barely anyone uses an actual custom and I-Fields and beam bits rape everything and all you need to do to win is have your dad and randomly declared rival print you out a custom runner of parts that you hastily apply gundam marker and pining pen to.

>>14706894
This. Beginning 30 was the worst shit, just shoehorned in at the end as if he'd become some amazing Meister, when all he did was get some special snowflake parts with barely-detailed magic powers to insta-win.

Except for that mess showing up, I'd agree - they had people piloting a sim based on the kit, using the POD cockpits that are actually used in some arcades for Gundam games. That was pretty sweet.

>>14705399
Fumina needs to lay off the cock addiction

File: Perfect-beginning-d-gundam.jpg (611KB, 1143x1600px) Image search: [Google]

611KB, 1143x1600px

>>14706911

Beginning 30 is undoubtedly the shittiest out of all the Beginning Gundams. Shame we haven't seen any of the others animated.

>>14706922
It's also a shame that the HG Beginning D kit is a POS.

>>14706906
Irrelevant, he still had to build and paint it and Builders rewards build quality over anything else.

It was his dad's test of skill moreso than anything because those parts were transparent and required painting over.

File: GPB-X80JFA-2.jpg (547KB, 1090x1500px) Image search: [Google]

547KB, 1090x1500px

>>14706922
Yeah they were actually kitbashed not just given straight up custom upgrade parts. Really wish those spin-offs were translated.

>>14705399
Blow Sekai the fuck off to some other godforsaken plane of existence.

>>14706935
>Irrelevant, he still had to build and paint it and Builders rewards build quality over anything else.

He just did touchups with a small brush and gunpla marker paint extracted into a little dish. He didn't even need to thin the paint.

>It was his dad's test of skill moreso than anything because those parts were transparent and required painting over.

No different than regular painting. Paint adheres to Bandai's clear plastics just as well as it adheres to their opaque plastics.

File: GBP-X80J-S3_Avalanche_Beginning_J_Gundam.jpg (524KB, 1587x2062px) Image search: [Google]

524KB, 1587x2062px

>>14706941

Gunpla Love designs are the best over the top customs that barely ever use custom parts.

I am about to start build fighters try and perhaps should not have read thus thread right now.

But I've already seen some of the MS and I'm sad that the somewhat charmingly vanilla yellow GM gets traded up for a spiky pointy Gundam with glowing\transluscent parts. Though honestly I'm just not getting into the mecha trend of the past few years of glowing glossy orbs/light strips/transluscent shapes set all over the body. Sometimes I can dig it like the G-self from Reconguista but most times I'm disappointed like with Try Burning Gundam or left with mixed feelings like the mechafrom valverave.

>>14707131

Build Fighters Try is like the Go-Bots to Build Fighters' Transformers.

>>14707215
That's fine. We will be seeing more Go-Bots this Christmas and next summer, and probably the year after as well.
Bandai has no intention of stop making more Go-Bots, heh.

File: 2016-09-06_2213.png (284KB, 1308x937px) Image search: [Google]

284KB, 1308x937px

Ranking

>>14705399

1v1.

They don't even have to drop teams, just make them rotate or sub in and out depending on matchups.

>>14707215

>Not using The Movie (S1) and Bayformers (Try) as comparison

>>14707958

I think the other problem is that tournaments that have only single elimination don't really allow "fun things" since people would practically know what is going to happen, especially with teams of three since they could make it similar to GBWC but with team-based flavors during round robins

- Actual 3 vs 3
- Best of 3 1 vs 1 matches
- Team Sports
- Relay Race
- Time-based Assault (your time to complete the objective is compared to other teams, teams at 50 percentile or better get points)

>>14707994

Yeah, double elimination or a points system is inherently more interesting because there's more outcomes and variety, and you don't splat out potentially good characters the first time they lose

People like Gyanko and Simon should not have spent 95% of GBFT as talking heads in the spectator stands

>>14708005
I wanted to see mr. I bought my gunpla with a new custom ms that he made himself in the OVA.

>>14706854
It looked better, though. Can't deny that.

>>14708281
I had less glowy bits too.

>>14705600
>Staff were doing what they want.
They really have low standards.

>>14705600
>Staff were doing what they want
Then clearly the problem with Try was just having a really inept staff.

>>14707994
>>14708005
Team battles would actually have worked if they were rare. As in, you have three known competitors forced to work together against three other known competitors. They already have characterization and buildup and everyone wonders how exactly they'll play off against each other when they're thrown into a fight.

And it should be a big setpiece, an actual meaningful melee rather than something rushed because the word "TRY" is in the title.

>>14705600
>staff wanted to remake the final episode of the original because try was such shit

>>14708778
And it came out shit.

>>14705399
"GUNDAM BUILD FIGHTERS: OLYMPIAD"

Put not just money but TIME into developing a show to push gundam and gunpla worldwide concurrently with the Tokyo Olympics.

The show is split into mini arcs of five or six episodes, with each arc showing of and building up a different countries team through national selection tournaments(probably at least Japan, America, China, which ever part of europe buys the most gunpla)

Then a last mega arc with the actual main competitions.

The events are: One-on-One Duel, Three-on-Three Team Battle, Battle Royal, Race, Base Assault/Defense.

Each team gets one medal per win. The team with the most overal medals at the end gets crowned champions.

Each team includes not more than one country stereotype gunpla (ie cowboy for america, samurai for japan etc).

I would like to hear some negative reactions from the cast abour gundam.
Like someone shitting on the second half of 08th MS Team or something similar.

>>14710162

For that to happen we'd have to have a cast that actually cares about Gundam.

No one in Try seems to care about Gundam. In fact the best you can get in Try is characters who care about gunpla battle, and those characters all lose to Sekai because he's just God's gift to the world.

>>14710181
>Fumina never called Gyanko a zeek
>Gyanko never sperged about the superiority of Zeon
Wasted potential

>>14706941
That one is fucking hideous in centaur mode though

Two things:

A) Main character focused on building gunpla. S1 had tons of shots of Sei at a desk, building gunpla. As cool as the fights can be, its the building part viewers can do, and inspires buying gunpla.

B) Dont use a G gundam, or really any limited to a single attack mode. Burning was stuck with punching, and had to be given insane tricks just to deal with basic models that could just shoot at range. The fights ended up silly and monotonous. S1 had saber duels, beam spam, *and* punching, so they had a lot of variation between fights.


They could always place it between the two series, or go earlier and give us Ral in his prime

>>14710007
Fuck that. We need more stereotypes.
I just want an Afrogundam with a Beam Shiv and Beam Gat.

>>14710283

Burning could fucking generate flame swords and phoenixes.

Honestly what they should have done was NOT have Build Burning be some SSS++++++++++++ tier gunpla that literally just falls into Sekai's hands. He should have been a fan of Gundam to start with and have made a custom Shining so he actually fucking made something and is actually a fan and Bandai can whore out the Shining mold some more.

Then Build Burning should have been his midseason upgrade after getting good and learning actual building techniques from Fumina and Yuuma.

File: 47464688_p0.jpg (143KB, 640x800px) Image search: [Google]

143KB, 640x800px

>>14710295

>Another Gunshota protangonist, especially if we are going to have a three man team

Sekai actually should be an "outsider" of sorts at the beginning to occasionally act as a foil before he is gradually brought into the fandom and discover how "Gunpla is freedom" due to influences from the team, his rivals, and what not And as a running joke he can't stand G Gundam at the start when Fumina/Yumma shows it to him due to him thinking it was too over the top

>>14710353

He can be a fan of gundam and not into gunpla.
That would contrast with Fumina who loves gunpla battle, and Yuuma who is good at gunpla but is a chickenshit or whatever his faggy little problems were.

>>14710363
Yuuma was the MC with the most character development and believable motivations. Pretty much the only decent guy around.
It´s so sad to see him get shit on so much.

>>14710007
But America having a team of Homie Gundam, Cowboy Gundam, and Surfer Gundam would be based as fuck.

>>14712124

>Homie Gundam instead of GI Gundam (or some hilariously over the top military themed one) for that extra 'MURRICA FUCK YEAH flavor

File: GBF色々08 by あつみ.jpg (232KB, 540x450px) Image search: [Google]

232KB, 540x450px

>>14705399
Have Gyanko win the Sekai bowl, and Minato win the Fumina bowl.
Then don't bring up romance again except for short cute bits or comedy. Good comedy like in S1.

What everyone else said about more thought being put into the fights, and dial down the stock attacks, but also end it with team Try having to fight each other to compete for the gold. Have Fumina win.
Hell, have Gyanko win the tournament.

File: gi.jpg (92KB, 500x562px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 500x562px

>>14712133
Homie Gundam gets repackaged as GI Gundam

>>14706230
How about we come up with theoretical applications of various modelling skills for gunpla battle?
>Gloss coat is anti-beam, but harder to control
>Anti-beam rating depends on the level of the gloss coat, with orange-peeling severely knocking that rating down
>Matte coating increases durability, adds resistance to kinetic weapons and increases control
>Clear parts store particles, but are magnets to beam attacks

Ban all clear parts.

I think the most insulting part of the ova was in the scene where the harem is walking down the beach and get jealous of a kid, they chose to play Fellini's theme from S1.

>>14712700
The dumbest part was Fumina complaining about the other two putting on their swimsuits when she dresses like a slut 24/7.

>>14712166
I like where this is going

Writing aside there should be a restriction about gunpla in the show:
1. No original units, unless it's the main villain
2. There can't be more than one gundam with the same base model, unless it's for dramatic purposes.

File: F91.webm (574KB, 700x379px) Image search: [Google]

574KB, 700x379px

>>14705399
A few years timeskip timeskip
Sei's son against Reiji's daughter
Add to that a cute romance born from the rivalry and end it F91/ANT gunpla hug, everyone wins.

>>14714290
Cuties.

>>14714290
Every single time

>>14705474
That was pointed out in the series that she shoe-horned herself into a support only role. Note: Star W is actually really powerful. Really, really powerful. and aggressive.

I would rather wait and see them as they are in a few years helping the next generation.

>>14715052
BF barely appearef in Try so Team Tryhard shouldn't appear in the next generation apart from cameos.
Maybe we get lucky and we don't see a main team using SDs ever again.

>>14714305
>No original units

This this this. Introducing suits with no discernable kit origin allows characters to bullshit their way through any and all obstacles, instead of being generally restricted to the qualities of the original suit modified + scratchbuild skills.

all these whining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgJspGbPGA8

>>14714290
It bafffles me how some people can like Mirai.

>>14705399
Well they could TRY!

>>14715591
>Well they could TRY!
Pretty much this...

Hell, Sekai isn't even that bad of a protagonist, yes he's an average shonen-shit, but wanting to "Fight Good" in a toy fighting anime is a good enough motivation.

Problem is, TRY's writers just didn't put any effort into how the fights should play out, so Sekai just Punch-Beam spammed his way to victory most of the time.
With no thought put into most of the fight choreography, a lot of the fighting ended up shallow, predictable, and un-entertaining to watch.

If you can't come up with material for fights between more than two combatants, THEN DON'T FUCKING DO TEAM V TEAM FIGHTS!

If you DO have Teams, then make sure you employ ACTUAL TACTICS, which are going to have to EVOLVE and CHANGE as the characters encounter and clash with one another.

Sekai spamming Beam Punches?
Guess what, Beam Absorption is a thing in the Build Fighters Universe!
NOW Team Try Fighters has to come up with a way to get their "Ace" into grappling range without him being shot to shit first, and the fight ACTUALLY HAS FUCKING STAKES TO KEEP US INTERESTED!
And you have to be prepared to KEEP doing this in various ways, because otherwise the fights aren't going to be anything we want to see.

File: karabako_43801.jpg (417KB, 1000x1001px) Image search: [Google]

417KB, 1000x1001px

They should bring back those ridiculous international stereotypes like that that Italian Mexican and Thailand's best and ONLY baseball player

>>14719611
The staff already said they coudln´t do team battles, they were forced to do them by the executives.

>>14720909
>The staff already said they coudln´t do team battles, they were forced to do them by the executives.
Which is sad, since the premise could still work, but you'd probably have to EXPAND the individual teams and draw out the fights so you'd have fewer over all.

I mean, who wouldn't want to watch the Gunpla War-gaming Tournament?

>>14705399
Keep doing exactly what they've been doing because I like the show.

>>14721254
I´m so sorry.

Along with the abandonment or heavy modification of the 3v3 concept and other aforementioned things like giving us machines that are nice and characters we care about, I think another issue was the stakes involved.

Maybe BF itself can be blamed for this partially, but we went from Sei and Reiji's quest to become world champions to some dinky little national-level pow-wow to place in the world championship, and who knows if Try will ever receive a direct sequel to make it worthwhile.

>>14712704

What, you thought it was that, and not Fumina actually getting genuinely flustered at Sekai spending time with a child in her single digits?

>>14705399
Of course they can. Just like they pretend Gunpla Builders Beginning G didn't happen and that all the build fighters manga that existed for decades beforehand didn't happen.

>>14721292
>I think another issue was the stakes involved.
>Maybe BF itself can be blamed for this partially, but we went from Sei and Reiji's quest to become world champions to some dinky little national-level pow-wow to place in the world championship, and who knows if Try will ever receive a direct sequel to make it worthwhile.
Eh, I didn't mind the lowered stakes as much, after all they still had the same structure of Regional Tourney followed by the World Championship/Nationals.
This is honestly one of the problems that comes up with the expanded team format; They had to stick with the original's pacing, but with three times the characters to introduce.

This ties in with my suggestion earlier to draw out the individual fights; If they just covered a single leg of the Tournament setup, they'd have time to develop the rival teams as wholes, instead of one Ace and two generic, disposable wing-men.

When will one of these Sazaki fuckers use a Gyan Krieger so I can finally get a kit of it?

File: 58919716_p1.jpg (320KB, 800x930px) Image search: [Google]

320KB, 800x930px

Make best couple happen.

>>14710291
So a Hyperion Gundam but blacker? And Unit 2 was pretty black to begin with.

I'd just settle for a Turn A unit getting to do more than job to whatever joke character's onscfreen at the time.

>>14721484
BF seems to dislike turn A in general.
Turn X got destroyed by a fucking gyan.

I think if they have to give us a protagonist that doesn't know anything about gundam he should already be into Plamo
Like some guy who loves building model tanks/planes/whatever who finds out you can play a cool fight game with plamo but only if it's these weird robot plamo.
You could get silly with his customs being inspired by whatever models he used to build before, like a Guncannon with the cannons being rotating tank heads or whatever, or like a flight pack for an ms inspired by jets with little landing wheels that come out of the feet when it lands

>>14721414
This x1000.

>>14705399
new story takes place in an alternate universe where the same stuff happens, only Reiji didn't fuck off, therefore, TRY doesn't happen

there, franchise saved

>>14722827
Man, they really dropped the ball with Gyanko´s swimsuit.

File: 58919716_p0.jpg (156KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]

156KB, 800x600px

>>14721414

>>14705600
>Staff were doing what they want.
Which is a problem because the staff of Try was shit.

>>14722899
They also dropped the ball with Gyanko's entire character design. Same with every other samefaced female in BF.

>>14722806
That actually sounds kinda interesting. It could show off some of Gundam's tanks and planes and incorporate them into new and interesting kits. I'd buy a mobile suit with tank turrets attached to it's forearms, or a suit with a aircraft carrier attached to it's back that launches mini fighters as funnels.

>>14722998

Wasn't that what Yuuki did in BF1 before he became Meijin Kawaguchi? He had reactive armor from tank kits, a rifle made out of a tank cannon, missile launchers and all that. They even said he was president of the plamo club which was unrelated to gunpla apparently.

Too bad it got dropped when he became Meijin.

>>14722806
>You could get silly with his customs being inspired by whatever models he used to build before, like a Guncannon with the cannons being rotating tank heads or whatever, or like a flight pack for an ms inspired by jets with little landing wheels that come out of the feet when it lands
>>14722998
>That actually sounds kinda interesting. It could show off some of Gundam's tanks and planes and incorporate them into new and interesting kits. I'd buy a mobile suit with tank turrets attached to it's forearms, or a suit with a aircraft carrier attached to it's back that launches mini fighters as funnels.
Funny, just the other day I was thinking about a Ground-type version of the GM Juggler, that used Type 61s instead of Balls.

But yeah, shit like this is EXACTLY why I want to see the Gunpla War-gaming scene!

>>14723040
Still, it would be nice if it were a little less subtle about it, and to have it be a trait of the main character. Having multiple suits for different situations wouldn't kill 'em, either.

>>14722926
You take that back.

>>14722787
That's still less irritating than being piloted by some douche and getting dickpunched to death by Memeguy like Turn A did.

Gorilladude with the SUMO and Turn X was scrub-tier, but at least he wasn't a huge faggot.

>>14722806
>>14722998
The MC would have to start off as a total logisticsfag, taken aback by the most basic mobile suit designs. He gets a bit more lax on the details as the series progresses, while his own designs get more whimsical. By the end of the series, he has learned the golden rule of mecha: "Because it looks cool"

File: BALLGUY!.png (339KB, 743x883px) Image search: [Google]

339KB, 743x883px

>>14726087
Or he combines both, creating BALL GUY!!!