/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #1104

Yo, 'sup, hommie

>>14697715
Not much, grabbing some breakfast and making new threads.

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Test

>>14697724
So whose bright idea was it to make this asshole the end boss of Z anyway

>>14697744
Terada

>>14697724
What about Edel? He was cool troll in Z1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8cqhKaLA4s

>>14697724
Gaaaaaaay

>>14697751
Actually, he was the hero the whole time and it's not like beating him accomplished anything since the world got destroyed in Z3 anyway

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It's time for Sakuya's game, you know.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wokmakn06bqoocm/%5BPSX%5D_Super_Robot_Taisen_Alpha_%5BLimited_Edition%5D.img
Reposting Alpha translated .iso from last thread just in case.

>>14697775
Is that the FUCK YOU translation, or something more complete?

>>14697775
Wait I thought the alpha translation was never finished

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Praise hime!

>>14697768
Tip: Two overly powerful characters will join early on in Marisa's route. They aren't permanent, but they'll stick around until you finish the first half of the game so it's not a total waste to upgrade them.

Also Remilia sucks. Like, really, really, REALLY sucks.

>>14697779
Yea, it's the FUCK YOU patch from IceMan or whoever.
>>14697786
It's just a menu patch and the intro mission, really, but it's handy enough for just playing through.

>>14697791
Please do not insult the ojou sama in my presence or I will be forced to activate my spell card.

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>>14697768
>Touhou themed controllers announced
>Marisa so popular it crashed the servers.

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STAGE 1 SAKUYA UP IN THIS

Super Robot Wars?

>>14697811
Yes.

>>14697811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Uiq0_N5nk

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How about some Coustwell?

I haven't quite figured out what I'm going to do to Granteed as yet.

>>14697834
Make Orgone Shot a 1-5 non-P.

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>>14697811
Exactly.

>>14697839
Does Cheat Engine work on those games? I feel that's the only way I'm going to get any enjoyment out of them.

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WAY OF AVICI

>>14697845
Why don't you just play EASY MODO then? It is an actual option

2Hu Wars actually has anti-cheat protection checks, I think someone explained the details once

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>>14697811

>>14697835
So that RR Touya learning Assault has an actual purpose?

>>14697855
Well, I was thinking it would force you to get closer to your targets during the player phase, while giving you slightly better counterattack range.

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I'm glad they included the twin system in FMW3.

There were a few characters I really wanted to use in 2 but couldn't due to lack of space.

The new ship is an interesting addition, too.

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Mio!

>>14697874
Sasuga Mio

>>14697845
Cheat Engine works fine for FMW1, but for 2 and 3 you need to have it started up before opening the game or else the game will flip you off.

2 and 3 have further checks to make sure you don't have more WP than you should, but other than that you can hack as much money or PP as you want.

If you can't enjoy a SRW game without infinite resources though, I'm not really sure why you'd even want to play FMW. Half the fun is playing a SRW game that's so different.

>>14697871
Elly is the best backpack in the game. The Palanquin Ship is pretty bad though, since it doesn't get its barrier until 4.

You're on Marisa's route so you're not going to see much of it though.

>>14697790
Does anyone have pictures of the princess's butt? I need them for science.

>>14697891
>If you can't enjoy a SRW game without infinite resources though, I'm not really sure why you'd even want to play FMW. Half the fun is playing a SRW game that's so different.

I don't cheat in normal SRW games, but the Touhou edition is just way too hard later on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9dC1o6gWTU

Does anyone recognize the jingle within the first couple of seconds?

Sounds like it's a reference, but I don't know.

KONO TAIKEN needs this in addition to its current FUB

Orgonite Bhaskar Sword gains Barrier Pierce property

>>14697861
That's a good idea too.

>>14697980
I think its from Realize.

>>14697768
>implying it's not Yuyuko Game
Well, she joins a little later since you're on Marisa's route, but holy shit does she kick ass.

Looks like someone over at Sanbondo knew who best 2hu is.

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>>14697997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKU1VU2YTZk

Did they add this shot in the HD remaster thing they did or did they always have breasts that swayed so well in OP4

>>14698014
While there were tits in the original, they didn't boing as well as they did in the remaster.

>>14697981
Yeah, I don't understand why it doesn't have barrier pierce. Makes no sense at all. OGMD has a lot of finishers without barrier pierce, come to think of it. Oddly, Aqua's side of Cerberus has no piercing weapons, and Aqua's Garmraid has pierce on its second-best weapon, not the finisher.

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I'm not really hearing the similarities between Realize and Sanae's theme

but

if there's anyone who would be a Freedom/SEED reference this early into the game it's probably her.

Does anyone have the moon dwellers OST? I dont wanna rip every single mp3 from youtube, thanks.

>>14698030
Brand New Wind is pretty good, but I found myself switching her back to her enemy theme. It's just better.

Also, you'll probably want to give her a squad of her own, rather than keeping her behind Reimu. She's quite competent, and Reimu will want to be paired with the best backpack in the game anyway (who you'll get in a couple stages).

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Its still a work in progress. I do know for sure that Granteed's going to have EN Regen S but the damage values still need some work.

>>14698031
the official OST comes out on the 21st of this month

or do you mean that CD that came out with the special edition?

>>14698025
Soul Saber FF says hello.

>>14698037
the cd

>>14698041
Hello about what? Being one of the few units with Barrier Pierce on almost everything?

>>14698030
Thanks for making me want to run through FMW3 VF

>>14698044
https://mega.nz/#!bUIwHKBZ!XYU2hGCkOdy8Y8hutlPlsWw4_QNJiRPyzma2iCqVX8Y

>>14698052
>https://mega.nz/#!bUIwHKBZ!XYU2hGCkOdy8Y8hutlPlsWw4_QNJiRPyzma2iCqVX8Y

awesomne thanks!

>>14698049
Yeah, I don't know why FF gets Barrier Pierce everywhere but they don't even give it on the Raftclans Aurun finisher

>>14698068
Drills always get Barrier Pierce.

>>14698051
Sahibcard: The Great Manipulator

YOU SEE THE TITLE OF MY SAHIBCARD IS A REFERENCE TO SOME OBSCURE TAOIST BULLSHIT

BUT ALSO IT'S A REFERENCE TO SOME POPULAR MANGA EVERYONE'S HEARD OF

AND ALSO A 1932 FILM.

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Did the GC finale last night in Moon Dwellers. I know it has been said already, but wow, that was rough. Helluga's mech and the MP versions of Vaught and Regianne's mechs were the toughest parts. I probably would have had an easier time if I didn't waste a lot of SP on Regianne, but I wanted her gone fast. That said, I'm surprised I made it through with only one unit lost.

>>14698068
Enemy units tend to not get Barrier Pierce.

>>14698091
I got tired of dealing with Herluga, so I put everyone except Calvina back in the ship, and just took potshots at him. Then he hit half HP, and started doing 10% damage to everyone every turn, so I brought out some repair units.

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What is Josh thinking?

Kinda annoying like Gilliam and Shuu knowing something but don't explain shit

>>14698033
Sanae can be good, but to use her to her best you need to deploy both Kanako and Suwako and go full in on the Moriya Faith Katamari strategy.

Alice is the better example of "this designated backpack is actually really good in front".

>>14698123
He's thinking that maybe he can rescue Chris and Ventus from being Perfectio's fuckpuppets.

>>14698091
Yes, it's the most annoying/hard stage of the game if you're running out of SP.

>40K Gardisword mooks

Why is this allowed?

Is it me or does 2nd have harder SR points than MD? Most of MD's were really easy "kill everything in 6 turns" shit that you'd pretty much have to try to not fulfill, while I've barely started 2nd and it's already giving me things like "kill the last 3 enemies all at once with a MAP attack" and "finish off all the enemies in 3 turns (and btw they're not very aggressive and all your handful of units are still weak right now)"

>>14698124
She can do fine without them. She certainly won't be anywhere near the level of broken that she can hit with friendship abuse, but her stats are serviceable and her combo is pretty nice, so she can perform just fine without having to spend 20+ deployment cost on cheerleaders for her.

>>14698136
Don't you get a free refill toward the end of the mission? I could've sworn all my characters had maxed SP out of nowhere, when I'd used almost everything beforehand.

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>Checking TGS info
>Oh cool, they put some SaGa info
>Yuichi Nakamura is gonna be on stage with Kawazu and Itoken
>mfw

So, Nakamura is all but confirmed for Akumetsu, the question is, who will Sugita voice?

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>>14698157
maybe but isn't that the stage with this fucker as an reinforcement?

Is there an SRW that puts quite as much weight on the OG stuff as Z3? Besides OG itself, of course.

I mean, even putting the whole thing about fighting nothing but OG enemies for most of the game, just about all of the non-OG villains have their motivations altered to tie directly into either Sidereal, the Angels or the the whole time loop thing, and during the entire endgame, it's not so much about everyone putting their powers together to beat up the threat than it is about Hibiki and Edel with everybody else sort of just tagging along as support.

>>14698177
Yeah, it is. I didn't have much trouble taking down Iladoya once she was finally in range, but Precision Bomb is awful.

>>14698143
Not really, they're about the same in the end.

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>>14698030
Hope you're ready for the best mob killer in the game once you give her the necessary backpack.
https://youtu.be/zz2qOkS6xyY

It's not Remi sadly.

>>14698185
No.

It's kind of one of the main criticisms of Z3 amongst the others that there is way too much emphasis on the OG side of things that it interferes with events in general.

It's not even terribly good OG plot either.

>>14698205
But it is the best OG plot with the best OG characters because they are the strongest. Hibiki is very strong, the strongest OG character and the best. Advent is the most powerful SRW villain, and the best, and Hibiki beats him, so he is the strongestest and super best.

>>14698205
The emphasis wouldn't even be that bad if not for Tengoku having hardly any licensed plot to use.

The plot pacing in Z is fucking shit is what I'm saying.

>>14698128
Hope so,Neutron Buster without Chris doesn't feel right

how the hell is Touya + a support supposed to do around 39,000 damage without a Maxinum Break?

>>14698284
You can twin Touya you know. The rest is the standard boss killing strategy.

>>14698284
The main attacker and sub can both use Hot Blood to boost damage dealt. Even moreso if the sub has Focused Attack. You might want Fighting Spirit on your support attackers, since that guarantees critical hits. Other than that, surround the enemy on all four sides, and hit it with an Armor Breaker. Might want to cut their morale down with Excellen / Aschen, too.

>>14698284
Have someone with Smite use an armor down attack on it, Dishearten it as many times as you can, surround it on all four sides, and have touya, his twin, and his assist swing at it as hard as they can

Might still be tough if you haven't been upgrading your weapon ranks but it's doable

>>14698284
Also, I hope you deployed Rescue, or you're not getting Coustwell. If you shoot Jua-Mu down with anyone except Touya, he retreats. If Touya beats him, Coustwell blows up, and you'll get the unit afterward if Rescue is on the field.

>>14698299
>If you shoot Jua-Mu down with anyone except Touya, he retreats.

I worded that poorly. Touya needs to initiate the attack, as you probably know.

>>14697891
>Elly is the best backpack in the game
What the heck did Elly get in 3 that gave her this honor?

>>14698302
Having a backpack with Accel, Support Defense and something to reduce the amount of damage taken when support defending is great.

Although most people rate Yukari and Meiling above Elly in terms of being a good backpack. Rumia is also a really good backpack in 3 (but only for Flan).

>>14698299
I did. She is currently a sub for RKO

I think I am going to load up everyone onto the Hagane (because of it's FUB) and figure out who to pair with who for this.

>>14698235
But if they hadn't split the game in two, how on earth could they possibly have fit all three Rebuild movies in?

>>14698314
Touya + Sanger/Ryusei
Support Arriere/Mai or Hugo/Ibis or any combination of good support attackers

Land an Armor Down from Bakusaiken/Armor Breaker, drop Coustwell's HP as close to 39k as possible and then slap him with as many Exhausts as possible.

The rest is simple. You can also inflate your damage with Thruster Modules.

>>14698185
>>14698205
>>14698235
I think the existence of V having series like Hathaway's Flash and Daitarn having enemies gives me the impression that Tengoku turned out that way because they couldn't finish a lot of assets and had to wing a plot out of their butts

>>14698320
You can also use give MB to Tou-Ya to have an easier time setting it up, but that should only be something you'll need on a first run since weapon upgrades should be pretty low.

>>14698328
Not the first time that people have theorized that V is partially a "this is what Z3 should have been" game.

>>14698328
>this retarded nonsense again

Yeah, W was everything that was supposed to be in J, and L was everything that was supposed to be in K

>>14698341
There's no need for Maximum Break. You can get it without Maximum Break because Coustwell's perfectly possible on EX Hard.

>>14698320
>You can also inflate your damage with Thruster Modules.

huh?

>>14698360
Have you never used your terrain parts for free damage?

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>>14698034
So how do you like your Granteed?

>>14698328
Yeah, V's definitely the game they're shoving all their unfinished Z3 assets. Like, even beyond the Daitarn enemies, we've got:
>Destiny on the cast list, nicely in position to use all those sprites they made
>CCA's around so Hi-Nu might actually show up now that they actually finished it
>Mazinger's unlocking its true power for real this time through ZERO
>ZZ's here and you can't tell me they didn't want to put it in Z3, you just can't

The shows that don't really fit this are Getter, 00, Zeta, FMP and maybe Rebuild depending on whether or not they actually use its plot this time, but those are here probably because they had 2 minutes to put something, anything, together and had to improvise with Z3 assets.

>>14698363
Granteed THE SNIPER, best friends with Shin Mazinger and Gorg

>>14698328
They're just building off of the assests they already have.
This isn't a new practice at all and certainly doesn't make V some sort of Tengoku Reparation

SAHIBONITE

MATERIALIZATION

>>14698307
Meiling is worth giving her own squad, really. She's such a good support defender that it's a waste to have her cover just one person.

>>14698370
When we get to a point where Z3 has Banjo destroying the Meganoids off-screen after five games of buildup, and then in V we're finally fighting them, there's really just no other way to read it is there

>>14698361
not really

>>14698377
Because we've never done a plot offscreen before.
Never ever.
Nope, that's just unheard of.

>>14698377
The game could have entirely new assets and you'd still find a way to read it in whatever way fit your little mind.

This is the power of the curse known as [fandom].

Is the Cybuster actually worth using in 2nd? It felt super underwhelming in MD, but that was probably partly because it joined along with the absolutely ridiculous Neo Granzon and Galilnagant

So far it seems solid, I just hope it stays that way for the rest of the game when all the killers are playable too

>The O shows up as reinforcements in this stage
oh wow

managed to take down Ja-Mu

40,000ish HP, 100 will (I was a dumbass and didn't notice that Haken was not on the filed AFTER I quicksaved when his armor was weakened)

I used:
Dracodeus/SRX (using Orgnoite Butster and HTB cannon)
with Rein Weiss (Rampage Ghost)/Hyperlion (GrAmx) for support.

and I still managed to get the SR point.

>>14698366
>ZZ's here and you can't tell me they didn't want to put it in Z3, you just can't

Remember when Z3-1 built up Haman going off on her own and opposing the Eart Federation?

Me neither.

>maybe Rebuild depending on whether or not they actually use its plot this time

Considering that only Q was units only, that's kind of a guarantee.

>>14698377
That logic feels faulty.

>>14698379
Remember when Raideen finished its plot offscreen in Alpha 3? And that other time when we stopped the Third Impact for the second time in the Alpha universe?

>>14698381
Masaki is good if you get the Masoukishin extra attacks.

>>14698378
A weapon's terrain rank directly affects its base power, so if you have a weapon with 6000 power, and it has an S rank in the terrain you're attacking, it's treated as 6600 for calculations.

>>14698398
What if after Alpha 3 there was a non-Alpha game, using all of the same assets, that had Raideen plot and also you stopped Third Impact again

You're sure that wouldn't seem at all like they're reusing content wholesale

>>14698403
So basically I want to make sure the masoukishin characters kill pretty much everything until the la gias route ends, right

I'll just funnel all the kills into Masaki, Mio, and Tytti for a while

>>14698407
So you're basically complaining about what happened with J/W and K/L then?

>>14698407
Oh shit, SRW reuses assets and sometimes follows a series' plot?

Fucking hell, what a groundbreaking discovery

>>14698410
Yes you need 127 combined kills by end of Stage 17 across Masaki, Tytti, Mio, Precia.

>>14698406
that gets ridiculous when moves like Infinity Calibur and Degeneration Cannon break the 8000 mark.

Might use that when trying to go for the 100,000 damage trophy

>>14698410
Masaki's by far the easiest to get all those kills into.

2nd OGs treats him well during the portions where you get to play with him.

>>14698363
It looks like it desperately needs a 1-3 P that costs about 10 Energy at the bare minimum.

CYFLASH

>>14698433
Granteed needs some sort of fatal flaw like the reals though. You can get around the movement issue with Melua and you can get around being landlocked with a flight module.

>>14698366
Didn't Terada say they had plans for ZZ back in Z1?

>>14698453
Terada says a lot of things.

>>14698444
weaker armor

or maybe weaken the barrier

>>14698453
Pretty sure it was 00, and they didn't use it because it wasn't done or something.

ZEUTH vs ZEUTH would've been slightly less dumb if one side had legit full-blown terrorists with them

>>14698453
They apparently had plans for Victory Gundam and Mazinkaiser given voiced lines, but those never showed and aren't in V.

>>14698453
Dunno about interviews, but Z1 apparently did have dummied-out data for new support lines from Amuro to Judau and Usso from V Gundam as well.

Also some other minor bits of dialogue from a pilot from GodSigma, some side characters from Orguss, Meer from Destiny, and what I remember being most interesting, Princess Rubina from Grendizer voicing Mazinkaiser attacks, Turbo Smasher Punch and Fire Blaster specifically.

>>14698465
>Less armor
Granteed already has 1500 armor which is wimpy as fuck in J.

>Weaken barrier
It doesn't have one in the first place and you can't nerf Orgone Cloud without outright removing out.

>>14698381
Is the Cybuster actually worth using in 2nd? It felt super underwhelming in MD.

Cybuster itself is a fucking top tier unit in MD too. Simply, it comes too late to be really useful and Masaki always needs a boost at his stats, because he's not exactly an ace.

And then there is the fact that with the Cybuster you get the Granzon too... Shu and Amala have absurdly ridiculous high stats. Seriously they must be nerfed somehow, although it is fun to unleash Neo Granzon, it is a little insulting.

HA DID IT.

FESTUM REMOVED.

>>14698469
>some side characters from Orguss

Lines fighting the Mu specifically. The Mu no-showed outside of Mome and Captain.

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>>14698479
Excellent

>>14698472
1500 is servicable in J, but most units that have 1200-1500 armor tend to have some way to make most attacks worthless by endgame.

God Gundam gets afterimage, Vorlent has the two-layered invulnerability program, and GAT-X Gundams tend to have shields or too much evasion to even bother.

>quin manthas are worth 18 exp

>it's been 9 years sincee OGG
>9 years without Folka
It's been a long time without you, my friend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMTW_9UtrEs

Plot wise it got nerfed without the Wind Spirit post CotE

>>14698475
funny thing is, Masaki would have been NeoGranzon levels of overpowered had they not had the story excuse to reuse 2ndOGs Cybuster in MD.

maybe next game we'll finally get Possession.
on the last stage

>>14698496
>implying they'll make Giant Magic Space Jew Sugita a final boss again
It'll be the second to last stage.

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>>14698491
Good

>>14698472
Couldn't you just switch out the orgone clouds for built in barriers op-parts? that way, Player Units get 800 barrier, no teleport, while enemy units keep their 1200 barriers and Teleports.

>>14698496
Possession Cybuster will have no MAP or ALL.

It'll just have really strong single target attacks.

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>>14698013
>Looks like someone over at Sanbondo knew who best 2hu is.
Well, Komachi's my favorite and I don't have Yuyuko in my top 5 but I can see where you're coming from.

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ech

>>14698491
>it's been 15 years since 9/11

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"I will not die"

>>14698488
Actually the SEED Gundams are at 1300 and the God Gundam is a bit worse. But you are right that units with less 1500 or less armor tend to have a bunch of special defenses.

Granteed doesn't have those so I'm trying to avoid forcing players into choosing Melua as Touya's sub pilot.
>>14698506
I was actually opting to do something like

>Barrier - Bellzelute
>Bunshin - Coustwell
>EN Regen - Granteed

Then the reals/Raftclans get EN Regen S, Granteed gets something else to help it survive longer. Raftclans has all three special defenses it doesn't really care.

Al-Van gets to keep the full powered Orgone Cloud though.

The real issue is keeping Granteed's base power values in line so it doesn't get out of hand because J's upgrade tier variety is rather tiny, 900/1000/1100/1250.

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>9 years without Eternal or Lightning in HD

Thanks, Banpresto

>>14698427
Yeah I'm about to start stage 8 and he's already at 40 kills, with Mio and Tytti at 15 and 13, so this shouldn't be too hard really

I've also been dumping most of my money into their mechs because I don't really intend to use any of the other ones I have right now much later except for possibly the Weissritter and SRX

I'm making sure to get this secret because I fucking love the Zamzeed and Cybuster

>>14698543
You should put some money into the Altairlion. Masaki/Ibis is a really good PU and you get two solid units for your troubles at the end.

>>14698541
This is sorta unrelated but there used to be an Arabic actor had this gimmick of referring to people as "excellence"

"Hello, Excellence!"
"Good evening, Excellence!"

So I just wanted to point out that I make obscure Arabic gags to myself whenever I use the Excellence units.

>>14698568
>there used to be an Arabic actor had this gimmick of referring to people as "excellence"


No there wasn't.

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>>14698576
Are you certain, Excellence?

Don't try to out-sahib a sahib.

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Cowboy Bebop in SRW when?

>>14698596
No you can't.

>>14698600
Wasn't it only in the free battle mode?

>>14698600
What's that second Gundam above Amuro?

>>14698509
Maybe OG Possession will Increase the number of attacks with a MAP AT.

>>14698645
It's one of those weird Sunrise Eiyuutan originals. They made a bunch of OC mobile suits, ATs, Aura Battlers and so on for these games.

When G Breaker got into SRW, they even managed to put a few of them in:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2723305

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>>14698645

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>>14698670

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But wait
perhaps
Gilly is immortal???

>>14698675
Weren't some of these the reasons why we didn't get the other GC MC units?

>>14698656
The whole schtick about possession in LoE is they're sacrificing their whole moveset for a standard-issue P attack, a ranged attack, and really fucking strong finisher. I imagine Possession would give S terrains and something like +1 movement, +15-20 Mobility and Targetting, +3-400 armor, and +1000-1500 HP. But no new moves outside of the usual 3 for Possession.

>>14698675
>>14698665
Yeah, Alpha Gaiden has the Guardial and Gulstorm, but they're recolored red and green for some reason.

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>>14698690
Jim had a real heavy makeover there.

>>14698685
Yes. Charge the Soul of Fighters (the BGM used by GC units) is also from that series, so I'm surprised it was in OG.

What kind of power scaling should I go for in the J balance hack?

OG tier or something a little lower? Its especially relevant for the supers.

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let's see how tough this boss is
>>14698693
he got jacked

>>14698541
That kind of attack power would still work in OG right now. As far as I can tell, most of the new OGG units got their attack set up so that they'd have a pseudo 15-upgrade attack power amount at 10 upgrades, since OGG doesn't go to 15 unless you use a code.

Oh hey, Demonpain.

I must be about to get the SWORD OF GRUDGE BARUZAI then.

>>14698541
>yfw switchable Lightning and Eternal

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It's far from optimal, but he can still one shot Big Zams

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>>14698479
>HA DID IT.
>FESTUM REMOVED.
To our pure and blue world!

You know, I didn't pay attention to the translation the first time, but stage 35 to 44 happen in about a day, yet they only complained about fatigue once? Seriously, this is weird when you have stages in the early game that had your crew "tired" for less.

>>14698743
Shut up, you're dead in backstory.

>>14698743
Silence. You're inferior to Hester in every way. You didn't have to wage a war against mind reading aliens that eat people for 30 years to become a stone cold killer willing to murder the majority of humanity to save a small portion.

>>14698745
They were rusty at the beginning of the game. From the start they got their engines back online for MASS DESTRUCTION

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>>14698748
>>14698751
I'm no coward like the President is, nor am I a dreamer like Durandal. In order to protect, I'll pull the trigger when I have to.

Durandal, this will be your requiem.

I've got some freetime coming up, so I've got a quick question here: which game would you guys want a summary/partial translation of the most?

>>14698770
UX

>>14698771
Seconding

>>14698743
>>14698766
What's up with the lavender lipstick?

>>14698770
UX

>>14698320
Hugo? Why? No Co-op attack or retarded damage attack like Mai. No attacker either.

>>14698772
Thirding

>>14698779
>>14698783
Fifthing I guess.

>>14698770
UX, by far.

>>14698782
He has Fighting Spirit/Militate to force he and his partner to critical.

>>14698770
I'll add on to the pile suggesting UX. Even better if it's for a perfect run with all the secrets unlocked.

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it's made of paper

>>14698805
But if you're going to boss-killing and have a hp threshold to worry about why aren't you using valor?

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contradictory statements

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>>14698770
UX

>>14698816
Because Valor doesn't work on Support Attacks.

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But wait! What's this? We've got to fight him one more times
this is the SUPER ROBOT WARS

>>14698823
It sure as fuck consumes the buff

>>14698830
No it doesn't.

How mad will you be when the next game has SR points like these

>Do not let any ally Ganjal or Dona Lyunpee get shot down.
>Do not let any ally Restrail or Grassidow get shot down.

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Figuring out Granteed was a bit difficult since it needs to be stronger than the others but not so strong that even with Tenia buffs, the reals still can't match up to it.

I wish Orgonite Buster was a thing in J to help flesh its moveset. Onwards to Long Range Rifle the unit then.

>>14698770
UX

>>14698819
Clearly he doesn't die when he's killed.

>>14698823
Does it get used up if the Support Attacker attacks, or can they still use a Valored attack afterwards?

>>14698856
Valor doesn't get used up if the person has it is support attacking. That's who its been for the longest time.

>>14698838
Reduce the HP of Dona Barellion to 1000 or under

>>14698770
Agreeing with everyone that says UX

>>14698534
well that's what I get for upgrading. a faulty memory.

J was a bit too generous with giving Reals either shields or Barriers when the AI would never target them to begin with (Except God Gundam because you're SUPPOSED to get hit with it, since Domon loses Will for dodging)


are those addons for the upgrades?
I would honestly go for the Early-Mid OGs having no special options, which cause them to lag behind the Anime units overtime. when the upgrades come, give them EN-Regen S, and M A Y B E an 800-barrier....except Coustwell, who would get Afterimage instead.

I hate to say it, but the Layzners should have their Afterimages removed. it's already too evasive and doesn't V-Max grant it Beam Coating anyway?

>>14698906
This is gonna sound odd, but could you give all SPTs HP Regen small?

It's been bugging me since the SPTs slowly self repair in the show from what I've seen and that's not reflected in any of the games with Layzner.

>>14698906
I plan on increasing the accuracy and damage of enemy units so the originals might actually like having something to help out with durability.

In Granteed's case, I'm kind of worried that it'll run of EN a bit too fast without EN Regen of some sort since its cheapest move is 10 EN.

Also Domon loses Will for missing since he's Super Strong willed.

>>14698914
I was actually planning on giving all of them Beam Coat and then be really nitpicky when it comes to what's a Beam and what bypasses Phase Shift.

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GM's stats before the final stats

>>14698931
Jimmy got huge.

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>>14698935
He's gonna need it because we're at the final stage and now we are truly the super robot wars (1991)

>>14698916
I didn't say missing. I thought Domon lost will when EVADING in the same Vein as Kouji and Toya.

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>>14698838
>SR Point: Mass-Produced Huckebein Mk II (NPC) defeats an enemy

>>14698957
I dunno, it's much harder to keep the damn things alive than it is to feed them a kill or two.

Who thinks masaki will turn into Asakim in future games and the full possession is the black knowledge in Masakis mind and the cybuster turns into the shirouga

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>>14698939
There's no personality type that causes you to lose morale from evading attacks.

>>14698962
Not me.

>>14698938
>>14698965
>more armor than Great Mazinger

What the shit.

>>14698965
Oh wow this won't even be a fight if he only has that much attack compared to Great.

>>14698976
>>14698981
Gilly deals about 28 damage per hit
now, in a 1v1, GM would win without question, but the problem here is that it's surrounded by 7 Geymalks, and psycho gundams are constantly spawning
About the standard for this game, all I have to do is manage the adds and back out to a tower here

>>14698969
Normal: +1 for hitting and getting hit
Strong: +1 for hitting, getting hit, and dodging, -1 for missing
Super Strong: +2 for hitting and getting hit, -2 for missing
Cautious: +1 for hitting or getting hit, +2 for dodging, -1 for missing
Cool: +2 for hitting and dodging, -1 for missing and getting hit

>>14698962
No one, because Asakim secret is well known. If we ever get to that point, they will simply adapt it with the elements of OG verse.

Asakim is a creation of the Akashic Records.

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>>14698987
In addition, Gilly outranges me with an attack of 6 range
that said, I'm still confused by how ranged attacks work here because GM has ranged attacks yet can only use them at range 1?

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And last but not least is Volrent. It does pretty well for itself with all three special defenses.

I'll probably do some minor stat adjustments on the other three and then move on to one of the anime series.

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>>14698962
Is just a meme, senpai. Not really happening

>>14698995
>>14699011
Would you kindly Explain it to me and IF it does become a thing how will they adapt it to the OG verse

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While Girly can deal 27-28 damage to GM, GM can deal...

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And thus, Girly is killed at last

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credits

>>14699029
arienai >>>> baka na

>>14699017
Sorry if I got this wrong but
>Shurouga was a mech that was made to take control of the akashic records so it counts as an alternate version of Supreme Z
>it's so old that it has taken many shapes, it also decided that it needs a pilot so it creates pilots to use it (Asakim is the current one)
>the villains of Z captured Shurouga and locked it in it's current form hence why Asakim is cursed with immortality, Shurouga has not switched him off
>It is possible that Asakim resembles Shurouga's original pilot though it's not known if it even had one so possible insert OG explanation here.

>>14699029
俺は戦闘のプロだZE

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>>14699042

Great Mazinger game

>>14698962
I do not have access to the supreme knowledge of the Akashic Records, so I can not know the future. Still, Z3 revealed the origin of Asakim and We know from that that Masaki has no direct link with him. Asakim was not even a true person. He was not even a person, but a creation of the Shurouga from Akasic Records. The true point here is Shurouga origin and that is full of unsolved mysteries right now.

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Super Robot Wars (1991)

>>14699053
>Cue Rocks as the credits theme

How the fuck am I supposed to get the SR point on stage 8 of Masaki's route in 2nd OG? It's the one where you have to go stop an ambush, and the SR point requires you to kill 10 enemies within 2 player phases

I can get up to 7 of them easily, but the rest of the enemies are too far away for anyone but Cybuster and Weissritter to reach in 2 turns, nobody has Accel yet, and Cybuster's MAP attack isn't enough to one-shot the enemies over there, who also won't move in to attack you on the first turn

I already missed a couple easier SR points by trying to funnel kills for the masou Kishin secret so I'm trying not to miss any more because I want the secret route and true end on my first run, but this one has me stumped

>>14699061
Load them into your ship

>>14699065
This is the answer to pretty much every two or three turn SR Point.

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>>14699055
Unfortunately the game couldn't handle that
it only had like 8 tracks
also I never saw boss at all during the course of the game

And that's it.
I'm going to continue chronologically
so... does that means SRW 2 or one of the side games?
I think there were some great battle games that preceded SRW. If anyone had a proper list of Banpresto's games by year in an image file, I'd appreciate it greatly. For now I'm gonna focus on uploading SRW's music on to YT

>>14699061
Just rush in there with Masaki, Excellen, Ibis and Irm.

>>14699069
Why not just look at Gamefaqs by developer?

>>14699069
>>14699079
You messed up. Great Battle predates SRW.

>>14699069
>also I never saw boss at all during the course of the game

Until Z2-1, 1 was the only game in the entire franchise without Boss Borot in some form.

>>14699092
Is UX the only other SRW to lack the Boss?

>>14699061
>player phases

ally phase.

>>14699097
And OE. Which has absolutely no fucking excuse, even.

>>14699079
>>14699085
Fine, I'll switch over to Great Battle to catch up on things
I know very little about Great Battle so I'll be going in blind
>>14699092
But matt, it's right there in the credits!

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>>14699017
As a candidate, there is this faggot too (pic related). Zenvoid is, in fact, the original Cybuster.

>>14698307
Elly edges out both of those two because she's just 2.0 and isn't particularly married to any other units. You can throw her on anyone you want and not suffer for it.

>>14699104
The fucked up thing is the first Great Battle for SNES predates the NES one, because Banpresto was never one much for logic. See: Putting Winkysoft in charge of balance.

>>14698863
What about if it's a combo attack? Same thing (i.e. Valor only counts for the person initiating the attack)?

>>14699104
>But matt, it's right there in the credits!

As a unit, however, it's not there.

It and Full Armor Gundam are in the remake though. And Cybuster. And a few other new faces.

>>14699122
wait
they released a NES game after they already had released a SNES game
>SD great Battle 90: Super Famicom
>Great Battle Cyber 92: Famicom
what
>>14699126
Can't wait to check out the HD version
this game was fun overall, and wasn't all too hard, albeit I was playing it in a way other than intended
It seems to be a mostly simple game with balance veering towards the main guys which makes sense from both a gameplay and anime viewpoint

>>14699125
Same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxUkpNSr6TA

OG when?

>>14699158
Next game, when @3, W, and Tokusatsu Taisen come with it.

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>>14699158
>Rayblade
when will this meme end

>>14699179
Wrong one buddy. レイブレード(ReActive Vital Energy RAIDer)

>>14699113
>>14699041
Thanks And I Knew about zelvoid being the original

>>14699102
OE also didn't have Sayaka. Even in games without Boss, Sayaka shows up.

>>14699131
>Can't wait to check out the HD version
Aside from being in color and HD and tweaking some stuff (like being able to move through allies), it's fundamentally the same "beat the game with one overpowered leader unit" as the original. Unless you capture and scrap almost every single unit in the game and split the parts between a couple people so you can outdamage boss regen.

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Somebody need a list, eh?

Need to sort them, just 5 minutes....

And by the way, here is another example of releasing games on old platforms after releasing on the new one...

I wonder if Banpresto will import any skills from Z into the OG games.

>>14699240
I was hoping Dash made it into OGMD.

Nope.

>>14699210
I didn't mention Sayaka because her robot's in flux. Some games only have Aphrodite A, some games only have Diana A, some games give her Venus A (the Kaiser and Shin ones) and a small number of those only have Venus.

If we go by pilots, Boss WAS in Z2-1. He just didn't have his robot since Z2-1 Shin ended at, I forget, Episode 11 or so?

>>14699245
But she's playable. That's the only point I was making.

>>14699253
True enough.

So how many characters from Masoukishin would make it back into the main games?

The Seven, Lune, Presia and who else?

>>14699243
Only way it's making it to OG is if Infight is changed to its nitendo handheld counterpart.
Same for Gunfight for convenience's sake, the most range anyone gets from it is just +1 nowadays

>>14699256
Elicia, Lionel and if she wakes up/isn't dead, probably Phylis.
After that, it'd be a popularity poll to see who else gets in, Gaen and Fang pretty much confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grs1aYI4n7c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nB9kjp1Oj4

>>14699210
what are the great battle games like anyway?
Standard RPG style?

>>14699264
I don't know why Banpresto refuses to change them to the handheld counterpart version anyway.

A lot of characters wouldn't mind it being a thing again.

>>14699268
I have no fucking clue.

>>14699268
VARIOUS GENRES, actually.

Gonna include that data too, just a sec...

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>>14699266
I hated when Kirks cockteased Remia in Kyosuke's route.

>>14699268
Every game is different from the last one, so it's kind of hard to nail them down to a single genre.
Platformers/beat'em ups mostly? I remember I think GB5 playing a lot like Sunset Riders

>>14699268
Mostly plataformers actually.

>>14699264
I think they might bring back Saphine, Zash, Remia, Xenia and Monica too. At least if not playable then as npcs.

>>14699278
>>14699283
>>14699290
>>14699291
hm. It will certainly be an interesting experience playing them. If I can help you guys learn shit about it, I'll be sure to show you
Wish me luck

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Hey guys, I've make a Telegram sticker pack based off MD portrait rips!

https://telegram.me/addstickers/srwmd

>>14699256
Those plus Gaen and Wendy/Tudy are quite likely.

Fang, Elicia, and maybe Lionel are all possible, but I really wouldn't count on any of them. Pretty much everyone else is screwed. Which is a shame, because it would be cool if Best Girl made it to OG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd1FZjI7cTU

>>14699342
Thanks, senpai

>>14699264
Elicia is cute and all, but is not that coffin was so popular and her mecha was not particularly in any way. i would like her, of course.

The only new person who could really get in the OG is Elan because... Kamiya voice.

>Cybuster has 2 pages of moves
>But none of them are ALLs

Also, I'm really disappointed that MD reverted to 10 deployment slots after I finally got the MK cast.

>>14699360
And Sakito.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mh9aVO_cZI

In OG when?

>>14699343
Elicia, Lionel, and Sakito should be coming back considering they came from the surface

>>14699368
I think they should make Cybuster's High Familiar an ALL, then leave Cybird's as the single-target variant.

>>14699360
Elicia gets in just because she's glued to Sakito who's pretty much confirmed.
Lionel too, but less so.

>>14699387
Lionel's voiced by Chris "FUCK BOULDERS" Redfield. That's reason-enough to have him in OG.

>>14699379
>Elicia, Lionel, and Sakito should be coming back considering they came from the surface
Elicia is a La Gias native. She's from the Republic of Almera.

>>14699390
I think like 50% of Lionel's VA's roles are BIG MUSCLE DUDE, actually

>>14699394
I always thought Elicia, Lionel, and Teal were from some Surface group they even have matching uniforms.

>Not wanting Elicia in mainline for that theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVlP0pZVaXs

>>14699402
Lionel's a DC soldier from the surface, but the others are from La Gias.

>>14699402
Lionel was,part of the DMX team

>SRW GC - 2004
>SRW NEO - 2009
>ACE 2 - 2006
It's happening next game, the Free Electron Cannon was merely foreshadowing for what is yet to come.
Prepare yourself for the GLORY DAAAAAAAAYS

just kidding, Banpresto isn't gonna purchase the rights to the songs

>>14699407
I just want her because she's hot. And we desperately need more long flowy black hair in OG

>>14699113
>Zenvoid is, in fact, the original Cybuster.
That is never stated, only implied and eventually the new writer for CotE straight up forgot about the plot point and never elaborated on it again.

The actual facts stated are
-Zelvoid was a ancient mass produced unit
-It highly resembles Cybuster and can use a similar style of attacks
-It runs on the power of Zelv
-Wendy herself can't remember where the design for Cybusters appearance came from since she was in Tuddi mode at the time.

>>14699390
I need Lionel in the Deegrid, the Valsioga should be around but the Deegrid is probably my favorite OG grunt mech followed by the Riot series.

>>14699413
>>14699416
Thanks for the clarification, all the more reason Lionel should be coming back if anything.

>>14699413
Dunno why I said DC, this guy's right. >>14699416

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>>14699300
And here is a simple guide, in case you need it.

Some trivia:

-Yes, the first CH game is a Sumo game. There is the debut of Banprekid and Great Raimon. It's the only one with Super Sentai, with the main robots from Flashman, Liveman, Turboranger, Fiveman and a bad guy from Bioman.

-The first 2 Battle Dodgeballs had the Mazinger trio and Getter;

-SD Hero Soukessen had Metalder, Shaider and Jiban as playable 'Metal Hero Side', aside from the usual Rider/Ultra/Gundam cast.

-Battle Baseball and Battle Soccer are the only ones with Godzilla.

-Battle Dodgeball 3 comes bundled with Great Battle Full Blast.

-Tokusatsu Bouken Katsugeki Super Hero Retsuden, Super Hero Sakusen: Daidaru no Yabou and Charinko Hero contained Tokusatsu series only, no Gundam.

>>14699417
Is Free Electron Cannon from ACE2

I don't remember much of that game since the last time I played it was the year it was released.

>>14699380
You can use Discutter with chain for twin enemies . Not the best solution, but pretty confy if you considere the after movement.

>>14699432
The Free Electron Cannon is basically the Guardian System from ACE 2.

>>14699428
>-Battle Dodgeball 3 comes bundled with Great Battle Full Blast.

I feel sorry for BD3, it had to be bundled with a game it was actually better than.

>>14699217
That brings up an interesting question though, that I've been thinking about. If they made another Tokusatsu Taisen, what kind of cast list would it have? Aside from the Kamen Riders, the Sentais and the Ultramen, my best guess would probably be a Garo, Toku Spiderman if they could get that license, that live action Patlabor and some others I'm probably not familiar with. I'm not super into Toku so I don't know a whole lot but it's fun to think about the possibilities.

>>14699434
Well, the main reason I wish Cybuster had an ALL was so it would work in conjunction with other units that have ALLs. There are quite a few units with mid to long-range ALLs and short-range finishers. Cybuster would work well with any of those.

>>14699419
It's specifically mentioned in masouKishin 2 when they found what remains of the other units and explain that the Cybuster, for better or for worse, was inspired to them. If then, in Coffin, they denied it, it's another thing.

>>14699407
With better robots... sure.

>>14699474
I think her base mech is really nice, but it's due for an upgrade.

By the way, in case anyone wanted it again, here's the link for the First SRW rips (8 tracks)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/24hqqw2udodd4uq/The+First+Super+Robot+Wars.zip

going to be uploading to YT soon

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>>14699477
A mecha a bit generic, but Elicia theme is really nice.

>>14699496
Isn't that the one in the Pastebin?

>>14699503
Oh, you already added it?
I must've forgotten. Oops.
Well, thanks anyway.

I'm going to be ripping SD Battle Oozumou Heisei Hero Basho in a little while

>>14699511
>>Oh, you already added it?

Well you did rip it a few months ago Wildschwein

So the SD Battle blah blah blah's music is about 49 minutes long in total. I wonder what waits for me beyond
>>14699522
>a few months ago
time... sure does fly by, doesn't it?

>>14699531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz3uKcYWs5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXrJgMGMOIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI7w6_GIAXc

>>14699531
>time... sure does fly by, doesn't it?

Welcome to life my friend, I bid you good luck in doing this Chronological SRW series playthrough.

You did say you were gonna do this ages ago so it's nice to see you began to do it.

>>14699550
man, it feels like yesterday that I said that
I suppose working on other things does that to you

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>The SD game's music file is just 1 file containing all the tracks
Man it's gonna be a pain to sort through all this crap

>>14699574
What do you use to rip out the music?

>>14699574
Does the game just reference by offset or something? If so, you might be able to use that to do the splitting.

>>14699578
>>14699580
honestly I just go the lazy route and find one of the archives containing a shit load of nsf files and the like (seriously, shoutout to those guys, that must've taken quite a bit of time), and run it through a customized winamp stuff to make it easy on me
In this scenario, unlike all the other SRW nsf files, this one just digests the original file and returns it as one loaf, so while I'm not going to be ungrateful, I'm just saddened that my easy streak's gone away.

I just noticed Kyouske's ace in Moon Dwellers.

No wonder he hits like a truck when countering. I thought it was just because of Revenge

>>14699666
I just use some shady file extractor and then run those files through foobar and convert them to mp3.

>>14699678
the thing is, while that's a viable option, I like having the files as close to the original source as possible, so with nsf files, that's about as close to the raw code as you can get, meaning that as soon as it's processed through winamp and whatever custom plugin you use, it comes out sounding about the same as it would while the original game itself is being played

>>14699675
Gave me a good giggle, no wonder that trophy has his face.

>>14699690
>no wonder that trophy has his face.

and yet most players will likely get it on the prologue stage

Are there any seishins that don't exist that you think it should? Honestly I can't think of any.

>>14699795
There are a few from the old days that'd maybe be neat, things like Pressure or Explode, but those aside I can't think of too many outside of maybe one that provides a manner of defense to an ally (all of the spirits you can cast on allies have offensive or supporting utility, none defensive.)

>>14699795
-30 Will spirit

Zetsubou

>>14699795
For prevail and abnormal survivor users:
>Endure: unit is guaranteed to survive the next attack with at least 10 HP

>>14699805
Good point. What did Pressure and Explode did?

ok while I was typing this i remembered about Explode, isn't that just Allahu Akbar from Gundam Wing? You can just put that in a move.

>>14699820
That would doom Prevail-focused pilots if nothing else though.
Unless they're dodgy, have a decent barrier, or can Counter like it's nobody's business, they're guaranteed to die on the first enemy phase.