How fast is 2fast?

>>14640266

you opponent nevers gets to finish saying HAYAI

>Orange

TOO FAST

WAY TOO FAST

>>14640266
In the case of the OP webbum, the problem isn't speed, it's camera and presentation. The camera is swooping around all over and too close to the objectives that it's too hard for the audience to keep track of their positioning and what exactly they're doing. Same principles why so many movies and TV shows fail at action scenes.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEnL3ukPauM

Quick! Someone post webms of Voltes or Dunbine's lethargic "battle" scenes so we can all wank how it looks so much better than modern CG shit! Truly, the older an anime is the better. All modern shows are garbage and can't do anything right.

Am I fitting in yet?

>>14640315
Just wait on your own thread dude. You might get replies there.
>>14640281

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>>14640306
Would webm related be more to your liking perhaps?

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Why does Orange have to go fast all the time? Slower scenes can look pretty nice.

>>14640354
because Orange is full of hacks

>>14640339

Dunno what's bad about that, it actually feels like the combatants involved have weight to them instead of flitting around like supermen regardless of inertia.

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What is your favorite way of finishing off the final boss?

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>>14640266
When it's thrice the speed.

>>14640339
I will never not find Iron Harambe a hilarious design.

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>>14640421
I think it's pretty cool. It's certainly better than its later iterations.

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>>14640441
Why do gorilla mechs have such wide heads?

Those relatively skinny legs and feet are hilarious compared to just the forearms that are bigger than its main torso, I love it.]

>>14640421
>>14640441

I love it.

>>14640306
>Same principles why so many movies and TV shows fail at action scenes.

It's the opposite.
Orange films their fight scenes generally in one shot. Modern action scenes in movies use a superfluous amount of cuts to disguise the fact that they aren't actually hitting each other, while the fights themselves are more or less glorified acrobatics.
The west is widely lauded in this regard. Even Jackie Chan, for example, has criticized western cinematography for this.

>>14640359
> it actually feels like the combatants involved have weight to them instead of flitting around like supermen regardless of inertia.

Context is key.

It is much more fitting for Buff McLargehueg to move like a tank while Lanky Skinny BoosterBots fight with the Rolling Scissors.

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I like the fights in Kuromukuro. Good wrassling and you can tell what's actually happening. OPs webm, I don't know what the fuck's going on. I can't see the combatants trying to react or out think each other.

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What are some /m/ vidya where I can go FAST AS ALL FUCK

>>14643436

Not trying to badmouth the game or anything, but it doesn't even really look like the guy's dodging anything. He's just sorta buzzing around side to side while missiles explode in the distance.

But then again, it would probably be a load of BS if you had to constantly react at the speed your mech can move at.

>>14643427
You can tell what's happening in the other webm as well.
Meanwhile in your webm there is literally no reaction beyond the camera.
Five second mark and the impact between the arm and the blade causes no interaction between the katana-weilding mech. Distribution of force is also fucked considering that the mechs hand is applying force towards the hilt-end of the katana while the black mech is applying force to both ends of the katana. There should be a forward action being placed on the tip-end of hte katana.
Then at the seven second mark, even though a forward force is being applied by the mech, it doesn't properly fall forward in relation to the impeding force. Even if we are to assume that the the blade pushed the arm to the side, the reaction from the robot still doesn't coincide with that.
To say nothing of the weak overlapping action, especially in the running and sliding animation from the one second to the three second mark.
There are hardly any applied principles in this, and the ones that are applied are done so at the absolute bare minimum.

>>14643361
Large amounts of cuts is only one way an action scene can fail. Shoddy camera work can ruin a scene just as much as poor editing.

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Orange is king of gotta go fast 3DCG mecha animation. I just wish they'd zoom out the camera a bit more.

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When is the movie coming out?

this fast

https://youtu.be/ygKlHevC1L4?t=39s

>>14640266
After images with mass is too fast

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>>14640266
Ask Guld

>>14647778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osEBCVJ-i_Q

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>>14640266

What are some shows with good CG action?

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Imma dump some Oranges here.

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>>14649877
Akito episode 1 always looked the best to me. It's probably because the PS2 tier backgrounds weren't really noticeable.

>>14640266
>How fast is 2fast

From moon to Earth around 2 minute

>>14649870
>>14649913
Are all of these from Majestic Prince? Mecha gymnastics is something I've never seen before.

>>14643361
Jackie Chan also talks about how you actually overlay some of the same frames from different scenes to make the punches look more realistic and less like lightning-fast jabs that don't make contact.
>>14643463
He is technically dodging, he's just moving fast enough that things aimed at him end up way far away. A lot of those are unguided missiles.

>>14651245
Read the filenames.

>>14651286
There's no anime called Akito or Lancelot under Orange's production listing on MAL.

3D mecha is finally starting to not look like garbage. The motion stretching/blurring/whatever the fuck they are doing to make it look more kinetic is solid.

Are any of these shows good? Is this the studio that made Code Geass (just going by the character designs)??

Fake Physics corrupting healthy minds.

>>14651364
Yeah, now instead of a stilted mess of animation, we get an amorphous bloblike mess of animation!

Sometimes I think people are just easily wooed by things going fast.

>>14651384
oh please, just look at something like the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games vs. the garbage they made before that. the "blob" can go a long way in emphasizing fluid motion, they don't even need to be going that fast. the point is that it looks more like animation and animation looks better.

too bad when everything slows down in these mech shows it still looks like a pile of shit episode of Reboot. until they can make that look like it was drawn i guess the war will never end

>>14651398
>relating game cgi to anime cgi

Anon, the visual continuum is used to express two distinctly different things between those two media. Gameplay visuals and the need to convey what an action under your control looks like is not to be compared with the narrative told through visuals, where the lack of control over events means you're further detached from the unspoken narrative, requiring a greater amount of information be conveyed through either visuals or dialog to compensate.

Clusterfuck animations can work in a game, you know they occur as a result of a certain input, cause and effect. In a tv show it's a recipe for headache requiring repeat rewatches (imagine what it's like for anyone who doesn't torrent or dvr their stuff, hell even digital distribution has input latency problems which make simple pause-rewind-replay a hassle) just to comprehend a given scene.

>>14651437
I'm just talking specifically about the blurring and blobbing effect being added to CG movement. Those ninja storm games have plenty of cutscenes and they look great; in motion they look even better than the show did 99% of the time.

If you're talking about doing too much at once and having tons and tons of fast movement, then that's another subject and sure it can get retarded.

I actually like most of the fights in Majestic Prince. I find that too many CG mecha scenes don't try to utilize dynamic camera angles. There are some shows where basically every cut is framed the exact same way. It's something that's a lot less common now though.

>>14651364
Majestic Prince is really average. Very inoffensive and run of the mill.

>>14640394
Shooting them with their own gun.
Either that or [the team] combo womboing their ass with signature style.

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>/m/ trying their very hardest o hate on 3DCG that they'll ntipick everything to oblivion

2D MECHA FOR LIFE!

>>14651566
mother of god did they really do this to IBO

>>14651566
YEARTT

>>14651543
>either the first opening or ending theme starts playing
>the finishing blow is some twist on the mech's most iconic attack

It's so predictable, yet I fucking love it when things come full circle like that.

>>14651600
Yup
The more I think about IBO the more I realize that it was more of an experiment.
To see how cheaply they can make a series, how many shorcuts they can make in animation and budget friendly changes to the script they can get away with.

>>14640266

Are you a stain in your suit or chair?

If no, you can go faster.

>>14651874
>>either the first opening or ending theme starts playing
>tfw no Shangri-la (2015)
I was sad.

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https://youtu.be/iPfE_IXAcVk

Until your thrusters explode

>>14651893
Guld pls.

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>>14652015

>>14651493
>Majestic Prince is really average. Very inoffensive and run of the mill.

Its concept is average and run of the mill. But concepts don't matter as much as execution, and MJP's execution was very good.

I prefer it much more to the two other mecha anime that were airing at the same time.

>>14652032
I really don't see how spincamera makes for very good execution.

This narrative really needs to be nipped in the bud.

>>14647778
Guld: "feel my pain..."

>>14652032
MJP is a very average show. Being average doesn't mean it's bad.

>>14651331
Code Geas.
>>14652009
I really want to see what Omega 1 would be capable with inertia storage and EXGear.

>>14652136
>Being average doesn't mean it's bad.
>>14645028

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I can't believe this thread got this far without this being posted.

>>14652936
We really didn't need another webbum of Orange garbage, though.

But thanks for another trip into the spin zone.

>>14652951
>But thanks for another trip into the spin zone.

There are 2d fighters that have more rotation on this scene. Probably the only issue I have with this scene is the camera is super close in, but you can at least see the focus of the shot due to lack of shakey cam.

>>14652136
Honestly it felt like a throwback to something out of the 90s where you could slow burn.

But it it was the epitome of not doing things wrong...unlike Gargantia and Valvrave.

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MAXIMUM BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

>>14652936
Jesus, they did him prison style.

>>14653475
Someone got me to watch a few episodes of Gargantia. I couldn't believe that someone would release something meant to be viewed by the public with CGI that atrocious.

>>14653558
It's missing the part where it gets orbital beamed twice.

>>14653541

He's not even aiming at anything.

>>14640315
It does look better though.

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Can we all take a minute to slow down here?

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>>14653985

Too bad they apparently live in a universe without physics.

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あなた達はメックにそんな戦闘シーンを望んでいるのか?実写でやると予算がトンデモない事ななるぞ

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>>14654036
Yet another disappointment to add to the list. /v/ has it rough these days.

SANIC
SONIC
SUNIC
SENIC

I think Macross is worse than MJP when it comes to cameras Anytime someone launches missiles is just a headache to watch.

>CLOSE
>FAR
>FAST FAST FAST
>IM HERE IM THERE IM IN YOUR FACE
>NOW IM AROUND THIS EXPLOSION
>CLOSE
>FAR
>WE MADE IT RRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAGH
>You're turn now enemy-san!

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>>14654093

Seems justified in this case. There's no other way to really emphasize how sanic fast these jets are: If you were to do an Itano Circus from afar, you simply wouldn't be able to see much of what's going on and the clouds/stars aren't a very good reference point on much distance they're covering when the skies are so vast.

>>14653475
>But it it was the epitome of not doing things wrong...unlike Gargantia and Valvrave.

You can tell Majestic Pissants have nothing to say about their show by how they always come back to sniping their far better contemporaries for daring to actually have something happen.

>>14653475
How can you do anything wrong when you don't do anything to begin with?

>>14653475
>lack of shakey cam.
You're kidding, right? The camera is downright spastic in parts of that scene.

I like most of Orange's work, but it's clear that MJP was made before they learned how to rein in their camera-juggling tendencies. I liked the show overall, but that put a noticeable dent in my enjoyment of the action scenes.

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>>14654203
>>14654209
Better to play it safe and execute it well enough than to take a somewhat original concept and squander its potential with shoddy writing, unlikable characters, and inane plot twists.

>>14654259
Too bad the execution was terrible with predictable writing, characters flatter than an ironing board, and no plot whatsoever.

>>14654259
>better to do nothing than to risk my feefees getting hurt

Ayy
Lmao

>>14654265
What? Gargantia because I agree?

>>14654203
But it did have things happen.

>>14654337
>>14654265
>>14654270
>>14654344
These are some well articulated and thought out replies you guys got going on here. Totally not a step below YouTube comments.