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>The song of the wind reverbates on Al Shahal, most of the population fall into a comatose state. At that time, Kaname, Reina and Makina who were caught infiltrating the medical ship, turn over the path that the tactical tactical sound unit "walkure" has taken. From it's formation to it's debut, and then the future awaits them is --
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6 or 7 eps left
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>>14637985

I doubt it. Even if you include episode 21 in the number left it's more likely to be 6 episodes left, max (26 total), with 4 (24 total) or 5 (25 total) as an outside possibility, not 7 (27 total) max.
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What is the lewdest macross song and why is it ikenai borderline?
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>>14638265
its probably ichido dake no koi nara actually
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>>14638265
>>14638333

idol talk has porn snippets in it senpaitachi.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym0IM_n29L8
The Siegfried has some unique engineering going on.
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>>14638975

It looks pretty darned nice. But I'm hoping they'll consider bringing the VF-31 to the Hi-Metal R line not too long after, because I cannot be arsed with a stickerfest kit or the DX Chogokin's insane prices either...
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>>14638136
Each BD have 3 episodes.
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>>14639966
and there is 9 BD so it should be 27 unless they put some OAV in the last one or only 2 ep.
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How much money do you think it costs them to make each episode of Delta? Can they break even?
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>>14639966
>>14639970

The rest of them having 3 doesn't mean the last will have 3 because it's entirely plausible the last would have 2 and maybe some extras to pad it, but even that's unnecessary. Final discs can and do have less episodes. It's unlikely to be 27 because giving one show 27 episodes means the show has to buy more time on television and the following show can only have 25 episodes max.
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>>14640042
>>14640029
they made a lot of money thanks to Delta. (at the 9th position -->508 million yen)
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>>14640066
in one month.

>How much money do you think it costs them to make each episode
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/10/30-1/how-much-does-one-episode-of-anime-cost-to-make
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-08-13/anime-insiders-share-how-much-producing-a-season-costs/.91536
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>>14640069
So, it sits comfortably within a success margin.
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>>14640189
yeah, there is still a lot of things/Merchandise coming.
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>>14637991
>yfw the episode 21 end on this again and you have to wait another week in order to know about her
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D--eVxaLF6c
The nostalgia is strong in this amv.
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>>14642237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuXwG89qqoc
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The Draaken kit doesn't look too bad without decals.
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>>14642378

Any reviews up yet for the tomytec kits?
Pretty curious to see how a new 3rd party design is going to turn out honestly. Only seen runner pics so far though.
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>>14642237
The best one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YONMhXxB6C0
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>>14644260
Zero Dogfights were gorgeous.
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>>14644273
Sometimes. The shifts between 2D animation and CGI were jarring at times.
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>>14640877
VF-31A
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>>14644327
>>14640877
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>>14644330
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>>14637980
>An entire episode is about how Walkure just talk about how they broke NUNS cybersecurity
This is bullshit. What a waste of a Macross series. Frontier never had an episode where literally nothing happened.
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>>14644351
>panty episode
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>>14644351
It had two exposition episodes right before the finale. I prefer them coming now, leaving 5 episodes, rather than 2
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>>14644348
Did we get a single Dogfight after Messer's death? Idon't remember.
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>>14644360

> episode
> not a joke sequence lasting a few minutes
> in an episode that introduces Ai among other things

It as never an episode, so let's not pretend it was. I don't even care about your argument with the other about Delta, I just get annoyed when people try to misrepresent that one episode like the only thing that happened was a long panty joke. That whole sequence doesn't even have any fan service.
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>>14644351
They'll probably get saved by Mikumo and Kaname if Mikumo doesn't go full retard/Edge.
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When will Kawamori reboot Macross? He won't go anywere by rebooting the same setting and stuff every 5 years. He needs new fresh ideas.
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>>14644394
>Mikumo doesn't go full retard/Edge.

You know very well this is going to happen. She's been consistently written as a pretentious character for so long, they're only going to build on that pretentiousness rather than drop it.
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>>14644378
Hayate vs Keith
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>>14644382
It was 8 minutes of her tracking down her underwear and the rest of the episode was Sheryl doing high school shit with QUALITY. Eat a dick.
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>>14644505

It was 3 minutes actually, and about half of that was taken up with cut aways to Ranka talking to her manager about a job she had any Leon being mysterious on the phone with someone else. Sheryl did go to Alto's school, but there wasn't actually much focus on the school part and more on piloting lessons using an EX-Gear among other things.
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>>14644411
He doesn't care. He prefers doing new original show. He's going one next year with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np0gCP-YNpQ
http://www.project-the-next.com/
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>>14644564
When was his last success?
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>>14644567
Frontier. Delta is making a good amount of money too. Not quite as much as Frontier did but still pretty damn well.
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>>14644564
This one is airing internationally on youtube like Gundam. It seems like china funded a part of it.
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>>14644315

yes and the speed was too much at times but that's only been made much worse in Frontier and Delta.
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>>14644572
And since Frontier, there has been Basquash, Evol, AKB, and Nobunaga. It's not exactly a good track record.
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>>14644564
It looks like Kawamori is deeply involved in this. It's going to be shit.
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>>14644583
I'd agree about Frontier but the speed has been slowed down quite a bit in Delta.
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>>14644588
Basquash! was good until the director got fired
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>>14644595
Is that what happened?
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The real question is, where did all the missiles go? Gun fighting is what really makes Delta's action boring, and missile swarms are sort of what this franchise is known for.
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-10/basquash-director-shin-itagaki-reportedly-replaced

Itagaki Shin was fired from the director of "Basquash!". The official website of the anime indicated that the new director was Sato Eiichi. Hirata said the production staff of Basquash were largely reorganized from the episode 9 and Hirata himself also had to leave the team by the end of May.
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>>14644614
Kawamori wanted more gun action I guess.
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>>14644614
Stealth or some shit is what the novels, but it's probably because they're too cheap.
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>>14644615
>>14644597
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>>14644629
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>14644619
>Kawamori wanted more gun action I guess.

More likely the money was very tight so no budget for loads of itano circus. That shit is costly to animate. Delta has low quality animation, worse than Frontier.
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>>14644667
It really doesn't. I think you're forgetting how bad Frontier's character animation could get.
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>>14644667
>worse than Frontier.
You lost all credibility. Frontier was worse when it was airing on TV. I'm surprised to see this. Is it your first time watchin a Satelight's series while it's airing?
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Why a minor character was promoted with 2 main character?
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>>14644706
Because the execs wouldn't let Kawamori take the triangles out entirely, so he had to trick people into thinking that there might be one.
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>>14644706
>Mikumo Guynmer.
It's like they do it on purpose.
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>>14644718
Can we blame the execs for the second half?
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>>14644728
No, blame Kawamori and the writers. They chose to do a shitty job rather than try to adapt the story in any meaningful way.
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New episode in 54min from now: vaughnlive.tv/neetball
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Do the Delta blu-rays look substantially better?
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>>14644615
I wonder if he was fired because he tried to defy Kawamori.
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>>14644706

Hahaha
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>>14644675
>>14644676
I'm reminded of episode 8, or that episode where Brera fights that blue winged cat thing.
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>>14644790
The three first episodes looked awesome to begin with, so there's no huge difference
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>>14644840
This will be fixed.
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>>14644821
I only watched the blu rays, is it possible that scene was even worse during the TV run?
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>>14644847
Yes, its Satelight.
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So what was up with last week's preview pic of Mikumo standing around surrounded by gold fold shit? Did she break out of th etube or was that in the flashback and the episode is just everyone sitting in jail?
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>>14644865
It's supposed to happen in this episode. I bet it will end there and everyone will rage again because of the cliffhanger.

I will be a bit mad about it if it's true.
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>>14644847
I want to remember being disappointed in my blu rays that it didn't improve enough from the TV. But it's been 8 years.
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>>14644843
Yes, I would think so too. I don't see how that pertains to my statement though.
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>>14644854
>its Satelight.
Sometimes, it's funny like with Symphogear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRhyNs-WJos
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http://live.bilibili.com/10112
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>>14644706
>such a funny joke. Lets keep posting it a thousand times more
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Flashback episode
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>>14644961
Are you not entertained by that retard?
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>>14644980
Walkure's flashback
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Shit episode?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11044685
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>>14645020
>I didn't like the episode
>Let's make a poll to prove my point
Fuck off retard.
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>>14645043
Take your pills.
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>>14645054
End yourself. The show is good and it's doing better than most of the show airing from spring and summer >>14640029
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>>14645020
>more no than Yes
I'm good. Stay mad those who say no.
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>>14645064
Take. Your. Pills. Literally, do it. And calm down.
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>>14645071
>>14645064
>>14645043
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>>14645077
Pills?
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>>14645077
Don't reply to shitposter
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>>14645070
>13 no
>6 yes
not very good
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>>14645107
How is that relevant to Macross Delta which successful?
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>>14645120
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>>14645114
Not at this rate.
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wtf, Walkure had another idol? How come no one mentioned this in the show until now?
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>>14645128
Because it wasn't important.
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>>14645127
you're talking no-sense as if this shitty matters.
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>>14645142
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>>14645139

Walkure is the biggest musical group in the entire galaxy, you would think there would be someone who was curious about what happened to the white haired idol who probably died or whatever.

I mean they could have at least HINTED at it.
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>>14645142
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>>14645153
>>14645151
Irrelevant to the plot. They've only became popular in the entire galaxy after Mikumo joined. It's just 2 members who couldn't handle it.
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>>14645156
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>>14645156

Are you really telling me that sometime during the auditions or whatever they couldn't have put in a throwaway line about how Walkure was bigger but two of them couldn't handle it? It would have helped because it would have made it even more clear early on that this is a punishing job.
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>>14645163
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>>14645128
It's probably like the Fire Bomber bassist before Mylene, that we never knew anything about (other than pic related, one shot of her leaving) and wasn't important anyway since the band only took off after her departure. You know, the Pete Best.
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>>14645168
They couldn't handle while being a member of Walkure. They're aware of that.
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there were two? i only see the blond chick
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>>14645189

What the hell is wrong with her ears?
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>>14645192
public ridicule was why she left
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>>14645193
>Ghost-style mono-eye visor
My dick.
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>>14645192
Ragnan trait, I guess?
Look at her elbows.
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>>14645193
>>14645192
Ragnan like Chuck (The brown dude if you forgot him)
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What was their VF back then? Still the VF-31?
Can't see shit.
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>>14645206
Looks like VF-31A Kairos, aka good-looking one.
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>>14645207
Wait, Heinz is a boy?
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where's mikumo and kaname currently during this? still in the tube room?
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>>14645220
>>14645211
They got out thanks to Mikumo who is aware that she is a clone.

Raw is out http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=842529
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>>14645252
<--- Next episode

it's a slow episode and sometimes interesting.
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>>14645204
The delicous brown girl should have been there all the time.
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>>14645258
>hayate and Mikumo interacting for the 1st time after 21 episodes.
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>>14645228

A good chunk of humans are a clone of a survivor of Space War I.
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>>14645120
>>14645142
>>14645183
She reminds me of her.
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The story was boring and almost didn't move at all. I blame the writer and Kawamori for not making this exciting.
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>>14645326
They could've made the series shorter than 26 episodes instead of dragging this.
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>>14645326
They could've give us some windie backstory instead of soltrash episodes.
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>>14645341

But we've already had that, though.
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>>14645341
Walkure's flash back is something they should do though.
Windie backstory is for episode 23
Episode 22 is about Freyja recovering her voice thanks to Mikumo and Hayate or something like that. It's supposed to be Freyja's big moment.
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>>14645350
>recovering her voice thanks
Not recovering but she will sing. That's what i meant.
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>>14645350
> Episode 22 is about Freyja recovering her voice thanks to Mikumo and Hayate or something like that. It's supposed to be Freyja's big moment.
More waifubaiting? What about the rest of the cast?
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>>14645361
What do you mean by Waifubaiting? She's recovering from what Isis said about her songs being a weapon. I'm hoping for some mecha battle for that. The title is "Extreme Brave"
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>>14645361
>What about the rest of the cast?
There is no Freyja in the episode 21.
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I wonder if there will be a movie version.
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Raws out?
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>>14645378
>I'm hoping for some mecha battle for that.
Walkure and Delta Platoon's next mission is on Alfaheim. It's will in the next episode so there is definitively some action. They've the advantage this time i think since Heinz seems to be out of this.
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>>14645447
>>14645228
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>>14645456
>It's will
it will be in the next episode*
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>>14645411

I heard in the commentary for Macross Zero there was supposed to be a movie edition. I'm pretty sure Delta will get one.
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>>14640029

What am I looking at here? Are these supposed to be decent numbers for Delta?
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>>14645627
more than decent and it's only the beginning.
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>>14645627
>Macross narrowly pulled in more revenue that month than Gundam

Yeah, perhaps they are.
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>>14645653

What are the categories for?
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>>14645653
>no running Gundam TV series
My sides.
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>>14645685
So? Did you think I was suggesting it was a bigger franchise than Gundam? Of course I'm not. It's tiny by comparison. But its doing well enough to beat the giant when the giant is dormant.
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My gods, Arad is actually doing something.
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>>14645635
>>14645627
This >>14640029 doesn't count only Delta, it's for the whole Macross franchise but they're obviously making money thanks to delta right now.

>>14645655
>>14645653
It's the monthly Oricon franchise sales for July 2016. This means anything they track:
>disk(bd/dvd) sales
>manga/light novel/Fanbook/databook/Guidebook etc sales
>CD single (Op/Ed) and album sales

They don't track the merchandise sales (that's why Gundam isn't 1st in the list), licensing/streaming fees, games and so on, only the books/CD/Disk sales


>>14645685
For July 2016, there was the Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky Movie sales, the OP/ED Cd sales for Unircorn RE: TV series, the volume 08 of IBO Gundam as major sales because they came out in this month and Gundam The orgin vol.3 was still ranking in the top 20.

For macross, it's mostly the 1st album + the 1st BD of the anime sales. The 1st OP/ED was still ranking too.

They were also both selling (not as much) BD/dvd/CD/Books of their previous series. I don't know if there was any major book for both.
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>>14645714

Wait, what? Next you'll be telling me Chuck did something. What did Arad do out of interest?
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>>14645770
>Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky Movie sales
That was released in June. The only releases counted are Unicorn RE: TV OP and the 8th volume of IBO
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>>14645848
Na,
weekly Blu-ray and DVD rankings for July 25 - 31

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Blu-ray
*1. 36,018 36,018 Kizumonogatari I: Tekketsu-hen Limited Edition
*2. 16,630 16,630 Osomatsu-san Vol.7 Limited Edition
>*3. 15,494 15,494 Kidou Senshi Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky
*4. *7,986 *7,986 Joker Game Blu-ray BOX Vol.1
*5. *7,547 *7,547 Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo! Vol.5 Limited Edition
*6. *6,799 *6,799 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Vol.2
*7. *6,728 *6,728 High School Fleet Vol.2 Limited Edition
*8. *6,254 *6,254 JoJo no Kimyou na Bouken: Diamond wa Kudakenai Vol.2 Limited Edition
*9. *4,235 *4,235 Starmyu OVA Vol.1
10. *3,806 *3,806 Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri Vol.11 Limited Edition

11. *3,031 *3,031 Gintama° Vol.13 Limited Edition
12. *1,952 *1,952 Kizumonogatari I: Tekketsu-hen
13. *1,809 10,551 Macross Δ Vol.1 Special Limited Edition
14. *1,720 *1,720 Bungou Stray Dogs Vol.2 Limited Edition
15. *1,603 16,245 HighSpeed!: Free! Starting Days Limited Edition
16. *1,592 *1,592 Ushio to Tora Vol.11
17. *1,504 *1,504 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd Season Vol.2 Limited Edition
18. *1,368 *1,368 Durarara!!x2 Ketsu Vol.6 Limited Edition
19. *1,302 *1,302 Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut Vol.5
(cut-off 1,302)

>DVD
*1. 18,132 18,132 Osomatsu-san Vol.7 Limited Edition
>*2. *3,943 *3,943 Kidou Senshi Gundam Thunderbolt: December Sky
*3. *3,689 *3,689 Kizumonogatari I: Tekketsu-hen

Etc
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>>14645770
None of those are new TV series you fucking idiot.
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>>14645881
Who care if they're new TV series or not?
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Did something happen in this episode?
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>>14645910
>>14645790
Arad was actually fighting in flashback. It was amazing.
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>>14645941
What about that girl called Mirage?
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>>14646103
No. No screentime for her. And that Arad battle was half a minute anyway.
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Mirage is the Shinn Asuka of Malcross Delta.
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>>14646103
Who gives a shit about her?
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>>14646142
I started watching this show for her. I can't believe she is the Jenius with the least screentime.
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>>14646171
There is that moment in episode 03 where she was thinking about her family legacy. No one give a shit about it now.
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>>14646194
>episode 03
or 2, i don't remember it.
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>>14646103
>What about that girl called Mirage?

She left a long time ago
Joking aside : there is a moment at the beginning of the episode where Freyja looks at Mirage like a love rival. Fucking shit, 18+ episodes where Freyja has only eyes for Hayate and just because of last episode she ends up having an idiot useless rival. This seals the fact Delta is fucking shit. I can't believe it.
I don't think a movie can improve this shitfest.
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>>14646171
Fixed that for you.
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>>14646333
Mikumo is literally plotdevice-tier.
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>>14646366
Still better than Mirage
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>>14646481
Who cares, concept and writing are abysmal. At least mech designs are still good.
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>>14646366
It's better like this?

>>14646498
Songs are good too.
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>>14646548
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show has gone down hill since Messer was killed

none of the characters are interesting and Delta squadron is next to useless and Arad is literally the worst CO in franchise history

Keith is almost Jesus Yamato

with only a few episodes left they are going to rush a conclusion and have some vague ending to not anger the shipper camps

just give me my DX toys already and I can be done with this series already
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What Mikumo said this ep? That she is a man? That Mirage sucks?
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>>14646583
Literally perfect
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>>14646643
The two shipper camps in this show are not in competition with each others.
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>>14646643
Windermere is a race consisting of fucking Jesuses.
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>>14646704
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Mikumo is 3 yo.
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>>14646643
>vague ending
Lolno

This episode showed that singing brings about white scars and cells

Freyja will sing next episode and get those same stuff and will die offscreen in the end
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>>14646643

I'm actually legitimately worried that they're going to stall off the Windmere war until they make an S2. I mean, wasn't there a statement early on in the show's production saying that "Even if the show finishes, that won't necessarily be the end of the story" or some shit?

But then again, they did lie to us pretty badly in saying there wouldn't be much devoted to the character's free time...
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>>14646815

There are people on that poster that aren't Freyja, therefor it's not actually final.
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>>14646963
Walkure have a lot of screentime.
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>>14646957
>implying S2 will save this shitshow

Kawamori is also doing another anime since weeks ago
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>>14646944
>Freyja will sing next episode and get those same stuff and will die offscreen in the end
>Implying she will not be saved.

>>14646920
Mikumo is whether the Star singer herself or a clone of the star singer (that what she's thinking).
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>>14646980
>shitshow
Take that back
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>>14646992
This show is crap. The fact that next episode is absolutely nothing either, just more "investigations" is proof that the writers have no idea how to build tension and make things interesting.
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>>14646980
>implying S2 will save this shitshow

That's exactly why the prospect of an S2 worries me so much. Kawamori just won't ever learn his lesson no matter what.
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>>14647003
>The fact that next episode is absolutely nothing either
Na, you're full of shit. You know nothing about the next episode.
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>>14647012
Kawamori is barely involved in Macross Delta.
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>15 seconds of Action scene
JUST
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>>14647054
And a whopping few minutes of plot moving forward. Did you not like cute girls flashback that should have happened some 5 episodes ago? Too bad for you.
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>>14647085
I admit that i liked Rei better in the flashback. What went wrong with her hair?
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>>14647100
Everything. They were using actual military uniforms back then. I guess that was reasonable. Why the fuck would you throw your precious singers on the battlefield is the other question,
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>>14647034
Based on previous episodes a human being can reasonably predict the pacing of the episode, whether or not major mysteries will be answered, if there will be continued vacillation on the romance front, if the episode will be paced well, if the episode will be exciting, and whether the absolutely superfluous Windemere Coup subplot will continue.
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>>14647125

Because if they're not on the battlefield the singing doesn't do anything.
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>>14647085
>5 episodes ago
>Episode 16
But that would've conflicted with the entire Hayate x Freyja romance! There are no parallels between the relationship that built up between the members of Walkure and Hayate and Freyja's love, not to mention Mirage and Hayate's friendship.
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>>14647143
Then throw them in some sort of howering armored platform, for fucks sake. Fucking japs if you try to make it somewhat believeable, try that thing called common sense.
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>>14647225

Who's the purple haired guy below Millia on the Zentradi side?
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>>14647249
Millia's mentor.
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>>14647249
>the purple haired guy
>guys
kek
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>>14647279

Oh, was she Kamjin's woman? The one he promised to "culture" when he got back? I kind if figured it might be a woman since the red seemed a little enlarged like a bust but went with guy for the sake of it. I don't remember her from the series regardless, especially the fact she was Millia's mentor.
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>>14640055
It got confirmed 26 episodes today.
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>>14647054
I was laughing at it. 15 seconds of action by Arad. And I can't remember what he does in battles.
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>>14647437

Commands, which kind of clashed with Messer anyways, since Messer was basically the flight commander, supervised their training, watched their performances to look for any weaknesses and so on - which should really be Arad's job.
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>>14647457
No wonder that I can't remember what Arad does most of the time.
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"i'm the worst Jenius"
"i'm the worst Jenius"
"i'm the worst Jenius"
"I can't even pilot a VF proprely"
"I'm irrelevant most of the time"
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>>14647437
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>/m/ loving Delta during it's initial airing
>a few mediocre slow episodes and all of a sudden it's trash and Kawamori deserves to die
Christ.
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>>14647749

She was more tolerable than Hayate and Freyja moping about last episode at least.
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>>14647794
>few
if by a few you mean most of the 2nd cour sure
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>>14647794
Welcome to 4chan, where any problem no matter how small is an irredeemable flaw that the creator(s) need to commit suicide to atone for.
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Remember when you saw this and thought that bogue was going to be relevant later?
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>>14647870
>bogue was going to be relevant later?
Who?
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>>14647794

Delta got a lot of shitposting and hate during it's initial episodes. It died away after 3 or 4 episodes, but that appears to be more because a lot of people dropped away than because those episodes changed their mind.
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>>14647894
It died after the 1st/preview episode because of "muh macross was never about idolshit but a Manime".
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>>14647909
There was this shit pasta in every fukin thread
>Reminder that the previously realistic gritty pro-war masterpiece Macross has been degraded into "Idols in space", it has fallen to the otaku pandering market and instead of being a stalwart for us manime fans it's now closer to AKB0048. Remember to support Sunrise and the upcoming gundam to show japan we like our pro-war realistic space operas and wont stand for our cherished long running masterpieces to be savagely devalued like this. First it was Macross, Next it'll be LotGH unless you do the right thing.
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>>14647909

I'm pretty sure a lot of it was there during episode 2 as well at the least, but the archives are down and I'm too lazy to check it even if it were up so I'll bow to your knowledge. Regardless, /m/ didn't universally love Delta during it's initial airing and it did garner a lot of hate along with a lot of love.
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>>14645881
So delta is in fact doing poorly? That's good to know.
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>>14647976
Did you read the thread? It's a successfull show that's doing good.
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>>14647982
>It's a successfull show that's doing good.
Just like Cross Ange and A/Z right?
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>>14647989
It's doing way better because of the merchandise and Album/Single sales, especially the album sales.
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>>14647997
>especially the album sales.
Album/CD sales + Live concert.
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>>14647997
>merchandise
Is that even selling? The Siegs do nothing.
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> watched episode 20 a short while ago
> Hermann's son is in it

I'd say he's dead, but if they haven't killed off Casshim yet despite all his death flags or Theo and Xao for being completely superfluous Hermann will last until episode 25 at the very least.
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>>14648019
When i was trying to get one, It was getting sold out everytime they put some of it.
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>>14648019
Obviously, Macrossfan will try to get it. I don't know how much they've sold.
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>>14648021
>Implying anyone else will die before the finale

YOU KNOW DAMN WELL WHERE THIS SERIES IS HEADED.

Just replace the 'victory' part with a tie game or some shit.
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>>14648019
>http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOGDS-201583
>Out of print
This shit is expensive.
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>>14648036
I can't imagine anyone purchasing Chuck, Mirage, or Arad's shit.
>>14648058
Aren't those numbers always extremely limited?
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>>14648345
>Aren't those numbers always extremely limited?
Japanese collector toys are always in limited numbers. Sometimes stupidly limited. The DX line are popular, that's why you need to be there at the right moment while the website isn't hacked or down in order to hope getting one because everything can change in 3-4 min.
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>>14648345

People will buy Arad's because that's the plane Mikumo rides in, and people like Mikumo. Arad also has the Skull Leader decal. That alone is enough to move some product, even if he is a shitter.

I will buy Mirage's, because I think how she's been shat on all series long is hilarious and I want a piece of that.

People will buy Chuck to complete the set.
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>>14648345
VF-31S Siegfried (Arad) is out of print as well.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOGDS-190049
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>>14648373

Messer's is the only one I want, but I don't think I'll be lucky enough to grab one when it goes up.
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>>14648345
So mad.
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>>14647437
>>14647477

Is Arad the worst Skull Leader?
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>>14648562
I think that was intentional. Kaname kinda even distrusts him now. He also implied to do bad shit in Windermere
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>>14648562

hes just bad in general and terrible as a CO I said so earlier in the thread
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>>14648562
He is an antagonist. Screencap this.
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How do you get the "retail" subs for the Delta BDs to work? I'm using MPC, and enabling the retail subs just turns the subs off completely. So, I started up Aegisub, and it can't load the retail subs, either. Only the gg subs.
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>>14647158
>>14647158
They've been putting idols on protected platforms that amplify singing since SDF.
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>>14646992
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>>14648576
But it's justified. Windemere are crazy, megalomaniacal alien racists who want to rule the galaxy and kill humans. Arad and Johnson should've helped Hayate's dad.
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>>14647794
>A few
More like 14 episodes.
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>>14649410
4-5, 7-8, 11-12, 14-21?
i agree
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Remember how Mr. Birla was revealed in like episode 5 or so? Lady M isn't a character in Delta; she's just some words the Xaos characters strung together to cover up their plan to take over the galaxy with song.
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>>14649738
To be fair, 16 was okay from a relationship drama standpoint. And then they pulled back and decided to cram in a cliche fake love triangle until the final episode.
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>>14649807
Lady M is like Messer from Alfheim. Their next mission is on Alfheim.
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>>14647085
>Did you not like cute girls flashback that should have happened some 5 episodes ago?
I did. Fuck this whole show at this point just give me more of these two.
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>>14650133
The point is it what supposed to be a bunch episodes ago. And they should bring back military uniforms or something. And throw walkure into some kind of armored coffin, and make windies not retarded and shitton of other things to make Delta good.
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>>14647847
> Welcome to 4chan, where any problem no >matter how small is an irredeemable flaw that >the creator(s) need to commit suicide to atone >for.

You've got the wrong board, it's not /m/ on 4-chan, it's 2-chan that's the cesspit of vitriol and pure hate of anime authors. Nobody hates the Japanese industry more than fucking Japanese otakus when they're not being pandered to.
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>>14646481
>Still better than Mirage

Anything even a rock is better than Mirage at this point.
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>>14650187

> they should read my mil fiction if they want it to be good

I don't even like Delta any more but you're still operating under a delusion if you think Macross is or ever was military fiction. Having a war in your show doesn't not make it military fiction.
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>>14650133
I would have had the flashback happen in episode 14 and have something else happen in the first half of episode 21. It wasn't bad but it's a strange choice.
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>>14650402
It should have happen during that fanservice episode with the "My dickulture" meme.
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Is there any chance this will have more than 26ep? It will feel really rushed with only that amount of episodes.
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>>14651370
No. Its 26eps confirmed.
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>>14651370
Most likely a retelling for the 35th anniversary of Macross next year.
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>>14651427
They'd better hire someone competent to rewrite it.
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>>14651432
It will probably work better as a retelling movie. Less filler, better pace, Very good mecha action/Dogfights etc. I don't know if it can fix Mirage.
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>>14648581
the whole show is fucking terrible, you can't defend it at this point
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>>14651944
It's not. A few mediocre episodes does not make all the previous good episodes invalid.
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>>14651989
No, its really-really terrible. It has the shittiest writing imaginable. EVERYONE is retarded, windies, NUNS, Xaos, whatever. Its literally a show about MC and his cute singing waifu.
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Eroge nee-chan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOjfkYjbfCQ
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>>14651989

I think his point is that the show hasn't had many (if any) good episodes in his view. Personally I'd say it has had a few good episodes (though I don't know the episode numbers off hand), but that even in the first half there were only a couple and that the show has mostly been mediocre, rather than outright terrible.

It started out really strong in my opinion, and may finish strong, but a lot of the in between has been boring and even in the first half it was mostly boring but was on the receiving end of good faith built up from the opening episode and possibilities that made my perception of it stronger because I was assuming any episode now it'd start to do stuff with Arad or Mikumo or whoever, and that them being non entities at the start was okay because of it rather than that the show would defer on a lot of that for most of its run time in favor of two characters whose relationship I'm not remotely invested in.
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>>14652011
Yeah but don't think about it too hard.
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>>14652025
Considering most of the cast were canned in favour of Hayate and Freyja it won't end well. Maybe, JUST MAYBE there'll be a good final dogfights, but that's it.
>>14652029
Kawamori already ruined fucking EVOL with his waifuism, someone should sap him out of director's seat.
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>>14652035
Everything will be daijoubu anon.
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>>14652041
Any more of these edits?
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>>14652018
How does it feel to be a 16 yo girl in an idol group while being 10 y more older?
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>>14652046
One more. Just for you.
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>>14652058
Now i'm armed to the teeth for final episode. BUT if Sigur Valens will start falling on windie capital, it'll be the whole other kind of shitposting.
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>>14652065
Messer was interesting.
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>>14652065

>that awful pixelated impact point

They couldn't have had it melt, or something?
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>>14652065
>those ps2 graphics
>that flaccid everything
Fucking, worst death in Macross ever. Couldn't stop laughing.
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>>14652084
Satelight are a bunch of lazy bastards, more news at 11. But hey, as long as it sells.
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>>14652084
Maybe in the BD vol.4
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>>14652092
PREASO PURCHAZU ZA BRUUU RAYUS
ONEGAI
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>>14652084
Satelight is kinda ass when it comes to the texture work of their models.
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>>14652065
I swear Ace Combat 4 had better plane models back in 2001 and it ran on potato known as PS2.
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>>14652097
Look at the angular armor plate covering Drakken's cockpit. It looks so lame.
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>>14652111
Someone should get fired for using the low-poly model in a close-up sequence, then?
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>>14652111
Polygons are expensive senpai. Fuck mecha, push in the fifth idol.
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>>14652127
>someone
More like everyone. Its 2016 for fucks sake, why can't they suck bamco's dick enough to spare some Project ACES animators?
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>>14652137
I fucking love the draken transformation.
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>>14652165
SAABs are generally cool sempai. Movies should have something that looks akin to Gripen.
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>>14652145
Anon I'm pretty sure that the animation staff isn't the problem here.

It looks more like a decision made in the leadup to rendering.

You do realize rendering isn't instantaneous, right?
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>>14652165
Everyone loves the Draken.
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>>14652175
Oh look, these times when MC tried to create his own ace style or something.
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>>14652180
Its called 'no one probably fucking cared about mecha parts even back then'.
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>>14652187

>flying right up towards the sun and using one of the oldest tricks in the book to strafe a sub-par pilot

Not a very inventive style, it seems.
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>>14652201
At least he tried or something. He could have asked Messer to teach him some means of unconventional air combat. Be then there were songbuffs and Messer died.
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>>14652230
Who's that?
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>>14652230
He was still doing his retarded suicide runs. And killing mooks is not that cool considering NUNS are portrayed as an absolute retards.
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>>14652205
He mimicked Messer pretty well during asteroid field battle.
>>14652201
But very surprising from someone who few seconds before was falling to oblivion with every support subsystem turned off.
Really, anybody would be surprised. Catched off guard? Maybe not.
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>>14652278
>guy has a beam cannon armed and ready
>doesn't shoot it
Why. God i hate plot armor.
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>>14652065

Hoping it's touched up for the BD.
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>>14652302
There were like, two Itano Circus moments? 1st and 10th episodes, right?
>>14652312
They just have to.
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>>14652285
Beam cannons has beem shown as armament of low rate of fire. Using rapid firing weapoms they literally pinned Mirage in place. Her, in damaged plane and two fresh enemies, was out of options at that moment anyway. Also, Bellri was clearly stayed to be a rookie, lack of multitasking abilities is understandable.
Same with Hayate really - and everybody except for alpha leader were using armguns anyway.
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>>14652320
He literally had that beam cannon 100% armed and ready. Like, its really obvious plot armor. He was supposed to be trained KNIGHT, aka elite pilot.
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>>14652316
Yeah, reused animation.
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>>14652334
Holy fuck and that's the series that invented it. Now that's just fucking lazy.
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>>14652340
Preaso understandu
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>>14652328
Also a, what, fifteen?, boy in life and death situation. Then there is fact that Master Herman was watching over him, so overconvidence might also factored in.
I don't say it wasn't plot arnor - or rather writer's asspull but at least it was believeable.
>>14652340
Something something very effective jamming. Missiles are used so far against slow moving targest, usually Walküre or en masse, lile that Alpha&Beta salvo against Bogue and twins. It wasn't very effective.
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>>14652357
>very effective jamming
Its called 'missiles are costly to animate, they are moving so fast'. And that plot armor wasn't believable, he's a fucking elite soldier, he was trained that way.
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>>14652381
Too bad Elysion was used for one fight only. But at least Ernest and Papa Windermere had fun.
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>>14652381
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>>14648752
Anyone? This is the only reason I wanted the BD rips.
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>>14652527
What sub renderer are you using? Built-in MPC one? Also ask /g/ for that, /m/ is pretty dead in terms of macross discussion?
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>>14652538
Yeah, whatever MPC uses. Apparently, there's a problem because the retail subs are stored as images instead of text.
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>>14652648
What the fuck? Sleek japaneese way, never left me dissapointed.
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>>14652656
I can't seem to find a way to get them to show up, so I guess I'll just OCR the subs.
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>>14652648
Don't you have the "HDMV Embedded Subtitle" under the subtitles options? I clicked on that one and the retail subs started to appear on the video.
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>>14652724
I do, and when I select it, there are no subs.
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Oh hell. I knew it was going to be something silly. It just had to be.

Filters > LAV Splitter Source > Properties
>Enable Automatic Forced Subtitle Stream
DISABLE THAT SHIT

Now it works. The retail subs are super small, but they're there. I had no idea that menu was even there, and kept messing with Options > Subtitles.
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>>14653194
Good to hear you got them to work.
Also, what version of MPC are you using? I tried watching an episode on another PC with the latest MPC HC version and it seems it now auto-adjust the pgs subs and they look better.
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>>14653259
v1.7.8.162.
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>>14653274
Try with the latest one, 1.7.10 the subs looked better when I used that one.
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>>14644843
They don't need to fix it. It's not a keyframe. Do you want them to fix all the smears too?
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>>14653854
They will.
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Is wanting to see these capitol ships in action too much to ask? Hell, I'd settle for seeing Sv-262 launch sequence from the cool little assault carrier.
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>>14654826
You want mechas and ships? In Delta? Wrong show mate, everything in Delta is props for idols.
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