/srwg/ Super Robot Wars General #1084

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Been waiting and hoping I might catch the new thread before I had to go, for the sake of my usual insanity.

Welcome once again to SRW RNG! Now with an assortment of choices for you own flavor of randomization!

RNG Classic: 10 series in a roll. Good for starting off light.

RNG UX: 15 entries. A touch of risk to your rolls, it could lead to something strange and unique.

RNG V: 20 entries. Lots of potential, but could seriously crash and burn.

RNG Z3: 25 entries. For those who just want an absolute mess to laugh at!

Bonus RNG: Ask to OE your SRW and your list will be rolled a second time to determine which series (2-5 depending on your cast size) in it are condemned to the dreaded life of DLC.

>>14634047
That's one of the problems with the two part game thing for me. The first game feels like it's made obsolete by the second one (regardless of actual quality). Ot happened with Hakai and while I'm playing Tengoku now, I suspect that it's gonna happen with Jigoku.

>>14634065
Lets try to make a SRW UX2 with added DLC

>>14634065
SRW XXX, UX style

>>14633950
2019 with Neo Lamalice,Edax,Database,Balmar and whatever enemy faction L had
L was so forgetable I don't even know the MCs name

>>14634083
>3 portable debut

Only in bizarro srw

>>14634074
SRW UX2, UX-style and OE-ified, coming up!

怪獣総進撃 (Destroy All Monsters)
破邪大星ダンガイオー (Hyper Combat Unit Dangaioh)
赫炎のインガノック -What a beautiful people- (Sekien no Inganock -What a Beautiful People-) (DLC)
ソラトロボ -それからCODAへ- (Solatorobo: And Then, to CODA)
キディ・グレイド (Kiddy Grade)
機動戦士クロスボーンガンダム・鋼鉄の7人 (Mobile Suit Crossbone Gundam: Steel 7)
DETONATORオーガン (Detonator Orgun) (DLC)
OVERMANキングゲイナー (Metal Overman King Gainer)
蒼穹のファフナーEXODUS (Soukyuu no Fafner: Dead Aggressor - Exodus)
ACE COMBAT
雷弩機兵 ガイブレイブ (Ridegear Guybrave) (DLC)
超獣戦隊ライブマン (Choujuu Sentai Liveman)
ブレイブサーガ2 (漫画) (Brave Saga 2 Manga Originals)
アームドポリス バトライダー (Armed Police Batrider)
仮面ライダー (Kamen Rider)

>>14634065
Classic style, with DLC.

SRW EO

>>14634039
>it's the stage where you get Raijin-Oh

Forgot that it happened on that stage.

Even then, you've got a repair bot and a resupply bot, the latter of which is pretty good on its own in a fight, Masniper Z, Falsaber (also a decent ranged unit), and GaoGaiGar. And it's not like the enemies they set you up against are particularly strong or anything.

>>14634081
SRW XXX, UX-style, coming up!

遊撃警艦パトベセル~こちら首都圏上空青空署~ (Yuugeki Keikan Patvessel ~Kochira Shutoken Joukuu Aozorasho~)
仮面ライダーエグゼイド (Kamen Rider Ex-Aid)
バルドフォース (Baldr Force)
新世紀エヴァンゲリオン (Neon Genesis Evangelion)
黄雷のガクトゥーン (Gakthun of the Golden Lightning)
ロックマンDASH (Mega Man Legends)
マグネロボガキーン (Magne Robo Ga-Keen)
ビーストウォーズリターンズ (Beast Wars Returns)
NG騎士ラムネ&40 (NG Knight Ramune & 40)
ゲッターロボ飛焔 -THE EARTH SUICIDE- (Getter Robo Hien: The Earth Suicide)
機動戦士クロスボーン・ガンダム ゴースト (Mobile Suit Crossbone Gundam Ghost)
赤い光弾ジリオン (Akai Koudan Zillion)
帰ってきたウルトラマン (The Return of Ultraman)
マジンカイザー (Mazinkaiser)
ミラーマン (Mirrorman)

>>14634088
ah yes sorry
muh patterns

>>14634093
SRW EO, Classic-style with DLC, coming up!

キャプテン・アース (Captain Earth)
機動戦士ガンダム 鉄血のオルフェンズ月鋼 (Mobile Suit Gundam Iron-blooded Orphans: Steel Moon)
機動戦士クロスボーンガンダム・鋼鉄の7人 (Mobile Suit Crossbone Gundam: Steel 7) (DLC)
亜空電神サイヴァリオン (Akuudenshin Cyvarion)
超電磁マシーンボルテスⅤ (Choudenji Machine Voltes V) (DLC)
機動戦士ガンダム00 (Mobile Suit Gundam 00)
アルドノア・ゼロ (Aldnoah Zero)
星界の紋章 (Crest of the Stars)
第2次スーパーロボット大戦α (SRW Alpha 2)
鋼鉄のヴァンデッタ (Koutetsu no Vendetta)

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(Full) OGG anime WHEN?
2ndOG anime WHEN?
OGMD anime WHEN?
Beach Dwellers OVA by Silver Link WHEN?

>Faction name is GreAT

WAT

>>14634107
When we get animated Siege of Babel and Great-hen.

X will finish at the same time

>>14634117
SENTOU NO PURO DA ZE

>>14634102
I'm okay with this.

>>14634100
>>14634105
That is a human interface device I wouldn't mind plugging into.

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Oh hey, it's Arnie from UX

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GRANZON WAS A MISTAKE

finally got the brigandi in MD, its attack animations are so good
and it kill everything, permanent deploy

>>14634168
>>14634178

I don't know what to believe anymore.

finally got the brigandi in MD, its attack animations are alright
and it can kill things pretty well, I think I'm gonna use it pretty often

>tfw permabenching all of the Frontier units after L

fuck those boring overused shits

>>14634174
> Adding AB field to granzon
You... monster!

>>14634125
ora ora


ikuze nataku

>>14634174
>size: M
When will they learn?

>>14634174
>AB Field

??

Should I keep restarting stages in Z to get all the skill points? Some of this shit is really mostly about knowing the enemy spawns ahead of time and I don't want to play with a guide.

>do this in 4 turns
>do this in 7 turns
>by the way that is without the enemy's phase now
Where are all the comfy skillpoints that involve retreating bosses or "kill everything"?

>>14634195
It's not big enough to be L, it's smaller than Cybuster

>>14634185
One thing i would complain is how Brigandi's green lazer being homing and weaksauce in MD, while in J, they were straight and being spammed more.

>>14634174
SHUT THE FUCK UP

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Amara is cute

>>14634197
I think the only skillpoint I really had trouble with, even without knowing about enemy spawns, was that one fuckhuge stage where the different ZEUTH members first meet and you fight like every enemy faction one after another.

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>still complaining about Brigandi animation
>implying I watch animation after the first hour of the game

>>14634199
https://youtu.be/p0ui9b9IR1o?t=47s

compare 0:47 to MD 2:49
https://youtu.be/qyIohLnHZGQ?t=2m49s


https://youtu.be/zDcIjUkPL30?t=4m1s
4:01
Look at how BP stole Brigandi's attack animation and slapped it on Dea Blanche Neige instead of reusing the asset on brigandi again.

>>14634215
>complaining

Meme-ing would be the proper term here.

>>14634090
>Only Exodus returns
aam keeping my money!

>>14634215
>not watching animations against Bosses and whenever you will kill units

>>14633511
>Not even friends anymore

Brutal.

>>14634218
>HD filters

JUST

Just report the troll and his posts will be deleted and he'll be banned

Oh great the "Brigandi is horrible, boring, stiff, bland" guy is back.

>>14634244
WOW CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY AS BRIGANDI

>>14634145
I can't even begin to imagine how much wearing a long-sleeved shirt with no undershirt itches.

>>14634185
>low attack power
6900 isn't enough for you? What the fuck are you smoking?

>>14634222
If I'm going to play the game half a dozen times (at least), I'd rather only watch animations on the last 2 or so playthroughs. Otherwise it takes forfuckingever to get through.

ANIMUS OF OUR COMRADES
31
Such words, even I could...!
N O T H I N G N E W
KUROU AND JOEY FRIENDS FOR NO REASON
Bellzelute is the shittiest unit in the game with bland, stiff, boring animations
edit Akurasu
Die Granteed!
Terada says no Z in OG
*thunder and shit bro*
MORE LIKE INFINITE SHIT AM I RIGHT
Ne Plus Ultra
BUYERS REMORSE
I can't wait to play as Skrugg Will!
ATTACK/MAP EVENT ONRY
You are the... Fuck you!
Full Possession Cybuster can change reality by rewriting the Akashic Record
How was your day? YOU ARE FUCKING GAY
WRONG Tetsujin
THE SWORD OF GRUDGE BARUZAI
no ttgl no hope
THE TRUE POWER OF +200 Armor
Apotheosized Yaldabout
[NOT SKIP MOVIE]

>>14634237
I always assumed he was the guy who was spamming the MD screenshots trying out a different schtick.

Please drop Axis on this general

Brigandy hater will never do anything as beautiful as Brigandy, he can't even animate a stick man

Cunt whores like him will always be a cunt whore like his AIDS ridden cunt whore of a mother

i like the brigandi's animations

>>14634303
>>14634298
You're not even being subtle at this point

Brigandy has beautiful, smooth 60FPS animation, troll's trollfu is beyond weak

>>14634316
I want to have violent sex with Katina

>>14634325
>>14634319
Your samefagging is painfully obvious you know that right

Personally, I love the Brigandy (and the base Bellzelute too). The design hits a lot of the right notes for me. Definitely in my top 3 OG mechs.

>>14634327
Yes it's been like that since MD came out and this weak trolling started. Just report and ignore.

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>Brigandy hater with utter shit tastes

>>14634335
I would but considering how far up their asses the mods have their heads I'd probably be banned for false flagging

One for the road again, guys. I leave this thread with one RNG cast-list, Z3-flavored. Would anyone play it?

第2次スーパーロボット大戦Z (SRW Z2)
ヴァンドレッド (Vandread)
マグマックス (Magmax)
破裏拳ポリマー (Hurricane Polymar)
学園戦記ムリョウ (Record of School Wars Muryou)
ビーストウォーズネオ (Beast Wars Neo)
勇者王ガオガイガー (King of Braves GaoGaiGar)
サクラ大戦2~君、死にたもうことなかれ~ (Sakura Taisen 2: Kimi, Shinitamou koto Nakare)
美少女遊撃隊バトルスキッパー (Battle Skipper)
ビーストウォーズ 超生命体トランスフォーマー (Beast Wars: Transformers)
無敵鋼人ダイターン3 (Muteki Koujin Daitarn 3)
アクティヴレイド (Active Raid)
仮面ライダー響鬼 (Kamen Rider Hibiki)
機動戦士ガンダム 鉄血のオルフェンズ月鋼 (Mobile Suit Gundam Iron-blooded Orphans: Steel Moon)
完全勝利ダイテイオー (Kanzen Shouri Daiteioh)
ロックマンエグゼ (Mega Man Battle Network)
マクロス7 (Macross 7)
第3次スーパーロボット大戦 (SRW 3)
機動戦艦ナデシコ (Martian Successor Nadesico)
ARIEL
仮面ライダー龍騎 (Kamen Rider Ryuki)
逆転イッパツマン (Gyakuten Ippatsuman)
冒険!イクサー3 (Adventure! Iczer-3)
レガリア The Three Sacred Stars (Regalia: The Three Sacred Stars)
思春期美少女合体ロボ ジーマイン (Shishunki Bishoujo Gattai Robo Z-MIND)

Until the next thread game, my friends.

>Urobuchi is writing the 3DCG Godzilla anime

RIP in pieces /m/

>>14634344
No one cares about your shit tastes, everyone already ignores you and your shit opinions after your spam

STAY MAD, FAGGOT

>>14634363
GOOD, GOOD, LET THE BUTTHURT FLOW THROUGH YOU

>>14634363
>All I've done is provide my view.
>>14634239
>But Brigandi's bad animations are a fact, not an opinion.
>fact
>not an opinion

Get out.

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SRW When?

>>14634377
At this point it doesn't even matter if your samefagging or not. Still get out.

>>14634185
>low attack power.

It's one of the strongest Reals in the game - it beats HYPERION, mind, and ties Cerberus, amongst the ridiculous number of other things it beats - and it wins over a bunch of Supers as well.

Bullshit.

>>14634195
>When will they learn?

25m is totally M size though. That's indisputable.

>>14634185

They could replace Brigandi with a brick in its animations and no one would notice.

>>14634402
>When will they learn?
is a part of the /fit/ manlet meme, I think.

>Cross Masher

Thanks, Singapoor

Brigandy hater posts ALL DELETED, BTFO

Imagine being so excited to return to spamming after being banned that you get banned again in less than 3 hours

>All of these newcomers at the end of Stage 9 but only 6 deployment slots along with events

So who stays besides the newcomers? Any cases of characters being blatantly better in someone else's machine?

>>14634475
Cross Masher is correct.

So is the archive in the sea version of MD?

>>14634537
Removed

>>14634537
Yeah, it's a disaster, but it's there. What they took out was all those videos and shit that explains the plot from all the previous games.

>>14634337

How'd you take screenshots without the huge logo on them?

>>14634546
You know, it was probably removed cause there's no way to change the text in the archives of its just footage from the earlier games

>>14634552
he could have a capture card

>>14634537
Archive removed from Traditional Chinese(Taiwan/Hong Kong), Korean & SEA releases

Only Japan has it

What is Maximum Break and how do I use it?

>Granteed
How underwhelming, its slow, blind and its base armor is rather low for a super.

I had to have Touya get himself to near death just so that it could tank properly.

>>14634571
Dracodeus is much better, pretty much invincible, but even then Brigandy (sorry spammer) is just that much better.

>>14634584
I still don't understand why they had some units with 5 movement. Unlike Z, a unit with low movement just fucks everything up.

>>14634594
Usually 5 movement units have that as penalty for being very good in every other respect. But Granteed's just really mediocre and 5 movement is just icing on the shit cake.

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>>14634495

>before release people were already calling Granteed broken for having a 4000 AP move for no will req
Little did they know what's all Granteed had to hit thing at post movement range below 120 will.

But hey, at least it's not Geant "no post movement weapons below 120 will" Chevalier

>>14634612
4000 with no will req is nothing in OG though. OG's power scaling for the lower attacks was always higher than the other series.

>>14634631
I know that, but people were acting as if it was some groundbreaking shit.
Ganduro's Giganto Knuckle has like 3900 base and it's 1-3 P but you never ever fucking see anyone claiming it's even good.

Because no one ever talks about Ganduro.
It even lost a DK in OG2nd, and didn't get it back in MD.

>>14634546
>>14634548
>>14634558
Wow that was the only reason I was thinking of getting the sea version but if they took that out then I'll just get the Japanese version

I noticed VF-kun was using mGBA for his OG1 playthrough. Is it that much better than Visual Boy Advance? When I checked their website they don't even have save states for Game Boy games set up yet, and I have various save states for GBA games from my playthroughs with VBA that probably wouldn't be compatible with mGBA.

>>14634633
It was just a bunch of people who only played like J and expected Granteed to be super broken again even though OG's generally about bum rushing shit to death with fast units to get all of the SR Points.

Does Kyosuke still have Accel and Assail in his spirit set in MD?

>>14634348
GODZILLA IS PEOPLE

Oh wait, Shin Godzilla did that already.

>>14634571
Not that much different from J to be honest, it's just that J was so easy that everything felt over powered.

>>14634506
It's more Crossmasher, the words are slurred together.

>>14634644
In J, Granteed might have been slow and blind but the thing had insane base power for a unit that joins in Stage 1.

Tempest Lancer is actually stronger than the finishers of units that you get later on in the game as "upgrades".

>>14634636
>I have various save states for GBA games from my playthroughs with VBA that probably wouldn't be compatible with mGBA.
1. Load the savestates you want.
2. Save your game.
3. Export the save, then do the above steps for each savestate you need to carry over.
4. Open the game in mGBA, import the battery files you exported, load your game, and savestate.

I have never used mGBA but I'll assume this works unlike transferring DS saves across different emulators. I'll just stick with the old VBA version I've got here since forever, don't really see a reason to change.

>>14634659
>but the thing had insane base power for a unit that joins in Stage 1.
Eeeeh.
It has a what, 4500 power finisher as Dracodeus?
4300 before that.
Those numbers aren't really high.
J had really low numbers, which is why Voltes enemies are just a fucking chore to fight.

Finger Crusher is like 100 points less than the other mechs finishers, it's hilariously unbalanced

>>14634663
unlike or like?

>>14634678
Unlike, because transferring savestates, let alone battery saves across DS emulators never works.

It's how I used to change saves across VBA and VBA-Link back when for some reason they used different extensions for the saves.

>>14634676
Finger Crusher is about as strong as Coustwell/Bellezute's finishers and that has no will requirement and is one of Granteed's weakest attacks.

Don't tell me that you're one of those its not 5000 so its low no matter what scaling the game in question uses people.

O Rifle A 3500
O Finish 3600
Finger Crusher 3400
Tempest Lancer 4200

Just from starting a new game and looking at the unupgraded stats, someone had a giggle with Granteed in J

>>14634686
It's probably because GB(A) saves are based solely on the cartridge while DS saves involve the DS itself (so even with real games you couldn't always move a cartridge between DSes and have everything be fine, though iirc that mostly had to do with multiplayer data).

>>14634692
*DS saves sometimes involve the DS itself

The grunts at the start of MD already has like over 6000HP, Granteed isn't gonna 1 shot anything like in J

They're closer to end of game grunts

>>14634695
That's why, for instance, if you do online Pokemon stuff, it always talks about the combination of game and DS/3DS instead of just the card.

The game itself is all on the card, but online stuff is partly in the system.

>>14634688
>Don't tell me that you're one of those its not 5000 so its low no matter what scaling the game in question uses people.
If it came out after Alpha 1 and it's not called Compact 3, anything that doesn't have average 3000 base power across all weapons (not counting vulcans) is weak as shit.

Having lower average attack power than other games doesn't magically alter the damage formula.
I'm looking at you, D.

>>14634744
I assume that you hate the handhelds up to like K then.

>>14634744
In Alpha 2 and Impact, even having much stronger attacks than 3000 will deal fuckall damage.

>>14634749
Man @2 is an absolute slog when you think about it.

>>14634641
He lost Accel in 2nd OG but he still has Assault.

>>14634748
D and R scale absurdly with upgrades.
J doesn't, so it's much more noticeable.
A is winkysoft damage calculations where anything higher than 2000 is WHOA MAN THAT'S A FUCKING WARHEAD YOU GOT RIGHT THERE
W is fine, although there's a couple of units that feel like they're stuck in J (namely, FMP units which had to stay on the weak side so they wouldn't be stronger than Arbalest at base, which had to stay low because lmao 1.3/1.5 final damage, but considering K has a 5500 base finisher with the SAME 1.5 modifier (and there's a 5600 and IIRC 6000 one later), I guess they just had no idea what the fuck they were doing).

>>14634749
Alpha 2's leader skills and guard stacking in the most unfun way possible.
Impact is, from my experience, shields SHIELDS SHIELDS SHIELDS SHIELDS.
MX also comes to mind in terms of low attack power, but not at base, I mean at maximum.
I remember Garmraid and Cerberus have 600 power gain at best without favorites, with that, it jumps to fucking 900.
I mean, putting aside the game's bias for Gamraid over Cerberus (Burning Breaker ties with Cerberos Fang and beats Cerberaid Buster already)

>>14634644

In J Finger Crusher was range 1-3 and Granteed could fly. This helped immensely.

The only pro is has in MD is that Orgone Cloud is available off the bat.

>>14634777
>and IIRC 6000
No, wait, Regret Buster is 6500 base now that I remember.
Meanwhile Regina's finisher has fucking 4000 base what the hell.
That's what the Brigandi's Orgone Buster Cannon had in J

>>14634659

To be fair, Granteed is pretty strong in MD. Just that you're comparing it to units which have gone through their stories and got all their upgrades, thus when you compare it to G Compact Kaiser the difference is clear.

Hell, even Forte Gigas is superior. Even after getting Dracodeus, Gigas still holds its own.

>>14634777
>Impact is, from my experience, shields SHIELDS SHIELDS SHIELDS SHIELDS.

Even without shields you get maxed finishers with the 1.5x Hot Blood barely cracking 10000, and those are in the 4000s.

But yes Shields suck. That's basically the only reason to use Daitarn, even.

>>14634065

SRW LN
(Super Robot Wars: Ladies' Night)

Classic Style

>Any sexy hero protag?

>>14634777
Of course, MX also had all sorts of silly shit with regard to attacker, revenge, and combo attacks. The Dragonar units, in particular, could put out absolutely horrifying amount of damage, especially with the favorite bonus.

>>14634777

>D and R scale absurdly with upgrades.

Didn't play R, but isn't D counterbalanced by the fact that armour is near worthless in it?

who's voicing Excell and Alfimi now?
Are they just reusing old clips?

>>14634815
Base damage and armor values are rather low across the board. Weapons gain hilarious amounts of power from upgrades, while armor just goes up by 5% of the base value with each bar, just like the rest of the games from that era. And with a base value that low, it just can't keep up.

So yes, armor is mostly pointless in D.

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>Lamia yells the Neutron Blaster part of Pheonix Showdown all hotblooded but doesn't even say Gespenst Kick
Unless I'm only getting one variation of the lines. I at least expected one with her voice glitch.

>>14634821
Mizutani was still alive when they did all the recording for OGMD, so they haven't yet needed to recast her or resort to permanent recycling of old lines. We probably won't know how they'll handle it until another OG game comes out in a few years.

>>14634821
All of Excellen and Alfimi's lines were done before she died. Where they go from here will have the changes. They can either retire them or recast them, or in true Banpresto fashion just reuse any line they can; but then they won't be able to get the quips for new enemies.

They'll have to recast the Zovorg that she voices also

>>14634814
>especially with the favorite bonus.
Not even that.
With all 3 with Attacker active, D-Formation Attack S caps at 9913 ir 9947 base power, I forget which one.
That's at worst, 86 points away from the highest displayed number.
MX probably needed Attacker to work like it does to balance those low final numbers, but the way it stacks on combo attacks AND with Revenge is fucking stupid.

>>14634815
YOUR armor is absolute horse shit, it takes plenty of investing so you can see some results, investment that could go towards weapons so you kill them before they kill you (which is what you want to happen as D's lategame won't like tanks, hello Belgrandes with 4000 power finishers).
The enemies?
They get so many upgrades on respectable bases (lategame you won't be seeing lower than 5 upgrades across the board) and stack them with shield defense and sometimes even the defend command so often that it's fucking annoying.
And that's just assuming their S ranks, prevails, over 120 mobility, and in the worst case, newtype/enhanced human levels even let you hit them.

>>14634837
>Zeb, Seti, and Rof
>ever showing up again
I wish.

>>14634841
And note that as far as I recall, none of the Dynamic pilots get Soul. So Dragonar Formation ends up being the strongest attack in the game.

You do have to get the S terrain FUB, though, or it gets outdone by the Twin Laser Sword (which is about 150 power weaker, if memory serves, but comes with S ranks by default).

Are there any good Super robot wars hacks for psp and Gba Excluding the Translations and Ver A for OG2

>>14634849
>You do have to get the S terrain FUB, though, or it gets outdone by the Twin Laser Sword (which is about 150 power weaker, if memory serves, but comes with S ranks by default).
Doubt.
With Meio and Ken at max upgrades without attacker, it's somewhere in the 8800 range, so it's around 9680 with the S ranks.
Unless the Attacker bonus also stacks again after ajusting for terrain ranks.

>>14634842
>not reusing character
Zeb will join you next game

>>14634863
At max upgrades with favorite, it's 8160 vs. 7862. Add in the S rank, and it ends up at an effective power of 8648.

Since both figures are multiplied equally by attacker, revenge, and soul, the sword combo ends up stronger than dragonar formation unless you FUB an S rank onto the latter.

Should I not even bother asking for help on here and just play the game once through? MD, that is

>>14634954
play the guidance scenario then

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ZAN, CHESTO, IT'S ALL IN THE MIND
IF YOU WANNA TEST ME,
I'M SURE YOU'LL FIND
THAT ALL THE THINGS I'LL TEACH YA
IS SURE TO BEAT YA,
NEVERTHELESS YOU'LL GET
A LESSON FROM TEACHER
NOW

ZAN

>>14634744

You know they can change the numbers right?

>>14634954
Sure. Going into a game blind is a fun way to find characters and stuff that you like.

>>14634954
Just play it yourself and decide what's good for you

You can't lose in a SRW game

>>14634954
Play OG1 first.

>>14634954
What kind of help do you want?

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>characters get Aspiration that cost 90sp while having 88sp

Nice game balancing

Anyone using VBA-M emulator on chromebook or whatever? I am trying to import my save for J but it doesnt seem to work. No data or save states doesnt seem to appear.

>Go into MD expecting FF to be underwhelming as fuck
>Its fairly strong and enemies love walking into the range of Spiral Tornado

I'm definitely going to enjoy swapping the twins around depending on the enemy comp so that I can ace them both.

>>14635036
>FF
>not GG

>>14635042
Why would I be talking about the one that everyone already knows is good?

My MD copy should be arriving soon, and I have just one question: is Joshua Radcliffe in it? I missed out on 2nd OG because I'm a dirty monolingual pig and he's one of my favorite OG characters

I need Drumfire in my life

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>>14635047
my copy came in and it feels so weird playing a SRW in English after playing so many in Japanese

>>14635049
yes. Hell his machine is on the cover

So who goes best with Yon in MD? I need some Hayamin in my life.

In @ does the Hucky MK II ever get the G Impact Cannon or is it stuck with the Chakram shooter as a finisher until the MK III?

>>14635081
G Impact Cannon/Keitou Shungokuken are unlocked on Stage 28ish

>Brigandi shitter deleted
>Claw banned
I love you mods

I really hate Axel but he's so strong

>>14635085
Then the MP ones in Gaiden don't have either, but they're MP ones so.

>>14635085
Why does @ have to withhold upgrades for such a long time? The actual upgrade for the MK III/RKO doesn't happen until like the 40s

>>14635097
And they aren't properly playable until the following route split in the early 50s.

>>14635049
The only characters gone are some of the Masoukishin cast members, Ventus, and Kukuru.

And a small tip, do not use Geant Chevalier.

>>14635109
Christ you're right, stage 51 is when the upgrade happens. And the MK III still needs to wait to get the Gunner and Boxer frames

No mio no good

Do SR points serve any purpose outside of PP and difficulty of the game?

>>14635126
At least Ryukooh and Koryuoh is playable in the next game. Boxer and Gunner is lost forever.

>>14635126
>stage 51 is when the upgrade happens.
Huh?
Upgrade stage is 44.
51 is when you can actually start upgrading them.
Or whichever the stage after you get the SRX is.

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>>14635140
Did I stutter?

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>Euzeth: The true Cross Gate can change its state and move by itself.

Are you ready for final boss of OG, the king of cross gate

Quick question: is playing after a Game Over essentially locking yourself out of getting SR points ever again, or on just the level you got the GO on?

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You see this? This is the game telling me to go fuck myself,
>yeah you got Zechs and Irm, too fucking bad for you it's only for 3 stages

>>14635150
Just on that level

>>14635150
Only on the level you failed, you can still get it on the next one.

>>14635148
No, we have to go deeper, how about THE EDEL OF THIS WORLD IS A LIVING CROSSGATE WHO IS ALSO ADVENT

>>14635130
I know in 2ndOG you need a certain amount to get the true ending.

and if you play MD in Beginner mode you get like 20k a SR point

>>14635130
Not in MD.

>>14635143
No, but you're posting wrong shit.
Upgrade stage is 46.

>>14635182
It doesn't count as the upgrade stage if you don't get to use it until 5 stages later

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>>14634943
>those tights

>>14635191
Don't you go Mattman on me and start adding arbitrary rules to what counts and doesn't count.
The upgrade happens in 46, where you even use the damn units, but they leave the roster until the next routesplit after you beat the stage.

>>14635120
Why not, is it just bad, or is there some kind of secret involved in not using it or something

If it's just not a good unit I'll use it anyway just because I like it, just like how I made Russel Bagman and his shitty little drone thing one of my main units in OG1 and 2

>>14635198
Geant was heavily nerfed, and is practically useless. You can make Aile, and Forte work, but Geant is just useless.

-Way less mobility
-Less movement
-You need more will for the sword
-The FUB doesn't help fix any of the problems

>that gay level at the beginning of the space route where you can't kill the enemies or automatic Game Over
>all of your units decide it's time for Crit City
I've failed this mission 5 times now thanks to Ex Boxer criticals.

>>14635222
There's one for Earth route as well

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>>14635198
No post movement options below 110 will.
Nerfed from OG2nd so that it has less base stats, no innate S ranks, all its weapons except the finisher (which hass 100 more attack power) got nerfed to make room for a new attack that runs on Josh's over 30 points lower than his melee at LV99 range stat.
That ALSO has a will req.

And the FUB is essentially worthless in the last stage.
And even outside it, it modifies its terrain ranking but does nothing to give the Geant the proper movement types needed to abuse thsoe S ranks (it's still better off flying unless you want to go at a snail's pace).

>>14635198
Geant "no P weapons until 120 will" Chevalier

If you want to make Geant work, pair Josh with Axel and give either of them the appropiate terrain part.
Your SP count will tank hard until you get Axel Mental Focus and they level up enough, though.

>>14635256
>Geant and Soulgain

Wut

>>14635264
Axel's twin Drive should put Josh at the needed will for Neo Cipher Sword with the least amount of investment.
Melee ranges sorta match up too, as do ALL ranges. Movement-wise they're also identical tied at 6.

>>14635264
I guess use Axel's Drive to get Josh enough will to use his P attacks.

>>14635216
It's weird that Neo Cypher Sword requires 120 will when Rim's Guardian Blade only requires 110.

>>14635279
Rim's 120-will attack is the MAP instead.

>it's a Granteed can't hit anything because it has range 1 post movement episode

>>14635291
Twin with Axel or Katina and use Drive senpai

>>14634375
Shipgirls can only have water hovering skill and can't go on land. So it's like bringing Mars Daybreak into SRW.

Also Shipgirls isn't /m/ enough for SRW

>>14635291
Don't forget it being groundbound and 5 movement in case you ever wanted it to do anything in stages with any sort of terrain obstructions.

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>>14635298
>using Axel

Nice meme

>>14635298
Doesn't help when he's required on half the maps and can't be twinned.

>>14635302
>not using the most overpowered unit in the game

Basically you need to baby Granteed to make it good.

>Garmraid is shit before upgrade
>Chevalier is shit before upgrade
>being surprised Granteed is shit

>>14635308
>Chevalier is shit before upgrade
Aile Chevalier's only downside was its sorta low attack power.
It's pretty good other than that, but it could use an extra 200 on Burst Rave.

>>14635308
R-1 is a solid unit for 5 games. Checkmate.

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>>14635308
Bellezute is good before the upgrade.

>>14635308
Granteed is supposed to be a rapetrain. Lazypresto nerfed it for no reason.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-18/majestic-prince-anime-film-casts-soma-saito-sora-amamiya-tomokazu-sugita-more/.105511
> Sugita voicing Sugita

>>14635328
>casts [...] sora amamiya
pre-emptive vomit

>>14635327
>J fans so butthurt that their precious Granteed can't play with the big OG boys

>>14635335
In all honesty, Touya's theme sucks dick. I'm going to swap it over to Burn Now! immediately.

>>14635321
Calvina is a great pilot who gets all the Puffs panties wet while To-ya the filthy Furyspawn is a SHIT and doesn't deserve any of the Puffs.

>>14635334
> Hating on the voice of the goddess Aqua

>>14635347
>implying Aqua was the best part
>not Kazuma and Megumi with their amazing voice-acting
Get good taste, comrade.

>>14635347
Aqua was her first role that didn't sound fucking terrible.
Track record still leans towards the negative.

>>14635343
Change it to Ice Man instead.

>>14635352
They're all good. Even Darkness'.

>>14635321
7 0 0 a r m o r

>>14635352
It's her only role where she didn't get pushed by Sony

>inb4 she did V's heroine.

>>14635356
But Ai Kayano's good.
Excep when she's voicing turds like Menma, Mikono and Melua.

>>14635358
>Needing armor when you can evade

>>14635148
.....Banpreios? Izzat you?

>>14635358
You could give it 0 armor and 100 HP and it's still a better unit then the Wildfalken

>>14635355
Isla sounded fine and her Miia voice was pretty close to her Aqua voice.

The whole "our androids have human-level intelligence but they go insane if they're active for more than x amount of time" thing from Plastic Memories was kind of stupid, but eh.

>>14635363
Don't bully the dead girl.

>>14635358
>getting hit
Uh do you even know how to play

>>14635358
>getting hit
Nothing worse than getting killed on a 5% chance. I love SRW

>>14635374
> 0 armor and 100 HP
So Calvina with a jetpack?

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>>14635376
>>14635378

Tell that to 70% upgrade Bioroid on Ex-hard..

>>14635387
You know, Focus is a thing

>>14635375
>Isla sounded fine
No. Almost on the same tier of bad as her Kaori voice, which was surprisingly not the worst thing about the OWF anime.
I would't have minded if the show kept going with that, everything after the midway point was really bland and I only kept watching for the music.
>close to her Aqua voice
"eh"

https://youtu.be/ErNXkT5UvD8

The animus of Amara

>>14635308
Aile was one of the few units that was great pre upgrade in OG2nd.

>>14635347
which Aqua?

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>>14635437

>Lamalice
Who's bright idea was to make dodgy fucks with nearly 8k HP and ailments out the ass?

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>>14635455
This one

>>14635455
The one that's a goddess.

>>14635462
that doesn't say much

>>14635458
You fool, your frustration merely serves to fuel Dark Brain!

>>14635465
I'm already pretty mad enough with them handing so many units that I want to use but not enough deployment slots to go around.

I'm honestly contemplating doing wicked things like benching the SRX Team and Irm.

>>14635464
Are you claiming that SRW Aqua is a goddess?

>>14635474
KH Aqua

>>14635479
Oh, her. I never played her game.

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should i just wait until i get the G Impact Cannon before upgrading the weapons?

>>14635216

Did the sword also have a will requirement in OGs2?

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>>14635457
>Ultimate MS pilot
Nigga please.

>>14635492
>Airmaster
>B in the air

>>14635495
It's the Goshogun of @G

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HEY ASSHOLES

Does anyone have pics of the Grungust/Huckebein recolors from SRW 4

THEN POST IT

OR I'LL DESTROY ALL THAT YOU HOLD DEAR

>>14635495
And when it's in MS mode have B in land, what a piece of shit.

>>14635458

Get block

It made the fuckers 10x more bearable.

>>14635492

>Those terrain rankings

Every sortie must be suffering for him.

>>14635488
No, prioritize the Photon Rifle even though it's the only weapon that doesn't carry over to something for the mk III.
You want to get range boosts over melee ones because the Gunner styles all over the Boxer.

>>14635468
Benching Irm is fine because he put that dumbass circle thing on his Grungust and it looks terrible.

Any Srw game I should Play?? I only have psp Ds and gba for options

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>>14635499

>>14635512
R, MXP

>>14635512
A Portable

Whats the true power of Mazinger Zero?

>>14635492
> Type r ______ rSea
Wut

>>14635521
Destroying realities?

>>14635520
Im actually currently playing A Portable and having alot of fun with it
>>14635517
I already Beaten MXP and it was really hard to get through..I have not played R much, Is there a psp port for it??

>>14635492
>BBCB
Fucking pre-2ndα games.

>>14635527
>having fun
I'm guessing you're on Axel route.

>>14635527
>I have not played R much, Is there a psp port for it??
No

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>ps4 controller light goes from Red to Blue depending on player phase or enemy phase in MD

>>14635521
jobbing to anything that's not a Mazinger
I could beat Zero

>>14635531
Lamias Route Using the space tank,Damn Its hard but still really fun

>>14635533
And the other colors as well.

>>14635538
(You)

>>14635521
It's Apocalyptic at least, I don't remember if the Dimensional type powers were simply because it was a recurring loop or if it actually had those kinds of power. The Breast Fire was enough to scorch 99% of Earth and leave it uninhabitable, for perspective.

>>14635535
>jobbing to anything that's not a Mazinger

Does that mean those mechanical beasts it ate were also Mazingers? What exactly qualifies as a "Mazinger" then?

>>14635542
so yellow for dumbfuck NPCs?

>>14635566
And green IIRC.

What mech is best for Katina in MD? I've been sticking her in Ashsaber

>>14635573
Benchbein X

>>14635573
Benchsaber

>>14635573
Red Type 2 Grungust or the Type 3

>>14635573
Neo Benchzon

>>14635573
The bench.

If you're not going to bench her, her best options are the Grungust Type-3 and the red Exbein Gunner. Her new Ace Bonus gives her a bonus for piloting red-colored units. The red Grungust Type-2 is also valid for this bonus, but as a unit it sucks.

Her Gespenst isn't terrible either, though you should probably keep it in N rather than G or C for the better attack ranges and Katina having a higher Shooting than Melee.

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>>14635516
I was actually referring to this

The screen in SRW 4 where you can color your OG's mech based on a set of patterns.

You know

Like picking Gundam colors for the Huckebein.

This certainly won't come back to bite the franchise in the ass.

>Dygenguard doesn't count as Black mech for Ratsel's ace

Fug

>>14635592
Damn. I wish more SRWs have color customization.
How else am I going to have my usual edgemaster colors on my mecha?

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>>14635597
Forgot the picture.

How do I get AP in MD?

I was going to pass on buying ability parts until I saw that it used AP instead of cash

>>14635606
Same like how you get money

>>14635597
VF apologize to me for wasting time on your game this instant

>>14635606
From kills the same way; but I don't think there's a way to boost AP gains like you can with money.

>>14635603
Literally a Gundam.

>>14635606
From kills. You'll get quite a lot, but I recommend using it chiefly on Movement+, Range+, Money+ and Full Block. Full Block in particular makes all the fucking Lamilice stages way less annoying and nullifies XN-L's Spirit Block effect.

>>14635625
I was thinking nothing but more money but that would be a waste since it's like 50% carryover rate

and can I buy AP parts in EX hard mode?

>every single OG
>more and more confusing shit happening
>gave you more question than answer

I mean Euzeth did answer some but its still all grey and now with all these Kadom Hakam shit

Sean: "There was an English reciprocating Mech called by that name in the Old A.D."

In regards to Fury, what was Sean talking about, exactly?

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God damn some of those skill points are pretty hard.

Stage 22, Timp in a landship+another unit with 18k, 18k overman, 19k overman with double move, autocast strike+alert, 2 more landships and Dominator, all in 5 turns

Barely pulled through on my first try on round 5 counterattack somehow.
Why is the midgame always the hardest thing in SRW?

I'm a bit curious about something regarding SRW's music:

1) What's your favorite piece of SRW music that's appeared in multiple games or subseries? They can be either menu, map, or battle themes - anything that's SRW original is accepted. E.g. "The Beckoned Foreigner," "Steel Beowulf," "Apocalypse," "Violent Battle."

2) Similar to above, what's you're favorite piece of SRW-original music that has only appeared in one game or subseries thus far? Examples include "Brass Sincerity," and "Beat and Beat."

>>14635647
1. Moon Knights, Over the World Wall, Burn Now
2. Rushing Dandy, The King's Love is for His People, both of Straybird's themes

>>14635647
1) Arrow of Destiny, maybe Marionette Messiah
2) Dunno

>>14635647
1) Dark Prison's pretty up there with the OGDP version, but I might give it to Variable Formation instead.

2) Taikyoku's Over Raiser is a god tier theme.

>>14635647
All the A original songs are fucking GOAT.

Probably the Fairlion theme.

>>14635647
1. Dark Prison OGDP
2. Fairy Dancing

>>14635647
1. I have a lot. Ace Attacker (Ver. W), Princess of Passion, and Trombe! are all top picks.
2. Fairy Dan-Sing, especially that vocal version from The Inspector.

>>14635573
Does Giganscudo Doro count as red? If so, I'd go for that to balance out her shitty defense plus her not running out of EN thanks to Counter L6.

That and the defense of that thing is pretty high anyway.

>>14635647
1) The Arrow of Destiny
2) Eternal Memory or Shinin' Heart, Tsuyoku Naritai or however you want to translate Elicia's theme is pretty good too.

>>14635647
Dark Prison
CLOSE GAME LIFE

>>14635647
1. Drumfire, Burning Red, Gate of Magus
2. Active Mind, The Resolve Of The Awakened One, Roar Of A Deadly Strike, Challengers' Pride, and all of the OGG Shura themes are all really good.

>>14635703
Gigan FUB is good this game, only 5 EN for barrier instead of 15
Though it suit Russel perfectly with Assist Defense and cheap Walls

>the last fighter twin
>its not a twin

>>14635774
It kinda is, if you count the Kadoum and the Grand Fenossa separately.

When CCA happens in SRW do you prefer it to happen as normal with Char as the guy dropping Axis and dying or do you prefer having Char on your side?

>>14635848
Fuck Char just let him die

Quattro is better anyway

>>14635630
Nope.

>>14635848
The former, you get Char in almost every SRW he's in
Fighting him in the Nightingale as an endgame boss in Alpha 2 was pretty damn great

>>14635851
Ok I'll be more specific, do you prefer Char to die or do you prefer Char/Quattro to be your ally

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK_rTJrPMGE

>>14635751
It runs out of EN for my tastes unless you have someone with Counter so that it'll be more beneficial imo.

The reason why I go with Katina with it is:
-MB which while purchasable, is probably not your highest priority in a new game.
-Soul
-Accel
-Ammo based MAP
-Counter activating a lot of time
-Twin Drive

>>14635853
>you get Char in almost every SRW he's in

CCA Char is in 64, Compact 2, Impact, Alpha 2, D, and Z3. He is only obtainable in the last two of those. OYW Char has never once been obtainable.

>>14635860
>cast Drive and Accel at the start of the stage
>0 SP left

>>14635863
>OYW Char has never once been obtainable
Y'know that's the real greatest tragedy of the series, there hasn't been a game with the OYW that lets you persuade Char to turn against Zeon and destroy the Zabis that way

>>14635863
>OYW Char
How many games have OYW Char again and how many of them would go from OYW all the way to CCA?

>>14635879
A did

>>14635879
if it counts, Alpha to Alpha Gaidento Alpha 2

>>14634197
If you're on Setsuko's route you can only miss two skillpoints if you want to get the G-Bits

>>14635490
Yes, 110, now it's 120.

Oh, Shin also had CCA Char.

>>14635879
Most of the Classics, A, GC/XO, OE, and Compact 1 had OYW Char. Maybe one or two others. None of them had CCA Char.

>>14635882
Alpha never had OYW Char.

>>14635599
You want to laugh? It count's the Type-0, despite it having a fuckton of yellow.

>Radha's ace doesn't work if she's the subpilot

Noooo

>>14635751
Gigan desperately needs a pilot with Accel to function, if you use it at all. I wish it could get an actual upgrade, base Gigan in OG1 was so much better than the Duro.

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I like Giado's accent.

>>14635883
Playing entirely blind and expecting to get no secrets at all

Also, why are Roybea and Witz total jobbers? I thought they would be at least half decent for the first half of the game.

>>14635378
Maybe get good.

Or just go play XCOM and cry.

>>14635911
They're decent if upgraded, but up until Z2-2 they lacked proper finishers.

>>14635902
Yeah, a ton of them are like that, some for no reason despite the fact that they'd be great if the worked as sub-pilots.

>>14635927
>get good
>when it's all based on chance

>>14635911
Their mechs have S ranks which is annoyingly rare in the Z series, when you need S ranks on the mech AND pilot to count.

>>14635640
The only hard skill points in Z1 are a few in Setsuko's early game and Land's stage 15.

>>14635647
>2
I'M SPACE WOMAN and half the Masoukishin soundtrack.

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Crush, Kill, Destroy.

>>14635944
Somehow I got 15 without any real issues on my 1st try

17 on one of the route splits was the worst, the one where Baldios shows up for the first time - all the squads are predetermined, too much water, barely got it after spending all my money on weapons with only 2 attacks to spare.

>>14635930
Isn't everyone decent when upgraded in a SRW?
Roybea just can't dodge for shit, gets 100%'d on by grunts in the early game and dies in 3 hits.
Witz is at least good as a flying accel bot

>>14635966
>Somehow I got 15 without any real issues on my 1st try
Simply getting the skill point isn't that bad, but the stage also has a bunch of spirit requirements, all of which involve doing reckless things with units that are completely unupgraded on Land's side of things. So the time limits can get rather tight if you're going for both.

>>14635966
>Roybea just can't dodge for shit, gets 100%'d on by grunts in the early game and dies in 3 hits.

Upgrade his armor. He's like Heavyarms - either don't get hit by out ranging or tank it.

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Bring it back.

On the subject of things they should bring back

Ryusei's cut in from T-Link Knuckle where he looks really angry.

>>14635994
I like how its other hand is going "BEHOLD!"

>>14635994
That's in OG2 not OG1

>>14635982
>upgrade armor
>on a gundam
>in Z where it costs a fuckton

Don't be cock-a-hoop