Shin God-ANGUIRUS THREAD

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Unfilmed tadpole.

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Tail detail shots.

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Form 2 and 3 maquette photos

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Atomic breath/fire breath

>>14631234
That's precious. I want to build a Lego city for it to waddle through.

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>>14631224

>>14631348
Anno really liked Man of Steel apparently.

>>14631422
He needs the exercise.

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does /m/ like godzilla ps4

>>14631437
>villagers just keep on walking calmly

>>14631441
Orrrrr, he's just doing what happens in pretty much every other Godzilla movie.

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>>14631472
>HYUK HYUK HYUK

>>14631471
Could've been a lot better, but I enjoyed it. Loved the whole Godzilla growing thing. Hilarious taking on a tiny Mecha Godzilla with a full sized G14.

>>14631479
Is there any other Godzilla movie where beams clean cut buildings instead of just making them explode?

>>14631501

Happens in '84 during the second Super X battle.

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>>14631481

MAGUMA, I'M NAKED

I'M GREASED AND READY NOW I'M READY TO CRAWL INTO YOUR VAGINA

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>>14631538
>Whuts a vaginer?

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>>14631540

NEVER MINE THAT, I'M GOING IN

UUUUUUUUURRR

LET ME INTO YOU MAGUMA I'M READY AND YOU ARE READY FOR AMERICA

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>>14631549
Maguma has a penis of solid bone, sir.

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>>14631348
"A shaft of light is all I need
To cease the darkness killing me"

>>14631472
JUST. Even primitive villagers have no respect for Maguma.

And let's go, anons. Post favorite kaiju girls.

>>14631563

THEN LET ME INTO YOUR URETHRA MAMGUMA

TAKE YOUR PENIS AND SUCK ME IN, TAKE ME ON A RIDE OF NEW SENSATIONS GLIDIBNG ON MY SKIN

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>>14631564

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>>14631573
Oh... Real flesh and blood, bruh. Or at least completely human. Rei and Asuka could technically count now. And why the lack of Misato merchandise? Is she not popular in Japan?

>>14631564
Man, I'm wishing I saved that huge Minus gallery of Yumiko Shaku when I found it. Seems like Minus is down.

>>14631487
>people keep leaving the lobby in online mode
>people will pull a "sm4sh for fun" troll on you
>matches last 2 minutes because of how OP certain kaijus are

>>14631348
Non-gif: https://youtu.be/J1jYtgj3hLo

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>>14631584
>>14631564

YoU ARE DISTRACTION FROM THE TAKS AT HAND, WHCIH IS FOR MAGUAM'S REHENSILE B ON E PENIS TO SCUK ME UP LIEK A MEAT WATER SLIDE

THE SLIDING CONCACT WITH MY NAKED FORM WILL ORGAMS ME ONE TNHOUSNAND UPON A THOUSAND TIMES AS MY NIPPLES RUSH AGAINST MAGUMA'S MATY INTERIORS

CGI Break-down: https://youtu.be/66SAVZ4JxY8

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>>14631564
best girl

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>>14631630

I

CAN'T

STOP

MASTURBATING

>>14631654
kill me.

>>14631608
Like I said, could've been a lot better.

do we have a high quality version of the soundtrack yet

>>14631723
The one on YouTube is pretty good.

>>14631844
I think it's more the ambulance confused him with a burn victim.

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>>14631882

>>14631723
http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=208149

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>>14631471
By all accounts, it's not a good game. It's main problems are that it's really repetitive and you can't play locally with a friend.
That said, I enjoyed it as a Godzilla simulator. If you've ever wanted to be the guy in the suit trashing tokyo without the hot stage lighting and burning squibs, this game certainly lets you live out that fantasy.

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> After the end of the film, Shimamoto said, "We have all been rolled around in the palm of Anno's hand. We have all been defeated by Anno. Since we were defeated here, we gave Anno our energy, and now he has to make a 2nd and 3rd Godzilla film for us!"

> Then, Hideaki Anno made his surprise appearance. Shimamoto hadn't been told that Anno would be coming, so when he first saw him, he was so shocked that he fell to his knees.

> Shimamoto fired off several rapid questions for Anno, asking, "Can you still make good films? Will you still make them? Ones that feel as good as the one we just watched?"

> Anno calmly replied, "I'm decisively neutral." He then said to Shimamoto, "You haven't been defeated...That's a very soulless thing to say (laughs)," and then shook his hand.

> Finally, Shimamoto yelled out in front of the crowd, "Anno! It's my loss!" and a commemorative photo was taken of him, Anno, and Mafia Kajita, a well-known video game developer who was also in attendance.

Anno Godzilla Trilogy when? And how long afterwards until Anno's take on Ultraman? Evangelion fans are gonna get pissed.

Source: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-08-17/hideaki-anno-pays-surprise-visit-to-special-shin-godzilla-screening/.105437

>>14632321
How many people's deaths do you think the mafia man is responsible for?

>>14632321
So, does Mafia Kajita make any good games or what? Also, has there been any sort of news on that game that was in development to have players take control of citizens during a monster attack? I remember they were planning to license Ultraman to be in the game and Godzilla as well.

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>>14632415
> City Shrouded in Shadow (PS4/Vita)

Confirmed characters are: Godzilla, Ultraman, and an Evangelion.

There hasn't really been any news since February. But if that means we'll get a good game this time, that's fine by me.

>>14632415
City Shrouded in Shadow or whatever?

TGS is right around the corner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5ZMsd1BFc&feature=youtu.be

More atomic breath, guys.

>>14632697
Damn that looks fucking cool

>>14632697
>Anno! Get in here with my puke pail.

>And bring me some tissues. Lots more tissues!

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>>14632447
>There hasn't really been any news since February
>February

Anon...I've got some news for you

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>>14632697
>Metallic membrane covering eye

Godzilla doesn't want to watch the destruction he'll cause with his holocaust gas attack

The absolute madman

>>14632697
So, he starts breathing fire and then focusses it like a torch to create a giant plasma beam? And he also coats his eyeballs in mercury or something to keep from blinding/melting his own eyes out of his skull?

How the fuck is he supposed to aim/use that thing if it's basically blind-fire?

>>14632780
>How the fuck is he supposed to aim/use that thing if it's basically blind-fire?

Why would he *need* to? Also, nictitating membrane. He can see through it juuuuust fine. Animals have them for protection.

>>14632780
I gotta go with the other guy on this one, Godzilla's colossal and seems to desire wanton destruction, it could be flailing its head willy-nilly and with a beam like that it'd still achieve what it desires.
And then the back lasers and tail laser come into play

>>14632780
>How the fuck is he supposed to aim/use that thing if it's basically blind-fire?
He has radar. Read the pastebin, dumbfuck.

>>14632697
...wut?

as much as I like anno's weirdness, I'm also glad this is a one off film

I want a REPTILE with a large proper beam
and stop showing baby godzillas, I don't wanna see godzilla in nappies, I don't want to see godzilla as a dad, I don't want to see godzilla doing the dishes

I only want to see strong adult godzilla wrecking stuff!

>>14632794
>durrrr

He slices through the bombers easily. His back beam targets and destroys a single tiny drone while he's dormant.

>>14632802
my argument was that he doesn't need to aim. HE can aim, that much is certain, the main use of the back spines is to testroy incoming explosives, but my oint against yours that the requirement wasn't there.
I do not know "how" hit aims, but I know it does not need to, which was the argument in question. Am I wrong in this regard?

>>14632799
that is the "adult" one, even though we know it's not at its true final stage, if it even has one.

>>14632750
whats with all the explosions in this film? they all look flat and low energy like 90s videogame sprites

it lacks the bright white core, illumination and everything else

I still prefer physical effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ_S_85K5QQ#t=104

>>14632812
I know thats the adult form
I'm saying I don't want to see baby godzillas in future films

>>14632785
I'm fine with animals seeing through clear membranes of skin, Godzilla's is metallic and mirror-sheen/chrome, that's reflecting a lot of light, not passing through light.

I sincerely doubt the metallic eye cover is a 1 way mirror.

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Still no camrip?

>>14632947
Where's Cloudizer when we need him?

>>14632321
>, and Mafia Kajita, a well-known video game developer
He's a fucking game journalist who writes for 4gamer, who has a cameo in the movie as Ishihara Satomi's bodyguard you retarded cunts.

>>14632697
If I'm watching this right
>gas
>flame
>focused plasma torch thing
?

>>14633134
Read the OP newfaggot.
>>14631224
>Movie summary: http://pastebin.com/pW30aaHq

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New footage (mainly of the human characters in meetings, behind the scenes, etc), plus the scene with the breath posted earlier:

http://youtu.be/kNMuyMRKnHY

>>14631653
Yes.

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>>14632697
HOLY SHIIIII-

>>14632697
neat

>>14633214

I can agree that the explosions look kind of flat, but on the whole, holy shit that is killer

>>14632321
>fucks given by Anno: 0

>>14633444
It's not just a "no fucks given" pose.
It's Ultraman's "no fucks given" pose.

>>14633450
He's fully revealed his power level, stating no criticism can touch him now that he's made the second best Godzilla.

>>14633471
Best Godzilla according to ticket sales.

>>14633471
>fully revealed his power level
Anno is always at full power level.
His power levels are so high that we can't always comprehend them in our mortal universe.

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>>14633500
Not even close.

>>14633525
Shin Gojira's not listed there, yet it's sold more tickets in Japan than Godzilla 2014 for sure.

I'm doubtful of your claims.

>>14633558
The image is a little bit dated, but you'd really hear about it if th emovie was selling more than 5 million tickets, let alone 10 million.

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I called it. Anno did it.

>>14633574
"Being the highest grossing Godzilla film in Japan, it has also stomped the attendance records of the Millennium series. The highest attendance for the last Toho era was Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah's (2001) 2.4 million. Shin Godzilla attendance currently sits at a 2.59 million and is on pace to finish around 3.5+ which is over 500,000 more than originally projected and places it in the middle of the highly successful Heisei series."

So apparently it's doing really really good, though it's probably not the best. Of all time anyways.

>>14633610
It would take a real life Godzilla to save us from capeshit worshiping normalfags.

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>>14633612
Well, it'd be pretty hard to top the attendance of the original or KKvG.

>>14633618
A real life Godzilla would be pretty fucking awful when you think about it. What if he killed your favorite manga author before they could finish their work?

>>14633631
If he did that then Berserk would be the exact same as always, dead.

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>>14633631
...

. . . .

. . .

Too fucking real man.

Hypothetical: Godzilla shows up irl and conventional weapons are ineffective. Would you be for dropping nukes on him, even if he were in your country/state?

>>14633679
Dropping nukes would just make him bigger, especially Shin. Granted, most governments are dumb enough to do that anyway, then blame their populations as Godzilla eats the sun.

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Godzilla-sque humanoids?

>>14633679
I'd say if Godzilla existed in real life, he would probably have an exploitable weakness. There's really no creature on Earth that is invincible to everything... but this is Godzilla we're talking about, his entire existence is based on the principal that he defies all logic and reason. So, even a hypothetical real-life Godzilla is impossible since the ways we know how the Earth and the universe in general works. The only things we can't explain are more ethereal than anything else and don't really have a concrete form to observe with the naked eye.

>>14633795
They do look like that, just no eyes and the tails are sort of like fish skeletons.

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>>14631653
Best girl? And from the better movie.

>>14632835
There were babies in Showa, Heisei and Millennium movies. They can do whatever they want.

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>>14633795

>Shin Genesis Evangojira

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>>14633964
mfw I forgot minya in GMK

>>14634022
This is extremely unsettling to look at. No more

>>14634022
Oops, I meant Final Wars.

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CAMRIP WHEN

GOD DAMN IT INTERNET YOURE BLUEBALLIN ME

>>14634108
seriously it's been out in non-Japan countries for how the fuck long now?

>>14634115
TOO DAMN LONG THAT'S HOW THE FUCK LONG

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GODZILLA SAYS

>>14634120
SSSSSKKKKKKKKKRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>14634115
Sorry, I'm yelling with you, not at you.

My balls are bluer than Heisei-Goji's nuke breath.

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>>14634126
it's cool, I understand

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>>14634122
I should get my first job, you know

>>14634122
to fight our own battles and quit being a pussy

>>14634122
that even though he didn't make me, I'm his biggest regret, you know.

Godzilla anime fully confirmed.

https://twitter.com/Butch_Gen/status/766366274968432640?lang=en

>>14634343
>urobutcher godzilla anime
waitwat no right yes wat?

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>>14634343
>Polygon Pictures
>Did CG work on Ghost in The Shell 2
>Ultraman Cosmos vs. Ultraman Justice: The Final Battle
>Knights of Sidonia movie

I'm fine with this.

>>14634367
They also did:

>a few episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars
>Tron Uprising
>Transformers Prime

Definitely am okay with this.

>>14634367
>Transformers: Prime
>Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Lil' more fine.

>>14634343
Is this real?

>>14634343
So it's going to be CG? That's a shame.
Still hyped though.

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>>14634383
>>14634376
If it's Polygon Pictures, they'll probably use the cel-shaded style used in Sidonia and Transformers:RiD. They've mentioned that the CGI they used in TF:Prime and Clone wars was some kind of unsustainable production hell.

>>14634404
>some kind of unsustainable production hell.
Only the Urobutcher could surpass Anno.

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>>14634343
We technically now have four films and an anime sharing the same title.

BRAVO
R
A
V
O

>>14634416
It's just 3 movies. I don't think Shin counts.

>>14634446
> Gojira/Godzilla (1954)
> Godzilla/Return of Godzilla/ Godzilla 1985 (1984)
> Godzilla (1998)
> Godzilla (2014)

I'm going to need for this franchise to learn that subtitles are a thing.

>>14634416
only a king could carry that weight

>>14634416
>kawaii waifus
Hard

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http://godzilla-anime.com/index.html

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201608/19113578.html

Looks like Polygon Pictures is doing the Godzilla anime, boys.

They've done Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Transformers: Prime and TRON: Uprising.

>>14634457
>Godzilla 2000
>Godzilla: Tokyo SOS
>Godzilla: Final Wars
Actually I would like for Godzilla to not fall into the trap of wrestling-Pay-Per-View title syndrome.

>>14634502
Godzilla has been monster wrasslin for over half a century.
It's destiny.

>>14634502
>Implying Godzilla: King of The Ring isn't ballin' as fuck.

>>14634502
>Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack

>>14634404
TF: Prime also got reckless with the budget from what I read, even though the show didn't have many characters to animate. Hence why TF: RID went with a simpler cel-shaded look and a mixture of 2D and 3D imagery. But RID is also more comical, so the look fits.

Wonder what direction this is gonna take.

>>14634496
>Looks like Polygon Pictures is doing the Godzilla anime, boys.
They're also doing the BLAME! anime movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHplmh_R3zU

I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix get that Godzilla movie anime.

>>14634514
>>14634514
Well shit. You may be right.

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>>14634502
I think I like that better than the same title getting recycled for different projects. Or Anno's approach can be taken. Just make sure it translates into other cultures well. There's also the tried and true _ VS _ naming convention.

>>14634517
I'm also expecting a Knights of Sidonia-like style.

I'm not gonna complain if they do like they're doing BLAME though.

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>>14634496
>Gen Urobuchi
>Hiroyuki SESHITA
>Working on Godzilla
Holy shit.

>>14634534
I'd like them to get creative with the titles. Shin Gojira's double entendre was clever.

I liked Tarantino's idea for a Godzilla movie, he called it "Under the Rule of Godzilla"

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>>14634547
> I'm also expecting a Knights of Sidonia-like style.

Not sure how I feel about that. Don't hate it, though I'm not the biggest fan of that style.Personally, I would have preferred some great traditional animation. But it's not Berserk (2016), so I guess I'll be satisfied.

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>>14634496
>>14634563
What a time to be a Godzilla fan.

>>14634534
I never realized all the Millenium Godzillas were such fucking midgets.

>>14634496
Is this going to be sci-fi space godzilla?

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>>14634600
I recognize that slut.

>tfw I never did finish watching this

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>>14634615
>Mankind flees the planet Earth and travels halfway across the galaxy to find a new garden world to colonize
>Godzilla is already there waiting for them

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>>14634610
Someone would like a word with you

>>14634620
>It's a SpaceGodzilla origin story

>>14634622
Obviously I wasn't talking about based Junior.

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>>14634620
Pikmin and Xenoblade meet Godzilla? I thought maybe the image was a modern interpretation of Monster Island. An anime would be the perfect chance to get use out of monsters like Varan, Manda, Baragon, and The Giant Devilfish.

>>14634626
I wish Final Wars involved grown up Junior desu

>>14634640
Honestly I just assumed Final Wars Godzilla WAS grown up Junior

>>14634639
>Pikmin and Xenoblade meet Godzilla?
That'd be pretty fucking great. Or if you want to go with the American cartoon's interpretation, they bring Godzilla along with them as an insurance policy, and he fights all sorts of crazy alien kaiju for them

>>14634647

But Junior has no beef with humanity, anon. They raised him!

>>14634654
He's going through a rebellious phase.

>>14634620
I can't wait for Godzilla sempai to go on super fun space adventures with his kohai Godzilla Jr.

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>>14634662

I wonder what it's like to be hugged by Godzilla.

>>14634664
Maybe we could suggest to Gen that the goji in the series is junior

>>14634496
Transformers: Prime looked pretty good

Clone Wars looked ok but I couldn't help but compare it to the superior 2D Genndy series

TRON's motion bothered me, doing limited 2D cartoon limited framerate motion in 3D can look good but it's hard to pull off right. I don't think that show pulled it off right and I kinda fear since this next show will be a Japan thing they'll try and fail to give it anime motion.

>>14633610
>Star Wars
>Capeshit

>>14634684
Can you imagine if it turns into a remake of Evangelion where Godzilla is yelling at Junior to stop being a fucking pussy and pilot Mechagodzilla? I'd watch that shit.

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>>14634690
>but I couldn't help but compare it to the superior 2D Genndy series
I'd be remiss if I didn't ask. You ARE just talking about the art direction, right?

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>>14634690
>superior 2D Genndy series
Genndywars was not superior to TCW. Dont get me wrong, it was pretty good, but TCW was much better in most respects

>>14633618
>capeshit
>normalfags
I dunno how it is in America but I regularly go to a Romanian book store that has manga and capeshit and I've never seen a single person go through the capeshit. Meanwhile there's always groups of teenagers looking through the manga & talking about it aloud.
>>14634711
>>14634712
I'm talking about their art & animation capabilities, not the writing. In terms of the motion during fights the Genndy show was what Samurai Jack should've always been.

>>14634675
like getting hugged by a trash compactor lined with heavily irradiated tree bark

>>14634711
The animation in it was phenominal. The art style is signature Genndy, which is great but not exactly my favorite.

>>14634775
Honestly I feel Genndy's art is better suited for comedy than more serious action shows, Dexter's Lab is probably his best show in terms of art

But the animation in Clone Wars was good; I'm not sure how they could squeeze that level of motion out of Rough Draft Koreans (maybe the main staff were involved & guiding them more than usual) but it had the kind of well-timed action animation with actual impact that you rarely see in American cartoon fight scenes. Samurai Jack was mostly way floatier but there were exceptions like the Ultra Robots episode

>>14634343
>>14634496
Someone from /a/ apparently translated the text:
> Director Kobun Shizuno's comment: We're aiming to create entertainment on a scale that can only be done in anime, that people who love Godzilla or even people who don't know anything about it can appreciate. Please look forward to it.

> Director Hiroyuki Seshita's comment: Alongside Mr. Urobuchi and Mr. Kobun, creators who have extremely unique and worldly talents, we're looking to make a human drama along with a massive world.

> Gen Urobuchi's comment: To be allowed to work on a Godzilla title is the highest honor anyone could give a creator born in Japan, I think. I would like to give my thanks to all the people who have supported me thus far, as well as work in my full power to meet their expectations.

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>>14633214
Converted to webm

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>>14634856

It's going to be an anime film and will have a theatrical premiere.

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/08/18/gen-urobuchi-scripted-godzilla-anime-movie-announced-for-2017

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>>14634892
Also made one of form 2 bleeding

>>14634892
Jeebus.

>>14634895
Lovably grotesque.

>>14634895
This is genuinely disgusting

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>>14634620
>they finally adapt that unmade "A Space Godzilla" film that was released as a short story in Starlog in 1979

>>14634892
Sell me a ticket already

>>14634901
>>14634903
Maybe he just ate an American and that's the Amerilardfatass getting lodged in his throat?

>>14634911
Nah, Toho wouldn't do that this soon after Shin Godzilla. Don't want to alienate the fanbase too much.

>>14634917
Are you, by chance, from Germany?

>>14634892
Muh dick! I like when the membrane shows up guys.

>>14634917
>Godzilla vs. Diabeetus

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>>14634892

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So far we have Hideaki Anno and Gen Urobuchi getting to leave their marks on the franchise.

Would anyone like to see Shusuke Kaneko get another shot?

Also, allegedly, Akira Kurosawa expressed interest in directing a Godzilla film back in the 60s. But Toho was afraid of what that might cost and wouldn't allow it. Kurosawa films had larger budgets than Godzilla films and putting the two together would have definitely resulted in even greater expenses.

>>14634971
I want Kinoko Nasu to make a Godzilla film, and I want this Godzilla to have an ahoge

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>>14634892

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>>14634991

>>14634971
I wouldn't be opposed to Kaneko getting another shot. I think his Gamera Trilogy was amazing and wasn't too disappointed in GMK.

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>>14634996

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>>14635002
Also made webms of that CGI breakdown

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>>14635016

>>14634343
>Kamen Rider
>Godzilla
Butcher Super Sentai and Ultraman when?

Then Butcher Gundam that he doesn't leave to someone else after the first three episodes

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>>14635026

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>>14635001
What did you find disappointing about GMK? I felt some of the effects looked rushed (Mothra randomly turns transparent when viewed from inside that one building for example and I recall one shot where the electricity around Godzilla's body could've clearly used more frames) and it would've benefit from more Shinji Higuchi input, but I thought it was good overall; I liked the self-aware and comedic yet-not-outright-ironic atmosphere, the monsters looking cartoonier than usual (which fit the atmosphere) and the action was very well-executed at times. It didn't feel as polished as the Gamera films but it worked well.

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>>14635037
Oh and the music was also cool as fuck.

>>14635037
>>14635048

Not the anon you were responding to, but for whatever reason, GMK felt stifled... the cut corners and rushed schedule only added to that and it didn't feel like the Gamera series at all... I personally felt disappointed when I saw it because I loved the Gamera series and wanted to see how he handled Godzilla. I dunno, maybe it's just me or maybe the way Kadokawa and Toho worked were too different for me to see a comparable amount of enjoyment between the two. Also, for whatever reason, I didn't like Otani's score on GMK at first. It took me quite a while to warm up to it, unlike the Gamera series soundtrack, which I fell in love with immediately.

And I'm not even a diehard Gamera fan. I grew up watching all the Showa Godzilla films and only learned of Gamera by chance when I caught the TV premiere of Guardian of the Universe on Showtime after reading about it in a TV Guide a month ahead of its airing in 1997. This then led me to the Showa Gamera movies, which I like just as well, but I have much more nostalgia and love for the Showa Godzilla movies. Gamera was fun to watch just as an alternative to the Godzilla series. Only other movies that were comparable with Godzilla movies were the few King Kong films they'd air (including Mighty Joe Young and other unrelated Ray Harryhausen films like Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, Five Million Miles to Earth, and The Valley of Gwangi).

GMK would have been so much better with Varan and Baragon.

>>14635114
GMK would've been so much better if it stayed as Kaneko's original idea: Godzilla vs. Powered Jamila from Ultraman: The Ultimate Hero.

>>14635087
Of the Heisei and Millennium films, GMK was one of the few entries to feel ambitious and energetic. It kind of harkens back to the works of Honda and Tsuburaya.

Final Wars attempted something different. However its existence is a reminder that different isn't necessarily good. And somehow FW managed to look cheaper than its immediate predecessors despite having twice the budget.

>>14635135
>And somehow FW managed to look cheaper than its immediate predecessors despite having twice the budget.
I'm sure a lot of it went into creating the suits. There's a lot of monsters in that movie, and a lot of complicated miniatures too.

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>>14635087
I think you may have gone in with the wrong mindset. As soon as I started watching GMK I noticed the performances were much more exaggerated than even the silliest human in 90s Gamera. That suggested that it was going for a much sillier and more over-the-top tone; the cartoonier look of the monster suits, the many instances of dark humor along with subtler things like how Godzilla's suit actor walked around only served to confirm it.

Gamera was about taking an utterly ridiculous series that everyone laughed at & making it as serious as you can make a men-in-suits monster film while GMK was doing something very different.

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>>14634911
Don't tease my dick like that anon, I've been wanting that retarded story to be told for the longest time

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>>14635135
Of the heisei & millenium stuff I've seen I liked GMK & the Kiryu films the most. The 1984 film was alright, Biollante was a bizarre mix of fantastically creative decisions and really poor ones and I didn't even finish Ghidorah (lost interest when they straight up forgot to draw his beams in one scene). Millenium-wise I've only seen the Kiryu films & GMK which as I've said were good. GMK I've already explained why I liked, 2002's action could've used better direction but it worked pretty well overall as a story, 2003 just worked very well on most levels. The human stuff was charming, the monster action was better than 2002, it just came together to form a pretty well done children's film. It was safe but good.

Is there anything else worth watching from those two eras?

>>14635175
>complicated miniatures
>wrecked buildings and rubble
>mountains they recycled from GMK.

>>14635116
Bet you'd like King Mole Rat in Godzilla vs Biollante too, right?

>>14634626
> Vs. megaguirus was literally the original Godzilla.
> Kiryu movie's bones were around the original Godzilla. So we could have a 50m vs 100m

>>14635204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8-mXOuf1_0

>>14635176
Hmm. Never really saw it that way before... I guess you're right. It makes sense to me now. I guess it was just that juxtaposition that bothered me... but there's also some seriousness in the movie that kinda clashes with the humor and cartoonishness... And GMK feels a lot longer than most Godzilla films despite being the same length as any other in the series. But whenever I watch it, it feels like it keeps going on and on forever. Guess I just wasn't in the mood for it since 2000 and Megaguirus was pretty ridiculous and Showa-esque. I probably would've liked GMK better if it had been more grounded and serious since the only experience I had with Kaneko beforehand was the Gamera series.

I think it's difficult to adapt a one-off Godzilla film in the Showa era style when it's long past the Showa era... I mean, the style of the Showa series was an evolution and had some continuity between films. But if you start from point zero again and try to establish a corny Showa theme, it doesn't really work as well. If anything, it's probably better to just leave out any hints at Godzilla's origin or constructing a new alternate history for him within the film. It's one of the reasons I like Godzilla 2000 (or at least, the original non-Sony version), because it has no connection to the other films and comes off more as a standalone feature without any sequel baiting and whatnot. It still could've been handled better and the effects were rushed and questionable (that full CG Godzilla underwater and the terrible compositing on Godzilla in the river when the Millennian UFO scans him), but at least it was a nice one-off adventure that could work as an introductory movie for anyone curious about Godzilla.

>>14635135
They blew so much money on Kyle Cooper and their stupid rockstar lead actor.

>>14635221
...where is that even from?
>>14635225
While some elements were similar (the way a lot of characters took the serious situation in a comically stupid way) I don't think GMK was going for outright Showa-era humor. For one the fights were never outright slapsticky; more anime-esque, exaggerated but in a badass way as opposed to a comical way.

It wasn't entirely comical or entirely serious. The main characters were meant to be genuinely charming and you were supposed to root for them but I don't think you were meant to shed tears for the girl in the hospital or the guy that screams "GOJIRA!!!" and gets flattened by his foot because the set-up was too comedic.

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>>14635221
>cute little Japanese girl in cute little monster costume making cute little rawr sounds

>>14635292
GMK behind the scenes

>>14635204
>Is there anything else worth watching from those two eras?
Godzilla vs Destoroyah. Thematically, it's a direct sequel to the original, the human drama is believable, the special effects are cool (heh), and the monster action is some of the best, imo.

>>14635412
> the human drama is believable

You're setting our favorite critic up for failure. Destoroyah's human drama is sort of underwhelming. In a film where the world might come to a fiery end, the characters are rather nonchalant about things. For the most part, it's your standard late Heisei affair until the third act.

>>14635412
Godzilla vs Destroyah is something of a "meh" to me. It was a legitimate complaint that '98 spent a quarter of the film trying to replicate the Velociraptor Scenes from Jurassic Park. While GvD is nowhere near as bad of a film, it still commits the same sin in it's attempts to replicate sequences from Aliens in the battles between humans and Juvenile Destroyahs.

And while the human drama while not nearly as horribly done as GvSG, it still isn't too inciting in my opinion, either. I agree with >>14635422
on how nonchalant the characters are. There was a legitimately apocalyptic tone in '54. There's only a lackluster attempt to replicate that in GvD.

I did enjoy the final battle, though. Godzilla at 1200 degrees was an amazing sequence to watch.

>>14635116
Was it just me or is Ultraman Powered really fugging spooky?

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>>14631564
Baby Seagal a best

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>>14635435
Idk, but Powered is one of my fave Ultras design-wise. Never really watched the show, but I remember the first time I saw him was in the back of an Ultraman Great comic. Ultra-Act when?

>>14632447
>never ever in the west
RIP Irem 2

>>14635001
>>14635204

Ooh hey Gamercuck! Was waiting for you to show up! What's the topic of your blog today, how Showa Rider are all boring moralfags or how Ebert raped you up the ass?

>>14635472
You managed to connect the writing style in that long post to my comments about Ebert (which were actually "he's generally great but is wrong about this one genre") but I'd never unironically say "moralfag" and the first post is not mine.

You were almost there.

>>146335528
So it's the second subject tonight then?

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What's the general opinion on the '56 Rodan here? I thought it was pretty great. Even with all the visible wires on the main monster it has some of Tsuburaya's best miniature destruction scenes and the story works well. The dead serious, post Godzilla '54 atmosphere is interesting to go back to after watching a bunch of the more self-aware and wacky 60s movies and it had good pacing and build-up. Introducing one monster type and setting them up as a significant threat only to have your main monster appear as a baby and eat them as if they're insignificant grubs was a great choice.

>>14635611
Sucks because it's old and I could better spend my time masturbating to Gamera Trilogy

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>>14635611
It indisputably has the best design for the titular character. Basing this entirely off of a distant memory, but I'd say it's a pretty solid flick.

>>14634971

Kurosawa's Godzilla idea was Godzilla's Revenge, which is why it's funny everyone hates it.. He let Honda role with it. Dodeskaden uses a similar plot.

>>14635611
I haven't seen it for quite some time but I have the warmest memory of the film, itself. It may have tried to do too much, though, in having what started out as something akin to a mystery film morphing into a more generic Kaiju film. However, as I said before, I haven't seen the film for some time so it may have been executed incredibly well.

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>>14635617
>oh no this guy doesn't fit the strawman I made for him, better shitpost
I thought Rodan and 90s Gamera were good for very similar reasons; age doesn't even play a huge part because the best effects of 90s Gamera were the old-school ones. Shinji Higuchi has a bizarrely positive opinion of the 3DCG (the Gyaos in Iris were well animated though, I'll give him that)
>>14635632
I see what you mean but I think the ending and the level of detail and the cinematograhpy of the destruction scenes made it go above being a "generic kaiju film" in the final stretch.

>>14635644
>"generic kaiju film"

I articulated myself poorly there. It's "generic" only in the reference to the works Honda was putting out in the same time at the same time, most if not all of which featuring amazing cinematography and attention to detail.

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>>14635644
You fit the strawman you made of yourself.

By the way, still waiting for your reasons why Heisei Gamera is better than Showa Rider. Do you have any reasons beyond le boring moralfag meme you picked up from /v/

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>>14635672
I haven't seen enough to be certain of this, but I think Tsuburaya played a significant part in that. Watching Destroy All Monsters after a bunch of Honda-Tsuburaya films made the monster/destruction scenes look quite flat even though Honda was directing.

>>14635698
I don't necessarily disagree with you on that, either. Tsuburaya played a big part in many of the films I referring to, such as War of the Gargantuas, Mothra '61, etc.

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>>14635690
I just don't find the action scenes in old Kamen Rider shows all that entertaining.

>>14635698
Tsuburaya started his career as a DP, didn't he? Eiji Tsuburaya: Master of Monsters mentions his generous use of smoke machines to add depth to all of his shots.

>>14635611

Rodan has some really great effects for what they had at hand and for the time. It's a seriously underrated movie.

>>14635467
The designs in Ultraman Powered are better than the show. The American production team had to be coerced to not use cardboard buildings for sets but they were also very conscious of the frailty of the detailed suits, so the fights are extremely lackluster and particularly cheap-looking (like, on par with Power Rangers -- but without any Sentai footage... just the American footage). Ultraman: Towards the Future is the superior Western Ultraman show by design, plot, and special effects. It's everything Ultraman Powered's show should've been.

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>>14635725
I actually don't think that one bluray that removed the strings made a bad decision because aside from that one rushed element popping up sometimes the Rodan scenes are enjoyable genuinely and not as "haha things sure were silly in the 50s :)" ironic camp. You can tell they were even trying their best to erase them but just didn't have the time, sometimes they're only BARELY visible.

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>>14635739
>>14635725
I wouldn't even say they're "good for their time" since none of the buildings felt as cheap as, say, the building that '84 Godzilla falls into.

>>14635739

You sure are an insecure pissbaby to constantly lose your shit over the premise of ironic enjoyment but shit on everything that isn't about a giant turtle being taken deathly serious.

>>14635611
I love it and the special effects surpass 1954 Godzilla by miles despite only being 2 years later. My favorite shot is when Rodan hatches and Kenji Sahara watches on in horror as Rodan's wing flaps create gusts all around as the camera zooms in on Sahara's face looking toward the hatching Rodan just off-screen. I think that might be my favorite cinematographic shot in a kaiju film aside from seeing Godzilla's silhouette amongst a burning Tokyo in Godzilla 1954 and the silhouette of Gyaos perched on the remains of Tokyo Tower in Gamera: GOTU.

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>>14635749
>"cuck" AND "pissbaby" in the same thread
I thought your posts couldn't get any worse and yet here we have it

>>14635753
Not an argument.

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>>14635757
Nor is your flaccid chode of a sentence a rebuttal to his calling you out.

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>>14635711
Put on a trip already so I can block you

Man and Rodan used to be one of my favorites too

>>14635749

Good god, let it go. Nobody cares about this guy's preferences except you. You're shitting up the thread.

>>14635752
>Godzilla's silhouette amongst a burning Tokyo in Godzilla 1954 and the silhouette of Gyaos perched on the remains of Tokyo Tower in Gamera: GOTU.
Both of those were also significant highlights to me concidentally enough. I felt that the Gyaos scene showed Higuchi's anime staff history pretty interestingly.

>>14635752
>I love it and the special effects surpass 1954 Godzilla by miles despite only being 2 years later.
I mean, Godzilla was the first suitimation movie. They were making it up as they went along. By the time Rodan was made they had some experience and kind of knew what they were doing.

>>14635760
>""""His""""
>Calling out

All he did is his usual whining about everybody not accepting his word as absolute objective fact.

>>14635738
>The designs in Ultraman Powered are better than the show
>Higuchi Shinji
>Maeda Mahiro
>Miike Toshio
And they work for Shin-Godzilla too.

>>14635698

But Tsuburaya did the effects on DAM

>>14635787
Expecting him to fact check during his platitudes is asking far too much. Just keep reporting and he'll get banned just like he did before.

A question for 4chan.X users: does anyone know how to filter individual IPs?

>>14635787
I forget where, though I heard he wasn't too involved with DAM. And that isn't surprising, he had his own company and he was probably sick at the time.

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>>14635768
'54 had some awkward silly stuff here and there in a way that Rodan managed to avoid (strings aside) but a lot of it looked great mainly thanks to the way it was shot. I think Tsuburaya understood the basics of what makes this stuff work from the get-go.

>>14635433
itsmostly garbage

the best parts are goji at night in hong kong, the meltdown at the end and the credits

>>14634563
>>>/ann/

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>>14635803
>>14635787
According to Wikipedia he was only "effects supervisor"; I normally don't believe Wikipedia instantly, but the style felt very different from all the films I've seen that the site said he had a more hands-on approach with so I assumed it was true.
>>14635800
>Just keep reporting and he'll get banned just like he did before.
The only reason I may have been banned from /m/ in the past was posting porn and I've not done that for half a decade. Who do you think I am? Do you have an actual, no-bullshit mental illness?

>>14635838
We know who you are Billy. You don't even bother. Not to mention how somebody with severe autism shouldn't be so inconsiderate about mental illness.

>>14635738
I loved Towards the Future, but Powered looks cooler than Great imo.

>>14635433
>>14635822
>>14635412
>>14635422
>>14635433
I'll watch it and just speed up the human scenes if they're bad.

>>14635908
They're not bad, but as other people have pointed out, the characters don't really react properly to the grave situation. Besides, almost all of the human scenes are in the first 30 minutes. The rest of the movie is more about the monsters, enough to where i'd say the character drama is about them and not the humans.

>>14635908
Man, I hate it that people do that. All or nothing.

That said, Destroyah is woefully mediocre.

>>14635925
I just skimmed through it and even though the baby Destroyah animatronics can look pretty silly and cheap, the giant monster scenes look really good.

>>14635925
The thing that stuck out for me was when they did the Aliens thing for five minutes

That was weird

Is it legit bad that I just find all Showa toku in general terrible? When did this become controversal? Does anyone seriously think old Rider is better than Kabuto or Gaim or Gamera better than Revenge of Iris or Guardian?

>>14635971
You can find it bad, that's fine

Don't give me a hard time for loving some of it

>>14635971
Tastes and opinions are different Anon, you're good.

I prefer Heisei over most Showa, but I can understand the charm the Showa era had.

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The Hong Kong scene is pretty good. The way Godzilla's nuclear meltdown look matches the Hong Kong lights is clever in a way that I've come to not really associate with the heisei films.

>>14635971
>>14635973
>>14635975
You can stop talking to yourself anytime now billy.

>>14635978
Yeah, all the Godzilla parts of GvD is really fantastic but the human stuff at the beginning just didn't do it at all for me.

>>14635981
>Autistic Anon continuously posting about a irrelevant namefag like a fucking boogeyman.
>Adds nothing of value and only shitposting.

Gee, I wonder who's Billy here?

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>>14635981

Seriously, this.

Both of you shut the fuck up.

We just want to talk about people in silly rubber suits doing silly things.

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What the fuck was up with this scene? How'd he get buried under there?

>>14636014
Got washed into the beach along with the sand debris during the massive storm.

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>>14635971
>>14635975
Old Gamera is bad even for its time though.

I just personally don't understand why age would matter THAT much as far as tokusatsu goes given that the 3DCG tends to not be very good and the practical or hand-drawn effects tend to be the best-looking parts. The more elaborate animatronics and other technological improvements featured in say GMK do add to it, but the core of it is about cinematography and design sense moreso than technology.

Shinji Higuchi kept going on about the 3DCG in Gamera and whether it was a problem or not if it looked "cooler" than the suit scenes, but aside from the gyaos scenes and some shots of Iris the 3DCG just looked like an okay video game cutscene from that time. It's true that the CG Gyaos look more natural but aside from that the traditional stuff beats it.

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>>14636016
Huh, so even Goji is vulnerable to nature.

>>14636018
Yeah, I've even mentioned before how Showa Gamera only has two decent Monster films of the Showa era, but you can still enjoy them.

>>14636023
He might've also been recovering from his fight with Kong in the previous entry, leading to a state of pseudo-hibernation.

>>14636018
>I just personally don't understand why age would matter THAT much as far as tokusatsu goes

Ask yourself that question since you're the one who complains most about it.
STILL waiting for legit reasons why Showa Rider is so terrible by the way.

>>14635975
You basically mean this as condescending and belittling as possible and you're not even trying to disguise it.

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>>14636018
So you think the Honda/Tsuburaya combination had the best cinematography in the franchise?

And, this is for any anon, will Hideaki Anno/Shinji Higuchi come to be seen as the modern equivalent of the kaiju fathers? Or does the Shusuke Kaneko/Shinji Higuchi team up still hold its ground?

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>>14636032

That makes too much sense. I like it.

>>14636034

Are you still that hung up on this guy's opinion? Jesus.

>>14635467
>>14635738
>baltan
>dada
>mole people
>jamila
>dat tense ost which made everything unbearably spooky
I guess it was just me.

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>>14636034
From my experience, the action scenes lack the appeal found in the scale, destruction and fun use of practical effects found in more kaiju-centered stuff of that era like Godzilla & Ultraman while also not having the fantastic stunts and choreography of a great martial arts movie. I'd much rather read Ishinomori's Kamen Rider manga given the art is cool.

>>14636044
Let the rest of us watch the movie first before asking heavy questions.

>>14636034
Considering you waddle into every thread to post your blog...

>>14636044
Stop pretending you've watched anything those two worked on before shitting your diapers and screeching about not enough CG and plastic gimmick toys to sell.

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>>14636063
I recall trying out the first episode of Black and the Rider was swinging around "kicking" his enemies but blatantly not even touching them, so they just drew a little flash over the footage to try and fake an impact. I won't mind the occasional visible string in the old Toho films but stuff that overtly silly and cheap only works for unintentional comedy.

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>>14636075
Meanwhile the manga looks great because Ishinomori was very good at making comics.

>>14636065
Nice try buddy but stop misdirecting your own crimes on others who want you to fuck off.

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>>14636076

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>>14636072

>>14636063
Yet you're the one who also called Ultraman bad. It's also clear you never watched any Showa because the apeshit choreography and filmingg technoques is what even detractors begrudingly admit to enjoying. Also pretty funny the guy who whines every single day about ironic enjoyment being the greatest crime on earth says that's all Showa is good for. Ebert! Ebert! Ebert!

>>14636076
You're aware that manga is full of that icky icky moralfaggotry you hate so much right?
No such thing as a hero and all that

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>>14636044
>So you think the Honda/Tsuburaya combination had the best cinematography in the franchise?
I've not watched enough and not been analytical enough in what I have watched to seriously compare the amount of good shots, but they were pretty up there and really good at framing stuff to give it a sense of scale. Their scenes obviously looked like guys in suits stomping around miniatures but they didn't really FEEL like it.

>>14636108
They did though. Besides Vs Mothra Godzilla behaves like a man in a suit for the entire era. No attempt is made for him to act or behave like a giant creature.

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>>14636091
>>14636106
Drop the boogeyman "everyone is some e-celeb only I care about" shitposting (seriously I don't even have any idea who "Billy" is) and recommend me a showa Rider show with good action choreography. I watched the first episode of maybe 3 shows around half a decade ago and what stuck out to me the most was the scene I mentioned here >>14636075

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>>14636114
>Besides Vs Mothra
I dunno why you consider that to be the exception.

I'm not talking about mannerisms as there's no real approved way for a giant radiation-mutated lizard to act anyway. I'm talking about things like camera angles, use of contrast, etc.

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>>14636127

people still responding to Billy

he's just salty showa Riders were real heroes and not wimpy male models with deep struggles and cgi out the ass

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So I took all the atomic breath night scenes stuff and I think ive put them together chronologically

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>>14636139
And to think, a few missiles hitting the cracks on his back and hurting him caused this tantrum.

>>14636117
Billy this is becoming unseemly. I know you grew up without a father and it skewed your view of male figures but don't take it out on beloved characters like Rider 1&2 just because of your own misplaced principles.

>>14636150
What, I thought he was samefagging?

>>14636129
I've never seen '54. The fire is great, but why does goji look really goofy here?

>>14636139
can you add the chorus of Bonnie Tyler's "I need a hero" over that?

>>14636148
What's the source of this cap?

>>14635800
Didn't this guy derail one of these threads ranting about identity politics too?

>>14636154
He looks unintentionally goofy in a few shots but I don't feel that's one of them.

>>14636153
He usually does but only to repost the same things over and over and prove how well read and informed he is compared to us.

>>14636159
Yes and he used Astro Boy as an example of why all whites should die or something.

>>14636156
Godzilla PS4, anon

>>14636156
The 2015 vidya.

>>14636170
>Racist against whites
>Hates anything older than himself
>Hates masculinity and jollity
>Daddy issues out the ass
>DAAAAAARKKKKNEEEEEEESSSS impresses him
So when does billy come out as trans? He's already embodying the other tumblr cliches.

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>>14636170
>>14636159
I didn't say all whites should die, I just used Atom as an example of themes that /pol/ types would consider "SJW bullshit" being executed well and in a way that wasn't pandery.

I still have no idea who this "Billy" person you retards are whining about is. I'm not even close to being a regular in toku threads, I'm just here because I've not found a better place to discuss Japanese monster movies.

>>14636156
Pretty sure that's from the recent game.

>>14636168
He seems like a bobblehead from that still shot. Granted, I don't remember how it looks in motion.

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>>14636201
Wait do you guys think I'm Clawshrimpy? Is Billy his real name?

WHO IS THIS PERSON

>>14634496
>All that /co/ trash

Just say they did Sidonia and BLAME! you retard.

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Why'd we get fucked over?

>>14636139
>The fire is clipping through his mouth
Hooo...

>>14636224
>Sidonia
>BLAME!

>Liking 15fps animation

Fuck off.

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>>14636228
I dunno if that's what's really happening here

>>14636231
>I don't know how anime works

You do realize Gojira is anime right? They're going to make it look like anime just like every 3D anime they've done, which means they cut frames.

Your /co/ trash has 0 relevance here.

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>>14636240
The fire is behaving in an unrealistic way but I don't think it's just clipping through the side of his mouth

>It's Godzilla in space

So there's going to be King Ghidorah right?

>>14636207
You don't care about discussion Billy

You're just here to prove yourself smarter and more objectively correct than the rest of humanity, and muh Gaymera

OMG it IS clipping through the side of his mouth! MOVIE HAS BEEN RUINED FOR ME!!! I CANNOT UNSEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

>>14636228
>>14636240
>>14636249
>>14636286

For fuck's sake guys. Now I see it. Fucking /m/

>>14636226
No, I see why they hid it.